Force ghost (my understanding) is that force ghosts continue to live as a part of the force. It is not a Jedi unique technique as it was “discovered” by a Jedi but not invented by one. Also since the force is the “living” force I would assume that if nothing was left alive then the force would fade away, ghosts included.
I quite liked the point of inaccessibility. It reminded me of those Pokemon Go rumors where there were some that only appeared in impossibly difficult to reach locations. I don't even think there were such rare Pokemon spawn points. But the myth of them was fun to think about. I also disagree with the uselessness of the Everest measurement. Yes it is perhaps redundant because of natural fluctuations in the height. But by making lots of measurements and finding out by how much it changes, we can extract real science from that.
@@regirayquaza More precise measurements of how it's changing over time, which could help us understand the way plate techtonics move. I mean, on it's own it's probably not much use, but as a data-point in a broader sample size it can be very useful. It's a bit like the mirrors we left on the moon, by making several measurements with them we've been able to determine that the moon is very slowly moving away from us. That, in turn, helps us to model all sorts of things, like how the moon and the Earth first formed.
The April fools joke is ok, under the following condition: If some Tim makes the expedition to the actuall coordinates. You will give him the golden hotstopper. I think he would have earned it.
Brady, thinking of what you asked about how people lived in antiquity, I suggest you check out something called the Heqanakht Papyrus, it's a note sent home by a Middle Kingdom Egyptian priest to his family. The translation feels strangely modern, since it's just him whining about the food they sent him and asking his mother to stop bothering his wife.
Brady, I'm interested in early people in just about exactly the same way. I think our analysis of earlier culture puts too much emphasis on 'particular things we can say for sure' (as it sort of has to). For instance we assume the Ancient Egyptians or Sumerians were obsessed with death because our most concrete evidence comes from tombs. But I bet that the daily life of the average Egyptian was much more nuanced and similar to ours. I am endlessly frustrated that we will never know for sure just what their lives were like because we will always overestimate the importance of the few things we do know, and try and apply these things to the lives early people lived. An interesting thing you can look into is the history of ancient games, as this somewhat underestimated anthropological practice is one of the few that I think tries to make a study on 'how people actually were' through analysis of the games they played.
I have a Edison Standard Phonograph model D, but it's not working, needs a new belt, and the spring is broken, and the horn is missing. I know I can fix it but I didn't want to spent the money for the parts. You can buy a working one for $500; they are not rare, nor highly sought after. I got it when we cleared out my Great Grandmother's house, it was her father's. We also have a several old hand crank plate record players that do still work. My Great Great Grandfather loved music.
Dammit dammit dammit! My family genuinely does own a cylinder phonograph that belonged to my grandmother - I could totally play the wax cylinder episode! But I got here two years too late! 😭
Don't know if this has been said, but regarding force ghosts- in the _Clone Wars_ series arond season 3 there were a couple of episodes that dove deeper into force lore, from George Lucas. In the behind the scenes of that episode I believe they mentioned they originally wanted a force ghost of an old sith (Revan) to appear- however, they ultimately decided that it didn't make sense for the dark side to be able to do that. When a Jedi (or any living being) dies, they become a part of the force- the Jedi ghosts have learned to retain their personalities after that happens. Sith and the dark side philosophy aren't particularly interested in harmony or becoming a part of anything, so force ghosts are beyond their abilities. There might have been sith ghosts in earlier media, but even before Disney reset the canon the tier system would have made this explanation take precedence. Hopefully they don't change such a major fact of the Star Wars galaxy just to rake in some cash...
After listening to _twenty-two episodes_ of Cortex in between last HI episode and this one, Brady's casual style and random topics are really throwing me off.
I have my mormor 's wax cylinder player. They aren't rare at all from what I understand. I believe my mormor had it from when she was a secretary or she got it from her mom. I'm surprised you think Tim's couldn't play it!
Oh man, Grey, that was not a good analogy. A keyboard and mouse aren't necessarily more precise than a game controller-it's entirely context sensitive.
To touch on the April Fool's thing, my "prank" is calling my Grandma a day early for her birthday, or buying her cake, or flowers delivered on April Fool's. Then "strongly" insisting that April Fool's is in fact her birthday, rather then the next day and her parents were just playing a long April Fool's prank on her.
Okay i am just 8 min in and had to type this. I knew about wax recording because. In thr netherlands and belgium there was this tv show called 'huis anubis ' ('house of anubis') which had a mystery and in the first couple of seasons they found clues from this girl who was at that point 100 years old recordings of her when she was a girl on those wax cilenders
My grandparents do have a phonograph, so I'm likely one of the rare tims that can listen to that episode. but, brady's emailing list didn't send me an email when they came out so I missed them.
You thing younger people can’t throw their voice? Think again, I normally speak at 70 decibels and typically sing at 100 decibels. Honestly, wax cylinders and pre-1925 disc records have superior audio compared to modern recording.
At what point will Hello Internet be portrayed in a special edition single-cell animation carefully hand-painted on the wall of a cave in southern France?
Same! My grandmother (born in the 1940’s) has one that her grandparents had. I never buy any of the HI sneakers or vinyl, but I kind of want to get one of these. Just like being able to play a modern video game on an old fashioned TV. An odd antique fashion for new tech.
Stanley Dodds Yeah, it is live. They recorded, edited, and broadcasted it live all at the same time. Also, "premiere" is really a synonym for "live." So if you ever see something premiering its live.
New City Flag Contest! My dad and I have been working for years to get a new City Flag for my hometown. Before it suffered from SOB (seal on a bed sheet). duluthmn.gov/duluthflagproject I thought I’d post it to the HI RUclips videos because I don’t do Twitter/Facebook/instagram/etc.
I don't want to be critical but here I am being critical. To me it seemed like half of this 1:23:57 episode, or more accurately the podcast episode at 1:24:31 was dedicated to advertising. Even when you weren't advertising you were still talking about advertising. The only thing I can really remember from this #122 podcast is you guys sitting in a pub more or less complaining about autographing merchandise (dino attack cards). This seems like the point when people start "mailing it in" with their work. Zero effort and resting on laurels.
Now I can listen full hello internet like a true 90s kid...... 1890s kid
42:14 "The Duke from Venezuela" caught me way off guard.
What? That was an april fools joke?
I've been looking for 24 days! I bought a boat.
And you will see that, in the end, all that matters are the friendships you've made along the way!
@@namewarvergeben they all died in the journey
"5% chance the emperor is a clone"
We really got the darkest timeline of star wars.
Force ghost (my understanding) is that force ghosts continue to live as a part of the force. It is not a Jedi unique technique as it was “discovered” by a Jedi but not invented by one. Also since the force is the “living” force I would assume that if nothing was left alive then the force would fade away, ghosts included.
I quite liked the point of inaccessibility. It reminded me of those Pokemon Go rumors where there were some that only appeared in impossibly difficult to reach locations. I don't even think there were such rare Pokemon spawn points. But the myth of them was fun to think about.
I also disagree with the uselessness of the Everest measurement. Yes it is perhaps redundant because of natural fluctuations in the height. But by making lots of measurements and finding out by how much it changes, we can extract real science from that.
What can we extract by knowing it's a few cm shorter than we thought?
@@regirayquaza
More precise measurements of how it's changing over time, which could help us understand the way plate techtonics move. I mean, on it's own it's probably not much use, but as a data-point in a broader sample size it can be very useful.
It's a bit like the mirrors we left on the moon, by making several measurements with them we've been able to determine that the moon is very slowly moving away from us. That, in turn, helps us to model all sorts of things, like how the moon and the Earth first formed.
Nothing is more satisfying than the way Brady says Bastard
The April fools joke is ok, under the following condition:
If some Tim makes the expedition to the actuall coordinates. You will give him the golden hotstopper.
I think he would have earned it.
How would the Tim prove that this is the actual place and not some random spot on the ocean?
@@Klblaz Google Earth
Discussion link: www.reddit.com/r/CGPGrey/comments/bgvx0v/hi_122_wax_cylinders/
Grey: Emperor clone
Everyone who is too deep in star wars lore: NOT AGAIN
Brady, thinking of what you asked about how people lived in antiquity, I suggest you check out something called the Heqanakht Papyrus, it's a note sent home by a Middle Kingdom Egyptian priest to his family. The translation feels strangely modern, since it's just him whining about the food they sent him and asking his mother to stop bothering his wife.
Hopefully this ridiculously exclusive wax cylinder HI episode was more just an excuse to document the process for an episode of Objectivity.
Brady, I'm interested in early people in just about exactly the same way. I think our analysis of earlier culture puts too much emphasis on 'particular things we can say for sure' (as it sort of has to). For instance we assume the Ancient Egyptians or Sumerians were obsessed with death because our most concrete evidence comes from tombs. But I bet that the daily life of the average Egyptian was much more nuanced and similar to ours. I am endlessly frustrated that we will never know for sure just what their lives were like because we will always overestimate the importance of the few things we do know, and try and apply these things to the lives early people lived.
An interesting thing you can look into is the history of ancient games, as this somewhat underestimated anthropological practice is one of the few that I think tries to make a study on 'how people actually were' through analysis of the games they played.
"The more I think about it, Star Wars force ghost heaven sounds like Black Mirror hell."
Grey's laugh at about 1:01:00 is priceless
Top tier Grey laugh. It's up there with his laughing at Brady's reaction to r/trypophobia
Man, that Duke from Venezuela had me stumped for way too long. Just caught on before Grey clarified.
I was slightly confused at first and then lost it when i realized he was talking about derk of veristiblium.
1:16:44 the whole banter going on at this point made me laugh too hard at work lmao. Just trying so hard to explain to Brady the utility of the pen
Brady swearing in the final minute gave me so much joy!
I have a Edison Standard Phonograph model D, but it's not working, needs a new belt, and the spring is broken, and the horn is missing. I know I can fix it but I didn't want to spent the money for the parts. You can buy a working one for $500; they are not rare, nor highly sought after. I got it when we cleared out my Great Grandmother's house, it was her father's. We also have a several old hand crank plate record players that do still work. My Great Great Grandfather loved music.
I'm waiting for episode on compact cassette.
Dammit dammit dammit! My family genuinely does own a cylinder phonograph that belonged to my grandmother - I could totally play the wax cylinder episode! But I got here two years too late! 😭
I love when Grey says "Goddammit." in a deeply frustrated tone. Funny every time.
Brady is really under estimating the demand for these cylinders
For real. Not only do many Tims like exclusive things, they often like odd/old tech. Perfect storm, lol.
What good timing, I just got bored of RUclips.
Yeah
I was texting with a friend about podcasts, where HI came up both as a talking point and a RUclips notification
Yay! Just in time for my afternoon commute.
Brady's soliloquy about Palpatine not dying was beautiful
Don't know if this has been said, but regarding force ghosts- in the _Clone Wars_ series arond season 3 there were a couple of episodes that dove deeper into force lore, from George Lucas. In the behind the scenes of that episode I believe they mentioned they originally wanted a force ghost of an old sith (Revan) to appear- however, they ultimately decided that it didn't make sense for the dark side to be able to do that.
When a Jedi (or any living being) dies, they become a part of the force- the Jedi ghosts have learned to retain their personalities after that happens. Sith and the dark side philosophy aren't particularly interested in harmony or becoming a part of anything, so force ghosts are beyond their abilities.
There might have been sith ghosts in earlier media, but even before Disney reset the canon the tier system would have made this explanation take precedence. Hopefully they don't change such a major fact of the Star Wars galaxy just to rake in some cash...
no one is ever really gone
Grey and Brady's feeling on the sequel trilogy are spot on.
Thank god it's almost over.
oh cool an HI episode. I'll listen to it in my car in like three weeks when it turns up on Google.
Has anyone tried extracting the audio from the pixels of the wax cylinder engraving video?
1:12:15 The prophet CGP Grey.
56:50 "Music is the sequence of sounds that hacks your brain into glitching into emotions" .... love it, may I print it onto a t-shirt?
After listening to _twenty-two episodes_ of Cortex in between last HI episode and this one, Brady's casual style and random topics are really throwing me off.
I'm surprised Bradey is disappointed about the black hole picture?
I have my mormor 's wax cylinder player. They aren't rare at all from what I understand. I believe my mormor had it from when she was a secretary or she got it from her mom. I'm surprised you think Tim's couldn't play it!
I wish these episodes were streamed straight to my cortex..
23:38 "I don't get too into early humans" Confirmed: Brady is not a pedophile.
Oh man, Grey, that was not a good analogy. A keyboard and mouse aren't necessarily more precise than a game controller-it's entirely context sensitive.
18 minutes ago?!?!?! Why was I not sent this video right to my brain?! C'mon! :P
To get that level of notification hitting just the bell isn't enough. Gotta click the holler horn! Edit: a typo
@@dbruik Information received! Thanks. I am not a computery person :)
To touch on the April Fool's thing, my "prank" is calling my Grandma a day early for her birthday, or buying her cake, or flowers delivered on April Fool's. Then "strongly" insisting that April Fool's is in fact her birthday, rather then the next day and her parents were just playing a long April Fool's prank on her.
Listening to sw fans, is so much fun
Was there no premier this time or did i just miss it?
There was no premiere
Older human remains can have wide-reaching implications regarding the currently accepted historical model.
1:00:50
Best thing I've heard Brady say
Okay i am just 8 min in and had to type this. I knew about wax recording because. In thr netherlands and belgium there was this tv show called 'huis anubis ' ('house of anubis') which had a mystery and in the first couple of seasons they found clues from this girl who was at that point 100 years old recordings of her when she was a girl on those wax cilenders
My grandparents do have a phonograph, so I'm likely one of the rare tims that can listen to that episode.
but, brady's emailing list didn't send me an email when they came out so I missed them.
I think Brady just pitched his own version of historical Blackadder tbh
No show notes? :(
Glitter makes the Jedi cry
You guys need to have a golden hotstoper arg
since apparently the new £5 note can play vinyl records, i'm wondering if it could work with these as well
what?
You thing younger people can’t throw their voice? Think again, I normally speak at 70 decibels and typically sing at 100 decibels. Honestly, wax cylinders and pre-1925 disc records have superior audio compared to modern recording.
Woah Brady cursed in this episode.... RIP swear free streak
At what point will Hello Internet be portrayed in a special edition single-cell animation carefully hand-painted on the wall of a cave in southern France?
If Hello Internet switched to wax only I think I would spend considerable effort trying to find a way to buy and play them
What happened to Brady not cussing
I didn't notice any cussing. What did he say? If it is mild maybe it doesn't even count as a cuss
Yeah, what did he say? "damn"? "bastard"? Are those swears?
I wouldn't consider "bastard" a swear... It's more a pejorative description. And "damn" can only be considered a swear if you're a religious grandma
@@Sikosm the way he said Dammit is definitely cussing.
@@whiteninjaplus5 Not in Australia it isn't
If you are curious about force ghosts, you should read From a Certain Point of View
"We're not talking about Game of Thrones", Immediately hears the Game of Thrones theme because an ad plays for that stupid browser game.
I have the ability to listen to one of those things...... not sure I should say that out loud or not.....
Same! My grandmother (born in the 1940’s) has one that her grandparents had. I never buy any of the HI sneakers or vinyl, but I kind of want to get one of these. Just like being able to play a modern video game on an old fashioned TV. An odd antique fashion for new tech.
Need hello internet on 8 track
is this live?
Stanley Dodds Yeah, it is live. They recorded, edited, and broadcasted it live all at the same time. Also, "premiere" is really a synonym for "live." So if you ever see something premiering its live.
@@NightDoge thanks for the info. It's incredible that they even perform it live a second time exactly when I want watch it again.
Wat is a wax cilinder
Why do I get a waxy smell while listening to this?
Hmm I just smell burnt toast
@@christiandevey3898 still more appetising than wax
1:18:50 Is this a hygiene thing Grey? :D
Is this where the live chat is?
I wonder if it could record ASMR
Ha ha... what a way to end the podcast. Well done.
Hi
Hello!
1:23:21 Did Brady just curse? D:
Next version is using voice during a live show.
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Like shaving a cheese.
Great!
Brady’s claps were better than gray’s, just saying.
New City Flag Contest!
My dad and I have been working for years to get a new City Flag for my hometown. Before it suffered from SOB (seal on a bed sheet).
duluthmn.gov/duluthflagproject
I thought I’d post it to the HI RUclips videos because I don’t do Twitter/Facebook/instagram/etc.
I cringed so hard as I let my self being spoiled the entire next Star Wars episode. But I simply can't miss my Hello Internet!
Their April Fools hatred is so one sided and no one agrees with them. So annoying.
37:47
Disney really butchered Star Wars
lol Brady pushing Christianity into Force bs. Force Ghost Siths existed in the books. In fact, the Emperor had clones he put his force ghost into :P
Frankly if you want to definitively measure Everest, just tie a string off at the bottom and trail it to the top.
Artisan hand measurements.
the prequel is better than the sequel. oh and daisy ridley is not a good actress.
UwU
👁w👁
@@yuvalsela4482 oh god what
I don't want to be critical but here I am being critical. To me it seemed like half of this 1:23:57 episode, or more accurately the podcast episode at 1:24:31 was dedicated to advertising. Even when you weren't advertising you were still talking about advertising. The only thing I can really remember from this #122 podcast is you guys sitting in a pub more or less complaining about autographing merchandise (dino attack cards). This seems like the point when people start "mailing it in" with their work. Zero effort and resting on laurels.
Almost first... :)
Brady's Idea is to make it as hard as possible to enjoy hello internet which is laudable, but also annoying.
12th lmao
Too bad not a Premiere