I think it's the same deal that Dean had in Purgatory. There was a way out for him because humans are not meant to be there, the cage was met to hold angels not humans
I always thought the "Not my god" comment by the leprechaun was very interesting. Implying an entire separate dimension outside of Supernatural creation.
i love how everyone, even the show itself forgot about their half brother who also fell into the pit with sam. then they brought him back eventually after they remembered he existed and needed to close that story arc.
@@leosnyder5264they did forget....there was a special episode where Dean/Jensen said "whose Adam?" And the writers and thus characters never used that arc ever until it became a joke in the Fandom of Adam saying "I am still in hell." The joke was even used in the Hillywood Ghostbusters song, I believe.
I heard someone say that they initially intended to have Adam/Michael leave the box during the darkness story arc, but negotiations with Adam's actor's agent didn't go well.
There is another possibility as to why Cass could pull Sam's BODY out of the cage, but not his soul. The cage is in Hell. Heaven and Hell are places of the soul, NOT the body. Thus, the cage, meant to contain Lucifer, who does not have a physical body, would not be made to contain Sam's body, but it would be made to contain his soul. So Cass could have pulled out his body with ease for that reason, but could not pull out his soul.
And that is a real possibility considering cass was pretty powerful at this point and could go into hell getting the body out is easy but the soul is a totally different story and really the only being that was able to get his soul out of the cage was death
In supernatural heaven and Hell are not just places of the soul. Sam and dean have entered Hell plenty of times with their physical bodies. As far as heaven goes most people can’t but angels with vessels take their vessels with them. Heaven and Hell are more like soul storage facilities in SPN Edit: also the cage is entirely different. They may say it’s in Hell but it could be in its own pocket universe and the only way to get to it is through Hell
@@laverniustucker5061 nobody's body entered heaven as far as i remember ... as for hell, sam,dean, rowena entered hell alive for a brief period of time and rowena as she was dying ...
@@laverniustucker5061 they may have entered physically, but that doesn't change the fact that they are places of the soul, not body. Earth is a place of the body yet they use people's souls there on the show. It's more on how the laws of the area apply to the other aspect rather than the other aspect being/not being allowed there.
Without watching this video, I would have forgotten that Castiel was the only angel to ever encounter the four primordial entities. I have no objection to character ability to get in and out of cage. But what's curious is that before Lucifer was released, none of the demons knew the location of the cage. But after lucifer free, it seemed that many demons knew the location of the cage. Crowley was able to order his subordinates to study the Enochian script on the cage so that he could use it to control Lucifer's vessel. However, I hope to see videos about fairies and pagan gods in the future. They seem quite powerful but are often less talked about.
The cage was located in the deepest place of hell. Demons knew where it was all along but weren't able to come in contact with Lucifer. I bet many demons didn't even want to meet Lucifer. Azalea was the only demon who spoke with Lucifer.
Sam once wielded Mojlnir... and then it was never mentioned again. I assume he took it with them when they left the auction... If that was me, I would be taking that thing everywhere...
@@radagast7200actually, Mjolnir is shown one more time; in the psychotic fairy housekeeper episode in the last season, during the ‘East hunt/holiday’ montage, in one snippet, for like three seconds, he is shown holding it. It is not mentioned or referenced ever again outside of this.
I think the leprechaun breaking in and out of the cell we be even funnier if it was MADD Sweeney from American gods. I can see him walking they'd ask how'd you get here? He tells them I'm a leprechaun they'd say no, you're not your tall. Then i could see them going bach and forth. Then, MADD Sweeney would try to fight them, forgetting what he was there for. Or he teaches Castille how to do it but demands he fights him first
Part of it could also be that the 666 seals helped obscure or hide the cage and as they broke seals the magic hiding the cage wore down. Then after season 5 the cage was much easier to get to as the seals were never put back into place.
My theory was always that Cas, being an Angel of the lord, knew where Lucifer’s cage was maybe do to it being hardwired in their brains like prophet names and words of god. And the reason Cas was able to take Sam’s meat suit out but not his soul, is because Lucifer was still technically attached to Sam’s soul, and since Sam is human and not Angel his body could leave the cage without any seal having to be broken. Cas was strong, but still not strong enough to grip Sam’s soul away from Lucifer’s grasp.
Do you think Lucifer moved out of Sam's body as soon as he was in the cage again? Why not settle things with Michael once and for all, since both had vessels? I mean nobody was supposed to engage in their battle anyway and one of them had to live with the fact to have killed their brother. What did Raphael hope to accomplish by setting Michael and Lucifer free again?
@@Atticus-Catnipp I think that they were trapped in their vessels but powerless due to the magic of the cage. As for why Michael and Lucifer didn’t fight while in the cage, they could’ve either been powerless but still immortal so fighting would lead to nothing. Or perhaps Michael was so broken by the fact that his father let him be locked away and never released him that he saw no point in fighting Lucifer, and Lucifer probably saw it has a form of torture to not kill Michael after being defeated.
@@mikesmoviemadness24 it was stated that both Michael and Lucifer tortured Sam's soul. That is due to their hatred towards Sam who put them in this situation. So they were anything but powerless just pissed off. What would have happened if Cass did what Raphael told him to do? Free them from the cage and let the apocalypse continue. Raphael wanted to be the host of heaven. He didn't want to participate in their battle so what was there for him to gain?
@@Atticus-Catnipp I don’t think Michael actually did any torturing. It was all basically Lucifer, which begs the question why wasn’t Sam turned into a demon? A demon is a human soul twisted and corrupted from the torture of Hell. Was Sam’s year in Hell equivalent to 100 years or even longer? And as for why they didn’t kill each other in the cage, I think the battle was meant to ravage earth and actually kill millions of people because that’s what they were hoping would bring God back, not necessarily them fighting. And in the cage what would be the point of even fighting. Also they had to be powerless or at the very least powered down a little, because if those two had full powers that cage wouldn’t have stood a chance. As for Raphael, I don’t think he ever had any intention of trying to release Michael and Lucifer. That was just something he said to appease the Michael Loyalists still in Heaven. After all he did end up making the deal with Crowley for half the souls of Purgatory because that would give him definitive control over heaven and he could leave Michael and Lucifer where they were with no pushback.
From the way the Leprechaun talks when Sam say how can a leprechaun do what Angels can not. The way he goes Pfft angels sounds like the angels and leprechauns and Angels met before. Maybe that’s why they have to use tricks and only a few show up and not Thousands. They are probably keeping a low profile and not trying to get notice. Maybe they fought that would be a cool idea
I think the Fae were sort of in the same branch as the other pagan dieties. Presumably the greek and norse gods also had Olympus/Asgard deminsions, although we never see them. We also see a fairy in the LARP episode, but she is not nearly as nefarious as the other Fae they encounter.
I really don't like how Lucifer was treated near the end of the series. He kinda already had his purpose in the story served. It was total hype to see him in season 11 again but that's where it ends. His once menacing demeanor was ridiculous throughout season 12 all the way to the end. Honestly I hoped that Lucifer would just get tired of everything and return to the cage himself. The only place he really belonged. There was nothing for him out there in the world. Humans, demons and angels were all tired of him.
Fr it’s kinda boring but chuck is literally the writer, it happened because he wanted it to happen. The same way Castile magically healed after getting exploded, Chuck just thought it’d be more interesting if he came back
The ring theory actually explains literally everything, it explains how Cass could access the cage and why Sam was split into two halves after returning from Hell It also explains why Cass never used it again after losing one of the rings to Death
My way of thinking was always that god put some sort of way for none angels to leave the cage, the cage was always meant to keep Lucifer and only Lucifer inside, much in the same way that purgatory was suppose to keep monsters but most specifically the leviathan inside, so just like how god implimented a way to get humens out of purgatory, i suspect he had a way to get humens back, cas probably is the one who knew about this way and used it to bring sam back, so even tho its very headcannony cause we didnt see or hear about any of it. i think its consistant with the way god built the world in the supernatural verse
Well I always took it that the Cage we saw was what a human can perceive. The Cage's true form is more mystical like an angels true form. So I always thought Castiel managed to pull a part of Sam out but couldn't truly get into it all the way for all of Sam.
(I know that this video is a month old) I recently watched season 6 again, and in the BIG episode when castiel monologs, he has a conversation with Crowley where Crowley offers castiel a deal of, I think, 50,000 souls from hell to aid castiel in the civil war in heaven. I think it's implied that castiel was juicing with the souls because right after that, he talks about making his first impression on heaven and then followed up by saying he was able to bring sam back from the cage. Now, this doesn't explain how castiel knew where the cage was, but a couple possible explanations were that Crowley tipped castiel off, being the king of hell and all, or castiel went back to the cemetery where the gate was opened and just kinda fished him out, that also would explain why when sam woke up he was at the cemetery.
I think Leprechauns could probably jailbreak the cage, and they could probably also take on an angel- though probably not an archangel. We've seen magic put the whammy on some pretty heavy hitters. Leviathans and angels have both been seen to get hurt by witchcraft. Cas almost died because of Rowena's attack dog spell. I wager leprechauns probably know some fancy tricks. They probably taught witches some of it.
Leviathans are able to destroy regular angels with their bare hands...maybe not archangels although their leviathan goop could probably cause serious damage to an archangel...so regular angels are probably slightly below the power level of a really experienced magic user
could have been as simple as a demon deal. Funny thing is demons are actually the most powerful creatures in the series, but only when they make a deal. But as far as we've seen, there isn't much a demon can't accomplish when it comes to making deals.
I do love the Leprechaun theory but we have no idea if that Leprechaun could actually do what he claimed as we never saw them again (and i really wanted more fairy stuff cause that episode was so outta the box and fun). So we don't know if he actually had the power/skill to pull that off
There was a fairy in the larp episode that Charlie hooks up with. I can't think of any other Fae in the show, though. We do know dwarves exist because we see Mjolnir... which Sam is able to wield, and presumably kept after the auction... but he never uses again. Guess they locked it in the bunker... They also never say explicitly who the little old man that wins Mjolnir in the auction was. I'm assuming it wasn't Thor, because none of the other Aesir seem to have aged like that. So that might have actually been Brokkr or Sindri... Oh... I forgot about the Changlings and Banshees.
I think the exact timing might be off, but we did see Cas in one instance outright have more power than an archangel, when he took Crowleys deal for a "loan" of 50,000 souls to take on Raphael. Again, I can't imagine this happened within a few days or weeks of the "jump", but maybe a month or two? Also the specifics of the situation, even if they could grab Sam, Lucifer was still possessing him, so even if Sam got out, he'd probably drag luci with him, and it's not like luci is gonna let Sam go for any reason, especially if he thinks Sam is gonna get out of the cage, so Luci would have to get separated AND Sam would have to get out. However, we saw Raphael in a second vessel, the woman, the same vessel he ended up dying in, we only saw this vessel AFTER Cas got his 50k souls and confronted Raph, as far as we are aware blowing him away, completely destroying his vessel, to the point where Raph was forced to find another rather than simply resurrecting or rebuilding the first one. Perhaps something similar happened, we know Cas could overpower an archangel at this point, even if he couldn't outright kill them, maybe he also had the juice to hit the cage, popped in, did the same thing to Luci/Sam as he did to Raph, as he had no way to force Luci out, then, since again he had more juice than the archangels, WAS able to rebuild Sams body, but after all of that realized Sam didn't have a soul, since the same thing he used to throw out Luci, also threw out Sam. Then Cas also realized he didn't have the juice to hop back in and grab it, so he took the win he could, as he literally couldn't do anything else at this point
I think the reason why Sam got out just in halfs is that the Cage holds metaphysical beings - Arcangels. Sam's body is pure physical and his soul was probably just trapped by Lucifer. So Castiel could probably just retrieve it just like that and Death should have also been able to retrieve the soul in a moment where Lucifer wasn't busy torturing it. So as simple as it may sound - the cage was only created to keep Archangels in. And apparently this is the only thing it's made to capture so humans, souls, regular angels. It appears that they all can just enter and leave given they get the chance.
Your theories bring up a lot of good points i had forgotten about the series. Though to say which is more likely is tricky at best. However i do share in your theory about the rings, it makes the most since. With that said id love to see you do a video on the Shadow. Id love to more of its lore.
that is another possibility. However, we would have to say that Lucifer was weak once in the cage. Which we know he was not because he brought the three of them inside the cage at one point. This was just bad writing fixed years later with Chuck. MY biggest issue is how the writers forgot about Adam.
5:07 no, the Shadow could storm Heaven when there were a dozen angels left total, and they were barely keeping the lights on. The way they talked about it (Naomi says something along the lines of ‘There are so few of us we can’t even keep it out’), it’s heavily implied that it *really* shouldn’t be able to do that under normal circumstances, but Heaven was so weakened that it could. Hell is different, it’s easier to get into, but it’s designed to be a prison, even for its denizens. I highly doubt the Shadow could breach through all of hell to get to cage and pull someone out, not without spending an exorbitant amount of time and effort physically destroying it, bit by bit, something I’m not sure it could even do. And that’s all setting aside whether or not the demons would try to stop it, during Lilith’s reign they’d probably help, but during Crowley’s he’d order them to try and stop it, and they might be able to; there are billions of them after all, and they’re supposed to have some level of mastery over hell itself, or at least the torturers are.
This is a marvellous theory! The magic of the fay folks was never really explain, but it seemed a lot different than what Bobby used, or what Demons and Angels used. HC accepted!
By righteous man i always assumed it meant someone who went to hell who shouldnt of. If John or Dean didnt sell there souls to save someone they loved they probably wouldnt of gone to hell. Since unlike others who sold their souls they did it for selfless reasons. Probably why those 2 were targetted to get to break the first seal. I dont think azazel killed john cause he could. He showed he couldve killed him at almost anytime and managed to possess him. Pretty sure he just did it 1 to get the colt and 2 to get him to sell his soul. Same thing with sam loosing. Azazel wanted sam to win and influenced many things along the way. Sam died and dean sold his sould. Always figured azazel planned both of these events that way a righteous man would fall to hell and the first seal can be broken Assuming he let sam lose because John wouldn't budge. Dean sells his soul, azazel gets sam, first seal gets broken.
I just rewatched the series and I was left with the impression that when God brought Cas back post-being exploded, he had some extra God juice and went for it. Then he failed and lost the extra juice and that’s what set him on the path for season 6 to get into purgatory and use the soul power to become new God.
When I saw it, I thought that Sam's soul was captured by Lucifer and kept in the cage. After all, the two were one then and since Michael also existed there together with his host body and left it with him. And whatever method our favorite balloon-jacketed angel used to open the cage wasn't perfect because it didn't have to be and maybe couldn't be. Because if it had been perfect then Lucifer would have been freed along with Sam. Thus, he could only open it so that a small thing like a weak, insignificant, mortal man could fit through it, while an ancient and powerful archangel obstructed its bars. After all, a small mouse can easily escape from cages made for strong wild animals. Only when Lucifer hit the bars did he grab Sam's soul. Maybe Sam's soul only started to hurt after it was left to itself. That was just my idea though.
Actually its probably pretty easy. As Crowley hates owing favors and most likely worked with Cass to free Sam. The trick was most likely a mix of a few different things. First Cass and Crowley worked together most likely using a deal, as deals in this universe defy physics and rules. Finally was chuck..... because Chuck wanted the story to keep going no matter what and he had to interfere constantly. So he most likely just let it happen.
The ring theory and even the leprechaun theory are good ones but I think it may have been a combined power situation. Which would explain why both Crowley and Cas took credit for pulling Sam out. Especially when you consider that when Lucifer pulled Sam and Cas into the cage he used Cas to get out. Lucifer pulled both Cas and Sam into the cage yet no one else present. He seemed to be trying to convince Sam to say yes to him but Lucifer had previously inhabited Sam in the cage but couldn't get out. So I think that was just manipulation which is why he turned his efforts to beating Cas instead of focusing completely on Sam as a means of escape. Lucifer needed the combined power of Cas to escape just like Cas needed the combined power of Crowley to get Sam out. I do agree that Cas left Sam's soul on purpose because of the damage done to it. Crowley admitted he couldn't get Sam's soul out and later he alone couldn't access the cage because he needed Rowena to do it.
He might’ve just put on Deaths ring which gave him the ability to go to Lucifer cage or perhaps he simply resurrected Sam with Deaths ring but was unaware that his soul wouldn’t be with him.
I am fairly positive it was stated that Death took Sam out of the cage, and later Dean convinced Death to pull Sam's soul out too. and that Death had put up a wall in Sam's mind to block out the memories of the torture Lucifer did to Sam while in the cage.
Maybe Lucifer tried to possess Sam while in the cage, thinking he could piggyback a ride out once someone comes down and rescues him, but the cage kept Lucifer trapped, and Lucifer kept Sams soul trapped in the process as Cass went to pull him out. Leaving Sam's soul to be tortured and burned by a very pissed off Lucifer.
I definitely think that rings theory make most of sence and leprechaun theory is funniest, when I was watching your video, I thought, that Castiel is different from all rules of hell in fact, he is angel. He's has wings and it was before fall, but after God upgraded him. So maybe, he could physically fly to cage, where no demon could go and try get Sam through bars (with theirs healing and resurrecting abilities, there's no much concern about damaging body during process), but because cage was to hold Archangel(s), Lucifer couldn't go through it same way. Maybe because soul is similarly spiritual cage didn't let it through or, and I think this is more likely, because Lucifer was holding it and didn't let Sam leave(because Cass didn't know about Sam missing soul, if I remember right), soul stayed there.
I'm pretty certain that Crowley was not actually lying and that it was during the collaboration of Crowley and Castiel that they both got Sam's body out
I mean Cass just could have called Doomguy/Doomslayer and be like. "Sup bro, need some help getting to the deepest reaches of hell, gotta rescue a human trapped in the cage with Lucifer" Doomguy just silent for a moment. Next thing you know Sams body just gets flung out of a portal. Cass "Thank you".
He worked with Crowley, after Crowley became the head honcho of hell, and maybe from there he managed to get to the cage to free Sam, but knowing Sam will never approve it, Cas and Crowley managed to purposely separate the vessel from the soul, Cas knowing without a soul Sam will be driving on hunter instincts. Thus leading him and Samuel, another step in the plan, to have them capture alphas to get into Purgatory
The kind of explained this in the episode where Cass tells his story. Crowley gave him a small loan of souls from hell to start the war with Raphael and after that he used that power to pull Sam out of the pit.
Getting a human soul out from hell (dean, S4) took many angels fighting through the forces of hell, but it was possible. The fact that many angels died in the process makes it seem that it was less of a stealth mission and more of a full assault, so if Cass was working with the leader of hell then I expect the forces of hell wouldn't put up any resistance. Without any resistance, it might be quite trivial for an angel to travel through hell to find the cage, in a way that the demons simply weren't able to. And once castiel got to the cage, it seems logical that extracting a human body would be possible in a different way to extracting a human soul (or angel essence, or grace, or demon), because the cage was built to: 1) keep an archangel imprisoned inside 2) keep the demons from getting near or gaining access to it But wasn't built for keeping a fleshy body imprisoned. And with the weird metaphysical rules that hell follows, perhaps a body leaving is easier than a soul leaving. We don't know how exactly the angel-possessing-a-vessel system works (apart from consent being needed), but perhaps the angel forms a bond with the soul as a way of inhabiting the body. This would mean that another reason Sam's soul was harder to extract from the cage is because lucifer was still holding onto it/bonded with it. Neither a seraphim, nor a demon, nor a human would be able to overpower the grip of an archangel, but Death clearly beats Lucifer on the power hierarchy so he could forcibly seperate the two, AND extract the seperated soul from the cage while leaving the angel behind
Just spitballing here, but my immediate theory is that he DIDN'T pull sam from the cage... he remade him. Hence the reason he didn't have a soul. Angels may be able to remake a body (they certainly heal them enough, and Cas healed Sam more than most...) but the soul was a LOT trickier to replicate.
Cas didn't know Sam came back without a soul, I don't think he was faking it even though he was already lying to them about the search for Alphas and Purgatory. He had help from Crowley, not sure to what extent. Lucifer's torture probly played a part in Sam's soul not escaping with him
Firstly, it's likely some of the seals can't be restored. Lillith for instance. Now for 1. Probably doesn't need to be Dean. There are probably good men in hell, but it depends how you define righteous. It was also said that he resisted for 1000 years, wich may itself be a measure of righteousness. 2. I like the rings a bit. It's always clear from almost the beginning that Cas is a bit of an oddball for an angel. Perhaps even possessing an imagination. It's also pretty clear he's not quite sure how humans work. It's possible he meant to save all of Sam, But it's also possible he thought his corporeal self would be good enough. This is difficult to believe on some levels, however remember most angels flat out didn't Care how humans worked. I can sort of see him just pulling him through the bars, healing him ip and calling it a day. Especially if he literally Couldn't do better. Remember Cas could still be Damn cold blooded at that point.
While the Leprechaun idea is really funny and I think is honestly the most likely out of these, I have a theory myself. What if Cas resurrected Sam by rebuilding his body, without ever going into the actual Cage? We know the Cage is crazy difficult to open and has some really dangerous beings inside who have beef with Cas and might want to murder him if given an opportunity. We also know angels are able to resurrect people whose bodies have been completely destroyed. Sam and Dean burn Adam's body at the end of the episode where he's introduced, but a year later the angels are able to put him back on Earth when they need him. The main difference between the two scenarios is of course that the angels had access to Adam's soul and Cas didn't have Sam's soul. My idea is that Cas "braved hell", as he puts it, in an attempt to recover Sam's body, hoping that perhaps the Cage is only capable of holding spirits not flesh and Sam's body was discarded somewhere along the way as he fell in. We know this didn't happen as Adam and Michael were able to continue sharing Adam's body in there, but Cas also had other ways of obtaining at least a part of Sam. Namely time travel. Perhaps he quickly snuck into the past, grabbed a few strands of hair from Sam, and used that to help him reconstruct Sam's full physical body. And maybe he remained ignorant of Sam's lack of a soul because he was overjoyed in his success and didn't want to look deeper. Perhaps deep inside he suspected Sam's soul might still be in the Cage but didn't actually check prior to season 6 episode 7 because he didn't want to be disappointed. But I really like the Leprechaun explanation too. What would be even funnier is if God created the fairies specifically to be a backup plan or contingency tool he could turn to if he needed to mess with angels but didn't want to implicate himself or for some other reason didn't want to do it personally.
I always thought he used a fae to get in. The leprechauns don't seem to find it to be either a challenge or dangerous. I am guessing the price is high though.
This raises another question for me. If you can do that with someone in hell. Then why not heaven? What if you rescued someone's mind from heaven but not their soul? They would come back soulless and probably do alot of bad/evil things. Since they're already granted permission to heaven, how would that effect their judgement? Or would they not be judged because of no soul? When they get their soul back to their living body and feel remorse would it count against them then?
In both hell and heaven, only the soul enters and nothing else ... the cage was a special case, sam's and adam's bodies were kept from rotting due to lucifer's and michael's powers ...
So the killing of Lilith thing I don’t think it needs anything special only that it happens after the other 65 are broken so it could have been an angel or Dean with a knife or any of the dozens of ways you can kill demons in the show as long as she dosnt go early. The reason the demons and angels want Sam to do it is symmetry and Sam been Lucy’s perfect vessel (even though the Angels aren’t meant to know that) if he is there when Lucy gets out it makes it easier.
Nah, the cage was sealed the moment Sam fell into it. My personal headcanon is that Sam's body was able to come out because the magic of the cage was not able to contain a physical body. Angels don't have one. However, it did contain his soul as it's not made of physical matter and is made of similar energy angels are. That's why Cas was unable to get it.
The writers have been messing up for a while. My biggest YIAKS moment has been how the brothers forgot about Adam. That is not like Sam and Dean. Even if Dean was told by Death that only his brother's soul could get retrieved but not Adam. Dean is not the type to forget and let go, he is stubborn as hell especially with family. Then the writers just decided to make Chuck a capricious God who writes lives for his entertainment. Now, that was brilliant. It erased all their messed up writing.
I have just got to season 6 episode 7 (3rd watch through) and definitely going for the rainbow break out dance theory, though cas has to spend a while learnibg the dance moves too
But maybe Angels have the ability to get there if they want to as one of their abilities. But humans were never going to get an angel to do that. The seals were probably meant for the humans and demons. As for the cage, the cage wasn't torture itself, it was Lucifer and Michael that did that to Sam's soul. Michael's vessel and the soul within remained unharmed.
@5:40. You said "The byoook of the damned" on purpose, didnt you? Well, you have my respect for forcing me in engaging your presence to the youtube algorithm gods.
Castiel was doing a lot of lying by then so I doubt he actually "braved the depths of hell" but rather convinced a mortal of his divinity and got them to make a deal with Crowley. They were working together at that point and it makes way more sense. Do you not consider the possible continuity of it all?
Can you do a vid on the pagan gods? Ive always been confused when it comes to virtually anything about them, where they come from or why they exist. Especially when you have bizarre lines from lucifer like when he told mercury "no wonder your kind forfeited this planet to us." In the episode hammer of the gods. Like......what?????? I thought angels and archangels have been there since the beginning.....confused. it also doesn't help that they get obliterated by lucifer using zero effort so we cant say that they are separate primordial entities like Chuck and Amara.
I would say prior to the seals getting there without being on gods lvl or close like death but before that ritual is done getting there at all for anyone is nearly impossible however once that is done anyone can get to lucifers cage it’s cracking it open that is the problem as it’s protected by the seals god himself put on it hence why death was able to get there and quite easily too, and why castiel was able to get there and he was powerful enough to crack it if even slightly and get sams body out , its implied that its very much possible when the archangel raphael says they will get lucifer and michael out and get their apocalypse going again, and raphael at that point is definitely stronger than cas so he should be able to do more than cas, and with the right ritual why rowena was able to affect it after it was cracked by amara getting out if her own seal
Now, hear me out, Castiel was working with Crowley at this point. So, he would have access to the crossroad demon secrets and spells to get desired objects. If we go by this train of logic, Cas and Crowely WOULD be able to get Sam's body out, but his soul would end up being the default price for the spell, and thus it would stay in the cage. We could chalk up him claiming to "brave Hell" as him being poetic. P.S. Fairies in real world lore can't speak an outright falsehood, at the point the fairy episode came out the show was sticking pretty close the the actual lore. So I do believe the leprechaun could've gotten Sam's soul out, he could've also omitted a crucial fact about the process (a lie of omission is not an outright falsehood) and thus it would've screwed them over.
At the time Cas got Sam’s body out, he wasn’t working with Crowley, because this was the same day Sam went into the cage, so at most, it would have been about 12 real world hours before Sam got out, while it was at least a few days before Crowley made his offer and Cas got beat by Rafael, so no, it had absolutely nothing to do with his deal with Crowley
dang i forgot about the Fairy magic in this show makes me sad we didn't get any real storylines from then could have been so many different story's cand cool villains instead of the same old angel demon loop we get even the magic that the men of letters had was wasted
For all the work Castiel did for heaven and humanity I always thought Jack, the new God should have promoted Castiel to archangel. After all with the death of Michael, Raphael and Lucifer there were certainly openings for archangels.
I think it's the same deal that Dean had in Purgatory. There was a way out for him because humans are not meant to be there, the cage was met to hold angels not humans
As far as I'm concerned, the Leprechaun Rainbow Rescue is now cannon.
Can’t stop thinking about the Leprechaun jig now 😆
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Oh the leprechaun that told Sam he could rescue his soul
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Im team leprechaun rainbow rescue
I always thought the "Not my god" comment by the leprechaun was very interesting. Implying an entire separate dimension outside of Supernatural creation.
i love how everyone, even the show itself forgot about their half brother who also fell into the pit with sam. then they brought him back eventually after they remembered he existed and needed to close that story arc.
How did they forget death told Dean you have a choice Sam are your other brother . Dean picked Sam
@@leosnyder5264they did forget....there was a special episode where Dean/Jensen said "whose Adam?" And the writers and thus characters never used that arc ever until it became a joke in the Fandom of Adam saying "I am still in hell." The joke was even used in the Hillywood Ghostbusters song, I believe.
At least he had Michael looking out for him. Probably better off than Sam was, being the devils chew toy.
I heard someone say that they initially intended to have Adam/Michael leave the box during the darkness story arc, but negotiations with Adam's actor's agent didn't go well.
im pretty sure its said that the half brothers soul is in heaven so it doesn't matter much just meat suit.
I really like the rings explanation, but the fact that its totally plausible in lore for a leprechaun to have done it too is amazing lmao
The rings open a backdoor to the cage. The main entrance has only ever opened once
There is another possibility as to why Cass could pull Sam's BODY out of the cage, but not his soul. The cage is in Hell. Heaven and Hell are places of the soul, NOT the body. Thus, the cage, meant to contain Lucifer, who does not have a physical body, would not be made to contain Sam's body, but it would be made to contain his soul. So Cass could have pulled out his body with ease for that reason, but could not pull out his soul.
And that is a real possibility considering cass was pretty powerful at this point and could go into hell getting the body out is easy but the soul is a totally different story and really the only being that was able to get his soul out of the cage was death
I like this theory, just like it happened inside purgatory when dean was there
In supernatural heaven and Hell are not just places of the soul. Sam and dean have entered Hell plenty of times with their physical bodies. As far as heaven goes most people can’t but angels with vessels take their vessels with them. Heaven and Hell are more like soul storage facilities in SPN
Edit: also the cage is entirely different. They may say it’s in Hell but it could be in its own pocket universe and the only way to get to it is through Hell
@@laverniustucker5061 nobody's body entered heaven as far as i remember ... as for hell, sam,dean, rowena entered hell alive for a brief period of time and rowena as she was dying ...
@@laverniustucker5061 they may have entered physically, but that doesn't change the fact that they are places of the soul, not body. Earth is a place of the body yet they use people's souls there on the show. It's more on how the laws of the area apply to the other aspect rather than the other aspect being/not being allowed there.
Without watching this video, I would have forgotten that Castiel was the only angel to ever encounter the four primordial entities. I have no objection to character ability to get in and out of cage. But what's curious is that before Lucifer was released, none of the demons knew the location of the cage. But after lucifer free, it seemed that many demons knew the location of the cage. Crowley was able to order his subordinates to study the Enochian script on the cage so that he could use it to control Lucifer's vessel.
However, I hope to see videos about fairies and pagan gods in the future. They seem quite powerful but are often less talked about.
The cage was located in the deepest place of hell. Demons knew where it was all along but weren't able to come in contact with Lucifer. I bet many demons didn't even want to meet Lucifer.
Azalea was the only demon who spoke with Lucifer.
Sam once wielded Mojlnir... and then it was never mentioned again. I assume he took it with them when they left the auction...
If that was me, I would be taking that thing everywhere...
@@radagast7200actually, Mjolnir is shown one more time; in the psychotic fairy housekeeper episode in the last season, during the ‘East hunt/holiday’ montage, in one snippet, for like three seconds, he is shown holding it. It is not mentioned or referenced ever again outside of this.
I think the leprechaun breaking in and out of the cell we be even funnier if it was MADD Sweeney from American gods. I can see him walking they'd ask how'd you get here? He tells them I'm a leprechaun they'd say no, you're not your tall. Then i could see them going bach and forth. Then, MADD Sweeney would try to fight them, forgetting what he was there for. Or he teaches Castille how to do it but demands he fights him first
Part of it could also be that the 666 seals helped obscure or hide the cage and as they broke seals the magic hiding the cage wore down. Then after season 5 the cage was much easier to get to as the seals were never put back into place.
My theory was always that Cas, being an Angel of the lord, knew where Lucifer’s cage was maybe do to it being hardwired in their brains like prophet names and words of god.
And the reason Cas was able to take Sam’s meat suit out but not his soul, is because Lucifer was still technically attached to Sam’s soul, and since Sam is human and not Angel his body could leave the cage without any seal having to be broken.
Cas was strong, but still not strong enough to grip Sam’s soul away from Lucifer’s grasp.
Do you think Lucifer moved out of Sam's body as soon as he was in the cage again?
Why not settle things with Michael once and for all, since both had vessels?
I mean nobody was supposed to engage in their battle anyway and one of them had to live with the fact to have killed their brother.
What did Raphael hope to accomplish by setting Michael and Lucifer free again?
@@Atticus-Catnipp I think that they were trapped in their vessels but powerless due to the magic of the cage. As for why Michael and Lucifer didn’t fight while in the cage, they could’ve either been powerless but still immortal so fighting would lead to nothing. Or perhaps Michael was so broken by the fact that his father let him be locked away and never released him that he saw no point in fighting Lucifer, and Lucifer probably saw it has a form of torture to not kill Michael after being defeated.
@@mikesmoviemadness24 it was stated that both Michael and Lucifer tortured Sam's soul.
That is due to their hatred towards Sam who put them in this situation. So they were anything but powerless just pissed off.
What would have happened if Cass did what Raphael told him to do? Free them from the cage and let the apocalypse continue.
Raphael wanted to be the host of heaven. He didn't want to participate in their battle so what was there for him to gain?
@@Atticus-Catnipp I don’t think Michael actually did any torturing. It was all basically Lucifer, which begs the question why wasn’t Sam turned into a demon? A demon is a human soul twisted and corrupted from the torture of Hell. Was Sam’s year in Hell equivalent to 100 years or even longer?
And as for why they didn’t kill each other in the cage, I think the battle was meant to ravage earth and actually kill millions of people because that’s what they were hoping would bring God back, not necessarily them fighting. And in the cage what would be the point of even fighting. Also they had to be powerless or at the very least powered down a little, because if those two had full powers that cage wouldn’t have stood a chance.
As for Raphael, I don’t think he ever had any intention of trying to release Michael and Lucifer. That was just something he said to appease the Michael Loyalists still in Heaven. After all he did end up making the deal with Crowley for half the souls of Purgatory because that would give him definitive control over heaven and he could leave Michael and Lucifer where they were with no pushback.
From the way the Leprechaun talks when Sam say how can a leprechaun do what Angels can not. The way he goes Pfft angels sounds like the angels and leprechauns and Angels met before. Maybe that’s why they have to use tricks and only a few show up and not Thousands. They are probably keeping a low profile and not trying to get notice. Maybe they fought that would be a cool idea
I'm officially adding the Angel Leprechaun war to my headcanon now. Damn those Leprechauns got hands.
I think the Fae were sort of in the same branch as the other pagan dieties. Presumably the greek and norse gods also had Olympus/Asgard deminsions, although we never see them. We also see a fairy in the LARP episode, but she is not nearly as nefarious as the other Fae they encounter.
I really don't like how Lucifer was treated near the end of the series. He kinda already had his purpose in the story served. It was total hype to see him in season 11 again but that's where it ends.
His once menacing demeanor was ridiculous throughout season 12 all the way to the end.
Honestly I hoped that Lucifer would just get tired of everything and return to the cage himself. The only place he really belonged. There was nothing for him out there in the world. Humans, demons and angels were all tired of him.
Should've moved to Los Angeles und solve crimes after season 11.
Nah, I just see it as Lucifer changing once he spent time with Humanity/Sam.
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Castile is just the go to guy for hell rescuing. He saved Dean and then Sam.
The true answer: chuck thought it’d be interesting, so it happened
Fr it’s kinda boring but chuck is literally the writer, it happened because he wanted it to happen. The same way Castile magically healed after getting exploded, Chuck just thought it’d be more interesting if he came back
The ring theory actually explains literally everything, it explains how Cass could access the cage and why Sam was split into two halves after returning from Hell
It also explains why Cass never used it again after losing one of the rings to Death
And the soul is too complicated to get out anyway
@@matthiascerebri3315 Exactly, the soul would be vastly to complex in breaching the cage just to steal it away from both the Archangels
My way of thinking was always that god put some sort of way for none angels to leave the cage, the cage was always meant to keep Lucifer and only Lucifer inside, much in the same way that purgatory was suppose to keep monsters but most specifically the leviathan inside, so just like how god implimented a way to get humens out of purgatory, i suspect he had a way to get humens back, cas probably is the one who knew about this way and used it to bring sam back, so even tho its very headcannony cause we didnt see or hear about any of it. i think its consistant with the way god built the world in the supernatural verse
Well I always took it that the Cage we saw was what a human can perceive. The Cage's true form is more mystical like an angels true form. So I always thought Castiel managed to pull a part of Sam out but couldn't truly get into it all the way for all of Sam.
(I know that this video is a month old) I recently watched season 6 again, and in the BIG episode when castiel monologs, he has a conversation with Crowley where Crowley offers castiel a deal of, I think, 50,000 souls from hell to aid castiel in the civil war in heaven. I think it's implied that castiel was juicing with the souls because right after that, he talks about making his first impression on heaven and then followed up by saying he was able to bring sam back from the cage. Now, this doesn't explain how castiel knew where the cage was, but a couple possible explanations were that Crowley tipped castiel off, being the king of hell and all, or castiel went back to the cemetery where the gate was opened and just kinda fished him out, that also would explain why when sam woke up he was at the cemetery.
I think Leprechauns could probably jailbreak the cage, and they could probably also take on an angel- though probably not an archangel.
We've seen magic put the whammy on some pretty heavy hitters. Leviathans and angels have both been seen to get hurt by witchcraft. Cas almost died because of Rowena's attack dog spell.
I wager leprechauns probably know some fancy tricks. They probably taught witches some of it.
Leviathans are able to destroy regular angels with their bare hands...maybe not archangels although their leviathan goop could probably cause serious damage to an archangel...so regular angels are probably slightly below the power level of a really experienced magic user
could have been as simple as a demon deal. Funny thing is demons are actually the most powerful creatures in the series, but only when they make a deal. But as far as we've seen, there isn't much a demon can't accomplish when it comes to making deals.
I do love the Leprechaun theory but we have no idea if that Leprechaun could actually do what he claimed as we never saw them again (and i really wanted more fairy stuff cause that episode was so outta the box and fun). So we don't know if he actually had the power/skill to pull that off
For every entity appear to have their own rules. If salt and sugar can really distract someone as powerful as a leprechaun than anything's possible
There was a fairy in the larp episode that Charlie hooks up with. I can't think of any other Fae in the show, though.
We do know dwarves exist because we see Mjolnir... which Sam is able to wield, and presumably kept after the auction... but he never uses again. Guess they locked it in the bunker...
They also never say explicitly who the little old man that wins Mjolnir in the auction was. I'm assuming it wasn't Thor, because none of the other Aesir seem to have aged like that. So that might have actually been Brokkr or Sindri...
Oh... I forgot about the Changlings and Banshees.
I would love to see u making sense of Shedims, making theory and basically ur stuff, even thoe we only know thing or 2 about em
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you know when Jack arrived in the void it was pretty creepy when the void smiled
I really love the ring theory. Actually, I really enjoy all of your theories. Thank you for making videos!!!
I think the exact timing might be off, but we did see Cas in one instance outright have more power than an archangel, when he took Crowleys deal for a "loan" of 50,000 souls to take on Raphael. Again, I can't imagine this happened within a few days or weeks of the "jump", but maybe a month or two? Also the specifics of the situation, even if they could grab Sam, Lucifer was still possessing him, so even if Sam got out, he'd probably drag luci with him, and it's not like luci is gonna let Sam go for any reason, especially if he thinks Sam is gonna get out of the cage, so Luci would have to get separated AND Sam would have to get out. However, we saw Raphael in a second vessel, the woman, the same vessel he ended up dying in, we only saw this vessel AFTER Cas got his 50k souls and confronted Raph, as far as we are aware blowing him away, completely destroying his vessel, to the point where Raph was forced to find another rather than simply resurrecting or rebuilding the first one. Perhaps something similar happened, we know Cas could overpower an archangel at this point, even if he couldn't outright kill them, maybe he also had the juice to hit the cage, popped in, did the same thing to Luci/Sam as he did to Raph, as he had no way to force Luci out, then, since again he had more juice than the archangels, WAS able to rebuild Sams body, but after all of that realized Sam didn't have a soul, since the same thing he used to throw out Luci, also threw out Sam. Then Cas also realized he didn't have the juice to hop back in and grab it, so he took the win he could, as he literally couldn't do anything else at this point
I think the reason why Sam got out just in halfs is that the Cage holds metaphysical beings - Arcangels. Sam's body is pure physical and his soul was probably just trapped by Lucifer. So Castiel could probably just retrieve it just like that and Death should have also been able to retrieve the soul in a moment where Lucifer wasn't busy torturing it.
So as simple as it may sound - the cage was only created to keep Archangels in. And apparently this is the only thing it's made to capture so humans, souls, regular angels. It appears that they all can just enter and leave given they get the chance.
There's an actual term for "real world answer vs in-universe answer". It's known as "Doylist vs Watsonian"
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Your theories bring up a lot of good points i had forgotten about the series. Though to say which is more likely is tricky at best. However i do share in your theory about the rings, it makes the most since. With that said id love to see you do a video on the Shadow. Id love to more of its lore.
Leprechaun dances into the cage, twirling his shillelagh, grabs Sam and says: “Go n-eiri an bothar leat!”
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I always assumed castiel and lucifer where pulling on Sam in both diretions and Cas ending up with his body and Lucifer got his soul
that is another possibility. However, we would have to say that Lucifer was weak once in the cage. Which we know he was not because he brought the three of them inside the cage at one point. This was just bad writing fixed years later with Chuck. MY biggest issue is how the writers forgot about Adam.
5:07 no, the Shadow could storm Heaven when there were a dozen angels left total, and they were barely keeping the lights on. The way they talked about it (Naomi says something along the lines of ‘There are so few of us we can’t even keep it out’), it’s heavily implied that it *really* shouldn’t be able to do that under normal circumstances, but Heaven was so weakened that it could. Hell is different, it’s easier to get into, but it’s designed to be a prison, even for its denizens. I highly doubt the Shadow could breach through all of hell to get to cage and pull someone out, not without spending an exorbitant amount of time and effort physically destroying it, bit by bit, something I’m not sure it could even do. And that’s all setting aside whether or not the demons would try to stop it, during Lilith’s reign they’d probably help, but during Crowley’s he’d order them to try and stop it, and they might be able to; there are billions of them after all, and they’re supposed to have some level of mastery over hell itself, or at least the torturers are.
He probably picked the lock.
This is a marvellous theory! The magic of the fay folks was never really explain, but it seemed a lot different than what Bobby used, or what Demons and Angels used. HC accepted!
When Cas was brought back, he was made into a seraphim. With that upgrade to his power, he most likely smuggled Sam from the Cage via the backdoor.
By righteous man i always assumed it meant someone who went to hell who shouldnt of. If John or Dean didnt sell there souls to save someone they loved they probably wouldnt of gone to hell. Since unlike others who sold their souls they did it for selfless reasons. Probably why those 2 were targetted to get to break the first seal. I dont think azazel killed john cause he could. He showed he couldve killed him at almost anytime and managed to possess him. Pretty sure he just did it 1 to get the colt and 2 to get him to sell his soul. Same thing with sam loosing. Azazel wanted sam to win and influenced many things along the way. Sam died and dean sold his sould. Always figured azazel planned both of these events that way a righteous man would fall to hell and the first seal can be broken
Assuming he let sam lose because John wouldn't budge. Dean sells his soul, azazel gets sam, first seal gets broken.
At first the ring theory seemed most likely, but once Leprechaun theory was introduced... That was the one.
I just rewatched the series and I was left with the impression that when God brought Cas back post-being exploded, he had some extra God juice and went for it. Then he failed and lost the extra juice and that’s what set him on the path for season 6 to get into purgatory and use the soul power to become new God.
When I saw it, I thought that Sam's soul was captured by Lucifer and kept in the cage. After all, the two were one then and since Michael also existed there together with his host body and left it with him. And whatever method our favorite balloon-jacketed angel used to open the cage wasn't perfect because it didn't have to be and maybe couldn't be. Because if it had been perfect then Lucifer would have been freed along with Sam. Thus, he could only open it so that a small thing like a weak, insignificant, mortal man could fit through it, while an ancient and powerful archangel obstructed its bars. After all, a small mouse can easily escape from cages made for strong wild animals. Only when Lucifer hit the bars did he grab Sam's soul. Maybe Sam's soul only started to hurt after it was left to itself. That was just my idea though.
Actually its probably pretty easy. As Crowley hates owing favors and most likely worked with Cass to free Sam. The trick was most likely a mix of a few different things. First Cass and Crowley worked together most likely using a deal, as deals in this universe defy physics and rules. Finally was chuck..... because Chuck wanted the story to keep going no matter what and he had to interfere constantly. So he most likely just let it happen.
The ring theory and even the leprechaun theory are good ones but I think it may have been a combined power situation. Which would explain why both Crowley and Cas took credit for pulling Sam out. Especially when you consider that when Lucifer pulled Sam and Cas into the cage he used Cas to get out. Lucifer pulled both Cas and Sam into the cage yet no one else present. He seemed to be trying to convince Sam to say yes to him but Lucifer had previously inhabited Sam in the cage but couldn't get out. So I think that was just manipulation which is why he turned his efforts to beating Cas instead of focusing completely on Sam as a means of escape. Lucifer needed the combined power of Cas to escape just like Cas needed the combined power of Crowley to get Sam out. I do agree that Cas left Sam's soul on purpose because of the damage done to it. Crowley admitted he couldn't get Sam's soul out and later he alone couldn't access the cage because he needed Rowena to do it.
Cass knew the super secret password.
He might’ve just put on Deaths ring which gave him the ability to go to Lucifer cage or perhaps he simply resurrected Sam with Deaths ring but was unaware that his soul wouldn’t be with him.
I am fairly positive it was stated that Death took Sam out of the cage, and later Dean convinced Death to pull Sam's soul out too. and that Death had put up a wall in Sam's mind to block out the memories of the torture Lucifer did to Sam while in the cage.
Maybe Lucifer tried to possess Sam while in the cage, thinking he could piggyback a ride out once someone comes down and rescues him, but the cage kept Lucifer trapped, and Lucifer kept Sams soul trapped in the process as Cass went to pull him out. Leaving Sam's soul to be tortured and burned by a very pissed off Lucifer.
I definitely think that rings theory make most of sence and leprechaun theory is funniest, when I was watching your video, I thought, that Castiel is different from all rules of hell in fact, he is angel. He's has wings and it was before fall, but after God upgraded him. So maybe, he could physically fly to cage, where no demon could go and try get Sam through bars (with theirs healing and resurrecting abilities, there's no much concern about damaging body during process), but because cage was to hold Archangel(s), Lucifer couldn't go through it same way. Maybe because soul is similarly spiritual cage didn't let it through or, and I think this is more likely, because Lucifer was holding it and didn't let Sam leave(because Cass didn't know about Sam missing soul, if I remember right), soul stayed there.
I'm pretty certain that Crowley was not actually lying and that it was during the collaboration of Crowley and Castiel that they both got Sam's body out
I mean Cass just could have called Doomguy/Doomslayer and be like.
"Sup bro, need some help getting to the deepest reaches of hell, gotta rescue a human trapped in the cage with Lucifer"
Doomguy just silent for a moment.
Next thing you know Sams body just gets flung out of a portal.
Cass "Thank you".
Cas made the deal with Crowley to getpowerful enough to rock Raphael's shit. He used the same trickery to break into the cage.
He worked with Crowley, after Crowley became the head honcho of hell, and maybe from there he managed to get to the cage to free Sam, but knowing Sam will never approve it, Cas and Crowley managed to purposely separate the vessel from the soul, Cas knowing without a soul Sam will be driving on hunter instincts. Thus leading him and Samuel, another step in the plan, to have them capture alphas to get into Purgatory
The kind of explained this in the episode where Cass tells his story. Crowley gave him a small loan of souls from hell to start the war with Raphael and after that he used that power to pull Sam out of the pit.
Getting a human soul out from hell (dean, S4) took many angels fighting through the forces of hell, but it was possible. The fact that many angels died in the process makes it seem that it was less of a stealth mission and more of a full assault, so if Cass was working with the leader of hell then I expect the forces of hell wouldn't put up any resistance.
Without any resistance, it might be quite trivial for an angel to travel through hell to find the cage, in a way that the demons simply weren't able to. And once castiel got to the cage, it seems logical that extracting a human body would be possible in a different way to extracting a human soul (or angel essence, or grace, or demon), because the cage was built to:
1) keep an archangel imprisoned inside
2) keep the demons from getting near or gaining access to it
But wasn't built for keeping a fleshy body imprisoned. And with the weird metaphysical rules that hell follows, perhaps a body leaving is easier than a soul leaving.
We don't know how exactly the angel-possessing-a-vessel system works (apart from consent being needed), but perhaps the angel forms a bond with the soul as a way of inhabiting the body. This would mean that another reason Sam's soul was harder to extract from the cage is because lucifer was still holding onto it/bonded with it. Neither a seraphim, nor a demon, nor a human would be able to overpower the grip of an archangel, but Death clearly beats Lucifer on the power hierarchy so he could forcibly seperate the two, AND extract the seperated soul from the cage while leaving the angel behind
I like these types of supernatural theories alot
Just spitballing here, but my immediate theory is that he DIDN'T pull sam from the cage... he remade him. Hence the reason he didn't have a soul. Angels may be able to remake a body (they certainly heal them enough, and Cas healed Sam more than most...) but the soul was a LOT trickier to replicate.
I think Chuck gave Cas some extra power.
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I'm gonna headcanon that Cas had help from a Leprechaun cause it's funnier that way.
Reapers claimed to have access to things others didn't as well. Like purgatory.
Cas didn't know Sam came back without a soul, I don't think he was faking it even though he was already lying to them about the search for Alphas and Purgatory. He had help from Crowley, not sure to what extent. Lucifer's torture probly played a part in Sam's soul not escaping with him
Chuck wrote it in and Castiel just wandered in and pointed him
Firstly, it's likely some of the seals can't be restored. Lillith for instance.
Now for 1. Probably doesn't need to be Dean. There are probably good men in hell, but it depends how you define righteous. It was also said that he resisted for 1000 years, wich may itself be a measure of righteousness.
2. I like the rings a bit. It's always clear from almost the beginning that Cas is a bit of an oddball for an angel. Perhaps even possessing an imagination. It's also pretty clear he's not quite sure how humans work. It's possible he meant to save all of Sam, But it's also possible he thought his corporeal self would be good enough. This is difficult to believe on some levels, however remember most angels flat out didn't Care how humans worked. I can sort of see him just pulling him through the bars, healing him ip and calling it a day. Especially if he literally Couldn't do better. Remember Cas could still be Damn cold blooded at that point.
While the Leprechaun idea is really funny and I think is honestly the most likely out of these, I have a theory myself. What if Cas resurrected Sam by rebuilding his body, without ever going into the actual Cage? We know the Cage is crazy difficult to open and has some really dangerous beings inside who have beef with Cas and might want to murder him if given an opportunity. We also know angels are able to resurrect people whose bodies have been completely destroyed. Sam and Dean burn Adam's body at the end of the episode where he's introduced, but a year later the angels are able to put him back on Earth when they need him. The main difference between the two scenarios is of course that the angels had access to Adam's soul and Cas didn't have Sam's soul.
My idea is that Cas "braved hell", as he puts it, in an attempt to recover Sam's body, hoping that perhaps the Cage is only capable of holding spirits not flesh and Sam's body was discarded somewhere along the way as he fell in. We know this didn't happen as Adam and Michael were able to continue sharing Adam's body in there, but Cas also had other ways of obtaining at least a part of Sam. Namely time travel. Perhaps he quickly snuck into the past, grabbed a few strands of hair from Sam, and used that to help him reconstruct Sam's full physical body. And maybe he remained ignorant of Sam's lack of a soul because he was overjoyed in his success and didn't want to look deeper. Perhaps deep inside he suspected Sam's soul might still be in the Cage but didn't actually check prior to season 6 episode 7 because he didn't want to be disappointed.
But I really like the Leprechaun explanation too. What would be even funnier is if God created the fairies specifically to be a backup plan or contingency tool he could turn to if he needed to mess with angels but didn't want to implicate himself or for some other reason didn't want to do it personally.
I always thought he used a fae to get in. The leprechauns don't seem to find it to be either a challenge or dangerous. I am guessing the price is high though.
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This raises another question for me. If you can do that with someone in hell. Then why not heaven? What if you rescued someone's mind from heaven but not their soul? They would come back soulless and probably do alot of bad/evil things. Since they're already granted permission to heaven, how would that effect their judgement? Or would they not be judged because of no soul? When they get their soul back to their living body and feel remorse would it count against them then?
In both hell and heaven, only the soul enters and nothing else ... the cage was a special case, sam's and adam's bodies were kept from rotting due to lucifer's and michael's powers ...
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Crowley may have helped, he definitely gave Cass a bunch of souls to power him up.
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Sams soul could have been slightly corupted so he could of gotten confused and ejected sams soul from his body
So the killing of Lilith thing I don’t think it needs anything special only that it happens after the other 65 are broken so it could have been an angel or Dean with a knife or any of the dozens of ways you can kill demons in the show as long as she dosnt go early.
The reason the demons and angels want Sam to do it is symmetry and Sam been Lucy’s perfect vessel (even though the Angels aren’t meant to know that) if he is there when Lucy gets out it makes it easier.
I thought it was that once the seals were broken, the cage was damaged. More susceptible to bypass or manipulate
I swore they said that he used the souls to power himself up to be able to get in there..
My headcanon was always that Castile managed to get into the cage before it was sealed completely.
Nah, the cage was sealed the moment Sam fell into it. My personal headcanon is that Sam's body was able to come out because the magic of the cage was not able to contain a physical body. Angels don't have one. However, it did contain his soul as it's not made of physical matter and is made of similar energy angels are. That's why Cas was unable to get it.
The writers have been messing up for a while. My biggest YIAKS moment has been how the brothers forgot about Adam. That is not like Sam and Dean. Even if Dean was told by Death that only his brother's soul could get retrieved but not Adam. Dean is not the type to forget and let go, he is stubborn as hell especially with family. Then the writers just decided to make Chuck a capricious God who writes lives for his entertainment. Now, that was brilliant. It erased all their messed up writing.
I have just got to season 6 episode 7 (3rd watch through) and definitely going for the rainbow break out dance theory, though cas has to spend a while learnibg the dance moves too
But maybe Angels have the ability to get there if they want to as one of their abilities. But humans were never going to get an angel to do that. The seals were probably meant for the humans and demons.
As for the cage, the cage wasn't torture itself, it was Lucifer and Michael that did that to Sam's soul. Michael's vessel and the soul within remained unharmed.
alway's figured chuck helped because of the story since chuck alway's watched and was giving a nudge to keep the story going
@5:40. You said "The byoook of the damned" on purpose, didnt you? Well, you have my respect for forcing me in engaging your presence to the youtube algorithm gods.
Castiel was doing a lot of lying by then so I doubt he actually "braved the depths of hell" but rather convinced a mortal of his divinity and got them to make a deal with Crowley. They were working together at that point and it makes way more sense. Do you not consider the possible continuity of it all?
must have had other angels to help pull sam out of hell
Maybe Sam's body was spit out once his soul entered the cage. Since Hell is an abstract realm, and people's physical bodies dont go there.
Castial said that he didn't bring the soul because it was damaged and would of been to much.
He did it because Chuck ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN
Can you do a vid on the pagan gods? Ive always been confused when it comes to virtually anything about them, where they come from or why they exist. Especially when you have bizarre lines from lucifer like when he told mercury "no wonder your kind forfeited this planet to us." In the episode hammer of the gods. Like......what?????? I thought angels and archangels have been there since the beginning.....confused. it also doesn't help that they get obliterated by lucifer using zero effort so we cant say that they are separate primordial entities like Chuck and Amara.
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All we know is Castiel was brought back as the strongest angel in heaven under the archangels
You're overthinking it. Castiel could've just snatched the body before it fell into the cage.
I just think GOD piloted Cass to do it, and think it was a special 1 time spell he prepped.
I would say prior to the seals getting there without being on gods lvl or close like death but before that ritual is done getting there at all for anyone is nearly impossible however once that is done anyone can get to lucifers cage it’s cracking it open that is the problem as it’s protected by the seals god himself put on it hence why death was able to get there and quite easily too, and why castiel was able to get there and he was powerful enough to crack it if even slightly and get sams body out , its implied that its very much possible when the archangel raphael says they will get lucifer and michael out and get their apocalypse going again, and raphael at that point is definitely stronger than cas so he should be able to do more than cas, and with the right ritual why rowena was able to affect it after it was cracked by amara getting out if her own seal
Now, hear me out, Castiel was working with Crowley at this point. So, he would have access to the crossroad demon secrets and spells to get desired objects. If we go by this train of logic, Cas and Crowely WOULD be able to get Sam's body out, but his soul would end up being the default price for the spell, and thus it would stay in the cage. We could chalk up him claiming to "brave Hell" as him being poetic.
P.S. Fairies in real world lore can't speak an outright falsehood, at the point the fairy episode came out the show was sticking pretty close the the actual lore. So I do believe the leprechaun could've gotten Sam's soul out, he could've also omitted a crucial fact about the process (a lie of omission is not an outright falsehood) and thus it would've screwed them over.
At the time Cas got Sam’s body out, he wasn’t working with Crowley, because this was the same day Sam went into the cage, so at most, it would have been about 12 real world hours before Sam got out, while it was at least a few days before Crowley made his offer and Cas got beat by Rafael, so no, it had absolutely nothing to do with his deal with Crowley
dang i forgot about the Fairy magic in this show makes me sad we didn't get any real storylines from then could have been so many different story's cand cool villains instead of the same old angel demon loop we get even the magic that the men of letters had was wasted
For all the work Castiel did for heaven and humanity I always thought Jack, the new God should have promoted Castiel to archangel. After all with the death of Michael, Raphael and Lucifer there were certainly openings for archangels.
probably more than archangel without even having a title, after all Castiel now seats at the right hand of Jack :)
That wasn’t a leprechaun. He was the fairy king Oberon
These really need to be weekly uploads and not monthly I can't get enough!!! 😅
I thought Crowley loaned Castiel souls to go to heaven and make a "show of power" but maybe cas also used this power to free sam from the cage
No that was after he pulled Sam’s body out of the cage
Maybe it's a far stretch, but what if Castiel used a hand of God? Maybe that could work too... after all God was able to walk in and out.
Lore explanation Chuck wrote it, thus it happened.
He couldn't get sam's soul because sam's soul was lucifer's hostage inside sam's body ,if that makes sense ...
Do a whole video on castiel
Maybe to because cas did know that his soul was damage to