I was wrong about Hades II developer Supergiant Games...
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- I'm embarrassed to say that I was wrong about Hades II developer Supergiant Games. Hear how the indie developer's shocking actions made me rethink my opinions on greed in the video game industry. All while fighting the Infernal Beast boss in Hades II.
[minor, insignificant spoiler in this video]
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Awesome that you can admit you were wrong! I've been loving everything I have seen from Hades II everywhere. Will you be continuing to post content from it? Also your video editing and everything is pro level.
I will definitely be making more content for Hades II. I was thinking about a video going over the best way to approach roguelike games for people who aren't fully aware of what games like Hades and Hades II have to offer! Thanks for the comment!
@@greydaygames of course! That sounds like a great video idea. I don’t fully understand what a rogue like is myself. Can’t wait to see what you got up next 💜
Another thing that should be added that kinda adds a bit of hilarity: So you know how Supergiant uploaded the Hades 2 OST to their channel? Yeah that shit got an automatic claim. RUclipss Copyright system is just shitty, and has been for years. False or flat out not legal claims are sadly the norm
Yeah, even original music from day to day people have been claimed when they were the one who made the music. RUclips Copyright system is a joke
That is HILARIOUS.
Yeah, YT is a morale crushing sonofabitch sometimes, especially for us nobodies.
Thanks for the comment and that information. That kind of made my day! lol
I got popped in a Hades 1 video. The song Eurydice sings? "Good Riddance?" It was claimed by a FAN REMIX of all things. I was unbelievably pissed off!
Wow. I... it is so damn frustrating how easy it is to utilize RUclips's own tools to illegally screw over others.
I am still blown away by Supergiant's response to the situation - and they've earned themselves a lifelong supporter as a result.
@@greydaygames My focus is accessibility. I want more options so more of us disabled people can play. Audio cues, control options, UI stuff and the like. Same starting line, y'know? Been doing it for 10 years. Got a lot of updoots on their discord and reddit so fingers crossed their people see the suggestions. Accessibility does NOT begin or end with easy mode and a colorblind filter. There's ways to weave it in to benefit everyone.
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@@greydaygames whiles its VERY frustrating when RUclipss systems get abused, what makes it more frustrating is when you learn its not even youtubes fault, see youtube needs an easy to abuse system because based on current copyright law the system youtube has in place is, well legally gray at best, the legal way of handling things is in court, and that method still stands and is legally valid for any copyright owner to use, so RUclips needs an easy to abuse system so some greedy giant corpo doesn't decide "you know what no, were not using RUclipss built in copyright systems, were just suing youtube for hosting our copyrighted content" and once 1 company pulls that trigger and wins against youtube, you know damn well many others will follow suit, so youtube needs a system so easy to abuse that no company thinks to sue youtube instead, if a company decided that youtubes system was to convoluted or took to long then they would probably just take youtube to court
Supergiant has uploaded the soundtracks for all their games for free. In a recent video of Greg Kasavin and Amir Rao answering questions on Hades 2, they half jokingly described their games as delivery methods for Darren Kobe’s music. I was drawn to this video since I e been a super fan of Supergiant since Pyre’s release and was shocked at the idea of someone beefing with them given their stellar track record
It was a shock that this happened and was more an issue with RUclips. That’s why I felt so stupid and guilty for my overreaction. It was an oversight and a byproduct of my growing distrust of the gaming industry as a whole.
That’s why I felt compelled to make this video. To admit my mistake and offering my first hand account of a developer actually caring.
Thanks for the comment!
I mean he ain't wrong I've loved the music on all their games lol
It happened to another famous hades content creator halien too. There's some other company going around fraudulently claiming supergiant's music. They've been fixing it as soon as possible.
Supergiant Games has done an incredible job every step of the way. Hades II is great. They're proactively protecting their community. They're listening to players and updating the game in incredible ways.
All for a game that is a fraction of the cost of AAA games.
After this situation, I back Supergiant Games 100%.
Well, that's a lesson on trying research and contacting before firing the shots. Glad it was sorted out! 😁👍
The moment I heard the word "claimed" my first thought was "it's RUclips's algorithm claiming stuff again". This happens fairly often even though you can go years with that never happening to a channel. And then when it happens once it's like the algorithm puts the channel on some watchlist and it happens again and again. Happens a bunch to reaction channels when they start getting bigger.
I respect you for emitting to your mistakes and I Indie devs will almost always be a lot chiller the with copy right because it’s the actual people and those people that have the passion are the ones making the decision instead of greedy executives you see it here with supergiant and it can be seen a lot with Toby fox such as with the whole undertale yellow stuff and my personal favorite, him telling the RUclipsr alpharad that he could just remake date start ( the song alpharad uses for his sponsor section) and tell the sponsors that he ( as in alpharad) made the song and you can that story out there if you don’t believe me
Thanks incredible. I hadn’t heard about Toby Fox before, but I have heard good things about undertake. Perhaps I should give it a shot.
Thanks for the comment!
TLDW:
He complained about copyright music, devs responded to his review, youtuber changed negative review to positive.
It's ok bruh... you're allowed to change your mind.
You've missed the point of the video, but I appreciate your comment, nonetheless.
Here's what you meant to say...
TL;DW
Man realizes that indie game developers have NOT gone the way of AAA publishers and shares a precautionary tale of how first impressions aren't always what they seem...
FTFY, bruh.
@@greydaygames K it's your video so I'll take your word for it on the tldw.
Cause I admit, I scrubbed through most of it, shorryyyy lol.
Good luck on your endeavors
@@MeepMeep88 lol. no worries.
I was teasing anyway. You also brought up a point that, for those who nope out before the end, you may just think I'm being a whiny bitch.
So, I used your comment as an opportunity.
All the best!
the biggest plot twist for me here was that thhe dog boss is cerberus, and yes I actually didn't know
It felt bad hurting the 3-headed pupper, but the game does a great job in explaining why you're doing it.
The game is so damn good... so joyful and fun.
Thanks for the comment!
First time I saw him in the run and I was like "oh no... OH NO...."
THAT GOOD BOY GOT ALL THE TREATS IN HADES 1
Lol how could you not know XD
Fun fact the name changes to infernal cerberus
copyright is often done by the publisher or the original copyright holder (producer). big aaa game companies love flagging videos with modern vgm. but supergiant publishes their own games which gives them sharp control over the copyright.
I agree. It was to my surprise that an independently published game with original music written solely for the game (and ODT) would claim on let’s play VODs.
We were right! Supergiant didn’t want that!
The most amazing thing was their response to my and other more popular creators.
Their response to me served no benefit to them. They did it anyway. They have no customer loyalty… until they lose it.
Thanks for the insightful comment!!
Enjoyed the Realness(?) of the video, wish more people spoke honestly instead of what they think people want to hear
Supergiant is a beautiful studio and I hope never ever joins a AAA publisher. They'd get shutdown like Tango Gameworks.
I saw someone on Twitter say that it would be great if Microsoft were to acquire Supergiant or Moon Studios and I instantly blocked the person.
Just wanna drop a comment. Major props to you man. Too many videos I see of creators letting their ego get in front of being positive!
Thanks! It is easy to have knee jerk reactions to things, but sometimes, we are wrong in doing so.
I didn't have to tell on myself, but I felt that my story shares both my folly AND the silver lining that not ALL developers are anti-consumer.
Thanks for the comment! Hope to see you around!
"I WAS WRONG ABOUT SUPERGIANT"
Me: Oh no! Do they suck?
Video: No! Quite the opposite in fact!
Me: Oh thank god.
I am sorry for the “clickbait.” However, I feel it is honest… in context!
Supergiant has proven themselves to be what we all thought - a great indie dev team who are focused on making great games for their fans.
Refreshing.
@@greydaygames Dude, I'm gonna be honest, I'm just happy I watched the video. I needed a story about game devs that didn't end with tragedy, and you provided. Thank you.
Thank for posting this video - I've been a game dev for a while but I'm honestly out of touch and trying to get my head around the new landscape I've found myself in :-) I'm still getting used to the idea of streamers and Let's Play videos so I have no idea what is or isn't frustrating from that perspective so I find stuff like this helpful. I am also curious about this AAA greed/tension thing that's emerged (made AAA back in the day but I've been on mobile for a while after the last big crash in 2013). It's like I turned around and everyone suddenly hates each other.
When developers answer to publishers, they’re working to make the stockholder happy.
An indie dev is working to please the player.
There are exceptions.
Just not very often in my recent experience.
@@greydaygames Mmm, the publishers definitely are and the developers need to keep the publishers happy so I can see where that sentiment comes from.
Don't use bosses from later stages, or warn.
You’re right. Though, it’s the third boss, I get your point.
@@greydaygames not everyone has jumped into the game immediately given it's early access and only on steam and not everyone has progressed far enough to see certain parts of the game. while it obviously wasn't your intention to spoil i think it is worth putting spoiler warnings for this game for anything beyond what is shown in the promotional material because i know i'd be annoyed if i was spoiled on what the 2nd or 3rd boss was
It do be like that sometimes
Hades and Hades 2 are like a Krabby Patty. The only people who hate it have naver played it.
Agreed! Or, they haven’t played them ENOUGH. I can see an impatient player not understanding about how you progress throughout a roguelike, but once it clicks, you start to see the ways in which other genres fail to deliver experiences that are as fulfilling.
@@greydaygames Literally most of the hate is from people like Grummz and his one braincell army hating on Hades 2 for the character portrait of Aphrodite in Hades 1 (while constantly complaining it is from Hades 2). Not knowing that a lot of us also aren't fond of her design, but not visually and moreso that her boons are mid compared to literally every other God in the game.
@@spooderderg4077 people get caught up about the silliest things. Just like I did with the music copyright. The difference is, I typically come to my senses pretty quickly and am willing to admit when I’m being childish and/or shortsighted.
Appreciate the comments and some info as to yet another silly controversy! lol.
@@spooderderg4077 I know you didn't just say some of the most broken builds rely on ahrordite and her duo boons are just sooooo good go watch windettes video on Hades and try out the builds you won't be disappointed
hahahaahhaahahahhahaaha I'm 43 this year, and I laughed out loud at the final message. You've earned this sub ;-)
Thanks for the sub!
When did you get so good at YouTubing?
Opened up the bag-o-tricks.
Working toward my "I quit" video.
@@greydaygames You'll need an apology video before that.
@@MisterBW *looks around* I mean... this... admitting your wrong is the same as apologizing, right?
That's what I've always told my exes... oooohhhhhhhh.
@@greydaygames No, no. You have to be cancelled first. It won't be hard for you.
Just a setback go get em tiger.
It's one thing to retract your statement, it's another to make a video making fun of yourself in contrite
You get a sub from even if it was because of a heat of the moment mistake
Sometimes you have to call yourself out for being a moron.
Thanks for the sub!
Earned my sub keep it up bro
Thank you!
Im reporting your video simply for spoilling a specific boss... Thats one other mistake you did.. Is it that hard to just use Hecate gameplay?
Report away. I am sorry that you’re such an unhappy person.
Best of luck with that and thanks for the comment.
@@greydaygames Though reporting is a bit of an overreaction, they do have a point with the spoiler stuff.
@@snappishorc6656 noted.
Amazing video!
The moment you start swinging towards a vibe that feels like righteous indignation, it's ALWAYS good to re-check the facts. Glad you learned better in the end. Don't do this again? LOL
Absolutely. I will definitely try to be better in the future.
👍
Cool of you to admit that you were wrong, cool of devs to fix their mistakes, cool!
A lesson in not jumping to conclusions, for sure!
Supergiant are awesome for addressing the situation AND for their incredible first patch! They really seem to listen to and care about their players.
This is why I've grown to love indie games, even as a graphics snob.
Thanks for the comment!