Dave, your explanation of aspect ratios has simplified something I've been baffled by until now. How do you calculate the ratios between rings that are different sizes in the same weave?
Great question. Well.. you need a starting point obviously. Either a piece you've seen or an experiment you've made. The all important thing is to keep the same AR, as long as you do that, your chain will look the same regardless of material or size. For example I also make these byzantine bracelets with a larger Mobius link in them as the connectors. very nice. So in this case my chain links are AR 3.3 and my larger mobius links are AR 6.25 So in order to replicate this bracelet in any other material I just have to stick to these ratios. I use 1.2mm wire, but lets say I wanted to make it bigger and use 1.5 mm wire... how big would it be? what mandrels would i need? simple... The chain links would be 1.5mm wire x 3.3AR = 4.95 (5mm inside diameter ie mandrel required) and hence the chain would be 6.3mm outside diameter ( imagine looking across a ring 1.5 wire + 5 mandrel +1.5 wire ) Likewise the larger mobius rings would be 1.5 wire x 6.25 AR = 9.375 (say 9.5mm mandrel) and the larger links would be 12 mm outside diameter (1.5 + 9.5 +1.5= 12.5 mm). So just grab my 5mm and 9.5 mm mandrels with my 1.5 wire and the chain will look exactly the same, just bigger. Remember that you can always work the calculation backwards. to get the number you require. Inner diameter / wire diameter =AR Wire diameter X AR = Inner diameter (the mandrel size required) Wire diameter + mandrel Diameter + Wire diameter = outside diameter (width of final bracelet). Outer diameter - Wire diameter - wire diameter = Inner diameter. So just flip it round to get whatever number you want to know. Someone comes to you and says they want a nice heavy byzantine bracelet, about 1cm wide. What do you do ? what wire do you need? what size? well you know that the ideal AR for a nice byzantine is 3.5 and you need an outside diameter of 10mm So that's our starting point. I have spreadsheets with all wires and ARs on. but without that we need to make a guess a starting point. So lats say 2mm wire. So... 2mm X 3.5 AR = 7mm mandrel (7+2+2) = 11mm Outside diameter. So if the customer is happy with 11mm then that's fine. If he definitely insists that its 1cm then lets go with a slightly smaller wire. say 1.9 mm.... 1.9mm X 3.5 AR = 6.65 mm Mandrel 1.9 + 6.65 + 1.9 = 10.45mm Outside diameter, Unless he's using a micrometer to measure the chain I'm sure less than half a mm over will be fine. Failing that, work out 1.8mm or 1.7mm wire. the point is, all the chains will look the same just different scale. As you reduce the the wire you reduce the mandrel and vice versa, hence the AR always remains the same, and the chain looks identical and in proportion. Hope this all makes sense. I can look at a picture on the web, print it out (size doesn't matter) and measure the rings. then work out the aspect ratio. I can then replicate that chain in any size I want. Very powerful once you've got it. Dave
Thank you Dave for a great explanation on the calculations and a great tutorial on this chain, I have made one with cheap jump rings first and mastered this one👍
I cannot begin to tell you how blessed I am this day. I have found all that I have lost, and now I have met you, to learn how to do something I've wanted to do since high school. I'm 64 years old now. Thank you, you have just earned a new subscriber, because of many things,1. You are a great teacher. 2. Your voice is very calming and relaxing. 3. I truly enjoyed watching you make something so beautiful.
Thank you for those kind words. You're never too old to learn, and it is really simple once you get going. You CAN do this. If you get stuck, just ask. Go for it ! Dave
A recent interest in chain maile patterns and jewelry has led me to watch and save a ot of videos by several different artist. Dave, you are the first and only maker to date that has mentioned aspect raio. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks for saying that. its a very important point that most people don't mention or explain. hence why I made this video. Appreciated. Thanks for watching. Dave
Thank you. In England my northern accent is considered very working class, not at all posh. But it certainly seems that Americans do like the British accent. Dave
Very good tutorial. Clear explanation, not too slow, not too fast, or monotone, clear image, and birds in the background, sounds like a robin, I think. Thank you.
Dave I greatly enjoyed this video because of the clear explanations, the excellent video work, the qualities of your voice and your friendly easy going nature . I wound jump rings and sat in front of the telly and made a not too shabby copper bracelet, having never done chain mail before. Two big thumbs up mate.
Thanks for the lovely comments. Thats exactly why I do this. Now you too can have the joy and satisfaction of making your own beautiful chains. I am happy to have inspired you. Thanks for watching. Dave
Thank you SO much Dave! I have no problem with complicated wire wrapped pieces… but Chainmaile has always eluded me! You were able to explain this slowly & perfectly! The hardest is getting the aspect ratio correct! ❤
just made a braclet tonight, took about 30 mins. looks amazing, i love it. made it with 14 guage steel wire with a 6mm inner dia. hole though, so the rings are a little loose. gonna but a 4mm steel rod and do another one. amazing tutorial, very easy to follow and understand, had some difficulty with the first inch, but once oi got into the swing of it i whizzed through it. also gonna need some smooth pilers, its a little scratched and the ends are a bit nipped, but i also have a small Rotary drill and saw on order. cant wait, already got orders from friends for some.
Great to hear. Difficult to explain, but as I say, easy when you know how. To tighten up the chain, either use slightly thicker wire, or a smaller mandrel. You mention a rotary drill and small saw. You must avoid those thin circular saw blades, uncovered in a Dremel - it's a lethal combination. I almost lost the end of my finger doing that. Best to saw them by hand with a jewellers saw. But steel wire is going to be tough to cut whatever you use. Enjoy. Dave.
@No-Ones Home... Wow, you did very well very quickly! 👍 I used 20 ga wire on a 6mm screwdriver/mandrel so mine was loose and somewhat difficult to thread rings to make the "V". Did you ever make a tighter one and, if so, was it easier than your 1st bracelet? Thanks for any input. Have a blessed day!
@@tammygurl64 i tried using a 2mm wire on a 5.5mm mandrel. Its quite tight... So much so, that some of the rings end up getting pulled apart (i used a dremel cuttingdisc, which takes quite a lot of the ring diameter if you Arent carefull.
After months, I finally found it. A tutorial video that easily demonstrates the byzantine chain!!! I have always wanted to add this design to my jewelry making, but every video I have found just didn't click. This one did. Dave, you are a genius! Simple instructions, excellent camera angles, and a cheerful attitude. This combination works. As you stated, once you get the first knot, it's simply rinse and repeat. Now I'm browsing chainmail jump ring suppliers!!
Great tutorial dave! I may be a little late coming to the table here, but your explaination is by far the best I've seen and creating an understanding of Aspect Ratio is such a valuable tool for all of us beginners! Thank you for your time and patience, you do beautiful work!
Thanks for the kind words Kelly. too many people make videos and don't show the whole process (such as adding clasps) talking about the aspect ratio, or how to make the rings. This is a very popular pattern that many people want to learn , so i thought it was important to cover everything you need to know from start to finish. Do checkout my Persian videos too. thanks for watching. Dave
gosh thank you ever so much....I was getting really frustrated trying to make a pair of earrings and this is the best tutorial I have here seen, as someone said very generous of you to share this immense knowledge...thanks Dave
If you're making earrings, its a good idea to have something heavy on the bottom to pull down and keep the flipped links in place. Difficult to explain, but if you make a pair you will see what i mean. Dave
Thanks Dave for your patient and direct instruction. No longer baffled yet perhaps appreciate even more, (after 'seeing how the sausage is made'), this elegant, timeless pattern.
Thought I'd have to be a Master Jeweler before being able to make something like this. It certainly looks impressive enough to scare off beginners, that's for sure. Lol. But your instructions were clear and have given me hope. :) Thank you! Also...subscribed!
Do have a go. Its quite easy once you get going, you can do it sat on the sofa watching TV. Rather like knitting. Just remember the aspect ratio. The inside diameter needs to be 3.5 to 4 times the diameter of the wire. Follow that rule and all will be well. good luck,. Dave
12:30 - Thank you! I recently bought 4 Byzantine bracelets from 3 vendors and EACH ONE had out of phase ends with an even number of jump rings. This led to having to twist the bracelet just to try and close it. One became easier to close when I shortened it by removing one link. The pair I bought from the same vendor, one bracelet was too short and one was too long. I took a link off of the long one and it ended up perfect. Then when I added that link to the short one, they became twins! It was a blessing in disguise though. I already had a work station that I use for console/electronics repair (including microscope). So I'm already used to working on small things with my hands. And with the repair work I had to do, it got my foot in the door for jewelry repair/crafting! So +1 sub here. Thank you for this video. Especially thank you for telling folks to make sure their chain ends are in sync!
I want to thank you for doing such a great job teaching. I love making this pattern. I just made a 22 inch necklace for my son in law. He is very involved in the renaissance fairs and it turned out nice. My next project is a ss bracelet for my grandson. Going to try more of your projects later.
Great video tutorial! I used this video to make a byzantine necklace from copper rings I wound myself, but my AR was a bit off and left me with a loose weave. To correct this I added one additional link between knots so instead of a 2-2-2 pattern like you did, I utilized a 3-2-2 and it filled in the gaps beautifully. I know its not technically correct, but it turned out well.
That's perfectly fine, some people set out to make a tipple or even quadruple byzantine where there are 3 or four connecting rings. So I guess you stumbled across that by accident. Hence the importance of the aspect ratio, as that defines how compact the wave will be. as you see it is very important. next time, use smaller rings or thicker wire, to reduce the AR. Thanks for watching. Dave.
The only tutorial I’ve found that details and describes the process easily and with the video in focus, also i was able to flick the method around for my left handed self
What a lovely thing to say. Thank you. I actually, have been a college lecturer for 20 years, with four teaching quals, PGCE and Masters in education. So a comment such as yours is great compliment indeed. I thank you for watching and for taking the time to write such a lovely comment. Thanks. Dave
Thank you so much David. After watching i made a beautiful piece in about two hours and because of You i will continue with Chain Mail for sure. It´s a wonderful quick to understand tech and give great results very quick. Love your accent too. Cheers mate !
This is really one of the nicest weaves to do. I just love it when people suddenly get it when you show them how it is done. A very well made video, thanks for placing it.
Thank you for your amazing tutorial, Dave. Very clear with all the information i needed. Great time saving and effort saving tips too (which some are reluctant to tell others i know). I have made an 8 inch sterling silver byzantine pattern bracelet tonight. I taped up my pliers with masking tape to minimise damage. Took me about 4 hours using 1.5mm thick 8mm diameter rings (AR3.4), giving a nice chunky boxy bracelet at the first attempt! My girlfriend is going to be very surprised ~ i have taken photos to prove i made it too! Thanks again!
Have to say thankyou for your time. Never tried anything like this before. I used scraps of craft wire and a 4 mm mandrel (crochet hook!) must say im pretty chuffed with the result for a 1st attempt. Thankyou again 👍😎
Thanks for the lovely compliment, But I'm not Irish in any way. I come from Lancashire, North west England. And definatley have a Lancashire accent. Thanks for watching. Dave
I made my first bracelet from your tutorial. I am so excited. I need to make a clasp for it (gotta learn that) thank you so much...I appreciate it....I can’t wait to see what you make next ❤️
Hi Barbara, Thanks for that. It's so lovely to hear that I have inspired you. Enjoy your new skills! You can of course always buy a lobster clasp, Albert swivel, or if you can find them "large "bolt rings look cool. Dave
Hi Dave, from Georgia, USA. This tutorial is 5-STAR EXCELLENCE! 👍 😃 I first saw this and commented from my other account 4 or 5 years ago after I first started making jewelry. I've read and watched other instructions but yours is still the ABSOLUTE BEST!!👍🙂 Your mentioning starting with a simple "2-2-2" structure stuck in my brain even when I couldn't remember the rest. I wasn't sure I'd ever make a Byzantine bracelet but I was so inspired by your tutorial that I started studying chainmaille and re-familiarizing myself with Aspect Ratio calculations (BTW, your A.R. spreadsheet is AWESOME!). FINALLY, after the years past, I am now successfully in the process of making my first Byzantine bracelet and a few other things. I twisted silver and yellow gold plated wire to make 18 gauge jump rings and I think it's going to look pretty good. Thanks so much for the bracelet lesson and the refresher math lesson was an added bonus. LOL! Cheers!😊
Wow, what lovely message. Great to hear that I have inspired you and that you are enjoying your new skills. When I started - before the days of youtube, it was very hard to find information. So I have always tried to share my knowledge and help others to enjoy making jewellery. Thanks for the lovely words. Enjoy ! Dave
Please don't ever remove this video! 😊 You explain it all so well that I finally came back and decided to try this. I don't have a proper mandrel for the abundant supply of 20 ga copper wire on hand so I used a screwdriver (=6mm) instead and Xuron precision flush cutters to make enough jump rings to get to the 2nd "V". It amazes me that something can be so easy and so difficult (hand cramps) simultaneously. LOL! Mentally, I get it now, it makes sense, but I'm struggling physically. I'm fairly certain my aspect ratio is NOT correct but I was wondering if having it tighter using smaller rings makes it easier? Or do I really need thicker wire if I get serious about it? Thanks again for the inspiration and awesome tutorial! 🙂
Well thank "you|" for the lovely comments. This is why I make these videos. To help and to inspire others like yourself. So thanks for the comments, it makes all the hard work worthwhile. Byzantine looks best with a ratio of 3.5, so ensure the mandrel is 3.5 times the diameter of the wire. If you're using flush cutters to cut the rings, are you aware of the flip move with the cutters? its way of getting perfectly flush rings. See the video link below. Dave ruclips.net/video/WlDZlfmjFDs/видео.html
Your videos are brilliant. I have watched hundreds of hours of different tutorials and yours are so clear, informative and beautifully filmed. Thank you so much!
Thank you SO MUCH for this video!! I love byzantine links and always wanted to know how to make them. So sick of the wraps! This, in my mind, is REAL jewelry. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!
So nice to meet you Dave 🤗 This is a great tutorial and I thank you for sharing your wonderful talents with all of us!! Your explanation on the AR ratio was well explained. I wish I had the extra funds to invest in my own jump ring maker and tools so I will make sure the jump rings I do buy will be the right size and good material for the wire. I have watched other tutorials and everyone (altho the same pattern) has a different variation of doing it. YOURS by far WAS THE BEST!!!! Can’t wait to get started!! You have inspired this little Italian Lady here in Idaho in the USA 😊 I am a beader by trade but the wire work keeps calling my name....”C’mon Susie - you can do it”!! Thank you again. And I’m so looking forward to learning your 6 in 1 as well. Take care Dave and thanks again 😘
Well comments like this are the reason I do it. It's so nice to think that I have inspired people to have a go. That's the point, and hopefully you'll get as much pleasure out of it as I do. One thing to note in my method is that it's much faster as I pre close a third of the rings and attach them in pairs, so a much faster method. If you make one, send me a pic on Facebook. Thanks for watching. Dave facebook.com/Celticdreams.co.uk/
I agree with you Susan! I have watched quiet a few of these tutorials now just to get a feel for this amazing craft and so far this video is my favorite!
I watched this video and then ordered my supplies.... And totally threw all that advice about size out the window lol now here I am a first timer with 4mm 16g rings trying to make this chain.... I can do it..... Maybe lol I'm three repeats in and only 20 minutes have passed haha
The aspect ratio is the all important secret. That's the recipe for every chain mail project. A ratio of less than 3.5 and you won't make it, more than 4 and it wont look good. Good luck. Dave
Byzantine is my favorite pattern. I've always wanted a delicate gold byzantine chain. Not sure I'll ever get or make one as it's pretty tight, but wow you do very very good instruction, no doubts about how its done under your tutelage. Thank you!!!
Byzantine eats wire, and so anything in gold is going to quickly get expensive. But perhaps start with a bracelet, then when funds permit, make another. You can then join them to make a chain. then extend as you wish. As you see, its very easy to do - you can do it. Dave
thanks for the video! I work as an electrician and have access to oodles of scrap aluminum wire. Its not as sturdy as some other stuff but it works well for me. I have been looking for a "how to" on making wire jewelry and I think yours is best so far. Thanks again
The copper wire used for the demo here was stripped from electrical twin and earth. It's nice thick pure copper wire and pretty annealed and flexible. perfect..and cheap!. If you've got wire, then make chainmail. if you have lots of it, then it may be worth sticking some coils on eBay as people will buy it for chain mail. Dave.
Many thanks from a doddery UK OAP never done anything like this before but watching the vid a few times :-) with some scrap copper wire, wound around a drill stem and cut with a jewelers saw to give an aspect ratio of 3.75 Wow! Very Pleased with the result. I can keep the mind active and the fingers nimble, and the Grandkids in presents. Subscribed and Thumbs up
Great story, thanks so much for sharing it. That's precisely the reason why I made this video, to inspire people to have go. Perhaps have a go with some silver (link below). Thanks for watching. Dave www.cooksongold.com/
Thanks for the reply, at the moment I'm finding it much easier to build it one ring at a time, the step of adding two closed to one open then adding that no problem but then threading the next ring through four rings, the fingers act like Bananas ! I bet you can do it in the dark behind your back ;-)
You do get used to it. I'd say it's also important to get good pliers (I use Tronex) and good vision. I cant work without my Optivisor. Dave ruclips.net/video/y-P4L2rjKHg/видео.html
Celtic Dreams/Dave, Thanks so VERY MUCH for your Byzantine Chain Mail video!!! You are extremely generous with sharing your knowledge; ensuring that everyone would have success following your video. Your explanations are the best I have heard... FAR better than the tutorial I bought!!! My biggest challenge was picking out the right mandrel/wire size and you have cleared that up for me. I look forward to seeing your other videos. Thank you - Thank you - Thank you!!!
Thank you Diana, for you lovely words. It's nice to be appreciated. I do plan on more chain mail videos in response to many requests. In the meantime, perhaps check out my Full persian and persian cross videos. Thanks Dave. ruclips.net/video/pRGS0inVxVY/видео.html
Dear Dave What a daimond you are for sharing method and inspiration! This is by far the best (set of) tutorial(s) I have come across. I used it to create my second real piece of jewelery and it came out great!! With just a few hours used all told. (all things considered. Working with old and cheap pliers, less than stellar jumprings because i used a dremel, probably wrongly, and a probably wrong leaf saw with no jig to hold the rings.. No real practice ad using 1.9mm electrical wire to practice with. 🤣)
Me gusto el video por fin alguien esplica con argollas mas grande . Asi se puede visualisar mejor . Por que con argollas pequeñas no se ve bien por que los mismos dedos tapan el video gracias muchas gracias me gusto el video . Aga otro video con argollas grandes . Le quedo bonita.
Thank you, but not Irish at all. Northern English, very distinct. see the link for an explanation of where I am. Thanks for watching. Dave ruclips.net/video/B8nF4vREGP8/видео.html
I reply to every single one. (1,324) If you have taken the time to write a comment or message to me, then the least i can do is to acknowledge you and try try to answer you question. note all the others. Thanks for commenting. Dave.
I wanted to try this but it seemed too complicated, but after watching your very clear demonstration, it has finally clicked. Great tutorial, I will definitely be watching more! Thank you.
Yes, the byzantine looks very scary, but it's actually very easy to make, and surprisingly fast once you've got the rings. Do have a go, you can do it ! Dave
Thanks Dave for the video. I have been making the persian weave chains and am now going to be making the byzantine type too. I have been using brass wire and 17 ga electric fence wire to practice. Thanks again.
I use a Pepe jump ring making machine as shown, to make my jump rings. But if you want the cheaper option of cutting them by hand with a "jewellers piercing saw". Then check out any jewellery supplier. the important thing is to use fine blades. Ideally you want at least three teeth across the thickness of the wire yo are cutting. for 18 ga wire use a number 1 blade, 16 ga maybe up to a number 4 blade (bigger). You can use finer blades but you''l break them. Check out Rio grande or gesswein links below. Dave. www.riogrande.com/Product/German-4-Saw-Frame-and-Saw-Blade-Kit/110112 www.gesswein.com/p-2300-swiss-saw-frames.aspx www.gesswein.com/p-2293-herkules-white-label-saw-blades-dozens.aspx
Thank you for the aspect ratio explanation. Wish I watched this two days ago. I learned by mistakes and fluttering. Thought i was so stupid because i did it finally, but ignorance about aspect ratio made me sad. Thanks again.
Its so important but never mentioned or explained. Hence why so many people struggle. Lots more info on my Pepetools blog below. Enjoy. Dave pepetools.com/blogs/news/aspect-ratio-the-magic-number-for-making-perfect-jump-rings-and-chains
Greetings Master, great respect for you, really your videos are excellent as the quality of your art please friend, I need your help in an information that only you can give me accurate and without error because you are the master I am ignorant in this matter, and for that I apologize for my understandable way of explaining, but I'm sure you can understand perfectly what I want to know, I want to make a necklace for me with the appearance of that beautiful bracelet that you have with the name Aspect Ratio then I want to buy the correct stainless steel rings to make an equal chain, My question and my request is: Can you please tell me in centimeters and millimeters what is the measurement and the measurements of the rings that I must buy and use exactly for different thicknesses of chain? I really like that tight appearance, the other with a lot of space between rings does not like much, for that reason I would like to know what are the exact measurements of the rings that I need for each different thickness in each project that I do based always on the Aspect Ratio, and so you can buy them exactly as I need them without risk of making a mistake buying the wrong size thank you very much master, a lot of respect for you my friend
The chain is not called aspect ratio, the chain is called byzantine. Aspect ratio is the mathematical calculation used. To make a silver bracelet like mine. I use 1.2mm silver wire, wound on a 4mm bar This gives an aspect ratio of 3.3 which is the inside diameter 4 divided by the wire 1.2 4/1/2=3.3 Watch the beginning of the video again and hopefully you will understand what the aspect ratio means. Dave
thank you very much for your answer friend, I do not speak English, it is for that reason that I could not understand clearly, the explanation of the video, and for that reason I wanted to write to ask you my question, I appreciate very much that you have answered me, I wish you much success, thank you!
People often ask me where to buy tools. But no one ever says where they are. So I don't know what country you are in. But Pepe's site below will give you a list of dealers. Dave. pepetools.com/dealer-locator
Thank you so much for taking the time to make such a clear and easy to follow tutorial Dave! I've buggered about trying to make Borobudur/Byzantine style chain a few times and given up in frustration lol.. all I needed was a decent step-by-step guide. I know it's very tricky to capture focused high definition close-up video so this is very much appreciated. Great job!!
thanks for your concern Dave. NOT using thin saw blade they can catch and get thrown up. Using 0.75 abrasive cutting discs. have to use power tools to cut the rings because stainless steel had a much higher tensile strength of gold or silver, to give you an idea bending the 1mm wire around a 4mm allen key the centre diametre of the jump ring are 5mm but thanks to you I found chain making KIITOS (thank you)
Do be aware thought that using such an abrasive disc will leave a small gap in the ring (0.75mm). So when closed, the final jump ring will be slightly smaller. Probably not a great issue, but be aware when using tight ratios, as that small amount could make a difference. Thanks for watching. Dave
l loved the way you explain and show how to do this l have watched a few on this but yours is the best thank you so much for sharing your talent. l made myself two bracelets and am now making a necklace
A lovely clear, well explained tutorial. You've made it look easy (though I'm sure it isn't when you first start). I don't need another hobby but I think I may well have one.
Hi Annette, Do have a go. The byzantine is probably one of the easiest chains to make. Hence why it's also called the "idiots delight". Anyone can do it very easily. Dave
Wonderful! Once you've got, you are away. There are so many variations, different colours, textures, adding longer links. etc ect Youll never get bored with it. Enjoy your new skills. Dave.
Hi! I have watched many video tutorials about this type of bracelet, but only your explanation makes me wish to make one for my husband. Thanks for calm and very useful way of teaching! Wishing u the best of luck!!! Greetings from Jordan!
Thank you so much Dave from Florida in the USA. Your video and passion for teaching has given me the greatest joy. I am not able to walk so everything I do is from a chair. I mostly do beading designs and I must say I am pretty good at it!🤓. I started wire wrapping a couple of months ago and last week came across this link with the lovely birds chirping in the background. I mastered the technique minutes after my jump rings arrived in the mail and hope I can make a little extra income from the bracelets to save and buy my own jump ring maker someday. I will continue to watch and learn from your videos. It’s important you know how one small act of kindness and sharing of your talent has brought me and many others so much happiness. Someday I will make and sell jewelry too. Blessings to you and your family. Keep the magic going. We are out here listening. All the Best Tahra Richardson
Wow. what a lovely message. Thank you for taking the time to send this. You may note that I do not have adverts all over my videos. I don't make money from doing this, I just just love to share my knowledge and passion with others. Genuine comments like this are worth much more than any gold. Thank you. Dave
Very helpful advice! I was making this pattern for the first time last night, and it was hard to keep from getting lost, making a mistake, and having to go back and re-do a section or two. Your 2+2+2 advice is great... I plan to use that method next time! I also didn't know about the aspect ratio. That explains why my chains are too loose.
Thanks for the video! I cannot wait to give this a try tomorrow. Simple to understand you in this video. It is obvious that you are a master at this craft.
Thanks. I hope you have a go. its quite simple one you get it. Just make sure you get the right size rings and away you go!. Thanks for watching. Dave.
This video popped up in my recommendations and it was such a great video I had to immediately go down to the local craft store and pick up some materials. Some pre-made jump rings and a couple pair of jewelry pliers and I got enough to make about 6 bracelets for about $15 US. After a couple false starts it was just as easy as it was presented. Thanks for the great video. I'll have to try more expensive metals in the near future.
thank you for sharing your knowledge ,i now finally understand the process ,there are so many of these videos on youtube but i find that yours is very clear on the steps involve. thanks again and i cant wait to try this .
Those little pliers are my No.1 tool. The little flat / round pliers are "beadsmith PL528" . I've had them for years and they still look like new, so tough. They have box joints so will last for indefinitely. The crazy thing is they only cost about £5. I don't know where you are but ill put a few links below. Dave. www.thecrystalphoenix.com/beadsmith-flatround-nose-pliers-173-p.asp www.ebay.com/itm/PL528-4-1-2-Flat-Round-Plier-for-Wire-Wrapping-BEADSMITH-PRO-Tools-/350584134023
Celtic Dreams I am new to this and finally ordered some rings. It would be easier if they would put the AR, ID, OD, and wire diameter in the catalogs and on the packaging. I’m still not sure I ordered the best sizes. Your instructions are amazing!!! I tried other tutorials first and could not understand what they were doing. Please continue tutorials as you are the best. Thank you soooo much!!!
Thank you Dave! This is an awesome video as I was able to see exactly how to make this pattern and reproduce it. The cherry on the top was showing us how to make the clasp. Very nice!
I find it so annoying that many people never show how to finish it. Hence why I wanted to show everything from start to finish. and explain all the theory. A long video perhaps- but hopefully well explained. Thanks for watching. Dave
Dave, your explanation of aspect ratios has simplified something I've been baffled by until now. How do you calculate the ratios between rings that are different sizes in the same weave?
Great question. Well.. you need a starting point obviously. Either a piece you've seen or an experiment you've made. The all important thing is to keep the same AR, as long as you do that, your chain will look the same regardless of material or size. For example I also make these byzantine bracelets with a larger Mobius link in them as the connectors. very nice. So in this case my chain links are AR 3.3 and my larger mobius links are AR 6.25 So in order to replicate this bracelet in any other material I just have to stick to these ratios. I use 1.2mm wire, but lets say I wanted to make it bigger and use 1.5 mm wire... how big would it be? what mandrels would i need? simple...
The chain links would be 1.5mm wire x 3.3AR = 4.95 (5mm inside diameter ie mandrel required) and hence the chain would be 6.3mm outside diameter ( imagine looking across a ring 1.5 wire + 5 mandrel +1.5 wire )
Likewise the larger mobius rings would be 1.5 wire x 6.25 AR = 9.375 (say 9.5mm mandrel) and the larger links would be 12 mm outside diameter (1.5 + 9.5 +1.5= 12.5 mm).
So just grab my 5mm and 9.5 mm mandrels with my 1.5 wire and the chain will look exactly the same, just bigger. Remember that you can always work the calculation backwards. to get the number you require.
Inner diameter / wire diameter =AR
Wire diameter X AR = Inner diameter (the mandrel size required)
Wire diameter + mandrel Diameter + Wire diameter = outside diameter (width of final bracelet).
Outer diameter - Wire diameter - wire diameter = Inner diameter.
So just flip it round to get whatever number you want to know.
Someone comes to you and says they want a nice heavy byzantine bracelet, about 1cm wide. What do you do ? what wire do you need? what size? well you know that the ideal AR for a nice byzantine is 3.5 and you need an outside diameter of 10mm So that's our starting point. I have spreadsheets with all wires and ARs on. but without that we need to make a guess a starting point. So lats say 2mm wire. So...
2mm X 3.5 AR = 7mm mandrel
(7+2+2) = 11mm Outside diameter.
So if the customer is happy with 11mm then that's fine. If he definitely insists that its 1cm then lets go with a slightly smaller wire. say 1.9 mm....
1.9mm X 3.5 AR = 6.65 mm Mandrel
1.9 + 6.65 + 1.9 = 10.45mm Outside diameter,
Unless he's using a micrometer to measure the chain I'm sure less than half a mm over will be fine. Failing that, work out 1.8mm or 1.7mm wire. the point is, all the chains will look the same just different scale. As you reduce the the wire you reduce the mandrel and vice versa, hence the AR always remains the same, and the chain looks identical and in proportion.
Hope this all makes sense. I can look at a picture on the web, print it out (size doesn't matter) and measure the rings. then work out the aspect ratio. I can then replicate that chain in any size I want. Very powerful once you've got it. Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUk dammit. My math teacher was right. His formulas do come in handy throughout my lifetime.
@@RockyMountainBear it’s 1 am and i’m sitting here trying to remember algebra for this lol
@@CelticDreamsCoUk this is the most great information I've ever seen in a reply .wow:-) subscribed
Thank you Dave for a great explanation on the calculations and a great tutorial on this chain, I have made one with cheap jump rings first and mastered this one👍
I cannot begin to tell you how blessed I am this day. I have found all that I have lost, and now I have met you, to learn how to do something I've wanted to do since high school. I'm 64 years old now. Thank you, you have just earned a new subscriber, because of many things,1. You are a great teacher. 2. Your voice is very calming and relaxing. 3. I truly enjoyed watching you make something so beautiful.
Thank you for those kind words. You're never too old to learn, and it is really simple once you get going. You CAN do this. If you get stuck, just ask. Go for it ! Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUk yo bro both yours n his comments are so wholesome. I hope the both of you are doing awesome 👌🖤
Just came here to say I love this comment so much.
Incredibly generous sharing of knowledge and skill. Dave, you are a total star. Thank you.
Hi Pen, Thanks. I watched all the other videos and thought i could explain it better. Thanks for watching. Dave.
A recent interest in chain maile patterns and jewelry has led me to watch and save a ot of videos by several different artist. Dave, you are the first and only maker to date that has mentioned aspect raio.
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge.
Thanks for saying that. its a very important point that most people don't mention or explain. hence why I made this video. Appreciated. Thanks for watching. Dave
Learned how to do this in an hour because of this tutorial. You are an excellent teacher. Thank you, Sir.
Great. Enjoy. Perhaps have a go at the full Persian too, quite similar technique. Dave ruclips.net/video/pRGS0inVxVY/видео.html
I also love the accent, it makes it cooler to learn stuff idk why but it really helps in my opinion
Thank you. In England my northern accent is considered very working class, not at all posh. But it certainly seems that Americans do like the British accent. Dave
Thanks guys. Dave : )
Very good tutorial. Clear explanation, not too slow, not too fast, or monotone, clear image, and birds in the background, sounds like a robin, I think. Thank you.
Thanks. I think this video clip will answer that question. Dave . ruclips.net/video/bf0DPhzy7S4/видео.html
Dave I greatly enjoyed this video because of the clear explanations, the excellent video work, the qualities of your voice and your friendly easy going nature . I wound jump rings and sat in front of the telly and made a not too shabby copper bracelet, having never done chain mail before. Two big thumbs up mate.
Thanks for the lovely comments. Thats exactly why I do this. Now you too can have the joy and satisfaction of making your own beautiful chains. I am happy to have inspired you. Thanks for watching. Dave
Thank you SO much Dave! I have no problem with complicated wire wrapped pieces… but Chainmaile has always eluded me! You were able to explain this slowly & perfectly! The hardest is getting the aspect ratio correct! ❤
Glad to help. Dave
just made a braclet tonight, took about 30 mins. looks amazing, i love it.
made it with 14 guage steel wire with a 6mm inner dia. hole though, so the rings are a little loose.
gonna but a 4mm steel rod and do another one.
amazing tutorial, very easy to follow and understand, had some difficulty with the first inch, but once oi got into the swing of it i whizzed through it.
also gonna need some smooth pilers, its a little scratched and the ends are a bit nipped, but i also have a small Rotary drill and saw on order.
cant wait, already got orders from friends for some.
Great to hear. Difficult to explain, but as I say, easy when you know how. To tighten up the chain, either use slightly thicker wire, or a smaller mandrel. You mention a rotary drill and small saw. You must avoid those thin circular saw blades, uncovered in a Dremel - it's a lethal combination. I almost lost the end of my finger doing that. Best to saw them by hand with a jewellers saw. But steel wire is going to be tough to cut whatever you use. Enjoy. Dave.
@No-Ones Home... Wow, you did very well very quickly! 👍 I used 20 ga wire on a 6mm screwdriver/mandrel so mine was loose and somewhat difficult to thread rings to make the "V". Did you ever make a tighter one and, if so, was it easier than your 1st bracelet? Thanks for any input. Have a blessed day!
@@tammygurl64 i tried using a 2mm wire on a 5.5mm mandrel.
Its quite tight... So much so, that some of the rings end up getting pulled apart (i used a dremel cuttingdisc, which takes quite a lot of the ring diameter if you Arent carefull.
After months, I finally found it. A tutorial video that easily demonstrates the byzantine chain!!! I have always wanted to add this design to my jewelry making, but every video I have found just didn't click. This one did. Dave, you are a genius! Simple instructions, excellent camera angles, and a cheerful attitude. This combination works. As you stated, once you get the first knot, it's simply rinse and repeat. Now I'm browsing chainmail jump ring suppliers!!
Glad it helped! feel free to buy me Coffee ; ) link in the description. Dave
Great tutorial dave! I may be a little late coming to the table here, but your explaination is by far the best I've seen and creating an understanding of Aspect Ratio is such a valuable tool for all of us beginners! Thank you for your time and patience, you do beautiful work!
Thanks for the kind words Kelly. too many people make videos and don't show the whole process (such as adding clasps) talking about the aspect ratio, or how to make the rings. This is a very popular pattern that many people want to learn , so i thought it was important to cover everything you need to know from start to finish. Do checkout my Persian videos too. thanks for watching. Dave
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gosh thank you ever so much....I was getting really frustrated trying to make a pair of earrings and this is the best tutorial I have here seen, as someone said very generous of you to share this immense knowledge...thanks Dave
If you're making earrings, its a good idea to have something heavy on the bottom to pull down and keep the flipped links in place. Difficult to explain, but if you make a pair you will see what i mean. Dave
Thank you Dave! I was struggling following the instructions in a book but your video makes it so much clearer.
Glad to have helped. Dave
Thanks Dave for your patient and direct instruction. No longer baffled yet perhaps appreciate even more, (after 'seeing how the sausage is made'), this elegant, timeless pattern.
Easy once you know how. Thanks for watching, Dave
Have been able to repair a customer's stretch Byzantine bracelet today thanks to this tutorial Dave - Many Thanks once again.
Well done. Fixing them is indeed a skill, as you have to try and figure out what's missing. Glad to have helped. Dave
Thought I'd have to be a Master Jeweler before being able to make something like this. It certainly looks impressive enough to scare off beginners, that's for sure. Lol. But your instructions were clear and have given me hope. :) Thank you!
Also...subscribed!
Do have a go. Its quite easy once you get going, you can do it sat on the sofa watching TV. Rather like knitting. Just remember the aspect ratio. The inside diameter needs to be 3.5 to 4 times the diameter of the wire. Follow that rule and all will be well. good luck,. Dave
12:30 - Thank you! I recently bought 4 Byzantine bracelets from 3 vendors and EACH ONE had out of phase ends with an even number of jump rings. This led to having to twist the bracelet just to try and close it. One became easier to close when I shortened it by removing one link. The pair I bought from the same vendor, one bracelet was too short and one was too long. I took a link off of the long one and it ended up perfect. Then when I added that link to the short one, they became twins!
It was a blessing in disguise though. I already had a work station that I use for console/electronics repair (including microscope). So I'm already used to working on small things with my hands. And with the repair work I had to do, it got my foot in the door for jewelry repair/crafting! So +1 sub here. Thank you for this video. Especially thank you for telling folks to make sure their chain ends are in sync!
Thanks for sharing, and thanks for watching. Dave
Thank you for putting this video together. You did a great job explaining everything!
You are so welcome! Dave
I want to thank you for doing such a great job teaching. I love making this pattern. I just made a 22 inch necklace for my son in law. He is very involved in the renaissance fairs and it turned out nice. My next project is a ss bracelet for my grandson. Going to try more of your projects later.
Wonderful! Thanks for watching and for you lovely comments. Dave
Great video tutorial! I used this video to make a byzantine necklace from copper rings I wound myself, but my AR was a bit off and left me with a loose weave. To correct this I added one additional link between knots so instead of a 2-2-2 pattern like you did, I utilized a 3-2-2 and it filled in the gaps beautifully. I know its not technically correct, but it turned out well.
That's perfectly fine, some people set out to make a tipple or even quadruple byzantine where there are 3 or four connecting rings. So I guess you stumbled across that by accident. Hence the importance of the aspect ratio, as that defines how compact the wave will be. as you see it is very important. next time, use smaller rings or thicker wire, to reduce the AR. Thanks for watching. Dave.
The only tutorial I’ve found that details and describes the process easily and with the video in focus, also i was able to flick the method around for my left handed self
Glad it helped! Dave
A great teacher makes learning easy. Thank you.
What a lovely thing to say. Thank you. I actually, have been a college lecturer for 20 years, with four teaching quals, PGCE and Masters in education. So a comment such as yours is great compliment indeed. I thank you for watching and for taking the time to write such a lovely comment. Thanks. Dave
I cannot thank you enough. You are the first person who was able to actually show me how to make this. tytytytytynn Subscribed!!!!!
Thank you. Perhaps try the Full Persian 6 in 1 and the cross too. see my other vids. Thanks for watching, Dave
I;ve subscribed to your channel and will slowly work my way thru every one of your videos. You walk on water in m opinion.
Thank you so much David. After watching i made a beautiful piece in about two hours and because of You i will continue with Chain Mail for sure. It´s a wonderful quick to understand tech and give great results very quick. Love your accent too. Cheers mate !
Great. I'm pleased I have inspired you to have a go. Easy when you know how eh? Thanks for commenting. Dave.
Thanks Dave !
This is really one of the nicest weaves to do. I just love it when people suddenly get it when you show them how it is done.
A very well made video, thanks for placing it.
Thank you. Both for watching and for taking the time leave such a nice comment. It's appreciated. Dave.
Thank you for your amazing tutorial, Dave. Very clear with all the information i needed. Great time saving and effort saving tips too (which some are reluctant to tell others i know). I have made an 8 inch sterling silver byzantine pattern bracelet tonight. I taped up my pliers with masking tape to minimise damage. Took me about 4 hours using 1.5mm thick 8mm diameter rings (AR3.4), giving a nice chunky boxy bracelet at the first attempt! My girlfriend is going to be very surprised ~ i have taken photos to prove i made it too! Thanks again!
Great. Well done. I'd love to see some pics of your work. perhaps check me out on facebook see link. Dave
facebook.com/Celticdreams.co.uk/
Have to say thankyou for your time. Never tried anything like this before. I used scraps of craft wire and a 4 mm mandrel (crochet hook!) must say im pretty chuffed with the result for a 1st attempt. Thankyou again 👍😎
Great. Thanks for sharing your experience. Always nice to hear of another convert. Easy when you know how eh? Dave
Beautiful ❤️❤️❤️ Thanks. You are very easy to understand, and I love your thorough explanations and really great camera work. 😊🌸
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching. Dave
Boy do I love your Irish brogue! It makes my Irish blood sing! (I’m 40% Irish and proud of it!). You’re a great teacher and I think I’ll subscribe!
Thanks for the lovely compliment, But I'm not Irish in any way. I come from Lancashire, North west England. And definatley have a Lancashire accent. Thanks for watching. Dave
I made my first bracelet from your tutorial. I am so excited. I need to make a clasp for it (gotta learn that) thank you so much...I appreciate it....I can’t wait to see what you make next ❤️
Hi Barbara, Thanks for that. It's so lovely to hear that I have inspired you. Enjoy your new skills! You can of course always buy a lobster clasp, Albert swivel, or if you can find them "large "bolt rings look cool. Dave
Thank you so much for this video I have probably spent like 5 hours looking for a good video with a clear explanation thank you.
You're very welcome! Dave
Thank YOU for this. I was struggling a bit, but with this video it was a quick project...My Love to you My New Irish friend!
Thank you. I am pleased I managed to help you out. I'm not Irish though, I'm English. Dave. ruclips.net/video/B8nF4vREGP8/видео.html
Hi Dave, from Georgia, USA. This tutorial is 5-STAR EXCELLENCE! 👍 😃 I first saw this and commented from my other account 4 or 5 years ago after I first started making jewelry. I've read and watched other instructions but yours is still the ABSOLUTE BEST!!👍🙂 Your mentioning starting with a simple "2-2-2" structure stuck in my brain even when I couldn't remember the rest. I wasn't sure I'd ever make a Byzantine bracelet but I was so inspired by your tutorial that I started studying chainmaille and re-familiarizing myself with Aspect Ratio calculations (BTW, your A.R. spreadsheet is AWESOME!). FINALLY, after the years past, I am now successfully in the process of making my first Byzantine bracelet and a few other things. I twisted silver and yellow gold plated wire to make 18 gauge jump rings and I think it's going to look pretty good. Thanks so much for the bracelet lesson and the refresher math lesson was an added bonus. LOL! Cheers!😊
Wow, what lovely message. Great to hear that I have inspired you and that you are enjoying your new skills. When I started - before the days of youtube, it was very hard to find information. So I have always tried to share my knowledge and help others to enjoy making jewellery. Thanks for the lovely words. Enjoy ! Dave
Can't hit hat like button enough. This is may favorite chain. thank you for teaching us this. I can't wait to try.
Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Dave.
A very good and easy explanation. You are speaking slow and understandable. Great!!
Glad you think so! Thanks. Dave
Please don't ever remove this video! 😊 You explain it all so well that I finally came back and decided to try this. I don't have a proper mandrel for the abundant supply of 20 ga copper wire on hand so I used a screwdriver (=6mm) instead and Xuron precision flush cutters to make enough jump rings to get to the 2nd "V". It amazes me that something can be so easy and so difficult (hand cramps) simultaneously. LOL! Mentally, I get it now, it makes sense, but I'm struggling physically. I'm fairly certain my aspect ratio is NOT correct but I was wondering if having it tighter using smaller rings makes it easier? Or do I really need thicker wire if I get serious about it?
Thanks again for the inspiration and awesome tutorial! 🙂
Well thank "you|" for the lovely comments. This is why I make these videos. To help and to inspire others like yourself. So thanks for the comments, it makes all the hard work worthwhile. Byzantine looks best with a ratio of 3.5, so ensure the mandrel is 3.5 times the diameter of the wire. If you're using flush cutters to cut the rings, are you aware of the flip move with the cutters? its way of getting perfectly flush rings. See the video link below. Dave
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Your videos are brilliant. I have watched hundreds of hours of different tutorials and yours are so clear, informative and beautifully filmed. Thank you so much!
Thanks Audrey, Your comments are much appreciated. Dave
You are a great teacher,thanks
Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Dave
He"s right. i love 7:21
Thanks guys. This is why I do it. Thank you for taking the time to leave such a lovely comment. Dave
Thank you SO MUCH for this video!! I love byzantine links and always wanted to know how to make them. So sick of the wraps! This, in my mind, is REAL jewelry. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!
You are so welcome! Really easy when you know how. Thanks for watching. Dave
So nice to meet you Dave 🤗 This is a great tutorial and I thank you for sharing your wonderful talents with all of us!! Your explanation on the AR ratio was well explained. I wish I had the extra funds to invest in my own jump ring maker and tools so I will make sure the jump rings I do buy will be the right size and good material for the wire. I have watched other tutorials and everyone (altho the same pattern) has a different variation of doing it. YOURS by far WAS THE BEST!!!! Can’t wait to get started!! You have inspired this little Italian Lady here in Idaho in the USA 😊 I am a beader by trade but the wire work keeps calling my name....”C’mon Susie - you can do it”!! Thank you again. And I’m so looking forward to learning your 6 in 1 as well. Take care Dave and thanks again 😘
Well comments like this are the reason I do it. It's so nice to think that I have inspired people to have a go. That's the point, and hopefully you'll get as much pleasure out of it as I do. One thing to note in my method is that it's much faster as I pre close a third of the rings and attach them in pairs, so a much faster method. If you make one, send me a pic on Facebook. Thanks for watching. Dave facebook.com/Celticdreams.co.uk/
I agree with you Susan! I have watched quiet a few of these tutorials now just to get a feel for this amazing craft and so far this video is my favorite!
Thanks. TJ. Dave
Are your a jeweler? If so can I get a link???
Celticdreams.co.uk
Your tutorial is by far the easiest to follow! Thanks and your a great teacher!
Thanks you. Dave
I watched this video and then ordered my supplies.... And totally threw all that advice about size out the window lol now here I am a first timer with 4mm 16g rings trying to make this chain.... I can do it..... Maybe lol I'm three repeats in and only 20 minutes have passed haha
The aspect ratio is the all important secret. That's the recipe for every chain mail project. A ratio of less than 3.5 and you won't make it, more than 4 and it wont look good. Good luck. Dave
Byzantine is my favorite pattern. I've always wanted a delicate gold byzantine chain. Not sure I'll ever get or make one as it's pretty tight, but wow you do very very good instruction, no doubts about how its done under your tutelage. Thank you!!!
Byzantine eats wire, and so anything in gold is going to quickly get expensive. But perhaps start with a bracelet, then when funds permit, make another. You can then join them to make a chain. then extend as you wish. As you see, its very easy to do - you can do it. Dave
@@CelticDreamsCoUk That is a great idea, thank you!!!
Great tutorial- so easy to follow; thank you
Thanks you. Check out the Full Persian Below. Dave ruclips.net/video/pRGS0inVxVY/видео.html
thanks for the video! I work as an electrician and have access to oodles of scrap aluminum wire. Its not as sturdy as some other stuff but it works well for me. I have been looking for a "how to" on making wire jewelry and I think yours is best so far. Thanks again
The copper wire used for the demo here was stripped from electrical twin and earth. It's nice thick pure copper wire and pretty annealed and flexible. perfect..and cheap!. If you've got wire, then make chainmail. if you have lots of it, then it may be worth sticking some coils on eBay as people will buy it for chain mail. Dave.
Your awesome dude you have inspired me to really go for this and your a great teacher thank you
I hope you do. get some jump rings and have a go. its easy once you get going. good luck. Dave
Many thanks from a doddery UK OAP never done anything like this before but watching the vid a few times :-) with some scrap copper wire, wound around a drill stem and cut with a jewelers saw to give an aspect ratio of 3.75 Wow! Very Pleased with the result. I can keep the mind active and the fingers nimble, and the Grandkids in presents. Subscribed and Thumbs up
Great story, thanks so much for sharing it. That's precisely the reason why I made this video, to inspire people to have go. Perhaps have a go with some silver (link below). Thanks for watching. Dave
www.cooksongold.com/
Thanks for the reply, at the moment I'm finding it much easier to build it one ring at a time, the step of adding two closed to one open then adding that no problem but then threading the next ring through four rings, the fingers act like Bananas ! I bet you can do it in the dark behind your back ;-)
You do get used to it. I'd say it's also important to get good pliers (I use Tronex) and good vision. I cant work without my Optivisor. Dave ruclips.net/video/y-P4L2rjKHg/видео.html
Una maravilla de video, maestro, no se ingles pero igualmente con la calidad del video logre hacer la pulsera, gracias desde Argentina...
Estupendo. Me complace que hayas podido hacer uno. Sé orgulloso y úsalo con orgullo. bien hecho. Dave
Una pregunta yo soy de México como se llama el material con la que hizo la pulsera en donde puedo conseguirlo
Celtic Dreams/Dave, Thanks so VERY MUCH for your Byzantine Chain Mail video!!! You are extremely generous with sharing your knowledge; ensuring that everyone would have success following your video. Your explanations are the best I have heard... FAR better than the tutorial I bought!!! My biggest challenge was picking out the right mandrel/wire size and you have cleared that up for me. I look forward to seeing your other videos. Thank you - Thank you - Thank you!!!
Thank you Diana, for you lovely words. It's nice to be appreciated. I do plan on more chain mail videos in response to many requests. In the meantime, perhaps check out my Full persian and persian cross videos. Thanks Dave.
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This is really interesting. Thank you. I might have just found a new hobby.
Just make sure you get the right size rings and away you go. It's easy once you know how. enjoy. Dave
Dear Dave
What a daimond you are for sharing method and inspiration!
This is by far the best (set of) tutorial(s) I have come across. I used it to create my second real piece of jewelery and it came out great!! With just a few hours used all told.
(all things considered. Working with old and cheap pliers, less than stellar jumprings because i used a dremel, probably wrongly, and a probably wrong leaf saw with no jig to hold the rings.. No real practice ad using 1.9mm electrical wire to practice with. 🤣)
Thank you very much. I'm so pleased I have helped you in your new skills. Enjoy. Dave
Me gusto el video por fin alguien esplica con argollas mas grande .
Asi se puede visualisar mejor .
Por que con argollas pequeñas no se ve bien por que los mismos dedos tapan el video gracias muchas gracias me gusto el video .
Aga otro video con argollas grandes .
Le quedo bonita.
muchas gracias. Me complace haber ayudado. Dave
Sir, you are a very, Very, VERY good teacher! The Irish accent doesn't hurt either.😉
Thank you, but not Irish at all. Northern English, very distinct. see the link for an explanation of where I am. Thanks for watching. Dave
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You are a great teacher. Thank You for takng the time.
Thanks for watching. Dave
Wow, I never knew anyone saw the commnents.
I reply to every single one. (1,324) If you have taken the time to write a comment or message to me, then the least i can do is to acknowledge you and try try to answer you question. note all the others. Thanks for commenting. Dave.
Es usted un gran artista desde hoy no me perderé ningún video suyo
Gracias maestro
Hola. Gracias por ver. dave
Nice. Made a bracelet in about an hour. I love how yoy explained aspect ratio. Thanks!
Great, well done. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Dave.
I have never done chainmail and this was the best tutorial video ❤ thank you for sharing how to make this!
Give it a go, surprisingly easy to do. Thanks for watching. Dave
I love this video and the clasp has been a God send, also!
Thanks, It's important to finish the job properly. Many vids just show how to make it, but not how to finish it. Thanks for watching. Dave
I wanted to try this but it seemed too complicated, but after watching your very clear demonstration, it has finally clicked. Great tutorial, I will definitely be watching more! Thank you.
Yes, the byzantine looks very scary, but it's actually very easy to make, and surprisingly fast once you've got the rings. Do have a go, you can do it ! Dave
Dave that is awesome, I love your videos I learn a lot. The last chain you showed I would to learn how tp make that. THANKS
Once you get the technique it's quite simple. You can then start to make variations. Enjoy. Dave.
I just want to say this was such an informative tutorial. I applaud you, good sir.
Thank you kindly! Dave
You are amazing. Well done.
Thanks. Dave.
Thanks Dave for the video. I have been making the persian weave chains and am now going to be making the byzantine type too. I have been using brass wire and 17 ga electric fence wire to practice. Thanks again.
Thanks for the comments. There are lots of Byzantine variations once you've got the technique. Dave
I am in the US (Michigan) and wonder about that wire saw you were using. Is there a brand or something for it that I can possibly buy off Amazon?
I use a Pepe jump ring making machine as shown, to make my jump rings. But if you want the cheaper option of cutting them by hand with a "jewellers piercing saw". Then check out any jewellery supplier. the important thing is to use fine blades. Ideally you want at least three teeth across the thickness of the wire yo are cutting. for 18 ga wire use a number 1 blade, 16 ga maybe up to a number 4 blade (bigger). You can use finer blades but you''l break them. Check out Rio grande or gesswein links below. Dave.
www.riogrande.com/Product/German-4-Saw-Frame-and-Saw-Blade-Kit/110112
www.gesswein.com/p-2300-swiss-saw-frames.aspx
www.gesswein.com/p-2293-herkules-white-label-saw-blades-dozens.aspx
Wow, this a fantastic tutorial, many thanks x
Thanks for watching. and for the lovely comment. Dave
Excellent video, well explained, better than any book I have read on the subject. Your three days making this video were well spent. Thank you!
Thank for the kind words. Its appreciated. Dave
very helpful , thanks
Thanks for watching. I hope you have a go. Dave
I knew it was going to be an awesome video as soon as you started explaining the aspect ratio, answered some of my questions right away
Glad to help! Dave
1:22 my friend gave me a bracelet that look like the bottom one. he made them himself. it's a beautiful bracelet
It's Easy when you know how. Thanks for watching. Dave
Thank you for the aspect ratio explanation. Wish I watched this two days ago. I learned by mistakes and fluttering. Thought i was so stupid because i did it finally, but ignorance about aspect ratio made me sad. Thanks again.
Its so important but never mentioned or explained. Hence why so many people struggle. Lots more info on my Pepetools blog below. Enjoy. Dave
pepetools.com/blogs/news/aspect-ratio-the-magic-number-for-making-perfect-jump-rings-and-chains
Greetings Master, great respect for you,
really your videos are excellent as the quality of your art
please friend, I need your help in an information that only you can give me accurate and without error because you are the master
I am ignorant in this matter, and for that I apologize for my understandable way of explaining,
but I'm sure you can understand perfectly what I want to know,
I want to make a necklace for me with the appearance of that beautiful bracelet that you have with the name Aspect Ratio
then I want to buy the correct stainless steel rings
to make an equal chain,
My question and my request is:
Can you please tell me in centimeters and millimeters what is the measurement and the measurements of the rings that I must buy and use exactly for different thicknesses of chain?
I really like that tight appearance,
the other with a lot of space between rings does not like much,
for that reason I would like to know what are the exact measurements of the rings that I need for each different thickness in each project that I do based always on the Aspect Ratio,
and so you can buy them exactly as I need them without risk of making a mistake buying the wrong size
thank you very much master, a lot of respect for you my friend
The chain is not called aspect ratio, the chain is called byzantine. Aspect ratio is the mathematical calculation used. To make a silver bracelet like mine. I use 1.2mm silver wire, wound on a 4mm bar This gives an aspect ratio of 3.3 which is the inside diameter 4 divided by the wire 1.2 4/1/2=3.3 Watch the beginning of the video again and hopefully you will understand what the aspect ratio means. Dave
thank you very much for your answer friend,
I do not speak English, it is for that reason that I could not understand clearly, the explanation of the video,
and for that reason I wanted to write to ask you my question,
I appreciate very much that you have answered me,
I wish you much success, thank you!
You're very easy to listen to and easy to follow along with! Thank you so much!
You are so welcome! Thank you. Dave
They are Beautiful! Thank You. Do you have a link for the jump ring maker please?
People often ask me where to buy tools. But no one ever says where they are. So I don't know what country you are in. But Pepe's site below will give you a list of dealers. Dave.
pepetools.com/dealer-locator
Celtic Dreams Im from New Mexico in America. Thank you very much for your help and instructions.
Thank you! This is the first time that the Byzantine looping sequence has made sense to me!
Difficult to explain, but easy once you've got it. I hope you have a go. Dave
Are you related to Lars from Metallica
Not that I know of. Thanks for watching. Dave
Thank you so much for taking the time to make such a clear and easy to follow tutorial Dave! I've buggered about trying to make Borobudur/Byzantine style chain a few times and given up in frustration lol.. all I needed was a decent step-by-step guide. I know it's very tricky to capture focused high definition close-up video so this is very much appreciated. Great job!!
Thanks. I hope you finally managed it. Dave
thanks for your concern Dave.
NOT using thin saw blade they can catch and get thrown up. Using 0.75 abrasive cutting discs.
have to use power tools to cut the rings because stainless steel had a much higher tensile strength of gold or silver, to give you an idea bending the 1mm wire around a 4mm allen key the centre diametre of the jump ring are 5mm
but thanks to you I found chain making KIITOS (thank you)
Do be aware thought that using such an abrasive disc will leave a small gap in the ring (0.75mm). So when closed, the final jump ring will be slightly smaller. Probably not a great issue, but be aware when using tight ratios, as that small amount could make a difference. Thanks for watching. Dave
l loved the way you explain and show how to do this l have watched a few on this but yours is the best thank you so much for sharing your talent. l made myself two bracelets and am now making a necklace
Thanks. I'm glad I have inspired to make one. it's a beautiful design and so much more special to have made it yourself. Thanks for watching.Dave
A lovely clear, well explained tutorial. You've made it look easy (though I'm sure it isn't when you first start). I don't need another hobby but I think I may well have one.
Hi Annette, Do have a go. The byzantine is probably one of the easiest chains to make. Hence why it's also called the "idiots delight". Anyone can do it very easily. Dave
Just got into this rabbit hole. Your videos ore the best I have found. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, will do! Dave
Thank you so much Dave! You are a brilliant teacher and your videos are very easy to follow thank you so much!!!
Thank you for the compliments. Do have a go at the Full Persian too. Dave
ruclips.net/video/pRGS0inVxVY/видео.html
Celtic Dreams will do! Thanks Dave!
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. You are a very clear teacher.
Thank you for taking the time to comment. Much appreciated ! Dave
This was the best tutorial by far and I have just made my first Byzantine chain bracelet. Thank you Dave.
Wonderful! Once you've got, you are away. There are so many variations, different colours, textures, adding longer links. etc ect Youll never get bored with it. Enjoy your new skills. Dave.
Best video I found so far on making this Byzantine Chain. Thank you very much for sharing.
Glad it was helpful! Dave
Very nice, I did this many years ago before you tube, but had forgotten how to do it, thank you.
I hope Ive inspired you to start making it again. it's a lovely chain. Dave
I'm from Brazilian and I liked it. Congratulations.
Thanks for watching.Dave
Hi! I have watched many video tutorials about this type of bracelet, but only your explanation makes me wish to make one for my husband. Thanks for calm and very useful way of teaching! Wishing u the best of luck!!! Greetings from Jordan!
Thank you. Have a try, and just ask if you need any help. Dave
THANK YOU! I've wanted to try this for ages and never could figure it out. You make it simple
I was the same. So once I had worked out all the problem, I wanted to share. Thanks for watching. Dave
Thank you so much Dave from Florida in the USA. Your video and passion for teaching has given me the greatest joy. I am not able to walk so everything I do is from a chair. I mostly do beading designs and I must say I am pretty good at it!🤓. I started wire wrapping a couple of months ago and last week came across this link with the lovely birds chirping in the background. I mastered the technique minutes after my jump rings arrived in the mail and hope I can make a little extra income from the bracelets to save and buy my own jump ring maker someday.
I will continue to watch and learn from your videos.
It’s important you know how one small act of kindness and sharing of your talent has brought me and many others so much happiness. Someday I will make and sell jewelry too.
Blessings to you and your family.
Keep the magic going. We are
out here listening.
All the Best
Tahra Richardson
Wow. what a lovely message. Thank you for taking the time to send this. You may note that I do not have adverts all over my videos. I don't make money from doing this, I just just love to share my knowledge and passion with others. Genuine comments like this are worth much more than any gold. Thank you. Dave
Thanks a million Dave!! Brilliant teacher! It was excellent, clear and easy to follow tutorial. Thanks a lot for all your tips 🍀.
You're very welcome! Dave
Very helpful advice! I was making this pattern for the first time last night, and it was hard to keep from getting lost, making a mistake, and having to go back and re-do a section or two. Your 2+2+2 advice is great... I plan to use that method next time! I also didn't know about the aspect ratio. That explains why my chains are too loose.
Exactly why I explained it. The ratio makes a huge difference. 3.5 times the wire thickness is the ideal for a byzantine. Enjoy. Dave
Thanks for the video! I cannot wait to give this a try tomorrow. Simple to understand you in this video. It is obvious that you are a master at this craft.
Oh and subscribed to see what else you do a video on.
Thanks. I hope you have a go. its quite simple one you get it. Just make sure you get the right size rings and away you go!. Thanks for watching. Dave.
Awesome upload dear friend big Likes!!
Thanks you. Dave
This video popped up in my recommendations and it was such a great video I had to immediately go down to the local craft store and pick up some materials. Some pre-made jump rings and a couple pair of jewelry pliers and I got enough to make about 6 bracelets for about $15 US. After a couple false starts it was just as easy as it was presented. Thanks for the great video. I'll have to try more expensive metals in the near future.
Ha ! lovely. Welcome to jewellery making. You will find its very addictive. Enjoy,...and if you get stuck, just shout. Dave.
thank you for sharing your knowledge ,i now finally understand the process ,there are so many of these videos on youtube but i find that yours is very clear on the steps involve. thanks again and i cant wait to try this .
Thanks for the comments. And good luck. Once you get going you'll be surprised how easy it is. There will be no stopping you. Dave
This is absolutely amazing! Thank you for the tutorial, beautiful bracelet.
Thanks for watching. Dave
The tighter the weave the better. Brilliant wire cutter tool.
Pepetools jump ring maker II. See my video on it... Dave ruclips.net/video/2EpKbj4wcHA/видео.html
wonderful video and the most descriptive. it was extremely helpful and easy to understand compared to other videos I've found
side note, what kind of round nose pliers were those with one round part and the other one flat?
Those little pliers are my No.1 tool.
The little flat / round pliers are "beadsmith PL528" . I've had them for years and they still look like new, so tough. They have box joints so will last for indefinitely. The crazy thing is they only cost about £5. I don't know where you are but ill put a few links below. Dave.
www.thecrystalphoenix.com/beadsmith-flatround-nose-pliers-173-p.asp
www.ebay.com/itm/PL528-4-1-2-Flat-Round-Plier-for-Wire-Wrapping-BEADSMITH-PRO-Tools-/350584134023
+Celtic Dreams thank you. I'll look into it regardless of where I live. I like in the usa
Celtic Dreams I am new to this and finally ordered some rings. It would be easier if they would put the AR, ID, OD, and wire diameter in the catalogs and on the packaging. I’m still not sure I ordered the best sizes. Your instructions are amazing!!! I tried other tutorials first and could not understand what they were doing. Please continue tutorials as you are the best. Thank you soooo much!!!
Thank you Dave! This is an awesome video as I was able to see exactly how to make this pattern and reproduce it. The cherry on the top was showing us how to make the clasp. Very nice!
I find it so annoying that many people never show how to finish it. Hence why I wanted to show everything from start to finish. and explain all the theory. A long video perhaps- but hopefully well explained. Thanks for watching. Dave
that's one of the best tutorials for link chains I saw! thank you
You're very welcome! Dave