You are funny really, He is saying that Imane is a woman with vagina . She is a woman . Now he question you , is there any other way to understand she is a woman or man ?
chromosomes are guidlines, not rules. she has xy but is fully female in anatomy etc. the neo not see's thought they had a "gotcha" moment and instead merely expressed how stupud they truly are.... again.
@montscent7124 That would explain the XY, however, I've never heard swyer syndrome mentioned in relation to Imane, even with all the tests done on him. You can also research 46, XY DSD (Differences of Sexual Development). Men like Imane & Semenya
The ocean … is a woman …. The moon … is a woman … the North Pole was raised as a woman , born as a woman , and is a woman who identifies as a woman whom is a woman woman woman .
If a russian organisation without publication of their tests say someone is a man that person just is a man. Nothing fishy going on there whatsoever. because russians can't lie. They lack the genes for that. it is known. And western facist can't help themselves to just belief the russians who can't lie. It's just genetics.
I think the XX chromosome would be a good scientific basis for sport in general. What the passport says and whether they were raised with dolls..has 0 bearing on the issue.
Algeria is a very conservative country, do you really think that if she was a boy they will raise her as a girl????? Are you out of your mind!!! She will be in jail!! In islam there is nothing as the woke shit !! Stop attacking a real woman, there is nothing officiel that said that she has a xy chromosoms!! You are attacking a real woman!
yes but, genetics is not that simple: there are people with XX chromosomes who are born with a penis and testicles ("XX male syndrome" which affects one male child in 30,000). There are women who have XY chromosomes but are born with a vagina ("CAIS syndrome" which affects about one female child in 10,000). If chromosomes were the basis for choosing which category to compete in, you would find men with XX syndrome in female categories.
@@francesca-Nim How dare you bring science and logic and reason to this debate? You will get your RUclips account banned for forcing other users to exercise critical thinking.
Just because a person "believes" he or she is a particular gender doesn't make it biologically so and it doesn't make the fight fair. But in the woke culture, beliefs and feelings are more important than facts.
Are you coming crazy ? She is in boxing sport . Just because of crying Carini she has to show you vagina ???? She is in boxing 7 years or so , No woman claiming she is a man with strong punches.
The Olympic spirit is about fairness, integrity, the equal opportunity to compete, and above all, honesty about who human beings really are. See, insulting the intelligence of the public does not help anybody!!
IOC President Thomas Bach gives us the clear definition of what a woman is. If you were born a woman and have been raised as a woman, you are a woman -- which implies that if you were born a man, you are a man -- and anyone who wants to give a new definition, should do so based on science. Thanks a lot for clearing that up, Thomas!
Why does it have to be either/or? This is not logical, and is off topic to say "what about this person, what about that person" By your logic we have to accept something because we accepted another situation in the past. Life isn't always fair.
@hoosierhiver you don't believe in second chances? You really think someone who hadn't fully matured at the age of 19 or w.e has zero chance of turning his life around and becoming a productive member of society?
Just take a second to Google this before further confuse people. After that, man up and return to RUclips to delete your comment or apologize = what men do
Quick DNA testing, XX vs XY chromosomes. Simple test, scientific, and all the people that are saying these are not women would accept them if it turns out they have XX chromosomes. Why would IOC not want that?
Did he say a scientific new way to define a woman? Like we are going to just change how biology works? Organizations really hate to admit when they are wrong about something. To do further testing to determine gender through chromosome testing could possibly make the IOC look bad and like they were wrong. So of course they won't do it.
@@CleoandCoco you implied that he - and his institution - is wrong about her being a woman and he - and his institution - won't admit it. So what are they not admitting if not Imane not being a woman? What else are you implying here? Why **should** they test about chromosomes? Because the right wing and conservative media report that she is a man? Is that the base line now? Random accusations and people should jump and test? How about you tell me why she should be tested in the first place.
Why dont u just make individual olympic games where u can even consider yourself OnePunchMan or Gorlock The Destroyer and there compete with each other?
Hey Tommy, maybe we should just follow the science? And science says a man has XY chromosomes and a woman has XX chromosomes, didn’t you learn that in grammar school Tommy? Hummmm….wow, what am I missing here?
Please give me your sources that she has an xy dna????????????? From where did you get your information ???? Or you are juste following the haters without doing any research on her????? This is a discrimination and she should attack all the haters especially celebrities! Shame on you
@@gerardo2360 of course i will change my opinion!! I am against men pretending to be a woman to win a fight no matter what sport it is, but this case is totaly different, the poor girl lived all her life poor and had to fight to reach this level of competition, she lives in a muslim country where there is no place to a trans woman, woman is woman and man is man, so it's very hard to see all this hate and no one has a real proof of her having a xy dna! It's unfair especially when you know her life, please stop the discrimination and search real proof before attacking her !
@@Dreamy16aklaneIOC should conduct test for all athletes, like they anyway do for other things. It's a simple test and then internet can relax and noone has to be shameful
@@gerardo2360 reported by whom. Who is the source. if you get down the rabbit hole and end up at russians who won't publicise their tests and still claim this is true.. well..
@@Dreagostinibecause they are allowing women with XY chromosomes fight women without XY chromosomes, shame to see really as this can literally do serious harm and potentially kill their opponent as a man hits twice as hard as a female.
What prompted the gender eligibility test for Imane Khelif? What did the results reveal about Imane Khelif? How does the results of the gender eligibility test inform the decision making?
*the russian-run IBA ordered it after she beat a russian boxer. *nothing. *and it shouldn't, aside from the obvious truth this is a work thank you drive home safely
It does count cuz in Algeria being trans is illegal and she can’t transition even if she wanted to sooo yeah maybe get your facts straight before saying anything
@@rayaneloulou98 Your logic is fallicious. Legal restrictions have no connection to the material argument that a document has no bearing on a biological status.
Seems like XX and XY has the most say. The fact that the International Boxing Association says she has XY chromosomes and the IOC avoided saying she is XX which easily would have put the issue to rest, suggest the IBA info was accurate.
Italian boxing did it before with a Turkish boxer at the Tokyo Games Don't go into boxing if your specialty is making pizza Spaghetti and pizza are not the food of athletes Imane Khelif 👸🥊💥
I wanted to ask Mr. Bach about the passport of that smurf from that table but does not look like a serious man :-D By the way, Mr. Bach, my motorcycle was converted into a bicycle, and it is registered as a bicycle. Can I participate in the next cycling race with it?
This guy is a fool. The Italian Boxer clearly was pressured by You guys and had to either say what you told her to say or face penalties. also The Algerian Boxer has a male name and has X and Y Chromosomes and that is a scientific proof.
@@-nyarlathotep-5375 It doesn’t mean Belief, it means faith. Also It’s not a common Girl name. Are you trolling on purpose or are you really that stupid?
@@Lordinos10 both The IOC president and IBC have confirmed it. Even IOC president said just because they have both X and Y Chromosomes, doesn’t mean they are men.
Blame trans activism for this. We now have to define something that was obvious. As for respect for your opponent, as long as they aren't cheating and putting a biological man who identifies as a woman in the ring to fight a biological woman is cheating and disrespectful. THAT is not in the spirit of the Olympics.
Wtf are you talking about!!! She is from a very poor and conservative family, even in her country being trans is illegal and she will go to jail!!!! No officiel analyses said that sje has an xy dna! You are attacking a real woman who trained all her life to obtain this level with all the difficulties that she lived in, stop the hate!! This is a discrimination !!
Boycotting Olympic. I respect minority interest, but this is squeezing the space of female athletes. Why not create a 3rd category for all the controversial athletes?
And what the hell Bach knows about what is to be a woman?? Enough of this nonsense! Carini was in the right to leave the match and was forced to apologize to this guy boxer. She should take back that apology.
As Italians we all know that Galileo was forced to recant, but still the earth revolves around the sun and not viceversa. Angela has apologised but still Khelif has xy chromosomes
First, I want to be clear: I’m against trans women competing in women’s sports, but what’s going on with Khelif and Lin is a mess. Both were assigned female at birth, and changing gender in their conservative countries is nearly impossible. They have female birth certificates and have been competing in women’s sports for years. The IBA keeps changing their story-one moment they talk about high testosterone, the next they deny any testosterone testing. The IBA hasn’t shown clear results or documentation for the disqualifications. Their medical expert provides no real specifics. Khelif and her coach have called the process unfair and the tests useless. This whole situation is a joke. Without clear, reliable testing, no one can be sure about gender. The lack of transparency means we should all be skeptical, as the current methods are confusing and unreliable.
It has come to our attention that there are concerns regarding the International Olympic Committee. There is a prevailing belief that the committee may not possess the requisite qualifications for their current role. The competitive outcomes, where our female participants are being surpassed by these individuals, have left us deeply disillusioned. This situation not only violates the principles of fair play in sports but also presents an injustice to our female athletes.
a passport does not make you a woman, being raised a woman doesn't make you a woman, and actually a birth certificate from Algeria makes you a woman. XY chromosome makes you a man. Period.
Does he address the testing problems? I have heard that her development is a little off normal, and she failed tests in the past. Just be honest about it.
Even Mr Bach himself acknowledged God only created 2 sexes, anything in between is not a female competitor, there is no confusion, no arguments, no debates, it is therefore not defensible Khelif participated in the female category, that simple, no need for any politics in sports, nothing offensive, change the rules and guidelines and tests after Paris. Everyone will be happy.
This is now a completely unnecessary discussion, as all participants are subjected to strict controls before they are allowed to take part in the Olympic Games.
@@AllMight6yet all of us regardless of what background are dıscusted with the remote possibility a male characteristic person beating a female. We are all human and able to connect at some level despite monsters like Israeli politicians
What are your sources? Some random social media comments is not a fiable source btw. Come back with a scientific article or official results, and we will read that together. Because clearly you have the ability to read and think of a 5yo.
Go read IBA's statement from July 31st, 2024 (find it on their webpage -> news): "Point to note, the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential." I bet u will not find any official statement from the IBA, where they claim they found XY chromosomes for Khelif. Now go proof me wrong.
@sca04245 This idea that they found XY chromosomes in Imene is absolutely absurd and unfounded. If Imene had XY chromosomes, she would never be able to compete with women in the Olympics. These rumours are dangerous and immoral, yet people continue to spread them without checking for the right information. When you see that even celebrities are believing and spreading these fake news, you understand that the world has gone crazy.
"DNA tests, which are compulsory for boxers, revealed the presence of XY chromosomes, typical of the male sex, in Khelif's DNA." Thomas Bach: "How can someone who has a passport as a woman not be considered a woman. Passport is a clear definition of a woman."
@@notreal-duh From a biological and genetic perspective, an individual with XY chromosomes is classified as male. If this person has developed male physical characteristics and the genetic testing confirms XY chromosomes, they would be categorized as male for statistical, medical, and biological analysis, regardless of any genetic variations or conditions affecting their development. This classification is based on the chromosomal setup that typically defines male and female sex in humans.
@@FzR123 individuals with XY chromosomes are categorized as genotypic males, not males. sex itself is defined as a collection of characteristics, almost all of which is phenotypic. we don’t define people’s sex by their genes because there are anatomical males with XX chromosomes and anatomical females with XY chromosomes. intersex people like that would be at a disservice if medical professionals categorized them solely by their genes. basically biological categorize sex as a whole list of characteristics, not just one. meaning there is no required characteristic to be a female or male
How come i didn't see this dude talk about Caster Semenya being a woman when the track and field regulations targeted her and kicked her out of the sport.
Athletics fought for years to put barriers on XY people with testes in women's sports. Semenya can participate in women's categories if he lowers his levels of testosterone to less than 5nmol.
Its a honda civic. What i MEANT was, its a honda civic with a SPOON engine, with NOS, AND a motech system exhaust…. ALL Imane is saying is that she CANNOT lose again… and i get that 🤦♂️
She is a woman, people, and she is from Algeria. She only looks masculine in appearance. She is not even trans. So what you are doing is just bullying. Just because her structure is different from women does not mean that she is not female.
Give me your proof that she is a man???? Give me her test dna if you have them or any reliable source that said that?????? Or you are attacking juste to follow all the haters????
This terminology is not even real. It's a word the Ieft made up to make fun of people. It's like calling somone a sissy. This Olympics is the worst. Glad no one is watching it even if they want to continue to lie and claim everyone's watching it. We know it's not true because people are busy working, playing games, watching movies, reading books, and exercising. There's so many other things to do.
Do you know how ridicoulous you sound right now? You do not watch it yet you are here commenting on a video about an incident in the Olympics. Are you slow?
When there is the word transgender there is automatically the word cisgender. As cis- is just the opposing Suffix to trans-. In ALL kind of science. From geography to chemistry to biology to physics. Not only in gender science. 🤷🏻♂️ Its simple logic of language
لم تخضع إيمان خليف في الجزائر لاختبار cfDNA/NIPT أثناء الحمل لتشخيص التشوهات الوراثية والكروموسومية قبل الولادة، ولا بعد الولادة. الخطأ طبي. إن الفشل في تشخيص الكروموسوم الجنسي Y الموجود في إيمان خليف هو سبب الخطأ في نسبة الجنس الأنثوي إلى إيمان خليف. في الواقع، هناك أمراض ناجمة عن شذوذات صبغية وراثية وجنسية مع اختلاف في الاختراق والتعبير الجنسي، بدءاً من متلازمة الخنثى ومتلازمة موريس.
DISGRACEFUL "Olympic Committee Chairman Complains There is ‘No Scientifically Solid System’ to Identify Men From Women"
You are funny really, He is saying that Imane is a woman with vagina . She is a woman .
Now he question you , is there any other way to understand she is a woman or man ?
And yet this guy says that Khelif is clearly a woman. This man is infuriating! 😡
Meanwhile on Reddit: "This discussion is closed. You cannot post comments."
Reddit is cancer. You can even ask a non political question without being straw-manned and bastardized lmao
Reddit is a joke. Can't have any individual opinion on there
Nice! Good job reddit, I should download
Reddit is an echo chamber.
Reddit mods are as terrible as reddit users.
chromosomes are guidlines, not rules.
she has xy but is fully female in anatomy etc.
the neo not see's thought they had a "gotcha" moment and instead merely expressed how stupud they truly are.... again.
To believe chromosomes have no connection to science, makes it cleat that Bach's cranium has no connection to any other purpose than an air chamber.
Who told you that she has an xy dna????? What are your sources ???? IBA never said that!!! Educate yourself before attacking a real woman !!!
Most useful comment read about swyer syndrome. That will end this debate
Excellent answer Mr Aquinas! 💖
Educate yourself from actual doctors before arriving at your uneducated oversimplified conclusions
@montscent7124 That would explain the XY, however, I've never heard swyer syndrome mentioned in relation to Imane, even with all the tests done on him. You can also research 46, XY DSD (Differences of Sexual Development). Men like Imane & Semenya
THIS DIDN’T AGE WELL BECAUSE IT WASN’T TRUE!
The ocean … is a woman …. The moon … is a woman … the North Pole was raised as a woman , born as a woman , and is a woman who identifies as a woman whom is a woman woman woman .
If a russian organisation without publication of their tests say someone is a man that person just is a man. Nothing fishy going on there whatsoever. because russians can't lie. They lack the genes for that. it is known. And western facist can't help themselves to just belief the russians who can't lie. It's just genetics.
Shaloum
You make sense
He is such a disgrace, should have resigned long ago.
I think the XX chromosome would be a good scientific basis for sport in general. What the passport says and whether they were raised with dolls..has 0 bearing on the issue.
Algeria is a very conservative country, do you really think that if she was a boy they will raise her as a girl????? Are you out of your mind!!! She will be in jail!! In islam there is nothing as the woke shit !! Stop attacking a real woman, there is nothing officiel that said that she has a xy chromosoms!! You are attacking a real woman!
yes but, genetics is not that simple: there are people with XX chromosomes who are born with a penis and testicles ("XX male syndrome" which affects one male child in 30,000).
There are women who have XY chromosomes but are born with a vagina ("CAIS syndrome" which affects about one female child in 10,000).
If chromosomes were the basis for choosing which category to compete in, you would find men with XX syndrome in female categories.
@@francesca-Nim How dare you bring science and logic and reason to this debate? You will get your RUclips account banned for forcing other users to exercise critical thinking.
@@prometheus23c
You're right, I'm taking risks for a trivial love of biology.❤️
@@francesca-NimYou know these people aren’t smart enough to understand what you’re saying.
Just because a person "believes" he or she is a particular gender doesn't make it biologically so and it doesn't make the fight fair. But in the woke culture, beliefs and feelings are more important than facts.
Are you coming crazy ? She is in boxing sport . Just because of crying Carini she has to show you vagina ????
She is in boxing 7 years or so , No woman claiming she is a man with strong punches.
The Olympic spirit is about fairness, integrity, the equal opportunity to compete, and above all, honesty about who human beings really are. See, insulting the intelligence of the public does not help anybody!!
IOC President Thomas Bach gives us the clear definition of what a woman is. If you were born a woman and have been raised as a woman, you are a woman -- which implies that if you were born a man, you are a man -- and anyone who wants to give a new definition, should do so based on science. Thanks a lot for clearing that up, Thomas!
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Chromosomes don't matter anymore, and to believe chromosomes have anything to do with science is "hate."
A definition he pulled straight from his a.s.s.
Oh Trust me he will change his opinions when the time comes.
Exactly correct
People freaking out over this, but seemingly ok with the convicted child rapist competing.
NO, I am not happy about that either. The Olympics are a disgrace 😢
I see the opposite; the vast majority are outraged by both absurdities and so many others in these Olympics.
He did his time
Why does it have to be either/or? This is not logical, and is off topic to say "what about this person, what about that person" By your logic we have to accept something because we accepted another situation in the past. Life isn't always fair.
@hoosierhiver you don't believe in second chances? You really think someone who hadn't fully matured at the age of 19 or w.e has zero chance of turning his life around and becoming a productive member of society?
Notice he didn't bring any actual scientific evidence. The IBA just released a video talking about his chromosomes.
Yet IBA didn't released ANY evidence beyond their words...
Why trusting them instantly ?
IBA sent the results 2023 but it doesn’t count now
A great example of incompetent leader.
Science has now proven otherwise, you banned Caster Semenya.
This guy is so happy that Carini apologies.
something fishy behind the closed door.
SHES GOT A VAGAGA
Yes the nasty media propaganda…🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿🇩🇿💯
Hindou racist
I think they threatened her that she would not box there ever again.
In fact the italian SHOULD APOLOGISE because what she did is never acceptable.
XX= WOMAN
XY=MAN
And exception of intersex the rest is just BS.
She's not trans and she's not even intersex. She doesn't have xy chromosomes. She's a biological female
And your point is what exactly? I mean, they don't chromosome test in the Olympics, muppet
Bro, go and read the articles on the iba official site saying the test has never been made and it's just a political thing from one sponsor
Just take a second to Google this before further confuse people. After that, man up and return to RUclips to delete your comment or apologize = what men do
Bro you're just dumb ! It's simple you just don't understand
Absolutely discussing
Shame on the Olympic committee
Quick DNA testing, XX vs XY chromosomes. Simple test, scientific, and all the people that are saying these are not women would accept them if it turns out they have XX chromosomes. Why would IOC not want that?
IOC is an absolute joke 😂
Did he say a scientific new way to define a woman? Like we are going to just change how biology works? Organizations really hate to admit when they are wrong about something. To do further testing to determine gender through chromosome testing could possibly make the IOC look bad and like they were wrong. So of course they won't do it.
What's that gibberish? What are you ranting about?
@@DreagostiniThe fact that people are still confused on what a woman is blows my mind.
@@CleoandCoco and Imane is no woman how?
@@Dreagostini she might be. We just don't know. This guy speaks it like he's looked at her cervix.
@@CleoandCoco you implied that he - and his institution - is wrong about her being a woman and he - and his institution - won't admit it. So what are they not admitting if not Imane not being a woman? What else are you implying here?
Why **should** they test about chromosomes? Because the right wing and conservative media report that she is a man? Is that the base line now? Random accusations and people should jump and test? How about you tell me why she should be tested in the first place.
The biology teacher says Khelif is a man
He needs fired! Olympics are trash anymore.
And russian lies aren't?
Why dont u just make individual olympic games where u can even consider yourself OnePunchMan or Gorlock The Destroyer and there compete with each other?
Clearly paid off
Words don't mean anything anymore, evidently. Not everyone can be a woman in a sane world.
The logic of this guy is totally ridiculous! I can't believe that he is using a passport to define a woman 😂
You are just jealous that is all
@@masterofmastery2834 jealous of?
well yes, she looks more manly than me
When you have doubt, you don’t risk boxers lives. Its very clear that the other “woman” is more “man” than your normal “woman”
And Mike Tyson also was a little girl???
His baggy trunks were always a giveaway that he liked dresses.
No, you are. Because you get riled up because of right wing media. That's for people who are intellectualy pre pubescense.
@@Dreagostiniwhat a coward sympathizer!
Born as a woman or raised as a woman are two completely different things!
Hey Tommy, maybe we should just follow the science? And science says a man has XY chromosomes and a woman has XX chromosomes, didn’t you learn that in grammar school Tommy? Hummmm….wow, what am I missing here?
Please give me your sources that she has an xy dna????????????? From where did you get your information ???? Or you are juste following the haters without doing any research on her????? This is a discrimination and she should attack all the haters especially celebrities! Shame on you
@@Dreamy16aklane You're right, I have no direct proof other than what has been reported, however if it is true, would you change your opinion?
@@gerardo2360 of course i will change my opinion!! I am against men pretending to be a woman to win a fight no matter what sport it is, but this case is totaly different, the poor girl lived all her life poor and had to fight to reach this level of competition, she lives in a muslim country where there is no place to a trans woman, woman is woman and man is man, so it's very hard to see all this hate and no one has a real proof of her having a xy dna! It's unfair especially when you know her life, please stop the discrimination and search real proof before attacking her !
@@Dreamy16aklaneIOC should conduct test for all athletes, like they anyway do for other things. It's a simple test and then internet can relax and noone has to be shameful
@@gerardo2360 reported by whom. Who is the source. if you get down the rabbit hole and end up at russians who won't publicise their tests and still claim this is true.. well..
Its a dude
Genetical test can say its a women XX or men with YX!!! If its a XY men with genetaly anomalies its still a men!
Give me your proof that she has an xy dna????? What are your sources, even IBA never said that!! Some much hate against a real woman!!! Shame on you!
worst olympic ever
Why?
@@Dreagostinibecause they are allowing women with XY chromosomes fight women without XY chromosomes, shame to see really as this can literally do serious harm and potentially kill their opponent as a man hits twice as hard as a female.
@Dreagostindo you really need to ask????
@@steviehope7718 Is this worse than the olympics in Berlin 1936?
@@Dreagostini you are such a fool
The worst Olympics ever!
Without a doubt ! The French are a horrible embarrassment to the human race !
Buffoon.
WOKE VILE 🐪💩
What prompted the gender eligibility test for Imane Khelif? What did the results reveal about Imane Khelif? How does the results of the gender eligibility test inform the decision making?
*the russian-run IBA ordered it after she beat a russian boxer.
*nothing.
*and it shouldn't, aside from the obvious truth this is a work
thank you drive home safely
@@chrisroberts4999Woke hypocrite
@@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386 facts are woke hypocricy now? Man, you are so far gone, you made it full circle to idiocy.
@@Dreagostini you deleted your comment so we know who has proven themselves an idiot.
@@Dreagostiniso it’s a lie? How do you know? Why have the Olympics come out and said they allow people with DSD to compete?
At his age he cant tell what a woman is..he has no business in this job
Passport doesn’t show any proof! We need proofs show us the chromosome tests!
TG ...... en Algerie il ny a pas degénères comme vous .......
Who are you then ? She has higher testosterone that’s it. I have seen women with high testosterone beat the shit out of men. Don’t be so emotional 😭
It does count cuz in Algeria being trans is illegal and she can’t transition even if she wanted to sooo yeah maybe get your facts straight before saying anything
@@rayaneloulou98 Your logic is fallicious. Legal restrictions have no connection to the material argument that a document has no bearing on a biological status.
Most useful comment read about swyer syndrome. That will end this debate
"That ain't no woman, it's a man, man!!"
Austin Powers...
Prove it Pinocchio 🤥
And u 100/100 woman 😂😂😂😂
BOYCOTT THE OLYMPICS!!!!
Why?
BOYCOTT your A$$
because they're whiny little buffoons.
It’s called XY, dip.
Seems like XX and XY has the most say. The fact that the International Boxing Association says she has XY chromosomes and the IOC avoided saying she is XX which easily would have put the issue to rest, suggest the IBA info was accurate.
He says whatever he paid to say. Earth is flat, Elvis Presley still touring, bull like that
Italian boxing did it before with a Turkish boxer at the Tokyo Games
Don't go into boxing if your specialty is making pizza
Spaghetti and pizza are not the food of athletes
Imane Khelif 👸🥊💥
I wanted to ask Mr. Bach about the passport of that smurf from that table but does not look like a serious man :-D By the way, Mr. Bach, my motorcycle was converted into a bicycle, and it is registered as a bicycle. Can I participate in the next cycling race with it?
This guy is a fool. The Italian Boxer clearly was pressured by You guys and had to either say what you told her to say or face penalties. also The Algerian Boxer has a male name and has X and Y Chromosomes and that is a scientific proof.
@@-nyarlathotep-5375 It doesn’t mean Belief, it means faith. Also It’s not a common Girl name. Are you trolling on purpose or are you really that stupid?
Where did you see the X and Y chromosones?
@@Lordinos10 both The IOC president and IBC have confirmed it. Even IOC president said just because they have both X and Y Chromosomes, doesn’t mean they are men.
@@Lordinos10 get fucked requesting private medical records. The IBA confirmed the testing and it wasn’t contested by the banned athletes.
@@bbreezy2060 what testing?
He was found to be a man from a DNA test, both of the questionable boxers were.
Talk is cheap, Thomas. If what you say is true, then prove it by showing the whole world the gender test results.
Blame trans activism for this. We now have to define something that was obvious. As for respect for your opponent, as long as they aren't cheating and putting a biological man who identifies as a woman in the ring to fight a biological woman is cheating and disrespectful. THAT is not in the spirit of the Olympics.
Decide what you actually want. Shall she change her gender, would you be happy. Or just Trump-eetering the bigot sexxist issues?!
Wtf are you talking about!!! She is from a very poor and conservative family, even in her country being trans is illegal and she will go to jail!!!! No officiel analyses said that sje has an xy dna! You are attacking a real woman who trained all her life to obtain this level with all the difficulties that she lived in, stop the hate!! This is a discrimination !!
A fellow walked into a bank. “I identify as a rich playboy, where is my money and where are my women?” Guarddddd!
Assult is assult no matter the venue.
cringe
Boycotting Olympic. I respect minority interest, but this is squeezing the space of female athletes. Why not create a 3rd category for all the controversial athletes?
congratulation homeboy he represented his country well
Where is justice ?? Mr. Tomas
XY ≠ XX (Human being are so advanced that they dispute over someone being a male or female.🤣)
I thought they always say, “trust the science,” but now they just ignore basic biological science!
What about , bones , muscles, mass density , such a dumb
And what the hell Bach knows about what is to be a woman?? Enough of this nonsense! Carini was in the right to leave the match and was forced to apologize to this guy boxer. She should take back that apology.
As Italians we all know that Galileo was forced to recant, but still the earth revolves around the sun and not viceversa. Angela has apologised but still Khelif has xy chromosomes
chromosome test please
All the buzzwords bla bla. But where is the respect forthe real women who have trained and fought against other women?
Yes and Im Batman.
First, I want to be clear: I’m against trans women competing in women’s sports, but what’s going on with Khelif and Lin is a mess. Both were assigned female at birth, and changing gender in their conservative countries is nearly impossible.
They have female birth certificates and have been competing in women’s sports for years.
The IBA keeps changing their story-one moment they talk about high testosterone, the next they deny any testosterone testing.
The IBA hasn’t shown clear results or documentation for the disqualifications.
Their medical expert provides no real specifics.
Khelif and her coach have called the process unfair and the tests useless.
This whole situation is a joke. Without clear, reliable testing, no one can be sure about gender. The lack of transparency means we should all be skeptical, as the current methods are confusing and unreliable.
just because she’s stronger than that lil girl doesn’t make her any less of a woman😂
It has come to our attention that there are concerns regarding the International Olympic Committee. There is a prevailing belief that the committee may not possess the requisite qualifications for their current role. The competitive outcomes, where our female participants are being surpassed by these individuals, have left us deeply disillusioned. This situation not only violates the principles of fair play in sports but also presents an injustice to our female athletes.
Congratulations to Khelif! She won the gold medal as the woman she is. She totally deserved it.
Intersex won the gold. Prove me wrong. Do the test. Thanks.
If I'm X.... I'm men???? 💡💡💡
If I'M XY I'M WONEN 🤔yes I'm right,🤡
a passport does not make you a woman, being raised a woman doesn't make you a woman, and actually a birth certificate from Algeria makes you a woman. XY chromosome makes you a man. Period.
He also said she born as women
Her father brings her birth certificate
Does he address the testing problems? I have heard that her development is a little off normal, and she failed tests in the past. Just be honest about it.
Was never a she ! He has male chromes FACT
He, he is a male. Just because you were raised as a girl does not mean you are one.
He is a Man 100%
Even Mr Bach himself acknowledged God only created 2 sexes, anything in between is not a female competitor, there is no confusion, no arguments, no debates, it is therefore not defensible Khelif participated in the female category, that simple, no need for any politics in sports, nothing offensive, change the rules and guidelines and tests after Paris. Everyone will be happy.
But... but... he was raised in a skirt.....
The Olympics now has domestic violence as a sport!
How is he the director if he doesn’t even know basic human biology?
This is now a completely unnecessary discussion, as all participants are subjected to strict controls before they are allowed to take part in the Olympic Games.
why is she not allowed to fight outside the olympics ?
@@khnizitarba6287 I have no idea about that, sorry 😔
Very clearly they screwed up
@khnizitarba6287 different regions have different standards when it comes to intersex competing
@@AllMight6yet all of us regardless of what background are dıscusted with the remote possibility a male characteristic person beating a female. We are all human and able to connect at some level despite monsters like Israeli politicians
Last year the International Boxing Association’s DNA testing showed that Khelif has XY chromosomes.
What are your sources? Some random social media comments is not a fiable source btw.
Come back with a scientific article or official results, and we will read that together. Because clearly you have the ability to read and think of a 5yo.
Go read IBA's statement from July 31st, 2024 (find it on their webpage -> news):
"Point to note, the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential."
I bet u will not find any official statement from the IBA, where they claim they found XY chromosomes for Khelif. Now go proof me wrong.
@sca04245 This idea that they found XY chromosomes in Imene is absolutely absurd and unfounded. If Imene had XY chromosomes, she would never be able to compete with women in the Olympics.
These rumours are dangerous and immoral, yet people continue to spread them without checking for the right information.
When you see that even celebrities are believing and spreading these fake news, you understand that the world has gone crazy.
If The IOC is lying so th IBA can't Lie ??
Thomas Bach failed biology.
"DNA tests, which are compulsory for boxers, revealed the presence of XY chromosomes, typical of the male sex, in Khelif's DNA." Thomas Bach: "How can someone who has a passport as a woman not be considered a woman. Passport is a clear definition of a woman."
Russia is more considerate than this guy
Is it bullying to wait until two women are pregnant and give birth before admitting they are women?
I really can’t agree with looking at people based on their appearance. They are obviously real women.
Thomas Bach = 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
2024 olympic = most disgraceful olympic.
I thought the real conclusion was that Imane was an intersex person who presented female?
XX chromosome is a woman XY male that is the fact!
that’s not how biologist define sex
@@notreal-duh teach me
@@notreal-duh From a biological and genetic perspective, an individual with XY chromosomes is classified as male. If this person has developed male physical characteristics and the genetic testing confirms XY chromosomes, they would be categorized as male for statistical, medical, and biological analysis, regardless of any genetic variations or conditions affecting their development. This classification is based on the chromosomal setup that typically defines male and female sex in humans.
@@FzR123 individuals with XY chromosomes are categorized as genotypic males, not males. sex itself is defined as a collection of characteristics, almost all of which is phenotypic. we don’t define people’s sex by their genes because there are anatomical males with XX chromosomes and anatomical females with XY chromosomes. intersex people like that would be at a disservice if medical professionals categorized them solely by their genes.
basically biological categorize sex as a whole list of characteristics, not just one. meaning there is no required characteristic to be a female or male
How come i didn't see this dude talk about Caster Semenya being a woman when the track and field regulations targeted her and kicked her out of the sport.
Athletics fought for years to put barriers on XY people with testes in women's sports.
Semenya can participate in women's categories if he lowers his levels of testosterone to less than 5nmol.
Leave this girl alone
Anyway... they want the gold... the ball at the Olympics!! The Paris Olympics in France are so disgusting!!
So how does he defend the trans woman who is set to compete in the paralympics?
Its a honda civic. What i MEANT was, its a honda civic with a SPOON engine, with NOS, AND a motech system exhaust…. ALL Imane is saying is that she CANNOT lose again… and i get that 🤦♂️
What is a "cis" woman?
SHE ACTUALLY PUNCHED THE WESTERN WORLD 😂
❤IMÁN KHALIFA
I wonder how much money or what treat they told the Italian to make that excuse.
If something happens to a biological woman who boxes this "woman". This guy should be sued!!!!!
Passports don't lie 😂
And also, birth certificates don't lie
Who is " *we* "? 🤨
She is a woman, people, and she is from Algeria. She only looks masculine in appearance. She is not even trans. So what you are doing is just bullying. Just because her structure is different from women does not mean that she is not female.
Khelif playing false!!!! This guy did not deserve to win! Fake fake fake
Give me your proof that she is a man???? Give me her test dna if you have them or any reliable source that said that?????? Or you are attacking juste to follow all the haters????
This terminology is not even real. It's a word the Ieft made up to make fun of people. It's like calling somone a sissy. This Olympics is the worst. Glad no one is watching it even if they want to continue to lie and claim everyone's watching it. We know it's not true because people are busy working, playing games, watching movies, reading books, and exercising. There's so many other things to do.
Do you know how ridicoulous you sound right now? You do not watch it yet you are here commenting on a video about an incident in the Olympics. Are you slow?
When there is the word transgender there is automatically the word cisgender. As cis- is just the opposing Suffix to trans-.
In ALL kind of science. From geography to chemistry to biology to physics. Not only in gender science. 🤷🏻♂️
Its simple logic of language
Where is the proof that he was born as a woman?!
لم تخضع إيمان خليف في الجزائر لاختبار cfDNA/NIPT أثناء الحمل لتشخيص التشوهات الوراثية والكروموسومية قبل الولادة، ولا بعد الولادة. الخطأ طبي. إن الفشل في تشخيص الكروموسوم الجنسي Y الموجود في إيمان خليف هو سبب الخطأ في نسبة الجنس الأنثوي إلى إيمان خليف. في الواقع، هناك أمراض ناجمة عن شذوذات صبغية وراثية وجنسية مع اختلاف في الاختراق والتعبير الجنسي، بدءاً من متلازمة الخنثى ومتلازمة موريس.
Wait until AI robots are taught how to box.
Thomas Bach will say: AI robots are human beings
Shame on you
XX
XY
XYZ
.. and what’s next?
Lies, wicked, woke, 💀!
Shame on you IOC!
He talking BS 💩
So do you
Got the passport after all the identiy had been changed underground