Great video 👍 , me personally think using oil will eventually cause faster wear and tears around the edge of the piston seal where it touches in side the chamber and cause weak compression, I use oil in my .22 call rifle never had any major damage or issues
@user-wp1rk5nn7d I mentioned that at the beginning. Using a 16 grain pellet. The advertised speed is a stretch and marketing ploy. They use pba pellets which are garbage. I chronoed the .22 swarm mag averaging around 900. I estimate the .177 with 7 grain pellets at around 1000-1100.
@marcusbuskill4672 The sudden release of all the air pressure in the piston causes combustion when adding a combustible material. I thought it was BS at first, even after doing my initial dieseling video with 3 in 1 oil. So, I tried adding water (not in a video). I thought maybe it was just the addition of another material improved the seal of the pellet and therefore increased the velocity. Not so. The water didn't do a dang thing. So, sure enough, adding a combustible material to the pellet results in a fairly significant increase in velocity. You are literally getting a little explosion every shot which, of course, increases the velocity.
So, I wonder what would happen if in the hollow of the pellet base you put like 2-3 little grains of smokeless powder then the vaporub over that ? Or maybe the tiniest drop of gas or kerosene that was then covered over with vaporub?
Pushes lube up and around less air can cruise by in rifling grooves if right consistency. Can be butter dont matter if combustible but has to stay in back of slug/pellet until fired
@@sonnybonowig7538 But it can’t just be keeping air from getting around pellet. I’ve tried noncombustible materials and they have zero effect. Has to be combustible.
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I'd be interested in crisco just because its closer to bear fat consistency which was used for years .
Great video 👍 , me personally think using oil will eventually cause faster wear and tears around the edge of the piston seal where it touches in side the chamber and cause weak compression,
I use oil in my .22 call rifle never had any major damage or issues
@Leadbadger557 Thank you!
705 fps for a magnum 177 thats like a weak pump bb gun velocity what didnyou do to thwt thing
@user-wp1rk5nn7d I mentioned that at the beginning. Using a 16 grain pellet. The advertised speed is a stretch and marketing ploy. They use pba pellets which are garbage. I chronoed the .22 swarm mag averaging around 900. I estimate the .177 with 7 grain pellets at around 1000-1100.
I’m not an air gun guy…..what exactly is happening to increase velocity?
@marcusbuskill4672 The sudden release of all the air pressure in the piston causes combustion when adding a combustible material. I thought it was BS at first, even after doing my initial dieseling video with 3 in 1 oil. So, I tried adding water (not in a video). I thought maybe it was just the addition of another material improved the seal of the pellet and therefore increased the velocity. Not so. The water didn't do a dang thing. So, sure enough, adding a combustible material to the pellet results in a fairly significant increase in velocity. You are literally getting a little explosion every shot which, of course, increases the velocity.
So, I wonder what would happen if in the hollow of the pellet base you put like 2-3 little grains of smokeless powder then the vaporub over that ? Or maybe the tiniest drop of gas or kerosene that was then covered over with vaporub?
@@mbuskilla That’s probably a good idea for a follow up video. Add some smokeless powder then the vapor rub and see what happens!
Pushes lube up and around less air can cruise by in rifling grooves if right consistency. Can be butter dont matter if combustible but has to stay in back of slug/pellet until fired
@@sonnybonowig7538 But it can’t just be keeping air from getting around pellet. I’ve tried noncombustible materials and they have zero effect. Has to be combustible.