That was a wonderful example of biased media: after the statement "People think your not tough enough," it's edited to look like the crowd is laughing as Ed Miliband begins to respond, setting up the viewer to laugh at his portrayal of himself as a strong leader, whether I think he is or not is a decision I would like to come to on my own without being herded like some mindless sheep by Channel 4 editorialising. That bit at the end where he asks are you all right? Clearly meant to imply to the audience that he is out of his depth and is struggling to stay in control, i.e. not mentally tough, again I'll make my decision as to his mental fortitude based upon the whole interview and I won't let Paxman's admittedly very well timed attempt to undermine Ed Miliband sway my judgement. Instead it makes me admire Ed Miliband's mental strength even more considering the lengths journalists and interviewers are going to paint a picture that clearly isn't true.
No in fairness he/she is right, I checked the full interview when the comment was made and it does seem that there was some laughing, it's cut differently than here and looks more natural, so she/he is right on that; however in the longer version there are far more people applauding afterward than laughing before but this didn't make the cut, which ironically enough stands to the wider point I was making.
Not that I particularly like either of them, but why do people waste so much bloody time making Ed Miliband explain about his relationship with his brother? He won the labour leadership, end of story. Can we please just let them talk about politics that actually matter?
Miliband comes across in the Paxman interview like an awkward pubescent school-boy being grilled by the headmaster over his lack of homework. It's almost painful to watch. Though I'm no fan of Cameron either, Etonian fool with the appearance of an estante agent; although that would require him to have had a real job.
I've never seen bias so overt, apart from the Daily Mail. Next the news anchors will start shouting their opinion and spouting erroneous shit, like Fox News.
***** Agreed, I think that one was well rehearsed and he looked to slip it in almost casually to get a sympathy chuckle but it ended up coming off as choreographed and too planned. I reckon Ed would just do a lot better if he relaxed into it and simply said what people on the ground are saying, i.e project the majority of voices. Most people in the UK are sick of rich wealthy toffs taking the piss.
Ukip is getting my vote. I'm sick off the lies and false promises of both the Cons and Labour come election time. I can't be alone in thinking it's time for a change. I also ask myself, why are so many trying to smear Ukip...a party that has not yet had a chance to prove itself?
You seem like a reasonable and educated person so implore you, PLEASE look into UKIP a bit further before you give them your vote. Disenfranchisement with the establishment parties is no reason to run into the open arms of a party of Ultra-Thatcherists comprised almost entirely of former Tory MPs, with the laziest voting record in European parliament. Have you considered the Green party? I'm not evangelising them or anything but they have a similarly Eurosceptic stance as well as a generally more progressive and sane manifesto (do UKIP even have a manifesto yet?). Of course your vote is your own and if you've already made an informed choice to vote UKIP then all the best to you. :)
UKIP is constantly saying the media is trying to smear it, as if there is a conspiracy to support the other three. I wouldn't trust any party who's support is based on the feeling that the UK has fallen and needs to be 'recovered' as there really isn't much life left in Westminster anymore.
I don't think it's entirely accurate to compare the Greens to UKIP but I get where you're coming from. I assume you're referring to Universal Basic Income? I, personally, think it's a great idea that could potentially eradicate poverty though it'd take some enormous economic sleight of hand to make it work. If George Osborne can "magic up" money through quantative easing then surely a government that has the interests of the people in mind could make it work? I'm not entirely sure of the Greens myself yet but on paper their policies are a lot more appealing than "Austerity", "More Austerity", "Austerity-Lite" and "Thatcherism on sterioids".
Will Paxman be doing one with Nigel?? If he was there he would have blown these two muppets out of the water. I've got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
Arcturus Dunhelm But it's because of the fat cats and bankers, that we're in a dumping ground! We've been in austerity for the past 7 years, and the debt has merely flown through the roof, because those with the money, aren't paying into the system. I understand people's feeling to vote for UKIP, but it's a wolf in sheep's clothing. I honestly don't know who to vote for, because they really are all as bad as each other, and they are all in debt to they're investors. They give the working public just enough to keep going, whilst they take the cream off the top. Wish you the best of luck whoever you decide to vote for.
James Hodgkins That is patently incorrect. A small percentage of taxpayers actually cover a significant proportion of the tax receipts. Turning the screws on them will literally make them leave, with the resulting gaping hole in the budget. They are in Britain because conditions there are acceptable, not because of the excellent road networks and wonderful weather. These people are mobile, I know because I decided to leave the moment they started messing about with the non-dom setup. The City, while on occasion playing fast and loose with the rules generates a huge amount of wealth for Britain and does not deserve singling out as some pound of flesh to be hounded by fervent socialists with a spotty economic record who want more of everything and fail to understand that it doesn't all add up. There used to be a saying that "the facts of life are Conservative" - it reflects that if you apply logic to the election and strip out ideology, Conservative policies tend to be more beneficial to the economy, which is at the core of all other policy.
fettlemaster Thanks for your reply, and please don't get me wrong, I don't claim to be an expert. But from my experiences the banking industry has only really benefited London. I live in Birmingham, and I can tell you none of the wealth is finding it's way up here, it stays very much down south. Also, I understand what you're saying, but bending over backwards for the financial sector whilst it robs the UK blind, just because every now and then it throws us a few bones is a recipe for disaster. If the sector benefited us that much, we wouldn't be more than £1 Trillion worth of debt. I know we can't just pull the plug, but putting a plaster over a severed artery and pretending it's all ok, isn't an answer either...
Wow, I´d love to see this kind of debate here in Spain instead of asking the prime minister of Spain silly questions and kissing his ass. Good for England. If a Spanish reporter ask those same questions the man would be out of work in no time.
I think that this clip has deliberately used parts to look bad on Ed Milliband and it looks like Paxman was being patronising to him, and yet really Cameron's comments are staged and empty, its not enough after 5 years having been PM in terms of evidence, Cameron has failed and yet we are in a position where he'll probably be the next PM - depressing.
Daniel May Anyone considering voting Tory should remember Thatcher. And Gove. And Gideon. And IDS. And Norman Tebbit... and so on ad infinitum. The Tories are all monsters, and Thatcher was Darth Vader in drag.
Abradacamera Thatcher maybe. Don't get how 1/3 of the UK can vote for a party which messed up the economy as badly as WWII. Conservatives are doing a fine job and now we are having elections where people are giving Labour the chance to mess it all up again. Sad...
The economy ditching would have happened to any government who happened to be to be governing at the time. Enjoy the last three weeks of the Tories, because it's all going to change on May 8th. And in case you hadn't noticed, it's not the Conservatives governing alone. They're in coalition, and an awful lot of the positive stuff this government has achieved has been because of the influence of the Liberal Democrats. And an awful lot of the moronic negative, spiteful snotty-boy stuff has come from the Tories. Good riddance to them when they're toast. Only 33% of the voters vote for them, and the only reason half of them vote Tory is because they're afraid of the Labour party. This country is in desperate need of electoral reform, so that people can vote for what they want, which in general, is moderation. An option they never get offered.
Abradacamera Saying that any party would have done badly at the time is just pathetic. I don't want my taxes paying for lazy ass people to stay on benefits. A conservative government people get what they earn. I don't want our country to be a charity for immigrants, obese and lazy people. I would vote UKIP but unfortunately not enough people realise it.
Vote UKIP then. See if you can get some other geniuses to switch from the Tories and join you. What would the Tories have done different if the world had been in financial melt-down, do you think? Regulated the banking sector more rigorously to make sure it never happened? Dream on.
No one chooses to go into a zero hours contract!! Why the hell would anyone CHOOSE to contract themselves to unguaranteed work?.. Shows how removed from society Cameron is.. Muppet.
I'm a student in Oxford who has a zero hours contract with a waitering agency in London and I'm grateful for it. I'm not guarenteed work but when I do go home and apply for a shift I will usually get one, a zero hours contract means flexibility and Cameron changing the policy so that you can have multible 0hr contracts only assists in this.
I don't dislike Milliband, and I think he put on an impressive performance here but he is not tough enough. He wasn't tough enough to oppose Iain Duncan Smith's vile and unlawful Workfare scheme. He wasn't tough enough to oppose the fear mongering surrounding the Scottish referendum. He isn't tough enough to snub tax-evading donors or drag the neoliberal contingent that has usurped the Labout party back to the left screaming and kicking, and he isn't tough enough to oppose the ideological austerity that has retarded the economy for the past 5 years. Good on Paxo for calling the PM on his bare faced lie about reducing the debt, though.
i think be more foodbanks more selling of assets and a health service starting resemble usa were only wealthy can afford treatments? these guys havnt said anything ,that would make me want to vote either. paxman did fair job at telling cameron the truths,but plenty more coulda be said
That was a wonderful example of biased media: after the statement "People think your not tough enough," it's edited to look like the crowd is laughing as Ed Miliband begins to respond, setting up the viewer to laugh at his portrayal of himself as a strong leader, whether I think he is or not is a decision I would like to come to on my own without being herded like some mindless sheep by Channel 4 editorialising. That bit at the end where he asks are you all right? Clearly meant to imply to the audience that he is out of his depth and is struggling to stay in control, i.e. not mentally tough, again I'll make my decision as to his mental fortitude based upon the whole interview and I won't let Paxman's admittedly very well timed attempt to undermine Ed Miliband sway my judgement. Instead it makes me admire Ed Miliband's mental strength even more considering the lengths journalists and interviewers are going to paint a picture that clearly isn't true.
They actually deleted the laughing. The audience did laugh at him.
the1musiclad Just curious, how do you know the audience's laughing was edited out? Were you there?
No in fairness he/she is right, I checked the full interview when the comment was made and it does seem that there was some laughing, it's cut differently than here and looks more natural, so she/he is right on that; however in the longer version there are far more people applauding afterward than laughing before but this didn't make the cut, which ironically enough stands to the wider point I was making.
Not that I particularly like either of them, but why do people waste so much bloody time making Ed Miliband explain about his relationship with his brother? He won the labour leadership, end of story. Can we please just let them talk about politics that actually matter?
highlights? We're fucked.
"You alright Ed?" xD
Every time I see Ed Miliband I always burst out laughing - is this strange? P.S. I think he looks like Wallace.
Miliband comes across in the Paxman interview like an awkward pubescent school-boy being grilled by the headmaster over his lack of homework. It's almost painful to watch.
Though I'm no fan of Cameron either, Etonian fool with the appearance of an estante agent; although that would require him to have had a real job.
Where can I see the full thing? I'm a British citizen.
channel 4 website, if you're abroad, use zenmate on chrome.
Ooooh Ed's bacon sandwich reference fell flat.
I've never seen bias so overt, apart from the Daily Mail.
Next the news anchors will start shouting their opinion and spouting erroneous shit, like Fox News.
This was a brilliant masterclass in how to spend one and a half hours in a shiny suit and say absolutely nothing.
'eating a bacon sandwich' HOW RELATEABLE ... so cringy
It's a comment about a 'story' one of the tory papers printed. It's cringy that the papers have to run that sort of rubbish to win the PR war..
***** Agreed, I think that one was well rehearsed and he looked to slip it in almost casually to get a sympathy chuckle but it ended up coming off as choreographed and too planned. I reckon Ed would just do a lot better if he relaxed into it and simply said what people on the ground are saying, i.e project the majority of voices. Most people in the UK are sick of rich wealthy toffs taking the piss.
Ukip is getting my vote. I'm sick off the lies and false promises of both the Cons and Labour come election time. I can't be alone in thinking it's time for a change. I also ask myself, why are so many trying to smear Ukip...a party that has not yet had a chance to prove itself?
You seem like a reasonable and educated person so implore you, PLEASE look into UKIP a bit further before you give them your vote. Disenfranchisement with the establishment parties is no reason to run into the open arms of a party of Ultra-Thatcherists comprised almost entirely of former Tory MPs, with the laziest voting record in European parliament. Have you considered the Green party? I'm not evangelising them or anything but they have a similarly Eurosceptic stance as well as a generally more progressive and sane manifesto (do UKIP even have a manifesto yet?). Of course your vote is your own and if you've already made an informed choice to vote UKIP then all the best to you. :)
UKIP is constantly saying the media is trying to smear it, as if there is a conspiracy to support the other three. I wouldn't trust any party who's support is based on the feeling that the UK has fallen and needs to be 'recovered' as there really isn't much life left in Westminster anymore.
Dan Laurikietis
Green party are the left wing UKIP, policies are illogical and bordering communist
I don't think it's entirely accurate to compare the Greens to UKIP but I get where you're coming from. I assume you're referring to Universal Basic Income? I, personally, think it's a great idea that could potentially eradicate poverty though it'd take some enormous economic sleight of hand to make it work. If George Osborne can "magic up" money through quantative easing then surely a government that has the interests of the people in mind could make it work? I'm not entirely sure of the Greens myself yet but on paper their policies are a lot more appealing than "Austerity", "More Austerity", "Austerity-Lite" and "Thatcherism on sterioids".
UKIP enough said
Will Paxman be doing one with Nigel?? If he was there he would have blown these two muppets out of the water. I've got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.
voting ukip
They're backed by bankers and fat cats... you're basically voting for conservative without knowing...
Arcturus Dunhelm But it's because of the fat cats and bankers, that we're in a dumping ground! We've been in austerity for the past 7 years, and the debt has merely flown through the roof, because those with the money, aren't paying into the system. I understand people's feeling to vote for UKIP, but it's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
I honestly don't know who to vote for, because they really are all as bad as each other, and they are all in debt to they're investors. They give the working public just enough to keep going, whilst they take the cream off the top.
Wish you the best of luck whoever you decide to vote for.
James Hodgkins That is patently incorrect. A small percentage of taxpayers actually cover a significant proportion of the tax receipts. Turning the screws on them will literally make them leave, with the resulting gaping hole in the budget. They are in Britain because conditions there are acceptable, not because of the excellent road networks and wonderful weather. These people are mobile, I know because I decided to leave the moment they started messing about with the non-dom setup.
The City, while on occasion playing fast and loose with the rules generates a huge amount of wealth for Britain and does not deserve singling out as some pound of flesh to be hounded by fervent socialists with a spotty economic record who want more of everything and fail to understand that it doesn't all add up. There used to be a saying that "the facts of life are Conservative" - it reflects that if you apply logic to the election and strip out ideology, Conservative policies tend to be more beneficial to the economy, which is at the core of all other policy.
Good luck with that lol
fettlemaster Thanks for your reply, and please don't get me wrong, I don't claim to be an expert. But from my experiences the banking industry has only really benefited London. I live in Birmingham, and I can tell you none of the wealth is finding it's way up here, it stays very much down south.
Also, I understand what you're saying, but bending over backwards for the financial sector whilst it robs the UK blind, just because every now and then it throws us a few bones is a recipe for disaster. If the sector benefited us that much, we wouldn't be more than £1 Trillion worth of debt.
I know we can't just pull the plug, but putting a plaster over a severed artery and pretending it's all ok, isn't an answer either...
Wow, I´d love to see this kind of debate here in Spain instead of asking the prime minister of Spain silly questions and kissing his ass. Good for England. If a Spanish reporter ask those same questions the man would be out of work in no time.
I think that this clip has deliberately used parts to look bad on Ed Milliband and it looks like Paxman was being patronising to him, and yet really Cameron's comments are staged and empty, its not enough after 5 years having been PM in terms of evidence, Cameron has failed and yet we are in a position where he'll probably be the next PM - depressing.
Lies, lies and more lies.
Anyone considering voting Labour should remember the Winter of Discontent and 3 day working week. If you're too young google it.
Daniel May Anyone considering voting Tory should remember Thatcher. And Gove. And Gideon. And IDS. And Norman Tebbit... and so on ad infinitum.
The Tories are all monsters, and Thatcher was Darth Vader in drag.
Abradacamera Thatcher maybe. Don't get how 1/3 of the UK can vote for a party which messed up the economy as badly as WWII. Conservatives are doing a fine job and now we are having elections where people are giving Labour the chance to mess it all up again. Sad...
The economy ditching would have happened to any government who happened to be to be governing at the time. Enjoy the last three weeks of the Tories, because it's all going to change on May 8th. And in case you hadn't noticed, it's not the Conservatives governing alone. They're in coalition, and an awful lot of the positive stuff this government has achieved has been because of the influence of the Liberal Democrats. And an awful lot of the moronic negative, spiteful snotty-boy stuff has come from the Tories. Good riddance to them when they're toast. Only 33% of the voters vote for them, and the only reason half of them vote Tory is because they're afraid of the Labour party. This country is in desperate need of electoral reform, so that people can vote for what they want, which in general, is moderation. An option they never get offered.
Abradacamera Saying that any party would have done badly at the time is just pathetic. I don't want my taxes paying for lazy ass people to stay on benefits. A conservative government people get what they earn. I don't want our country to be a charity for immigrants, obese and lazy people. I would vote UKIP but unfortunately not enough people realise it.
Vote UKIP then. See if you can get some other geniuses to switch from the Tories and join you.
What would the Tories have done different if the world had been in financial melt-down, do you think? Regulated the banking sector more rigorously to make sure it never happened? Dream on.
ed was the best
"I'm not gonna win a contest of who looks better eating a bacon sandwich" 😂
personaly i don't have anything against miliband he seems like a nice person but im not sure on his ideas
No one chooses to go into a zero hours contract!! Why the hell would anyone CHOOSE to contract themselves to unguaranteed work?.. Shows how removed from society Cameron is.. Muppet.
I'm a student in Oxford who has a zero hours contract with a waitering agency in London and I'm grateful for it. I'm not guarenteed work but when I do go home and apply for a shift I will usually get one, a zero hours contract means flexibility and Cameron changing the policy so that you can have multible 0hr contracts only assists in this.
Im voting labour
Cameron is charismatic and Miliband is not at all. The result was inevitable.
Ed for PM.
I don't dislike Milliband, and I think he put on an impressive performance here but he is not tough enough. He wasn't tough enough to oppose Iain Duncan Smith's vile and unlawful Workfare scheme. He wasn't tough enough to oppose the fear mongering surrounding the Scottish referendum. He isn't tough enough to snub tax-evading donors or drag the neoliberal contingent that has usurped the Labout party back to the left screaming and kicking, and he isn't tough enough to oppose the ideological austerity that has retarded the economy for the past 5 years. Good on Paxo for calling the PM on his bare faced lie about reducing the debt, though.
Where is Nigel Farage? Sounds like a scam.
i think be more foodbanks more selling of assets and a health service starting resemble usa were only wealthy can afford treatments? these guys havnt said anything ,that would make me want to vote either. paxman did fair job at telling cameron the truths,but plenty more coulda be said
faretheewell ED
ukip all the way
Lovely bias from Channel 4 as per.
He vomited on that bacon sandwich. I thought Jews don't eat pork anyway. Should stop the cringeworthy chumming up.
"I'm not gonna win a contest of who looks better eating a bacon sandwich" 😂