The Mk I Martini Henry: Ammunition Part 1 - The Grease Groove Bullet

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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2025

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  • @xralphxralph
    @xralphxralph 5 лет назад +16

    RUclips is becoming a joke. This is a quality educational channel which deserves support not being restricted.

  • @wonkachocolates6133
    @wonkachocolates6133 5 лет назад +23

    I wish RUclips would leave your videos alone so the world can enjoy the great content that they provide.
    Rob, never give up your creative and informative postings...as a regular viewer, I absolutely love all of them.

  • @PaletoB
    @PaletoB 5 лет назад +33

    When you know its only a "placeholder" and you have watched the original video but you still click on this because of the short sketch 😋

  • @britishmilitaria2947
    @britishmilitaria2947 5 лет назад +63

    We need a 30 minute episode on private macenzy and his shenanigans

    • @grantlee5737
      @grantlee5737 5 лет назад +4

      British Rifleman 2 McKenzie

    • @hartleymartin
      @hartleymartin 5 лет назад +2

      Well, the one good thing from this RUclips censorship is that Rob is making a few more nice vignettes of his various alter-egos. Pte Jones must be Mackenzie's Welsh cousin.

  • @cameronboyce4695
    @cameronboyce4695 5 лет назад +33

    Thank You. If at all possible it would be wonderful to see a cooperation with you and C&Rsenal to make a whole series of reloading videos that cover all of the rare and obsolete cartridges for many of these vintage and antique firearms.

  • @ADRay1999
    @ADRay1999 5 лет назад +15

    I really need to Start getting into Hand loading. Great video

    • @donnkelley6823
      @donnkelley6823 5 лет назад +2

      You will find it to be a life long addiction.....
      The ability to change things like bullet weight, amount of powder etc....
      There is no end to what you can do, within the guidelines of charge weight etc. Like Rob here running a lighter load on an old rifle. No need to push the limits.
      But over and above all else....
      ITS FUN TO LOAD YOUR OWN

  • @justinrusselluspsa2963
    @justinrusselluspsa2963 5 лет назад +3

    Love your channel! Because of you I finally saved enough money to purchase my 1st Martini. It will be here later this month. Cheers!!!

  • @versal339
    @versal339 5 лет назад +5

    I always believed Sir Harry Flashman absconded with the screwdriver in his pocket on the way to the safety of Rorke's Drift

  • @matthabir4837
    @matthabir4837 5 лет назад +2

    It is easier to navigate Utah Gun Exchange than Full 30. Glad to find you there.

  • @Riflelock
    @Riflelock 5 лет назад +3

    Rob, you have always been very polite in our email exchanges over the years. I signed up at urge just for solidarity.

  • @peterparsons7141
    @peterparsons7141 Год назад

    Excellent vid. For reloading the .451 martini!

  • @scottmcgee6154
    @scottmcgee6154 5 лет назад +3

    The name's Jones by the way.
    McKenzie by any other name is McKenzie just the same.

  • @theoldehandgonne2503
    @theoldehandgonne2503 5 лет назад

    Thank you for the reupload, and humorous addition. I used to watch these loading videos purely for intrigue and entertainment, but this one in particular, will come in handy in the near future due to a recent acquisition...

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад +1

      Oh,.... that sounds interesting. Will we see it this June or are you still around?

    • @theoldehandgonne2503
      @theoldehandgonne2503 5 лет назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders Most certainly. Gratefully, I must say I blame you, for that Martini bug bites deep when you spend a few minutes with one...

  • @justdustino1371
    @justdustino1371 5 лет назад +5

    I love your videos..... good history mixed with comedy and a splash of satire..... RUclips is..., I don't know..."losing touch". Maybe a new platform will come along soon. Be nice if the NRA and NSSF would collaborate to open a platform with content providers paid from advertising fees from friendly, aligned companies.

  • @TheAir2142
    @TheAir2142 5 лет назад

    Speaking calmly in the midst of battle. So very British.

  • @willirwin21
    @willirwin21 5 лет назад +6

    As an NCO, I can see privates haven't changed...

  • @matthewheide4797
    @matthewheide4797 Год назад

    Epic intro! Now I need to watch Rorke's Drift for the umpteenth time.

  • @kevinhays2000
    @kevinhays2000 5 лет назад

    Hello. It is too mad that "RUclips" would take a vid and delete it off of your service. You talk historical facts that one can never duplicate. I am always in need of a teacher when I am in need of facts. Thank you.

  • @johannesvanhoek9080
    @johannesvanhoek9080 5 лет назад

    Your channel is one of the best of the best 👍

  • @pacman10182
    @pacman10182 5 лет назад +1

    subbed in a heartbeat

  • @OEFvet0311
    @OEFvet0311 5 лет назад +1

    I love this channel! 😂

  • @fenrirrising131
    @fenrirrising131 5 лет назад +2

    I love these videos of yours . And poor makenzie, will he ever catch a break? Lol

  • @davidherbst
    @davidherbst 5 лет назад +13

    Those McKenzies over at RUclips buggering things up is gettin tiresome…

  • @blueband8114
    @blueband8114 5 лет назад

    Why have i only seen this now, been subscribed for nearly 2yrs.

  • @hessex1899
    @hessex1899 5 месяцев назад

    I use 480gr 0.459" paper patched bullets from Buffalo Arms, which have a final OD of 0.465 with two wraps of 9 pound paper. Under that I have a stack of Walters wads and SPG to the neck/shoulder, enough dried cream of wheat to fill from the top of the charge to the shoulder/neck line, and under that 85 grains of Swiss 1.5F black powder. I use large rifle primers and Jamison brass, as I find that the Magtech brass, once blown out, have too much capacity. I do not resize brass, I just blow them out with what ever bullet fits then wash them with hot soapy water and a brush, then tumble them, after each firing.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 месяцев назад +1

      Lot's of variations for sure!

    • @hessex1899
      @hessex1899 5 месяцев назад

      BACO (Buffalo Arms) is an absolutely amazing source of BPCR/Muzzle stuffer, erm, stuff. :)

  • @jeremygunslinger1948
    @jeremygunslinger1948 5 лет назад +1

    as a fellow youtube ive been having the same problem. i hope youtube changes its was soon

  • @Thorsaxe777
    @Thorsaxe777 5 лет назад +2

    Many Creators are loading to Utahgunexchange.

  • @clockmonkey
    @clockmonkey 5 лет назад

    My best guess is the Zulus were victorious mainly because they ran towards "us", accepted the very heavy casualties and won the subsequent melee.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад +1

      More of "ran around" than "towards".... this precipitated a collapse that enabled them the close.... :-)

  • @boatboattmmrp9950
    @boatboattmmrp9950 5 лет назад +2

    RUclips: “History offends us.“👏👏

  • @pmjn0943
    @pmjn0943 5 лет назад +3

    ok followed the link. very interesting Historical video, shame RUclips are being a little over reactive.

  • @alainwelonek2036
    @alainwelonek2036 3 года назад +1

    Could’n find the video
    I do have a ( maybe stupid) question, I have a 1876 martini enfield mk II do I have the choice between paper patch bullet or grease groves
    When I’m casting bullets
    And what kind of grease do you use
    Thank you

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 года назад

      Hi there. The lubrication is 50/50 shortening and beeswax adjusted for the season. The grease groove bullet will be easier to get up and running...

  • @generalrobertelee1844
    @generalrobertelee1844 5 лет назад

    I know it's not about British ammo but I'm gotten interested into the berdan 2 rifle using 10.75x58mmR , also known as the 42 russian i know what to us as in the powder and brass, but not the projectiles and the die set

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад

      I have no experience with that calibre, sorry.

    • @generalrobertelee1844
      @generalrobertelee1844 5 лет назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders I was hoping that someone knows someone who did loads for that caliber, i know it's something similar the martini henry round

  • @stephenburns2550
    @stephenburns2550 8 месяцев назад +1

    All your links in the description are blocked for some reason :( I’m in Australia

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for making me aware. I'll look into it.

    • @rohannelson7585
      @rohannelson7585 6 месяцев назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders Yep, i’m also in Oz

  • @dennispenton2052
    @dennispenton2052 5 лет назад

    Rob - Really enjoy all your videos. Very Informative & well done. In your reloading video for the Greased Martini Henry Bullet you use a grease cookie. But in the Greased Bullet for the Snider, you don't use a greased cookie. Why ?

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад

      Hi Dennis. Have you watched the "Working up" series on the Snider?... I talk about that very thing there.. Cheers.

  • @agoodman5352
    @agoodman5352 5 лет назад

    This guys is awesome 🧐🇨🇦

  • @MrPh30
    @MrPh30 5 лет назад

    The .450 Ne was banned from use in Sudan and India in 1905 due to unfriendlies could use the components in MH, well if they only had tried on that there would be a beja less or so.

  • @АндрейШмырев-л5м
    @АндрейШмырев-л5м 5 лет назад

    Прикольный автор видео.....юмор жить помогает!!!!

  • @Draftsman17
    @Draftsman17 2 года назад

    I Figure this as good a video to ask this question as any as it is relevant to the 577/450 Martini Henry cartridge. I recently acquired a Portuguese M1886 Kropatscheck. I’ve had to do my own in depth research on the ammunition supply since there isn’t even a Wikipedia page on the 8x60mmR Guedes or 8x56mmR Corto, and I’ve found something that you might be able add some insight to.
    From what I’ve turned up for information on the original loading for the Kropatscheck, it was 4.5 grams of RFG2. I know this to be the same powder used in the 577/450 almost exclusively. And it’s shorthand for Rifle, Fine Grain 2 in typical British nomenclature. I’ve also seen databases calling fire 70grains of Fg I know people tend to use FFg black powder for cartridges like the 577/450 and the 8mm Portuguese these days, but I’ve read in several places online that people have gained a major degree of accuracy by swapping to Fg from of FFg. In your experience what’s the better choice of powder Fg or FFg as a modern surrogate for RFG2? And or what are your thoughts on this?

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  2 года назад

      Hi there. I have only used FFg. There are other variables too, such as brand... Swiss is generally the best, quality-wise. I use Goex although supplies are dwindling...

    • @Draftsman17
      @Draftsman17 2 года назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders i see, makes sense. I have heard Swiss is basically top of the line stuff and I’ve been debating getting it or the cheaper Shuetzen brand. The only semi-concrete evidence I can find to the Swiss being better is the price tag being higher. into the original British powder a bit more, and from what several forums seem to agree is the Swiss 1.5 is as close to the original in physical powder corn/grain size but the specific density is better matched by Wano brand black powder (idk if that’s even made anymore.) This is my first dabbling with Black powder so it’s unfamiliar territory. I’m not 100% sure what the in’s and outs are, and what the actual effective difference between the different F’s are its the same powder (per brans) just broken down smaller and smaller thus burning faster and building pressure quicker. I am looking to more or less recreate the military loading, or perhaps down-load to say 60-65 grains down from 70 so as to not work a 137 year old rifle too hard.
      Also yeah from what I understand Goex isn’t made anymore unfortunately.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  2 года назад +1

      @@Draftsman17 FFg will be just fine. Don't worry about "pushing too hard" with what are normal loadings... the thing was proofed at waaaaay more than that.... Here's an example... I shoot 85gr of FFg in my Martini (as you may be aware from the videos) that's Goex... the Velocity is about 1200(+)... which is slightly slower than the service velocity of the era at 1300(ish).... I have found that FFg is somewhat cleaner than Fg. In the end, if this is something that interests you, you are going to shoot enough to experiment... so pick one now, and then pick the other for the next round of trials!

    • @Draftsman17
      @Draftsman17 2 года назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders There’s a good degree of sense in that. My erring on the side of lighter loads comes from my working with smokeless powders exclusively up until buying the kropatscheck. I suppose there is a minor degree of economy to be gained by using less powder, though its a matter of getting and extra 5-10 rounds per pound of powder. I’ll look into getting some 2f powder might start with Swiss as it’s seemingly top dog, but the Schuetzen is tempting when it’s $9 less a pound. I could try some of those modern black powder substitutes like pyrodex or something similar. But as you’d probably say, “in the sprit of doings things properly and going through the effort of forming my own brass. There really is no substitute.”
      And agreed, later experiments are going to be done. There’s even a military smokeless loading for the Kropatscheck but there’s even less data on that.

  • @blueband8114
    @blueband8114 5 лет назад

    Why youtube find fit to delete videos that have been out there a while and are educational, i'll never know.

  • @Sheerwater909
    @Sheerwater909 5 лет назад +1

    Great comeback video to the local naysayers. :D

  • @simonbrozyna8406
    @simonbrozyna8406 3 года назад

    Great video! What precisely is the make of the mould? Where can I get a grease groove, triple cavity mould?

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  3 года назад

      HI there. It's there, in the full video linked to in the description of this one.

  • @seanjoseph8637
    @seanjoseph8637 5 лет назад

    Full30 is a good place to post vids.

  • @kearnsey64
    @kearnsey64 5 лет назад

    Looks like you got your hands on a proper foreign service helmet?? Nice!!

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад

      Indeed.. very hard to come by but thanks to certain friends of the Channel (and personally) things fell into place.

    • @kearnsey64
      @kearnsey64 5 лет назад

      I would LOVE to see a video on it and the difference between the new one and the one's we are forced to buy. I would love to know where the participants at Ft. Rinella get theirs??

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад +1

      @@kearnsey64 Couldn't tell you, but the next video release will explain where it came from.

    • @kearnsey64
      @kearnsey64 5 лет назад

      Your a gentleman and a scholar!

  • @MM-op6ti
    @MM-op6ti 8 месяцев назад

    So hard to find this video

  • @simonlaws6863
    @simonlaws6863 5 лет назад +4

    keep up this channel the basterds can not take away a freedom .live on private jones 👍🏻

  • @robertmiles1603
    @robertmiles1603 Год назад

    Is that bigger or smaller than a .50 - 140 Sharps bullet?

  • @pappajudas9267
    @pappajudas9267 5 лет назад

    My devices don't seem to like playing video's on the address you've linked unfortunately.

  • @bobm7514
    @bobm7514 2 года назад

    Rob: I know its been a bit since you posted this. But, I have a competition shoot coming up and I happen to have drawn a M-H as my competition weapon. Is there some way I can connect (I dont have Facebook) to discuss nuances etc. of the M-H?

  • @dukesofdevon
    @dukesofdevon 5 лет назад

    Seriously... youtube needs to sort this out...

  • @Diebulfrog79
    @Diebulfrog79 5 лет назад

    Got your back it's the evil YT.

  • @JenniferinIllinois
    @JenniferinIllinois 5 лет назад +1

    Mackenzie is at it again!
    Phew, so glad RUclips is keeping us all safe from the gangsters wielding Martini Henry rifles. SMH

  • @MrRedbeard762
    @MrRedbeard762 5 лет назад

    A very clever Video, fun and informative. RUclips is getting more annoying every day with their PC bullshit.

  • @brickproduction1815
    @brickproduction1815 5 лет назад

    Is this like that Zulu Dawn battle? What's that name with the British defeat?

  • @hamm6035
    @hamm6035 5 лет назад

    Hi Rob. The link not working very well. It directs me there I see the page then back to RUclips.

    • @cyclonetaylor7838
      @cyclonetaylor7838 5 лет назад

      Same thing with me. The fix is to just hit the link again after getting the first error message.

  • @rynoclaassen4823
    @rynoclaassen4823 8 месяцев назад

    Hi Rob, do you have another channel with your videos? I am blocked from uge and have no idea why. I have watched your videos there multiple times.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  8 месяцев назад +2

      I will get this on Playeur so the UGE thing isn't a bother...

    • @rynoclaassen4823
      @rynoclaassen4823 8 месяцев назад

      Will you add the links to the descriptions of this video as well as the 303 one please?

    • @rohannelson7585
      @rohannelson7585 6 месяцев назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders. Thanks Rob - UGE is blocked here too. Signed up to playeur. Could you please put the stolen Lee Metford video up there as well?

    • @rohannelson7585
      @rohannelson7585 5 месяцев назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders- still looking forward to this please!

  • @Stellar12316
    @Stellar12316 5 лет назад

    Why did they delete this videos

  • @coenvanwyk1
    @coenvanwyk1 5 лет назад

    Is there any truth in the story that the Martini, if shot long and hard, might jam due to black power residue 'glueing' the cartridge in the chamber? I have heard t said that at Ishaldwana troopers resorted to levering the locks open with their feet, sometimes ripping the casing and rendering the rifles inoperable.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад

      Any rifle if shot long and hard (in the context of it's era) will jam... did they jam at Islandlwana? Certainly there were some stoppages at given times... did it affect the way the battle went? Not at all. If you go to the video on last years "Cabin Fever Challenge" I shoot 20 rounds rapid for that shoot without any issues... for example. I have shot up to 50 in succession without fault... (that gets a bit expensive though..)

    • @coenvanwyk1
      @coenvanwyk1 5 лет назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders Thanks for the reply. Do we have any idea about how many rounds would have been fired per rifleman at Isandlwana? It might be a little late to get the British Army to fund research of this nature...

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад

      @@coenvanwyk1 That information is about,... I'd have to look it up... such figures are somewhat erroneous anyways, as invariably the average is calculated between all companies who would have seen differing amounts of action both during the initial static phase and the withdrawal back to the camp...

    • @coenvanwyk1
      @coenvanwyk1 5 лет назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders I guess I have to do some digging to find the source of the story I mentioned. Will report back, Sergeant!
      PS Regarding screwdrivers, were the troopers not issued with that three-in-one tool which included a screwdriver?

    • @coenvanwyk1
      @coenvanwyk1 5 лет назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders I gound two references you probably are familiar with: samilitaryhistory.org/vol046fm.html which debunks most of the myths, and then a discussion on www.1879zuluwar.com/t9035-overheated-martini-henry which has interesting comment on the overheating issue. Perhaps the issue might be the use of coiled brass cartridge cases? Interesting historic topic, and until we have a time machine, nobody will really know. Thank you for an interesting and stimulating series.

  • @SethAmaradasa
    @SethAmaradasa 5 лет назад

    How come it got taken down? Copyright strike?

  • @Tyler-xh2sg
    @Tyler-xh2sg 5 лет назад

    Is a Mk I cartridge any different than one you'd reload for a Mk II?

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад

      Are you referring to the mark of cartridge or the cartridge that you use for a mark of rifle?

    • @Tyler-xh2sg
      @Tyler-xh2sg 5 лет назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders I ordered a Mk II rifle from IMA and was just curious if the reloading process and materials was the same for MKI - MKIV Martini Henry rifles. Also do you recommend x-ring services for molds? Thanks!

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад

      They all take the same ammunition. As for X Ring, have you spent much time watching Martini videos on the Channel?..... :-) ..... Yes, I recommend X Ring.

    • @Tyler-xh2sg
      @Tyler-xh2sg 5 лет назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders I've just started watching actually, I love your passion. Much better than the other Martini Henry videos I watch.

  • @TheMajorActual
    @TheMajorActual 5 лет назад +1

    It is increasingly clear, that everything needs to move to BitChute.

  • @KhanGirey
    @KhanGirey 5 лет назад

    Have you tried loading without any filler? I've been doing that recently, and haven't noticed any accuracy differences.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад

      I have not, though I know of more than a few who don't use a filler and they swear by it!

    • @KhanGirey
      @KhanGirey 5 лет назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders If I don't use a filler, should I still use a wax wad? I've been doing that, but I'm worried that over time the wax might either slip or drip down into the powder and mess up the ignition.

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад

      @@KhanGirey They typically use a bullet with many lube grooves and not a wad....and as they mostly shoot target style, that will last them the 10 or so rounds they need to shot... all depends on what you want to do with them...

    • @KhanGirey
      @KhanGirey 5 лет назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders gotcha. Before, I was using a wax wad, with wax in the groove as well

  • @506PeaceWalker
    @506PeaceWalker 4 года назад

    Man, I love your videos, that page is cancer though. But well, at least there are alternatives to You Tube to keep ya amazing content around.

  • @triarii_00
    @triarii_00 5 лет назад

    Have you considered bitchute?

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  5 лет назад

      I have, it just that they all take time to sit and upload... in time.

  • @545x39Rat
    @545x39Rat 5 лет назад +2

    AGAIN!!!!!!

  • @JoanieKennedy
    @JoanieKennedy 5 лет назад

    That's a mean cartridge

  • @notarokescientist3003
    @notarokescientist3003 3 года назад

    Well I feel safer knowing it is less likely now someone will arm themselves with the knowledge to make their own Martini Henry cartridges and mount an insurrection

  • @francis400
    @francis400 Год назад

    Just because they told him Pith helmets were bullet proof....!

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT 5 лет назад

    try Full30,com to post videos

  • @observer4916
    @observer4916 5 лет назад

    why the hell does youtube do this?

  • @nelsonnoname001
    @nelsonnoname001 5 лет назад

    No, Thank You!

  • @moanapozzi308
    @moanapozzi308 Год назад

    Consider how fool red-dressed people was: very clear targets...

  • @morgs456
    @morgs456 3 года назад

    No, thank you sir!

  • @richardbrewster9733
    @richardbrewster9733 5 лет назад

    What a great shame, anyone looking at any of your videos with even a shred of interest in history and fact would see that they are the work of not only an enthusiastic historian, but a good presenter who doesn't glorify or encourage violence. The mind boggles.

  • @gunslinger1911a1
    @gunslinger1911a1 5 лет назад

    Next, he'll not be using his stripper clips.

  • @jeremyhannaford1306
    @jeremyhannaford1306 5 лет назад +1

    Ignoring the misspelling of a Scottish surname- I thought the rule was not showing how to modify a gun to be able to shoot faster, not, after restoring a 120 year old gun not being able to shoot it at all. Maybe RUclips is anti-Canadian, or are just idiots

    • @Kumimono
      @Kumimono 5 лет назад

      Well, showing drills on how to shoot muzzleloaders would indeed fall under that "shoot faster" guideline. Perhaps even 3 shots a minute!

  • @Jason-mg3fk
    @Jason-mg3fk 2 года назад +1

    As if criminals or mass shooters are gonna use a video about how to load .303 brit or an old black powder cartridge to inflict mass casualties on American orphanages or some such nonsense

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  2 года назад

      What do you do, eh?

    • @Jason-mg3fk
      @Jason-mg3fk 2 года назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders oh I’m just a student, I’m just saying it’s dumb for youtube to remove informational content about loading from this site

    • @britishmuzzleloaders
      @britishmuzzleloaders  2 года назад +1

      @@Jason-mg3fk It's YT,.... They do what they do....

    • @Jason-mg3fk
      @Jason-mg3fk 2 года назад

      @@britishmuzzleloaders that they do. I love your videos! Thanks for all you do

  • @zacharyroach1990
    @zacharyroach1990 5 лет назад +3

    damned infernal youtube snow flakes, what is someone going to do with a martini other than range shooting?

    • @RealLuckless
      @RealLuckless 5 лет назад

      Well, some people do enjoy getting out hunting with older weapons...

    •  5 лет назад +3

      Mass genocide like do you know the numbers of gun related deaths.. that are mostly suicides
      Trust me these people would bitch if you were showing an old matchlock or wheellock gun (can't think of the term for a moment rifle would be wrong as would musket)
      Authoritarians that want people defenceless so they can be tyrants

  • @string-bag
    @string-bag 5 лет назад

  • @coenvanwyk1
    @coenvanwyk1 5 лет назад

    What stupidity, deleting something of such historic value. Perhaps you should have girls in bikini's, then they might keep it.

  • @B_Squadron_Y_Patrol_Planchet
    @B_Squadron_Y_Patrol_Planchet 5 лет назад

    vandals........