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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2019
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Grey & Brady discuss: the total number of gifts in the Twelve Days of Christmas, floating yodas, how Twitter works, Brexit and the worst of all worlds, RUclips deletes all annotations and as God is my witness I will never forgive this treachery, Black Mirror Bandersnatch, Christmas card corner.
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Show Notes:
*Discuss this episode on the reddit: / *
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Dinosaurs Attack!: www.bobheffner.com/dinosaursat...
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Brady's Star Wars collection was surprisingly close to hand...: / btjbxyraf_n
Hello Internet discuss First Man: • H.I. #112: Consistency...
Brexit, Briefly: • Brexit, Briefly
RUclips deletes annotations: support.google.com/youtube/an...
Federal Land Frame for Endcards: • Why Nevada Owns Less t...
Brady's end card strategy: • The Graceful Tree Prob...
Bandersnatch: www.netflix.com/gb/title/8098...
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I feel like this deck has a disproportionate amount of threes.
Grey, I beg of you. Please play The Stanley Parable!
it is pretty good, i recommend anyone reading this
It would be interesting for sure
thats a great idea :D
Pretty sure this has already come up in one of the previous podcasts though?
CGP did listen to previous episodes there was a passing comment about it
I like the smell of fresh summer rain on concrete.
It's like the dust settles and gives off a very distinctive smell.
Petrichor?
I had to look it up as I wasn't familiar with the word, so thanks, now I have a new word for my vocabulary.
However the definition described it in more of a countryside setting. I confess to being more of a city boy, and have only noticed it there.
Malcolm Convey The smell of concrete cooling down from being in the sun. Never actually realized that's a distinct smell.
Matthew Bautista: I think maybe I'm just a wee bit wierd with a sensitive nose
I only notice it after it hasn't rained for a while. It brings back memories of being a young lad at breaktime during school, come rain or shine we were outside.
Funny how smells can powerfully evoke memories!
Thank the gods, they have returned!
I think the Netflix thing was a way to make it more immersive. As in hey we're apart of this Black Mirror universe and we control this guy in our screen rather than a typical episode of Black Mirror where it would be another character controlling him. However, the lack of real choice (control) watered it down. I also think it would have been far more powerful if he was looking directly at the viewer when he shouts "Who are you!?". Then when it's explaining who you are it activates your webcam (if applicable) and brings up your Netflix profile name and icon as an overlay haha. I think the problem lies in the choose your own path - it's far too expensive and complex (as the show portrays) to make something with multiple endings. At best they could do maybe 2-3 primary paths but it would probably take up a season's worth of budget.
No joke - I watched this episode just before listening to the segment, then after hearing the bit about Grey saying interactive TV shows was a fad and there wouldn't be more than 3 on Netflix, I clicked "You vs Wild" thinking I haven't seen this Bear Grylls before. Lo and behold! Interactive Bear Grylls!!!!
You know, this morning I was bored and was thinking, "I wonder what Brady and Grey are up to. I hope Project Cyclops reveals some interesting data. Would be nice to see a new episode of HI." I get home and here it is. You guys are the best.
What i'm about to say isn't an indictment or judgement of anyone. Merely an observation. So here goes.
I think Grey's sentiment of "maybe we should just roll the dice?" in regards to brexit, is how many people felt when voting for Trump.
The only reason he's supporting the dice roll is because Brexit is already happening, he thinks may as well go all in. When people were voting for Trump, he wasn't already a forgone conclusion.
That's just the sunk cost fallacy. If Brexit was bad before, it remains bad, and you should still support it ending. There is no reason to stick with a bad decision simply because you've already made it.
The problem with "let's roll the dice" in this case is that there is literally no chance that Brexit comes out ahead. We now have the data, and even the most favorable Brexit costs the UK money albeit less than 10% GDP.
All forms of Brexit leave the UK worse off. It's not risk. It's a certainty. The only question is how bad we lose.
And I say we, because the UK having trouble will harm the global market, same as the recession in the US harmed the global market.
@@ZipplyZane Grey isn't choosing between Brexit and Non-Brexit, he's choosing between Full Brexit and Wishy-washy Brexit. He's assuming *a* Brexit will happen as that's what the population voted for.
When it comes to grass roots engaement and desire for societal change, I think that the one's voting for Trump might actually have achieved that goal. Not because of Trump's actions, but because of everyone elses reaction to the fuckwit.
I don't condone "burning everything down because you don't like the status quo" but at least you'll get a chance to rebuild something better once Trump and the worst of the GOP are cleansed away.
Assuming the US actually manages to do that. Currently I'm not convinced that the neo-nobility running the US will let "regular Americans" decide anything. The tools to supress are refined every day.
Ah. But it's still the sunk cost fallacy. It just move Brexit to the "sunk cost" spot.
You should decide what to do based on which available options will cause the least harm (or the most good, if that were available). You should not choose based on "We already committed, so do it as much as possible."
There are multiple scenarios. You can look and see that staying in the Customs union costs the least. May's deal is somewhere near the middle. And then hard Brexit is the worst possible.
There is no reason to roll the dice on the option that costs the most. Hard Brexit was bad before Brexit was decided, and it remains bad now.
You should still pick the last bad option, not the one that is most consistent with your past actions. Not doing so is a fallacy.
If Netflix only ever produces three shows like Bandersnatch, then I guess Bandersnatch is the last of them.
There were already shows like that on Netflix. Granted, I think Bandersnatch was the first one aimed at adult viewers, but they're out there.
50:59 This moment needs to be treasured.
Grey: "use promo code hellointernetad, that's "A" "D" like, the number "A" "D", for the "A" "D" dollars you're getting off"
Me: ........um.......... Oh! 80!
My favorite smell would be the smell off young spruce and fir forrests. When I was young my family grew and sold christmas trees, so every fall we would drive into the mountains to harvest our fields. The smell off the trees always remind me off those pieceful times from when I was a child.
I have synesthesia as well, but for me I translate sound into colors like grey's voice is more of a fine royal blue, and Brady's voice is more of a bright orange or light red.
I wish greys voice was grey
Yes! I was just thinking they should do a discussion on Bandersnatch yesterday. Dreams do come true!
Opening packs of pokemon cards was the best! Best smell ever!
Glad to hear Grey liked Firewatch! It's such a great experience.
1:20:00
Telltale's Minecraft is out on Netflix as an interactive TV series.
Slightly modified and simplified off course.
To play Brady in the movie I think should be Rhys Darby - Murray from Flight of the Conchords.
I loved Bandersnatch. I watched without actually knowing it was interactive, so it caught me really off guard, and It was great! I was so excited and surprised. I'm glad that they put me on a generally, linear path. It's a movie. Remeber, it is a movie, not an choose your own adventure and I took it as that. I watched it once, and that was my story. I don't get how Brady and Grey dislike it. They seem to be viewing it as a choose your own adventure, instead of an actual film as its own thing.
Jesse Plemons should play Brady in a movie.
surprised no one suggested Jared harris, the guy who played moriarty in sherlock holmes: a game of shadows
About youtube annotations: Frequently they break for me and don't show up at all. My annotations are on according to the video settings, but sometimes (not all the time) when I reach the end card of a video there's just awkward grey boxes and empty space where the annotations would be. Most end cards would be better if there was something underneath the annotations, even before the complete removal of them.
I just realized there are only 4 different playing cards in the video. Now that's all I can see.
Man its so refreshing to hear Grey swear. Its not like he IS, but his voice just gives me an impression that he is a man of culture(dont @ me) and him swearing just reminds me that "oh yeah grey doesnt have to be like thay"
Is no one going to mention the fact that Grey sounds not too far off from the hyperbolized parody version of a town counsel from Hot Fuzz concerning the golden man 😂😂😂
1:09:51 Markiplier's were pretty good. (A Date with Markiplier, A Heist with Markiplier, In Space with Markiplier.) Not every choice is the "right" choice, but every choice rewards you with something emotional or exciting or funny. (He took inspiration from the Henry Stickmin series, where the failures are more than half the fun.) And you feel at least somewhat invested in the characters (if that's your thing), whereas I didn't care about anybody in Bandersnatch. You can also see how long the videos are, which avoids Brady's complaint of constantly wondering when you're going to get to make a decision. I would say RUclips's UI makes the whole thing easier to navigate, too.
The Twelve Days of Hello Internet, by me:
On the first day of Christmas my co-host gave to me
A Golden Hotstopper
On the second day of Christmas my co-host gave to me
Two Humblebrags
And a Golden Hotstopper
On the third day of Christmas my co-host gave to me
Three Black Stumps
Two Humblebrags
And a Golden Hotstopper
On the fourth day of Christmas my co-host gave to me
Four Crashing Planes
Three Black Stumps
Two Humblebrags
And a Golden Hotstopper
On the fifth day of Christmas my co-host gave to me
Five Squarespace Ads
Four Crashing Planes
Three Black Stumps
Two Humblebrags
And a Golden Hotstopper
On the sixth day of Christmas my co-host gave to me
Six Tims A-Tweeting
Five Squarespace Ads
Four Crashing Planes
Three Black Stumps
Two Humblebrags
And a Golden Hotstopper
On the seventh day of Christmas my co-host gave to me
Seven Flags A-Flying
Six Tims A-Tweeting
Five Squarespace Ads
Four Crashing Planes
Three Black Stumps
Two Humblebrags
And a Golden Hotstopper
On the eighth day of Christmas my co-host gave to me
Eight Bees A-Buzzing
Seven Flags A-Flying
Six Tims A-Tweeting
Five Squarespace Ads
Four Crashing Planes
Three Black Stumps
Two Humblebrags
And a Golden Hotstopper
On the ninth day of Christmas my co-host gave to me
Nine Freebooters Freebooting
Eight Bees A-Buzzing
Seven Flags A-Flying
Six Tims A-Tweeting
Five Squarespace Ads
Four Crashing Planes
Three Black Stumps
Two Humblebrags
And a Golden Hotstopper
On the tenth day of Christmas my co-host gave to me
Ten Chompers Chomping
Nine Freebooters Freebooting
Eight Bees A-Buzzing
Seven Flags A-Flying
Six Tims A-Tweeting
Five Squarespace Ads
Four Crashing Planes
Three Black Stumps
Two Humblebrags
And a Golden Hotstopper
On the eleventh day of Christmas my co-host gave to me
Eleven Apollos Landing
Ten Chompers Chomping
Nine Freebooters Freebooting
Eight Bees A-Buzzing
Seven Flags A-Flying
Six Tims A-Tweeting
Five Squarespace Ads
Four Crashing Planes
Three Black Stumps
Two Humblebrags
And a Golden Hotstopper
On the twelfth day of Christmas my co-host gave to me
Twelve Podcasts Playing
Eleven Apollos Landing
Ten Chompers Chomping
Nine Freebooters Freebooting
Eight Bees A-Buzzing
Seven Flags A-Flying
Six Tims A-Tweeting
Five Squarespace Ads
Four Crashing Planes
Three Black Stumps
Two Humblebrags
And a Golden Hotstopper
Ah that good old feeling when you are walking to the train station and suddenly laugh out loud because of HI so you look like a crazy person to other people xD
never heard grey curse so much
visual novels are basically "choose your own adventure" motion comics, they seem to be pretty successful
I’ve just heard about your channel, and that you’re from Adelaide.
Do you know about Durianrider? Do you know about the Unmasking series done by the channel Norvegan?
bandersnatch, when movie ppl finally discover the basics of visual novels. FMV visual novel, even.
and like most actual game developers who want to make movies. they have no interest in the actual qualities of the medium they're utilizing.
I have thought about it before but motifwise this is basically life action DDLC
RUclips hates RUclips
The Witcher 2 had fantastic branching paths
Finally! The comment I was looking for! Not that I played The Witcher 2; I played the third installment, and boy, was it mind-blowing. SPOILERS AHEAD: I remember when I chose to liberate the spirit in the woods, and it all led to the Old Sargeant (can't remember his name) hanging himself, as her wife ended up dying (if I remember correctly). This game was the epitome of my gaming life.
this deck has a lot of jacks
It's on podcast addict but it's saying the link is broken and I can't download!
I couldn't agree more about Bandersnatch. I saw so much mention of it in various places on the internet, that I figured it must be at least somewhat good, or at least interesting or groundbreaking in some way. It was none of the above. I alternated between bored, confused, and frustrated the entire time. I don't even care to see if the other branches are any better, because as far as I'm concerned that's irrelevant.
When the main character is in the therapist office, and she asks "dont you think, if you were being controlled, you'd be doing something more exciting right now?", and the one option says "FUCK YEAH", my girlfriend and I turned to each other and agreed that if it jumped the shark we would shut it off. We selected that option, and the kid throws hot coffee in her face, and she pulls out nunchucks and they have a kung fu fight. We turned off the television.
So Netflix did an expensive version of those old Sega CD games?
Choose your own adventure as a Genre - I think the more that get made, the better writers will get at it.
It could also end up like M. Night Shyalaman movies - novel at first but diminishing results.
Missed opportunity to call this episode The Brady Amendment!
Was it really obvious with work for the company, went with work at home first time. Is there anywhere where can get statistics on % of who chose what?
Straight from inbox!!
10 of spades, 2 of clubs, Jack of diamonds, 3 of spades the end
Edit, Jack of clubs, and maybe a king of spades, saw an ace of diamonds, ace of hearts, King of spades, six of hearts
Damn.. You're right
Anyone else notice how often the three of spades appeared?
Netflix could use the tech to give people choice of commentary in a sports show.
I watched the entirety of Bandersnath without making a single decision and it was fine. It autochooses after a bit and if you screw up it goes back and autochooses the second option. There is no reason to participate and much like Brady I hated the idea of turning my passive activity in to something that was just the opposite.
HELLo Brady/Greynet
Everytime I read the word "Bandersnatch" I get a vague, uneasy feeling of something rather pornographic!
- Band of Snatch (Girls Pop Group)
- Bando Snatch (Mexican Rapist)
- Band O'Snatch (Obviously something Irish)
- Ban der Snatch (feels a little Dutch)
- Ban Do Snatch (Indonesien with feminine roots. Whatever that means.)
.... I'm giving this way too much thought.
This episode should've been called Nighthawk.
I understand the feeling of the Bandersnatch show pushing you to a certain ending by the way it forces you back over and over again, and I was pleasantly surprised when I learned that there were actual different endings than the first on I got to see credits for. And I think that making the obvious decision that makes you instantly fail does have a very important purpose. When you redo that section, the character has information that was gained through the failed run. That's really important information to give to the player/watcher.
Now the butterfly joke on that old potter puppet pals video is dead! Thanks RUclips!
There's an unreasonable amounts of Jack of Diamonds and Three of Spades in the visuals, and it's bothering me.
Hello internet episode right after a bonus? Pog
Azl?
Guys we have the answer! Christams episodes are not canon, they're not numbered! Though I'm disapointed that the football episode is cause I HATE FOOTBALL!
Patryk Wieczorek I think the 12 days of hello internet are collectively one episode
@@christiandevey3898 So you think the football one is without a number.
Everyone does.
@@moramento22 I think so, the other episodes with the "⌘X" are not numbered
@@christiandevey3898 Oh, ok thanks for that. Never noticed actually.
i questioned reality when typing in cpg and the top result was cpg gray so thanks grammar i have abandoned you this day
Black mirror wasn't the 1st choose your ending show on Netflix. They had a Puss in Boots cartoon with that format years ago. www.imdb.com/title/tt7042082/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_52
I have 360p video and no audio... thanks youtube
EDIT: Working now!
You choosing whether or not you would prefer maximum Brexit vs. losing all advantages but keeping the disadvantages reminds me of how us Americans were trying to decide between Hillary or Trump. They’re both bad, and we wished it never happened.
General vote to decide whether they should vote again maybe?
The fact that none of the cards in the video collide is really unsatisfying to me for some reason
36:40 Except the politicians haven't really been trying
I would cast an actor named Tony Goldwyn as Grey
"ex wy zed" has a slightly more awkward cadence than "ex wy zee"
Yes it does
somehow... its been a whole year and this video still doesn't have 1000 likes
What is with all the 3 of spades in this card cascade!?!
"This is episode 1-1-7, can anybody read me? - Over"
Petition for RUclips to stop trying to be like, their grandparents, TV.
Riot for RUclips to accept and support their place as a great internet presence for innate-internet users.
I agree with the roll the dice on brexit like grey, We lose if we chose the deal so fuck it take the risk its the only option
i know for a fact that instagram cracks down on people spam following. one of my classmates started a fan account about another classmate as a joke, and they wanted to get as many followers on it as possible. so they started following like everyone our age in our area and got well into the thousands before they received a notice that the account had been disabled for a week.
You're a kind of technopriest, Grey, so people holding up their phones to you; who they typically see on their phones, makes a lot of sense.
Master tim 117?
1:00:00
What the hell is M-cards?
Lol
Personally, I think the removal of annotations is a good lesson to creators that you shouldn't create videos based on the proprietary implementations of a specific platform. If the feature doesn't work in an arbitrary standalone video player, then don't put it in your video. To Brady's concern, for the vast majority of viewers you always looked like fools saying "click here" or "press there" because most people already had annotations disabled. Lastly, perhaps I'm just used to update cycles, but as soon as google removed the ability to create new annotations I thought the message was crystal clear that the feature had been deprecated and would be removed eventually.
By that logic, videos should not rely on great visuals because they won't translate well if they have to be converted to books. No, it was a feature provided by RUclips and people were cleverly implementing them. Before RUclips shat on them there was no indication they wouldn't be here forever so of course people used them. We shouldn't have to write our content assuming that RUclips will remove features.
@@kadabraguy9846 There are a lot of things people "shouldn't have" to do, but that's life. If you think that RUclips, much less a single feature they offer will be available forever, then you're being naive. Nothing lasts forever, either literally or figuratively, especially where technology and the internet are concerned.
Also, your analogy sucks. What I said would more accurately translate to "don't write your books to rely on features that are only supported by a single chain of book stores or libraries".
A robot benedict cumberbatch and a caveman jared harris
The lighting for these cards makes absolutely no sense
Isn't that an actor?
Fucking undertale is a great choose your own adventure!
What was that Intro? I’m uncomfortable
I do not know.
I only follow 255 people, no more, no less.
When grey said an economist showed up at his doorstep, I definitely thought a professional economist was going door to door spreading the gospel of Brexit
Please check out The Stanley Parable!
6:49 I don't understand what "joke" Grey and Brady think there is to be "in on" here. Where's the joke in assuming the song means what it says, instead of just _making things up_ and then insisting that the thing you've _made up_ is what the song really means? "On the [X] day of Christmas, my true love gave to me: [list of things they gave]." By any reasonable interpretation, the list is what their true love gave them _on that day._ You can _say_ that the words mean something else, but you would be making things up. Authorial intent is all fine and good, but we don't know the author's intent, we just know what the song _actually says,_ and what the song _actually says_ plainly indicates that the gifts repeat. (Besides, thinking about authorial intent means having the wisdom to realize that if the song _wasn't_ meant to imply repeating gifts, the author probably wouldn't have chosen to write it in a way that so clearly implies repeating gifts!)
On Brexit, it's not quite that simple: In a general election they said they'd have a referendum, and they won a majority, then the parliament overwhelmingly voted to allow the referendum, then they all said it wouldn't be rerun even if the result was close, then the referendum happened, then in the following general election the only party suggesting a rerun only got 7.4% of the vote share.
A referendum has never been rerun in the UK with the same question, and they're a rare thing, with us only ever having 3 national referendums in the existence of the UK. In the EU, however, referendums have been rerun - in some cases being rerun multiple times until the people give the "right answer" - that's why rerunning it would be seen as a complete betrayal and totally undemocratic by so many people.
This is especially the case seeing as lots of the arguments for rerunning it feel like strawman arguments - with nobody refuting the idea that people (the European Commission) who are not directly elected, who are practically unaccountable to the people, are creating laws. The only power that the people directly voted for (MEPs) have is to block things that come from the commission - they can't get the ball rolling on new changes - so if we want something that is bad changed then it's in the hands of the commission.
Finally, I think we'd need approval to extend article 50 in order to run a referendum, and that my have to be until after the European elections, which the EU has said will never happen, as we'd have to take part in those elections.
Why would anyone comment here?
They don't read these. They read the reddit
Reddit is the place for Brady and Grey to see your comments.
RUclips is the place for everyone else to see your comments.
@@liborkundrat185 for only brady*
I suppose, Hasidu. I don't really know myself.
I normally don't care what the topic is but brady, please move on from the 12 days
The reason people say that a re-vote would be "undemocratic" is because we all *know* that if the vote went the other way their would be no second referendum. The de facto implication is "vote this way and we will probably make you vote again" or "vote this way and it's set in stone". Doesn't help when you look up the history of EU-related voting.
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@@alanbockelman It's not like they get ad revenue from people listening to them. They get ad revenue when people use the links to sign up. There's no point in listening to the ad if you're not going to sign up.
Chan R it costs you money to listen to 2 minutes? Also does skipping around in a video effect watch time?
@@komencanto no, that's not the point. Adblockers are a passive action that gets rid of ads, and skipping past them is an active action, and thus not good.
Chan R way to deflect... I asked if it cost you money... it’s a logical argument against what you said.
Hate the falling card video
It wasn't an Adventure! My whole problem with it was that you didn't get to choose to go into a dungeon, or fight sharks. It's choose your stupid stupid music
FACE SPOILERS FACE SPOILER DISCUSSION
NO
TURN BACK
so why would michael shannon play cgp grey
when
when
when
extra whens to force a 'read more' so no spoilers
when
CGP GREY LOOKS LIKE TOM HANKS
GET TOM HANKS OBVIOUSLY
COME ON
You guys are isolated in a political bubble, as am I. Read about how EU works and how it is represented.
oh cool is this another episode of HI I can't listen to because its not on my podcasting app of choice? Nice. Catch you all in a month when they finally put it on Google.
That sounds like a problem with your podcasting app. A podcast is just an RSS feed, and once you have the URL, your podcasting app should just check the feed (on the HelloInternet website).
Either you don't have the right RSS feed, or your app isn't checking it often enough. Or you're using something that actually isn't a podcasting app. (In that case, download a proper podcasting app, or listen from the official site or here on RUclips.)
Do you hate choices? Well oh boy are you in luck! Let this website chose and store your passwords, let this website choose your food for you, let this other website choose what you watch too. No more scary choice!!
As a non-Brit European, I still think that brexit should be delayed indefinitely. Which is possible in article 50 if both sides agree. Brexit is bad for all of the EU (including the UK) so why would we do it?
"Rolling the dice" is exactly why I voted for Donald Trump. I figured, maybe he does good, maybe he does bad - but he will certainly shake things up and make people think about government in a new way. It's exposed some really interesting aspects of the government and how much or little members are fulfilling their roles.
@Audio Indie In a word, no.
When you roll dice you are implicitly accepting the consequences of a bad roll and therefore preferring it to whatever alternative. That said, I do not lament my vote and would indeed vote the same way, and will vote for him again unless he is responsible for something terrible (e.g., betraying the democracy, or crashing the economy.) He has done fewer things that I disagree with than I expected but also fewer things that I hoped he would.
Insofar as has been possible he has done his best to do those things he said he would and I respect that. I approve, even if only softly, of most of this views. He has exposed how vial and self serving the government truly is, and how utterly parasitic traditional news is - both loyal to money beyond anything else (which isn't to suggest it's particularly surprising.) and I think that's one of the most positive impacts he's had. I disapprove of Clinton very fundamentally and have before Trump was on the scene, thus partly I was voting against the wrong lizard.
And finally, I believe that local governments are best suited to their population and in that regard he was the better choice. Sates are capable of cooporation, and there is monumental power in being able to parallelize programs and laws; I support deregulations, reduction of federal reach, and turning away from political globalism (I support social globalism for the most part.) I believe that sovereign territory has a right and duty to protect itself (both from military invasion as well as more abstract things such as dumping resources into protecting and supporting illegal aliens even despite empathetic feelings towards many of them.) This extends to the EU. There is nothing the EU does that could not be done without it. Again, states are capable of cooporation (compare the EU to the UN,) and the EU, like any other sufficiently abstracted governing body, is plagued with subterfuge, and it's largely undemocratic.
For what it's worth, I classify as centrist leaning liberal/libertarian, but I don't identify with any particular ideology, preferring to examine things individually.
tl;dr It's not so much that I believed in his campaign promises and more that I was okay with it. For better or for worse he certainly shook things up, although it's impossible to assess that while it's happening so we'll have to wait to reflect on his legacy.
Please can we be called PHILs and not Tims?
Podcast:
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Bandersnatch without the meta commentary would be nonsense and just awful.
I really wish to see a hard brexit, or else its tyranical rule from europe with no say from you guys. Sargon of Akkad has a great political channel about brexit and other stuff.
> Sargon
> great political channel
Thanks for the laugh