Why Catholics have Crucifixes (rather than empty cross)
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- I HATED Crucifixes growing up. This is why I changed my mind.
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The cross was a favorite method of torture used by the Romans. Thus an empty cross as used in protestant churches is just an homage to an instrument of torture.
Jesus in the cross gives a totally different meaning to the cross as an instrument of salvation.
That is why Paul says "I preach Christ and him crucified"
Jesus on the cross, also makes the devil look like the powerless addition of glib and murderous greed driven true madness that he is.
Fear not those who can kill the body........
There is little evidence the early church actually use crosses as symbols for Christianity and took even longer time to accept crucifixes. It's understandably why because Romans still crucified people. Early Christians going around with golden crucifixes around their necks would appear extremely strange since Romans was still crucifying people. I wouldn't doubt 1st century Christians would find it odd Christians today wearing golden crosses let alone golden crucifixes as jewelry.
Paul preached "Christ and him crucified" is not Paul preaching on crosses vs crucifixes.
Great point.
Meditating on the sorrowful mysteries helped me forgive my co workers who bullied me last year when I was in RCIA.
Good for you to keep on with your faith. Your coworkers are missing out on the joy that is yours. People who bully have no inner core of strength, and act as children who bully out of misplaced envy.
Sorry to hear that. Why did they bully you? Are they in other churches,?
The rosary helps change us to be more like Christ. Same thing with me.
I share an apartment with my sister. I tend to keep my religious items in my room, except for rosaries and my print Bible. Even though I’m a Catholic, she is a Baptist. I’m a convert.
Why did you convert? If I may ask.
@@anne-marielouiserey4244 I would say the main issue was the Eucharist although there were other issues. I thought about being Russian Orthodox (this was before Putin did the thing with Ukraine a second time), but I have Upon This Rock by Steve Ray somewhere.
@@joshuaneace6597 oh really? That's great. And if I may ask again, did you find it changed your life? Was there anything different or extraordinary that took place? Also did you go through persecution? Especially with other churches. They dislike Catholics. Also what about your family? They must have been surprised.
@@anne-marielouiserey4244 so I was slowly becoming that and although my family would prefer that I be Baptist, they said basically as long as I believe in Jesus, that it is fine. They sometimes go to Mass with me (mainly around holidays) and I sometimes go to their ecclesiastical community (while attending Mass as well). Some people called me a heretic but it was just words and people “praying for my soul.” I say let them pray for me.
That better be a KJV 😂. Luckily the Ordinariates have a KJV for Catholics.
I've heard more than one priest say : without Jesus on the cross, all you're looking at is an instrument of torture and death. Then I think that they're right, the focus of the cross is Jesus and not just the cross alone. Just sharing a thought 🤔
I personally think a empty cross is a idol. Just plain wood with no meaning where a crucifix has a very Real meaning! It’s such a huge difference in the two! I got rid of my empty cross and only have crucifixes now
Well done and bravo. You are awesome. Paul preached the cross. Protestants of all people should know this.
Some Lutheran churches have crucifixes also. I’m sure Angelicans do too
God Bless you Sister 🙏🏻
Goodness. I havent seen your channel in a while. So glad to see you pop up on my timeline again. God bless your work!
Cradle Catholics are soooo used to the crucifix. My parents had a fairly large one in their bedroom. As kids we stared at it a lot. My mom also put out a picture of The Sacred Heart too! That’s pretty freaky for kids because Jesus is showing his heart. Not a cute valentine but an organ. But yes, growing up Catholic we sure do ponder his sufferings and wounds.
cradle Catholic here :) i 100% agree, it never occurred to me that the Crucifix was like “creepy” per say. i always saw it as a representation of His love, humility, and sacrifice.
This video reminded me that its very important to be aware of how people who did not grow up either Catholic or Orthodox did not necessarily grow up understanding the importance of depicting Jesus at all stages of His life. As an Orthodox Christian, I've grown up very used to seeing icons of Jesus on the cross and crucifixes and it has never bothered me. (Not to say that it can't be bothersome, still, to those who're cradle Orthodox or Catholic, because it can be, and everybody has their own spiritual journey.) I'm just realizing that it has never occurred to me, as a cradle Orthodox Christian, to be "triggered" by seeing Jesus on the cross. I understand that this is a jarring image to many, however. It puts us face-to-face, in as much as that is possible without having seen with our own physical eyes, the crucifixion and Jesus' death.
Beautifully said!
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"...we preach Christ crucified..."
(1 Corinthians 1:23).
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This was helpful, esp the prayers :) I’m a Protestant sister who’s followed you for years & dealt with bipolar too ❤❤
Thank you so much for your spirit filled explanations. God bless you!
I love how you say that"...empty crosses.." evangelize like Elijah, remember always and never forget that Holy Mother Church deeply needs you and so does Our Lord Jesus Christ. Never ever forget not even for one second that you were called, chosen by Christ to serve Holy Mother Church
Psalm 22 - He starts this psalm, and the bystanders know the rest of the psalm. Just like we say “Our Father”, we know the rest of the prayer. When they considered the rest of the psalms they drop their swords. Jesus has a message to them when He says this psalms. He knows God The Father would never ever forsake Him.
1 Cor 2:2 “For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ, and him crucified.”
A empty cross has no power
It could mean just a small letter "t", nothing significant just a letter.
Funny you mentioned Immaculee. I was on that website today. I made myself a Seven Sorrows Rosary. I love saying it. Immaculee promotes it.
You did a great job of explaining that subject. You seem to be really sincere. Did you have formal education in the study of Christ?
As a former Protestant, l used to believe that Jesus Christ is risen, no need to depicted Jesus dying in the cross.. so therefore it's a form of idolatry, because no one had seen Him..
Now, as a Catholic, now l do understand the difference between Catholic and Protestant Cross..
What’s your reasoning for accepting to pray to Our Holy Theotokos Mary? Since Protestants teach that it’ s wrong
@@FoundSheep-AN long story.. to make it short..
Lots of verses in that Encourage to pray for 1 another..
👉 James 5:16
1 Timothy 2: 1
Saints are not dead, they can hear our prayers.
👉 Revelation 5:8 & 8:3
Matthew 17: 2-5
Shows clearly Saints are alive, even Jesus' Disciple never seen Moses and Elijah before, but they recognize them.
Hebrews 12:1
A cloud of witness over us. Meaning to say, aside from the HOLY Trinity, Angels and Saints are watching us.
Even Angel can do prayer request
👉 Tobit 12:12-14
Lastly, Revelation 12.
Shown , Mary is the Highest Saints according to the description of having 12 star rank..
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Job even call upon the Saints
👉 Job 5:1
So what is the difference in your mind ? The risen living Savior and Lord gives new spiritual life and the catholic crucifix is means dead religion !
@@isrberlinerin4063 Crucifix mean a remembrance of Jesus Christ's great sacrifice and sufferings.. well as His Face!!! That's not dead..
@@Mr.CUTE777 Jesus Christ never said remember Me in a catholic crucifix . Jesus said : do this in remembrance of Me , yet the Cross was still ahead of Him . The crucifix is strictly a religious symbol . Those of us Born Again true Christians know in our hearts how much he suffered so we could be saved reconciled to the Father and have eternal life with Him . How about your Heart (not religion ) , is it right with God ?
Im roman catholic I've never wore a crucifix but I've worn crosses and every time i wore it i had horrible luck not sure what that means
Beautiful.
God bless
Hello lizzy
Catholicism is Christ is still crucified as long as there is a single unrepentant sinner here on earth. So, Catholics are called upon to pray and suffer for his sinful brother & sister.
Well said.. Something else to think about. Jesus is pure love and pure love suffered. If we are to grow in love, we must experience it. We must experience what love itself experienced, that of suffering. In order for us to learn love at a deeper level, we must experience it at a deeper level. The deepest level is suffering because that's what love itself did. Thanks be to God for allowing us to participate in His passion with any sufferings we experience on earth for we could not grow in love without it. Thanks be to God.
He is risen and no longer on the cross! The victory was over the cross and death.
1 Corinthians 1:23-30
King James Version
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
@@Obedience33 1 Corinthians 15:1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve. 6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
I like Celtic crosses to.
7:30 _"Protestant reaction"_
Baptist reaction. Lutherans are Protestants too, Anglicans are Protestants too.
Both of these do have Crucifixes. For Calvinists, I am not sure, in fact I think they haven't.
It's pretty probable that ISR Berlinerin lives in Germany.
It's pretty obvious to me that Catholics largely ignore me and I have a heavy following by non-conformists or evangelicals, including 7DA, who are not the least interested in getting my writing into print, but very interested in finding out what's "wrong" with me ... take a look at the stats from my main blog. Overall, the stats from the 16th were on over 10 000 on my blogs, and this is not the first time. It's usually Germany and Sweden that head those days, in the week stats from today you'll find the US has come in above Sweden, but not above Germany.
One week 3,58 k, one single day, the 16th, above 2.5 k.
Germany 2041 United States 645 Sweden 381
Russia 256 France 196 India 26
The Netherlands 5
Canada, Finland, Ukraine 3 each, 9
Benin, Czechia, United Kingdom, Turkey, Vietnam 2 each, 10
Belgium, Cyprus, Greece 1 each, 3
Other 8
2041 + 645 + 381 + 256 + 196 + 26 + 5 + 9 + 10 + 11 = 3580
Yeah, maybe he's mentally ill, or on drugs. Not saying for certain; just a theory. Doesn't seem like he even knows what he's talking about.
Jesus didnt come off the cross by himself. he died there it was his ultimate sacrifice for mankind, and was taken down and placed in a sealed tomb. The miracle happened three days later when he emerged from the tomb resurrected.
0:35 sth ... if you were looking at the crucifix, you were in fact assisting at Mass in a perfect way.
As Catholics we believe the sacrifice of the Mass is really and truly the same sacrifice as on Calvary.
Your catholic arrogant self-righteousness and delusional thinking has no bounds . To claim that a catholic Mass is the same as what the living Savior and Lord did on the Cross of Calvary is utterly bizarre and an insult to the living Savior . By the way Jesus Christ is not a catholic religion nor any other religion , he does not live in religious symbols and rituals ! The living Savior and Lord Jesus Christ lives only in the hearts of people that receive Him follow and worship only Him .
@@isrberlinerin4063 I am sorry, but you are attacking me as a person for in fact remaining a Catholic.
Jesus said so Himself by "do this in remembrance of me" and "which shall be shed for the forgiveness of sins" ...
I believe what Jesus said, and you do not.
When you go to Hell, you will see who was the arrogant one in God's eyes.
@@hglundahl With you catholics the Truth is always an attack . I am not sorry for what i wrote , it is obvious you reject Gods real plan of Salvation . When Jesus said taking communion do this in remembrance of me it does not automatically saves you . When he said that the Cross was yet ahead of Him . Yes He paid the penalty for our sins on the Cross of Calvary , but He did not stay there He rose and became the Living Savior and Lord . Since you already condemned me to hell its no surprise that is the religious catholic way and no wonder you call evil good . I say be careful what you wish for it may happen to you !
Isrberlin: the "real" plan of salvation? No true Scotsman much? And you all can't even agree with what the way of salvation actually is, nor how do interpret scripture. How is it that Catholics call evil good? Do you have any examples, and evidence? Or are you just generalizing, strawmanning, and arguing from ignorance?
8:00 Given _what_ psalm He quoted, was He really perfectly kind against all his persecutors?
They could sense He was comparing them to the Oxen of Bashan ..
Catholics have a very educated way about themselves.
~And the crucifix being displayed in public, shows the world at large, what Jesus went though on the cross.
There is much more, than just that!
Catholics are indoctrinated with deceptive religious man-made doctrines !
Yes, we have a millenia of culture which is the basis of today's culture. Only the ignorant can claim that we are a superstitious and backward lot.
I never understood how protestants can have a cross without Christ.
Hi Lizzie, where can I buy icons like the ones you have hanging behind you?
The cross of Christ is the reminder of the sacrifice of Jesus and like Moses lifted up the staff in the dessert to save those stricken by the serpent. ❤😊
I haven’t seen newer videos , did you quit?
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“His Obedience and trust in God” but isn’t her God?
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Keep your eyes on the crucifix, for Jesus without the cross is a man without a mission, and the cross without Jesus is a burden without a reliever.”----Fulton J. Sheen (Venerable)
1 Corinthians:
23 but we are proclaiming Christ crucified[a]- to Jews, an offense; and to Gentiles, foolishness; 24 but to the called ones themselves, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
Galatians 3:1, KJV: O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
NIV: You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified.
RSV-CE O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?
In any ranslation, since the Galatians likely were not a Cavalry, it sounds like they were looking at a crucifix.
A better question is why do you bow down and pray the statues of Mary when you are only supposed to pray to Jesus?
There were two criminals also crucified along with Jesus on that day and each of the three were hung on the wooden cross side by side, but there was difference between the cross of two others and the cross of Jesus. On top of the cross of Jesus there was a name plate which said (INRI) Meaning Jesus of Nazareth,. King of the Jews. Protestants claim that Jesus died on the cross and rose to life but the Catholics still carry the hung up Jesus on the cross. But if the cross is without Jesus and the name plate like the plain wooden cross of the Protestants, then the Protestant plain wooden cross is not of Jesus but it is of the rebellious criminal. As simple as that.
Thanks ... you can also mention these verses:
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the Word of the Cross is certainly foolishness to those who are
perishing. But to those who have been saved, that is, to us, it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians {1:22} For the Jews ask for signs, and the Greeks seek wisdom. {1:23} But we are preaching Christ crucified. Certainly, to the Jews, this is a scandal, and to the Gentiles, this is foolishness. {1:24} But to those who have been called, Jews as well as Greeks, the Christ is the virtue of God and the wisdom of God. {1:25} For what is foolishness to God is considered wise by men, and that which is weakness to God
is considered strong by men.
1 Corinthians {2:2} For I did not judge myself to know anything among you, except Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
Galatians {3:1} O senseless Galatians, who has so fascinated you that you would not obey the truth, even though Jesus Christ has been presented before your eyes,
crucified among you?
Galatians {6:14} But far be it from me to glory, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom the world is crucified to me, and I to the world.
Phillipians {3:17} Be imitators of me, brothers, and observe those who are walking similarly, just as you have seen by our example. {3:18} For many persons, about whom I have often told you (and now tell you, weeping,) are walking as enemies of the cross of Christ. {3:19} Their end is destruction; their god is their belly; and their glory is in their shame: for they are immersed in earthly things.
5:47 The prayer you mentioned, loosely based on Corinthians, is one of the additions in the New Liturgy.
You may note it is not there in either Latin Mass or Eastern Liturgies ... it is one of the reasons some have to reject the New Liturgy, as "until you come again" sounds like an odd thing to say after transsubstantiation, when Christ is already there before us.
That said, the actual text in Corinthians is a proof text for Mass really being a sacrifice.
Lizzie, The Church of Christ was not part of the prodestant movement. Not really important, but it is misinformation.
The only thing I have against Catholic Church is the fact that they changed the 10 Commandments. If you don’t believe me ask them about Sabbath vs Sunday. Only God can change His law. Yes I have family that are SDA but I’m not, however the SDA have a legitimate case against Sunday Worship!
Catholics follow the LXX Greek version of the early Church and NT, while Protestants follow the Masoretic version.
@@tbw980371 I don’t even know what you’re referring to perhaps you could explain it in common English instead of referring to something that is specific knowledge. I’m not stupid but not familiar with the reference you mentioned.
Catholics did not change the 10 commandments. It is lifted and literally numbered like the one in Exodus and Deuteronomy. I've seen a lots of Catholic RUclips videos about this. Maybe go out of your comfort zone some times and and look into those perhaps? 😊 They can better explain it than I do.
Acts 15 just debunks SDA doctrine because at that verse is the council of Jerusalem(first council of the Catholic church) where all the Jewish practices necessary for salvation was condemned from temple sacrifice, circumcision,eating pork,Sabbath etc that's why We celebrate on a Sunday because Jesus resurrected on a Sunday
@@michaelwachira8484 You can give reasons why you go to church on the first day but reasons without Biblical justification is still a church making rules instead of Scripture making a change in God’s law. God wrote the 10 Commandments with his finger on tablets of stone and the human leaders of your church changed one of Gods Commandments. All those other things you mentioned were ceremonial rules but the Sabbath was one of the 10 Commandments that’s completely different set of Law.
You know, one thing didn’t teach you before he got crucifix on the cross did you know who he travel to India and practice yoga for seven years
Must deny himself.......Greed and usury are AGAINST God. This is what Emperor Louis "the Pious", son of Charlemagne (preparing the world for the return of Jesus) said about it:
God forbid and we do not want it, but should it happen that one among them (the 2 later 3 younger brothers _and their offspring/heirs/lawfull successors_ of Louis' eldest son Lothar, he and the eldest of his lineage, called Lotharingen, designated to be his single successor.......as Emperor) lusting after worldly goods - which is really the root of all evil - divides or oppresses the churches, extorts the poor or becomes a tyrant in which lies every cruelty then, according to God's ordinance, let him be secretly admonished by faithful messengers a first, a second, and a third time for amendment. And should he reject this, then he will be summoned by his - eldest - brother and in the presence of the other brother fatherly and in brotherly love admonished and rebuked. And should he wholly disregard this salutary admonition, it shall be decided by the common consent of all what should be done with him; and when salutary admonition cannot prevent criminal action, imperial power and common decree will restrain it.
Crucifixes came from European liars and Jesus is no longer on the cross for he have ascended above all heaven's so I will pick empty crosses over crucifixes any days
No one cares, why are you even here?
European liars ?
Jesus was peaceful but I'm sure he was in a severe amount of pain