Three Screw Ruger Super Blackhawk
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- Having a look at some of my single action revolvers...the Ruger 44's! Getting a feel for the differences between the New Model and the Old Model, and making up our mind on a "project gun". The gun in question is a 1960 made Ruger Super Blackhawk. We look it over, take it out and shoot it, and make a decision about whether to refinish it or not.
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I wouldn't refinish it, The wear gives it character.
I also agree with you it does give it Character .
However This is how I look at it I would refinish it Build it The Way I would like it and Then Anywhere I Put On it we'll give it character from my use and Then when I pass it Down to my son he can say my dad gave it this Is character
Do it... make it purty..
Man, I just sealed the deal on two Ruger New Model Super Blackhawks that had been lying in the gun store unused and unsold since 1988. When I looked up the serial numbers it turned out they were made in 1973. Then I remembered this video and that there was supposed to be something special about the guns from that year, so I watched the video again and yeah, my revolvers do have the recessed chambers. Pretty cool. 🙂
Those should be really nice guns! Treat them well and they will take care of you!!
Grand ole opry in the background! Used to watch that at my grandparents house when I was a kid. Wow that brings back memories.
I have a non converted blackhawk 41 mag made in 69. In great shape. Such beautiful old guns.....mine has a hair trigger probably 1 lb and is an extremely accurate gun. I love these old wheel guns......
Fine collection of Ruger single action revolvers !
I too am a fan of the Ruger single actions !
My first was in 1964 and I carried it for 50 years !
I added the Old Army to my collection and being that I had casted bullets all my life it was easy casting round lead balls , very accurate and always black powder either FFF or FFFF!
I use the Kieth style 170 grain bullet in my .357 !
In my .44’s it’s always been the Keith 255 grain !
In 2018 I tried the 310 grain hard cast WNFP with great success on the target ( when I’m in Bear country that’s what I carry in it )
The 255 grain Keith is an excellent bullet too for Bear loaded with 20.2 grains of 2400 !
I won a turkey at a turkey shoot at Port Townsend, WA back in the day with my old .44 flattop. The head of metallic silhouette turkey behind a log at 100 yd. Great gun.
Great video, I have a 1958 era Ruger Blackhawk 44 mag that my dad bought new. Thanks for some cool information. Dad used to carry the gun with six bullets in it , but one day after a hunting trip he was putting stuff away in the gun room and somehow the 44 fell out of the holster and landed on the hammer discharging a round that hit a concret wall and richocheted hitting dad in the back! Doctors left the bullet in due to the fact it would have caused more damage to remove it. Dad used to joke that he survived getting shot with a 44 mag!
I have a 3 screw .357 / 9mm convertible and a 3 screw single six .22/.22mag convertible. Both "unmolested" as well. Your video made me appreciate them like an old dog. For a while I was beginning to think about using them as trade in bait on a new Colt, but now I think not. Always wanted a SBH in .44, guess I'll have to start looking. Thanks!
I hunt with a 1968 Super Blackhawk. Absolutely fabulous firearm. I own several other pistols but the 1968 is by far my favorite. It is more accurate than I can shoot.
Wonderful set of Rugers! My Blackhawk was made in 1988, and has always been one of my favourites!
I'm in Ruger heaven right now. I love everything about these guns.....and the video behind you.😀
Bought my 3 screw 357 4 5/8 bbl in 1970. Never checked to see when it was made tho. Love it! wouldnt take million for it.
I always enjoy listening to your gun talk
Beautiful collection. Thanks for showing.
I was lucky enough to score an old model 3-screw Super Blackhawk in 1978, made about 1969, with the Super blue, super polish. I don’t know that I would ever refinish it, but I could see why you would want to. You got a great deal on it for under $500. I also have a 3-screw Blackhawk convertible in .45 Colt/.45 ACP; great guns. Thanks for sharing your beautiful collection.
That flat top - the 2nd revolver you show was made early in 1957 - like January. I have a 4XXX serial just like that. Thanks for the review!
Very fine video. My Blackhawk .41 mag. I purchased in 1979, so it's a New Model, and I have a New Vacquero, newer yet, and a Pietta .45 copy of the Colt SAA. I'd love to get an older .44 Blackhawk, so I could have all three magnums in Ruger Single Actions (I have a nice Taurus DA .44). But I love the four-click Pietta, and would love to find an older Ruger three-screw. Thanks for sharing yours with us, and for the well-filmed and well-edited video. Much appreciated. Happy and safe shooting!
Excellent, detailed, thorough, and exciting information on some of the best revolvers ever made.in the world. Thank you for taking the time. Stay safe, Cheers
I know it's just a Super Blackhawk, but I suggest you leave it alone. That natural finish wear is part of its charm! If it were a NM, I wouldn't say anything, but since it's an early OM SBH, leave it alone...in my opinion.
I have a three screw 1962 44, super black hawk that is the pride of my collection
Very nice revolvers TY for sharing
You’re right about the deep polished blue on the early guns. Almost like a Smith.
The trigger too - The trigger on my Blackhawk is always perfect. There’s something special about a Ruger too, like that gun has a soul.
dear Charlie , you are correctomundo. I do believe each of my Ruger revolvers have a Soul.
When I'm at the pearly gates I expect to be greeted with my SS old Army.
Excellent video. I'm going to have to closely examine my dad's Super Blackhawk to determine what we have. I do know it's an early one. I remember you have to half cock it to turn the cylinder. First .44 mag I ever shot.
Nice collection. I have a 79 in .357. Everyone at the range makes fun of me for it…until they shoot it for the first time 😉
My fav of three screw ! 357 T0 44 MAG Love THEM ALL!
Great video.
love those cylinder clicks :)
Awesome video. Just acquired my first Ruger Blackhawk in .357. Found out later it was a 1976 year made which made it more special.
Thanks for the video. Just grabbed a 1970 super blackhawk at an auction here in Iowa for $600
Took it out for deer huntin first time this last weekend. Took a button buck through the eye at 30 yards. 44 mag.
I suppose you’d say I destroyed my early 1964 SBH, that I bought used. It was well holster worn, especially the aluminum tube supporting the ejector rod. In the late 1970s I took a gunsmithing class at a local Community College. I filed the old crummy finish off, then used gradually,finer sandpaper for a true shiny, smooth finish. The instructor had a hot bluing rig, so in it want. It had a terribly sensitive trigger, not safe in my opinion.
A few years ago, I sent it to Ruger, for the “conversation”: The rear sight and the ejector guide were replaced with new pieces. The gunsmith misunderstood the note I sent to Ruger with the gun. He thought I wanted it reblued, and called me to say the finish was too good to reblue. My refinish job passed his approval. I shot just .44 Special when it came home. It’s back home in the safe waiting…..
Ruger trigger job, unhook one side of the spring. There is a groove on some blackhawks so you can drop the hammer between the chambers. Don't know how many years that feature existed, but it allows for a full load.
It's my understanding that when they started making the new model Super Blackhawk they still had about 7500 cylinders from the old model available to them so those were the only new models that they made with the recessed cylinder. I do happen to own a 5 and a half inch and a slightly later flat top than you are showing. They only made 452 6 1/2 in super Blackhawks. They are my favorite firearm. So much so that all three of my sons were shooting my super Blackhawk by the time they were 10 with Full House loads.
Great Blackhawks. I have two originals with brass grip frames and no transfer bar that I use for Cowboy shooting, a newer model with stag grips, another newer model with Bisley grips and a New Model in 454 Casull. I took it to a cowboy match once and they told me not to bring it back. Hadda buy some new steel targets . . .
As far as your "Project" gun i really believe that you'd be screwing up BIG TIME by having it refinished.
Well I dont know where to start. I just gotta say, after sitting here watching u tube videos for 3 years, this is most interesting one I have viewed !! Im in Ohio, but I believe we must be brothers. I collect the older Ruger double action wheel guns from the 70s, plus just added a 1970 3 screw Blackhawk in 41 MAGNUM.
I have a Ruger Blackhawk 44 mag. with the serial # 6496 built in Feb. 1958. Stag handle grips and a delight to shoot. Wouldn't sell it for any amount.
Nice guns man! I love the three screw models, but for everyday on the farm I rather have the new model. Don't have to worry about the empty chamber under the hammer. 👍🏻👍🏻
With old model you can drop the hammer between the chambers, at least on the Blackhawks. I don't have a Super. There is a groove between the chambers for the firing pin.
I loved your video I learned a lot ! I have a super Black Hawk with a serial number 80-02160 supposedly a 1969. It’s a beautiful piece with a gold plated hammer and trigger and a few other things
Old Rugers and ole Steve Earle, can't beat it
Yep that was a good day in the shop!
First click is a hammer safety. Firing pi wont go forward onto primer.
My Dad left for me his 1960 Three screws Flattop 44 the he purchased in 1962 at the local Western Auto store along with a Edward Bolan buscadero fast draw holster. The handgun has maybe 300 rounds through the barrel by me and maybe about the same from when dad was here. ,
What a beautiful collection! I just purchased a flat top 44Mag Blackhawk, with a nice plum loading gate, will be here in a couple days, I'm so excited!
What he keeps referring to as an Elmer load is not a Kieth load. The Kieth load was 22 grains of 2400 not 20 grains and a 250 grain Kieth cast bullet. Skeeter Skelton preferred a load of 21 grains of 2400. And the Kieth load is not really a hot load. It produces 1250 to 1350 fps in most handguns.
I have a 5.5 inch super blackhawk blued I love it 44
Great video and worth watching. Good history as well. I would favor leaving the gun as is, but that's up to you. Grips would set it off.
You know I've just picked up a 69 to 73 Is super Blackhawk pretty well worn but not just gone. mechanically flawless clean bore cylinders clean. 475 dollars out the door tax included
That's a pretty good price! I haven't seen any this year below $600
I would not re-blue or change the grips on that gun.
The plum color on the loading gate and sometimes on the frame because even that frame is starting to show a little bit of Plum color on that 1960 gun, is caused by a little bit of malleable iron a little bit of extra iron that's in that piece of metal. At least that's my understanding but I've seen that Plum color on a lot of loading Gates and on a few frames and does it look pretty when it shows up on the frame.
You might want to see if you can find some original grips for that 1960 gun.
If you want to just put it up a standard set of grips if you get a set of the most latest model grips and just take out the Ruger emblem, a 44 mag case head will epoxy in there just fine. Fits like it was made for it.
(Me) I would hunt with it, the blackhawk screams hunt with me, let me do my job.
I have the 357 , old model blackhawk it's also unmolested . I love the 4 clicks .
Agreed. Anything less just ain’t good enough.
Let me know if that 73 SBH is for sale 😉
Excellent video. Please humor me. I have just started purchasing collectable firearms. The newest addition being a 44 Flattop Blackhawk with a 5xx serial number. (Not as nice condition as yours) Anyhow I know modern Super Blackhawks can handle +P+ loads from manufactures such as Underwood. I am wondering if there are any restrictions in shooting hot loads in a 3 digit serial number 44 Mag or are they just as strong as the new ones. I am not new to firearms but I also know when to ask for advice. You seem like you may know a thing or two about Ruger 44s.
That flattop has a smaller grip than the SBH’s do. I’ve shot a fair number of “Elmer” loads through mine but I’ve stopped doing that. Now, the flattop gets moderate magnum level loads and the hotter stuff goes in an SBH or in my Seville. Your three digit numbered gun is probably pretty valuable so that’s another reason to go easy on it.
Shes a classy beauty no matter wgat you do with her.
Nice to see yr a Ruger guy. I have quite the Ruger collection as well. That flat top 44 what length barrel is it?
6 1/2”
@@RecoilTherapyChannel I have the 61/2" and a 10" flat top. The 71/2" is a tough one to find
leave it alone, rebjue and new grips will take all the history and class out of it.
Yes i have to agree.
Now if it was you that put the wear in it then no.
Have it reblued than a pair of stag grips.
Real ones are around $300.00 fake ones are around $85.00.
I have the fake ones.
I like them but with the Elmer loads they may slip on you. Cause thay are very smooth.
Mine is a 45colt. 5.5in barrel. Shooting 45acp ball ammo or cowboy loads is a lot of fun. Using Underwood hunting ammo is like the Elmer loads and you have to watch the smoothness. It is still controllable and i won't change them but something i have experienced.
Mine was a 1973, paid $150.00 for it..
Have a ruger super black bisley 454 casull ended up sending to belt. Mountan for a cylinder base pin
Just dont have the qulity ruger was known for
Did you get the project gun refinished? Pictures?
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isn't it worth more in original condition than refinishing it
If it had been in good condition then yes. But this one had been rode hard and put away wet for most of its life.
There’s a follow on video of this revolver now that I have it back. Check it out!
I have a old school three screw super how can I tell what year it was made
Google “Ruger Blackhawk serial number lookup”. You should find it straight away.
So it’s been two yrs since this video was posted, what did you end up doing with this beauty?
Personally I wouldn’t refinish either, especially since it still shoots so good.
OK, big confession coming up… It got refinished into a gorgeous state and there’s a video on the finished product. However, all of the single action Ruger except for the old army were bundled up and traded in so that I could get a genuine Colt single action army revolver. Couldn’t be happier either…
@@RecoilTherapyChannel Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do. I’m sure the Colt is a pretty nice addition too.
Mine is a 1963 357 mag blackhawk I've been thinking lately on if I should have the transfer kit put in so that when my grandson gets it , it will be a lot safer for him , what's your thoughts on this?
The best safety is between your ears. It’s on you to teach him the right way to handle and use guns. If he learns bad gun handling, then the transfer bar won’t make any difference.
Sad to say, but it seems a lot harder for kids to learn the basics of shooting these days. Many drags on their time and attention span!
@@RecoilTherapyChannel very good advice thanks
That 2400 powder really smoky did you ever try ww 296? Good video like to see people enjoying their firearms
I tried 296 but it’s only good for max loads. I tried 2400 looking for the ability to download a little.
@@RecoilTherapyChannel yes I agree I also use 2400 and 4227 the .44 cartridge is fun cartridge to load and experiment with enjoyed your video keep them coming
I have a 69 super blackhawk that shoots 6 inches high at 15 yards. It shoots high with 44 spc critical defence all tge way up to hornady lever evolition. The rear sight it bottomed out.
It has some other issues like damaged screws but the finish is 8.5/10.
Im going to call ruger about it today. But i dont thinks its me. I think its the gun because left to right was good and my groups were tight.
I’d be careful about letting Ruger mess around with that gun. Don’t let them put the stupid transfer bar conversion in there. Just my opinion, but I think the guys who work there now maybe are not quite as good as the guys that used to be there years ago… Your mileage may vary.
@@RecoilTherapyChannel do you know what causes the issue. I dont want to change the front sight, ive seen that people do that because its too short. I want to keep it original if posible. I just dont know a whole lot about revolvers.
@@pepep.3058 Revolver sites are always a little bit wonky. I have five Dan Wesson revolvers each of which is very expensive and their sites don’t always seem to line up. And sometimes takes fiddling and switching front sites. You can also change to a 6 o’clock hold on your target as a way to compensate. Revolver shooting takes a lot of skill. You have to learn your gun thoroughly.
Did you see you at the site bottomed all the way out? Dry going the other direction…
@@RecoilTherapyChannel yeah, i have experiance with rifles and semi autos so i know the basics of sight adjustment.
But yeah, i tried both going up and down and its is still shooting high.
I just bought a Blackhawk in 38-40, 10mm Buckeye but I don't have a 10mm cylinder. From what I understand you don't see them often. Where would I find a 10mm cylinder for it?
I would be scouring eBay and gun broker for something like that. Good luck!
Gayle Charpentier Super Black Hawk 44 Cal.magnum
Sorry, this took so long to get back to you… Here’s a link to the Ruger serial number look up webpage…
ruger.com/dataProcess/serialHistory/
Do you hunt with one or all of them?
No. If I ever get lucky and get on a buffalo hunt I would though
@Recoil Therapy Channel I use mine every year for whitetails, hogs and black bear and buddy that 44mag does a number on all of em. I load the 240 keith type bullets from Missouri bullet company, I got 500 for about 57.00.
The reason for the wings on the top strap on the super blackhawk is protection. Back in the day they were carried every day on guided hunts and ranches. And they would get broken off on the flat top models.
triple 7 for that old army.
Ooooo! Dry firing hurts!
Yup don’t do it much.
Dry firing a centerfire rifle or pistol doesn't hurt anything dry firing a rimfire and you can flatten out the firing pin otherwise it's just a old wives tale about dry firing
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🇧🇷 sou doido por esses modelos
Yep so am I!
Wasn’t Elmers load a 22 grains of 2400 with standard large pistol primers I believe I read that they were cci and he cast his own bullets Lyman 250 grain 429421 at 16 Burnell hardness
It was 22 grains but that was with the old balloon head 44 special brass, which actually gives a little better case capacity than modern 44 mag brass. Also, the alloy he preferred runs about 12 bhn.
My alloy is range scrap with a small amount of Lino and tin mixed in, and runs about 12 according to the Lee hardness tester.
@@RecoilTherapyChannel I perty sure his 44 special load with the balloon head cases was 18 grains of 2400 powder and when he got solid head cases in the 44special it was 17 grains of 2400 when they came out with the 44mag they had only solid head cases I like my Ruger flat top 44 special that Ruger come out a few years ago and I I’ve read and have Elmer Kieths book reference to sixguns
That could be… I have a 61 copy of six guns I should go back and look at it again. I really like 12 grains of 2400 in the 44 special case personally… It runs really nice.
@@RecoilTherapyChannel I also like skeeters skeleton load for the 44 special it is 7 1/2 grains of unique with the Keith bullet and I’ve been using Brian pierce load with 9 grains of power pistol with Keith bullet
I like my 4 5/8 super Blackhawk and it has less bluing than yours .
I'm so sorry I molested the s*** out of mine😬🤣 I sent it off to Ruger and had them put this stupid transfer bar in but I'm an avid hunter and there's lots of bears 🐻. How do you feel about it being molested a little more by Mag na port?
I think that stuff is all good on a hunting weapon…different tools for different jobs!
I have a 1972 three screw that is was magna ported before I owned it.
The recoil gate opens upon recoil and I cannot take it apart the clean its internals or try to fix the loading gate. I am considering sending it in for a transfer bar and so they can fix the loading gate.
Hopefully I get luck and they Re-blue it at no cost. 😁
Was just offered a 3 screw brass frame 357 with the box for $1000. I may have to do some horse trading.
Yeah I’d be doing about whatever it takes to get one of those, provided good condition and the original box and paperwork. Watch out for yellow boxes, those are not original, the real ones are white and red.
@@RecoilTherapyChannel I’m glad you mentioned the box, it actually does have a yellow box. I wonder if someone swapped out a brass frame at some point.
@@billhood6109 google the Ruger Blackhawk serial number look up. You can also email Ruger.
@@RecoilTherapyChannel I did that and found out it was made between 1971-72
Thanks for your replies. As it turns out the brass frame is meant to be on a 44 magnum based on the style of the trigger guard which I didn’t realize. The other thing I found out is that here in New Hampshire there quite a few spare brass frames around due to the close proximity to the Newport, NH factory. Needless to say for a $1000 I will pass.
Nice guns, to me a real Ruger only has 3 screws. You know your shit.
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Mucho bla bla bla y no entiendo Nada mire el video porque soy un apasionado de los revolveres de simple accion nada mas
Bueno, ¡al menos te sentaste a través de todo el bla bla bla jaja!
This is one of my favorite pistols! Hog hunt with the Stainless non-fluted with 4 3/8 barrel and a 5.5 barrel all of mine are 44magnum!! I am looking for a Winchester lever rifle with a 16” barrel! I would Love to see everyone with an old six guns things would start changing!! If you have time let me know and I would love to burn your ears about the Blackhawks! Just let me know and I will give you my number!😎
Mine is a 1963 blackhawk in
357 mag been thinking lately about having conversion kit put in so it will be a lot safer for my grandson to carry in a few years , what is your thoughts on this?
i had a 44 and a 41 i actually liked the 41 better seemed more accurate but my self i never could figure out why people always seem to have to run full house loads just to target shoot just makes no sense at all like why beat the crap out of your gun
Gayle Charpentier New Iberia, Louisiana I have a Super Black Hawk Serial # 12861 can you tell me about this gun, thank you if you can help.