Hey BEAT family! Today I decided to switch it up a bit. I want to help equip you to have answers ready for what skeptics may challenge you with. Here is a great set of answers from Dr. Frank Turek on the existence of God and creation.
@@kennethray3653Ha ha ha, we have months named after mythical figures too, does that mean they existed? Most people will accept there might have been a man called jesus, but there's absolutely no evidence of divinity, resurrection or miracles.
My belief in God didn't start with the Bible or anyone trying to convince me through apologetics. It started because I asked Him with a sincere and open heart to reveal Himself to me if He was there. Before anything else can work, one needs to open their heart and be genuinely willing to seek the truth. And once one finds it, everything will change and the Bible will become one's guide after that.
I know God's real. I have had experiences with Him. I've heard His audible voice. If someone hasn't experienced this for themselves, it is not my fault. Someone who doubts God exists has a demon of doubt and you usually can't reason with it, it needs to be cast out. Usually if a person has the demon of doubt they have other demons too.
I think as believers we've all gone through something similar with God revealing Himself to us. A stubborn, rebellious atheist is not going to be willing to humble himself and ask that question. That's why this conversation will never end with them. Many others aren't going to ask God just for the sake of being able to keep their arguments going. And if they did have a spiritual experience with God, I still highly doubt that they would share their experience also.
Here is some truth. Stop watching this lying pastor. Instead, study your KJV bible and follow that instead. It will not tell you the same things this man here tells you but it will tell you the truth. If you sincerely seek the truth, you will pray about what I've said and seek God in his Word.
@@kathyk5589 Allan parr is a lying pastor? I strongly disagree. And KJV is not the only acceptable version. Your allowed to your opinion, but if you don’t like him, get off his page!!
Im a walking testimony of Gods creation. If you would’ve known me then and now you would see how REAL and amazing our GOD is! Enough said! Love you church fam!!
@FallenAngel That’s not special pleading. Please stop misusing fallacies. Special pleading is making an exception to a general rule without justification. Everything that begins to exist has a cause. God didn’t begin to exist. Therefore God doesn’t have a cause. It’s logic 101.
@@jjjjjj3423 What did I do to convince myself exactly. It is logic 101, my conclusion followed from the previous premises. And what did I do that was special pleading? Special pleading applies to the same circumstances. Wonder why you deleted your previous comment. And I’m not sure what you were trying to say after the ellipses. What does moving the goalposts have to do with anything. Please rephrase your response to make it clear.
@@acemxe8472 radioactive decay happens at random intervals and has no cause, quantum events don't require causes. sorry you're ignorant of science apparently. frank is just making crap up, did you not notice?
My friend, we don't need Bible quote and references , it defeats the whole point. The skeptics need to Believe in God first. Planet excited millions of years before the Bible, yet there were believers
Jesus, your standards are incredibly low. Being alive doesn't prove anything other than I am alive. It does not explain how, it does not explain why. It certainly doesn't mean that its because of Christianity.
I asked Jesus to reveal himself to me while crying in bed because I was in a domestic violence situation. I had a vision where I saw Christ. I saw his feet,his robe, The Father and Holy Spirit connected to him in wrath. I saw the devil. And I saw an angel. Since becoming a Christian atheist have poked at my belief. but I believe with all my soul. No ounce of doubt. I’ve seen so much within a short time of coming to Christ. I can go on about what I’ve seen. I gave my life to him in April after he sent an angel. I’m so grateful God revealed himself because I don’t think I would have believed without seeing and experienced what I’ve experienced. He saved my soul.
The only reason you asked for Jesus is because that’s what you’ve Been brainwashed to do. Your brainwashing made you become delusional. I can guarantee hindu muslim will have similar of their deities.
It's a shame he is misinterpreting science, misquoting people and projecting claims of what atheists think as though they all do, when you have to do these things to convince your audience then you have to ask why, either he is so poorly educated he is ignorant of the real facts or he knows exactly what he is doing and deliberately misleading people to sell books etc, a religious indoctrinated audience is easy pickings for someone who knows how to get on their good side.
The arguments presented will not help you if you are trying to convince a non-believer. They only sound intelligent in a vacuum without any opposition.
The Israelites made a golden calf even after witnessing God's miracles face to face. So, when even those people who saw direct evidence denied and sinned against God, then no amount of evidence will convince an unbeliever.
@@dmack1209 Many people find the doctrine of the Holy Spirit confusing. Is the Holy Spirit a force, a person, or something else? What does the Bible teach? The Bible provides many ways to help us understand that the Holy Spirit is truly a person-that is, He is a personal being, rather than an impersonal thing. First, every pronoun used in reference to the Spirit is “he” not “it.” The original Greek language of the New Testament is explicit in confirming the person of the Holy Spirit. The word for “Spirit” (pneuma) is neuter and would naturally take neuter pronouns to have grammatical agreement. Yet, in many cases, masculine pronouns are found (e.g., John 15:26; 16:13-14). Grammatically, there is no other way to understand the pronouns of the New Testament related to the Holy Spirit-He is referred to as a “He,” as a person. Matthew 28:19 teaches us to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This is a collective reference to one Triune God. Also, we are not to grieve the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 4:30). The Spirit can be sinned against (Isaiah 63:10) and lied to (Acts 5:3). We are to obey Him (Acts 10:19-21) and honor Him (Psalm 51:11). The personhood of the Holy Spirit is also affirmed by His many works. He was personally involved in creation (Genesis 1:2), empowers God’s people (Zechariah 4:6), guides (Romans 8:14), comforts (John 14:26), convicts (John 16:8), teaches (John 16:13), restrains sin (Isaiah 59:19), and gives commands (Acts 8:29). Each of these works requires the involvement of a person rather than a mere force, thing, or idea. The Holy Spirit’s attributes also point to His personality. The Holy Spirit has life (Romans 8:2), has a will (1 Corinthians 12:11), is omniscient (1 Corinthians 2:10-11), is eternal (Hebrews 9:14), and is omnipresent (Psalm 139:7). A mere force could not possess all of these attributes, but the Holy Spirit does. And the personhood of the Holy Spirit is affirmed by His role as the third Person of the Godhead. Only a being who is equal to God (Matthew 28:19) and possesses the attributes of omniscience, omnipresence, and eternality could be defined as God. In Acts 5:3-4, Peter referred to the Holy Spirit as God, stating, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.” Paul likewise referred to the Holy Spirit as God in 2 Corinthians 3:17-18, stating, “Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.” The Holy Spirit is a person, as Scripture makes clear. As such, He is to be revered as God and serves in perfect unity with Father and Son to lead us in our spiritual lives.
@Loving one another I though we already went through this decontextualized analogy towards God? The Bible describes God as holy (Isaiah 6:3), righteous (Psalm 7:11), just (Deuteronomy 32:4), and sovereign (Daniel 4:17-25). These attributes tell us the following about God: (1) God is capable of preventing evil, and (2) God desires to rid the universe of evil. So, if both of these are true, why does God allow evil? If God has the power to prevent evil and desires to prevent evil, why does He still allow evil? Perhaps a practical way to look at this question would be to consider some alternative ways people might have God run the world: 1) God could change everyone’s personality so that they cannot sin. This would also mean that we would not have a free will. We would not be able to choose right or wrong because we would be “programmed” to only do right. Had God chosen to do this, there would be no meaningful relationships between Him and His creation. Instead, God made Adam and Eve innocent but with the ability to choose good or evil. Because of this, they could respond to His love and trust Him or choose to disobey. They chose to disobey. Because we live in a real world where we can choose our actions but not their consequences, their sin affected those who came after them (us). Similarly, our decisions to sin have an impact on us and those around us and those who will come after us. 2) God could compensate for people’s evil actions through supernatural intervention 100 percent of the time. God would stop a drunk driver from causing an automobile accident. God would stop a lazy construction worker from doing a substandard job on a house that would later cause grief to the homeowners. God would stop a father who is addicted to drugs or alcohol from doing any harm to his wife, children, or extended family. God would stop gunmen from robbing convenience stores. God would stop high school bullies from tormenting the brainy kids. God would stop thieves from shoplifting. And, yes, God would stop terrorists from flying airplanes into buildings. While this solution sounds attractive, it would lose its attractiveness as soon as God’s intervention infringed on something we wanted to do. We want God to prevent horribly evil actions, but we are willing to let “lesser-evil” actions slide-not realizing that those “lesser-evil” actions are what usually lead to the “greater-evil” actions. Should God only stop actual sexual affairs, or should He also block our access to pornography or end any inappropriate, but not yet sexual, relationships? Should God stop “true” thieves, or should He also stop us from cheating on our taxes? Should God only stop murder, or should He also stop the “lesser-evil” actions done to people that lead them to commit murder? Should God only stop acts of terrorism, or should He also stop the indoctrination that transformed a person into a terrorist? 3) Another choice would be for God to judge and remove those who choose to commit evil acts. The problem with this possibility is that there would be no one left, for God would have to remove us all. We all sin and commit evil acts (Romans 3:23; Ecclesiastes 7:20; 1 John 1:8). While some people are more evil than others, where would God draw the line? Ultimately, all evil causes harm to others. Instead of these options, God has chosen to create a “real” world in which real choices have real consequences. In this real world of ours, our actions affect others. Because of Adam’s choice to sin, the world now lives under the curse, and we are all born with a sin nature (Romans 5:12). There will one day come a time when God will judge the sin in this world and make all things new, but He is purposely “delaying” in order to allow more time for people to repent so that He will not need to condemn them (2 Peter 3:9). Until then, He IS concerned about evil. When He created the Old Testament laws, the goal was to discourage and punish evil. He judges nations and rulers who disregard justice and pursue evil. Likewise, in the New Testament, God states that it is the government’s responsibility to provide justice in order to protect the innocent from evil (Romans 13). He also promises severe consequences for those who commit evil acts, especially against the "innocent" (Mark 9:36-42). In summary, we live in a real world where our good and evil actions have direct consequences and indirect consequences upon us and those around us. God’s desire is that for all of our sakes we would obey Him that it might be well with us (Deuteronomy 5:29). Instead, what happens is that we choose our own way, and then we blame God for not doing anything about it. Such is the heart of sinful man. But Jesus came to change men’s hearts through the power of the Holy Spirit, and He does this for those who will turn from evil and call on Him to save them from their sin and its consequences (2 Corinthians 5:17). God does prevent and restrain some acts of evil. This world would be MUCH WORSE were God not restraining evil. At the same time, God has given us the ability to choose good and evil, and when we choose evil, He allows us, and those around us, to suffer the consequences of evil. Rather than blaming God and questioning God on why He does not prevent all evil, we should be about the business of proclaiming the cure for evil and its consequences-Jesus Christ!
I’ve been talking with an old friend who lost his faith, he’s been telling me evolution makes more sense than creation - this video showed up.. God’s timing is perfect.
@@alexanderthomas645 Ken Ham is a reality denying buffoon who relies on a strawman of the scientific method to try to exclude all the evidence that he is wrong on a technicality that doesn't really exist.
@@dylanjones268 well the universe is finite (not infinite), and theres this thing called the law of causality and thermodynamics. I suggest you look those up, and maybe it could change your mind (and before you reply to this comment, PLEASE actually look it up and read a couple articles before responding) :) And I just realised you said "prove it was CREATED". That's the equivalent of looking at a painting and saying, "prove that was painted", or looking at a buffet and saying "prove that was cooked".
@@takiyah0526 So in response to my prove it you argue claims you and other theists have made which also require proof and then you go off on a tangent about causality and thermodynamics and how I should educate myself... the thing about paintings, we 'know' who created them. Buffets, we know who cooked the food. Prove your claim or stop stating it as fact. Imagine if we all just made claims and everyone was forced to accept it without evidence. We'd be in a pretty messed up situation, don't you think?
@@ilovenoone2541 one day but they're fallen angels (deamon) not poltergeist..... poltergeist and ghost are human terms to hide behind the truth.. but you sound like you walk with them....be strong and ask Jesus Christ into your life, and youll find the truth
quoting Hawking out of context is pretty pathetic. And it is a lie to say everyone admits the universe had a beginning. Most physicists now do not say that. Apologetics = lies.
@@morganlife7787 Religious people : "You can't create something from nothing!" Non religious people: Then who/what created God? " Religious people: " Nothing! God was created from nothing! "
@@thehemulen8478 …..That’s called knowing the TRUTH. It’s easy when you know what’s real and what’s not. Fortunately, I know the truth very well and I have no doubts about Jesus Christ.
We are living in an age where "God created us" is considered "crazy", "unscientific", and "illogical"; and "Extraterrestrial aliens seeded life" is all of sudden "sane", "scientific" and "logical". It is outright refusal to acknowledge the truth. The Bible prophesied that time will come when everyone will undoubtedly know God exists (during the 7-years tribulation, aka time of Judgement). Sadly, most will choose to curse and fight against God instead of trust in Him. Bottom line is, no matter how many evidences you present now, and God eventually reveals Himself (Second coming of Jesus Christ, and after the Millennial Kingdom), many will refuse to accept and come to Christ. They will choose to fight against God instead. Tragic if you ask me.
@@bluemarble2458 1 CORINTHIANS 1:18 KJ21 For the preaching of the cross is foolishness to those who perish; but unto us who are saved, it is the power of God.
I knew of God but didn’t know Him but because things wasn’t going good in my life I deny heaven and hell didn’t read a bible or pray but I didn’t deny there is a creator. Because I said to God I don’t deny you but I deny heaven and hell I just believe we are born then we die and more people just populate the earth. But one day God show me there is a hell and heaven that’s almost 4 years ago I read my Bible everyday talk to God everyday I can’t get enough of Him and His Word. I found Peace joy Faith and His Love even through the midst of this chaotic world. God has totally change who I was to who I am now. All Praise Honor and Esteem to our Sovereign. Bless He is.
Doing that just proves Christians are fragile minded, which they always have been. I don't think he sends you vids on why you should be an atheist. Does he?
*"My god is spaceless, timeless, and immaterial"* In other words "my god is non-existent." Brilliant. *"Hawking said if the universe were different it wouldn't be the same!"* Again, brilliant. *"If it isn't wrong to murder, morality is subjective"* Murder is BY DEFINITION a killing we define as wrong. Meaning what we decide to be "murder" *_IS_* subjective. Turek has been described as an intelligent apologist. I see the apologetics... when do we get to the intelligent part?
“My God is space less, timeless, and immaterial” in other words, “my God exists outside the confines of His creation. He isn’t His creation and isn’t apart of His creation.” Is morality is indeed subjective, then how do we punish murderers who believe that they are right in killing others?
@@FaithMatini How can you differentiate between a thing that exists and is *"spaceless, timeless, and immaterial"* and something that doesn't exist? Not make a claim about it, but differentiate between those two options. Again, murder is *BY DEFINITION* the wrongful (as determined by each society) killing of another. We, as a society, decide what forms of killing are wrong. This is not difficult.
@@devb9912 by its creation. A painter is not part of the painting. Whatever creates something has to be outside of that thing to create it. Creation cannot create itself. Matter cannot create itself. Society doesn’t determine that murder is wrong. There is a higher being or thing that exists outside of society that acts as an anchor for truth. For example, when Hitler was persecuted, the laws used to persecute him existed outside his society where it seemed like what he was doing was right. Same with punishing other countries for war crimes. Who determines that these people are wrong if morality is subjective?
@@FaithMatini muderers surely dont think murder is a wrong thing Thats how subjectivity works Humans are social creatures we depend on each other to survive Also if you was to push the objectivity agenda think about war and how certain individuals will be regarded heros for mass murdering Still on the murder subject, do you know who the biggest murderer in the history of murder would be ? The God of the bible.
I caught the Holy Ghost for the first time in my life a few months ago at a Bible Study. I can’t even explain how that felt, I literally felt Gods love, it’s a indescribable overflow of love that’s hard to explain. I’m 32 years old and I have no shame in sharing this. Those who have felt that spirit before know what I mean.
Peace, Love, Joy. That is what what you felt. Something people work so hard for their entire lives to achieve: Big house and fancy cars = Security and insurance is now a concern Money in the bank = new god occupies the heart Business ventures = no time and lack of sleep Vacations = escaping boredom, results to all sorts of immorality House = Not a home Materials = continuous hoarding, eventually keeps one in bondage Peace = Never Joy = short-lived Love = only when there is money in the picture Seek God Almighty!
The true evidence of the Holy Spirit being in one's life has nothing to do with feelings because feelings are fickle, they come and go! They are like the waves of the sea. The true holy spirit comes into our lives to reveal the truth to us and to sanctify us by it. The holy spirit also gives us the power to resist evil and love the truth! It's not some warm fuzzy feeling in your stomach or some electrifying feeling that envelops your body: a demon can do that too! The true test is whether you're obeying God's commandments. Are you forgiving your enemies even when you don't "FEEL" like doing it? Are you returning a tenth of your income to God even when you dont "FEEL" like you would have enough left to pay your bills? Are you resisting the lusts of the flesh and looking in the opposite direction when a naked woman, who is not your wife, is walks by? Are you patient and praying with those who are struggling with a particular sin or are you harsh and cold toward them? These are the true questions we need to be asking ourselves when we talk about being Spirit-filled.
@Timothah Molone are you really using the watchmaker fallacy? Heres an interesting thought: How do you know that a watch has a maker? Buy that i mean how do we as humans know that watches has a maker? Is it because we have seen watches beeing made by humans and we can talk to these humans? When did we do this with our universe?
is this the same god who drowned everybody on the planet just because they disagree with him? the same god who said "thou shalt not kill" then writes a book of instructions on who and how to kill folks (canaanites for one)? if god existed he is immoral and a dictator and you're crazy to look up to this psychopath.
And yet Thomas who asked for evidence of the existence of the respawned Jesus demigod not only is claimed to have physical evidence but also got to finger his holes. If those who are blessed to have believed but not seen, then good for them. How about showing the evidence as the bible claims to do. Those who want evidence can get blessing points in other ways such as giving money to the poor, preaching etc. So there's no loss in asking for evidence of a claim. In fact it's biblical.
Psalm 14 and psalm 53 the first verses .....There is no God.... I sometimes tell this to mocking atheïsts. :" you are right, it is even written in the bible that there is no God, even twice ! Check psalm 14 and 53 the first verses....there is no God !
@@timg2088 And that is why the Bible is so good at conning people. You get stupid quotes like that to say so you don't have to think! How do you know that it is a fool you are answering unless you have engaged with them? It is also a quote that both side in can use and so ensures that there is no discussion which suits religions they hate questions.
The 3 greatest desires of Man: To sin as he pleases. To give no accountability for his sinful actions to a Holy creator . To not face the possibility of punishment for all eternity in a fiery Hell.
No the FOOL is the Person you cannot work out why this passage is in the Bible!!!!!!Because the Bible has to attest God Exists Because if God Doesn't Exist then who wrote the Bible!!!!! Man did and Men can lie and cheat and Distort to serve their own Ends Try again!!!
“If you declare with your mouth “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). Now is the time to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior. Obey His commands and repent of your sins because Jesus is coming back soon. Tomorrow isn’t promised.
"Obey His commands and repent of your sins because Jesus is coming back soon." What 'sins' what crime have I personal committed that is deserving of unending torture?
The Great Joy is when we have the WORD OF GOD. We can see the things as it were from GOD'S point of view. Look Around and be Distressed, Look Within and be Depressed, Look At JESUS and be at Rest.
As a born again Christian of 60 years, GOD has NEVER told me personally OR in HIS WORD that I have to PROVE to ANYBODY that HE EXISTS. So there. The Bible tells it all.
1 Peter 3:15b- Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect
God is our provider and sustainer! It’s that simple, everyday we wake up and have a way to provide for our families is proof (for me anyway) that there’s is an Almighty God! Life is precious and our recognition of Him is too 💗
Hemlock Cocktail the average theist don’t usually spend time antagonizing nor coming up with rebuttals for this ever going argument, it doesn’t give them satisfaction to “checkmate” strangers and use them as a verbal punching bag for their own enjoyment; unlike you of course
Humans have not discovered all there is to discover. Just because we do not understand something yet does not mean it will never be explained via logical explanations. People used to think all types of events that happen on Earth were the result of some higher power, but now that we have simple explanations for these events, no one thinks that.
I needed this. I prayed for this 🥺🥺🥺🥺 I was at a stage where, I douted, I hated myself for doubting and even in my doubt, I prayed for clarity and not to get lost in that dout🥺
There is a great video by Voddie Baucham called "why I believe the Bible" and he gives historical and archaeological factual evidence on how and why the Bible is real is true and can be trusted I highly recommend it.
Just look at the fine tuning of the universe, the fine tuning of man, and the fine tuning of life. Consider the bacterial flagellum. It is described as one of the most efficient machines in the universe. This microscopic organelle is essentially a perfectly designed outboard motor - complete with a stator, u-joint, drive shaft, environmental sensors, electromagnet, and water-cooled motor. This rotating motor consists of a number of necessary parts in a particular organized way, any part without which the machine will not work. If each part had to result from an individual separate evolutionary change, that part on its own, would have had to provide an evolutionary advantage. However, the part independent of the complete mechanism, would have not itself provided any benefit - if it can even be believed that the u-joint for example would have evolved for no particular reason, by random chance. Instead, that part would not be passed on to the next generation by replication. The flagellum could not be built over generations incrementally, in steps. Natural selection would eliminate any characteristic in successive generations, short of a complete functioning flagellum mechanism. Integrated complexity of the organelle presents an insurmountable obstacle to the fundamental claims of evolution. In other words, there is no way that the bacterial flagellum could have ever existed if it wasn't created by the hand of God. We can talk DNA next. What an absolute miracle in terms of its compact and highly efficient informational encoding. Just two examples out of millions upon millions upon millions that glorify God's mighty work.
@@snackler6102 It is the forest for the trees. A more complex process, design, etc. directly points to the hands of God. Consider the following and their cumulative probabilities if they were to happen by chance: fine tuning of the universe + the fine tuning of nature + the fine tuning of man + the Bible which clearly articulates creation (and when considering its 100's of prophecies that have all come true much less the sheer probability for just a handful of those to come true) + the history of the Jewish people, God's people (Israel is the only nation in the history of the earth that bears the same name, inhabits the same land, speaks the same language, and worships the same God that it did for over 3,000 years and couple that with all the nations over the millennia that have come against them that have ended up on the bone pile coupled with them being the only nation/group of people in the history of the world that have been exiled from their land and returned, which they did twice as predicted in the Bible hundreds and thousands of years before it occurred). The forest for the trees. Only God can orchestrate such things.
Much of "Design" in nature is quite frankly incompetent Many of the Structures in the Human body where Designed by a Cretin if God is a Designer he's not very Good
@@leebennett1821 The created critiquing the Creator. Super computers still can't match the processing complexity and efficiency of the human brain. Scientists far greater than you and me still haven't figured out the human body much less the universe. In actuality, we as a collective human race probably understand less than one tenth of one percent of creation. Don't ignore the Bible and human history and the history of the Jewish people. See my response to "type writer". As the saying goes, there are no atheists in hell. Translation, they now know God. We are all just one heart beat away from that meeting. Unfortunately if Jesus is not your Lord and Savior it will be too late.
Thank God! Literally, I was about to turn Atheist bro from lack of evidence. I needed this video so badly, that little bit of the Holy Spirit that was still in me blessed me! I was crying because I thought there was no God/Jesus. God bless you man!
this isn't evidence this is just arguments there is a difference we show evidence of something you shift that explanation to something else without evidence
There's a great video by pastor and professor Voddie Baucham called why I believe the Bible and he gives an hour long sermon on all of the historical archaeological evidence of the Bible's validity if you're interested it's a great video.
I’ve really needed this, I’ve had so many conversations with people who have said not to use the Bible because it’s biased towards Christianity, so this really helped
@@gu3sswh075 dang your just like me, except I have a 300+ playlist on the spiritual realm, real Christianity, and ex new Agers and ex witches and ex atheist and ex satanist
My evidence would simply be I’m alive. I didn’t wake myself up nor did an alarm clock. It’s because of the love of God and the grace of God it’s because of the finished work Jesus did on the cross. That’s enough proof for me.
My Pastor would say "cease to exist (not in a derogatory way), then try to recreate yourself using none of God's already existing materials and let us know how that works for you."
@@alady878 your preacher would beg the question, which is to say he would assume the conclusion, by even calling it God's materials when there is no demonstration that God had anything to do with it.
@@JustWonderingMg I've heard Turek's arguments before. He knows as much about science and evolution as I do. But I don't have a religious agenda. Also, I was raised Christian. I don't need apologists to tell me what the theology says. None of these arguments are evidence for God. God needs to be demonstrated empirically. Not argued into existence
@@colinmatts "God needs to be demonstrated empirically." Says who? Are you an empiricist? Because you do realize that you can't see, taste, smell, touch, or hear the laws of logic, yet you rely on this scientifically unprovable assumption in order to even attempt to reason? By your logic, the laws of logic do not exist. Since the laws of logic do not exist, the words you typed and your demand for empirical demonstration do not even mean anything. They're as coherent as "garblesnargles, therefore unicorns Biden." Oh, and the person and work of Jesus Christ were all empirical demonstrations of God. I mean, He is literally God incarnate, so....
@@juilianbautista4067 A God that can interact with our reality and alter it needs to be demonstrated empirically. How else would you know it's real? The laws of logic are a human construction. They are rules humans invented to make sense of the world we live in, our relationship to it, and, our relationship to each other. How do you know Jesus was "God incarnate"? Because some old book says so?
I've noticed that even accomplished theologians that are incredibly well versed in their field of study, when you filter through all of their rhetoric you realise they don't have any better arguments than your regular/average bible believing Christian, they just sound better because they've learned how to obfuscate and hide the fact that they don't have good reasons to believe in a God they can't prove exists.
@@acemxe8472 "proof" you mean the claims he provided without proving anything. There was a whole bunch of gobbledygook he spouted but I'll just talk about his first claim. He said that the universe had a start, so therefore it needed something to start it. He then slotted God into thst void without actually providing any evidence that a God existed to start it off. Also the amount of specal pleading he was doing was laughable. His logic, the universe needed a beginning but my God didn't. That isn't being logically consistent. Just a whole bunch of claims he didn't substantiate, typical Christian
@@d-fenz Proof google definition- evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or truth of a statement. And he did that. You do know that when he said the universe had a beginning, he argued for that cause being God.... so you make no sense.
I once heard an Atheist physicist say that belief in a multiverse is religious belief! (She didn't believe in it, but doesn't have an answer for why the universe exists, either. But at least she was honest.)
I hope to provide some positive discussion, to clear up some misconceptions that many theists have about athiests. In my experience, my perspective is quite common, much more so than simply asserting the multiverse. My perspective is that nobody knows why the universe appears to have started when it did. There are a number of theories, such as big crunch/bang cycles, multiverse theory, existing because it does, and of course the theory that god created it. But there isn't actually evidence of any of these, so why should I believe any of them?
@@blakebrockhaus347 If you're a strict evidentialist then that is a logical conclusion but it seems deeply unsatisfactory to be left with a radical agnosticism or skepticism. Of course, there's no proof, but I think we can reason from the agreed facts of science to metaphysical explanations. e.g. The evidence is that the universe had a beginning (and AFAIK, no physical explanation explains it), the universe appears to be finely tuned, information is embedded into nature - these aren't really in question. I think the God hypothesis seems makes better sense of all of this than alternative explanations in the absence of evidence. It is reasonable, if not proven. Thoughts?
@@Alarcahu you made two points, I'll discuss them separately. Also, I genuinely want to thank you for also trying to have a productive conversation in RUclips comments. I do find it unsatisfying to not know how the universe started. It is a mystery that I don't think we'll truly solve. But I'm not going to try and change the universe to suit my personal wants and needs. Your second point is known as the teleological, or watchmakers argument. And it is indeed probably the strongest apologetics argument, however I still don't find it convincing. This world is indeed extremely well suited to us, and to all other life. It is true that there was an extraordinarily narrow path to the point we are at today. But the argument makes an assumption that the universe HAD to come to this point, which I disagree with. I think that a more likely explanation is that through natural selection over the course of millions of years, we adapted to be well suited to the existing environment, not the other way around. It's even possible that the physical constants arose from the conditions of the universe.
8:23 Frank really felt comfortable saying that knowing the man is dead and not able to confront him but debating him face to face, Frank was a good little boy who took the verbal whipping.
If I can believe that everything created came from a cosmological accident that produced a nearly infinite number of biological, mathematical, physical, etc attributes being just right-then I have no problem believing there is an intelligent Creator. Praise the Lord for His omniscience and sovereignty! I hope everyone here is blessed with an opportunity for God to be glorified in his or her life today!
Just right for what? Most of the universe is empty and devoid of life. This argument also fails to consider the possibility of other universes that could have failed.
@@mikechiello We have got an immortal God who's been around before time was created. What makes you think that it's so impossible for him to do it im 6 days(we don't know how old the earth is so he could have done it over a certain amount if time since the Bible Bible 1000 years Is 1 day for the lord, which can support that time has existed longer. However is it so impossible for a deity so powerful to create time and matter to make a green rock with life on it.
you mean conversations that have flawed thinking? One easy question: How do you know that our universe is finely tuned? by something beein finely tuned implies that tuning in the first place is possible. Could our universe be any different? This makes the fine tuning argument baseless
Show me your god..... Have him show himself to me. 25 years of being a Christian and lying to people is too much I'm done.get your head out of your ass
@@TheRealCatof no He’s just always been. He is eternal He has no beginnings neither end he’s always been. If someone were to create him then he wouldn’t be God.
I got baptized in 1990. I backslide after a while but I have never stopped loving God and Jesus Christ. I have been through a lot. A couple of near death experiences. I even lost my 18 year old daughter to lupus 2 years ago. But of late He has been calling me back to Him and I have answered the call. I have realized that even though I know about God and love him I have never really given Him and His Son a chance to really work in my life but now I'm finally doing it. I am very grateful for the chances that he has given me. People God is real. His Son is real. Please I beg of u accept Jesus Christ and give your life over to him. Please. He is the only way. Look at what is going on in in the world today. Scientists go on probability. My God is a surety.
@@serenapalmer1220 The Biblical evidence is this: The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Spirit. The Spirit is not the Father. The Father is God. The Son is God. The Spirit is God. There is one and only one God. God existed outside of time. Creating the universe created time. God used His creative power to exist in time as three Persons (consciousnesses). Each Person is fully God. Each voluntarily took on a unique role without altering the nature of any. In addition, the Person in the Son role added human nature to His divine nature. God is not a deceptive quick-change artist who morphs between personalities and titles.
@@douglasmcnay644 But you have the same problem. You are subjectively deciding that the subjective opinion of the god you subjectively believe exists is the measure. There was nothing that said the measure needed to be objective and yours is just as subjective as ours. And that's all "good" amd "evil" are. Expressions of preference.
Allen, how dare you sit there and act like white southern slave owners were not majority christian. And how dare you sit there and act like they didnt use the bible to justify slavery. You embarrass me.
@@Solutionsarejustcompromises you're stupid because Jesus told his disciples after his ressurection because you seen you believe BLESSED are those who have not seen but BELIEVES. There's plenty of scriptures to back her comment you're just ignorant
@@Solutionsarejustcompromises I have my proof life is my proof. Who put the clouds in the sky the stars the moon the rain that falls from about if there is no sun or rain we would all die of starvation and thirst. I watch two birds build a nest out of dirt it look like a basket I was so amaze. The baby birds are now hatch while one parent watch the babies the other one go for food. Eventually they both flew away but one comes at night and stay with the babies. A woman carry a whole human in her body and the baby are being fed as the mom eats and when the baby is born the mom produce the food for that baby in her body if it’s not a God then I don’t know what to say. My sis and her husband have horses and anytime there is a new pony all the other hoses surround the mom and child so no one can get close to the baby pony. Nature teaches me a lot about the Creator. Some call him God , YAHUAH some say Jehovah , Yahweh. I’m not quite sure what’s the real name but I don’t like God because it spell dog backwards so I’m not comfortable with that name plus God is just a title. My opinion it’s between me and my Maker.
Atheism or science will NEVER be able to prove these two things - the beginning of the universe and the morality of the human heart. The Bible answers both of these in Genesis 1:1 and Romans 2:14-15, respectively.
@@gu3sswh075 No, that's just utter nonsense. I was always told as a child it was wrong to assume your going to heaven. Seriously how do you know any of this is true? If your God is omniscient why didn't he just kill Satan instead of the millions he kills in the O.T. If your God is so wonderful why does he appear in India & rid the country of Hinduism or tell the world Islam is wrong & Christianity is true? Instead all we get is a load of old tosh from a book full of bigotry & hatred.
Morality is actually explained very well by evolution. Groups of people that work together survive and pass genes better than individuals or dysfunctional groups. Kindness, empathy, and selflessness all help the group function more cohesively
"When you think of a spaceless, timeless, immaterial, powerful, personal and intelligent cause, who do you think of?" I'm thinking of a hyper-evolved being who unshackled itself from the limitations of its physical body through science. Therefore, Doctor Manhattan created the universe. Checkmate, Christian.
Without even opening the Bible, existence of Israel, despite what the nation has experienced throughout the history, is the living proof that God exists and God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob is the true God of the universe. Despite all these supernatural hate against the nation, Israel will forever continue to exist, because Israel is God's chosen nation, and God will protect them.
Israel is God's chosen PEOPLE, not nation. The tribes were scattered throughout the nations. As believers in Messiah, we are GRATED INTO Israel. There is no Jew or Gentile, we are all grafted into the commonwealth of Israel. We are Israel, God's people. We are spiritual Israel, it's not a piece of land/real estate.
@@jasont5427 Replacement Theology (aka supersessionism) is biblically inconsistent. Through Jesus Christ, we are all children of God, but God makes clear distinction between Jews and Gentiles in the Bible. God has distinct promises for Jews and Gentiles. Gentiles are the main focus during the church age, but as we enter the tribulation (end of the church age), God's primary focus will be for salvation of Israel. I will leave you with few examples from the Bible verses and videos that discuss this topic in detail. Romans 11 (God has not abandoned Israel and how we, the gentiles, are blessed through the Jews), Matthew 23:37-39 (salvation of Israel and prior to second coming of Jesus Christ), Zechariah 8:23 (during the Millennial Kingdom). Videos ruclips.net/video/3e_gK0zrPn8/видео.html ruclips.net/video/IcoExsCMPc8/видео.html
@@jasont5427 What are you talking about? I didn't block you from anything. I, just like other people who are commenting, don't have such option to block anyone. You make false accusation, yet have no problem posting your comment of the issue.
Allen I will plead you do a second part of the Pornography video addressing in details the solutions to overcoming this weapon of the enemy. Most of our brothers and sisters want to be free but don't know how. God bless u.
I will tell you what Allen wouldn't, because I want you saved from this sin. Get on your knees day and night. Have real remorse for your sins and repent to God for them. All of them. Start following all of what Jesus taught in obedience to him. Ask God to fill you with the Holy Ghost. Keep studying his Word daily and praying daily. Keep your mind filled with God and his will. Unsubscribe from this false prophets channel. He teaches to take the mark of the beast, the shot. He is leading many to damnation. Trust in the Word of God only. If you do these things, not only will you be removed from the sin of porn but will follow Jesus with a zeal in all things. Then hold tight to that obedience until Jesus returns which is very soon.
@@kathyk5589 you are commenting too much on shots and everything if this yutuber is wrong as if you think pray for him in that way you can help another innocent soul to be more close to God stop wasting time for commenting in RUclips and ask God am I doing right or wrong. I still don't understand what shot you are thinking cov vaccine cannot mark any form of number into a person it only helps to resist cov 19 virus have some intense research on that. I really can see lack of knowledge in basic science it's OK but pray for him if yur thinking he's wrong ok?
Thanks Allen! I Love how Turek explains this in a simple way. Logical sense. I agree that many non-believers first want to look for answers not in the bible, but around them. When they examine how the world functions and how it is created, it is clear that it points to God. Then i like how Turek says, thats something we find evident, before you even open a bible!
So that this universe is only dead and lethal to just about 99.99999999999999999...% is evidence for...which ancient myth again? I really do not get it.
@@colinmatts faith trying to defend a lack of any faith, just because they see Christianity as the greatest threat. Although the government hasn’t forced a religion on anyone.
@@ChristianityFirst Holy fuck. If that's what you and these people think evolution is then you have already lost the debate. Individuals do not evolve. Try actually getting evolution right before trying to claim its wrong. Evolution DOES NOT claim a man will turn into a penguin. You're an embarrassment
I sometimes like to shake people up by agreeing that God DOESN'T exist - he IS "exist." To EXIST is to "stand out from a background," and God IS that background (he is the "gound of all being," the old theologians said).
@@nerowolfe736 I like to think of GOD as the ultimate Game Master, currently running a human only campaign with currently about 8 billion player characters. We each have randomly assigned attributes at birth, and free will to multi-class as we gain experience. At zero hit / health points we fall unconscious, and at -10 hp we die. As The Word, God is the ultimate author presenting us with a massive choose your own adventure that humanity is working it's way through. No matter what path we take, eventually we will reach a chapter point before new options / paths open up. Biblical prophecy marks those 'chapter points' in the story of humanity and warns of the disasters our arrogance, ignorance, greed, pride, anger, etc will bring down upon our heads before God has to step in and save the campaign from the PCs before allowing it to wrap up and finish with the BBEG (big bad evil guy) and his realm (hell) being consigned to the lake of fire and destroyed. And this is just One campaign world that's only somewhere between 6000 - 13.8 billion game years old. GOD has no beginning and no end. God is outside of space / time. God has other campaigns going in other planes of existence, each with their own space / time. Angels are other-dimensional beings (divine messengers) that can move back and forth between the different planes. Heaven is a higher dimensional plane, while Hell is a lower plane- compared to our universe.
You've got it wrong - every living person knows there is God without being told by another person. The scriptures clearly says God has revealed himself through what seen...his creation. Deep down, each of us knows God - just that we have rebelled against him and each one of us gone their own way. Jesus is the only back to God.
That's not true. People are atheist until indoctrinated or their superstitions take over. Our homosapiens species did not of your god until the last few thousands years of it's 300,000 years. That's why there are remote tribes that do not know who your god is. Your primitive man made scripture is lying and contradictory. Deep down you're an atheist. Jesus is a Jew that died and never resurrected. Your god could reveal himself easily and chooses not to because the people who wrote the book knew they couldn't convince anyone but those mentally gullible.
Sounds like "everybody is born good". If everyone was born good, no one could ever be bad. If everyone was born an atheist, no one could ever be a believer. Show me any study that proves children are more atheists than adults.
@FallenAngel No study is perfect, but it IS a study! You dont even have a study! Any other basis for "born atheist" than being atheist? Atheist parents will tell their children "there is no god", Christian parents will tell them " there is a god". "Born atheist" would mean the percentage of atheists among children is higher or equal than among adults. *INCLUDING* cultural or social influence! Never ever heard that children believe less in God than adults! It's the opposite. Even if you dont accept the equation "more belief in God = innate to believe in God" that does NOT mean " = innate atheism"! "Innate atheism" would mean a child would never think without being told "there is or there could be (!) a higher being that created the world". You think so? Even most atheists would deny that. Or do you have any study proving that? Why do all cultures of all times have their Gods if atheism was innate? The first atheistic parents of mankind (whenever and whoever this may have been) never told their innate-atheistic children about a higher being/ god. These never told their children, etc, etc. Yes, that DOES make atheistic sense why we have countless religions! OK, I got it! Debate finished.
I used to get caught up in these types of discussions, but realized that they are not and just vain arguments. 2 Timothy 2:23 tells to reject these speculations. God bless Frank Turek, but a lot of what he said is very academic. If we have really read the Bible and remember it, nowhere did Jesus or His Disciples spend time being academic or trying to prove the existence of God....or even the existence of Christ to new lands that never met Him. They simply walked in love, showed sacrifice for others, and displayed the Power given to them. We have to stay the course and understand that our goal is to simply give the Truth we know in Christ according to The Word.
@Hemlock Cocktail Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear (Ephesians 4:29)
@Hemlock Cocktail These verses do not contradict each other. They can be understood by reading the chapters in full. In 2 Timothy 2, Paul instructs Christians on how to address disputes and empty discussions. Christians should avoid such things, As they only lead to confusion among some. (14-15) verses 22 through 25 explain what Christians should do instead. “22 So flee youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart. 23 Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. 24 And the Lord's servant[a] must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, 25 correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth”. it is true that 1 Peter 3:15 tells Christians to defend there hope and faith in God, but you did not include the rest of the verse. “ but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect”. Here we can see that both verses are referring to how Christians should approach others when talking about the faith, with gentleness, peace, and respect. When people defend the faith, they must be very careful to not become arrogant, feeling superior in the fact that they just proved a point. Instead, they should follow the example of Christ and the apostles, humble patient, and loving with their interactions with others, and speaking God’s word just like Sherese has already said. Next time, before you use another Bible verse as an argument you should try reading the surrounding scripture and the context of the book it’s found in. I’m saying this out of love, because I’ve made the same mistake multiple times, and it’s still something I need to work on every day. God bless
The Bible says not to get into quarrels because they often lead to unrighteous anger, which is a sin. If you look in the King James Bible, one of the closest translations of the original language, the word defend is not even used in one Peter 3:15. “But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear”. You do not have to get into an argument with someone to defend something. When Christ was challenged by the Pharisees in matters such as the law, he did not get into quarrels, he taught with love and patience. So you are correct in saying that Christians are meant to avoid quarreling, but they are also meant to teach and give answers when they are faced with questions and challenged by others.
@Hemlock Cocktail But the verse you quoted is about anyone asking about 'the hope', in other words faith. Indeed we have to be ready to engage in matters of faith. You are not engaging on faith but on evidence of God or God being the creator. So there's no 'contradiction' there. Indeed the verse you quoted is not applicable to people like you, who do not believe God to be the creator and are not open to accepting the gospel of Christ, for Christ advised not to throw pearls before swine. Blessings!
Peter 3:15 "But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for the hope that is in you. But respond with gentleness and respect"
If it is wrong to torture babies then what about the killing of babies in the old testament due to pharaoh not letting the people go. Also, let's not forget the flood. There has to be babies around that time as well.
According to God's timeless universal objective moral nature by which he rules the universe... it is OK to kill babies. He leads by example "Love one another as I have loved you" implies that killing babies is godly
@@mikewasowski3573 How much better does it make thing. If I kill a baby, I'll be sent to jail but "God" can get away with that and be worshiped. You don't see an error in your reasoning?
15 year old grandson watched with me. Thank you Allen for theis interview. Very Interesting. I want to strengthen my knowledge on how to defend God with out even opening the bible. My grandson and I discussed after and he learned from watching this video. This makes a lot of sense and I believe it. Thank You Dr. Frank Turke
May I, in all respect, ask that you also teach your grandson the science behind the claims Turek mentions. There are scientific replies to all that Turek says, and Turek doesn't present these very well. Also, he doesn't represent science well, fx when he talks about macro and micro evolution. Ask any biologist, and he'll tell you there no real difference btw the two, except for time. Let him learn both sides, so he can make an informed choice about what to believe.
That is bullshit. People are atheists because they don't have any evidence pointing to a god. As for the idea that atheists are immoral people that is completely untrue. If you feel you need a knife to your throat to be a good person that is fine, but most people are able to be good people without the threat of hellfire.
What you just mentioned is what makes the vast majority of atheists become agnostics and shortly after they become agnostic is when they find Jesus. How do I know this? Because I am this person lmao. I used to be near-militant athiest. Their was nothing to could tell me that proved God existed and then one day I sat and thought with my brain and decided their was no way I could possibly know 100% for certain that someone or something created everything as we know it, and that's what made me an agnostic. Which is when I was first willing to admit that I didn't know what was happening. Shortly after that I realised no one would believe or trust someone who admits that they know nothing at all about how everything was created for certain. This was when I first started reading the quaran. Even then I knew it was the book of Satan. Once I realised I just admitted a book of Satan exists, that means a book the opposite of that probably exists and that the bottomless pit of evil must be countered by some kind of all powerful good that is limitless. This was when I started reading the Bible. I read the first page or two and that's when I realised that bible contained more knowledge than I could ever hope to learn and thus it's creator was smarter than I. This is when I realised the bible has no known author and was rather, created by the hand of God. Everyone thinks the first books of the bible were written by moses but that's not true. Moses didn't write them because they're actually about Moses, not written by him, but about him. The beggining of the book of genisis has never been accurately dated and is believed to be ancient. How could something ancient, something created before telescopes, know to call the planet were on "Earth" and that space is a deep dark void? This book somehow knew the nature of the universe far earlier than when we thought it was regular common practice for people to think the earth was flat. Sounds like a higher power to me. The thing that's behind the creation of the bible new that space was an endless void long long before man did. Everyone on earth calls earth "earth" but they don't realize the first time we see the name earth in recorded human history is the beggining of the bible, the oldest known pieces of writing in mankinds history. Even the muslims are more Christain than they realise lmao. Repent Muslims and come back to Jesus. Come back home, you don't need Muhammad deciving you no more.
@@nsptech9773 I wrote out this massive beautiful explaintion to your question but then my tablet died right as I was hitting send so I'm going to sum it up quicker lmao. They're called the books of Moses not the books by moses. That's my reasoning. Also the books of Moses cover Moses life literally from before his birth until after his death. Nowhere in there was he spending years authoring some of the greatest writing mankind ever received. He was more busy leading enslaved people to freedom, to the promised land, getting the ten commandments from god on mount Sinai. The books of Moses don't include anything about Moses being a writer, thus I believe the books of Moses were written about him after he passed, and not by him. He isn't the author. Although Many historians might disagree, I respectfully think they're wrong. Many parts of Genisis were written way way way WAY before Moses even existed. So I believe no single story in the bible was written by anyone in the story. They were written by other people in parts and pieces as they documented reality itself, and then assembled in the correct order over centuries. So they're the author's of the documentation of reality which is authored by God himself. So god is the real author and we're meerly the documenters of his story. I believe at least at this moment, that the bible is guided by the hand of the creator, and no single man had any kind of control over the story, rather the story was was already written in how reality of man itself unfolded, and was documented by men, and assembled by other men long after they had died. People can guess who wrote certain books of the bible all they want but few parts if any are directly written by the people in the stories. Many parts are literally what the apostles said verbally, documented by other people, passed down and assembled by totally different people over centuries. Their is no clear authors there. It's the only book written by so many different people documenting what happened that it has so many authors that it's a wonder the story even fits together completely perfectly like it does. It's a miricle in itself with such complexity that the story fits together seamlessly and perfect. Moses couldnt have wrote his own books. Instead many people came together after he died to figure out the stories pieces and to piece them together correctly. Their is only one way the story of salvation fits together without contradicting, they just had to figure it out more than thy were doing any authoring. The story was already written, it was more about documenting the story correctly more than it was actually authoring and inventing the stories. The puzzle only fit one way, they had to discover it more than they did any of it's writing. Most of the bible is people who lived entirely different lives and didn't even know of each other's existence, yet their stories still completely fall in exactly as they are supposed to. That's why the books of the bible have a story and the story was decided and set in stone long before the bible was ever constructed, or the reality behind the stories even happened in the real world. The real writer of the bible knew how it was going to end, before Genisis or the books of Moses were even close to being constructed, or the events of the stories even happened in real life. The only thing that can know the past present and future to the point that it can weave this perfect story over generations, centuries over several different books full of people not even aware of each other, is god because only God exists in the past present and future. Even Moses getting the ten commandments on mount Sinai still effects most of the developed world today as they follow those ten commandments to this day. Their is no way Moses wrote those books because Moses was leading people to the promised land, he wasn't busy writing. Moses alone wouldn't father the law of the entire developed free world thousands of years after he was long gone. It's God that did that. Only God could do that. Their is far too many people involved over centuries in just the construction of Genisis alone for any single man to have control of the story. Thus the story is constructed by man, but the story is written by God. Right at the center of this story written by God and constructed by man, is his son Jesus who was tortured to death after he came to try to save the world. Figures the main character of a book written by God and not Moses is his own son lmao. His own son is smack in the center and it's us killing him. I used to think Moses wrote the books even while I was reading them. Then it occured to me while reading the books OF Moses, it didn't say the books BY Moses like every other book in mankinds history who's author is clearly stated. The books of the bible have no clear authors, maybe few parts do from what I can tell MAYBE, but most of the story is guided by God and constructed by man long after the fact. I mean, most of the book is God giving the ten commandments and then destroying every civilization that turns against those commandments. God makes it very clear he is in control of the story, he is the writer of mankinds story and we meerly documented it in the bible. We are meerly the constructors of his story of salvation that we have recorded and documented on paper for people to read. Their is no author to the books of Moses because they're quite literally historical documentation. No one sat and brainstormed the story because the story actually happened in reality and the person who made reality okay our the way it did and is, is God as no man can simply author the universes existence and the story of mankind except God. The story was already written by God so their is no authors, only documentary of the story as it was written and played out in reality. That's why Moses didn't write the books about himself. Other people constructed his story after it played out and eventually once the bible started getting pieces together, his piece fit in right where it belonged and was meant to go where god intended it to go before he even spoke the universe into existence. Hallelujah Another example would be Abraham in the bible, people on earth here say he fathered the two greatest religions, but in the bible it's God who tells Abraham directly he will be the father of nations, it's all controlled by God. The author of the bible is God. Man is meerly the constructors of the story as it was already written and playing out in the real world with real people. And if you read the Bible you'll see it. If you read just Jesus in the books of mathew, mark, luke, and John, you can clearly read Jesus, but if you jump to revelation and then back to Genesis, you'll notice it seems like the same Jesus in Mathew mark Luke and John is the same guy who wrote Genesis, and revelation. The book has many different constructors, but one main author. The entire book is basically penned by Jesus, from cover to cover. God himself is an invisible spirit though, so he can't write the physical book himself, but instead he used mankind to construct his book he wrote for him, and he wrote it for us. That's something a one real and only God would do. The best book that exists for us to read, he wrote for us. that's a loving God if you ask me. He has been setting up the story for an eternity just for us
Our whole existence is surrounded by the logic of creation. The clothes we wear are created by someone, the cars we drive in are created by someone. Now lets use the same logic: the houses we life in are created by someone > the trees we see are created by someone. If we use Logic we cant escape this universe is created by someone..
Just look around at the earth and universe, everything is perfect. How would the Big Bang know that a human needs only two eyes, two ears and two arms and legs? Only a designer like God would know this.
This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, “This is an interesting world I find myself in-an interesting hole I find myself in-fits me rather neatly, doesn’t it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!” This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything’s going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.
The Big Bang doesn’t have a mind of its own. There is no flaws on the earth or heavens for a non creator to accomplish it. The only flaws is in us humans, because of the fall in the garden of Eden.
@@viktorgadany7595 There are loads of flaws on Earth. How do you think we get earthquakes, volcanos, landslides and tsunamis. You have to prove heaven is a real place before we can test it for flaws. Humans are flawed in all sorts of ways. That's because evolution isn't trying to reach a perfect goal. The garden of eden is a fairy tale
I prefer listening to Pastor John MacArthur. He reads, preaches and teaches from the Bible and is 82 years young! He knows what is truth from error and doesn't beat around anything!
So whats the explanation for 2 different genealogy of Jesus in the bible. Or the explanation of why your allowed to beat your slave and not be punishment if he stays alive for a day?Exodus 21:20-21 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave survives after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
That's why we're commanded to study to show thyself approved. Regardless of who it's coming from you know the truth when you hear it. Some pastors are more passionate about preaching than others should be the only difference.
This video is filled with the God of gaps theory which is basically "I don't know how some things work so I'm going to say it's God" it's a terrible argument.
That's true, but he did admit that even though there is a God that created the universe, we don't know which God is the right one for sure such as Allah or the Christian God, I believe both these Gods are and serve the same one fine tuning God but they just have different rules and beliefs for each religion. Also, if you really think about it, it just naturally makes sense that there is a creator for our universe and for life because what other theories are there that are as logical or as reasonable as there being a fine tuner like God? God just makes the most sense out of all the theories and it is just the most logical thing to think that the intricately complex world that we human beings live in has a creator. It's just too good to be true if life just came from nothing or from an accident, we weren't born for nothing or came into existence without a creator. If there wasn't a fine tuner of the universe such as God, then all the laws of physics and nature and any laws of the universe wouldn't last too long or as good as they do now. Without God, it would be a miracle to even be alive and last this long in a randomly accidentally created universe. And if we could miraculously survive this long from something such as the Big bang theory and evolution, we could also be taken away from the universe too along with all life, but we've been alive as a human race far too long for it to have been a lucky perfect accident which we are still somehow alive in.
@@droneactivities you make a good point but the natural God theory falls apart with one question. Why can god be the exception to something can't come from nothing but not people? Why can god be alive without a infinite creator but not us? Is it not more of a stretch that there's a being that completely contradicts what we know about how the universe works then to just say we might be an except or better yet, just say we don't know like scientists have been saying. There's meny points for this question and as I've stated before the other point you made is a god of gaps argument. You don't know how we are alive so you're going to assume it's god. Also the argument that if the big bang was even a little off it would collapse back in on itself because this yo can be answered by one question. What do you think will happen if all that Matter comes back in on itself? I think it just would explode again and if it fails again.
@@droneactivities I applaud anyone who tries to use reason to prove God however, I'll give you that.👏 👏👏👏👏. Much better then people who just say their God is obviously the real one because of things like the Bible.
@@droneactivities also there seems to be a misconception that atheist believe we come from and that we think the big bang was the beginning of the universe. We don't believe the big bang was the beginning but rather the big bang is the furthest back we can observe the universe before are mathematical models and science don't make as much sense before.
@@droneactivities ruclips.net/video/hOtUDQe4p5Y/видео.html this video makes one of the best arguments against the cristian god and I would argue these points myself but um not as articulate as those guys
NO, we're not saying there is a multi verse. We're simply saying we don't believe your claims. See, YOU assert and claim that there is a god there for the burden of proof is on you!😎
@@edk484 And even if that character jesus in that fiction book actually existed and he actually said that. How do we know that he's actually god? Go.👉....
@@keithkoster8937 Oh, that is simple...I asked Him myself and He gave me rest and even more like : peace, joy, love, purpose, perspective, eternal life and more... You can go to Him as well and you will receive the same... As I said :" the proof of the pudding...."
@@yoshisaidit7250 lol, you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Josephus was in, I believe Rome when the events of Jesus were taking place. He’s also not a Christian, he was a Jew. Josephus is also never mentioned in any book of the Bible. He was a historian in Rome and he wrote something like, there’s some unrest due to some supposed miracle man down in Judea. That’s not exactly what he said but it’s close enough. You can look him up if you want his quote verbatim.
@@Bryan-gw6bn OK, I dont have time rt now, but I will look into it. I did a quick scan, so far what I have is he was heavily influenced in politics, and was born after said events. Therefore, when I look into it, I will most likely find that what you claim is false just like everything else.
“What evidence do you have that the God of the Bible DOESNT exist?” Whe someone frames the question in the tone of voice that they do in the title of this, no amount of evidence will persuade them otherwise
@@terrybrown4542 sure why not? At least be cordial and ask what turek does “ if christianity were true would you become a Christian?” At least you would know where they stand. If they say no, then ask them why what they believe is more rational. Of course they cant but at least you know theyre not rejecting it on a rational logical basis. Its just pure emotion, a bad past experience, or pride. You can at least plant a rock pr two in their shoe, then when life throws them a curveball big enough such as their own self sufficiency cant overcome, well maybe at that time the person will ask about it
I think it is important to grasp what many seem to overlook. And that is that just because we have been able to measure some aspects of our existence, does not mean there is no god, or higher power. The idea of if it is the Christian god is a different debate. But the binary argument that since we have the ability to figure functions out through a scientific method, that it must equally mean there is not a intentional higher driving force behind existance just seems like such a jump to me.
One of the most popular of the Hot Young Atheist buzzwords is that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Yes, but what if we frame the question this way: for 2,000 years, hundreds of millions of human beings, across a wide range of cultures and many religions, have come to acknowledge the reality of Jesus Christ, and have based their lives and eternal fate on him, his message, life, death, and Resurrection. So the atheist has to hold that every single one of those people was deceived, deluded, dreaming, indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or insane, and only he and a few others are smart enough to see through the whole imposture. Quite an extraordinary claim, that. Where's the extraordinary evidence that you alone are the one who is right? Hundreds and hundreds of millions are shaking you by the shoulders and telling you straight that you are blind, and the thinker in your head is broken. How long can you disagree with all of them?
When you have to back track over years of records and testimonials and other articles of information, to please the framed argument that acts as if we should deny everything we have to just come back to the present moment as if everything in this present moment without everything in the past is illogical. How can one form argument against God without having the word God to conversate about God. As well as structure what we deem "rational " without the existing content of our database of debating rational terms against irrational ideas. I suppose "agnostic" could have occurred without cultural history. But there's no argument to debate about "agnosticism" because we DO have knowledge. About many things.
"Any man who rejects Christ as the Son of God is rejecting a fact proved perhaps more absolutely than any other fact in the world." Chapter 3 / Science Speaks
So a book from before we knew about DNA, before space flight, before the unification of EM and weak nuclear, before the Silicon chip, or the internet, that is your basis for science? I think you need to do some reading. The book was considered a dubious rant when it was published, it has not aged well.
If the three arguments made are sound, why assume Odin exists? That would be like someone showing you that intelligent life on other planets very probably exists, and then you coming to the conclusion Chewbacca exists. In the absence of additional evidence, deism is the most rational choice. Of course, if part of their reason for believing in intelligent life is because first contact was on every news channel, then we can be very confident in knowing the identity of at least one intelligent life form. In the presence of the evidence for the historicity of the Gospels and the resurrection, Christianity is the most rational choice.
@@hyreonk dear friend, "evidence of the gospel and resurrection" is a pretty funny idea. I suggest you go far deeper in your study about, maybe your pastor is not the better source to study. Just for clarity, there is NOT any evidence of resurrection, there is a lot of evidence that gospels where strigth invented. So my assumotion about odin is not only at the same level of your god, but I think is more reliable then your. Bye my friend
@@IoDavide1Can you point me in the direction of the sources you have about Odin, or that the gospels are fabricated? It seems a fascinating point of discussion. Also, my pastor was not my source. Gary Habermas' minimal facts argument won it for me. A few historical facts about Jesus (his death, his followers' sudden and sincere belief in seeing him alive, and the early church's start in Jerusalem who would have the best information about whether Jesus really rose, and the conversion of the previously hostile James and Saul) have not been well explained by any non-Christian theory. So as a disclaimer, I have essentially made up my mind. The evidence is as good as it came in its time.
@@hyreonk dear friend, it is pointless to point my joke about odin, who is a fantasy being as well as your god. About your study, I suggest you to begin reading the bible and reading christian scolars that explain how gospels are one the copy of the other and that are completely sourceless. But I know you will not do anything of this, because you dont want anything disturb what you believe. Bye
I hope to someday be able to speak about God and the truth in this way. I have a hard time remembering verses and chapters and feel intimidated when thinking of sharing the Gospel. Thank you for this video it answers alot of questions I also have. God bless
Perhaps you should just confess Jesus to others and obey the bible so that the non-christians will glorify God by your good conduct in Jesus name amen!
for anyone who want to choose to believe in God we can test that anything that has answered prayers around all time little and big desires even it´s not God whatever that exist in nature that give us what we ask it´s a God maybe it´s not a human like we want but that natural law that give us the power to us for miracles to happen it´s God that´s God we have so many proofs that there is imposible to count all the prayers and desires that were fullfill anything that give us that miracles is the God of humanity and if we can´t deny that miracles because prayer we can´t deny the existence of the law atheist just can´t complain about that not always works not that never works so if we know that there is something that giver us miracle there is something that we know that exist that we can call it just God with that simple name
The arguments for God's existence either contain fallacious reasoning, unsubstantiated premises, false premises, or any combination of the three. Also, arguments are not evidence. When you formulate an argument, even when your premises and logic are sound, you must still test the conclusion, and must directly support it with evidence. That is the difference between philosophy and science. Science tests the conclusion, and requires evidence for the conclusion.
Yup you cant test any of the ideas that they mentioned so they are useless until that happens and results come to be. We don't even have DNA of the guy let alone any solid evidence he did anything that wacko is telling us he did.
@@joshsimpsonmusic741 I could say that you’re assuming there isn’t a creator of the universe. That gets us no where though. Logically speaking, if something’s been created that means it has to come from something. Before the universe, as far as we know, there was nothing. Which means some entity had to have put this all into motion.
@@Bryan-gw6bn I’ve never said there isn’t a creator. But the time to posit the existence of something is when we have evidence for what you’re saying. Before the Big Bang could be something that we don’t quite understand. I think the best & most honest answer we can give, in that instance is simply “I don’t know”.
@@joshsimpsonmusic741 I’m not saying I know 100% this is a fact. Intelligent Design is just the best guess I have for the beginning of the universe. As for proof, how would you test something that predates and exists outside of our universe? You’d have to wait for whatever is out there to interact with us. Besides, many conclusions can logically be made without hard evidence. Thousands of years ago some people were able to figure out the water cycle. They had no instruments to prove it but they were correct. The more I learn about the complexities of the known universe the more I’m sure it had to have some kind of intelligent creator. That’s just me though.
Hey BEAT family! Today I decided to switch it up a bit. I want to help equip you to have answers ready for what skeptics may challenge you with. Here is a great set of answers from Dr. Frank Turek on the existence of God and creation.
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Frank Turek is terrible. Is that really the best you can do.
How can people say, Jesus did not exist, when He was the one that reset the years when He was born!!!
Bring him on again 🙌🏾
@@kennethray3653Ha ha ha, we have months named after mythical figures too, does that mean they existed?
Most people will accept there might have been a man called jesus, but there's absolutely no evidence of divinity, resurrection or miracles.
My belief in God didn't start with the Bible or anyone trying to convince me through apologetics. It started because I asked Him with a sincere and open heart to reveal Himself to me if He was there. Before anything else can work, one needs to open their heart and be genuinely willing to seek the truth. And once one finds it, everything will change and the Bible will become one's guide after that.
Thank you! So true.❤️
The Bible didn't convince me of God. God convinced me of the Bible.
I know God's real. I have had experiences with Him. I've heard His audible voice. If someone hasn't experienced this for themselves, it is not my fault. Someone who doubts God exists has a demon of doubt and you usually can't reason with it, it needs to be cast out. Usually if a person has the demon of doubt they have other demons too.
I did the same thing with the same result. God answers all those who truly seek him.
I think as believers we've all gone through something similar with God revealing Himself to us. A stubborn, rebellious atheist is not going to be willing to humble himself and ask that question. That's why this conversation will never end with them. Many others aren't going to ask God just for the sake of being able to keep their arguments going. And if they did have a spiritual experience with God, I still highly doubt that they would share their experience also.
Yep absolutely!
Bro fr I needed this video, I have LITERALLY NO doubt about God being real and Jesus Christ dying on the cross for our sins. Jesus is Lord👑
You should do.
WOW 👏 😮 👏 😮 AMEN 💕✋!!!
Amen❤🕊❤
Same!!!
Amen!
This vid is definitely so needed. I used to be an atheist but I thank God for helping me to see the truth.
Here is some truth. Stop watching this lying pastor. Instead, study your KJV bible and follow that instead. It will not tell you the same things this man here tells you but it will tell you the truth. If you sincerely seek the truth, you will pray about what I've said and seek God in his Word.
@@kathyk5589 another KJV Only?
@@kathyk5589 Why KJV? Other ones work too. KJV is so difficult to understand, the English used in it isn’t used today
@@kathyk5589 Allan parr is a lying pastor? I strongly disagree. And KJV is not the only acceptable version. Your allowed to your opinion, but if you don’t like him, get off his page!!
@@kelleygall3644 I prefer Nkjv it is easier
Reading these comments is like looking at a cult meeting
the talking snake and donkey cult is nothing more than voodoo dressed up as pseudo intellectual.
John 20:29.... Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” 👏❤🙏
Yes, let's use a claim as evidence for said claim. You're a smart one
Islam true religion if laughter.
Even Thomas could be presented with evidence when asked, why is it we are relegated to belief without any at all?
@@str83dge4real Excluding your rude sarcasm, what are your basis that Maritza shared bible verse as an evidence?
Yes there it is 🙏
like the song says "don't tell me God is silent when your bible is closed"
May I know the song please?
@@thisisjudith it's called "enough"
@@thisisjudith by social club misfits
@@thisisjudith enough by social club misfits
Ah! That's good!
Im a walking testimony of Gods creation. If you would’ve known me then and now you would see how REAL and amazing our GOD is! Enough said! Love you church fam!!
Placebo..
For the people in the back!
@@dylanjones268 praying for you 🙏🏼
@@dylanjones268 blup blup
Amen💯🙏
If nothing can be without a creator, then who created god?
Wrong. Everything that begins to exist, has a cause. God didn’t began to exist, he is timeless, therefore doesn’t need a creator.
@FallenAngel That’s not special pleading. Please stop misusing fallacies. Special pleading is making an exception to a general rule without justification. Everything that begins to exist has a cause. God didn’t begin to exist. Therefore God doesn’t have a cause. It’s logic 101.
@@jjjjjj3423 What did I do to convince myself exactly. It is logic 101, my conclusion followed from the previous premises. And what did I do that was special pleading? Special pleading applies to the same circumstances. Wonder why you deleted your previous comment. And I’m not sure what you were trying to say after the ellipses. What does moving the goalposts have to do with anything. Please rephrase your response to make it clear.
@@acemxe8472 radioactive decay happens at random intervals and has no cause, quantum events don't require causes. sorry you're ignorant of science apparently. frank is just making crap up, did you not notice?
@@acemxe8472 you're wrong.
For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything. ~Hebrews 3:4 (NIV)
My friend, we don't need Bible quote and references , it defeats the whole point. The skeptics need to Believe in God first. Planet excited millions of years before the Bible, yet there were believers
Prove that
@@kenkc84 they have a whole video to look at
@@colinmattsum. Watch the video?
Satan, bone cancer in babies, Ted Bundy, schizophrenia, cerebral palsy, etc.
Easy! I’m alive! That’s enough proof. I feel sorry for the non believers
Absolutely.
My ex told me we not supposed to feel sorry for non believers because they made their own choice
I feel sorry for the people that follow this lying, non biblical pastor. He is the blind leading the blind.
@@kathyk5589 how is he unbiblical? I’m out of the loop and got this video on my recommendation.
Jesus, your standards are incredibly low.
Being alive doesn't prove anything other than I am alive. It does not explain how, it does not explain why.
It certainly doesn't mean that its because of Christianity.
God is sooooo real and His existence can't be ignored 🙌
But I've been ignoring it for about fifteen years
@@colinmatts yet here you are
We don't know
Exactly, and that’s why so many nonbelievers are here watching and commenting on this video✝️ I pray they receive the love Jesus wants to give them💗
If god didn't exist we wouldn't exist.
I asked Jesus to reveal himself to me while crying in bed because I was in a domestic violence situation. I had a vision where I saw Christ. I saw his feet,his robe, The Father and Holy Spirit connected to him in wrath. I saw the devil. And I saw an angel. Since becoming a Christian atheist have poked at my belief. but I believe with all my soul. No ounce of doubt. I’ve seen so much within a short time of coming to Christ. I can go on about what I’ve seen. I gave my life to him in April after he sent an angel. I’m so grateful God revealed himself because I don’t think I would have believed without seeing and experienced what I’ve experienced. He saved my soul.
May God bless you my sister in Christ! 💝🕊🙏🏾
The only reason you asked for Jesus is because that’s what you’ve Been brainwashed to do. Your brainwashing made you become delusional. I can guarantee hindu muslim will have similar of their deities.
@@user-xs2qq7kv9w why do you care? What is it to you if I am brainwashed? Absolutely nothing! Go about your business
@@CeCe-os3ul because no one should be that dumb and arrogant.
@@user-xs2qq7kv9w get a life and stop worrying about and trying to police people’s beliefs. Take care now
Now THIS is something I needed!
It's a shame he is misinterpreting science, misquoting people and projecting claims of what atheists think as though they all do, when you have to do these things to convince your audience then you have to ask why, either he is so poorly educated he is ignorant of the real facts or he knows exactly what he is doing and deliberately misleading people to sell books etc, a religious indoctrinated audience is easy pickings for someone who knows how to get on their good side.
The arguments presented will not help you if you are trying to convince a non-believer. They only sound intelligent in a vacuum without any opposition.
@@albertfralinger2711 "Only sound good in a vacuum" I like that
heyhey cute profile ralsei is a nice character (:
@@wittykittywoes thanks!! we stan the fluffy boi :)
The Israelites made a golden calf even after witnessing God's miracles face to face.
So, when even those people who saw direct evidence denied and sinned against God, then no amount of evidence will convince an unbeliever.
Thank you for your truthful comment! I said the same.
Ah yes stories,lmao 😂
EXACTLY!!!
@@anujagarwal7992 are you Hindu or atheist?
@@inquiringminds782 Atheist
Receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit is the greatest evidence we need,
and it’s still active today and onward worldwide. :-)
The effect Christ has on people's lives is the only relevant evidence
@@douwvorster1237 it's all u need
What does the holy spirit look like and sound like, what's the voice like, masculine or feminine?
@@dmack1209
Many people find the doctrine of the Holy Spirit confusing. Is the Holy Spirit a force, a person, or something else? What does the Bible teach?
The Bible provides many ways to help us understand that the Holy Spirit is truly a person-that is, He is a personal being, rather than an impersonal thing. First, every pronoun used in reference to the Spirit is “he” not “it.” The original Greek language of the New Testament is explicit in confirming the person of the Holy Spirit. The word for “Spirit” (pneuma) is neuter and would naturally take neuter pronouns to have grammatical agreement. Yet, in many cases, masculine pronouns are found (e.g., John 15:26; 16:13-14). Grammatically, there is no other way to understand the pronouns of the New Testament related to the Holy Spirit-He is referred to as a “He,” as a person.
Matthew 28:19 teaches us to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This is a collective reference to one Triune God. Also, we are not to grieve the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 4:30). The Spirit can be sinned against (Isaiah 63:10) and lied to (Acts 5:3). We are to obey Him (Acts 10:19-21) and honor Him (Psalm 51:11).
The personhood of the Holy Spirit is also affirmed by His many works. He was personally involved in creation (Genesis 1:2), empowers God’s people (Zechariah 4:6), guides (Romans 8:14), comforts (John 14:26), convicts (John 16:8), teaches (John 16:13), restrains sin (Isaiah 59:19), and gives commands (Acts 8:29). Each of these works requires the involvement of a person rather than a mere force, thing, or idea.
The Holy Spirit’s attributes also point to His personality. The Holy Spirit has life (Romans 8:2), has a will (1 Corinthians 12:11), is omniscient (1 Corinthians 2:10-11), is eternal (Hebrews 9:14), and is omnipresent (Psalm 139:7). A mere force could not possess all of these attributes, but the Holy Spirit does.
And the personhood of the Holy Spirit is affirmed by His role as the third Person of the Godhead. Only a being who is equal to God (Matthew 28:19) and possesses the attributes of omniscience, omnipresence, and eternality could be defined as God.
In Acts 5:3-4, Peter referred to the Holy Spirit as God, stating, “Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God.” Paul likewise referred to the Holy Spirit as God in 2 Corinthians 3:17-18, stating, “Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.”
The Holy Spirit is a person, as Scripture makes clear. As such, He is to be revered as God and serves in perfect unity with Father and Son to lead us in our spiritual lives.
@Loving one another
I though we already went through this decontextualized analogy towards God?
The Bible describes God as holy (Isaiah 6:3), righteous (Psalm 7:11), just (Deuteronomy 32:4), and sovereign (Daniel 4:17-25). These attributes tell us the following about God: (1) God is capable of preventing evil, and (2) God desires to rid the universe of evil. So, if both of these are true, why does God allow evil? If God has the power to prevent evil and desires to prevent evil, why does He still allow evil? Perhaps a practical way to look at this question would be to consider some alternative ways people might have God run the world:
1) God could change everyone’s personality so that they cannot sin. This would also mean that we would not have a free will. We would not be able to choose right or wrong because we would be “programmed” to only do right. Had God chosen to do this, there would be no meaningful relationships between Him and His creation.
Instead, God made Adam and Eve innocent but with the ability to choose good or evil. Because of this, they could respond to His love and trust Him or choose to disobey. They chose to disobey. Because we live in a real world where we can choose our actions but not their consequences, their sin affected those who came after them (us). Similarly, our decisions to sin have an impact on us and those around us and those who will come after us.
2) God could compensate for people’s evil actions through supernatural intervention 100 percent of the time. God would stop a drunk driver from causing an automobile accident. God would stop a lazy construction worker from doing a substandard job on a house that would later cause grief to the homeowners. God would stop a father who is addicted to drugs or alcohol from doing any harm to his wife, children, or extended family. God would stop gunmen from robbing convenience stores. God would stop high school bullies from tormenting the brainy kids. God would stop thieves from shoplifting. And, yes, God would stop terrorists from flying airplanes into buildings.
While this solution sounds attractive, it would lose its attractiveness as soon as God’s intervention infringed on something we wanted to do. We want God to prevent horribly evil actions, but we are willing to let “lesser-evil” actions slide-not realizing that those “lesser-evil” actions are what usually lead to the “greater-evil” actions. Should God only stop actual sexual affairs, or should He also block our access to pornography or end any inappropriate, but not yet sexual, relationships? Should God stop “true” thieves, or should He also stop us from cheating on our taxes? Should God only stop murder, or should He also stop the “lesser-evil” actions done to people that lead them to commit murder? Should God only stop acts of terrorism, or should He also stop the indoctrination that transformed a person into a terrorist?
3) Another choice would be for God to judge and remove those who choose to commit evil acts. The problem with this possibility is that there would be no one left, for God would have to remove us all. We all sin and commit evil acts (Romans 3:23; Ecclesiastes 7:20; 1 John 1:8). While some people are more evil than others, where would God draw the line? Ultimately, all evil causes harm to others.
Instead of these options, God has chosen to create a “real” world in which real choices have real consequences. In this real world of ours, our actions affect others. Because of Adam’s choice to sin, the world now lives under the curse, and we are all born with a sin nature (Romans 5:12). There will one day come a time when God will judge the sin in this world and make all things new, but He is purposely “delaying” in order to allow more time for people to repent so that He will not need to condemn them (2 Peter 3:9). Until then, He IS concerned about evil. When He created the Old Testament laws, the goal was to discourage and punish evil. He judges nations and rulers who disregard justice and pursue evil. Likewise, in the New Testament, God states that it is the government’s responsibility to provide justice in order to protect the innocent from evil (Romans 13). He also promises severe consequences for those who commit evil acts, especially against the "innocent" (Mark 9:36-42).
In summary, we live in a real world where our good and evil actions have direct consequences and indirect consequences upon us and those around us. God’s desire is that for all of our sakes we would obey Him that it might be well with us (Deuteronomy 5:29). Instead, what happens is that we choose our own way, and then we blame God for not doing anything about it. Such is the heart of sinful man. But Jesus came to change men’s hearts through the power of the Holy Spirit, and He does this for those who will turn from evil and call on Him to save them from their sin and its consequences (2 Corinthians 5:17). God does prevent and restrain some acts of evil. This world would be MUCH WORSE were God not restraining evil. At the same time, God has given us the ability to choose good and evil, and when we choose evil, He allows us, and those around us, to suffer the consequences of evil. Rather than blaming God and questioning God on why He does not prevent all evil, we should be about the business of proclaiming the cure for evil and its consequences-Jesus Christ!
Why are you depicting the critic of being ugly and/or wrong for asking for proof outside of The Bible? That's a PERFECTLY reasonable argument.
I’ve been talking with an old friend who lost his faith, he’s been telling me evolution makes more sense than creation - this video showed up.. God’s timing is perfect.
Look up Ken Ham. The founder of Creation Museum/Ark Encounter. He gives a lot answers. The ministry is Answers 1:1
@@ErA-el1je love Ken Ham, I watched his full debate with Bill Nye 2 times! But I’ll look into what you mentioned 😊
@@alexanderthomas645
Ken Ham is a reality denying buffoon who relies on a strawman of the scientific method to try to exclude all the evidence that he is wrong on a technicality that doesn't really exist.
It's because the evidence for evolution is overwhelming and creationism is demonstrably false.
@@ErA-el1je
Look up "the clergy letter project" and "Biologos". And Ken Miller and Finding Darwin's God.
This is amazing!
Nature gal here and the WORD says men are without excuse cause creation is sho nuff evidence of a Creator 🌎 Glory to HIM!
All Glory belongs to him🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
Prove it was created..
@@dylanjones268 well the universe is finite (not infinite), and theres this thing called the law of causality and thermodynamics. I suggest you look those up, and maybe it could change your mind (and before you reply to this comment, PLEASE actually look it up and read a couple articles before responding) :)
And I just realised you said "prove it was CREATED". That's the equivalent of looking at a painting and saying, "prove that was painted", or looking at a buffet and saying "prove that was cooked".
@@takiyah0526 So in response to my prove it you argue claims you and other theists have made which also require proof and then you go off on a tangent about causality and thermodynamics and how I should educate myself... the thing about paintings, we 'know' who created them. Buffets, we know who cooked the food. Prove your claim or stop stating it as fact. Imagine if we all just made claims and everyone was forced to accept it without evidence. We'd be in a pretty messed up situation, don't you think?
@@dylanjones268 true, it would be messed up, but we, Christian's, have evidence. We wont just blindly believe something.
GOD is real! I used to walk this world "like a demon" but now.... im "One" of God's strongest Soldiers!
@@loveoneanother1932 thank you, bro/sis
Ok go fight off poltergeist.
@@ilovenoone2541 one day but they're fallen angels (deamon) not poltergeist..... poltergeist and ghost are human terms to hide behind the truth.. but you sound like you walk with them....be strong and ask Jesus Christ into your life, and youll find the truth
@@gubrandrofsureyjar6894 ;-; what!?
So ghost/poltergeist aren't real?
Hmmm no god is confusing.
@@ilovenoone2541 and you sound ignorant....
God exist, say what you will.
But He was here at the beginning, and He’ll be here at the END.
quoting Hawking out of context is pretty pathetic. And it is a lie to say everyone admits the universe had a beginning. Most physicists now do not say that. Apologetics = lies.
@@scambammer6102 so you hold that everything came from nothing?
@@morganlife7787 AARRRGGHH!!! [pulls hair out]
@@morganlife7787 Religious people : "You can't create something from nothing!"
Non religious people: Then who/what created God? "
Religious people: " Nothing! God was created from nothing! "
@@WDE1121 wrong, God has always been.
That’s the EASIEST thing to do and so many people flat don’t want to acknowledge the facts….SMH…
You seem over confident.
@@thehemulen8478 …..That’s called knowing the TRUTH. It’s easy when you know what’s real and what’s not. Fortunately, I know the truth very well and I have no doubts about Jesus Christ.
We are living in an age where "God created us" is considered "crazy", "unscientific", and "illogical"; and "Extraterrestrial aliens seeded life" is all of sudden "sane", "scientific" and "logical". It is outright refusal to acknowledge the truth. The Bible prophesied that time will come when everyone will undoubtedly know God exists (during the 7-years tribulation, aka time of Judgement). Sadly, most will choose to curse and fight against God instead of trust in Him. Bottom line is, no matter how many evidences you present now, and God eventually reveals Himself (Second coming of Jesus Christ, and after the Millennial Kingdom), many will refuse to accept and come to Christ. They will choose to fight against God instead. Tragic if you ask me.
1 CORINTHIANS 1:18
KJ21
For the preaching of the cross is foolishness to those who perish; but unto us who are saved, it is the power of God.
@@bluemarble2458 1 CORINTHIANS 1:18
KJ21
For the preaching of the cross is foolishness to those who perish; but unto us who are saved, it is the power of God.
Chillleeeee even before I knew him he was looking out. God has come through time and time again in my darkest moments. Thank you Jesus.
Nice
I knew of God but didn’t know Him but because things wasn’t going good in my life I deny heaven and hell didn’t read a bible or pray but I didn’t deny there is a creator. Because I said to God I don’t deny you but I deny heaven and hell I just believe we are born then we die and more people just populate the earth.
But one day God show me there is a hell and heaven that’s almost 4 years ago I read my Bible everyday talk to God everyday I can’t get enough of Him and His Word. I found Peace joy Faith and His Love even through the midst of this chaotic world. God has totally change who I was to who I am now. All Praise Honor and Esteem to our Sovereign. Bless He is.
I sent this video to my atheist brother. I pray it ministers to him.
How it go?
Maybe leave your brother alone. You could probably learn a lot from him.
@@satan6412 learn what? How to say God don't exist?
Doing that just proves Christians are fragile minded, which they always have been. I don't think he sends you vids on why you should be an atheist. Does he?
@@Machodave2020 how to read a science book and how to stop believing in magic.
*"My god is spaceless, timeless, and immaterial"*
In other words "my god is non-existent." Brilliant.
*"Hawking said if the universe were different it wouldn't be the same!"*
Again, brilliant.
*"If it isn't wrong to murder, morality is subjective"*
Murder is BY DEFINITION a killing we define as wrong. Meaning what we decide to be "murder" *_IS_* subjective.
Turek has been described as an intelligent apologist. I see the apologetics... when do we get to the intelligent part?
Exactly my thoughts what a complicated way to say doesnt exist
“My God is space less, timeless, and immaterial” in other words, “my God exists outside the confines of His creation. He isn’t His creation and isn’t apart of His creation.”
Is morality is indeed subjective, then how do we punish murderers who believe that they are right in killing others?
@@FaithMatini How can you differentiate between a thing that exists and is *"spaceless, timeless, and immaterial"* and something that doesn't exist? Not make a claim about it, but differentiate between those two options.
Again, murder is *BY DEFINITION* the wrongful (as determined by each society) killing of another. We, as a society, decide what forms of killing are wrong. This is not difficult.
@@devb9912 by its creation. A painter is not part of the painting. Whatever creates something has to be outside of that thing to create it. Creation cannot create itself. Matter cannot create itself.
Society doesn’t determine that murder is wrong. There is a higher being or thing that exists outside of society that acts as an anchor for truth. For example, when Hitler was persecuted, the laws used to persecute him existed outside his society where it seemed like what he was doing was right. Same with punishing other countries for war crimes. Who determines that these people are wrong if morality is subjective?
@@FaithMatini muderers surely dont think murder is a wrong thing
Thats how subjectivity works
Humans are social creatures we depend on each other to survive
Also if you was to push the objectivity agenda think about war and how certain individuals will be regarded heros for mass murdering
Still on the murder subject, do you know who the biggest murderer in the history of murder would be ? The God of the bible.
I caught the Holy Ghost for the first time in my life a few months ago at a Bible Study. I can’t even explain how that felt, I literally felt Gods love, it’s a indescribable overflow of love that’s hard to explain. I’m 32 years old and I have no shame in sharing this. Those who have felt that spirit before know what I mean.
Amen it almost a felt like a cozy campfire in your heart...
Peace, Love, Joy. That is what what you felt. Something people work so hard for their entire lives to achieve:
Big house and fancy cars = Security and insurance is now a concern
Money in the bank = new god occupies the heart
Business ventures = no time and lack of sleep
Vacations = escaping boredom, results to all sorts of immorality
House = Not a home
Materials = continuous hoarding, eventually keeps one in bondage
Peace = Never
Joy = short-lived
Love = only when there is money in the picture
Seek God Almighty!
Mine was like electricity throughout the body like I was so excited I was jumping out of my skin literally 💗🕊️
It feels like fire to me. It's an overwhelming feeling!
The true evidence of the Holy Spirit being in one's life has nothing to do with feelings because feelings are fickle, they come and go! They are like the waves of the sea. The true holy spirit comes into our lives to reveal the truth to us and to sanctify us by it. The holy spirit also gives us the power to resist evil and love the truth! It's not some warm fuzzy feeling in your stomach or some electrifying feeling that envelops your body: a demon can do that too! The true test is whether you're obeying God's commandments. Are you forgiving your enemies even when you don't "FEEL" like doing it? Are you returning a tenth of your income to God even when you dont "FEEL" like you would have enough left to pay your bills? Are you resisting the lusts of the flesh and looking in the opposite direction when a naked woman, who is not your wife, is walks by? Are you patient and praying with those who are struggling with a particular sin or are you harsh and cold toward them? These are the true questions we need to be asking ourselves when we talk about being Spirit-filled.
This ministry is such a blessing!! Especially for new believers! God bless you Allen
Exactly. I used to spend my Baby days watching Allen 😂
@@believer431 is parents are still same or they have also changed by times. Something's with value is unchangeable.
@Timothah Molone are you really using the watchmaker fallacy? Heres an interesting thought: How do you know that a watch has a maker? Buy that i mean how do we as humans know that watches has a maker? Is it because we have seen watches beeing made by humans and we can talk to these humans? When did we do this with our universe?
The fact that we woke up once more is Gods MERCY..
🤣
Not really, it just means that you took care of yourself enough to not have high blood pressure and get an aneurysm and bleed out
Has nothing to do with god
and maybe also taking good care of your body and mind. because many other people who don't believe in god also woke up the same day
is this the same god who drowned everybody on the planet just because they disagree with him? the same god who said "thou shalt not kill" then writes a book of instructions on who and how to kill folks (canaanites for one)? if god existed he is immoral and a dictator and you're crazy to look up to this psychopath.
Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
John 20:29
Blessed are the gullible in other words
And yet Thomas who asked for evidence of the existence of the respawned Jesus demigod not only is claimed to have physical evidence but also got to finger his holes.
If those who are blessed to have believed but not seen, then good for them. How about showing the evidence as the bible claims to do. Those who want evidence can get blessing points in other ways such as giving money to the poor, preaching etc. So there's no loss in asking for evidence of a claim. In fact it's biblical.
Amen✝️🙏🏽
Gullible are they that have not seen yet believe.
Faith and belief without evidence, is gullibility.
This quote always makes me think of Jehovah's witness and the golden plates that nobody ever saw... They do have testimony, tho.
The power of Gods word is what convinced me of the truth of Gods word!
Never argue with a fool, they will drag you to their level, and beat you with experience.
Psalm 14 and psalm 53 the first verses .....There is no God....
I sometimes tell this to mocking atheïsts. :" you are right, it is even written in the bible that there is no God, even twice ! Check psalm 14 and 53 the first verses....there is no God !
@@edk484 Well if the fool gets it, what is your excuse?
@@jusfugly the "fool" does NOT get it. That is why he is a fool. Got it ?
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, lest you become like him.
~Proverbs 26:4
@@timg2088 And that is why the Bible is so good at conning people. You get stupid quotes like that to say so you don't have to think!
How do you know that it is a fool you are answering unless you have engaged with them? It is also a quote that both side in can use and so ensures that there is no discussion which suits religions they hate questions.
I have really enjoyed every steps in this conversation,,,,,God bless you sir,, you're more than a blessing to this generation
his arguments are just real bad.
To the title of this video, PROVE THERE ISNT A GOD ,
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool."
Voltaire
The 3 greatest desires of Man: To sin as he pleases. To give no accountability for his sinful actions to a Holy creator . To not face the possibility of punishment for all eternity in a fiery Hell.
who made man defective like this?....was it your god lmao.....when a creation isn't perfect..........the only one who can be blamed is the creator
GOD is Love, so much that he gave us free choice and then died for our bad choices, so we could be made perfect with his redemption Jesus Christ.
@@vladimirstolov9324 God takes full credit and responsibility for his creation. You can't have blame without a creator.
@@rickm5853 cool, there can be no sin then, we are just doing as he programmed
@@vladimirstolov9324 He gave us free will.
“ all heaven declares the glory of the risen Lord”
The FOOL says in his heart that there is no God. Psalm 14:1. Don't kill the messenger please.
No the FOOL is the Person you cannot work out why this passage is in the Bible!!!!!!Because the Bible has to attest God Exists Because if God Doesn't Exist then who wrote the Bible!!!!! Man did and Men can lie and cheat and Distort to serve their own Ends Try again!!!
Psalm 14:1, for anyone that's wondering.
Well.. That's my sister then..
You should give the full passage to really drive home how foolish and dishonest you are.
Ok If I Write my Bible my Revelation from Christ and it Doesn't match Yours Would you follow my Revelation form Christ?
There is no evidence for Jesus's resurrection. Sorry, Turek... you never presented any and changed the subject immediately.
I love Jesus
Means i love his word
the word give life to the dead self
From past i am buly
now i love to encourage
One day your knee will bow and your tongue will confess that HE is Lord!
“If you declare with your mouth “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). Now is the time to accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior. Obey His commands and repent of your sins because Jesus is coming back soon. Tomorrow isn’t promised.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:16
"Obey His commands and repent of your sins because Jesus is coming back soon." What 'sins' what crime have I personal committed that is deserving of unending torture?
The Great Joy is when we have the WORD OF GOD. We can see the things as it were from GOD'S point of view. Look Around and be Distressed, Look Within and be Depressed, Look At JESUS and be at Rest.
@@nyc21282 Psalm 14:1
He that endure till the end, shall be saved
As a born again Christian of 60 years, GOD has NEVER told me personally OR in HIS WORD that I have to PROVE to ANYBODY that HE EXISTS. So there. The Bible tells it all.
1 Peter 3:15b- Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect
I find it crazy these ppl that don't believe he existed yet they try so hard to disprove someone existed that they don't believe existed.
God is our provider and sustainer! It’s that simple, everyday we wake up and have a way to provide for our families is proof (for me anyway) that there’s is an Almighty God! Life is precious and our recognition of Him is too 💗
Intelligent design by a superior creator.
Amen Helen!
@Hemlock Cocktail You’re telling us you are
Hemlock Cocktail the average theist don’t usually spend time antagonizing nor coming up with rebuttals for this ever going argument, it doesn’t give them satisfaction to “checkmate” strangers and use them as a verbal punching bag for their own enjoyment; unlike you of course
@@aniyhaforgs8517 well said 👏 perfect description! Thank you 😊
Humans have not discovered all there is to discover. Just because we do not understand something yet does not mean it will never be explained via logical explanations. People used to think all types of events that happen on Earth were the result of some higher power, but now that we have simple explanations for these events, no one thinks that.
“Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning.” - C.S Lewis
Why? Can you justify this statement?
It's so true, these atheists love God because all they can do is hate Him and attack his children. That's what their life is about
That's a very ignorant misunderstanding of the atheist position. The universe doesn't care what you believe
@@onethdasanayake3689 You can't hate what you do not believe
@@colinmatts You misunderstood the quote
I needed this. I prayed for this 🥺🥺🥺🥺 I was at a stage where, I douted, I hated myself for doubting and even in my doubt, I prayed for clarity and not to get lost in that dout🥺
There is a great video by Voddie Baucham called "why I believe the Bible" and he gives historical and archaeological factual evidence on how and why the Bible is real is true and can be trusted I highly recommend it.
God is with you
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Doubt helps you separate fiction from truth. The Christian god is fiction. Truth is, we don't know how the universe came about
@@markorbit4752 You say the Christian God is fiction, what is your reasoning for this?
Just look at the fine tuning of the universe, the fine tuning of man, and the fine tuning of life. Consider the bacterial flagellum. It is described as one of the most efficient machines in the universe. This microscopic organelle is essentially a perfectly designed outboard motor - complete with a stator, u-joint, drive shaft, environmental sensors, electromagnet, and water-cooled motor. This rotating motor consists of a number of necessary parts in a particular organized way, any part without which the machine will not work. If each part had to result from an individual separate evolutionary change, that part on its own, would have had to provide an evolutionary advantage. However, the part independent of the complete mechanism, would have not itself provided any benefit - if it can even be believed that the u-joint for example would have evolved for no particular reason, by random chance. Instead, that part would not be passed on to the next generation by replication. The flagellum could not be built over generations incrementally, in steps. Natural selection would eliminate any characteristic in successive generations, short of a complete functioning flagellum mechanism. Integrated complexity of the organelle presents an insurmountable obstacle to the fundamental claims of evolution. In other words, there is no way that the bacterial flagellum could have ever existed if it wasn't created by the hand of God. We can talk DNA next. What an absolute miracle in terms of its compact and highly efficient informational encoding. Just two examples out of millions upon millions upon millions that glorify God's mighty work.
@@snackler6102 It is the forest for the trees. A more complex process, design, etc. directly points to the hands of God. Consider the following and their cumulative probabilities if they were to happen by chance: fine tuning of the universe + the fine tuning of nature + the fine tuning of man + the Bible which clearly articulates creation (and when considering its 100's of prophecies that have all come true much less the sheer probability for just a handful of those to come true) + the history of the Jewish people, God's people (Israel is the only nation in the history of the earth that bears the same name, inhabits the same land, speaks the same language, and worships the same God that it did for over 3,000 years and couple that with all the nations over the millennia that have come against them that have ended up on the bone pile coupled with them being the only nation/group of people in the history of the world that have been exiled from their land and returned, which they did twice as predicted in the Bible hundreds and thousands of years before it occurred). The forest for the trees. Only God can orchestrate such things.
What is funnier is when you take out the “joint” ( losing genetic code) it’s the bubonic bacteria.
We lose genes not gain them.
@@hangtownranger gene duplications exist 🗿
Much of "Design" in nature is quite frankly incompetent Many of the Structures in the Human body where Designed by a Cretin if God is a Designer he's not very Good
@@leebennett1821 The created critiquing the Creator. Super computers still can't match the processing complexity and efficiency of the human brain. Scientists far greater than you and me still haven't figured out the human body much less the universe. In actuality, we as a collective human race probably understand less than one tenth of one percent of creation. Don't ignore the Bible and human history and the history of the Jewish people. See my response to "type writer". As the saying goes, there are no atheists in hell. Translation, they now know God. We are all just one heart beat away from that meeting. Unfortunately if Jesus is not your Lord and Savior it will be too late.
Thank God! Literally, I was about to turn Atheist bro from lack of evidence. I needed this video so badly, that little bit of the Holy Spirit that was still in me blessed me! I was crying because I thought there was no God/Jesus. God bless you man!
this isn't evidence this is just arguments there is a difference we show evidence of something you shift that explanation to something else without evidence
Bookmark pls reply to my comment so i can come back here
Bro. I suggest you to watch zakir Naik video 'the science and god'
There's a great video by pastor and professor Voddie Baucham called why I believe the Bible and he gives an hour long sermon on all of the historical archaeological evidence of the Bible's validity if you're interested it's a great video.
@@Tenite reply
I’ve really needed this, I’ve had so many conversations with people who have said not to use the Bible because it’s biased towards Christianity, so this really helped
Maybe this will help too
ruclips.net/p/PL8SQZ6trh2gOTgZQ6_WRuomV0AH-FmGo_
@@gu3sswh075 dang your just like me, except I have a 300+ playlist on the spiritual realm, real Christianity, and ex new Agers and ex witches and ex atheist and ex satanist
My evidence would simply be I’m alive. I didn’t wake myself up nor did an alarm clock. It’s because of the love of God and the grace of God it’s because of the finished work Jesus did on the cross. That’s enough proof for me.
My Pastor would say "cease to exist (not in a derogatory way), then try to recreate yourself using none of God's already existing materials and let us know how that works for you."
A full bladder usually wakes me up. But simply saying, "I wake up every morning" isn't proof of god.
how does your life prove a God? we have circadian rhythms, there’s nothing magical or mystical about that.
@@alady878 your preacher would beg the question, which is to say he would assume the conclusion, by even calling it God's materials when there is no demonstration that God had anything to do with it.
Nature, the universe and just the way our bodies work is enough to know someone amazingly powerful thought all this up.
Ever heard of evolution?
@@colinmatts Did you watch the video?
@@JustWonderingMg I've heard Turek's arguments before. He knows as much about science and evolution as I do. But I don't have a religious agenda. Also, I was raised Christian. I don't need apologists to tell me what the theology says. None of these arguments are evidence for God. God needs to be demonstrated empirically. Not argued into existence
@@colinmatts "God needs to be demonstrated empirically." Says who?
Are you an empiricist? Because you do realize that you can't see, taste, smell, touch, or hear the laws of logic, yet you rely on this scientifically unprovable assumption in order to even attempt to reason?
By your logic, the laws of logic do not exist. Since the laws of logic do not exist, the words you typed and your demand for empirical demonstration do not even mean anything. They're as coherent as "garblesnargles, therefore unicorns Biden."
Oh, and the person and work of Jesus Christ were all empirical demonstrations of God. I mean, He is literally God incarnate, so....
@@juilianbautista4067 A God that can interact with our reality and alter it needs to be demonstrated empirically. How else would you know it's real?
The laws of logic are a human construction. They are rules humans invented to make sense of the world we live in, our relationship to it, and, our relationship to each other.
How do you know Jesus was "God incarnate"? Because some old book says so?
I've noticed that even accomplished theologians that are incredibly well versed in their field of study, when you filter through all of their rhetoric you realise they don't have any better arguments than your regular/average bible believing Christian, they just sound better because they've learned how to obfuscate and hide the fact that they don't have good reasons to believe in a God they can't prove exists.
Refute the proof he provided.
@@acemxe8472 "proof" you mean the claims he provided without proving anything. There was a whole bunch of gobbledygook he spouted but I'll just talk about his first claim. He said that the universe had a start, so therefore it needed something to start it. He then slotted God into thst void without actually providing any evidence that a God existed to start it off. Also the amount of specal pleading he was doing was laughable. His logic, the universe needed a beginning but my God didn't. That isn't being logically consistent. Just a whole bunch of claims he didn't substantiate, typical Christian
@@acemxe8472 How long have you been hanging round this video? Do you do this every day?
@@d-fenz Proof google definition- evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or truth of a statement.
And he did that. You do know that when he said the universe had a beginning, he argued for that cause being God.... so you make no sense.
@@mrchoon2010 Not sure. But it seems like I see you here a lot as well.
So they can have "faith" that there are other universes (unseen)but have a hard time having "faith" that there is a God? 🤔 Make it make sense
I once heard an Atheist physicist say that belief in a multiverse is religious belief! (She didn't believe in it, but doesn't have an answer for why the universe exists, either. But at least she was honest.)
most people believe in aliens with noooo facts or evidence or anything. just scientific speculation. it’s wild
I hope to provide some positive discussion, to clear up some misconceptions that many theists have about athiests. In my experience, my perspective is quite common, much more so than simply asserting the multiverse.
My perspective is that nobody knows why the universe appears to have started when it did. There are a number of theories, such as big crunch/bang cycles, multiverse theory, existing because it does, and of course the theory that god created it. But there isn't actually evidence of any of these, so why should I believe any of them?
@@blakebrockhaus347 If you're a strict evidentialist then that is a logical conclusion but it seems deeply unsatisfactory to be left with a radical agnosticism or skepticism. Of course, there's no proof, but I think we can reason from the agreed facts of science to metaphysical explanations. e.g. The evidence is that the universe had a beginning (and AFAIK, no physical explanation explains it), the universe appears to be finely tuned, information is embedded into nature - these aren't really in question. I think the God hypothesis seems makes better sense of all of this than alternative explanations in the absence of evidence. It is reasonable, if not proven. Thoughts?
@@Alarcahu you made two points, I'll discuss them separately. Also, I genuinely want to thank you for also trying to have a productive conversation in RUclips comments.
I do find it unsatisfying to not know how the universe started. It is a mystery that I don't think we'll truly solve. But I'm not going to try and change the universe to suit my personal wants and needs.
Your second point is known as the teleological, or watchmakers argument. And it is indeed probably the strongest apologetics argument, however I still don't find it convincing. This world is indeed extremely well suited to us, and to all other life. It is true that there was an extraordinarily narrow path to the point we are at today. But the argument makes an assumption that the universe HAD to come to this point, which I disagree with. I think that a more likely explanation is that through natural selection over the course of millions of years, we adapted to be well suited to the existing environment, not the other way around. It's even possible that the physical constants arose from the conditions of the universe.
Give evidence God exists without the Bible:
GOD is like oxygen you can’t see him but you need him to survive🙏🏾
How is that evidence for god? You are redefining oxygen as god. Ridiculous
Every time I see Allen Parr, I have to remember he’s not Denzel Washington 😂
now that you mentioned it , i cannot unsee it 😭
I've been thinking the same lol
Lmaooo great can’t unsee it now
OUT OF CONTEXT.
8:23 Frank really felt comfortable saying that knowing the man is dead and not able to confront him but debating him face to face, Frank was a good little boy who took the verbal whipping.
If I can believe that everything created came from a cosmological accident that produced a nearly infinite number of biological, mathematical, physical, etc attributes being just right-then I have no problem believing there is an intelligent Creator.
Praise the Lord for His omniscience and sovereignty! I hope everyone here is blessed with an opportunity for God to be glorified in his or her life today!
Just right for what? Most of the universe is empty and devoid of life. This argument also fails to consider the possibility of other universes that could have failed.
Omnipotent creator creates universe for life-------->99.9999999% universe hostile to life,lmao some omnipotence 😂 and "intelligence" 😂
@@anujagarwal7992 Exactly 😂😂
7th Angel, Amen!!
@Hemlock Cocktail Not necessary to say that, there is no need for insults.
In the Beginning(time) God Created the Heavens(space) and the Earth(matter).”
I thiught something cannot come from nothing? 🤣 🤣 🤣
I also like that it says "the heavens". Implying there is a plural. Such as th atmosphere, "space" and heaven.
In 6 days?
@@mikechiello We have got an immortal God who's been around before time was created. What makes you think that it's so impossible for him to do it im 6 days(we don't know how old the earth is so he could have done it over a certain amount if time since the Bible Bible 1000 years Is 1 day for the lord, which can support that time has existed longer. However is it so impossible for a deity so powerful to create time and matter to make a green rock with life on it.
@@mikechiello a thousand years is as 1 day to the Most High
It’s conversations like these that remind me of God’s greatness 🙌🏿 .
Amen!!!
'Simple statement', yet absolutely beautiful.
you mean conversations that have flawed thinking? One easy question: How do you know that our universe is finely tuned? by something beein finely tuned implies that tuning in the first place is possible. Could our universe be any different? This makes the fine tuning argument baseless
Show me your god..... Have him show himself to me. 25 years of being a Christian and lying to people is too much I'm done.get your head out of your ass
Someone: "Prove your god is real."
Madlad: *BANG*
Madlad: "Say hello for me."
Best way to do it, right there...
The heavens declare the creator
WoW just kill the nonbeliever. What a "loving" Christian of you.
@@Badmedicine88 Yeah I know, best way to do it
@@jackmurphy3940 youre sick in the mind
Going outside is enough evidence because there is no creation unless there is a builder.
You can't prove creation though
For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything. ~Hebrews 3:4 (NIV)
@@forTHEHIGHESTname So then who built your god? Mega God?
@@forTHEHIGHESTname Amen
@@TheRealCatof no He’s just always been. He is eternal He has no beginnings neither end he’s always been. If someone were to create him then he wouldn’t be God.
I got baptized in 1990. I backslide after a while but I have never stopped loving God and Jesus Christ. I have been through a lot. A couple of near death experiences. I even lost my 18 year old daughter to lupus 2 years ago. But of late He has been calling me back to Him and I have answered the call. I have realized that even though I know about God and love him I have never really given Him and His Son a chance to really work in my life but now I'm finally doing it. I am very grateful for the chances that he has given me. People God is real. His Son is real. Please I beg of u accept Jesus Christ and give your life over to him. Please. He is the only way. Look at what is going on in in the world today. Scientists go on probability. My God is a surety.
That’s awesome! But remember Jesus and God are the same so there’s no need to separate the two
@@serenapalmer1220They are the s1me in essence, divinuty, diety, but not in personhood. The they are not one another in person. Amen.
@@serenapalmer1220 The Biblical evidence is this:
The Father is not the Son.
The Son is not the Spirit.
The Spirit is not the Father.
The Father is God.
The Son is God.
The Spirit is God.
There is one and only one God.
God existed outside of time. Creating the universe created time. God used His creative power to exist in time as three Persons (consciousnesses). Each Person is fully God. Each voluntarily took on a unique role without altering the nature of any. In addition, the Person in the Son role added human nature to His divine nature.
God is not a deceptive quick-change artist who morphs between personalities and titles.
They sure try really hard to dispute something that "isn't real". Without God, we wouldn't have a measure of good or evil.
Yes we would.
Easy as that... indeed
@@MsOla-zz3dd
Exept that it's wrong.
@@thehemulen8478 No you wouldn't. You would have an arbitrary meter stick that only comes from inside you. Consensus doesn't define reality.
@@douglasmcnay644
But you have the same problem. You are subjectively deciding that the subjective opinion of the god you subjectively believe exists is the measure.
There was nothing that said the measure needed to be objective and yours is just as subjective as ours.
And that's all "good" amd "evil" are. Expressions of preference.
Allen, how dare you sit there and act like white southern slave owners were not majority christian. And how dare you sit there and act like they didnt use the bible to justify slavery.
You embarrass me.
I ALWAYS LOVE TO SAY: WE AS CHRISTIANS ARE SAVED BY FAITH NOT BY PROOF❗💛🌻🤗
Amen
Then you cant say its the truth, cuz for that you need proof, if you want any of it to be reliable.
@@Solutionsarejustcompromises you're stupid because Jesus told his disciples after his ressurection because you seen you believe BLESSED are those who have not seen but BELIEVES. There's plenty of scriptures to back her comment you're just ignorant
@@Solutionsarejustcompromises We are saved by God's grace and faith. However, there are arguments for God that proves God's existence.
@@Solutionsarejustcompromises I have my proof life is my proof. Who put the clouds in the sky the stars the moon the rain that falls from about if there is no sun or rain we would all die of starvation and thirst. I watch two birds build a nest out of dirt it look like a basket I was so amaze. The baby birds are now hatch while one parent watch the babies the other one go for food. Eventually they both flew away but one comes at night and stay with the babies.
A woman carry a whole human in her body and the baby are being fed as the mom eats and when the baby is born the mom produce the food for that baby in her body if it’s not a God then I don’t know what to say.
My sis and her husband have horses and anytime there is a new pony all the other hoses surround the mom and child so no one can get close to the baby pony. Nature teaches me a lot about the Creator. Some call him God , YAHUAH some say Jehovah , Yahweh. I’m not quite sure what’s the real name but I don’t like God because it spell dog backwards so I’m not comfortable with that name plus God is just a title. My opinion it’s between me and my Maker.
New Allen Parr video: appears in my lock screen
Me: immediately clicks
Ikr?!
Atheism or science will NEVER be able to prove these two things - the beginning of the universe and the morality of the human heart. The Bible answers both of these in Genesis 1:1 and Romans 2:14-15, respectively.
Wrong, everything about Genesis is wrong. You are completely wrong & no doubt you can't see why.
@@paulfell4962 see if this helps
@@paulfell4962 ruclips.net/p/PL8SQZ6trh2gOTgZQ6_WRuomV0AH-FmGo_
@@gu3sswh075 No, that's just utter nonsense. I was always told as a child it was wrong to assume your going to heaven. Seriously how do you know any of this is true? If your God is omniscient why didn't he just kill Satan instead of the millions he kills in the O.T.
If your God is so wonderful why does he appear in India & rid the country of Hinduism or tell the world Islam is wrong & Christianity is true? Instead all we get is a load of old tosh from a book full of bigotry & hatred.
Morality is actually explained very well by evolution. Groups of people that work together survive and pass genes better than individuals or dysfunctional groups. Kindness, empathy, and selflessness all help the group function more cohesively
"When you think of a spaceless, timeless, immaterial, powerful, personal and intelligent cause, who do you think of?"
I'm thinking of a hyper-evolved being who unshackled itself from the limitations of its physical body through science.
Therefore, Doctor Manhattan created the universe. Checkmate, Christian.
Thank you Allen for this conversation with Frank Turek. Thank you, Frank; this is so needed to speak with non-believers.
They didn’t speak with any nonbelievers in this video.
@@jimurban5367 Do they ever??
How has it worked for you so far??
Without even opening the Bible, existence of Israel, despite what the nation has experienced throughout the history, is the living proof that God exists and God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob is the true God of the universe. Despite all these supernatural hate against the nation, Israel will forever continue to exist, because Israel is God's chosen nation, and God will protect them.
Israel is God's chosen PEOPLE, not nation. The tribes were scattered throughout the nations. As believers in Messiah, we are GRATED INTO Israel. There is no Jew or Gentile, we are all grafted into the commonwealth of Israel. We are Israel, God's people. We are spiritual Israel, it's not a piece of land/real estate.
@@jasont5427 Nation is a collection of people.Think you should've known that.
@@g--br1el985 No need for your sarcastic, back handed comment. The USA is a collection of people too aka a "nation". It can be taken either way.
@@jasont5427 Replacement Theology (aka supersessionism) is biblically inconsistent. Through Jesus Christ, we are all children of God, but God makes clear distinction between Jews and Gentiles in the Bible. God has distinct promises for Jews and Gentiles. Gentiles are the main focus during the church age, but as we enter the tribulation (end of the church age), God's primary focus will be for salvation of Israel. I will leave you with few examples from the Bible verses and videos that discuss this topic in detail.
Romans 11 (God has not abandoned Israel and how we, the gentiles, are blessed through the Jews), Matthew 23:37-39 (salvation of Israel and prior to second coming of Jesus Christ), Zechariah 8:23 (during the Millennial Kingdom).
Videos
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ruclips.net/video/IcoExsCMPc8/видео.html
@@jasont5427 What are you talking about? I didn't block you from anything. I, just like other people who are commenting, don't have such option to block anyone. You make false accusation, yet have no problem posting your comment of the issue.
Allen I will plead you do a second part of the Pornography video addressing in details the solutions to overcoming this weapon of the enemy. Most of our brothers and sisters want to be free but don't know how. God bless u.
I will tell you what Allen wouldn't, because I want you saved from this sin.
Get on your knees day and night. Have real remorse for your sins and repent to God for them. All of them. Start following all of what Jesus taught in obedience to him. Ask God to fill you with the Holy Ghost. Keep studying his Word daily and praying daily. Keep your mind filled with God and his will. Unsubscribe from this false prophets channel. He teaches to take the mark of the beast, the shot. He is leading many to damnation. Trust in the Word of God only. If you do these things, not only will you be removed from the sin of porn but will follow Jesus with a zeal in all things. Then hold tight to that obedience until Jesus returns which is very soon.
@@kathyk5589 you are commenting too much on shots and everything if this yutuber is wrong as if you think pray for him in that way you can help another innocent soul to be more close to God stop wasting time for commenting in RUclips and ask God am I doing right or wrong. I still don't understand what shot you are thinking cov vaccine cannot mark any form of number into a person it only helps to resist cov 19 virus have some intense research on that. I really can see lack of knowledge in basic science it's OK but pray for him if yur thinking he's wrong ok?
Thanks Allen! I Love how Turek explains this in a simple way. Logical sense. I agree that many non-believers first want to look for answers not in the bible, but around them. When they examine how the world functions and how it is created, it is clear that it points to God. Then i like how Turek says, thats something we find evident, before you even open a bible!
So that this universe is only dead and lethal to just about 99.99999999999999999...% is evidence for...which ancient myth again? I really do not get it.
Lol it is fallacious at every point. He has no evidence to assert God as the cause of anything. It’s an argument for incredulity.
"if if if..." The anthem of the atheist. It takes more faith to believe there's no God!!!
Why do you say that?
What faith are you talking about? I am an atheist and my position does not include faith in any way
@@colinmatts faith trying to defend a lack of any faith, just because they see Christianity as the greatest threat. Although the government hasn’t forced a religion on anyone.
@@blakebrockhaus347 because it’s true. “We came out of nothing”. That’s real great faith
is faith good or bad?
“Explain breathing”
“Now explain air?”
“Now explain why people don’t evolve into other animals like penguins when in Antarctica?”
Because man is man and cannot be changed into another thing.
@@ChristianityFirst Holy fuck.
If that's what you and these people think evolution is then you have already lost the debate.
Individuals do not evolve.
Try actually getting evolution right before trying to claim its wrong.
Evolution DOES NOT claim a man will turn into a penguin.
You're an embarrassment
@@sandersson2813 it does claim that your ancestors were fish and bacteria
@@levernis5753 that explains why I can hold my breath underwater for a long time 🤣🤣
@@iiFlexedd 30 seconds is not a long time. Also, being stationary as you do it is useless
The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament showeth His handiwork’s. The very proof that GOD exists is the fact that we (MAN) exists. 🙏🏿😍
I sometimes like to shake people up by agreeing that God DOESN'T exist - he IS "exist." To EXIST is to "stand out from a background," and God IS that background (he is the "gound of all being," the old theologians said).
@@nerowolfe736 I like to think of GOD as the ultimate Game Master, currently running a human only campaign with currently about 8 billion player characters. We each have randomly assigned attributes at birth, and free will to multi-class as we gain experience. At zero hit / health points we fall unconscious, and at -10 hp we die.
As The Word, God is the ultimate author presenting us with a massive choose your own adventure that humanity is working it's way through. No matter what path we take, eventually we will reach a chapter point before new options / paths open up. Biblical prophecy marks those 'chapter points' in the story of humanity and warns of the disasters our arrogance, ignorance, greed, pride, anger, etc will bring down upon our heads before God has to step in and save the campaign from the PCs before allowing it to wrap up and finish with the BBEG (big bad evil guy) and his realm (hell) being consigned to the lake of fire and destroyed.
And this is just One campaign world that's only somewhere between 6000 - 13.8 billion game years old.
GOD has no beginning and no end. God is outside of space / time. God has other campaigns going in other planes of existence, each with their own space / time.
Angels are other-dimensional beings (divine messengers) that can move back and forth between the different planes. Heaven is a higher dimensional plane, while Hell is a lower plane- compared to our universe.
You've got it wrong - every living person knows there is God without being told by another person. The scriptures clearly says God has revealed himself through what seen...his creation. Deep down, each of us knows God - just that we have rebelled against him and each one of us gone their own way. Jesus is the only back to God.
That's not true. People are atheist until indoctrinated or their superstitions take over. Our homosapiens species did not of your god until the last few thousands years of it's 300,000 years.
That's why there are remote tribes that do not know who your god is.
Your primitive man made scripture is lying and contradictory.
Deep down you're an atheist.
Jesus is a Jew that died and never resurrected.
Your god could reveal himself easily and chooses not to because the people who wrote the book knew they couldn't convince anyone but those mentally gullible.
Sounds like "everybody is born good".
If everyone was born good, no one could ever be bad.
If everyone was born an atheist, no one could ever be a believer.
Show me any study that proves children are more atheists than adults.
Read the title again, proving God without using any scriptures/ or the Bible itself.
@FallenAngel Born atheist?
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2008/nov/25/religion-children-god-belief
@FallenAngel No study is perfect, but it IS a study!
You dont even have a study!
Any other basis for "born atheist" than being atheist?
Atheist parents will tell their children "there is no god", Christian parents will tell them " there is a god".
"Born atheist" would mean the percentage of atheists among children is higher or equal than among adults.
*INCLUDING* cultural or social influence!
Never ever heard that children believe less in God than adults! It's the opposite.
Even if you dont accept the equation "more belief in God = innate to believe in God"
that does NOT mean " = innate atheism"! "Innate atheism" would mean a child would never think without being told "there is or there could be (!) a higher being that created the world". You think so? Even most atheists would deny that.
Or do you have any study proving that?
Why do all cultures of all times have their Gods if atheism was innate? The first atheistic parents of mankind (whenever and whoever this may have been) never told their innate-atheistic children about a higher being/ god. These never told their children, etc, etc.
Yes, that DOES make atheistic sense why we have countless religions!
OK, I got it! Debate finished.
Allen - love this format, lets have more interviews. Great job!
I used to get caught up in these types of discussions, but realized that they are not and just vain arguments. 2 Timothy 2:23 tells to reject these speculations. God bless Frank Turek, but a lot of what he said is very academic. If we have really read the Bible and remember it, nowhere did Jesus or His Disciples spend time being academic or trying to prove the existence of God....or even the existence of Christ to new lands that never met Him. They simply walked in love, showed sacrifice for others, and displayed the Power given to them. We have to stay the course and understand that our goal is to simply give the Truth we know in Christ according to The Word.
@Hemlock Cocktail Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear
(Ephesians 4:29)
@Hemlock Cocktail These verses do not contradict each other. They can be understood by reading the chapters in full. In 2 Timothy 2, Paul instructs Christians on how to address disputes and empty discussions. Christians should avoid such things, As they only lead to confusion among some. (14-15) verses 22 through 25 explain what Christians should do instead. “22 So flee youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart. 23 Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels. 24 And the Lord's servant[a] must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, 25 correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth”. it is true that 1 Peter 3:15 tells Christians to defend there hope and faith in God, but you did not include the rest of the verse. “ but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect”. Here we can see that both verses are referring to how Christians should approach others when talking about the faith, with gentleness, peace, and respect. When people defend the faith, they must be very careful to not become arrogant, feeling superior in the fact that they just proved a point. Instead, they should follow the example of Christ and the apostles, humble patient, and loving with their interactions with others, and speaking God’s word just like Sherese has already said. Next time, before you use another Bible verse as an argument you should try reading the surrounding scripture and the context of the book it’s found in. I’m saying this out of love, because I’ve made the same mistake multiple times, and it’s still something I need to work on every day. God bless
The Bible says not to get into quarrels because they often lead to unrighteous anger, which is a sin. If you look in the King James Bible, one of the closest translations of the original language, the word defend is not even used in one Peter 3:15. “But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear”. You do not have to get into an argument with someone to defend something. When Christ was challenged by the Pharisees in matters such as the law, he did not get into quarrels, he taught with love and patience. So you are correct in saying that Christians are meant to avoid quarreling, but they are also meant to teach and give answers when they are faced with questions and challenged by others.
@Hemlock Cocktail But the verse you quoted is about anyone asking about 'the hope', in other words faith. Indeed we have to be ready to engage in matters of faith. You are not engaging on faith but on evidence of God or God being the creator. So there's no 'contradiction' there.
Indeed the verse you quoted is not applicable to people like you, who do not believe God to be the creator and are not open to accepting the gospel of Christ, for Christ advised not to throw pearls before swine. Blessings!
@@mareejoy6113 Very well said!
Peter 3:15 "But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for the hope that is in you. But respond with gentleness and respect"
If it is wrong to torture babies then what about the killing of babies in the old testament due to pharaoh not letting the people go. Also, let's not forget the flood. There has to be babies around that time as well.
According to God's timeless universal objective moral nature by which he rules the universe... it is OK to kill babies. He leads by example "Love one another as I have loved you" implies that killing babies is godly
Those babies were instantly killed, they were not tortured.
@@mikewasowski3573 How much better does it make thing. If I kill a baby, I'll be sent to jail but "God" can get away with that and be worshiped. You don't see an error in your reasoning?
@@aldenlewis6976 if a potter makes a vase he can smash it but that does not make it right for anyone else to damage it.
15 year old grandson watched with me. Thank you Allen for theis interview. Very Interesting. I want to strengthen my knowledge on how to defend God with out even opening the bible. My grandson and I discussed after and he learned from watching this video. This makes a lot of sense and I believe it. Thank You Dr. Frank Turke
If you want to deepen your apologetics I’d recommend watching William Lane Craig, and his debates and discussions.
May I, in all respect, ask that you also teach your grandson the science behind the claims Turek mentions. There are scientific replies to all that Turek says, and Turek doesn't present these very well. Also, he doesn't represent science well, fx when he talks about macro and micro evolution. Ask any biologist, and he'll tell you there no real difference btw the two, except for time. Let him learn both sides, so he can make an informed choice about what to believe.
I feel that some unbelievers might use atheism/agnosticism as an excuse to sin & to not feel guilty about it. 🤔🤷🏻♀️😅Just my opinion.
Bingo.
That is bullshit. People are atheists because they don't have any evidence pointing to a god. As for the idea that atheists are immoral people that is completely untrue. If you feel you need a knife to your throat to be a good person that is fine, but most people are able to be good people without the threat of hellfire.
@@obansrinathan you have no grounding for morality. you cant claim someone is “good”
thought the same thing!
If even a fool knows there is no god, what's stopping you?
God has "Standing", sinful man does not. Therefore, it is up to the atheist to prove there is no God. Which of course they cannot. End of discussion.
What you just mentioned is what makes the vast majority of atheists become agnostics and shortly after they become agnostic is when they find Jesus. How do I know this? Because I am this person lmao.
I used to be near-militant athiest. Their was nothing to could tell me that proved God existed and then one day I sat and thought with my brain and decided their was no way I could possibly know 100% for certain that someone or something created everything as we know it, and that's what made me an agnostic. Which is when I was first willing to admit that I didn't know what was happening. Shortly after that I realised no one would believe or trust someone who admits that they know nothing at all about how everything was created for certain. This was when I first started reading the quaran. Even then I knew it was the book of Satan. Once I realised I just admitted a book of Satan exists, that means a book the opposite of that probably exists and that the bottomless pit of evil must be countered by some kind of all powerful good that is limitless. This was when I started reading the Bible. I read the first page or two and that's when I realised that bible contained more knowledge than I could ever hope to learn and thus it's creator was smarter than I. This is when I realised the bible has no known author and was rather, created by the hand of God. Everyone thinks the first books of the bible were written by moses but that's not true. Moses didn't write them because they're actually about Moses, not written by him, but about him. The beggining of the book of genisis has never been accurately dated and is believed to be ancient.
How could something ancient, something created before telescopes, know to call the planet were on "Earth" and that space is a deep dark void? This book somehow knew the nature of the universe far earlier than when we thought it was regular common practice for people to think the earth was flat. Sounds like a higher power to me. The thing that's behind the creation of the bible new that space was an endless void long long before man did.
Everyone on earth calls earth "earth" but they don't realize the first time we see the name earth in recorded human history is the beggining of the bible, the oldest known pieces of writing in mankinds history.
Even the muslims are more Christain than they realise lmao. Repent Muslims and come back to Jesus. Come back home, you don't need Muhammad deciving you no more.
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Great testimony :)
By the way, is there any reason for believing that moses didn't write the first books of the bible?
@@nsptech9773 I wrote out this massive beautiful explaintion to your question but then my tablet died right as I was hitting send so I'm going to sum it up quicker lmao.
They're called the books of Moses not the books by moses. That's my reasoning. Also the books of Moses cover Moses life literally from before his birth until after his death. Nowhere in there was he spending years authoring some of the greatest writing mankind ever received. He was more busy leading enslaved people to freedom, to the promised land, getting the ten commandments from god on mount Sinai. The books of Moses don't include anything about Moses being a writer, thus I believe the books of Moses were written about him after he passed, and not by him. He isn't the author. Although Many historians might disagree, I respectfully think they're wrong. Many parts of Genisis were written way way way WAY before Moses even existed. So I believe no single story in the bible was written by anyone in the story. They were written by other people in parts and pieces as they documented reality itself, and then assembled in the correct order over centuries. So they're the author's of the documentation of reality which is authored by God himself. So god is the real author and we're meerly the documenters of his story. I believe at least at this moment, that the bible is guided by the hand of the creator, and no single man had any kind of control over the story, rather the story was was already written in how reality of man itself unfolded, and was documented by men, and assembled by other men long after they had died. People can guess who wrote certain books of the bible all they want but few parts if any are directly written by the people in the stories. Many parts are literally what the apostles said verbally, documented by other people, passed down and assembled by totally different people over centuries. Their is no clear authors there. It's the only book written by so many different people documenting what happened that it has so many authors that it's a wonder the story even fits together completely perfectly like it does. It's a miricle in itself with such complexity that the story fits together seamlessly and perfect. Moses couldnt have wrote his own books. Instead many people came together after he died to figure out the stories pieces and to piece them together correctly. Their is only one way the story of salvation fits together without contradicting, they just had to figure it out more than thy were doing any authoring. The story was already written, it was more about documenting the story correctly more than it was actually authoring and inventing the stories. The puzzle only fit one way, they had to discover it more than they did any of it's writing. Most of the bible is people who lived entirely different lives and didn't even know of each other's existence, yet their stories still completely fall in exactly as they are supposed to. That's why the books of the bible have a story and the story was decided and set in stone long before the bible was ever constructed, or the reality behind the stories even happened in the real world. The real writer of the bible knew how it was going to end, before Genisis or the books of Moses were even close to being constructed, or the events of the stories even happened in real life. The only thing that can know the past present and future to the point that it can weave this perfect story over generations, centuries over several different books full of people not even aware of each other, is god because only God exists in the past present and future. Even Moses getting the ten commandments on mount Sinai still effects most of the developed world today as they follow those ten commandments to this day. Their is no way Moses wrote those books because Moses was leading people to the promised land, he wasn't busy writing. Moses alone wouldn't father the law of the entire developed free world thousands of years after he was long gone. It's God that did that. Only God could do that. Their is far too many people involved over centuries in just the construction of Genisis alone for any single man to have control of the story. Thus the story is constructed by man, but the story is written by God. Right at the center of this story written by God and constructed by man, is his son Jesus who was tortured to death after he came to try to save the world. Figures the main character of a book written by God and not Moses is his own son lmao. His own son is smack in the center and it's us killing him.
I used to think Moses wrote the books even while I was reading them. Then it occured to me while reading the books OF Moses, it didn't say the books BY Moses like every other book in mankinds history who's author is clearly stated. The books of the bible have no clear authors, maybe few parts do from what I can tell MAYBE, but most of the story is guided by God and constructed by man long after the fact. I mean, most of the book is God giving the ten commandments and then destroying every civilization that turns against those commandments. God makes it very clear he is in control of the story, he is the writer of mankinds story and we meerly documented it in the bible. We are meerly the constructors of his story of salvation that we have recorded and documented on paper for people to read.
Their is no author to the books of Moses because they're quite literally historical documentation. No one sat and brainstormed the story because the story actually happened in reality and the person who made reality okay our the way it did and is, is God as no man can simply author the universes existence and the story of mankind except God. The story was already written by God so their is no authors, only documentary of the story as it was written and played out in reality. That's why Moses didn't write the books about himself. Other people constructed his story after it played out and eventually once the bible started getting pieces together, his piece fit in right where it belonged and was meant to go where god intended it to go before he even spoke the universe into existence. Hallelujah
Another example would be Abraham in the bible, people on earth here say he fathered the two greatest religions, but in the bible it's God who tells Abraham directly he will be the father of nations, it's all controlled by God.
The author of the bible is God. Man is meerly the constructors of the story as it was already written and playing out in the real world with real people. And if you read the Bible you'll see it. If you read just Jesus in the books of mathew, mark, luke, and John, you can clearly read Jesus, but if you jump to revelation and then back to Genesis, you'll notice it seems like the same Jesus in Mathew mark Luke and John is the same guy who wrote Genesis, and revelation. The book has many different constructors, but one main author. The entire book is basically penned by Jesus, from cover to cover. God himself is an invisible spirit though, so he can't write the physical book himself, but instead he used mankind to construct his book he wrote for him, and he wrote it for us. That's something a one real and only God would do. The best book that exists for us to read, he wrote for us. that's a loving God if you ask me. He has been setting up the story for an eternity just for us
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Thanks for your reply
@@TheAnnoyingBoss Nice. I don't know that I agree with everything you said, but the heart of what you said is refreshing. So thanks for that.
Our whole existence is surrounded by the logic of creation. The clothes we wear are created by someone, the cars we drive in are created by someone. Now lets use the same logic: the houses we life in are created by someone > the trees we see are created by someone. If we use Logic we cant escape this universe is created by someone..
Well who created god
Who or what has created God?
"the houses we life in are created by someone"
Yes, our houses were created by masons.
@@shadowbonbon3 God created time and space
@@vir5707 God created time and space
God is the ultimate creator and magnificent in everything he does!
Just look around at the earth and universe, everything is perfect. How would the Big Bang know that a human needs only two eyes, two ears and two arms and legs? Only a designer like God would know this.
awesome! :)
This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, “This is an interesting world I find myself in-an interesting hole I find myself in-fits me rather neatly, doesn’t it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!” This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything’s going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.
Has it ever occurred to you that it wasn't made for us but that we evolved to fit it.
The Big Bang doesn’t have a mind of its own. There is no flaws on the earth or heavens for a non creator to accomplish it. The only flaws is in us humans, because of the fall in the garden of Eden.
@@viktorgadany7595 There are loads of flaws on Earth. How do you think we get earthquakes, volcanos, landslides and tsunamis. You have to prove heaven is a real place before we can test it for flaws. Humans are flawed in all sorts of ways. That's because evolution isn't trying to reach a perfect goal. The garden of eden is a fairy tale
I prefer listening to Pastor John MacArthur. He reads, preaches and teaches from the Bible and is 82 years young! He knows what is truth from error and doesn't beat around anything!
Same here
So whats the explanation for 2 different genealogy of Jesus in the bible. Or the explanation of why your allowed to beat your slave and not be punishment if he stays alive for a day?Exodus 21:20-21
“Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave survives after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
That's why we're commanded to study to show thyself approved. Regardless of who it's coming from you know the truth when you hear it. Some pastors are more passionate about preaching than others should be the only difference.
82 years = young
This video is filled with the God of gaps theory which is basically "I don't know how some things work so I'm going to say it's God" it's a terrible argument.
That's true, but he did admit that even though there is a God that created the universe, we don't know which God is the right one for sure such as Allah or the Christian God, I believe both these Gods are and serve the same one fine tuning God but they just have different rules and beliefs for each religion.
Also, if you really think about it, it just naturally makes sense that there is a creator for our universe and for life because what other theories are there that are as logical or as reasonable as there being a fine tuner like God? God just makes the most sense out of all the theories and it is just the most logical thing to think that the intricately complex world that we human beings live in has a creator. It's just too good to be true if life just came from nothing or from an accident, we weren't born for nothing or came into existence without a creator. If there wasn't a fine tuner of the universe such as God, then all the laws of physics and nature and any laws of the universe wouldn't last too long or as good as they do now. Without God, it would be a miracle to even be alive and last this long in a randomly accidentally created universe. And if we could miraculously survive this long from something such as the Big bang theory and evolution, we could also be taken away from the universe too along with all life, but we've been alive as a human race far too long for it to have been a lucky perfect accident which we are still somehow alive in.
@@droneactivities you make a good point but the natural God theory falls apart with one question. Why can god be the exception to something can't come from nothing but not people? Why can god be alive without a infinite creator but not us? Is it not more of a stretch that there's a being that completely contradicts what we know about how the universe works then to just say we might be an except or better yet, just say we don't know like scientists have been saying. There's meny points for this question and as I've stated before the other point you made is a god of gaps argument. You don't know how we are alive so you're going to assume it's god. Also the argument that if the big bang was even a little off it would collapse back in on itself because this yo can be answered by one question. What do you think will happen if all that Matter comes back in on itself? I think it just would explode again and if it fails again.
@@droneactivities I applaud anyone who tries to use reason to prove God however, I'll give you that.👏 👏👏👏👏. Much better then people who just say their God is obviously the real one because of things like the Bible.
@@droneactivities also there seems to be a misconception that atheist believe we come from and that we think the big bang was the beginning of the universe. We don't believe the big bang was the beginning but rather the big bang is the furthest back we can observe the universe before are mathematical models and science don't make as much sense before.
@@droneactivities ruclips.net/video/hOtUDQe4p5Y/видео.html this video makes one of the best arguments against the cristian god and I would argue these points myself but um not as articulate as those guys
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NO, we're not saying there is a multi verse. We're simply saying we don't believe your claims. See, YOU assert and claim that there is a god there for the burden of proof is on you!😎
Exacto
The proof of the pudding is in the eating......
Jesus said : " Come to me and I will give you rest " " Go" to Him and you will know that He is God
@@edk484 How do you know he said that?
@@edk484 And even if that character jesus in that fiction book actually existed and he actually said that. How do we know that he's actually god? Go.👉....
@@keithkoster8937 Oh, that is simple...I asked Him myself and He gave me rest and even more like : peace, joy, love, purpose, perspective, eternal life and more...
You can go to Him as well and you will receive the same...
As I said :" the proof of the pudding...."
I was so certain that he was gonna start his answer with “well according to the Bible”. Lol. I’m thoroughly impressed.
That only took 2min into the video. jesus is ONLY know from the book of fables.
@@yoshisaidit7250 Wrong, Jesus is mentioned by Josephus.
@@Bryan-gw6bn so saith the bible. smfh
@@yoshisaidit7250 lol, you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Josephus was in, I believe Rome when the events of Jesus were taking place. He’s also not a Christian, he was a Jew. Josephus is also never mentioned in any book of the Bible.
He was a historian in Rome and he wrote something like, there’s some unrest due to some supposed miracle man down in Judea. That’s not exactly what he said but it’s close enough. You can look him up if you want his quote verbatim.
@@Bryan-gw6bn
OK, I dont have time rt now, but I will look into it.
I did a quick scan, so far what I have is he was heavily influenced in politics, and was born after said events. Therefore, when I look into it, I will most likely find that what you claim is false just like everything else.
Our existence as humans simply proves that there is God.
Jesus existed with God in the very beginning.He has always been there from day 1.John 1:1
Loved this so much!!
Also Frank looks like he's about to fly a helicopter 😂
LOL! I was trying to figure out what he looked like!
Psalm 53:1, "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good."
“What evidence do you have that the God of the Bible DOESNT exist?” Whe someone frames the question in the tone of voice that they do in the title of this, no amount of evidence will persuade them otherwise
I absolutely agree with you. Then the question becomes do you engage with that person.
@@terrybrown4542 sure why not? At least be cordial and ask what turek does “ if christianity were true would you become a Christian?” At least you would know where they stand. If they say no, then ask them why what they believe is more rational. Of course they cant but at least you know theyre not rejecting it on a rational logical basis. Its just pure emotion, a bad past experience, or pride. You can at least plant a rock pr two in their shoe, then when life throws them a curveball big enough such as their own self sufficiency cant overcome, well maybe at that time the person will ask about it
I think it is important to grasp what many seem to overlook. And that is that just because we have been able to measure some aspects of our existence, does not mean there is no god, or higher power. The idea of if it is the Christian god is a different debate.
But the binary argument that since we have the ability to figure functions out through a scientific method, that it must equally mean there is not a intentional higher driving force behind existance just seems like such a jump to me.
One of the most popular of the Hot Young Atheist buzzwords is that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Yes, but what if we frame the question this way: for 2,000 years, hundreds of millions of human beings, across a wide range of cultures and many religions, have come to acknowledge the reality of Jesus Christ, and have based their lives and eternal fate on him, his message, life, death, and Resurrection.
So the atheist has to hold that every single one of those people was deceived, deluded, dreaming, indoctrinated, brainwashed and/or insane, and only he and a few others are smart enough to see through the whole imposture.
Quite an extraordinary claim, that. Where's the extraordinary evidence that you alone are the one who is right? Hundreds and hundreds of millions are shaking you by the shoulders and telling you straight that you are blind, and the thinker in your head is broken. How long can you disagree with all of them?
When you have to back track over years of records and testimonials and other articles of information, to please the framed argument that acts as if we should deny everything we have to just come back to the present moment as if everything in this present moment without everything in the past is illogical. How can one form argument against God without having the word God to conversate about God. As well as structure what we deem "rational " without the existing content of our database of debating rational terms against irrational ideas. I suppose "agnostic" could have occurred without cultural history. But there's no argument to debate about "agnosticism" because we DO have knowledge. About many things.
"Any man who rejects Christ as the Son of God is rejecting a fact proved perhaps more absolutely than any other fact in the world."
Chapter 3 / Science Speaks
I think you need to look up the definition on the word (FACT)
@@bgworms9 No.
So a book from before we knew about DNA, before space flight, before the unification of EM and weak nuclear, before the Silicon chip, or the internet, that is your basis for science? I think you need to do some reading. The book was considered a dubious rant when it was published, it has not aged well.
@No Game Dominic :)
@No Game Dominic Haha
Frank looks like he's dressed for the gun range.
I was about to say this..
It’s cause he’s always shooting facts
Lmao
@@nickbsick6142 lol that's a good one
@@nickbsick6142 you know what. . . I like you for that.
🤜🏾🤛 god bless you
You know? You convinced me!
Odin exists.
If the three arguments made are sound, why assume Odin exists? That would be like someone showing you that intelligent life on other planets very probably exists, and then you coming to the conclusion Chewbacca exists. In the absence of additional evidence, deism is the most rational choice.
Of course, if part of their reason for believing in intelligent life is because first contact was on every news channel, then we can be very confident in knowing the identity of at least one intelligent life form. In the presence of the evidence for the historicity of the Gospels and the resurrection, Christianity is the most rational choice.
@@hyreonk dear friend, "evidence of the gospel and resurrection" is a pretty funny idea.
I suggest you go far deeper in your study about, maybe your pastor is not the better source to study.
Just for clarity, there is NOT any evidence of resurrection, there is a lot of evidence that gospels where strigth invented.
So my assumotion about odin is not only at the same level of your god, but I think is more reliable then your.
Bye my friend
@@IoDavide1Can you point me in the direction of the sources you have about Odin, or that the gospels are fabricated? It seems a fascinating point of discussion.
Also, my pastor was not my source. Gary Habermas' minimal facts argument won it for me. A few historical facts about Jesus (his death, his followers' sudden and sincere belief in seeing him alive, and the early church's start in Jerusalem who would have the best information about whether Jesus really rose, and the conversion of the previously hostile James and Saul) have not been well explained by any non-Christian theory. So as a disclaimer, I have essentially made up my mind. The evidence is as good as it came in its time.
@@hyreonk dear friend, it is pointless to point my joke about odin, who is a fantasy being as well as your god.
About your study, I suggest you to begin reading the bible and reading christian scolars that explain how gospels are one the copy of the other and that are completely sourceless.
But I know you will not do anything of this, because you dont want anything disturb what you believe.
Bye
I hope to someday be able to speak about God and the truth in this way. I have a hard time remembering verses and chapters and feel intimidated when thinking of sharing the Gospel. Thank you for this video it answers alot of questions I also have. God bless
We will get there. 🙏🏿 God bless you
Perhaps you should just confess Jesus to others and obey the bible so that the non-christians will glorify God by your good conduct in Jesus name amen!
So right away he doesn't provide evidence. He literally says he has 3 arguments 😂 Where is the evidence?
what do u mean by evidence
u want to stand before god face to face 😂
or want physical proof of non physical thing 😂
wanna put god in a test tube
You keep asking for evidence but reject God an expect him to skip to your lou.
This was so inspiring I was on a edge of weather I thought God existed or not but this inspired me really well thank you so much
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for anyone who want to choose to believe in God we can test that anything that has answered prayers around all time little and big desires even it´s not God whatever that exist in nature that give us what we ask it´s a God maybe it´s not a human like we want but that natural law that give us the power to us for miracles to happen it´s God that´s God we have so many proofs that there is imposible to count all the prayers and desires that were fullfill anything that give us that miracles is the God of humanity and if we can´t deny that miracles because prayer we can´t deny the existence of the law atheist just can´t complain about that not always works not that never works so if we know that there is something that giver us miracle there is something that we know that exist that we can call it just God with that simple name
The arguments for God's existence either contain fallacious reasoning, unsubstantiated premises, false premises, or any combination of the three. Also, arguments are not evidence. When you formulate an argument, even when your premises and logic are sound, you must still test the conclusion, and must directly support it with evidence. That is the difference between philosophy and science. Science tests the conclusion, and requires evidence for the conclusion.
Yup you cant test any of the ideas that they mentioned so they are useless until that happens and results come to be. We don't even have DNA of the guy let alone any solid evidence he did anything that wacko is telling us he did.
A lack of evidence isn't evidence, it's just a lack of it.
1:20 into the video & he says “whatever created space and time….” Accepting that there was a beginning does not imply a creator.
Whatever created…implies a creator of some form :\
@@Bryan-gw6bn it’s an assumption that there is a creator.
@@joshsimpsonmusic741 I could say that you’re assuming there isn’t a creator of the universe. That gets us no where though.
Logically speaking, if something’s been created that means it has to come from something. Before the universe, as far as we know, there was nothing. Which means some entity had to have put this all into motion.
@@Bryan-gw6bn I’ve never said there isn’t a creator. But the time to posit the existence of something is when we have evidence for what you’re saying. Before the Big Bang could be something that we don’t quite understand. I think the best & most honest answer we can give, in that instance is simply “I don’t know”.
@@joshsimpsonmusic741 I’m not saying I know 100% this is a fact. Intelligent Design is just the best guess I have for the beginning of the universe. As for proof, how would you test something that predates and exists outside of our universe? You’d have to wait for whatever is out there to interact with us.
Besides, many conclusions can logically be made without hard evidence. Thousands of years ago some people were able to figure out the water cycle. They had no instruments to prove it but they were correct.
The more I learn about the complexities of the known universe the more I’m sure it had to have some kind of intelligent creator. That’s just me though.
Dont look for church or religion, look for relationship with god.
And Jesus
@@mikewasowski3573 "I only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel." ~Jesus Christ in Matthew 15:24