One of the best things you could do is just slowly acquire the parts so when something happens, you're ready to go. The hard parts are the shifter box, and the pedal box. Pedal box is probably the hardest to find since you need one from a Bosch car, however it's the same pedal box in your current car and it's fairly easy to fabricate a pedal. Good luck
Ridiculous cost. I was looking around trying to find out how much it would cost to convert 360 F1 Ferrari to manual transmission. I thought the kit would be around $3000 on the high side, but when I looked on some website they were asking $12,500 for just the kit, uninstalled. Another guy said it would cost $10,000 to install and another guy said $35,000 for parts and labor. I think they’re taking advantage of people charging that much money for a shifter kit, it’s ridiculous. You said that you converted your 355 in one day. Where did you buy your kit and what did you pay? If someone asked you to convert their car from F1 to manual approximately how much would it cost? I would feel like an idiot spending $35,000 to install a shifter. Great channel, you are an excellent mechanic.
To my knowledge, mine was the first 355 converted. It used to be taboo, in fact I used to get flak for having a converted car. Parts were cheap back then, you could probably buy all the parts for like 3 to 4 grand. But then the taboo went away, everyone starting doing it and supply and demand caused the prices to skyrocket. I've been debating covering my 430. But I will not buy the 25k eag kit. Not a fan of aftermarket parts, I've heard complaints, and it's way to expensive for what it is. The doctor S kits is 12k... Better reviews. But likely I'll piece together all the OEM parts needed and go that route, just takes a lot of patience.
@@ExoticCarDIY Actually I was going to suggest that you produce your own kit and instead of charging 20,000 to $35,000 you could do it for under $10,000. I doubt very much that the conversion kit for $12,000 cost more than $1000 to produce. but you may not agree. You could have them manufactured in China. I have some connections there.
@@ExoticCarDIY Another reason this could be a very good business for you is because the manual transmission Ferraris cars are becoming a lot more expensive than the F1 Ferraris, so I think there will be people out there who will be buying the F1 cars due to their lower cost, even though these people would prefer a manual transmission Ferrari. You just need to get the word out there that you can do this conversion for under $10,000 instead of 20,000 or $35,000.
Thanks for making this video im literally in the middle of this conversion right now haha. Im going to be stripping all the F1 electrical harness since i dont have the f1 actuators and pumps anymore.
@@devilsbokchoi3791 initially I had mine set up so I could go back and forth between F1 and gated. So I left the harness in place. The more time goes on, the less I want to go back to an F1. My IG page is knr.motorsports
@@Spencer_Marks It all depends on where you can source your parts from. Using typical reseller, dismantler, and eBay parts probably anywhere from 3 to $8,000. What I would do is be patient while doing your parts search, hopefully you can end up towards that lower number.
Good for you, how to video helps, as well as part 2. my least favorite part it the connection of the shift rod to the trans. I would have done it differently. one of the guys i was helping drew up in CAD a part to CNC that connected them easily, but I lost contact with him. other s have simply machined the manual version to accept the different shaft size.
Hi, great video, thanks! I’m just going to start doing the conversion on my channel - see sports car story - I only have one question: when you put the oil temp in the centre console gauge set, where do you get the feed from? Rgds, Pete
If you poke around in the area of your oil tank, you'll actually find there is already a wire for the sensor. That wire leads to a harness underneath the dash, from there it was just a pretty simple hookup. There is a thread on fchat talking about adding the oil temperature sensor to F1 cars, I made a post on there about where the wire is and how to hook it up. I'll see if I can find it and link it here
Great video, inspired me to go buy all the parts needed and getting ready to dig in. Quick question: There's another more recent video of someone doing this conversion and they have additional steps including dropping the fuel tank to run the clutch line and changing the clutch throwout bearing to a manual specific part (removing the bumper and the clutch housing). WDYT?
For the clutch line, depends on where you run it. there is already group of pipes and tubes and brake lines that runs down the center. Yes, many of those turn and go up above the tank, there are a few harnesses that go underneath the tank, like the parking brake, the fuel pump harness fuel sender etc. It's obviously a straight shot and much easier to go under the tank, the drawback is if you ever do pull the tank, you're going to have to disconnect this line. I chose to go underneath the tank and then follow the subframe to the driver side where it follows the frame up and attaches to the original connector That's for the TO bearing, there was a lot of debate on the forum. Basically a manual throwout bearing has rubber seals which are only compatible with DOT4 brake fluid, thus they cannot be used in the F1 setup which uses ATF. However, an F1 throwout bearing uses Viton seals, which is good with either fluid. My car still had the F1 throwout bearing in it, then after 9 years of Dot 4 brake fluid, not a single sign of leakage.
@@ExoticCarDIYhey where did you get the clutch line that goes underneath the tank? I’ve collected all the parts for this conversion so far but I have no idea where to get the same clutch line setup that you had on yours, any ideas? Thanks man!
@@emronhenry that's really the only thing you have to fabricate, since it's really not feasible to buy is from ferrari.. You can get a roll of copper or stainless brake line and a simple crimp / flare tool and craft your own line fairly effortlessly. To be honest I can't remember what size, I think it's only 1/4 inch
On the F1 system, for safety reasons I assume, if the door or hood is unlatched, it will not allow the transmission to shift. Many of the f1 issues are simple things like this. Anyway, once converted, virtually no issues LOL
@@ExoticCarDIY I need the ECU, the one located behind the driver's seat. Or to know if there are spare parts to make it manual. If you give me your whatsapp number it would be ideal.
no, the gear indicator receives its signal from the tcu, which is no longer hooked up. I removed the indicator to install the correct oil pressure/water temps gauge from a manual car.
Hi Your video is excellent and I have started the conversion to manual ,however one thing I found that doesn’t correspond to the manual is there is a button with a skid Icon on it that sits in the FI reverse lever actuator in the cab that doesn’t have a corresponding electrical box to reconnect Does this function become obsolete one you disconnect the electronics that run the FI system ? Any advice gratefully received.cheers Graham
Remember, the 355 really doesn't have any computer traction control systems other than ABS. The one exception to that, is that skid button on the F1 shifter. But it's not traction control, what it does is it slips the clutch and starts in second gear for low traction situations, like ice or snow. It's 100% a function of the TCU.
Where did your 6 speed parts all come from? I want to convert my 1998 355 F1 so I do appreciate the parts list and the detailed video. However I'm having a helluva time finding the parts themselves.
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This car is a master piece so under rated!!!
Dude......you NAILED the "regurgitating" bit :)
I am going to rewatch this and definitely work out the conversion next time the actuator has any issue.
One of the best things you could do is just slowly acquire the parts so when something happens, you're ready to go. The hard parts are the shifter box, and the pedal box. Pedal box is probably the hardest to find since you need one from a Bosch car, however it's the same pedal box in your current car and it's fairly easy to fabricate a pedal.
Good luck
Beautiful car!
Nice to see it in a color other than red.
I definitely am a sucker for non-reds f-cars
Ridiculous cost. I was looking around trying to find out how much it would cost to convert 360 F1 Ferrari to manual transmission. I thought the kit would be around $3000 on the high side, but when I looked on some website they were asking $12,500 for just the kit, uninstalled. Another guy said it would cost $10,000 to install and another guy said $35,000 for parts and labor. I think they’re taking advantage of people charging that much money for a shifter kit, it’s ridiculous. You said that you converted your 355 in one day. Where did you buy your kit and what did you pay? If someone asked you to convert their car from F1 to manual approximately how much would it cost? I would feel like an idiot spending $35,000 to install a shifter. Great channel, you are an excellent mechanic.
To my knowledge, mine was the first 355 converted. It used to be taboo, in fact I used to get flak for having a converted car. Parts were cheap back then, you could probably buy all the parts for like 3 to 4 grand.
But then the taboo went away, everyone starting doing it and supply and demand caused the prices to skyrocket.
I've been debating covering my 430. But I will not buy the 25k eag kit. Not a fan of aftermarket parts, I've heard complaints, and it's way to expensive for what it is.
The doctor S kits is 12k... Better reviews. But likely I'll piece together all the OEM parts needed and go that route, just takes a lot of patience.
@@ExoticCarDIY Actually I was going to suggest that you produce your own kit and instead of charging 20,000 to $35,000 you could do it for under $10,000. I doubt very much that the conversion kit for $12,000 cost more than $1000 to produce. but you may not agree. You could have them manufactured in China. I have some connections there.
@@surreallife777 that be a great idea, not sure how to commission something like that
@@ExoticCarDIY Another reason this could be a very good business for you is because the manual transmission Ferraris cars are becoming a lot more expensive than the F1 Ferraris, so I think there will be people out there who will be buying the F1 cars due to their lower cost, even though these people would prefer a manual transmission Ferrari. You just need to get the word out there that you can do this conversion for under $10,000 instead of 20,000 or $35,000.
Great video!! 🔥🔥🔥 We need more please!
Engine out/belts in the fall, maybe a few more how to's, also thinking about a series of performance test
Thanks for making this video im literally in the middle of this conversion right now haha. Im going to be stripping all the F1 electrical harness since i dont have the f1 actuators and pumps anymore.
Awesome. Let's me know how it goes. I've been talking to several others doing swaps as well.
@@devilsbokchoi3791 initially I had mine set up so I could go back and forth between F1 and gated. So I left the harness in place. The more time goes on, the less I want to go back to an F1.
My IG page is knr.motorsports
Any idea on price of such conversion? Very tempting
@@Spencer_Marks It all depends on where you can source your parts from. Using typical reseller, dismantler, and eBay parts probably anywhere from 3 to $8,000. What I would do is be patient while doing your parts search, hopefully you can end up towards that lower number.
@@ExoticCarDIY do you by chance have a way of getting in touch? Would love to talk if you have some time
I wanna do this to mine; thanks for the vid!
Nice job with the content. Amazing car. You didnt talk about the clutch pedal at all. How do you do the install?
Exotic Car DIY Great video! - Doing the conversion to my '99 F1 Spyder and would appreciate your insight
Good for you, how to video helps, as well as part 2. my least favorite part it the connection of the shift rod to the trans. I would have done it differently. one of the guys i was helping drew up in CAD a part to CNC that connected them easily, but I lost contact with him. other s have simply machined the manual version to accept the different shaft size.
and..............GREAT vido! Thanks for sharing with everyone!
Thanks man, I cant wait to do another one!
Hi, great video, thanks! I’m just going to start doing the conversion on my channel - see sports car story - I only have one question: when you put the oil temp in the centre console gauge set, where do you get the feed from? Rgds, Pete
If you poke around in the area of your oil tank, you'll actually find there is already a wire for the sensor.
That wire leads to a harness underneath the dash, from there it was just a pretty simple hookup.
There is a thread on fchat talking about adding the oil temperature sensor to F1 cars, I made a post on there about where the wire is and how to hook it up. I'll see if I can find it and link it here
Great video, inspired me to go buy all the parts needed and getting ready to dig in. Quick question: There's another more recent video of someone doing this conversion and they have additional steps including dropping the fuel tank to run the clutch line and changing the clutch throwout bearing to a manual specific part (removing the bumper and the clutch housing). WDYT?
For the clutch line, depends on where you run it. there is already group of pipes and tubes and brake lines that runs down the center. Yes, many of those turn and go up above the tank, there are a few harnesses that go underneath the tank, like the parking brake, the fuel pump harness fuel sender etc. It's obviously a straight shot and much easier to go under the tank, the drawback is if you ever do pull the tank, you're going to have to disconnect this line.
I chose to go underneath the tank and then follow the subframe to the driver side where it follows the frame up and attaches to the original connector
That's for the TO bearing, there was a lot of debate on the forum. Basically a manual throwout bearing has rubber seals which are only compatible with DOT4 brake fluid, thus they cannot be used in the F1 setup which uses ATF. However, an F1 throwout bearing uses Viton seals, which is good with either fluid.
My car still had the F1 throwout bearing in it, then after 9 years of Dot 4 brake fluid, not a single sign of leakage.
@@ExoticCarDIYhey where did you get the clutch line that goes underneath the tank? I’ve collected all the parts for this conversion so far but I have no idea where to get the same clutch line setup that you had on yours, any ideas? Thanks man!
@@emronhenry that's really the only thing you have to fabricate, since it's really not feasible to buy is from ferrari..
You can get a roll of copper or stainless brake line and a simple crimp / flare tool and craft your own line fairly effortlessly. To be honest I can't remember what size, I think it's only 1/4 inch
Great content.
Thanks!
Does $15,000 sound about right for all of the needed 6-speed conversion parts?
The conversion has become quite popular, and the parts have become very scarce, typical used to be around 10K now it seems to be pushing almost 20K
What does the car do when the hood or door is open?
On the F1 system, for safety reasons I assume, if the door or hood is unlatched, it will not allow the transmission to shift. Many of the f1 issues are simple things like this. Anyway, once converted, virtually no issues LOL
Do you have the F1 gearbox control unit?
Did you need one or something? I seen talking about the actual actuator or the pump and power unit?
@@ExoticCarDIY I need the ECU, the one located behind the driver's seat.
Or to know if there are spare parts to make it manual.
If you give me your whatsapp number it would be ideal.
Would the F1's gear indicator still work with the manual transmission?
no, the gear indicator receives its signal from the tcu, which is no longer hooked up.
I removed the indicator to install the correct oil pressure/water temps gauge from a manual car.
Where did you source parts from?
Ferparts. They are very hard to find now
Hi Your video is excellent and I have started the conversion to manual ,however one thing I found that doesn’t correspond to the manual is there is a button with a skid Icon on it that sits in the FI reverse lever actuator in the cab that doesn’t have a corresponding electrical box to reconnect Does this function become obsolete one you disconnect the electronics that run the FI system ? Any advice gratefully received.cheers Graham
Remember, the 355 really doesn't have any computer traction control systems other than ABS.
The one exception to that, is that skid button on the F1 shifter. But it's not traction control, what it does is it slips the clutch and starts in second gear for low traction situations, like ice or snow.
It's 100% a function of the TCU.
How do you like your Hamann wheels? How wide are the rear wheels?
I'm generally an OEM wheel guy, but with the 355, there pg3s just look perfect IMO.
They are 19x8 and 19x11
Where did your 6 speed parts all come from?
I want to convert my 1998 355 F1 so I do appreciate the parts list and the detailed video. However I'm having a helluva time finding the parts themselves.
I got all my 6pd parts from ferrparts