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  • Опубликовано: 15 авг 2022
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  • @ys.v1
    @ys.v1 2 года назад +15

    From my own experience, Irish people have always been amazing to black people. They were also effective second class citizens. Shops in the 80s would have signs like “no blacks, no dogs, no Irish”. So there’s a bit of relatability in experience

    • @gerryadams9868
      @gerryadams9868 Год назад +1

      Yes sir we don’t try to colonise places unlike the brits ☘️

    • @dylanmurphy9389
      @dylanmurphy9389 Год назад +2

      @@gerryadams9868Ireland was a part of the British empire and there were many Irish people that participating in British imperialism. Just because the working class didn’t doesn’t make you innocent, majority of working class English people didn’t either.

    • @RedOakCrow
      @RedOakCrow Год назад

      @@dylanmurphy9389 So do transgressions committed by people that are long dead justify some sort of 'reparations' or accommodation in the present?

    • @Eurynomos326
      @Eurynomos326 9 месяцев назад

      Yeah I think those signs go right back to the first waves of Irish reaching New York, at least. Maybe even Irish immigrants to Britain, they weren't liked much there either.
      I remember hearing stories of slave rebellions in the US where black and white people would fight alongside each other. The masters learned to stop that by giving blacks worse punishments than whites, which pretty quickly lead to them fighting each other instead of the masters.
      And yeah. It's mostly class. There were Kenyans and Indians who got turned against their own by the brits as well. No ones perfect, but not everyone is british.

    • @TheNelster72
      @TheNelster72 7 месяцев назад

      Shops in the 80s said absolutely nothing of the kind. An invention.

  • @theinfernomaster8826
    @theinfernomaster8826 6 дней назад +1

    Id just like to applaud @jurnalist for taking the time to watch this...as a belfast taxi driver the amount of american tourists that come here and dont know is astounding.

    • @Jurnalist_
      @Jurnalist_  6 дней назад

      Thank you for this. I’ve now actually been to Belfast Derry and Muff. Was an emotional experience I can’t lie.

  • @ianmclean6399
    @ianmclean6399 Год назад +4

    I grew up with loyalists, both sides came to scotland for holidays and old firm games.
    A lot of people i grew up with used to go there just for the riots and marches then back to scotland for safety.
    Belfast in the 90s was a mad place, the division was crazy.

    • @johnkennedy972
      @johnkennedy972 Год назад

      A seen Belfast in 1990 onwards 4 to 7 times a year a regular visitor to highlight the Irish struggle in 4 republican flute bands the sons of Ireland at 14 years old my 1st band was in it for the best part of four years then it was Tom Williams rfband two years then joe Cahill rfband one year and my last in Scotland was the Kevin Barry rfband two years just after my cancer a always went back to the bands when people died breakups etc etc the bands was always stored in to my pyce that’s were I felt at my most comfortable and heartwarming parades like oglach bobby sands says everyone republican or otherwise has there part to play no part is to big or to small everyone can do something a seen myself going back in forth to the bands as me playing my role in highlighting the republican movement struggle as I was a staunch Republican lad from the cradle to the grave my father al always be grateful for bringing me up on the right side of the fence which was a fair assessment from myself from an early age a remember the 2nd world war in school was Britain and America were battling the Germans Italy japan etc to get the Europe countries back to there people as some governments remained in Britain till there countries were liberated so a believed from an early age that every country’s should be left to the people whose families etc were reared and born in its a patriotic duty to fight for freedom of your country so at a young age I was aware Britain had no right in Ireland and never had any right to enslave another country can never make u totally free🇮🇪32

  • @weronikachylinska85
    @weronikachylinska85 Год назад +1

    Appreciate this reaction 🇮🇪🇵🇱

  • @jackdaniels4346
    @jackdaniels4346 2 года назад +3

    Loving the docs ur doing

  • @TheRevWillNotBeTelevised
    @TheRevWillNotBeTelevised 2 года назад +3

    Tony Blair was a conservative politician (though nominally 'Labour') who invaded Iraq along with the Americans despite the 2nd largest protest in UK history against it, the biggest was against 'Brexit' and had roughly 2 million attendees.

    • @ys.v1
      @ys.v1 2 года назад +2

      Keir Starmer is doing his best to continue Blair’s legacy of blue labour

    • @Jurnalist_
      @Jurnalist_  2 года назад +2

      Yea I remember that actually y’all were not having it yet they sold it to us like the British were just as mad as we were. 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @liamwilson6205
      @liamwilson6205 2 года назад

      How was he conservative? Talking shit mate

  • @solo7627
    @solo7627 2 года назад +2

    love from ireland🙏

    • @Jurnalist_
      @Jurnalist_  2 года назад

      👊🏾 from America 🫡

  • @imnotyourfriendbuddy1883
    @imnotyourfriendbuddy1883 Год назад +1

    39:44
    That is Michael Stone. He threw grenades at a funeral. That's why he's treated like he's the man.

  • @ys.v1
    @ys.v1 2 года назад +2

    Tbf, tourists visit ground zero in New York, and the Berlin Wall

    • @Jurnalist_
      @Jurnalist_  2 года назад +1

      True but we commoditize our pain in America very rapidly and it’s not an area where it can Cause a flair up like I think could happen at for the peace walls. The more I watched though I saw that it’s just part of the fabric of the area

  • @brendanmaguire4134
    @brendanmaguire4134 Год назад

    Voices From The Grave.. is a great documentary

  • @user-rs1hz3zj4o
    @user-rs1hz3zj4o Год назад

    As part irish and english I learned from this video there was madness for 20 odd years. There's a few documentarys on how irsh Africans and Jamaicans were all in the same boats and how irish ppl may have learned Jamaicans english because there accent is similar they pronounce some words the same

  • @Eurynomos326
    @Eurynomos326 9 месяцев назад +1

    'We can just bootstrap it'
    You hit the nail on the head, you can't just do that.
    But the idea that you can is a USA thing, I think. I've never heard that saying or sentiment outside the context of the US class struggle.
    That said, I am curious now how Irish travellers feel about Irish nationalism.
    Cause like, when you live semi-nomadic you kinda can just eff off.

    • @Eurynomos326
      @Eurynomos326 9 месяцев назад

      For the st patricks day bit;
      'or it'd be people who wear green and dont wear green thatd be the beef on st patricks day'
      I mean yeah that's literally it haha green vs orange.

    • @saoirseclarnimhuiris7910
      @saoirseclarnimhuiris7910 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Eurynomos326 😂 damáinsre faoi lathair, aointaithe go deo a chara! Éire Abú 🇮🇪🇮🇪💚💚💚💚🇮🇪

  • @123brizy
    @123brizy 2 года назад +1

    Leprechauns are a mythological figure in Irish folklore and stories. Kind of trickster/fairy figures that died out in the last generation, my grandfather would speak of leprechauns but my father and mother would not and my generation would certainly not

    • @dylanmurphy9389
      @dylanmurphy9389 Год назад

      Did your grandfather actually believe in them?

  • @yermanoffthetelly
    @yermanoffthetelly Год назад

    51:43 A Gaeilgeoir is a speaker of the Irish language (Gaeilge) which the people are learning in the video at 46:24

  • @ys.v1
    @ys.v1 2 года назад +1

    7:35 that question has to be facetious 😂 there’s communities of black people everywhere, even the whitest countries. But for Ireland specifically they tend to have easier immigration processes, relatively large nigerian community in there as well. One of the love island finalists this year was a black Irish man, there’s also the rapper rejjie snow who’s black Irish

    • @hanifleylabi8071
      @hanifleylabi8071 Год назад

      Irish immigration processes don't apply to northern Ireland.

  • @gordonseales3950
    @gordonseales3950 Год назад +1

    Our language it's going through parliament this year not many people speak it

    • @Jurnalist_
      @Jurnalist_  Год назад

      What do you mean going through parliament?

  • @choy2k10
    @choy2k10 10 месяцев назад

    Another thing mate is that you being a black man like us were treated like a 2nd class citizen but as a black man you would be welcome in a Catholic area and to settle here but if you moved into a protestant area they would intimidate your out of there 😢😢

  • @ys.v1
    @ys.v1 2 года назад

    Leprechauns come from folk tales, mythical. You’d put them in the same category as fairies and stuff

  • @lauryn2868
    @lauryn2868 Год назад

    I would say the United Kingdom as a whole has little understanding of the concept of being in proximity and it taking effect. The reason Northern Irish ppl reconcile that it is to do with where we where born is because the issue uniquely applies not to who we r as people but what our land is called and what it is apart of, and as such identity takes route meaning you pick a side. Thus uniquely it’s because we were born on this soil with people who had such differences that such a conflict arose and massacred our ppl, just to be clear when I say our people I mean all of us that live in Northern Ireland without difference. All of us suffered, many of us our childhood stolen or loved ones taken.

  • @ys.v1
    @ys.v1 2 года назад +1

    Blair is seen as less bad than thatcher but he’s got plenty of flaws

  • @ys.v1
    @ys.v1 2 года назад

    The bootstrap mentality defo exists. It’s part of British culture, they call it a “stiff upper lip” it’s about suffering and just going through it without making a big deal of things. like your problems shouldn’t ever become other peoples problems, “keep calm and carry on” is another common phrase. I think this particular issue is really unique in how it came about so it’s hard to apply the bootstrap mentality

    • @ys.v1
      @ys.v1 2 года назад

      What people tend to do is like “look at this one expectational example from someone coming from similar circumstances, why can’t you do it?” Without acknowledging the exceptionality of managing to get out of said circumstances

    • @MrJoeshipley
      @MrJoeshipley 2 года назад +1

      The keep calm and carry was ww2 messaging to embody the "blitz spirit"

    • @dylanmurphy9389
      @dylanmurphy9389 Год назад

      It’s a good thing

  • @kathleenrawner573
    @kathleenrawner573 Год назад

    Ultimately, they had to bootstrap it in Northern Ireland. You have to improve your own life as best you can regardless of where you live.

    • @Jurnalist_
      @Jurnalist_  Год назад

      Bootstrapping is capitalist buzzword that is actually a logical fallacy. But I get your sentiment.

  • @nosiphokala4972
    @nosiphokala4972 2 года назад

    React to Ross Kemp on gangs on the Cape Town South Africa

  • @ys.v1
    @ys.v1 2 года назад +1

    Shooting suspects before conviction sounds crazy to me. I understand your perspective but it’s so foreign

    • @Jurnalist_
      @Jurnalist_  2 года назад

      It’s crazy to me too. I just understand the police here are not trying to wrestle with a suspect they will shoot him then handcuff them then watch them bleed out it’s wild.

  • @JMBPro
    @JMBPro Год назад +1

    The documentary seemed a bit biased

    • @Jurnalist_
      @Jurnalist_  Год назад

      Super biased. Not a good job. I just wanted the facts with no skew.

    • @JMBPro
      @JMBPro Год назад +1

      @@Jurnalist_ it shows the pain certain people went through due to the conflict but like most documentaries about Northern Ireland it tends to support the Irish side more than the British side. Showing the st. Patrick's day parade, people learning Gaelic, and Irish dancing but shows no positive representation of the protestant background.
      I understand that you're wanting to learn about the culture and way of life about Northern Ireland which is great, unfortunately not many documentaries exist from what I've seen that show's unionist culture positively which is frustrating.
      Just classic propaganda really

    • @Jurnalist_
      @Jurnalist_  Год назад +1

      @@JMBPro if you do know any please do share I would like to showcase both sides and make sure I at least see what each side has to say so I can make my own fully formed opinion.

  • @jim2win2
    @jim2win2 2 года назад +2

    I know I don’t like tony Blair I can’t speak for everyone though.

    • @Jurnalist_
      @Jurnalist_  2 года назад

      Just the war thing or other reasons?