One D&D - World Reveal Trailer
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2022
- Visit dndbeyond.com/one-dnd and help shape the future of the next generation of Dungeons & Dragons.
One D&D is the code name for the next generation of D&D, bringing together three initiatives that will shape the future of the game:
--D&D Rules. This takes what we love about fifth edition and updates the rules of the game to reflect the feedback we have heard from players and where the game is today.
--D&D Beyond. This will be the platform for your digital D&D collection, content, and tools.
--D&D Digital Play Experience. In early development, the D&D Digital play experience will offer an immersive player experience, rich creation tools for Dungeon Masters, and a connected space for DMs and players to get together and play D&D.
Our goal is to give you more D&D wherever you play, whenever you want.
D&D Studio (In order of appearance)
Jeremy Crawford, Game Design Architect
Makenzie De Armas, Game Designer
Amanda Hamon, Senior Game Designer
Chris Cao, VP D&D Digital
Chris Perkins, Game Design Architect
Ray Winninger, Creative Director
Emi Tanji, Art Director
Kale Stutzman, Principle Game Designer D&D Digital
Carlo Arellano, Principle Art Director D&D Digital
#dnd #dungeonsanddragons #onednd 
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Please don't close the 3d system out from third party content, the community is always the living heart of new systems
You know they will. They want to microtransaction the hell out of you. If they allow you to import your own content they won't be able to nickel and dime you.
They will. They 100% will. They're a company. They don't care about us. So fully expect that it'll all be first party.
@@Valkier_Kato we just won't use it. problem solved.
Lol just make your own rules
@@Valkier_Kato why would they do stuff that would upset their players, and make the game less fun?
The point of OneD&D and with 5e in general, is to shape an edition that is somewhat formed by the players
If you own a digital copy of a book, you should have the digital minis of creatures in that book
That would be so cool and would probably get me to double dip on books so I can have them physical and the digital minis
You know damn well they ain’t gonna do that lmao
@@NoxiD-20 lol totally. But let us dream
If you own the book you should have a digital copy of the book on dnd beyond... it should come with a 1 time use key or something.
(Looks at foundry vtt, roll20 and others when buying modules be pathfinder adventures, 3rd party content, etc that provides those.) what you talking about? WotC is making and innovative and super accepting business idea :D (sarcasm)
Sorry if plugging pf2 but gotta say it. At least if you buy their adventures on foundryvtt they provide the maps, notes, tokens, soundtracks and give you a copy of the pdf of that at no additional cost.
Took them 6 min of fluff to avoid saying "We want to make a boat load of money selling digital minis" 🤣
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain…"
- Mark Carrigan
No shame in being the corporate villain, but a cartoony one who didn't read the Evil Overlord's List,... geez Hasbro, I think you overdid it with tge "push your luck" mechanics.
3D game board, goes accordingly to “you would own nothing and you will be happy “
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE include the artists mame next to the images they made in every book. I loved that about older editions
they're trying to create a controllable platform from which homebrew and third party will be quashed. you think they care about crediting their workers?
@Soinas Doyi what are you talking about? Do you think players are dumb enough to not realize this is an entirely different edition? This is a pretty bad take.
This feels like a memo to shareholders of Hasbro. It’s pure marketing.
And a love letter to Black Rock and their ESG scoring system for corporations.
I worry that people who play "homebrew" adventures and not published ones, will find this new system very unfriendly or restrictive to their creativity. I hope it will allow for easily creating your own campaigns. 🤞🏻
And apply rules changes of our own. Because some of what I've heard so far, will not be applied to any games I run.'
@@liminalwraith agreed! House rules can be important!!
Don't worry. It will absolutely restrict your creativity.
But if you play homebrew games, which I do, surely you never need a product or supplement again, coz you know the secret recipe now, and can do what you like forever more. :)
Don't worry. There are a thousand other systems that are much better than D&D5e for the DM.
I'm just concerned about how heavily they will monetize the minis. I already spend enough on physical ones and not looking forward to rebuilding at a similar price.
It would be cool to get physical/digital minis too. Buy the blister and get access to a digital version of the same thing. 😂
Make no mistake, Hasbro (WOTC) is a corporation that has a singular purpose: Take your money.
and this could also make creating homebrew very hard
@@chigchong2805 not really, DND Beyond already allows for homebrew items and since this is still going to use Beyond as the backbone of the digital medium and they said the VTT they will allow you to make your own dungeons once the engine is finalized, I don't see it as getting in the way.
It will cost so much less it will make you smile. The maintenance involved is where cost comes from though epic serves bases negate that not to mention their being grid optional.....
I want flexibility, freedom, and affordability. Bringing everything into one space increases WotCs control, meaning that it reduces ours. The 3d digital setup means that you can't just import googled or self-created art - if you haven't bought the specific map or miniature from them, you are stuck. INFINITE flexibility, and real-time group creativity, are what make TRPGs the fantastic thing they are, compared to other types of games. Let's not forget that D&D is a business, and innovations are intended to take money out of our pockets and put it into theirs.
That's true! While they could play nice and allow platforms like Foundry to use your purchased source material with tools that gather the information from their site, they can always argue about this coming at a cost of losing any drm control of the scraped material and start to make things difficult for us. Thus far they have been nice as you buy for the content anyway (you do, right?) and they haven't had any competing VTT of their own. But I'm sure it's going to be fine... 😬
Straight facts, a lot of people in the comments seem unconcerned but you are on point. The tendency of elites is to invest in anything that becomes popular and monetize the hell out of it. This has happened with video games in the past few decades thru microtransactions and games as a service models leading in an overall decline in the quality of many games. DnD is surging in popularity currently and the corporate yuppies are frothing at the mouth to turn it into a cash cow.
I was just thinking about that. It's a big reason I won't use any 3d vtt. 1 it will cost me for the 3d models as tokens but more importantly, it's going to take FOREVER to set up.
2d maps and art hunting take me long enough as it is I could imagine having to do everything 3d
Can you just chill out for a second and just see how things play out ?
@@PredatorH2O Can you just chill out for a second and allow me to give feedback? You know - like they actually want us to?
"Races are given advantages or limits mainly because the whole character of the game would be drastically altered if it were otherwise." - Gary Gygax - June 1978 - Preface page 6, Advanced Dungeons & Dragon Player's Handbook.
Playing outside of stereotypes is a challenge, but it should be. The Smart Orc Wizard isn't going to be easy, but everyone at the table will be impressed, and you are going to have a good time.
They said they wanted to get rid of the word "race" in their core rulebooks entirely.
As I see it, there are two words they could replace it with. Ethnicity and Species. What I suspect they'll do is refer to the proper races as species and the subraces as ethnicities. So high-elf, wood-elf, and drow will be Elvish ethnicities, while Elves and Humans will be seperate species.
Again, that's just my speculation. Getting rid of half-orcs and half-elves, as I heard they'll do, would make sense, as calling humans and elves different species would imply a half-elf to be the equivalent of a mule to a horse and a donkey or a liger to a lion and a tiger.
@@TheBeastCH It's so ironic... the fact that they include these other races makes us realize that we are all "human". Why change it? I think it's great that they use the term "race" to describe non-human species.
So here are my biggest concerns when it comes to this whole thing:
1.) I hope they go back and revise how some of the base classes work. Trying to use subclasses for a long time to balance out weaker classes like Sorcerer, Warlock and Ranger has caused some issues. If they can go back and tweak the existing classes and subclasses to make them a bit better, i'll be happy.
2.) I hope they add better homebrew support for D&D Beyond. As someone who makes a lot of homebrew (especially items) D&D Beyond's charatcer sheet is such a pain to use because you just can't add that stuff onto it. You pretty much HAVE to use official material, which sucks. Just let me edit the damn sheet I want to edit it.
3.) They need to play nice with 3rd party products and creations. This could very easily go down a path where they try and stop smaller creators and items that aren't official from being published. This can be anything from simple homebrew online, to spellbook apps, to entire published homebrew books and other projects. If they throw their weight around, it can very quickly turn into what Nintendo does to fan games. And this WILL hurt D&D. It won't kill it, but it will leave a nasty scar. Let's hope things don't go down this route.
@@rafaelantoniobazzanadossan9451 What are you talking about? The ranger has been a rugged survivalist with limited access to druidic magic since Advanced Dungeons & Dragons (1st edition). The "archer" archetype that does nothing but shoot arrows is already filled by playing a DEX-based fighter (or even a rogue, depending on your vision for the character).
I think a lot of people who first discovered D&D with 5th Edition come into it armed with a lot of preconceptions based in the language of action video games, where terms like ranger, archer, and hunter might as well be interchangeable. There are some legitimate criticisms of the original 5th edition Ranger design, but that's got nothing to do with the flavor of the class itself, as that hasn't changed much in decades.
@@rafaelantoniobazzanadossan9451 I agreed with your assessment of the ranger for a long time, until I was shown a very crucial point: the ranger has the capabilities of all those mentioned classes (and arguably more), and can do all of them pretty well without sacrificing its ability to do other things. Fighters might be better on the front lines or with bows, but they generally lack a useful amount of magic or the ability to be stealthy and a competent scout. Rogues are great scouts, but they're completely screwed if they're caught alone. Druids have fantastic magical abilities and can sit on the front line pretty well in Beast form, but those two things tend to be mutually exclusive for most of the game. Do they outshine the ranger in doing those specific things? Sure. But the ranger can do all of them at the same time, even if it's at the cost of not excelling at any one skill or task in particular. That, IMO, is what makes the ranger so useful.
@@newhampshirean Totally agree as someone who has been playing since 1986!! Let's not forget that the Ranger was originally based upon LOTR's Aragorn a "Ranger of the North".
The only thing you can't homebrew on dndbeyond is classes. Everything else is doable
Point 2: homebrew support. Veey unlikely to be added, because you can just import official books that they say you have to buy on dnd beyond first, even though you already own them.
It's a company, and they want to monopolise the wallet of the huge d&d community
So happy that they'll finally be bundling digital and physical. I hope there's some way to 'redeem' past physical purchases though I won't hold my breath on that one.
Seriously. I don't really use DnD beyond past character and encounter creation because I have physical books and I'm not going to "rebuy them" for digital.
It would be impossible for them to somehow keep track of what you own. I have also spend too much on double purchases. So just that they seem to look into that is nice
It's dumb and I can't wait until digital only content be ones official. You will own nothing and like it
100000% it seems like they’re learning how to use dnd beyond effectively, i’m hoping and praying for this
They should get rid of physical books completely - they do absolutely nothing better than digital books. Why should digital be held back by the limitations of paper?
Digital D&D looks and sounds exactly like Table Top Simulator but will probably cost $20/month and not just a one time payment of $20. But hey, it will probably integrate your character sheet.
Which can already be done with things other than TTS. The maps for things like Roll20 and FantasyGrounds may not be 3d, but they both have character sheets - and monster stats in FG, at least - built right into the software.
Its becoming clear to me I am too poor for D&D
(looks at foundryvtt, a more friendly trpg community application with modules to dndbeyond and other sources to make sessions streamed line and modules are free) yeah this vtt that wotc is making can go burn in a hole. its blatant what it is on trying to control content and make sure ppl know less about other trpgs existing. like it is what is is with them going more corpo in the last 2 years and ppk have predicted if they made a vtt they would do this if given th chance. sadly from info out for it its exactly that.
avoid this vtt they make ppl. your much better off using foundryvtt, roll20 and others that exist, better for the trpg community and have more features then what wotc will give for this cash grab/segregating vtt.
@@allenfogarty2384 Honestly there's lots of resources out there to... cheapen the process. I'd be more specific, but I'm pretty sure that the comment would be immediately smashed with a hammer. This one still might be.
@@dungeonmaster16 I already bought hard copes of the books and for D&D Beyond and for Fantasy Grounds.
D&D "ONE" is just 6e and I cant afford that.
I been missing GURPS anyway.
The more I learn about the future of D&D, the more I'm getting interested in Pathfinder...
Play first edition pathfinder and you will never need another system.
I first hated pathfinder the first few sessions I played but that was because I didn't realize how much I could actually do and customize and create a character that feels 3D from the get go. My group just finished a 1 year campaign on pathfinder and it was incredible. The range and depth those characters reached....amazing.
@@stefanzaric2111 actually, just play lots of different systems
there's no reason to stick to just one
Do it. It takes a little work to get into if you don't have someone to know it, but the pfsrd is fantastic as a resource. Having more systems under your belt is always good, it expands your abilities. You learn that there's more to a setting than flavor, different rule types legitimately do give games different feels, even with similar styles.
Agree with the people recommending it. I'd go 1e Pathfinder as it's mostly compatible (with adjustments) to 3.5e D&D, which itself is mostly compatible with 3e D&D, giving you an absurd amount of content at your disposal. It's also the king of customization. Got into D&D when 5e was new, have always preferred 3e/3.5/Pathfinder 1e systems despite initially stumbling into them cause I got the wrong books for Christmas.
My first stop on my way to tabletop gaming was D&D 5e because it got us AWAY from screens.
I wish you all the ONE D&D fans happy adventuring as we'll be sticking to tabletop games with exclusively tangible components and no room for microtransactions, subscriptions, or the risk of losing things I've paid for if servers are shut down.
Yeah this seems like the same push as 4E with more emphasis but with emphasis on digital board/minis over physical ones.
‘D&DOne’ isn’t an inherently online thing. It’s a number of reworked rules for tabletop D&D and a number of additional tools, some of which are online. It’s no different to D&D Beyond with 5e - use it if you wish, but it’s not required.
i have a feeling that the first few years wotc is going to make it entirely optional but they will probbly try to nudge more new players into going digital and try to replace psychical players
The reason i got into dnd was the fact that, aslong as i have the books, they cant screw it up since i can jsut ignore them and play on old rules onwards
@@bessieburnet9816 Never said it wasn't
The woman talking at 00:25 has my condolences, because she must have had a very stunted imagination as a child. I can only hope she didn't let that problem get in the way of enjoying fantasy works.
Same. im POC and been playing since 3rd edition as a kid and grew up reading the Dragonlance and Drizzt novels. It was easy to envision myself as Tanis Half-Elven or Drizzt as a kid. I could always envision myself going on these adventures. Never cared that Tanis was white and Drizzt is midnight black. It's all about the character's personality not the color of their skin.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, I beg that they don’t leverage this system to oust second/third party content. I think the world of open source gaming is incredible and a real boon to the community. If you have this robust system specifically designed for official products, the community around second/third party and homebrew content is going to suffer.
Don't worry, this push is obviously designed to increase WOTC's capability of directly profiting off of 3rd party content, which is effectively free revenue without effort on their part. Expanding marketing to a much wider demographic and effectively utilizing a digital acquisitions pipeline, while still offering discrete and highly desirable physical content (whether books or minis), will just increase their profit margins sizeably while simultaneously increasing their "dependence" on third party content and DLC (physical and digital). The future of D&D is one where WOTC clearly intends to do less themselves, by making it possible for everybody else to do *much more.* It seems like they're taking what they've learned from the DMs Guild and applying it, writ large, to their entire line of products, while ensuring they offer a highly standardized and universal "core" set of tools (books and the software itself) for said third party content creators to utilize. When the produced 3rd party content is up to a sufficient standard they can purchase it outright (as they retain the right to do of all homebrew created on DMs Guild, for instance) and integrate it into direct products, like the Candlekeep Mysteries and Radiant Citadel books (they're likely to lean on more releases like that, where the vast majority of the content is sourced by 3rd parties but organized under a centralized, WOTC-led project management structure that can ensure maximum revenue potential).
Suffer.
They'll probably corner it by having more advanced design products be behind a paywall so third party-ers will need to pay to create. they even talk in this video about we directing d&d & homebrew content (without mentioning homebrew) + us being able to design our own maps etc. WOTC would be the stupidest company every if they tried to curtail people from using homebrew at all.
It’s all about the money my dude
3rd party content is often free advertising for them lol, they won’t.
If anything, they’re like Bethesda.
The release half-baked products and just let other people fix and modify it for free on their part.
My biggest worry as I’m sure some players are, is that wizards of the coast is going to micro transaction practically everything on there. This example may be a little extreme but I don’t want to pay $.99 for every single goblin token
They have to make money somehow. But I agree. It would make more sense if they charged for the models, perhaps with slight variations available, or did model bundles for official adventure content similar to how Epic Encounters gives you a fun dungeon adventure along with all the minis you need to run the encounter.
1:41 "we aren't going to take away or remove anything or like anything that you all love"
The OGL: 👁👄👁
TLDR they said 3 things:
1) No 6th edition any time soon, just little tweaks on 5e. (so short rests, bonus actions and other core game mechanics are here to stay!)
2) Digital/Physical bundling of books is in the works
3) D&D Beyond is getting its own VTT
I think they're gonna revise a lot of things in the core rules (including short rests when you look at their latest release and updates).
They said a while back when they did the first announcement for this that it was gonna be backward compatible with the other 5e expansion books like XGE and TCE tho.
Best comment, thank you.
@@xogdo5260 I disagree; I think they will continue to tweak a lot of character abilities, but leave the majority of the core rules alone.
If they change short rests at all, I would expect a reduced duration. Although, if you look at the UA material from today it's already been clarified that an interrupted long rest counts as already taking a short rest, so long as at least 1 hour has already passed. This is a good example of the types of changes I would expect in core rules going forward; lots of little clarifications that don't really change anything.
The bundling is already incoming. Got an e-mail today about the upcoming Dragonlance release in December, and the standard edition for $60ish dollars includes the physical book and a digital copy.
I think no new editions at all, they're just gonna call it D&D and make new core books when they feel like it.
The unique feature of D&D is that it isn't digital. It's empowering having at least one thing that doesn't require tech or subscribing to a corporation.
A lot of newer players are playing virtually. A lot of people started during lockdown as something to do with friends they couldn’t see. I can understand why wotc have decided to create a digital product.
Yes, D&D is the only non-digital game on the planet. So unique. Lmao.
It can be digital. In fact if not for online tabletops Im willing to bet it wouldnt be as popular as it is today. You can choose to not play online,but don’t pretend dnd is only for real life groups
@@sarahhiggins1515 as a person who...
1. Is in fact new to DND
2. Lives in a social nowhere
I can confirm going digital is a Bahamut send
I mean good for you if you can find a IRL game but a lot of people have no choice but to play over the internet and this kind of thing would be a fantastic asset
“We did a smart thing with 5th Edition, by listening to the fans. And what came from the process is a system that is stable, that is well loved-“
*New OGL is leaked*
I noticed that in the video they talk about how they want all the tools in one place. I think that great, but the reason there are so many tools scattered online is because they are free and your tools are expensive as hell. I can understand myself dropping maybe 100$ on books but to drop another 100$ on digital tolls and then ask all my players to do the same is just not DnD is.
So my question is, are you going to make your digital component of DnD (tools, database, models, etc...) Expensive?
I understand wizards of the coast is a company, and companys need to make money. I'm just wondering how you are going to do it? And why me, (the customer) should use your tools, when I can already get them for free!
Lol I have most of the sourcebooks for 3,5:e. Cost me way more than I'd like to admit. I was never going to go again for 5:e. I use what my friends have and I build homebrew around it.
DnD beyond has a sourcebook bundle you can buy to make sure you have ALL their characte options etc. 500 bucks. That is an insane price.
Actually, the 3rd party tools exist because Wizards didn't make any of these tools before. Wizard's has seen what fans want based on what they have been paying others to create and they are going to offer it themselves. I'm here for it. I started playing TTRPGS in late 2017 and the first thing I wanted was a better version of Hero Lab for 5E so I invested in DnD Beyond. That service has gotten better every year since I bought the $300 Legendary Bundle in March 2018. I have never regretted that purchase. That allowed me access to every 5E book through Dungeon of the Mad Mage. And I've received a discount on every book I've purchased since then. If you buy every physical 5E hardcover, you will spend way more than $300 or even $500. This hobby can certainly be had on the cheap but I'm an adult who has way less time than I would like so I'm more than happy to pay someone else to do the prep things that I don't care about doing. Let's please not discourage the thing that took Wizard's 8 years to figure out by griping about the price point we don't even know yet.
@Summer Zachary
So what's it like to work for WotC?
They make plenty of money already. And they need to be alright with not having a monopoly on a game that runs on our imaginations.
To the developers of this I say everything I just said above plus the ubiquitous 90s "Duh"
"The sort of change you're going to see, isn't about taking anything away from you, isn't about changing any of that stuff that you love. It's much more about giving you more... Basically we're very happy with the game the way it is today, we just want to build on that." One sentence later, "We're revising the major core rulebooks." HMMMM.
"One D&D has three pillars, and one is the ruleset which is built on the base of 5th edition, but updated" So it's another edition, piggybacking on the previous edition, to the point it's basically an edit of 5th and is going to make the products I have and the new ones confusing to use together. I mean they have to be different enough to warrant purchasing them, but they are all usable together. SO now we're going to have 5th ed classic, and ONE D&D (which sounds weirdly like some kind of religous or political reform party) and as things are updated people are gonna be looking up rules and bouncing back and forth with these changes. I'd rather they just launched 6th ed, because then they wouldn't fiddle with the crap I already like and have and muddle things. I can enjoy new things, I don't enjoy my old things being messed with later (The whole thing with Volo's and MToF being dropped and a new book full of their stuff launched, really annoyed me.)
2e and 2e Revised were still compatible. This is just 5e revised.
@@Tensen01 That was a pretty different situation. They basically just wanted to pretty up the books, and added some products of optional rules and stuff (from what I can tell. To be fair, I wasn't playing at the time). This seems closer to 3.5's changes, though it's fiddling about with more fundamental stuff than even in that one. They are looking at altering some core rules (for better or worse depending on your perspective).
These changes are "compatible" in the sense that you could use them in the same adventures, and it shouldn't destabilize things over much, but not in the sense that you could say, use a dwarf from the new PHB with it's background and things, and then use one from the 5e PHB in the same game without it being confusing, and potentially "unbalanced".
I mean it's not impossible to work them together, but if these rules go forward, it's not like these changes are nothing. They are changing various definitions and core rules, that has a knock on effect when it comes to compatibility. It also has a big effect on third party market products, and what products are considered legit, and what are "Out of date".
Preach
Why make something new If you can sell the same thing in a different color again?
They dont care about the players or community. Hasbro cares only about their shareholders pockets.
... Im should buy some of those shares, they will make lodes on those microtransactions for miniatures.
THIS! I AGREE 100% WITH YOU!
Alright I'll stop screaming now, but yes, this is basically my thoughts as well
I started playing DnD way back.
I now believe the most important components of a great RPG experience are 1) good RPGers, 2) imagination, 3) really simple rules and 4) dice.
I dropped DnD years ago for a simple rules-lite system and have never had so much fun.
I think that’s the idea with the revised phb. It’s gonna make things even simpler and streamlined
the most important is to have players with tons of free time, which is rare.
D&D rules are mostly related to dungeon crawling, they are specific in their usage
"really simple rules
spoken like a true 5e player lmao
@@MrJayberry176 The basic rules for my current RPG fit onto 2 sides of A4.
Not sure 5E can be condensed to that :)
"We want to show that the person you are can appear in the world..."
Yeah, they're called commoners. People don't play fantasy games to be who they are, they want to be Raistlin Majere, Tifa Lockhart, Conan the Barbarian. Andy the carpenter doesn't go on adventures to slay dragons, he makes cabinets.
Twitter generation.
Narcissistic mentality to have yourself represented in everything, especially in a fantasy game.
The thing is if you want to play a character exactly as you are then you can. That’s not something new they’re introducing. Dnd has always been great for diversity because you can literally be anything you want to be. But I don’t think she meant exactly who she is but her mannerisms, personality, looks etc. An adventurer is an adventurer because of their extraordinary abilities.
I doubt she was suggesting that you, exactly as you are from the real world, should be placed in a fantasy setting. What if you were born as a sorcerer with a natural ability to wield magic? What if you were born an orc with strength far superior to world class human athletes? You’d still be YOU, but you’d also be able to go on these adventures and do these awesome things.
That’s the whole point of a role playing game. YOU play a role. If you want to pretend to be an evil wizard or an upstanding paladin, that’s fine. But you can also just be you. Well, a stronger/more magical version of you.
Andy the carpenter is gonna be my next character now.
straight facts!
i find it hard to believe every group i ever played d&d with were somehow exceptional in that they all allowed everyone to play any kind of character they wanted to. i could play some one that looked like me or maybe didn't, one that acted like me or maybe didn't, really any kind of person i ever wanted to be- and yet that seems to be a big part of what you're suggesting. has it really taken you 48 years to reach the point where you feel everyone can play d&d, because everyone i ever knew that had the tiniest interest were welcomed at the tables i played at. i don't think there's anything to be ashamed of about d&d's past and it's sad that it seems you don't feel the same way.
Preach 🙌🙌🙌
Hit it on the head.
I'm confused by the attitude, that if you can't see yourself in a thing, then it's bad. What happened to empathy?
Never mind the fact that if you wanted, you can literally be yourself in a DND campaign. Or anything else.
I honestly wonder if these marketing talking heads actually play the game.
If there's a game with pictures of nothing but white dudes playing, and the art is like 95%+ white dudes or sexy eye candy babes, then it's not hard to imagine a person thinking "this games not for me"
This isn't rocket science
@@Crushanator1 but this game isn't what you just described... You are using very charged wording with extreme examples, so I don't think your logic applies here. I've never seen a d&d product with 95+% white males / eye candy women lol. Also I want to advocate that there is nothing wrong with being or seeing a white male or a woman that is sexy. I think what you are trying to say is that we just want variety, which I am all for.
@@LazyAnnihilator because these people don't have any empathy, they're nacassists and will throw out the worst possible insults, even racial, at you if you don't fit into their world view
“We no longer think of D&D as an edition” until the sales dip
I mean that's probably why they are ditching yjr edition thing. They dint want another 4e fiasco
@@Direwolf181 yeah but that only works out if the current edition is still well liked.
The only thing that gives me hope is how negative the response from DMs and players seems to be. We can all see where this is headed.
I’ll just stick to 5e for now.
Don't just stick to 5e, try other systems too, one of the big frustrations in TTRPG right now is how difficult it is to find people willing to play something other than D&D.
@@goukeban6197 I like Savage Worlds
@@goukeban6197 thats good, RPG players and DMs are rare and there are too many games
This is the way, he has spoken!
Yeah I also will likely stick to 5e, as both a player and a DM, I don’t feel like completely relearning the rules. However, I did recently get dragged into Pathfinder by a close friend we met at a strategy game convention and we are planning on playing a campaign for that soon (once I get the hang of the rules, although I must say I love how much you can customize your character in Pathfinder!). But yeah, from everything that I’ve heard so far, I absolutely hate One D&D
The whole "no more editions" and "it is just D&D" really worries me. I really hope the new core books will be labeled as 5.5 edition. Not having a proper edition number for the rule changes is going to create so much confusion and frustration for players that I am not looking forward to as DM :(
It doesn’t need to be labelled. You can just say “hey we’re using the new rules” or “we’re gonna stick with the original”. Or if you want to hybrid it then you let your players know which rules you will be following for what but also as the dm your ruling is final. Its the same when people play with optional rules.
@@sarahhiggins1515 No. you can't. Edition familiarity/loyalty is still a thing and this intentional lack of clarity will absolutely cause problems. At least until the community labels this 6e despite what the marketing claims.
@@AnonAdderlan but since its all 5e I dont understand what you mean by edition loyalty. You can still use all the 5e content with this new 5e content.
they're going to hawk D&D as a "games service" thing. no control over rules, homebrew, nothing. big brother wotc will push updates onto your table as they please and will make you play for the "privilege" of having such benign overlords
@@FlameQwert This is nonsense. There is no indication of any of that. The stuff they're producing is still for ttrpg. Theyre creating one service for those that want to play virtually. Its absolutely not mandatory. And I doubt they would ever go down that route and alienate a large portion of their audience. Because every time a new edition releases, people continue to play the old one and not buy into the new one. Which is exactly why they've decided not to do 6e and instead just create more content that works with 5e.
This announcement is a bit of a mixed bag for me. On one hand, all of these tools and continued building is good to see. On the other hand, however, WotC is is notorious for how they handle "ownership" of anything on their websites: They don't "own" the content that you make, but they do reserve the right to license the things that you make, without paying, notifying, or crediting you.
The new Dragonlance book is one of these "Digital Physical Bundles." You can buy the Physical copy for $29.99, both copies for $59.94. Thank goodness you guys came in so we can all save the $0.06. Also make sure you account for the $12.00 shipping cost.
The best part is that LGSs are cut out of the equation too, so that Hasbro can rake in the profits from digital margins.
Um, not sure what math you are doing but the physical copies of hard covers are at least $49.99 from the game store at release and the DnD Beyond version is at least $30. I've been getting discounts on DDB but $60 for both digital and physical books + 2 weeks of early access on DDB before you can even get the physical book in stores is MORE than an incentive for me to buy.
@@summerzachary6074 You should do 5 minutes of research on DDB. If you have been paying $50 for books, get a new retailer. I have screenshots of this issue.
Killing the OGL and the community it created is a bad move. That's an euphemism.
People here seem worried about the potential spiralling costs of their hobby, and I agree with them. But if you think about it, the main reason the pricing is scary is because of the growing dependency on digital. Newer players especially have become accustomed to digital support being the norm. The rise of the pandemic also moved more players towards VTTs, normalising this type of play.
At its core, D&D is a tabletop game that you play with friends in the same room (ideally). You only ever actually need the core rulebooks. So, the thing I found most worrisome about this video in terms of cost was the constant reference to “more” stuff. We already have a lot of products filled with more options, and that’s extremely costly if you indulge in all of it, and it looks like your pocket will be picked on more than one occasion if you continue down this route with the evolving edition.
D&D can be an extremely cheap game to play. You just have to choose where to draw the line with your purchases and develop your imagination to grow the game you want to play.
I agree. Also, their new version is not making any of your current materials obsolete to those who pick up the new stuff. You don't have to use all the new digital stuff if you don't want.
From a company/creative perspective, ESPECIALLY after the pandemic, providing the digital boards/maps/and minis that their customers have been spending millions on with other companies/Kickstarter/Patreon it would be foolish not to provide their own service. Especially consider they still produce and release the main big campaigns. It'd be dumb for them to put out a new campaign like Curse of Stradh as nothing but a book, knowing their customers would go out and buy minis, maps or map-making software, art, etc to use in the campaign they produced. It makes way more sense from their perspective to offer all the materials their customers are using.
The market is soooo saturated with groups making maps, software, minis, art, etc. They HAD to offer their own stuff eventually.
Cheap to play? Yes.
Just the books and paper/ pencil is what we always used along with dice. Sometimes maps.
I've been playing the game for years and I have never bought a single thing from wotc. I printed my player handbook on my schools printer with the allowance I get for printing and literally any book you can get for free in pdf format. you really don't even need the books, you can just google any question you have. I hand craft terrain with trash and 3d print minis for $0.25.
More is good. You dont have to buy it, just get what you want. Don't ruin it for those who want more options.
@@mrfrupo Pirating books just makes it more expensive for those who buy legitimately.
0:05 Jeremy Crawford is the kiss of death for any version of D&D. We could just stop the video right there.
Keep in mind he's the one who said centaurs could not use lances because they were not mounted. That was his legit ruling. Just take a moment to process that.
....????!!!!! Huh?????
Good thing whatever dude from Wizards says about "official rulings" doesn't matter because you as the DM make the rules
Why do people hate him again?
@@cheesy_87 Correct, but the point is that someone who would make a ruling as absurd as the centaur one mentioned by Jackal is controlling the direction in which further versions of DnD head, which is worrying. While DM Fiat is a powerful and necessary tool, having a logical and intuitive base rule set should be expected from the designers.
@@imperialwatch1966 I see what you mean, that is worrying indeed.
I wonder if the "new" core rule books will be updates tacked onto the existing books where you'll have access to them as long as you own the original on DnD Beyond, or if they will be separate books with slight changes that will need to be purchased again.
While I am really excited for the 3D digital tabletop, I hope they include an option for top-down 2D maps. If you're building from scratch, 3D maps can be a lot or if you need to create a quick map on the fly, 2D is easier to work with. Plus, sometimes less is more.
I think there's still some growing pains and figuring stuff out but the Rules Expansion under the new Monsters of the Multiverse seems to play out on DNDB as an update, at least on my account it seems to present both options. This may be simply due to how the Rules Expansions work (read: as optional rules) so it MAY play out differently.
I guess it's really going to depend on how much tweaking the core books will receive, the foundation may be the same but the book may be completely remixed by the end of the revision process.
Based on the first round of playtesting material that's been released, it looks like the changes are gonna be significant enough that they'll likely be new books. Hopefully if you're just buying digital copies they'll be cheaper but we probably won't know anything about pricing for a long while.
Edit: On second glance some of the materials have notes or rules that accommodate using characters made from current rulebooks/expansions sooo it is possible that this will just expand upon current rulesets but im still inclined to think that we'll get new rulebooks.
tilt shift is the technique, i guess 2d maps can still be used
DND beyond will become fully subscription based. It's the thing that makes the shareholders happier than ever because you now have a nice predictable long term revenue stream.
"or if they will be separate books with slight changes that will need to be purchased again"
I hate to disappoint you, but it's going to be that.
"The sort of change you're going to see isn't about taking anything away from you, it isn't about changing any of that stuff that you love."
Me: They're taking everything away from me and changing all of the stuff that I love.
Yeah generally when a trailer is cramming the "this isn't a bad thing" down your throat, it's a bad thing. Not one thing in this appeals to me as both a player and a DM. My freedom with inkarnate/r20 is nearly limitless and works very well, last thing I want to do is spend 20 hours making some 3D map to blaze through it in a 30 minute combat. This might be cool if you're buying/playing modules but I think that's where its usefulness will end.
@@IAmSaveRio I like the modules purely because I can alter them in whatever way I want. It's like buying a boxed meal. I know I can spruce it up with more herbs or veggies or whatever, but the core is there for when I am feeling lazy. That's what modules are for me. So, yes to modules, no to this.
@@phillipcollette5224 ahhh the ol ramen noodle of DND haha. Nahh I totally get that and respect it, no different than pulling inspiration from something else, just with the added benefit of having some of the technical aspects sorted out for you already. Definitely helps with DM burnout I imagine.
As a twelve-year-old back in 1984, I went camping with my friends. I was DM but forgot the rule book. Thankfully, I remembered the dice. It turned out to be the best thing that ever happened. We had so much fun we hardly left the tent all weekend and played AD&D like that ever afterwards--adapted to how our imaginations wanted it. For me, the unearthed arcana is this: Once you have the basics, all that's truly needed is an imagination and a twenty-sided die. Create and make the game what you and your party want it to be from there. I'd also like to add: We were truly a diverse group of friends. The girl at the beginning of the video who expressed a heart-stirring hero complex would have been most welcome at our table. I think she would have loved the eighties and nineties and probably saved some of our characters from getting destroyed by the monsters in the Fiend Folio.
Absolutely
Did that too in the middle of the bush, recreated the thaco table from memory and ran a one shot with some other Outward Bounders.
Hey that’s a great story man, but shouldn’t we be kinda cautious about supporting this? Online based play seems like a way to fleece the consumer for a bunch of content and seems antithetical to the wonderful game you describe. Other tabletop games aren’t doing this right now, should we really blindly be optimistic about D&D at a time like this? Just food for thought
@@anomaloushedidntdoit Thanks for reminding me that I wrote this…I fully agree with and have changed my opinion as things have unfolded.
@fjs7655 Just getting into D&D at age 17 and I'm absolutely loving it so far. Glad to know I'm not almost 40 years too late to D&D haha.
On board but don't take away my paper and pencils. The nostalgia of doing it old school like when I was a kid is a big part of the experience for me. Thanks for not just giving us another edition.
The best way to play (IMO) is in-person while using tools that make playing the game easier.
It IS the foundation.
I am in the same boat. I don't mind playing online and with digital tools but I will always prefer gathering at the table with friends, snacks and drinks.
I will also prefer physical paper for several reasons. It's both more personal and people aren't just staring at their electronic devices, zoning out on you.
@@Doodle1776 Yes!
The single greatest issue I have is Power Creep. Many of the "new" sub-classes coming out are OP compared to the older ones. This really saddens me and reeks of commercialism. This, above all else, makes my job as a DM more difficult.
Power creep/class bloat has been at the forefront since AD&D 2e, only worsening with WotC editions. When you're adding dozens of even hundreds of classes, sub-classes, prestige classes, races(though I guess going forward, -ace- "lineage" won't factor into the equation), etc. over time, and the game has broken down to not just playing an RPG, but _sometimes_ playing an RPG, while other times theorycrafting, min-maxing, and optimizing to the nines, you then either have people complaining about new options being OP, or even more people complaining about new options being worthless and that they're not gonna waste their money buying more books if they're never gonna get something "better."
As a forever DM, my suggestion for DMing 5e(assuming you want to stick with 5e and not switch to an edition where bloat is lesser or more optional): Give a huge middle finger to the concept of a "balanced encounter" and make encounters that would make logical sense for the world your game takes place in, not encounters that would make logical sense for the numbers on your PCs' character sheets. If you have a group of 9th-level PCs, they're going to sneeze on kobolds and kill them. Likewise, if there's a cult of necromancers in a city, led by a lich, the PCs don't have to spend 5 levels fighting zombies and skeletons, then another 5 fighting ghouls and wights, before even getting a whiff of the lich; they could encounter him at level 1, and if they're hard-headed enough to think an obviously extremely powerful undead wizard will fall to them and won't outright kill them, the players will either learn better or stick their head in the sand until you give in to them(NEVER do this) or they leave.
There's power creep but the newer, more powerful options are just so much more fun to play. The older, less effective options were always bad - we just didn't realise it. There's nothing really wrong with power creep in a cooperative, collaborative game like D&D unless you have people at the same table with vastly different power levels in their builds where encounter balance means some people are just not having fun. In other words, power creep is only bad in D&D when it's uneven across player options.
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1) Newer, more powerful options are rarely "more fun" to play, unless your only gauge of fun is damage numbers. This is not just the case of D&D, but any RPG, tabletop, video game, or otherwise. In MMOs, they call people that chase the Flavor-Of-The-Month class/build "meta slaves" because instead of playing whatever class/spec they find most fun, they re-roll for whatever is top DPS/heals/best tank for that patch.
2) When power creep happens in an MMO, you're usually paying a subscription fee just to play, and are only paying for more content when an expansion drops, and that's if even that for an MMO. When it comes to a TTRPG, new options in new books causing old options to look like crap incentivizes you to buy the new books so you're not left in the dust. _That_ is where the imbalance matters, not in encounter design, which is perfectly fine being unbalanced, as long as it's thought through and not just placed to TPK the party or give them something to steamroll.
3) There always has been and always will be power imbalance among different character types in D&D; this has been the case since clerics were just as good in melee combat as fighting-men, and magic-users were able to decimate an entire city block once they got access to 3rd- and 4th-level magic. The issues are trying to create an illusion of balance - to the point of homogenization of class mechanics - and bloating classes/sub-classes in the name of balance while invalidating tons of prior classes/sub-classes to sell books.
I think that's a totally unfair and inaccurate assessment. Let's look at the Purple Dragon Knight vs. the Rune Knight. The latter is obviously more powerful than the former, but it's also loads more fun to play. The Purple Dragon Knight gives you a bunch of ribbon abilities that apply when you do the things you already do as a fighter; they aren't interesting new abilities to use, you aren't presented with any options - you just get slightly more out of what you already were doing. The Rune Knight, on the other hand, adds tons of flavour, presents a bunch of choices to be made, gives the fighter all sorts of fun new active features that they can decide to use, most notably in pillars of play other than combat. It's better designed in every way.
I know all about flavour-of-the-month meta builds, MMO design, constant updates to earn a buck. I've seen that in a whole slew of contexts. Is that part of what's going on over at WotC? Absolutely. I think it would be nuts to argue otherwise. While I agree that homogenisation is a concern (how many ways of getting advantage can we possibly have?!?), I think it's very clear that the more recent content which gives players more options (even if those are more powerful) is resulting in happier players.
Here's an example of exactly that: in my first ever game of 5e D&D, a player was playing a PHB Beastmaster Ranger. First round of the first combat, the character's wolf companion is insta-gibbed by a crit from a bugbear. The limitations on getting a new animal companion meant that player had to go through the entire rest of the dungeon as a ranger with no subclass. She was miserable and quit the campaign after a couple of sessions in that dungeon. The new Beastmaster would have allowed her to bring her wolf back (though with a resource expenditure as a tax) so she could stay in the game playing the character she wanted to be.
That is game designers learning from their mistakes and improving their product in action. Is there greed as motivation? If so, how much does that matter to the player?
@@hadeseye2297 thats good too
You will own nothing and you WILL be happy. Enjoy your "D&D as a service".
I'm totally tapped out. I've learned that I function better as a DM if I use my own home brew systems or rules lite systems. Go forth and create rather than consume. ❤️
@Gen X you, good sir, have encapsulated my energy succinctly. ✊
"The sort of change you will see is not taking away things you love but adding more"
*sees spells and DMs lose the official ability to crit*
With one D&D I see why people still play D&D 3.5. I have played 5e for 6 years now and some of the fundamentals, especially around races, have changed. Some for the better some for worse. Even if most people think the changes are mostly for the better, it still changes and there are those who prefer a different/older style of play.
I still play 3.5e. True with some house rules but who doesn't have house rules.
Decent comment.
I prefer 3.5 and AD&D 2e.
I got my hands on a D&D Cyclopedia and some of the older options (like specializing up to Grand Master in a weapon) are really interesting.
Creating something new doesn't take old things out of anyone's hands. I'm so confused by all these comments. You can play any version you like for as long as you like. And they're allowed to create new stuff, and even make a profit doing so. No one has to buy it. If you like it you can adopt it, if you don't, don't. You didn't "lose the ability to crit". You gained the option to use a new rule that some may find better for their table.
@@geraldaugustus739 yes! I see so many people complaining and saying they’re worried about the extra costs but I think they’ve made it clear you can do whatever you like and have in fact reduced costs by not making a whole new edition that isn’t compatible. This way we can continue to play all the things we loved before and also have new content available if we want it. Dnd rules have always been optional and open to interpretation. Critical success and failure doesn’t actually exist in RAW for ability checks but people play them that way if they want to. If you want to be able to crit as the dm then go ahead.
@@geraldaugustus739 Because they will stop making content for 5e, like the stopped making content for 3/3.5e
I want to believe this will be a good step, but Wizards so frequently abuses their position. I expect this is a way to oust 3rd party stuff and be able to charge as much as they can per month for every little thing while releasing a client that is not moddable at all.
This could be awesome, but Wizards is going to ruin it.
Just dont use it then, no ones stopping you from using the free/cheap alternatives that already exist.
@@KlokStudios He never said he's afraid he'll be forced to use it. He just said he expects it'll suck and be milked for every dollar they can get from it. I agree entirely tbh. I just can't wait for people to stop talking about it. It's amazing that something can effectively suck in the eyes of the majority of a community before it's even out, but that's the main perspective on this so far. It's not that anyone's going to HAVE to use it in any way, it's just really irritating to watch them try so hard to sell us on something that we already have better options for. I'd like to be able to say "Yeah, looks fun." to literally anyone about it, but I find myself saying "Just get Foundry" instead. But yeah. Tldr; Just buy Foundry.
When a company that publishes books forgets what business they are in
Now I feel the same way my mentors felt when they stayed with 3rd or went back 2nd edition after 3.5 and 4 was announced. This totally has got that same energy, only now with you owning zero of what you pay for and it all of course being a digital “service”.
You can keep your new furry race, I’ll just be homebrewing from now on with certainty.
This reminds me of the digital push they tried back in 4e. I think the technology is much more mature now so I have a lot of confidence that it'll be a pretty comprehensive and easy to use system, much more so than what was possible over a decade ago.
What ever happened with that digital push for 4e... did it end badly or they scrapped it?
@@thefirstofthelastones8952 It was part of the initial developments, but because of the backlash from the D&D community, they got some new administrators in there and dropped it. Bad business management basically. The business side of 5E was done WAY better.
wotc have an incredibly bad track record with making good usable software
@@trevorhanson6295 Translation: "The digital version of 4E failed because they tried to hard to appeal to the lowest common denominator, while ostracizing their core playerbase. The digital version of 5E worked because they did the exact same thing, except the previous playerbase had grown out of their target demographic."
OR:
"People have lower standards now."
@@Jimbo5900 *[Press X to Doubt]*
I'm not sure how the "lazy DM" and bringing the maps through to a 3D system go hand in hand? If you want a 2D battlemap there are hundreds available online, pre-made and even animated if you want. The amount of work to build a fight scene in 3D has to be more complex and time consuming. Maybe they can include random map generators, and enough tile sets to cover every type you would need (forest, desert, snow, houses, caves, ships etc). Using it for a pre-made one shot would work okay, but building a whole campaign in 3D sounds like considerably more work. Very interested to see how they look to overcome this.
Agreed. At this point, it seems like this will serve official modules well - which makes sense, since that's what WotC sells - but for those of us who do mostly homebrew, 3d is a nightmare. The shift to online has already meant I now spend 75% of my prep on mapmaking and finding art; I dread having to try and do that in 3d. Dungeon Alchemist is really cool, but it's got nothing like the breadth of assets I can get from Forgotten Adventures or Tom Cartos.
The actual "Lazy DM" approach goes against all of these fancy digital bells and whistles, each with their own learning curve. A Lazy DM would want to trim the fat from prep.
@@SynthApprentice I would think a lazy DM should embrace the digital tools as they take a lot of the work away. Auto dice rolls, damage calculations, built in leveling systems, easy to browse and edit character sheets, quick reference to monsters, spells etc. The more you can automate the less you have to do.
@@Wertbag99 Even with the heaviest systems, the math at the table is such a small part of the work of a GM, it's not really much of a concern for a lazy DM. The "Lazy DM" approach is a minimalist philosophy that focuses on pre-game prep work. These digital tools are taking the opposite approach: they're adding more prep work ahead of the game to set up and use tools to help with the part of the game the DM spends the least amount of time on.
If you're at the point where the math at the table really is where you're spending the majority of your work as a DM, it might be worth considering a more rules light system.
for real, my DM throws down the same 12x12 hand made foam tile for every encounter using the closest mini he has to the creature. takes 2 seconds.
The more changes I see in "official sources" the more I like my homebrews.
As a very new DM, I never understood people who stuck with 3.5e for example. Now I get it. This is in no way about nostalgia, I'm barely into the game yet. But this feels like taking power away from the players and controling a "curated experience" which is the exact opposite of what D&D should be. Let's hope 5e remains the solid foundation for amazing homebrew creations that it is today.
Hey. So.
I don’t do most social media, but I still wanted to get it out there to you folks at WOTC.
Your game means the world to me.
These past six years, D&D has become a huge part of my life, I play weekly have easily spent hundreds of Euros on your books and over Covid, a lion’s share of my interactions with my friends has been through D&D 5e. And even outside of directly playing or preparing, D&D has been there, through online creators like Critical Role and so many others.
You have allowed a huge and positive community to build around your game and that community has in turn grown your game and your profits.
So, please. Stop.
You can bring out new source books or editions I will personally not like and that is fine, taste is subjective and as long as I can keep my books, it’s easy for me to pick and choose which ruleset I want to run with and your adventure modules have, over the years, only gotten better.
But what I am hearing about the new OGL is worrying.
Please, consider the community that has made D&D what it is right now, the hands off approach to the game’s license has fostered so much vibrant creativity and created an amazing symbiosis for smaller artists and creators to make a living while still benefiting you.
Don’t pull the rug out from under them, please. My trust in your company has been wavering the last year or so and this was another huge red flag.
Do not make the new OGL, without the community you are actively working to destroy right now, your game will suffer. Understand that you will lose not only reputation, but also money, customers.
I for one, will be looking to other games if your current trajectory continues and I know for a fact that so will many of my friends.
Dungeons and Dragons is all about creativity. Please, keep that creativity that is the beating heart of this game alive.
You have shown with 5e, up to Tasha’s anyhow, that you can back up your claim to the title of world’s greatest Role Playing Game and that goodwill and positive reputation will carry you a long way, but the cracks are beginning to show.
Reputation isn’t enough and goodwill can be lost. Trust can be lost.
Please do not let me lose my trust.
Sincerely,
A fan.
I would also love the option to include third party content as well such a kobold press and grim hollow by ghostfire
"Growing up I loved fantasy but I never saw myself as a hero, because I didn't think it was possible for someone who looked like me, who acted like me, who was like me, to be that hero."
Yeah geez, if only there was a game that allowed you to roleplay as a different character, or a character who is a fantastical extension of you.
I was thinking the exact same thing. I play as a hero not "the" hero. Seems like they wanted to shoehorn in the modern inclusivity trope.
Love it when these mega corporations find ways to charge more money and all the "resistance" types buy into it.
While I think this will be an interesting system, to say they haven't take inspiration from a current 3D system. Called Talespire, would be an understatement.
Will the D&D beyond digital books cost less than the full priced physical books? I prefer physical books to digital where applicable but I also don't want to pay full price for the same book twice when I'm only going to use the digital version rarely.
They already are
The new Krynn book includes the digital version when you purchase the hardcopy
Or, if you buy a physical book you get the digital book free.
they just said theyre gonna be doing digital/physical bundles, so u get them both when u buy a hardcopy and like others have said, digital books are already cheaper
@@Hous3ofpros That doesn't address the issue of books that have already been purchased. I have $1000 invested in books. I am not going to spend another $1000 to buy the same books again.
If you can’t imagine yourself as a hero because of how you look, you lack confidence and imagination. I feel like that’s a personal failure, not the worlds. That’s exactly what imagination is: becoming what you aren’t, doing what you can’t. I was really curious when I got this email, but that was a poor introduction if this is actually about dnd. It seems like it’s more about personal identity. Which is exactly what we leave behind when we play dnd.
It's a direct imposition of the New Racism, and yet another destruction of fantasy/entertainment/media by injecting politics. And in an even more Orwellian move, the main "benefit" of these digital books is that if the mob finds anything problematic in the product you paid for and like, WOTC will change what you have in the digital space...memory holing any bad thoughts.
My same thought, but even worse than the lack of imagination is a lack of an answer to that challenge. What about this new system addresses their lack of imagination? What lets them now see themselves that wasn't there before? It seems to be the exact same game it always has been, just with better computer tools.
Agreed. If it improves the game, great. Tbh the direction they seem to want to go, except for the ease of access which was already there via DDB/R20/etc, seemed to be more about inserting oneself in the game. I don’t oppose that, but if that’s the focus of the expansion I’m more concerned with what will be lost along the way. I just invested hundreds into DDB as I finally decided to take the leap towards DMing instead of just playing. I’m now worried that I have invested in the wrong platform. If their One D&D starts limiting accessibility to other groups/platforms, I’ll abandon DDB and only use those other platforms. I’ll also do everything in my power to gain some kind of compensation for my investment if it is no longer what I purchased. Similar moves by companies are why I’m no longer an avid gamer. I’ll stop recommending DDB to friends and players until I see where this is going.
I hate that comments seem to be missing from the comment section. Seems that two have been removed. I hope I haven’t offended anyone with any of my comments. Definitely not my intention. That said, I stand by my statements.
OGL 1.1 is the death of D&D being the core of my groups TTRPG experiences. I *was* at least curious about one D&D, but now the only thing I can be excited about is that these Spell Jammer books sitting on my table will be the last Rule books I ever buy from Hasbro.
Congratulations to my wallet!
I believe the more that the game is in your headspace and imagination - the stronger it is.
The more vivid detailed environment, the more it draws away the power of mind.
Does that make sense?
An entire table of players all picture something different from one another no matter how a dm may describe or present it. We all create the perfect image we wish perceive. That's powerful.
However, when you have a fully realised 3D play space like a video game (despite you trying not to have it branded that way) all the players share the exact same image. It's interesting, but kinda saddening and backwards from what makes it special imo.
Okay!! Then don’t use it!
Something important I think should be included in Digital is the capability to load our own character minis that are built with services like Hero Forge.
Big agree - Hero Forge is a great tool.
I do hope that they will pay more attention to higher tiers. Yes, the higher tiers are not played as often as the lower ones, but a factor that causes that is the lack of support for the higher tiers in general. It is hard to play the higher tiers when you don't have much to go off from.
If you build it, they will come.
Yeah I'm kinda tired of joining games and playing levels 2-5 repeatedly. You shouldn't even list class features beyond that if there is no game play there.
agreed. High level content would be great
Epic levels
How many of you guys have dm'd high lv dnd?
There’s no school like old school. Cheaper, better, deeper. But it requires more effort.
Yep I'm revisiting 2e and Hackmaster 4e. Rules heavy but I am sick of WotC
There's already free tools out there that do exactly what they're planning. As long as their provided tools cost money (and let's be real, it's gonna cost quite a bit) and don't have that infinite flexibility and easy homebrew that I know we all want, I don't see much of a reason to go for it
"We're all lazy dms" I could never say that about my Friday night pathfinder kingmaker dm. That guy puts in *so much* ridiculous work. I love 5th edition and this looks great though, can't wait to see it in motion.
Im usually prepare about on a 1 to 1 ratio for play time.
kingmaker is where it’s at. are you playing a conversion?
Better question: If you're playing Pathfinder in any of its forms or editions, why are you messing around with 5e? Thats like two steps back.
@@tkelly5422 I play what's being run. My main game's dm prefers pathfinder to d&d because he loves the crunch. Before I had to work Saturdays I had a regular group for 5e with different people and a different dm. Am I really in the wrong for playing games I enjoy with my friends?
@@barnabyssjones I'm not sure. I think it's just regular kingmaker. It's been a multi-yeared campaign which is an accomplishment because this dm gets to a point in games fairly easily where he doesn't want to touch them anymore and we start something else with a "maybe we'll play it again later" only for it to just not happen. This one has him so entertained in all the ways he likes as a dm that it just keeps going except for brief breaks to do a less involved campaign while he works on the next arc or whatever he's struggling to get fleshed out in time (we've had a few different side games for this reason that are even more short lived than his normal short lived campaigns in things, everything from shadowrun to gurps). We also semi recently had a player move on because he absolutely hates the mechanics of pathfinder and was also having some lifestyle changes at the same time he was at his limits for enjoying this campaign and we don't hear from him much now but have a different player joined in who's interesting enough to make it less of a loss.
Where Chris Perkins stated that the new DMs guide is going to be simplified has me a bit worried. Its good that they want bring it to a user friendly base. But just how simplified is it going to be?
"More friendly to new DMs" isn't the same as simplified, it might mean giving you more instructions on actually running the game, like the 4e DMG
It might mean simplified, but it doesn't need to
Crunch and hard fast rules are discouraged in the new order
“We feel we perfected the D&D formula with 5e, and now the only thing we can do is keep adding more to it” *changes everything*
Guys, it's a tabletop RPG. You don't need anyone's permission to play whatever character you want, make whatever rules you want, come up with anything.
This is like a company that produces paint telling you that their new paints will allow you to paint trees in addition to bushes.
Unfortunately, one of the proposed changes WOULD take something away. Instead of creating a NEW race, they want to replace the Aasimar.🙁
Don't you know? Angels are bad because they're tied inherently to Christianity and we can't have that. Now, if there was enough of a push to tie aasimars to Islam or judaism, they'd clam up about wanting to replace the race. But Christianity is always fair game to attack.
WHAT? My favorite character that i've even reused a few times is an aasimar ☹️
I know. They're going to destroy the Aasimar and replace them with more furries.
I dislike the ardlings intensely. Why should the celestial-linked race have to be animal-headed and why should the animal-headed race have to be celestial? My most charitable guess is that they wanted to disconnect celestial races from being seen as exclusively 'angelic' in the Abrahamic sense but replacing that with a different mythos type's divinities they have to exclusively resemble isn't any better. 'Angelic Flight' is pathetic too; it's just glorified jumping.
I'll be approaching this with a healthy level of skepticism and excitement. I'm only just now getting the hang of 5E, so this makes me a little anxious.
Whatever the case, I will definitely be watching this with extreme interest. I haven't been a fan of some of the changes that have been integrated into some of the latest releases for the DnD, but if the future is in the hands of the fans, then maybe it wont be all too different.
i understand what you mean. I'll probably still check out the rules for the surveys but imsticking to 5e as it is till i feel comfortable lol
Bring back the solo book adventures like from the old school D&D days!
Thus far I'm a fan of most of the rules in the released playtest material. I like the direction that, mechanically, d&d is going. (though I'm worried about some wordings, i.e. the new crit rules)
However, a lot of this just reads to me as "we have competitors and we don't like that.". To me, the heart of d&d is and always will be it's fans, players, and DMs. Not the fancy virtual tabletops or a Single Amalgamated D&D Website Experience. As they said: "We did a smart thing with 5th Edition, by listening to the fans", so my sentiment is not one that's entirely unknown.
With D&D "officially" being amalgamated into a single website, I heavily worry that many third party programs, websites, apps, and tools might get the hammer from Wizards. On top of that, there's the worry that, if this new edition is so heavily based around D&D Beyond and this new VTT, that new players are going to simply be priced out of participating in what is probably one of my favorite and most fulfilling hobbies.
I urge Wizards of the Coast to look at the evolution of D&D less as "how do we centralize this" and more "how do we embrace our community". Because in my humble opinion, attempting to make lovingly crafted third-party tools obsolete is not how you embrace your community.
P.S.: Please just call it 5.5e
Or 6e! It's not like this'll be the last version of D&D to ever release. There's bound to be more down the road.
Well-said. 5.5e, I think, is the right way to put it. Maybe 5.2e, if they wanted to emphasize how similar it is to 5th edition. But reworking the core rulebooks? To me, that means that the core rule are changing, and that there should be an edition marker to signify those changes.
"The person you are can appear in D&D"? Isn't the point of playing to be someone else and not the person who you are? I'm not a narcissist, I don't need to see myself in everything. I do agree that several rules need redone or outright removed. I also like the digital idea to alter stuff but I still prefer and will remain as a Theater of the Mind format. I like wargames, I like RP games, I don't want my RP game thought to be a wargame. Having to worry all of the time about exact placements, movements, and positions, just go with it in your mind and RP. It's also why I never use maps but draw the map on a whiteboard as the PCs see each room. I don't want them knowing all of the rooms, layout, or setup, but they need to explore and they will miss things. My only fear is that they're going to basically make the game easier for casual players with the new spells and races to play. Meaning it will just be more stuff for me to ban at the table.
Thank You WOTC for bringing me back into the hobby with 5e but looking at my shelves and considering how much I already invested in 5e, I won't be buying 5.5. I'm going to invest in the rpg community instead with the OSR. Thanks again.
The opposite of love isn't hate. It's indifference.
"I didn't think someone who looked like me could be a hero"
Most people don't look like seven-foot near-demigod Aragorn; Legolas the most broad-shouldered and muscular elf since Feanor; stout and wide Gimli the dwarf; or the tiny halflings. But they could still see aspects of themselves in these characters and the idea that anyone can be a hero regardless of their appearance as long as they're willing to work hard and sacrifice in the name of doing good.
Especially in the modern day, with countless grants and classes and weaponized guilt that's been institutionalized likely since before this woman went into high school, she's had every institution bending over backward to make her feel welcome. If people like her still don't feel included, the onus is not on us but on her to either improve herself until she can imagine herself as a hero or to rein in her narcissism because she as she is now wouldn't function as a hero.
At this point we're not even being inclusive: we're bullying the people who used to be in these spaces and courting the very people who used to make fun of nerds and insult them for their hobbies.
God I miss TSR . Poor Gary … his vision has been cannibalized
Very excited about the physical/digital bundles for books. Would be great to be able to get physical copies at a discount for all the content (everything out so far) that I own in DnD Beyond. Also very excited about expanding the digital footprint into VTT, so I don't have to spend additional money for content I already own to use it in some other VTT.
Alternatively, would love to have my purchases on Roll20 (like the $50 I just dropped on Spelljammer) to be recognized and worked into this system, because I’ll be unhappy otherwise.
@@TheMattrking why would they care about your use of a third party website?
Nerd.
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@@azrielslytherin2604 because the books I bought there cost the same and are still their products; meaning I am their customer being given a lesser product because of the store I bought it from.
It’s pretty simple; they should care because they took my money.
@@TheMattrking Yeah it doesn't work that way chief, that's why you shouldn't by digital stuff from 3rd parties, its even in there user agreement as well as think of a logical standpoint. How are they going to be able to back track that / backlog that. If they were to do that it won't be a simple solution that you are thinking of. I get you want your money back but lets be honest we know going into D&D what were investing into.
I don't need my Player Character to look or act anything like me....that's the point of fantasy and roleplaying.... to get outside myself, and escape to being someone else for a few hours a week, with others who wanna do the same thing.
really looking forward to playing 2nd edition, folks!
It looks like the new OGL is going to affect my ability to use my preferred virtual table top, and I refuse to switch over the OneDnD after they kill off something I love.
I think it's time to try that Call of Cthulhu or Pathfinder campaign I've been meaning to do.
"We're all lazy DMs." - No. Some of us enjoy the creation process and creating for sessions with players. So, no! We are not all lazy DMs.
It’s okay don’t worry about it we are all lazy dms
Video starts at 4:25
Reading the comments, I get the feeling that Wizards didn't listen to the players.
New players and a host of those who have been already integrated into D&D Behond & VTT D&D 5E Modules plug ins will see this and hop on over. WoTC will push this hard with marketing. This will chew away at player bases from other VTT like Roll20, Tale Spire, and Fantasy Grounds to name a few. This business shift will change the D&D culture drastically. If we think how players interacted with D&D from 1970s till today even after Covid shifted lots to VTTs. It will become a whole different monster than we have now though. It will be only a matter of time before digital D&D content will be largely accessible only through WoTC new system. I'm not saying they will pull 5E or whatever else, but going forward with his new system & marketing idea. There is no hiding it and it is to be expected, don't think for a second micro transactions wont be the at the core, not just Modules, Core Books, ect. We are talking a BIG heavy hitting ones from 3d miniatures; monster packs, player characters, weapons, voice lines, music, 3D tile sets; plus the same tiles just a different environment theme, Oh you want a potion belt on you mini? $$$ the list will go on. There will be no doubt of this. Now we can say, but we have that already? This is true in a way, but there is so many communities that come together and create free content for us to use. Here is the kicker... WoTC will not allow this in their new system. We might hope 3rd party creators can put their content on their market at the price of WoTC hands in their sales. My point is I fear they will not allow 3rd party assets into their system. WoTC will create a 1DD ecosystem island pulling users into it while they will be less likely to shift away. This is do to the investment that this system will chain them in with. This is an obviously disgusting over reach of GREED but whats new. SAY NO to One-D&D.
Digital/Physical bundles and unreal engine models!!!! So cool
Next Race from WotC: *Elf Elf*
Race Elf, Subrace Elf, Size Elf, Elf Vision, The Elf Feat, Movement Speed Elf, and Proficient in Elf, Elf, and Elf, with a +3 to Elf.
I don't get the 'someone who looked like, acted like me, was like me to be that Hero' comment. Surely the whole point of the setting is that your only constraint is your own imagination with regard to the characters looks, abilities and actions you choose to play as.
Ah. It's good to go back to where it all began to crumble.
Just come out and say what you clearly mean. "We want a world where we are the ONLY place you can play dnd and you have to give us your money every time".
No thank you. D&D is magical due to the lack of screens. Imagination is special because it requires description and the fun of storytelling.
Personally I am not looking at this favourably. It took them almost two minutes to stop them patting themselves on the back and actually talk about what this is. In addition some of the things they mentioned are raising some red flags for me, the talking about D&D as a story more than a game, the mentioning of the art as “versatile” when they have been reducing the quality and making most sentient races just different coloured humans. I will give it a go but I will be doing so with a healthy amount of skepticism.
What I'd like to see more customisation through character class. 3.5 was popular for so long due to the sheer number of classes and prestige classes available. If you had a fantasy character in mind from tv, book or your own imagination you could create it or something similar in 3.5. 5e is still way too limited in this area
I hope they let us download the 3d models of our characters, this looks really cool, but I prefer playing with physical minis. If I can download or buy the stl, then I might actually buy some of the cosmetics for this new platform.
I am pretty sure thar this isn't a program that they expect people who play irl to care about.
I'm going to revolutionize the game for a new generation of DM's and Players
Introducing OGL 2.0!
Sorcerous Vitality was really cool. It gave the wizard a sense of versatility in using magic that made them feel more unique and special. Plus, it wasn't particularly overpowered because they could only use it on themselves, and the healing wasn't very high. I think Sorcerous Vitality should be kept.
I hope weapon's and psionics will see a revisit in the future as well, but I am excited for these changes as well.
We need more complexity not less We need more complexity not less
@@Midnightv We HAVE more complexity, it's called Pathfinder.
@@Tensen01 huh
@@Midnightv I disagree, the beauty of 5e is its simplicity. Pathfinder is where to go for more mechanical complexity. Or just homebrew it with your players.
I first got into DnD and TTRPGs generally because some friends grabbed me to help playtest this "DnD Next" thing, which eventually became 5e. Feel like I gotta try to get in on playtesting this just to honor that 10 year anniversary.
...I hope they release something that can be used for Castle Ravenloft by Oct. Would LOVE to run a Ravenloft oneshot for halloween.
Hell one, shot we played Ravenloft exclusively for year when it first came out. Such a fun world
MUST work with non-Wizards of the Coast or D&D Beyond material or not buying. Since 1986 I've bought TRPG products, not just D&D. I have ORIGINAL boxes and modules with notes scrawled in them from campaigns gone by! If I want to incorporate animal based characters from Gamma World instead of D&D 5e, I should be able to do so!
Wow, you managed to take me from happy new player to disappointed grognard in only 10 years 🤣🤦♂️
Like many others I'm really hoping this isn't going to be some insane price gouge to use the digital play space and assets, I love getting the physical books and its always been a bummer that I can't really use D&D beyond without buying books I already own.
In my experience, Foundry has been a great alternative to D&D beyond. One time license purchase, user-friendly character sheets that can be automatically level'd up, everything can be managed with drag-and-drop mechanics (like throwing items in their inventory or spells to their spellbook) and so much of the community makes useful modules to fit what you want/need. And legends tell of some wizards who install the Plutonium module from 5etools to pull anything/everything from the 5etools site straight into Foundry (e.g. to access to content from books you own the physical copies for so you don't keep giving WOTC your paycheck each time they build a new tool to sell you digital copies of something you've already bought multiple times). Tldr; I've given WOTC thousands of my dollars but Foundry loves me unconditionally.