The Lane Kiffin Saga was worse than Josh McDaniels
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I like that Al wasn't some hedge fund guy, some real estate developer... He didn't own an oil company. He was football coach who worked his way up to being an NFL owner.
And like all head coaches the game passed him by, but with Al you can't fire an owner with a backwards mindset. You have to wait for him to die
He did not work his way up, he took the team away from the other owners.
Lane Kiffin getting fired at the Airport by USC after a road loss is still one of the funniest things that have ever happened. You just know Al Davis was smiling down on that one.
Or smiling up
every time he's mentioned my mom ALWAYS brings that story up 😭
Shades of Gerard Gallant
Nothing will ever top Josh Mcdaniels getting fired while trick or treating with his family
@@mbry1 wow 😂😂
“You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain”. Al Davis and Jerry Jones were/are very much the latter.
Couldn't have said it better.
Have to add a correction: it was Pete Rozelle not Paul Tagliabue that Davis clashed with. This feud dated back to the merger as Al wanted to be the NFL commissioner.
Yes it was Rozelle but, Lamar Hunt-owner of the Chiefs, cut a deal behind his back with the NFL. Al NEVER wanted to merge with the NFL. He thought they could have beaten them.
Additionally, 2002 was the Raiders' FIFTH Super Bowl appearance, not their fourth.
Al also confessed that he didn’t get along with Tagliabue either 🤬.
The good ole projection screen firing. Fond memories….😂 😩
And Davis might've come out this one looking better if he didn't make a point of reminding everyone drafting Russell was his idea
Raiders fan, here. I would like to forget this era of Al Davis ever existed, thank you.
Playoff wins are usually a pretty good cure all
Ah yes the era that’s won us 3 superbowls. Let’s forget about that one. How are you even a raiders fan?
@@Tsar_Waddles I meant the mid 2000's up until his death. I specifically said "this" era of Al Davis. Apologies for the confusion.
@@nicholastricarico2957 you’re all good. I think you meant that in your original comment. Apologies as well. RN4L
@@bigbearkat2010 Problem is, we haven't had any of those since 2003.
At least this led him to Alabama where he had a great call in show, Kiffins Krimson Korner
Got to love that Davis hires a head coach whose biggest job at that point was a coordinator in COLLEGE and then acts surprised that Kiffen might not be qualified.
But he was, it’s hard to be a great coach when your gm/owner won’t let you do your job lol
@@lamarallen4474 he was 5-15, there's only so much you can blame on a senile owner
Daniel Tosh’s Kiffin’s Krimson Korner is hilarious.
The jamarcus russell drafting got lane kiffin run out of oakland. But lane kiffin was right in the end about russell. He told al davis not too draft him & that jamarcus wasn't gonna be a great nfl qb.
And the beginning too really. Russell had a holdout so long and embarrassing he basically wasted his rookie season because of it.
@@bigbearkat2010That was always the worst way to start a career. The guys who held out like that often didn’t pan out. I’m glad they’ve changed how Rookie contracts are structured now.
Yup. Al Davis was great in his heyday, but was the worst talent evaluator in his last 5-10 years.
Before there was lane kiffin, there was art shell the 2nd time 😂
Which was a disaster where the only two notable things was going 2-14 and pissing off Jerry Porter
Andrew Walters SMH 🤦♂️
The 2006 Oakland Raiders only scored 168 points for the whole season.
@@RichGannon12 I’m sure my 2009 rams are worse than that
As an ole miss fan, I hope lane kiffin stays for a long time
As Mississippi State fan I don’t lol but loved how he replied to my tweet one time.
It looks like he will. Idk which way, but he didn’t leave for LSU after 2021, and he didn’t leave for Alabama after 2023. The only job I could think of that he’d leave for is the Florida job, but I think he’s happy in Oxford.
All Aboard The Lane Train
And before Lane Kiffin, there was Mike Shanahan.
And before Mike Shanahan, there was Marty Feldman.
As a Bronco fan, this one of my favorite Raider eras😂
The Mayock era was great as well
@@MenverMan Let's be honest, aside from Hostetler and Gannon eras, the Raiders have been trash for almost 40 years😂😂
I just left a comment saying that, as a Chiefs fan, I look back fondly on the Lane Kiffin era🤣
@@danielfisher8539truth hurts
I can’t help but see Daniel Tosh e every time an image of Lane Kiffin appears. Only difference is I like Daniel Tosh. Thanks for the great work you did at Tennessee assclown.
As a Chiefs fan, I look back fondly on the Lane Kiffin days…
Weren't those also the Herm Edwards days?
Chargers fan, I also look back fondly
@devonwhite2443 yes and real chiefs fan definitely don't look back on those days fondly tbh we were just as much of a shit show we were just in kc so noone cared kinda how like both new York teams suck but the panthers also suck but we only talk about the big markets
Not that your team was any better than us at that time
@@jaydee4861 Nothing beats the fact that your team drafted Brees, Rivers and Herbert, generally have had a team with a lot of talent for many, many years, yet if you open your trophy case, it looks like dust storm. How the hell does a team draft three HOF caliber QBs in a row and still cannot win one? It rivals Brady's career and Favre's streak in just how astonishing it is.
I like this recent storytelling arc, good on ya 5
As a Vols fan I really wished he wouldn't have left. Say what you will about his attitude but our offense was competitive and competent. He had J. Crompton looking like a NFL QB. I still remember watching Virginia Tech vs TN on New Year's Eve. He got his on that tarmac though lol
@@MosheGoldbergTheKing that's my point, before Lane he was almost Garrapalo bad
@@MosheGoldbergTheKing that's why I hate he left for USC. Him getting fired on the tarmac was karma because he'd "never leave unless it was that job".
Thats not even the worst of raiders coaching problems. They hired Art shell and Jon gruden twice after firing them the first time
Just a minor correction the Raiders have been to 5 Super Bowls.
Even Kiffin knew not to draft Jamaracus Russell. He wanted Calvin Johnson.
I too watched the video were commenting on
Al Davis is the kind of hardnose SOB who when he's making good moves, you end up with the Raiders of the 1970s-1980s and he's not making good moves, you got the Raiders since the move back to Oakland in 1995-present
Explains the 76 yard field goal attempt.
Al Davis had the coolest shades of all time
Totally agree. The were iconic.
I know it’s a trend to call out RUclipsrs of plagiarism, but I happened to look at Lane Kiffen’s Wikipedia page and there were lines that we basically listen straight from the article.
The “Davis had been known to select young, up-and-coming coaches in their thirties; those hires who fared well include Madden, Mike Shanahan, and Jon Gruden. All have won Super Bowls, though Madden is the only one of the three to win a championship with the Raiders.” I’d directly from Wikipedia.
Is it a trend to be an absolute douche? Because if so you are nailing that one!
How is he being a douche?Calling the guy out for not doing any work and taking someone else’s. Relax dude, it’s not hard to change a couple of words around to make it your own. DO BETTER 5
Nice to see we sobered up from the draft, 5.
Kiffin's Krimson Korner! 😂Great vid, they dont make them like Al anymore.
another fantastic video ..
2002 was the Raiders 5th SB appearance
Davis couldn't get out of his own way. His son isn't that much different.
Al Davis' son looks like the love child of Al Davis and John Madden
seriously though can you imagine absolutely whiffing it in the draft and taking jamarcus fucking russell over megatron
This was in the middle of their run of 13 consecutive non-winning seasons. What a shitty time to be a Raiders fan.
Do you have any idea how much my day improves when you drop a new vid?
Jeff Garcia & rookie Megatron would have been fucking unreal. Maybe his nickname would have ended up being Long Johnson Silver ROFL 🤣 😂 🤣
Raiders should have drafted Aaron Rodgers in 2005
The eyebrow raise after Mangina got me to subscribe.
Getting Rid of Gruden the first time was a huge mistake.
Reminds me of a Secret Base video. Well written and narrated!
Jeff Garcia and Calvin Johnson could have been a dangerous combo
Better than what they had at the time
Young Al Davis was way ahead of his time, winning coach, Commissioner of the AFL, principal owner of the Raiders. 3 Super Bowl Trophies. Old Al Davis was way behind the times. He drug his team to the muddiest of bottoms, and would not let his coaches coach.
"Smoke weed talk shit like Lane Kiffin"
- The Littlest Wayne
Anytime I think of Lane Kiffin I think of Daniel Tosh from Tosh.0 with his “Kiffin’s Krimson Korner” sketch
As a Tennessee fan, I dislike Kiffin less for his actions and more for the period of dysfunction that he began at the school. Him getting tarmaced was the most poetic thing ever, but I can't hate the guy. He was young and chasing a dream. Seems like he's really turned himself around and I wish him the best.
I’m a Detroit fan, and even I have to wonder a bit about a world with Megatron being a lifer in black & silver. The bankable villain personae he could have donned….
Megatron in the silver & black would have been interesting
I wanted the Raiders to draft Calvin Johnson
Al Davis towards the end looked like a real like skeksis from Dark Crystal
This is a good vid 5.
Al Davis was a juggernaut from the late 60’s to the early 80’s as both owner and GM. Somehow he lost his GM mojo after winning Super Bowl XVIII, and his uber-type A tendencies had him refusing to hand over the GM reins to fresh blood.
@7:22 shout out al davis having Jamarcus back. Its refreshing when you hear all these stories of his coaches and teammates throwing him under the bus
The overhead projector press conference was like a real-life scene from a Coen Brothers movie
Lane is a snake. I remember what he did to the Vols. Al Davis wasn’t much better.
For all of Al Davis' accomplishments and contributions to the game of football, he could be a very petty and cruel person to anyone who ran afoul of him. Just ask Marcus Allen.
It seems like that super bowl loss against Tampa broke Al Davis. Those last few years of his life were ugly for the team and honestly, his son proves nepo babies are just not a good thing. But yes, Davis up to 2002 is a remarkable, unique person. Afterwards, he was a remarkable meddler in his team.
The problem with the Raiders has always been money, they can't sign players to good deals due to ownership having to put the money into escrow which they do not have. Even today the team is mostly owned by Bank of America
As an FAU alumni at least Lane led us to 2 conference championships in 3 years, which is a positive 😁
Still wondering how that egghead tool Mark came from Al davis
I like lane I believe him when he said that he warned Al not draft Russell but they flipped the story and blame it on Lane
It was Pete Rozelle he locked horns with for the move to LA, in 95 he moved back to Oakland when Tagliabue was commissioner
That why the NFL wanted the Rams back in Los Angeles not the Raiders
That sounds an awful lot like the beef Al Davis had with Mike Shanahan. 😂👀
Head coaching is one of the best fail upwards careers out there.
*5th Super Bowl appearance in 2002 *beefed with Pete Rozelle about move to LA
Lane Kiffin at Tennessee deserves a video
Al Davis is both the best and worst thing about the Raiders, and even in death, his shadow lingers on, which is kind of why Davis is such a controversial figure.
Best, cause you have to admit that Davis was the architect behind those 3 Super Bowl wins, since as GM, it was Davis who drafted those players who brought him those Lombardis. Plus, the man was a proponent for civil rights, not afraid to hire minorities (Art Shell is black, Tom Flores is Hispanic) or women in executive roles (Amy Trask).
However, Al's penchant for marching to the beat of his own drum was also a double-edged sword, and the reason why the Raiders slowly declined, which lasted long past Al's passing. As shown with Kiffin, Davis was notoriously petty with people who slighted him, and this also extended to his own son (apparently Al did not like how chummy Mark was with players, and kept him away from football ops until he passed). Between Davis and Jerry Jones, at least Jones is sane enough to think about the future, whereas Al clearly thought he would live forever, seeing how much of a mess the Raiders became after he passed.
Now Lane is one of the best college coaches in the country
I’m 31 right now. God please let me run the Cowboys. I’ve been building teams and winning madden super bowls since 98.
On the other hand I doubt any pro would listen to me, 5’7” skinny white guy… if I was 6’3” I’d get the job.
Reason #1 on the projector
It's Lane Kiffins fault for JaMarcus Russell because he got him Mcsingles instead of Mcdoubles
Between McDaniels, Gruden 2.0, and Kiffin, the Raiders have had a history of hiring terrible coaches.
Do Kiffin and Tennessee next please !!!!
I don't know how you Raiders fans did it, cuz those years in the Mid-Late 2000s just seemed like absolutely Nothing could go right for Oakland
"Nothing could go right" implies bad luck rather their owner going senile. Dude was a Walmart brand version of present day Jerry Jones in that last decade.
The Raiders Buccs Super Bowl was the Raider 5th Super Bowl appearance not 4th
Lane Kiffin was right when he thought it was a mistake drafting JaMarcus Russell.
After Tom Flores, they all been bad
Technically Saban asked Kiffin to leave because he felt he was too distracted with program building. So we got Sark as a terrible playcaller to lose us the title.
As a Chargers fan, I miss this era of the Raiders 😂
What's even funnier is Chargers never winning a superbowl 😂
See always gonna respect and love Al for bringing this team 3 superbowl rings BUT lets not act like he was the greatest owner ever. After he traded Gruden in 2003 he traded his sanity too and afterwards became old and senile
IT'S THE SAME THING TOO...AP IS ALREADY LOOKING TO JUMPING TO COLLEGE!
The projector...
2002 was their 5th Super Bowl appearance.
Hate the Raiders. Respect Al Davis. Love Lane Kiffin.
hahaha Lane Kiffen
I liked it better when we didn't have to see the narrator every few minutes doing an impression of Jim from the office.
Yeah I remember just how bad that relationship was. I'm from the Bay area and I was in Oakland raiders fan at the time. Actually Lane Kiffin was seen as a success at first. The raiders had the worst offense by far in 2006 and sure the raiders were able to get two wins that year but they were kind of lucky to do so and it really was the defense did all the work in both those wins. One comment I saw in an article on the press Democrat said it all when they got that win against the Steelers in 2006. Chris Carr returned an interception for a touchdown for more yards than the total amount of yards the offense went that entire game.
So to put that in the perspective with the raiders having their offense improved from what I think was probably the worst offense I had ever seen in my life and the only reason they had any wins was because of them having somehow a really amazing defense that year, all for the raiders offense to improve to like 21st I think which obviously isn't very good but it's a dramatic improvement from where they were the year before, a lot of us raiders fans actually saw Lane kiffin as a success at the time even though the team still wasn't really that good but they were noticeably improved at least on offense. Not sure why the defense took such a step back though.
A lot of us did not want Lane kiffin to be fired. Looking back at it now at least in my opinion I think it was the right decision. It was just two seasons later when the raiders were actually in contention for the division for two straight years as a matter of fact. It was indeed a very dramatic relationship between those two. If somehow they could have made it work and the raiders actually improved a lot more and maybe even made the playoffs which even then was still extremely unlikely, it might have actually made for a good movie😂
Was that Bill Romanowski saying the Raiders suck?!?
All coaches switch jobs like that
I admire young AL, but am embarrassed by his last 20 years of mistakes. Let’s not forget Lane was one of his many F ups!
Fired via hour long press conference using an overhead projector.. doesn't anymore gangster than that!
megatron
Kiffin knew players Davis knew football. Kiffin sucked as a coach though and Davis sucked at evaluating players. He overlooked skill in his later years and relied solely on size, speed and strength.
That's why he tolk JaMarcus Russell and remember, chose Darius Heyword-Bey (spelling) over Michael Crabtree. DHB was incredibly fast.
Al Davis was sick
And before the beef with Lane Kiffen there was Mike Shanahan vs All Davis.
It was some bad timing in that 07 draft for the Raiders. The O-Line was in bad shape and they needed someone like Joe Thomas. They needed a qb too because Andrew Walter wasn't the guy and when people were saying Russell could throw 60 plus yards on his knees, I was wondering with that line how far he could throw on his ass.
Hey don't knock the overhead projector. There will come a day when you will be caught using yester year's tech that kids will laugh at.
Amy Trask said that Lane Kiffin rubbed a lot people the wrong way. Acted like he was better than everybody.
I'll never forget kiffin having janikowski go for a 70 something yard field goal, pretty sure that was a big fuck you to Davis, when we hired mcdumbass it felt like kiffin 2.0, still so glad we've got AP now, the future looks brighter than it has in a while RN4L!!!
2:35
WRONG
Al Davis locked horns with then commissioner Pete Rozelle, not Paul Tagliabue, in trying to move the Raiders to LA in the early-80’s.
cough 5 super bowls ...cough
Al Davis was a bum owner. No Super Bowls in his last 25 years as an owner
Bobby Petrino… although that’s not the raiders
I think McDaniels got lucky that he dealt with his son and not actully AL like lane did it woulda been 1000x times worse for McDaniels
Al worst to firsted Oakland as a coach too.
Smoke weed and talk shit like lane Kiffin