SRAM GX vs XX1 CHAIN | HOW LONG DO THEY LAST
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Having used both the GX and XX1 SRAM chains. It is amazing how much better the XX1 chain is in every aspect.
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Just wore out my nx chain with 290 miles! Video was exactly what I was looking for thanks
honestly in my experience GX is not as good but decent. However NX/SX are dangerously bad. I learned it the hard way because a new cannondale i bought was fitted with one in 600km it was dead but it had killed the pricey GX cassette in the process. Only run X01 now.
Just going to replace the chain on my bike and started to favour the XX1, This video pushed me over the fence. Thanks
I’ve got a different story. Fitted brand new 12 speed drive train and bought 3 gx chains. Rotated religiously at 800 km lubed every 70 km with squirt cleaned very regularly. Gave up measuring after a couple of rotations.
Replaced everything last week after 11354 km. Only replaced as shifting was getting a bit sloppy . Each gx chain did a bit under 4000km. Haven’t bothered measuring again. Only time I had a little slippage was for a few km after changing each chain. And I ride often in a dusty and sometimes sandy environment. My mate who has done the same as me but is 15kilo lighter told me last night he’s done 12923km and still going.
Even though I had excellent results I’ve fitted an xx1 chain as I got a bit tired of changing chains each 6 weeks.
I’m really confused by people who throw away their chains after 600 km
Same here, my GX cassette has 13875 km, in my case I have 4 chains (2GX and 2XX1 with 500km rotations), the GX have almost 0.5% while the XX1 have around 0.25% (measured with CC- 2 parktool), at the moment each chain has 3500km each and I still have no problems.
I get about 1000 miles on my GX chain and I maintain it regularly and check for wear. That's ok an ebike too, in wet muddy Scottish conditions
I measured my chain with a park tool; if obviously called for replacing. Put on a new chain, but it did not mesh well. Put the old chain back on. Oiled it with baby oil. It's been a few hundred miles. I will replace the cassette and chain when slipping and skipping take away the joy I get from cycling.
I was going to say that your cassette probably needs changing if it’s slipping with a new chain. Not sure about the baby oil though 😀. Must pick up a lot of dirt.
Nice video Brian, good info.
Unfortunately for me, I did not see the same results that you did. Was averaging about 450-550 miles per GX chain with 0.5% stretch. Tried the XX1 and was only able to get approximately 600 miles with 0.75% stretch. So for me having a stash of GX will work better for me I am thinking. I will say shifting is smoother with the XX1 and the chains do look much better IMHO.
check yr chain lubricant. xx1 is the most wear durable chain in the world. Unless yr averaging around 10,000watts, that short lifespan will be poor lubricant choice
Very helpfull thanks.
Great Video !!
Great review thank you. Did you also compare the xo1 to the xx1?
Thanks for watching. The XO1 and XX1 are basically the same. The major difference is weight. But I have not done a direct comparison between the two.
There is no way a chain would 12x longer. Changing the GX so often would strongly suggest that you got something very wrong when fitting the GX chain.
SA accent is so interesting, I could listen to this gentleman explain anything.
Agreed. GX chains are utter garbage. Maybe it’ll be fine if you’re just doing casual riding around the block but if you are putting down some high wattage you need something stronger. Never go wrong with XX1 or X01 chains. There are other options out there as well though. I used YBN Ti chain while waiting for XX1 chain & boy I was impressed. I was pedaling hard with lots of climbing and put over 1000 miles over 3 months. It showed less than .25 wear
Interesting, im on the cheapest one the sx and its really smooth for me
I have had my new bike since March this year, I've been riding it regularly and it game with full SRAM GX Eagle. I'm a roadie and XC racer and yesterday when I hammered down some watts on my group set the chain snapped off, not at the links you can open (forgot the name lol), the literal chain bent and snapped.
Always immaculately taken care of and always well-lubed. Thinking of buying X01 or XX1 chain tomorrow for sure, I don't want the same thing to happen again (and the shifting was becoming a bit dodgy because of the chain wearing out so fast.)
Will try on my enduro
Keep it up watched chain gx vs x01 and your cassette video carnt seem to find your 1995 cassette review tho did it last any longer? P.s keep it up with vlogs
Hi,
Thanks for watching. I have not changed the x01 cassette yet. It’s still going strong. So it definitely lasts longer. As soon as I have to change it. I will do a follow up vlog
What type of chain ring were you using when you got 6600km off the XX1 chain? Was it an aluminium x-sync or a steel one?
@@craigmc2223 it was on the SRAM GX cassette and a 32 aluminum cSixx
Hello. Do you believe a 12v sram force current would work well with a 12v sram x01 cassette? Lately photos and reports of a new mountain bike sram group using flat chain...What do you think? Thank you very much
Hi, I have only tried this with a Shimano Targra and XT derailer. But this did not work, as the derailer steps did not match the cassette spacing. I think the same will happen with SRAM force and Eagle cassette
Every 500K's, wow.
At what amount of chain stretch do you swap your XX1 chain? Park Tool says to swap 11- and 12-speed chains at 0.5% wear. I'm riding XX1 and already hit 0.5 wear within the first 3,000km. Thanks!
I change at .5. But for SRAM chains. You need to use parkTool CC-4 and not CC3.2 to measure it. I was using the incorrect tool in the beginning
@@BrianMaynardLetsDoThisThing Why CC-4 instead of CC-3.2? Park Tool website says they both are compatible with SRAM 12-speed the only exception being that CC-3.2 is not compatible with AXS 12-speed chains.
I saw a XX1 chain on sale on a website and the description said that it's compatible with 10-50 tooth cassettes. My new bike has 10-52 so is there older batch of XX1 chains on market that doesn't work with 10-52 or is the description just so old that it isn't updated to 10-52 cassettes? As far as I know all Eagle products should be compatible with each other.
@@Antonmusic871 All the eagle chains will be compatible with the new 52. It must be an old description. The reason for the cc-4 has to do with the size of the rollers. The cc-4 compresses the rollers when you do the measurements. But I also did not know this. This was pointed out to me on one of my other videos: ruclips.net/video/vT4AXiLEphk/видео.html and in the comments. Andrew Venditelli pointed this out to me. He refers to this artical cyclingtips.com/2019/08/bicycle-chain-wear-and-checking-for-it/. Hope this helps
@@BrianMaynardLetsDoThisThing Thanks, I'll check it out! 👍
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x01 and xx1 only with sram. xt and xtr only with shimano. it's cheaper in the long run, less likely to leave you stranded and run better
why? Chain are basically he same... And KMC is even better according to many insiders ive heard.
@@ignaciosevil1944not even close to all the same. Like this guy in the video states, and my own personal experience. I was lucky to get my first season out of the GX chain that came on my bike before .5 wear. The XX1 chain that I put on in 2020 is still going and still doesn't measure .5. Has about 2000 miles so far
So I just got a bike with a SX cassette and needs to get a new chain as its already at .75.
Will it be the same result to have a XX1 with a SX cassette? (As you described in the video)
Yes a X01 or XX1 will definitely last much longer.
X01 vs XX1 ?
I will have to get a XO1 to try it out. But I am running a XO1 cassette. So will see how long that lasts compared to the GX. But I would think. The XO1 and XX1 should be pretty close.
My new epic evo was specced with an NX chain which I would assume is even more clunky than the GX chain.
I have just replaced it with a black XX1 chain to match the bike colour.
Hoping to get as many KMs on the chain as you have!
Dude, just had the same thing; Bought an Canyon Spectral With an GX group and an NX chain. My mates say is shifts terrible. Ill go for an XX1.. I guess
@@renemens24 After riding for over a year on the same XX1 chain, I believe it to be the best cost to benefit item you can buy. I would have gone through a couple of GX chains by now
@@renemens24 Hey in the exact same both as you with the same bike - did you get the xx1? I am wondering between gx or to go for the xx1. Did you changed yours and was there any difference?
If I smash a xx1 chain into a rock is it going last longer than a gx considering the impact.
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I have a sram gx drivetrain could I run a xx1 chain on my gx drivetrain?
Yes, no problem. I do it all the time. The XX1 and XO1 chains last much longer
@@BrianMaynardLetsDoThisThing thank u
GX chain on wifies bike only lasts about 1000km, now she's getting a XX1 .....12 times longer, lets see 😂😂
Hi, thanks for the video.
Is there a difference between gold and black xx1?
No. It is the same thing. It is easy to see the XX1 as the pins are hollow to reduce weight.
Wich is better: X01 or XX1?
They are about the same. XX1 is lighter. But that comes with an added cost
@@BrianMaynardLetsDoThisThing X01 and XX1 have the same durability?
I have not tested the X01. I will be installing it on my Camber when I change the cassette. But I am expecting the durability as the XX1
I want to upgrade to the XX1. Does the XX1 also shift and ride smoother than the GX?
If you only replace the cassette. No it will shift the same as the GX. An improvement will only come if you also change the derailleur and shifter to XO1 or XX1
I had 10-11-12 speeds bikes in the last 10 years and the reliability and durability only go down if you have more speeds. The 12 speed chains are so narrow and they are have to endure terrible cross chaining with 1x drivetrain. For me, 11 speed was already enough. Plus, a 10-52 cassette weighs a lot on your back wheel, I just don't get it!
Bro normalize your audio please
GX chain sucks balls. How’s KMC 12sp chain?
Will have to still try a KMC chain
KMC chain 11SL or EL (used for 10 speed shimano CrossCountry and for 11 speed shimano pump bike) is quite nice.
KMC x12 chains are compatible and they work but they are not 100%. I found the KMC quite noisy and didn’t shift the greatest compared to the SRAM chain. I’m running SRAM GX drivetrain with an XX1 chain now it’s much smoother and quieter and shifts perfect.
I would always run a SRAM chain with a a SRAM DRIVETRAIN to get the best performance
@@chrisbunker2573 That’s exactly my experience as well. XX1 smooth as butter!