1. start by relaxing 2. tap both knees rhythmically and start the lateral eye movements 3. reimagine your trauma and associated thoughts as vividly as you can 4. look back from the wise man perspective and give new thoughts and angles to your old self; give an advice and appreciation 5. relax any physical tensions 6. take deep breathes and end the session ALSO: 1.) If you experience eye pain STOP IMMEDIATELY. (RARE) But do not continue with eye pain. 2.) Take of glasses and contacts. 3.) If you are diagnosed with a Dissociative Disorder DO NOT DO EMDR WITHOUT A HIGHLY TRAINED EMDR SPECIALIST Be aware you may be Dissociative and not know it. This is why you should be do this with trained professionals or learn a lot before you attempt this. 4.) Don't ignore 1-3 SERIOUSLY Disclaimer* I have used this and have had out of this world results. EMDR is amazing and I highly recommend it. I am not an emdr therapist however I read the EMDR Protocol book by Francine Shapiro (the person who discovered & developed this) and its important you understand some things instead of winging this. Seriously don't ignore those 3 steps above and pls go back & re read them.
This method of therapy has helped me more than all the talk therapy I have done over 40 years to relieve PTSD and depression and anxiety in just one session. If you have PTSD give it a try.
@@davee7656 Once again, no reply. I'm noticing that the people on YT's that comment that this works for them-whenever they are asked how, they never answer.
Crochet Happy it works by 1) meditating on traumatic event before beginning session 2) focusing on traumatic event during session (details/colors/sounds/smells) 3) bringing something positive into the traumatic memory (favorite person/pet/place/laughter, etc) 4) take control of the trauma by focusing on positive thing you brought into it 5) release memory 6) meditate on your experience after EMDR session
@@kristenswitzer7745 I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I have since borrowed Francine shapiros book (the founder) from the library, and she does not recommend doing this yourself -she gives exercises she does recommend but not this, (the eye movement)... if there have been multiple events in your life , you would need a trained professional. As I am half way through her book, most of it is "filler" of patient examples, but she has not yet described how this works. If you went to a professional it could take a time with each event being dealt with at approximate 250.00 a session. For instance: Bitten by dog as child, lost as a child, bullied, etc etc.
Crochet Happy I replied because I regularly attend EMDR sessions with a licensed professional for PTSD. I wouldn’t have explained if I had no experience with it. Since you wondered how it worked, I thought I would attempt a summary of the experience
Now I understand why I always loved watching tennis game, I mean literally for hours - it is just like this video - I have ADHD and never knew about it until recently - since the diagnose I’m researching and reflecting a lot about what I can do on my own to train or reset my brain as much as it can to live well without my old addictions to coffee, alcohol, sugar and carbs.
Wow... amazing! you are right! Wonderful simil... I don´t like tennis and I couldn´t stop seeing it when my father watched it... I felt now that it was similar to hypnosis... i suppose.
I did EMDR with a partner in group therapy setting. It brought up memories from when I was a baby crawling on the floor! Other things I would never have remembered otherwise. It helped me not feel so much trauma about my father's abuse, and his trying to kill me. No one should joke about this, for many reasons. The knee tapping method simulates sleep, like this video does by causing eyes to go back and forth as they do in REM. Sleep causes the trauma you keep in the front of your mind, the cerebrum, to be "flipped" back to the amigdyla which is in the rear of your brain. Normally your brain does this when you sleep, but sometimes this does not happen, so this method was developed. It works. Actually it was a miracle for me. I have almost forgotten about it completely since then. And it only took 2 one hour sessions. Thank you for this video, now that noone can afford insurance, this is the next best thing.
+Chip Mnk I'm not sure if I can answer your question with my own experience. I always had 90 minutes of EMDR and usually we'd have moments of 10 minutes (with the dots going wáy faster than this, it took about one second to go from left to right) and then we'd repeat the details, check with the 1-10 things, etc. I'm guessing we at least had one hour of eye movement, in total. And I had this two days a week.
+Reachingfor12thD , do you think I should watch it repeatedly for an hour? is this the only thing you did in the therapy setting? I cannot get EMDR where I live
I would use the knee tapping method. google it. find someone who can actually stand tapping your knee for an hour, and you have to be deeply relaxed. don't think the video would do much, but you could try
The videos work well for me. I can cope with abandonment issues while my wife and I live apart as we deal with our issues, otherwise I would have wrecked the relationship out of fear. I am forever in debt to this process and those who make it available for ptsd sufferers.
Find a therapist who knows about trauma and who can help you initially use EMDR by yourself. I have had people come in to see me after trying some of the self help methods and they were actually more traumatized and fearful after than before!!! Some methods can turn on the switch where people re-experience parts or even all of the trauma. If being in the trauma creates anxiety - very normal experience- some people feel like they are re-experiencing the original trauma or that they are stuck in a loop. That is a horrible place to be and without help can cause re-tramatization. Using EMDR can be very powerful and having someone initially to get past the challenges so that you do not further injure yourself is important. Then when you know what to expect and have moved to a different place, you can look at doing some EMDR on your own.
ive been using this video for almost a week to help deal with constant anxiety attacks as a result from a very serious car accident I was in 3 months ago and it is PHENOMENAL. Before I found EMDR I had multiple episodes a day feeling like i couldn't breathe, my heart would race, I would shake uncontrollably, and I would become extremely paranoid. It may not work for everyone but so far it has been such a help for me
I realize this comment willl probably be in vain, but people that come here to leave "humorous" or snippy comments shouldn't. This is not the place to make light of these things. It's one thing to have an opinion of how valid this may or may not be, but making smart ass comments isn't helpful and, quite frankly, insulting.
+John Miller I'm just saying; people that do this are [most likely] trolls that stumbled upon this/these page(s), and have their own, asinine, opinions (born of ignorance and low intelligence). Even your comment, John, was not helpful. I'm not upset with you, but I think it bears mentioning that such people are really @$$h0l3$...and yet they will continue, knowing they (think) are safe and untouchable. They're surely ignorant cowards.
Charles grow a pair and screw what others write. Stay in your own lane with your own issues. Caring about what others write or do will only tramp on your happiness and well being. Ignore and take the good and skip the rest. you can never control what others write or say so dont waste your precious energy especially if you have healing to do from trauma you will need ALL your energy for you and your thoughts.
My understanding is that activating both the left and right hemispheres of your brain together is what allows you to process and resolve past trauma. Each hemisphere seems to play a different role in remembering trauma in order to try and prevent future trauma, and figuring out a way forward. But that's just my take after being trained in Level 1 EMDR. I'd be curious to hear what others think, especially if they've been trained on Level 2.
found out about this recently , suprised to say its effective and it does work. to everyone who says it doesnt work for them or that it causes traumatic memories to rise that you cant handle then i suggest you do this with a therapist. it helps you see the past for what it is
I watched this two times in a row, I felt like memories came up, but very surface level ones. It was surprisingly easy to watch the whole thing.. I just want to heal the pain
Okay I actually cried not too long after watching this twice, as I thought about helping my bf when he was young and upset when his parents were fighting, and how I’d hug and hold his hand and maybe take him for ice cream, then I realized it was really me who wanted that too as a kid and I felt I didn’t get that
emdr is great, darken the room and do it a lot,.. make your eyes go side to side fully, go close enough to the screen [i don't like this one] do it now, do it a lot, just do it. emdr will not hurt you,.. it integrates both sides of the brain...
Ah, please be careful. For patients with CTE you must stop as SOON as you feel discomfort. When you have necrotic tissue in your brain, overstepping your physical pain threshold can cause severe headache. But just take a little at a time :)
You didn't walk me back out of the memory you just left me there in it. Taking this one to my therapist, it's a bigger memory than i expected it to be, thought i choose a "middle" level but wow did this put me right back inside that place. To powerful to mess with alone.
For people with childhood trauma (many), EFT (tapping) has been a miracle for me (I learned though RUclips). One has to stay in the present (like EMDR) while tapping on meridians while feeling the emotions and negative beliefs that arise and the trauma is released. I have been tapping a lot for 3 weeks and I have made amazing progress and at 54 feel I can finally love myself and that is the real cure.
Oh, I see lots on here about self-administering therapies to oneself. I can only say that I was on meds for anxiety and depression for 19 years and went to talk therapy first 5 years, but had no trauma relief as it wasn't identified. I just happened upon EFT as therapy for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and it was so successful and cleared depression that I have had to go backwards and now see it was my childhood trauma (emotional neglect in a privileged home) that has been the root of my ill mental and physical health and in clearing it myself I am so much better that it feels like a miracle.
许霭月 I’m not a therapist but I’ve done a few EMDR sessions with two therapists. I experienced a lot of frustration and upset at trying to follow the speed of the dot. I could not do it for some reason while also visualizing what I was supposed to visualize. You don’t have to use a visual stimuli to accomplish bilateral stimulation. You can use tapping, or headphones with an audio version of the bilaterals. If something about the process of EMDR gets frustrating or even retraumatizing please stop. Especially if you have a more complex trauma you should not force yourself to do it. The state of mind you’re trying to accomplish is open to anything, non judgmental towards yourself, and not trying to accomplish something in particular. It will lead you where it needs to go. It will be unexpected sometimes. Please see a therapist if you have a bunch of deep childhood traumas, and see if you can learn about protective + nurturing figures, a safe place and a container to hold your trauma until you can return to it. These things will psychologically protect you... and once they are installed will make EMDR safer. If you have a therapist you do not feel comfortable or safe with I don’t recommend you try this with them.
Worksheet Explanatory vid: ruclips.net/video/hKrfH43srg8/видео.html Prep (what a practitioner would ask you): Step 1. Explain the value of eye movements to reduce vividness of traumatic images and provide some calming Step 2. Obtain informed consent to use eye movements Step 3. Optional: Teach a grounding exercise: (eye-roll, four-square, circular) Access & activate the incident Step 4. Describe the incident: Tell me what happened. or Tell me what you are concerned about. ___________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________ Step 5. Irrational belief : When you think of that, what negative self-talk do you have? (Offer the statements below that seem appropriate) [ ] I’m responsible [ ] I have to be in control [ ] I have to be perfect [ ] I’m not good enough. [ ] I’m inadequate. [ ] I’m worthless. [ ] I’m a failure. [ ] I’m unlovable. [ ] I’m overwhelmed [ ] I am powerless. [ ] I am going to die. [ ] I am helpless. [ ] I am overwhelmed. [ ] I am trapped [ ] I am in danger. [ ] I am vulnerable. [ ] I am bad. [ ] I am damaged. [ ] I should have done something [ ] other: ___________________________________________________ Step 6. How disturbing is that thought _________________________ on a scale from 0 (no disturbance) to 10 (highest disturbance)? 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Step 7. Positive belief: How would you like to think about yourself in that situation? (Offer possible beliefs if the client has difficulty generating his/her own) [ ] I’m okay regardless. [ ] I can accept myself. [ ] I’m good enough [ ] I’m worthwhile [ ] I can get through it [ ] I’m lovable [ ] I’m adequate [ ] It’s over. I survived. [ ] I can get through it. [ ] I did the best I could. [ ] I can protect myself. [ ] I can recognize appropriate responsibility [ ] I can control what I can [ ] other:__________________ Step 8. On a scale from 1-7 where 1 is totally false and 7 is totally true, how true do you think your positive thought is now? VoC 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Totally false Totally true Step 9: Stop Signal: One we start the eye movements, stop me if other memories come up or you feel any body sensations. Step 10. Desensitize (Restricted Processing - EMD) I’d like you to bring up the incident and your negative thoughts….now follow my fingers. When I stop, think of the incident and tell me how disturbing it feels. Then follow my fingers again. We’ll repeat that process as long as the disturbance keeps changing. a. BLS /DAS(5-10 round trips of eye movements): b.Take a breath, think of the incident…0-10 how disturbing is it ? ……. Recording the disturbance is optional, rapid pacing is more important ____ Go with that Repeat a & b ____ Go with that Repeat a & b ____ Go with that Repeat a & c. Take a breath, when you think of (the incident), what do you notice?…… 0-10 how disturbing is it? _____Go with that. Repeat a,b,c a. BLS/DAS (10 round trips of eye movements): b. Take a breath, think of the incident…0-10 how disturbing is it ? Recording the level is optional, rapid pacing is more important ____ Go with that Repeat a & b ____ Go with that Repeat a & b ____ Go with that Repeat a & c. Take a breath, when you think of (the incident), what do you notice?…… 0-10 how disturbing is it? _____Go with that. BLS/DAS Repeat a,b,c Stop desensitization if the client uses his/her stop signal: Once the level of disturbance no longer drops, proceed to installation Step 11: Install and enhance VoC: a. When you think of (incident) does your positive thought still fit or is there a better one? If so, what fits now? ___________________________________________ b: When you think of (incident), how true is that thought feel now on a scale from 1-7 where 1 is totally false and 7 is totally true? ___ Go with that (BLS/DAS: 10 sets) ___ Go with that (BLS/DAS: 10 sets) c. When the VoC stops increasing, proceed to closure Step 12: Close Session a. Talk with the client about his/her experience b. Remind him/her that more situations may come up, if so, seek additional support for a mental health professional A-TIP Treatment Summary Targeted Incident _____________________________________________ Irrational Belief: ______________________________________________ Adaptive Belief: ______________________________________________ Starting SUD ____________ Ending SUD______________ Starting VoC ____________ Ending VoC______________ Outcome (circle one) Completed Unfinished Closure Intervention(s) (circle those used) None Eye-roll Four-square Circular Figure-eight Calm Place Container Client’s Status (circle one) Stable Excellent 12345 Treatment Notes: ______________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ Additional Interventions Planned :___________________________________ ______________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________
This is much better than dealing with a counselor who is not consistent and doesn’t listen. For two years I have been saying that I want to work on EMDR for a specific issue and it keeps falling by the wayside. Counselors are very difficult to find that fit specifically with people. People trained in EMDR are not necessarily fit to do it. The person I was dealing with could not focus. It was only because I could focus that it worked the few times that we were able to do it. Because of her need for control, I have not accomplished what I wanted to do. Hopefully, if you deal with an EMDR certified therapist, you will find one that is truly qualified. But if you find one where you feel that something is not right, immediately look elsewhere. Do not waste your time as I did. Thankfully, I have accomplished some resolutions but not because she was adequate. She literally was a train wreck to deal with.
Cool. I've tried taking antidepressants against depression and anxiety, but even though they made me relax a bit, they also made me unbearably tired. When searching for alternatives, I came across the very helpful and scientifically well founded book " The Instinct to Heal: Curing Depression, Anxiety and Stress Without Drugs and Without Talk Therapy" by the psychiatrist Servant-Schreiber. One of the methods he presents in his book for getting over a trauma is EMDR. The problem: in Vienna, Austria, where I live, each EMDR session costs about 170€. So, quite expensive for a rather poor student like me. I'm really surpirsed and glad at how much this youtube video is helping me. It might not be as effective as a real therapy session, but after doing this twice, I feel already much better than before. At least it has helped me much more than ADs and psychoanalysis. THANKS for uploading this!
170??? My therapist here in Italy gets 70€ per session!!! That's 2 and a half times what i pay! Who are those people, Professor X and Jean Grey? They better be telepaths for those prices.
fruchtkoerberl You might also want to investigate tapping. There's a book by Laurel Parnell, a psychologist, on tapping; she is also featured on a video on youtube using tapping with a student of hers. It's similar in that it uses bilateral stimulation, which we now know is what is needed, though it's not only eye movement that can provide it. Tapping the right and left sides of the body can do it too. And finally, you can downlowd EMDR music that will do it too.
It's so sad that working on trauma is not really approved by mainstream medicine (except very obvious forms of shock trauma, as we all might know) and that it's so difficult for someone who cannot spend a lot of money for help.
My landlady has been in counselling and talk therapy her entire life. She's been abused, and a date she went on a couple years ago, the guy tried to kill her. Talk therapy never worked but she swears by this.
For those saying that you need a trained professional is simply not true. While I won't bash the professionals I am sure they will do a fine job if you hire one, I believe you don't need one. Francine Shapiro the founder of EDMR said she had discovered this technique on a walk one day and that disturbing thoughts were less powerful than before. So to say it's dangerous is a bit of an exaggeration and may be more so to protect the industry. In the end of the interview Francine says : I think affect and evolution theorists could contribute here regarding why certain experiences are ingrained and unchanged. It may be due to certain developomental windows. It may be due to the interaction of types of neurotransmitters and high arousal. We are biologically determined to respond in certain ways when danger and survival fears surface. It may be that experiences such as being humiliated in childhood are the evolutionary equivalent of being cut out of the herd. At any rate, if you bring those earlier experiences to mind and you get no negative physical reaction, but adaptive/adult related thoughts spontaneously emerge, then I would say the information is appropriately processed. At the end she says that if you bring these experiences to mind and you have healthy adult thoughts afterwards... you are technically in the clear.
So one video says to think of your life events that have harmed you while you are looking ...now here I am reading that you must think of positive thoughts...so which is it? Totally polar opposite instructions
It can be dangerous if you get yourself into a horrible space and can’t get out by yourself. Then what? But it’s am quite safe for reinforcing positive things like, “I am safe now.” Use your judgement. If your issue is quitting a bad habit, have at it. If it’s childhood trauma, I would recommend therapy and supervision. And that’s not to “protect the industry” (what an oddly cynical thing to believe about people dedicated to helping others!).
Think of the trauma as a child and organize it as an adult . for example, think of basic fear like getting kicked out of the herd, then think I am an adult now, what caused the first kick out of the herd was it me or others? ,if it was not me , it was not my foult I will find another herd where I am safe now I am an adult if it was your foult this will help u forgive and move on and learn from the mistake like hey don't insult your friends!!!! Hope it helps don't do to much at the time break it in small parts, I am not a specialist just my intuition!
Thank you for sharing this and the helpful comments below. i am new to EMDR and just starting with this now, an old childhood memory popped into my mind and I realised how traumatic it was and i'd buried so frozen it. I will use this technique via the clip above and hope to free myself of chronic shoulder pain which has at times has been very hard to live with. Thank you again
I love EMDR and used to do it with a Dr in the field for my anxiety. It is amazing the things and emotions that can come up. I also had visions and all I can say is WOW!! I do not take medication and have not for years. I do recommend a trained professional. There is also no set pattern or timing for the movements of the light. I prefer it slow and straight across but others may like a figure 8, or diagonal pattern. You can also do tapping of your foot or hands. EMDR is just amazing if done by a very competent trained professional. I highly recommend this treatment for anxiety!!
You are right to say that one needs a professional, i am in therapy al together now for 10 months yes long time and every week, but i am 45 and have al together about 8 traumaas to cope with..so far i am at number 5 does it work yess but there is also the matter of side effects that nobody here talks about...i cannot stop until everything is alterred for i have headaches extreme muscle pain and a stoned feeling in my brain...also feeling sick in the stomach and dizzyness are common...my anxiety is still not gone only replaced for a numb feeling...maby that is because i have to much to resolve, but what i mean to say here is if you are trying yourself and you keep '''hanging'' in your trauma or fear that can obstract your body or mental reactions i learned that when my therapist was not available for 2 weeks..please be wise and to everybody here i wish you good luck and mental health!
Your Emdr tool work fine but i dont know how to use it so i prefer to use Turboemdr site and know all the process their such as installing positive believes and lowering the power of negatives ones,. Just look on the dot alone not does anything to me without proper EMDR instructions. this why i stop use this video.
I got EMDR from a skilled trained therapist and it change me forever. Calmer, less narcissistic tendencies, stress reduction to almost zero, ability to make healthier choices etc. That said, I also tried EMDR with a less skilled therapist and it did very little, and you will know right in the session because when it works its like time travel, where you get to inhabit the body of your younger self with ALL the feelings you had then, not just the traumatic one. BUT even with the good therapist it took a couple of sessions to get there. Now I don't know if this self administered stuff works because there is a protocol to this in terms of talking and guiding etc. I could imagine it calms you but not sure it would address specific traumas the way a practitioner could.
If you only focus on sadness or fear it's supposed to work way better. Core-focused Emdr is supposed to be able to work within 10 minutes! Look it up on the net. I used it on a fear I had and it went away.
+Riley Cullen I freaked out whenever someone put their hands around my neck. I'd burst into tears go into maximum distress and sob "It's just so unfair!" There's no reason whatsoever WHY I should have had that reaction. But it went away anyway. I just closed my eyes, thought about what upset me and moved my eyes (still closed) back and forth until the fear went away. It still hasn't come back. I recommend you read Debbie Ford's book "The secret of the shadow" It's for working through what caused the fear in the first place. That really works for me too.
Two weeks ago I had my first EMDR session with a therapist. I was taken by surprise to say the least of the awareness that surfaced. Not really memories for me but a sifting away of denial and the release of a burden I had been carrying for a long time. Afterward I felt space within myself that has not left me. I am sold on this method and would like to know if it is beneficial doing it alone.
EMDR is an amazing way to take the charge out of Traumatic Events current or past. I have been doing it in combination with therapy and what I can say unequivocally is that without it I would still be sitting in the chair. Today I do it every couple of weeks on my own with my own machine sound/tactile and it changes my attitude and reaction levels completely. Highly recommended for UN packing your trauma/addiction backpack...
Allegra Antenucci Hi there, where did you get your own emdr machine? i had one session for prsd and ocd but was unable to continue due to cost and moving to a new place, do you think there is anything really good on the internet that can help? the one time i did emdr it was with head phones and a large light momevemnt bar. thanks
jerelea dionne You can download music that works too. I think it's Mark Grant ... on amazon with some EMDR music. I do think anyone who is really troubled should use a qualified professional at least to begin Also, for anyone who wants a LOT of information about EMDR, including a story of one person using it by herself, check out behavior net online. Do a google search for "behavior net online EMDR" and it should bring up a now-closed discussion forum, hosted by Sandra Paulson that has extensive information about EMDR. I found it fascinating and very educational. There is one long thread about a woman who had to do it on her own. And in the meantime ; ) you can download some music to use with headphones. Wishing you well.
I've done EMDR on and off for a few years this is cool but what would be so much better is if the promps were read instead of flashed on the screen. It's hard to focus and follow the box when you have to look away to read what just popped up or even if you don't need to read them cause you know the procedure.
I was hit by a car in 1998. I was riding my mountain bike. The car was going between 50-60mph. Therapist friend in New York suggested EMDR about ten years ago. Research has found EMDR to benefit those suffering PTSD. I developed unatual fears after my accident. I found a therapist that utilized EMDR (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and anger management), along with more traditional therapy (talking). I no longer go to the therapist. Its been a couple years. I am not sure if EMDR was that effective. However, some of the fears I had before going to the therapist, seemed to subside a bit. I still have one unnatural fear that haunts me. I wish to god it would go away ha. I found this youtube clip a couple days ago. I never thought to look on youtube for EMDR. I am going to experiment with this "self-administered EMDR" and other videos i found on youtube. This one fear i have, just will not go away haha. Thank you
Try Holographic Kinetics. It works with your Spirit to identify the original cause of any trauma you have ever experienced in any existence as well as inherited. If EMDR is not clearing it - it only works with your Soul (and Soul is memory) - than there may be many other aspects you are dealing with, one being that the accident may have activated a trauma from a previous life or was passed down the genetic line, there may be inter-dimensional interference, etc. I recommend EMDR and/or EFT to my clients if there is delay in them being able to see me for an appointment, to assist them to lessen the charge on the trauma in the meantime. I will not be back to engage in back and forth as this Video is about EMDR. If you wish to contact me visit my RUclips Channel or website: hyperdimensionalhealing.com
This is the best one of them all. The jerkiness of it really does have my eye muscle working in the right way. The smooth ones make my overall eyes feel sore, this one seems like just the part thats moving my eyes get affected.
Let's see......some folks are making a living providing EMDR therapy. Now there is a short video on the topic purporting to be useful to the average Joe. So those same therapists are unhappy. They say self treatment is dangerous, useless, etc., etc. Well...........it is also free. And lots of people aren't ever going to have the luxury of a therapist. My intuition tells me that this is a lot less dangerous than booze--the treatment all too many people resort to. Another popular regimen--EFT--has been successfully used by a lot of lay people, and it has elements of EMDR. I"m referring to the nine gamut sequence in EFT. So those of you with nerves of steel might just want to try this EMDR video and judge for yourselves. Rebel sheeple!!! lol
safebot There are dangers everywhere. People should be prepared accept the consequences f of their actions. It's a notion quite alien to a lot of people. Most people will not have easy access to a therapist--that is especially true when it comes to EMDR. One can, of course, go to an MD and get a handful of pills. That's certainly an easy route.
I don't know if this video is dangerous, but I've tried it and I also see an EMDR therapist and for me there's no comparison. The video on its own has very little effect. Therapy with a good, trained therapist is extremely powerful. I realise that's frustrating for anyone who can't access an EMDR therapist, but for anyone who can and feels the need, I'd encourage them to do so.
The back and forth eye movement of EMDR is supposed to mimic REM when we sleep to process memories- and that is something we naturally do ourselves without any therapist...
Having been there and done that. I was surprise to see this on RUclips. It's a great tool ONLY for those who have already been there with someone on the other end asking the right questions in order to direct you in the right path. Those who have tried it know how it can become frustrating as ever. And the real therapy sessions can cost from $150 an hour to $250 an hour depending upon the experienced therapist has had in the past and knowing the capabilities that must go with each session(s). Some therapist have not gone into this area of psychology because they themselves know of the responsibility that goes with each session for each individual they are working with in healing. And although once healed. The patient can actually help themselves in a small meditation manner once a month.
Your dreams were foggy or dissociated before right? I think I do remember vivid dreams the first time I tried this a year ago. Returned after 1-2years because I've just been coping and I need to heal.
When I was 2 years old I was the victim of severe physical abuse that went on for 2 years. Ive been in EMDR therapy for the last year and It has changed my life. I have used this video for the last 6 months as a supplement to my time in the chair with a professional. There are times when I need to process memories and Its simply easier to sit down at home and do the work than call in and visit my therapist. This is an extremely useful video but I only recommend using it to process trauma if you're actively working with a professional who can better point you in the right direction. Without my therapists help this video would be useless. EMDR is a complicated process and you will need professional guidance and EMDR sessions to fully understand how to make this video work to help you.
There is a set of questions that the therapist asks. You have to be willing to tell the therapist what your mind's picture is showing you. It's not that simple, nor is the technique. And you need to put a trust with the therapist as well, because that is the first thing that needs to happened if you REALLY want to move forward. There is no TRICKS period. Silly idea in the first place. Really! The therapist are trained for so many years before they get the degree in EMRD along with psychology degree.
Leyla Sousou The biggest problem with my disorder is that I had severe disassociative amnesia of the events that were causing me to have anxiety and panic attacks. So for me a lot of the time I have no idea what memories processing will dig into. If I get anxiety, panic, depression, or feel strong emotion towards an event I come home and sit in front of this video and focus on the event, the feeling it gave me, and the negative cognition about myself it made me feel i.e. i'm weak, I can't protect myself, I shameful, I'm not worth being loved etc. Then when I have it cleary in my mind I watch the moving lights without moving my head and the processing happens. Ill process for 30 seconds to 3 minutes at a time and just keep going until my mind feels clear or exhausted and I feel ive gotten to the core of what was making me feel bad. It usually results in hours of me doing this and I almost always cry deeply. The traumatic events and the vast majority of my issues surrounded things that took place with my closest family members. The process is very similar in the chair with my therapist, but he's much better at directing the processing and knowing what's behind my emotions.
People want to know if they can do EMDR on their own! I always suggest to the people I work with that being informed is especially important. I always suggest that to reduce the chance or re-traumatization, that people first work with a trained and EXPERIENCED EMDR mental health therapist! Initially, the traumatic material can be overpowering. People can experience feelings, sights, sounds, smells and physical sensations as if they are in the traumatic situation - again! With that level of experiencing, it is important to be with someone who helps make sure that the process is going as it should and that you are not getting STUCK in the memories and trauma, not getting re-traumatized! Then after the difficult stuff is out of the way - often in as little as 3 sessions - you can determine if you want to try it on your own. EMDR is great for many things, not just trauma. For example, if you have a presentation at work and want to be more relaxed, it works wonders as a way to calm down and get perspective a few days before the presentation. Is also good for grief, sadness writers block, social anxiety. It works for anything where there is ANXIETY that gets in the way of living, working or loving in your best life! It does work. But be smart, work with a professional first!
You expect to much from professionals, some of them suck, while folks at home aren't all stupid. My therapist left me in stage 3; read the Wikipedia Page NEVER STOP ON PHASE 3. "we're about out of time here"....
For some reason moving our eyes back and forth or looking up in corners of eyes helps to release old somatic traumas stuck in the nervous system. It happens in little chunks for me.
Do you get shaking or spasming? I heard that was one sign of it. What other bodily effects do you observe? I don't know if it's helping, I think I might've discharged a little. My most common experience is heavy breathing, it's like my breathing gets into a deeper breathing trance and I get a strange feeling. Later on I might get small shaking tho it could be tensed muscles for me. I kinda feel lighter maybe, not sure.
This has too much distraction for me. Moving the eyes back and forth somewhat faster than this is not hard to learn to do without an aid of any sort. Anyone can learn this part of EMDR safely. Anyone needing to see a therapist should as soon as possible. The eye movement alone can assist, lowering tension, etc. without a therapist present. I was certified in EMDR in 1991 and have years of experience in teaching people how to do it for themselves. It is safe to learn and very effective. The energy of the eye movement hitting the sensory cortex of the brain triggers healing in brain functioning at the neuro energy level.
Richard have you had any experience with CTE patients? I am looking into it right now as I am close to someone with CTE and I am thinking that this will be an option to force the brain to make new connections! :)
EMDR can bring up tremendously painful traumatic memories. I would not advise doing it without a competenly certified EMDR therapist and I would recommend emotional stability when doing the treatments. I had great success with a certified therapist, but could not have tolerated on my own or had as successful conclusions without the therapist's guidance.
Just think about the negatieve stuff in the past and try to replace it with the ability that you can handle it or something positive. If this doesn't work it will mean that the root cause is deeper and that you will have to dig deeper (if you want) or go to a professional and let them do it. Choice is yours. Good luck!
I felt weird After doing it. I stopped at the 4 min mark because my eyes and head started hurting. I felt strange after but a hr later I feel really good. Imma keep doing and see how it helps my anxiety
There is a another EMDR on RUclips with a green dot going back and forth. I found that one better than this one and all others. It also has bilateral sounds as the dot goes back and forth. I would recommend that one. EMDR helps. I know quite a bit about it. And the green dot video will provide results. Hope this helps to all.
Not sure if you can be your own therapist. I've had one or two moments that were confusing and where the therapist needed to repeat the question. That's be scary if you're all alone and trying to calm yourself down. Also, my eye-movement was wáy faster, wáy wáy faster, like 2 seconds to go from left to right and back to left. The slower the movement is, the longer you're in the 'uncomfortable moment' before the feelings are gone and you can prepare for the next question/step. I'd stick with a real person, if you ask me.
you can speed up the video with youtube... I tried all speeds... x2 was pretty good. What happens is that my peripheral vision starts to come into play and this meditative state that allows me to think comes in to play. It's like everything compulsive in me just shuts down and I can micromanage, organize, and compose myself. I've had moments like this in life where I am able to think in these meditative states, but now I can do this every morning and evening or whenever a craving hits me. My only beef with the video is that its too short. Would love to see a 10 hour upload.
Revisit a memory of a traumatic incident while following the movements on the screen with your eyes (stimulating both sides of the brain). “When the memory is brought to mind, the feelings are re-experienced in a new way. The power that the "knot" held over the person fades away.” -Suite 101 “…EMDR clients also learn to replace negative thoughts (such as “I’ll never get this job”) with more positive thoughts (such as “I can get this job if I try hard enough”).” Scientific American
As an EMDR trained therapist, this is not EMDR therapy. This is simply eye movements. Actual EMDR therapy has specific protocols that are intended to be done in conjunction with the bilateral stimulation. Otherwise, what are you reprocessing? Understanding of course that therapy with a private therapist is expensive, doing a treatment incorrectly can cause more problems than it solves. Simply doing eye movements without specific focus or plan is not likely going to produce the results that doing it in a clinical setting with a properly trained clinician will. Check with your health insurance as this is covered by most health insurance carriers. You can also find sliding scale therapists through Open Path Therapy Collective.
I noticed that my mind stopped thinking too much, my breathing got slower and deeper, making me relax more and more. This SCIENTIFICALLY BASED therapy really works, dear friends. We actually can do this on ourselves without this RUclips video. But this video can help us get comfortable with this therapy. God bless us all.
What about things like stored traumas and the effects of past traumas? Do you or does anyone know if this video will help with that? I absolutely noticed my breathing get deeper just like you said, almost like a trance. My body (maybe just tensed muscles?) spasmed or had minor shaking. I kinda feel lighter, less burdened I think. There's a subtle hint of happiness or hope but I don't know if that's just relaxation from the video or a permanent effect.
Continuous below:(focuses our attention to tri-dimensions, the distance between objects, perspective). This is a way to get into it. To focus our attention in the now. The five senses (hear, see, taste, touch, smell) can help us to get into the here and now.This allows us to have access to our higher mental capacity as written above , our life becames immediately lighter .
Hi Michal EMDR with the right protocols can be very powerful. This is just bi-lateral stimulation. Sound via headphones and tactile stimulation works also.
I'm diagnosed D.I.D. so can't recover in a vacumme, if I try to only ever be my own therapist then I'll end up being a narcissist...saving this video for open eye hypnosis but yeh....shrugging awkward silence...
+Max Lloyd Eriksen That's really strange. It clearly says "Continue to allow your present higher mental capacity to assist and guide you while you assimilate different thoughts and emotions." Right there at 1:26 (I was wrong on the time)
while doing eye movement with the guide of this video, do you have to remember the traumatic event or think about the potential cause that necessitated the need for EMDR or just following the eye movement in this video will be helpful?
I want to provide a warning if you consider using EMDR on your own. EMDR can open memories, including memories of prior abuse that have been repressed. I know because this happened to me when I was working with a therapist. Enough of the details were verified following EMDR to confirm that what I was recalling was accurate and it was ghastly. If you suspect in any way that you may have memories you cannot retrieve because you were severely abused, do not use EMDR on your own. What you uncover could be extremely traumatizing and you will not have the support and expertise you need. EMDR also helps to process the trauma to reduce the extreme emotional impact, but you need someone trained in case you are unable to complete that piece. You can end up in a very bad place. It was hard for me to get through opening my trauma and I had a therapist with more than 10 years of experience in using EMDR.
This is correct. I’m sorry you went through that. I hope people do heed your warning and at least start with a therapist so they will know what this can be like and have coping skills in place in case things go wrong. 💜
EMDR therapy CAN be a very effective tool; however, it is important NOT to do it without an EMDR therapist as you can activate traumatic material and be unable to resolve it, making whatever feelings you are trying to heal actually much worse. If you think EMDR therapy can help you, go to EMDRIA's website to find a trained therapist.
In this way, we stop identifying with our thoughts, trauma, etc.it's a strange thing, is a way through which we can delete the files that no longer serve us in our brain, like when we press delete in a hard disk.
I think this is interesting as one could use it instead of paying hundreds of pounds for a light box thanks for posting. I am a counsellor and have trained in EMDR but don’t use very often as find moving my hand from side to side is tiring for my arm etc
this is interesting, because i had noticed shaking in my body a couple times as i was trying to not let a negative emotion control me..it was like it took so much effort to let go my body actually shook, i felt that i was releasing its hold
Okay my comment seems to have disappeared so I will re-write it. This can be dangerous for some people. Over the last 20 years researchers have refined the process of EMDR to be safer and safer as it can be very distruptive to someone's functioning if the have suffered significant trauma. It is to be done as part of an 8 step procedure with a therapist over multiple sessions.
Yes, It CAN be dangerous for some people. However, remember that Francine Shapiro, who founded EMDR, stumbled on this by doing a simple process on herself, and found herself freed from the charged emotions. Her research over the years helped to get more out of the process, so that is good as well. Best to education oneself quite well before choosing either path. Sometimes simple therapies get overly complex over time, which only serves to make it inaccessible and a rarified process. Truth and relief doesn't have to be a complex matter. My opinions only.....
Try it right away; for 10 mins a day for a week,... don't wait... darken the room..... I now play emdr while I listen to guided meditations 2hrs a week or more. GO DO IT NOW. and tell everyone else to start.
1.) If you experience eye pain STOP IMMEDIATELY. (RARE) But do not continue with eye pain. 2.) Take of glasses and contacts. 3.) If you are diagnosed with a Dissociative Disorder DO NOT DO EMDR WITHOUT A HIGHLY TRAINED EMDR SPECIALIST Be aware you may be Dissociative and not know it. This is why you should be do this with trained professionals or learn a lot before you attempt this. 4.) Don't ignore 1-3 SERIOUSLY Disclaimer* I have used this and have had out of this world results. EMDR is amazing and I highly recommend it. I am not an emdr therapist however I read the EMDR Protocol book by Francine Shapiro (the person who discovered & developed this) and its important you understand some things instead of winging this. Seriously don't ignore those 3 steps above and pls go back & re read them.
no matter how much i read about it, no matter how it is explained to me, no matter how long i sit here staring at these boxes, i don't see how this is supposed to help severe trauma. and yes, i've done more than read comments. i can't get past what happened to me and i can't have some white boxes help anything at all.
This is really only one part of a much larger program. Maybe you don’t resonate with eye movements, maybe you’d do better with bodily sensations or sounds. If you can possibly figure out how to get an appointment with a therapist that does EMDR that’s your best bet. If you have health insurance the huge price tags you see on here often do not apply. You’ll pay a copay. If you don’t have health insurance many therapists charge a much discounted “cash rate” which they don’t usually advertise. You honestly owe it to yourself to check this out in a real setting if you have multiple intense traumas to work through.
Alan, it doesn't do you any good to lie during EMDR. or any kind of therapy. If you can't be honest what's the point, right?! What would you lose by being honest, 110% honest, in therapy?
If you didn't know what emdr was you would not be worried or think anything bad was going to happen. Everyone had a choice to stay or leave. I have a past of intense abuse and this did nothing to me because I only watched it for about 30 seconds but even so I was never really worried about it. Have you ever seen Newton's Cradle? Always saw these as a kid and it's the same eye movement and no one ever worried about it.
So appreciative for the work done here for those of us suffering from any kind of loss. I’ve referred to rem many times over the years & got consistent aid.
Charles Pruett as far as i understand, you should recall traumatizing memories during eye movemnt sessions. the eye movement enables reprocessing capacities in a rather mechanical way, compared to speech therapy, enabling your brain to reevaluate and decouple those memories from triggering fear. it also seems to not be clear, why this works.
Like dynomite939 said: try to imagine a specific moment in the past that forms part of your 'trauma'. Focus on the image. Try to feel how you felt, facing what you had to face. Are you anxious? Sad? Angry? Where do you feel this, physically? Focus on the physical feeling. What colour fits what you're feeling now? Try to imagine this colour, flowing through your body. This is how my hypnotherapist guided me. It was extremely helpful. And personally, I always try to see the image (mental or real) as symbolic. Make it mean something.
@@dynomite939 this is contradictory to what my therapist did. we were working on positive mindfulness and she stopped the emdr (buzzers in each hand) when trauma surfaces so as to not program it in with the body. So I'm confused what to do now...
The pace of the squares moving seems very fast, but perhaps this is the rate that is needed. I would personally like to have a slower rate, does it make a difference?
+Cassandra's Counseling It does make a difference, for each person it's different. Mine is wáy faster, about 5 times as fast and I prefer the light-method, without sounds or tapping or such things. It also depends how far you're away from the light/screen/etc. But I have to mention, it's best to always have someone else (the therapist) there to guide you trough this. If you're doing this for serious reasons and serious trauma, you need to have a professional there. It can make you confused, or if you're doing it wrong and not focussing right (as in, going báck and re-living the moment instead of only describing the moment) you need someone to stop you and say; 'No, you're not in that position anymore, you're here now and you're doing fine, it's alright.' Because you can't comfort yourself if you panic or lose controll over something.
@@drakulian7456 Not dúring the EMDR, but before and after, you are. You describe the scene. Find the most painful moment. Use the light. Speak about it. Use the light. Speak. Light. Speak. Light. Check up on the amount of stress that is left. Etc.
Credo che per i piccoli traumi( ricordi di offese o insulti etc..) si possa fare anche da soli ma per i traumi gravi(violenze terremoti etc ) allora bisogna farlo con un terapeuta.
1. start by relaxing
2. tap both knees rhythmically and start the lateral eye movements
3. reimagine your trauma and associated thoughts as vividly as you can
4. look back from the wise man perspective and give new thoughts and angles to your old self; give an advice and appreciation
5. relax any physical tensions
6. take deep breathes and end the session
ALSO:
1.) If you experience eye pain STOP IMMEDIATELY. (RARE) But do not continue with eye pain.
2.) Take of glasses and contacts.
3.) If you are diagnosed with a Dissociative Disorder DO NOT DO EMDR WITHOUT A HIGHLY TRAINED EMDR SPECIALIST
Be aware you may be Dissociative and not know it. This is why you should be do this with trained professionals or learn a lot before you attempt this.
4.) Don't ignore 1-3 SERIOUSLY
Disclaimer* I have used this and have had out of this world results. EMDR is amazing and I highly recommend it.
I am not an emdr therapist however I read the EMDR Protocol book by Francine Shapiro (the person who discovered & developed this) and its important you understand some things instead of winging this.
Seriously don't ignore those 3 steps above and pls go back & re read them.
This method of therapy has helped me more than all the talk therapy I have done over 40 years to relieve PTSD and depression and anxiety in just one session. If you have PTSD give it a try.
I want to learn to do it on my own. Any recommendations or reasources?
@@davee7656 Once again, no reply. I'm noticing that the people on YT's that comment that this works for them-whenever they are asked how, they never answer.
Crochet Happy it works by
1) meditating on traumatic event before beginning session
2) focusing on traumatic event during session (details/colors/sounds/smells)
3) bringing something positive into the traumatic memory (favorite person/pet/place/laughter, etc)
4) take control of the trauma by focusing on positive thing you brought into it
5) release memory
6) meditate on your experience after EMDR session
@@kristenswitzer7745 I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I have since borrowed Francine shapiros book (the founder) from the library, and she does not recommend doing this yourself -she gives exercises she does recommend but not this, (the eye movement)... if there have been multiple events in your life , you would need a trained professional. As I am half way through her book, most of it is "filler" of patient examples, but she has not yet described how this works. If you went to a professional it could take a time with each event being dealt with at approximate 250.00 a session. For instance: Bitten by dog as child, lost as a child, bullied, etc etc.
Crochet Happy I replied because I regularly attend EMDR sessions with a licensed professional for PTSD. I wouldn’t have explained if I had no experience with it. Since you wondered how it worked, I thought I would attempt a summary of the experience
Takes you through a range of emotions on your own home at your own pace. Much better than telling about something over and over again
Now I understand why I always loved watching tennis game, I mean literally for hours - it is just like this video - I have ADHD and never knew about it until recently - since the diagnose I’m researching and reflecting a lot about what I can do on my own to train or reset my brain as much as it can to live well without my old addictions to coffee, alcohol, sugar and carbs.
Look up Andrew Huberman ADHD on RUclips
Wow... amazing! you are right! Wonderful simil... I don´t like tennis and I couldn´t stop seeing it when my father watched it... I felt now that it was similar to hypnosis... i suppose.
football game maybe or any ball-moving games
I did EMDR with a partner in group therapy setting. It brought up memories from when I was a baby crawling on the floor! Other things I would never have remembered otherwise. It helped me not feel so much trauma about my father's abuse, and his trying to kill me. No one should joke about this, for many reasons. The knee tapping method simulates sleep, like this video does by causing eyes to go back and forth as they do in REM. Sleep causes the trauma you keep in the front of your mind, the cerebrum, to be "flipped" back to the amigdyla which is in the rear of your brain. Normally your brain does this when you sleep, but sometimes this does not happen, so this method was developed. It works. Actually it was a miracle for me. I have almost forgotten about it completely since then. And it only took 2 one hour sessions. Thank you for this video, now that noone can afford insurance, this is the next best thing.
+Chip Mnk I'm not sure if I can answer your question with my own experience. I always had 90 minutes of EMDR and usually we'd have moments of 10 minutes (with the dots going wáy faster than this, it took about one second to go from left to right) and then we'd repeat the details, check with the 1-10 things, etc. I'm guessing we at least had one hour of eye movement, in total. And I had this two days a week.
+Reachingfor12thD , do you think I should watch it repeatedly for an hour? is this the only thing you did in the therapy setting? I cannot get EMDR where I live
I would use the knee tapping method. google it. find someone who can actually stand tapping your knee for an hour, and you have to be deeply relaxed. don't think the video would do much, but you could try
The videos work well for me. I can cope with abandonment issues while my wife and I live apart as we deal with our issues, otherwise I would have wrecked the relationship out of fear.
I am forever in debt to this process and those who make it available for ptsd sufferers.
Find a therapist who knows about trauma and who can help you initially use EMDR by yourself. I have had people come in to see me after trying some of the self help methods and they were actually more traumatized and fearful after than before!!! Some methods can turn on the switch where people re-experience parts or even all of the trauma. If being in the trauma creates anxiety - very normal experience- some people feel like they are re-experiencing the original trauma or that they are stuck in a loop. That is a horrible place to be and without help can cause re-tramatization. Using EMDR can be very powerful and having someone initially to get past the challenges so that you do not further injure yourself is important. Then when you know what to expect and have moved to a different place, you can look at doing some EMDR on your own.
ive been using this video for almost a week to help deal with constant anxiety attacks as a result from a very serious car accident I was in 3 months ago and it is PHENOMENAL. Before I found EMDR I had multiple episodes a day feeling like i couldn't breathe, my heart would race, I would shake uncontrollably, and I would become extremely paranoid. It may not work for everyone but so far it has been such a help for me
I realize this comment willl probably be in vain, but people that come here to leave "humorous" or snippy comments shouldn't. This is not the place to make light of these things. It's one thing to have an opinion of how valid this may or may not be, but making smart ass comments isn't helpful and, quite frankly, insulting.
+John Miller I'm just saying; people that do this are [most likely] trolls that stumbled upon this/these page(s), and have their own, asinine, opinions (born of ignorance and low intelligence). Even your comment, John, was not helpful. I'm not upset with you, but I think it bears mentioning that such people are really @$$h0l3$...and yet they will continue, knowing they (think) are safe and untouchable. They're surely ignorant cowards.
+John Miller The internet is big enough to troll somewhere else.
I think people are afraid to face their own trauma and thier defense is ridicule or lashing out.
Charles grow a pair and screw what others write. Stay in your own lane with your own issues. Caring about what others write or do will only tramp on your happiness and well being. Ignore and take the good and skip the rest. you can never control what others write or say so dont waste your precious energy especially if you have healing to do from trauma you will need ALL your energy for you and your thoughts.
@@sulatlalaki well said
I don't understand why this is so effective. It's truly amazing.
My understanding is that activating both the left and right hemispheres of your brain together is what allows you to process and resolve past trauma. Each hemisphere seems to play a different role in remembering trauma in order to try and prevent future trauma, and figuring out a way forward. But that's just my take after being trained in Level 1 EMDR. I'd be curious to hear what others think, especially if they've been trained on Level 2.
look up Dr. Robert Scaer's work. I think his explanation fits best of any and it has to do with the flight-or-fight response. It's fascinating
I literally watched the whole thing while listening to binaural beats through my headphones. Really relaxing stuff.
I absolutely love binaural beats. Just discovered EMDR. I was just thinking I could probably combine these two for extra benefits.
found out about this recently , suprised to say its effective and it does work. to everyone who says it doesnt work for them or that it causes traumatic memories to rise that you cant handle then i suggest you do this with a therapist. it helps you see the past for what it is
I watched this two times in a row, I felt like memories came up, but very surface level ones. It was surprisingly easy to watch the whole thing.. I just want to heal the pain
Okay I actually cried not too long after watching this twice, as I thought about helping my bf when he was young and upset when his parents were fighting, and how I’d hug and hold his hand and maybe take him for ice cream, then I realized it was really me who wanted that too as a kid and I felt I didn’t get that
emdr is great, darken the room and do it a lot,.. make your eyes go side to side fully, go close enough to the screen [i don't like this one] do it now, do it a lot, just do it. emdr will not hurt you,.. it integrates both sides of the brain...
Ah, please be careful. For patients with CTE you must stop as SOON as you feel discomfort. When you have necrotic tissue in your brain, overstepping your physical pain threshold can cause severe headache. But just take a little at a time :)
You didn't walk me back out of the memory you just left me there in it. Taking this one to my therapist, it's a bigger memory than i expected it to be, thought i choose a "middle" level but wow did this put me right back inside that place. To powerful to mess with alone.
For people with childhood trauma (many), EFT (tapping) has been a miracle for me (I learned though RUclips). One has to stay in the present (like EMDR) while tapping on meridians while feeling the emotions and negative beliefs that arise and the trauma is released. I have been tapping a lot for 3 weeks and I have made amazing progress and at 54 feel I can finally love myself and that is the real cure.
Oh, I see lots on here about self-administering therapies to oneself.
I can only say that I was on meds for anxiety and depression for 19 years and went to talk therapy first 5 years, but had no trauma relief as it wasn't identified. I just happened upon EFT as therapy for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and it was so successful and cleared depression that I have had to go backwards and now see it was my childhood trauma (emotional neglect in a privileged home) that has been the root of my ill mental and physical health and in clearing it myself I am so much better that it feels like a miracle.
I've honestly found this helpful for depression and have even experimented with it for physical pain. The science sounds pretty plausible to me.
You can adjust speed in setting. I've just done an experiment and the normal speed doesn't bring much relief but speed 2 did bring relief.
Hi! What do you do to adjust the speed please? Thanks!
Go to settings (the gear thing) > speed.
It depends on how to the motior you are
What if I feel the normal speed is too fast for me? Does it mean my level of PTSD and the secondary symptoms are pretty serious?
许霭月 I’m not a therapist but I’ve done a few EMDR sessions with two therapists.
I experienced a lot of frustration and upset at trying to follow the speed of the dot. I could not do it for some reason while also visualizing what I was supposed to visualize. You don’t have to use a visual stimuli to accomplish bilateral stimulation. You can use tapping, or headphones with an audio version of the bilaterals. If something about the process of EMDR gets frustrating or even retraumatizing please stop. Especially if you have a more complex trauma you should not force yourself to do it. The state of mind you’re trying to accomplish is open to anything, non judgmental towards yourself, and not trying to accomplish something in particular. It will lead you where it needs to go. It will be unexpected sometimes. Please see a therapist if you have a bunch of deep childhood traumas, and see if you can learn about protective + nurturing figures, a safe place and a container to hold your trauma until you can return to it. These things will psychologically protect you... and once they are installed will make EMDR safer. If you have a therapist you do not feel comfortable or safe with I don’t recommend you try this with them.
I dont know weather it was the video or time but watching this was the first time I was able to re live my experience without the fear and pain
I have no experience with EMDR and wanted to try it out. Following the square for about 3.5 minutes brought my stress levels right down.
Worksheet
Explanatory vid: ruclips.net/video/hKrfH43srg8/видео.html
Prep (what a practitioner would ask you):
Step 1. Explain the value of eye movements to reduce vividness of traumatic
images and provide some calming
Step 2. Obtain informed consent to use eye movements
Step 3. Optional: Teach a grounding exercise: (eye-roll, four-square, circular)
Access & activate the incident
Step 4. Describe the incident:
Tell me what happened. or Tell me what you are concerned about.
___________________________________________________________
___________________________________________________________
Step 5. Irrational belief :
When you think of that, what negative self-talk do you have?
(Offer the statements below that seem appropriate)
[ ] I’m responsible [ ] I have to be in control [ ] I have to be perfect
[ ] I’m not good enough. [ ] I’m inadequate. [ ] I’m worthless.
[ ] I’m a failure. [ ] I’m unlovable. [ ] I’m overwhelmed
[ ] I am powerless. [ ] I am going to die. [ ] I am helpless.
[ ] I am overwhelmed. [ ] I am trapped [ ] I am in danger.
[ ] I am vulnerable. [ ] I am bad. [ ] I am damaged.
[ ] I should have done something
[ ] other: ___________________________________________________
Step 6. How disturbing is that thought _________________________ on a scale from 0 (no
disturbance) to 10 (highest disturbance)?
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Step 7. Positive belief:
How would you like to think about yourself in that situation?
(Offer possible beliefs if the client has difficulty generating his/her own)
[ ] I’m okay regardless. [ ] I can accept myself. [ ] I’m good enough
[ ] I’m worthwhile [ ] I can get through it [ ] I’m lovable
[ ] I’m adequate [ ] It’s over. I survived. [ ] I can get through it.
[ ] I did the best I could. [ ] I can protect myself.
[ ] I can recognize appropriate responsibility [ ] I can control what I can
[ ] other:__________________
Step 8. On a scale from 1-7 where 1 is totally false and 7 is totally true, how true do
you think your positive thought is now?
VoC 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
Totally false Totally true
Step 9: Stop Signal: One we start the eye movements, stop me if other memories
come up or you feel any body sensations.
Step 10. Desensitize (Restricted Processing - EMD)
I’d like you to bring up the incident and your negative thoughts….now
follow my fingers. When I stop, think of the incident and tell me how
disturbing it feels. Then follow my fingers again. We’ll repeat that process as
long as the disturbance keeps changing.
a. BLS /DAS(5-10 round trips of eye movements):
b.Take a breath, think of the incident…0-10 how disturbing is it ? …….
Recording the disturbance is optional, rapid pacing is more important
____ Go with that Repeat a & b
____ Go with that Repeat a & b
____ Go with that Repeat a &
c. Take a breath, when you think of (the incident), what do you notice?……
0-10 how disturbing is it? _____Go with that. Repeat a,b,c
a. BLS/DAS (10 round trips of eye movements):
b. Take a breath, think of the incident…0-10 how disturbing is it ?
Recording the level is optional, rapid pacing is more important
____ Go with that Repeat a & b
____ Go with that Repeat a & b
____ Go with that Repeat a &
c. Take a breath, when you think of (the incident), what do you notice?……
0-10 how disturbing is it? _____Go with that. BLS/DAS Repeat a,b,c
Stop desensitization if the client uses his/her stop signal:
Once the level of disturbance no longer drops, proceed to installation
Step 11: Install and enhance VoC:
a. When you think of (incident) does your positive thought still fit or is there
a better one? If so, what fits now?
___________________________________________
b: When you think of (incident), how true is that thought feel now on a scale
from 1-7 where 1 is totally false and 7 is totally true?
___ Go with that (BLS/DAS: 10 sets)
___ Go with that (BLS/DAS: 10 sets)
c. When the VoC stops increasing, proceed to closure
Step 12: Close Session
a. Talk with the client about his/her experience
b. Remind him/her that more situations may come up, if so, seek additional
support for a mental health professional
A-TIP Treatment Summary
Targeted Incident _____________________________________________
Irrational Belief: ______________________________________________
Adaptive Belief: ______________________________________________
Starting SUD ____________ Ending SUD______________
Starting VoC ____________ Ending VoC______________
Outcome (circle one) Completed Unfinished
Closure Intervention(s) (circle those used)
None Eye-roll Four-square Circular Figure-eight Calm Place Container
Client’s Status (circle one)
Stable Excellent
12345
Treatment Notes:
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________
Additional Interventions Planned :___________________________________
______________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________
This is much better than dealing with a counselor who is not consistent and doesn’t listen. For two years I have been saying that I want to work on EMDR for a specific issue and it keeps falling by the wayside. Counselors are very difficult to find that fit specifically with people. People trained in EMDR are not necessarily fit to do it. The person I was dealing with could not focus. It was only because I could focus that it worked the few times that we were able to do it. Because of her need for control, I have not accomplished what I wanted to do. Hopefully, if you deal with an EMDR certified therapist, you will find one that is truly qualified. But if you find one where you feel that something is not right, immediately look elsewhere. Do not waste your time as I did. Thankfully, I have accomplished some resolutions but not because she was adequate. She literally was a train wreck to deal with.
Cool. I've tried taking antidepressants against depression and anxiety, but even though they made me relax a bit, they also made me unbearably tired. When searching for alternatives, I came across the very helpful and scientifically well founded book " The Instinct to Heal: Curing Depression, Anxiety and Stress Without Drugs and Without Talk Therapy" by the psychiatrist Servant-Schreiber. One of the methods he presents in his book for getting over a trauma is EMDR. The problem: in Vienna, Austria, where I live, each EMDR session costs about 170€. So, quite expensive for a rather poor student like me. I'm really surpirsed and glad at how much this youtube video is helping me. It might not be as effective as a real therapy session, but after doing this twice, I feel already much better than before. At least it has helped me much more than ADs and psychoanalysis. THANKS for uploading this!
170??? My therapist here in Italy gets 70€ per session!!! That's 2 and a half times what i pay! Who are those people, Professor X and Jean Grey? They better be telepaths for those prices.
fruchtkoerberl You might also want to investigate tapping. There's a book by Laurel Parnell, a psychologist, on tapping; she is also featured on a video on youtube using tapping with a student of hers. It's similar in that it uses bilateral stimulation, which we now know is what is needed, though it's not only eye movement that can provide it. Tapping the right and left sides of the body can do it too. And finally, you can downlowd EMDR music that will do it too.
+Shendue shes probley less professional so doesn't price as much.
MDD has nothing to do with psychoanalysis. It is a disease.
It's so sad that working on trauma is not really approved by mainstream medicine (except very obvious forms of shock trauma, as we all might know) and that it's so difficult for someone who cannot spend a lot of money for help.
My landlady has been in counselling and talk therapy her entire life. She's been abused, and a date she went on a couple years ago, the guy tried to kill her. Talk therapy never worked but she swears by this.
For those saying that you need a trained professional is simply not true. While I won't bash the professionals I am sure they will do a fine job if you hire one, I believe you don't need one. Francine Shapiro the founder of EDMR said she had discovered this technique on a walk one day and that disturbing thoughts were less powerful than before.
So to say it's dangerous is a bit of an exaggeration and may be more so to protect the industry.
In the end of the interview Francine says :
I think affect and evolution theorists could contribute here regarding
why certain experiences are ingrained and unchanged. It may be due to
certain developomental windows. It may be due to the interaction of
types of neurotransmitters and high arousal. We are biologically
determined to respond in certain ways when danger and survival fears
surface. It may be that experiences such as being humiliated in
childhood are the evolutionary equivalent of being cut out of the herd.
At any rate, if you bring those earlier experiences to mind and you get
no negative physical reaction, but adaptive/adult related thoughts
spontaneously emerge, then I would say the information is appropriately
processed.
At the end she says that if you bring these experiences to mind and you have healthy adult thoughts afterwards... you are technically in the clear.
Ace - Thank you for sharing this! It gave me a jumping point into doing more research on EMDR - and I believe I am experiencing the benefits.
So one video says to think of your life events that have harmed you while you are looking ...now here I am reading that you must think of positive thoughts...so which is it?
Totally polar opposite instructions
It can be dangerous if you get yourself into a horrible space and can’t get out by yourself. Then what? But it’s am quite safe for reinforcing positive things like, “I am safe now.”
Use your judgement. If your issue is quitting a bad habit, have at it. If it’s childhood trauma, I would recommend therapy and supervision.
And that’s not to “protect the industry” (what an oddly cynical thing to believe about people dedicated to helping others!).
I am currently reading Francine Shapiros book, the "inventor" of this technique and she advises AGAINST doing this yourself
Think of the trauma as a child and organize it as an adult .
for example, think of basic fear like getting kicked out of the herd,
then think I am an adult now, what caused the first kick out of the herd was it me or others?
,if it was not me , it was not my foult I will find another herd where I am safe now I am an adult
if it was your foult this will help u forgive and move on and learn from the mistake like hey don't insult your friends!!!! Hope it helps don't do to much at the time break it in small parts, I am not a specialist just my intuition!
Thank you for sharing this and the helpful comments below. i am new to EMDR and just starting with this now, an old childhood memory popped into my mind and I realised how traumatic it was and i'd buried so frozen it. I will use this technique via the clip above and hope to free myself of chronic shoulder pain which has at times has been very hard to live with. Thank you again
I love EMDR and used to do it with a Dr in the field for my anxiety. It is amazing the things and emotions that can come up. I also had visions and all I can say is WOW!! I do not take medication and have not for years. I do recommend a trained professional. There is also no set pattern or timing for the movements of the light. I prefer it slow and straight across but others may like a figure 8, or diagonal pattern. You can also do tapping of your foot or hands. EMDR is just amazing if done by a very competent trained professional. I highly recommend this treatment for anxiety!!
You are right to say that one needs a professional, i am in therapy al together now for 10 months yes long time and every week, but i am 45 and have al together about 8 traumaas to cope with..so far i am at number 5 does it work yess but there is also the matter of side effects that nobody here talks about...i cannot stop until everything is alterred for i have headaches extreme muscle pain and a stoned feeling in my brain...also feeling sick in the stomach and dizzyness are common...my anxiety is still not gone only replaced for a numb feeling...maby that is because i have to much to resolve, but what i mean to say here is if you are trying yourself and you keep '''hanging'' in your trauma or fear that can obstract your body or mental reactions i learned that when my therapist was not available for 2 weeks..please be wise and to everybody here i wish you good luck and mental health!
Thank you for this video, am trying to get over some traumatic events from the past and a friend told me about EMDR so am happy to give it a try.
Thank you so much for posting this video and letting us use it. You are a true blessing!!
Your Emdr tool work fine but i dont know how to use it so i prefer to use Turboemdr site and know all the process their such as installing positive believes and lowering the power of negatives ones,.
Just look on the dot alone not does anything to me without proper EMDR instructions.
this why i stop use this video.
I got EMDR from a skilled trained therapist and it change me forever. Calmer, less narcissistic tendencies, stress reduction to almost zero, ability to make healthier choices etc. That said, I also tried EMDR with a less skilled therapist and it did very little, and you will know right in the session because when it works its like time travel, where you get to inhabit the body of your younger self with ALL the feelings you had then, not just the traumatic one. BUT even with the good therapist it took a couple of sessions to get there.
Now I don't know if this self administered stuff works because there is a protocol to this in terms of talking and guiding etc. I could imagine it calms you but not sure it would address specific traumas the way a practitioner could.
If you only focus on sadness or fear it's supposed to work way better. Core-focused Emdr is supposed to be able to work within 10 minutes! Look it up on the net.
I used it on a fear I had and it went away.
+Carmen Lambert what if the fear is very confusing and complex and distressing, can it still get rid of it?
+Riley Cullen I freaked out whenever someone put their hands around my neck. I'd burst into tears go into maximum distress and sob "It's just so unfair!" There's no reason whatsoever WHY I should have had that reaction. But it went away anyway. I just closed my eyes, thought about what upset me and moved my eyes (still closed) back and forth until the fear went away. It still hasn't come back. I recommend you read Debbie Ford's book "The secret of the shadow" It's for working through what caused the fear in the first place. That really works for me too.
This really helped thank you!!!
Two weeks ago I had my first EMDR session with a therapist. I was taken by surprise to say the least of the awareness that surfaced. Not really memories for me but a sifting away of denial and the release of a burden I had been carrying for a long time. Afterward I felt space within myself that has not left me. I am sold on this method and would like to know if it is beneficial doing it alone.
EMDR is an amazing way to take the charge out of Traumatic Events current or past. I have been doing it in combination with therapy and what I can say unequivocally is that without it I would still be sitting in the chair. Today I do it every couple of weeks on my own with my own machine sound/tactile and it changes my attitude and reaction levels completely. Highly recommended for UN packing your trauma/addiction backpack...
Allegra Antenucci Hi there, where did you get your own emdr machine? i had one session for prsd and ocd but was unable to continue due to cost and moving to a new place, do you think there is anything really good on the internet that can help? the one time i did emdr it was with head phones and a large light momevemnt bar. thanks
jerelea dionne You can download music that works too. I think it's Mark Grant ... on amazon with some EMDR music. I do think anyone who is really troubled should use a qualified professional at least to begin
Also, for anyone who wants a LOT of information about EMDR, including a story of one person using it by herself, check out behavior net online. Do a google search for "behavior net online EMDR" and it should bring up a now-closed discussion forum, hosted by Sandra Paulson that has extensive information about EMDR. I found it fascinating and very educational. There is one long thread about a woman who had to do it on her own.
And in the meantime ; ) you can download some music to use with headphones.
Wishing you well.
I've done EMDR on and off for a few years this is cool but what would be so much better is if the promps were read instead of flashed on the screen. It's hard to focus and follow the box when you have to look away to read what just popped up or even if you don't need to read them cause you know the procedure.
they must have taken that down. All i see are flashing boxes.
I was hit by a car in 1998. I was riding my mountain bike. The car was going between 50-60mph. Therapist friend in New York suggested EMDR about ten years ago. Research has found EMDR to benefit those suffering PTSD. I developed unatual fears after my accident. I found a therapist that utilized EMDR (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and anger management), along with more traditional therapy (talking). I no longer go to the therapist. Its been a couple years. I am not sure if EMDR was that effective. However, some of the fears I had before going to the therapist, seemed to subside a bit. I still have one unnatural fear that haunts me. I wish to god it would go away ha. I found this youtube clip a couple days ago. I never thought to look on youtube for EMDR. I am going to experiment with this "self-administered EMDR" and other videos i found on youtube. This one fear i have, just will not go away haha. Thank you
Try Holographic Kinetics. It works with your Spirit to identify the original cause of any trauma you have ever experienced in any existence as well as inherited. If EMDR is not clearing it - it only works with your Soul (and Soul is memory) - than there may be many other aspects you are dealing with, one being that the accident may have activated a trauma from a previous life or was passed down the genetic line, there may be inter-dimensional interference, etc. I recommend EMDR and/or EFT to my clients if there is delay in them being able to see me for an appointment, to assist them to lessen the charge on the trauma in the meantime. I will not be back to engage in back and forth as this Video is about EMDR. If you wish to contact me visit my RUclips Channel or website: hyperdimensionalhealing.com
wow my brain turns off! i need to do this more, im concentrating on that then history floats away, makes me feel calm.
litterally helps me forget everything clears my mind of negative thoughts with instant effect!
This is the best one of them all. The jerkiness of it really does have my eye muscle working in the right way. The smooth ones make my overall eyes feel sore, this one seems like just the part thats moving my eyes get affected.
This is because this is a mix of discrete and continuous motion.
Let's see......some folks are making a living providing EMDR therapy. Now there is a short video on the topic purporting to be useful to the average Joe. So those same therapists are unhappy. They say self treatment is dangerous, useless, etc., etc. Well...........it is also free. And lots of people aren't ever going to have the luxury of a therapist. My intuition tells me that this is a lot less dangerous than booze--the treatment all too many people resort to. Another popular regimen--EFT--has been successfully used by a lot of lay people, and it has elements of EMDR. I"m referring to the nine gamut sequence in EFT. So those of you with nerves of steel might just want to try this EMDR video and judge for yourselves. Rebel sheeple!!! lol
safebot There are dangers everywhere. People should be prepared accept the consequences f of their actions. It's a notion quite alien to a lot of people. Most people will not have easy access to a therapist--that is especially true when it comes to EMDR. One can, of course, go to an MD and get a handful of pills. That's certainly an easy route.
I don't know if this video is dangerous, but I've tried it and I also see an EMDR therapist and for me there's no comparison. The video on its own has very little effect. Therapy with a good, trained therapist is extremely powerful. I realise that's frustrating for anyone who can't access an EMDR therapist, but for anyone who can and feels the need, I'd encourage them to do so.
+Kayakwinds hows it dangerous?
The back and forth eye movement of EMDR is supposed to mimic REM when we sleep to process memories- and that is something we naturally do ourselves without any therapist...
I have lived in an emotional hell for a very long time now. I'm sure that won't get any worse by trying this out. Thank you for uploading.
Having been there and done that. I was surprise to see this on RUclips. It's a great tool ONLY for those who have already been there with someone on the other end asking the right questions in order to direct you in the right path. Those who have tried it know how it can become frustrating as ever. And the real therapy sessions can cost from $150 an hour to $250 an hour depending upon the experienced therapist has had in the past and knowing the capabilities that must go with each session(s). Some therapist have not gone into this area of psychology because they themselves know of the responsibility that goes with each session for each individual they are working with in healing. And although once healed. The patient can actually help themselves in a small meditation manner once a month.
I tried this on a childhood trauma first and experience very vivid dreams so something is happening. So far tried it 8 or 9 times
Your dreams were foggy or dissociated before right? I think I do remember vivid dreams the first time I tried this a year ago. Returned after 1-2years because I've just been coping and I need to heal.
When I was 2 years old I was the victim of severe physical abuse that went on for 2 years. Ive been in EMDR therapy for the last year and It has changed my life. I have used this video for the last 6 months as a supplement to my time in the chair with a professional. There are times when I need to process memories and Its simply easier to sit down at home and do the work than call in and visit my therapist. This is an extremely useful video but I only recommend using it to process trauma if you're actively working with a professional who can better point you in the right direction. Without my therapists help this video would be useless. EMDR is a complicated process and you will need professional guidance and EMDR sessions to fully understand how to make this video work to help you.
Thank you gunzup64. Have a beautiful life!
Can you give us some tips and tricks? How did your therapist guide you in the process? I would like to suggest this to my own therapist.
There is a set of questions that the therapist asks. You have to be willing to tell the therapist what your mind's picture is showing you. It's not that simple, nor is the technique. And you need to put a trust with the therapist as well, because that is the first thing that needs to happened if you REALLY want to move forward. There is no TRICKS period. Silly idea in the first place. Really! The therapist are trained for so many years before they get the degree in EMRD along with psychology degree.
Leyla Sousou The biggest problem with my disorder is that I had severe disassociative amnesia of the events that were causing me to have anxiety and panic attacks. So for me a lot of the time I have no idea what memories processing will dig into. If I get anxiety, panic, depression, or feel strong emotion towards an event I come home and sit in front of this video and focus on the event, the feeling it gave me, and the negative cognition about myself it made me feel i.e. i'm weak, I can't protect myself, I shameful, I'm not worth being loved etc. Then when I have it cleary in my mind I watch the moving lights without moving my head and the processing happens. Ill process for 30 seconds to 3 minutes at a time and just keep going until my mind feels clear or exhausted and I feel ive gotten to the core of what was making me feel bad. It usually results in hours of me doing this and I almost always cry deeply. The traumatic events and the vast majority of my issues surrounded things that took place with my closest family members. The process is very similar in the chair with my therapist, but he's much better at directing the processing and knowing what's behind my emotions.
Yours was the most helpful comment I've read here so far. Thank you.
People want to know if they can do EMDR on their own! I always suggest to the people I work with that being informed is especially important. I always suggest that to reduce the chance or re-traumatization, that people first work with a trained and EXPERIENCED EMDR mental health therapist! Initially, the traumatic material can be overpowering. People can experience feelings, sights, sounds, smells and physical sensations as if they are in the traumatic situation - again! With that level of experiencing, it is important to be with someone who helps make sure that the process is going as it should and that you are not getting STUCK in the memories and trauma, not getting re-traumatized! Then after the difficult stuff is out of the way - often in as little as 3 sessions - you can determine if you want to try it on your own. EMDR is great for many things, not just trauma. For example, if you have a presentation at work and want to be more relaxed, it works wonders as a way to calm down and get perspective a few days before the presentation. Is also good for grief, sadness writers block, social anxiety. It works for anything where there is ANXIETY that gets in the way of living, working or loving in your best life! It does work. But be smart, work with a professional first!
You expect to much from professionals, some of them suck, while folks at home aren't all stupid. My therapist left me in stage 3; read the Wikipedia Page NEVER STOP ON PHASE 3. "we're about out of time here"....
For some reason moving our eyes back and forth or looking up in corners of eyes helps to release old somatic traumas stuck in the nervous system. It happens in little chunks for me.
Do you get shaking or spasming? I heard that was one sign of it. What other bodily effects do you observe? I don't know if it's helping, I think I might've discharged a little. My most common experience is heavy breathing, it's like my breathing gets into a deeper breathing trance and I get a strange feeling. Later on I might get small shaking tho it could be tensed muscles for me. I kinda feel lighter maybe, not sure.
This has too much distraction for me. Moving the eyes back and forth somewhat faster than this is not hard to learn to do without an aid of any sort. Anyone can learn this part of EMDR safely. Anyone needing to see a therapist should as soon as possible. The eye movement alone can assist, lowering tension, etc. without a therapist present. I was certified in EMDR in 1991 and have years of experience in teaching people how to do it for themselves. It is safe to learn and very effective. The energy of the eye movement hitting the sensory cortex of the brain triggers healing in brain functioning at the neuro energy level.
Why cant u just get real with me
Becky Wheaton who are you?
lol
So you mean I could do it without any video, just moving my eyes? Thanks
Richard have you had any experience with CTE patients? I am looking into it right now as I am close to someone with CTE and I am thinking that this will be an option to force the brain to make new connections! :)
Amazing, I had a deep feeling of stress and after 5 minutes of looking at the boxes. i started feeling better and was smiling
This definetely works. Ive tried it on things that trigger me and with 5-10min i no longer feel the same way.
EMDR can bring up tremendously painful traumatic memories. I would not advise doing it without a competenly certified EMDR therapist and I would recommend emotional stability when doing the treatments. I had great success with a certified therapist, but could not have tolerated on my own or had as successful conclusions without the therapist's guidance.
I was successfully treated with the alternating vibrating nodes to help my irrational fear of demons after childhood trauma in being raised Catholic
Where do i find the ‘instruction’ on what I am supposed to do during this self administered EMDR? Thanks
Just think about the negatieve stuff in the past and try to replace it with the ability that you can handle it or something positive. If this doesn't work it will mean that the root cause is deeper and that you will have to dig deeper (if you want) or go to a professional and let them do it. Choice is yours. Good luck!
Do I watch it go back and forth or do I focus on the middle ??
@@GilbysMom you follow it :)
It would be more effective if the Instruction was verbalized than written as one cannot follow the squares when asked to follow the instructionnamaste
na na i correct you there as hearing is one your strongest senses and that would derail you from vision.. read it before hand and get aquatinted ;)
I dont hear any instructions
Where are the instruction?
Wtf are you talking about? There are no instructions anywhere
@@KT-ed8hj thank you!!
I felt weird After doing it. I stopped at the 4 min mark because my eyes and head started hurting. I felt strange after but a hr later I feel really good. Imma keep doing and see how it helps my anxiety
And how did it go thereafter?
@@refiloendlovu6518 it actually helped
There is a another EMDR on RUclips with a green dot going back and forth. I found that one better than this one and all others. It also has bilateral sounds as the dot goes back and forth. I would recommend that one. EMDR helps. I know quite a bit about it. And the green dot video will provide results. Hope this helps to all.
Not sure if you can be your own therapist. I've had one or two moments that were confusing and where the therapist needed to repeat the question. That's be scary if you're all alone and trying to calm yourself down. Also, my eye-movement was wáy faster, wáy wáy faster, like 2 seconds to go from left to right and back to left. The slower the movement is, the longer you're in the 'uncomfortable moment' before the feelings are gone and you can prepare for the next question/step.
I'd stick with a real person, if you ask me.
you can speed up the video with youtube... I tried all speeds... x2 was pretty good. What happens is that my peripheral vision starts to come into play and this meditative state that allows me to think comes in to play. It's like everything compulsive in me just shuts down and I can micromanage, organize, and compose myself. I've had moments like this in life where I am able to think in these meditative states, but now I can do this every morning and evening or whenever a craving hits me.
My only beef with the video is that its too short. Would love to see a 10 hour upload.
Revisit a memory of a traumatic incident while following the movements on the screen with your eyes (stimulating both sides of the brain).
“When the memory is brought to mind, the feelings are re-experienced in a new way. The power that the "knot" held over the person fades away.” -Suite 101
“…EMDR clients also learn to replace negative thoughts (such as “I’ll never get this job”) with more positive thoughts (such as “I can get this job if I try hard enough”).” Scientific American
I really, really feel better after doing this.
Thank you very much.
As an EMDR trained therapist, this is not EMDR therapy. This is simply eye movements. Actual EMDR therapy has specific protocols that are intended to be done in conjunction with the bilateral stimulation. Otherwise, what are you reprocessing? Understanding of course that therapy with a private therapist is expensive, doing a treatment incorrectly can cause more problems than it solves. Simply doing eye movements without specific focus or plan is not likely going to produce the results that doing it in a clinical setting with a properly trained clinician will. Check with your health insurance as this is covered by most health insurance carriers. You can also find sliding scale therapists through Open Path Therapy Collective.
I noticed that my mind stopped thinking too much, my breathing got slower and deeper, making me relax more and more. This SCIENTIFICALLY BASED therapy really works, dear friends. We actually can do this on ourselves without this RUclips video. But this video can help us get comfortable with this therapy. God bless us all.
What about things like stored traumas and the effects of past traumas? Do you or does anyone know if this video will help with that?
I absolutely noticed my breathing get deeper just like you said, almost like a trance. My body (maybe just tensed muscles?) spasmed or had minor shaking. I kinda feel lighter, less burdened I think. There's a subtle hint of happiness or hope but I don't know if that's just relaxation from the video or a permanent effect.
i feel immediately calmer tracking this despite not doing the tapping or the visualing.like an eye massage lol
Continuous below:(focuses our attention to tri-dimensions, the distance between objects, perspective).
This is a way to get into it. To focus our attention in the now. The five senses (hear, see, taste, touch, smell) can help us to get into the here and now.This allows us to have access to our higher mental capacity as written above , our life becames immediately lighter .
Hi Michal
EMDR with the right protocols can be very powerful.
This is just bi-lateral stimulation. Sound via headphones
and tactile stimulation works also.
tanks! that will be in my belly. This therapy is helping me a lot with my panic attacks. Neuroacustic songs and brainspotting therapy helps too!
Thanks for this. Do you have a downloadable version?
I'm diagnosed D.I.D. so can't recover in a vacumme, if I try to only ever be my own therapist then I'll end up being a narcissist...saving this video for open eye hypnosis but yeh....shrugging awkward silence...
"Pay close attention to these blocks while we put the text YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO READ across the screen!" ......
that's true
I haven't actually done it yet. I'll let you know when I do
+Our Happy Homeschool I am new to this. There is text involved? I don't see anything except for lines, but none of them look like letters.
Max Lloyd Eriksen Yea they added text at 1:22
+Max Lloyd Eriksen That's really strange. It clearly says "Continue to allow your present higher mental capacity to assist and guide you while you assimilate different thoughts and emotions." Right there at 1:26 (I was wrong on the time)
am trying it to help with my PTSD>
+Kirk Davis how did it work out for you?
*hug*
Evan Henneman - I doesn’t work for mine but Cognitive Processing helped.
Thank you so much for your time uploading this, helps tremendously 💖
I speed it up to 2 and it goes much faster and I think better for the brain. 👍
Thank you so much. This is a wonderful resource.
while doing eye movement with the guide of this video, do you have to remember the traumatic event or think about the potential cause that necessitated the need for EMDR or just following the eye movement in this video will be helpful?
I have the same question.
I have the same question.
@@sjz1254 me too
thank you. I'm a PTSD survivor and I thought the expensive therapist might be on to something but was moving really slow.
I want to provide a warning if you consider using EMDR on your own. EMDR can open memories, including memories of prior abuse that have been repressed. I know because this happened to me when I was working with a therapist. Enough of the details were verified following EMDR to confirm that what I was recalling was accurate and it was ghastly. If you suspect in any way that you may have memories you cannot retrieve because you were severely abused, do not use EMDR on your own. What you uncover could be extremely traumatizing and you will not have the support and expertise you need. EMDR also helps to process the trauma to reduce the extreme emotional impact, but you need someone trained in case you are unable to complete that piece. You can end up in a very bad place. It was hard for me to get through opening my trauma and I had a therapist with more than 10 years of experience in using EMDR.
Ok and survivors are extremely strong people...they survived
This is correct. I’m sorry you went through that. I hope people do heed your warning and at least start with a therapist so they will know what this can be like and have coping skills in place in case things go wrong. 💜
Whe you focus on the squares only it becomes 3D. Not sure if it was designed this way but cool!
EMDR therapy CAN be a very effective tool; however, it is important NOT to do it without an EMDR therapist as you can activate traumatic material and be unable to resolve it, making whatever feelings you are trying to heal actually much worse. If you think EMDR therapy can help you, go to EMDRIA's website to find a trained therapist.
In this way, we stop identifying with our thoughts, trauma, etc.it's a strange thing, is a way through which we can delete the files that no longer serve us in our brain, like when we press delete in a hard disk.
I think this is interesting as one could use it instead of paying hundreds of pounds for a light box thanks for posting. I am a counsellor and have trained in EMDR but don’t use very often as find moving my hand from side to side is tiring for my arm etc
this is interesting, because i had noticed shaking in my body a couple times as i was trying to not let a negative emotion control me..it was like it took so much effort to let go my body actually shook, i felt that i was releasing its hold
Okay my comment seems to have disappeared so I will re-write it. This can be dangerous for some people. Over the last 20 years researchers have refined the process of EMDR to be safer and safer as it can be very distruptive to someone's functioning if the have suffered significant trauma. It is to be done as part of an 8 step procedure with a therapist over multiple sessions.
Yes, It CAN be dangerous for some people. However, remember that Francine Shapiro, who founded EMDR, stumbled on this by doing a simple process on herself, and found herself freed from the charged emotions. Her research over the years helped to get more out of the process, so that is good as well. Best to education oneself quite well before choosing either path. Sometimes simple therapies get overly complex over time, which only serves to make it inaccessible and a rarified process. Truth and relief doesn't have to be a complex matter. My opinions only.....
Jed Smith well said
Try it right away; for 10 mins a day for a week,... don't wait... darken the room..... I now play emdr while I listen to guided meditations 2hrs a week or more. GO DO IT NOW. and tell everyone else to start.
1.) If you experience eye pain STOP IMMEDIATELY. (RARE) But do not continue with eye pain.
2.) Take of glasses and contacts.
3.) If you are diagnosed with a Dissociative Disorder DO NOT DO EMDR WITHOUT A HIGHLY TRAINED EMDR SPECIALIST
Be aware you may be Dissociative and not know it. This is why you should be do this with trained professionals or learn a lot before you attempt this.
4.) Don't ignore 1-3 SERIOUSLY
Disclaimer* I have used this and have had out of this world results. EMDR is amazing and I highly recommend it.
I am not an emdr therapist however I read the EMDR Protocol book by Francine Shapiro (the person who discovered & developed this) and its important you understand some things instead of winging this.
Seriously don't ignore those 3 steps above and pls go back & re read them.
Wonderful job on this video. Thank you :-)
no matter how much i read about it, no matter how it is explained to me, no matter how long i sit here staring at these boxes, i don't see how this is supposed to help severe trauma. and yes, i've done more than read comments. i can't get past what happened to me and i can't have some white boxes help anything at all.
This is really only one part of a much larger program. Maybe you don’t resonate with eye movements, maybe you’d do better with bodily sensations or sounds. If you can possibly figure out how to get an appointment with a therapist that does EMDR that’s your best bet. If you have health insurance the huge price tags you see on here often do not apply. You’ll pay a copay. If you don’t have health insurance many therapists charge a much discounted “cash rate” which they don’t usually advertise. You honestly owe it to yourself to check this out in a real setting if you have multiple intense traumas to work through.
It sure helped me-try it again or a different video. Try it gain, don't give up.There is reason why you tried it, hang in there and good luck.
so far just brings back painful thoughts I forgot during a specific memory.. I don't understand how this can benefit anybody
Alan, it doesn't do you any good to lie during EMDR. or any kind of therapy. If you can't be honest what's the point, right?! What would you lose by being honest, 110% honest, in therapy?
If you didn't know what emdr was you would not be worried or think anything bad was going to happen. Everyone had a choice to stay or leave. I have a past of intense abuse and this did nothing to me because I only watched it for about 30 seconds but even so I was never really worried about it. Have you ever seen Newton's Cradle? Always saw these as a kid and it's the same eye movement and no one ever worried about it.
Why are there no instructions?? Very bizarre to have EMDR but no instructions.
So appreciative for the work done here for those of us suffering from any kind of loss. I’ve referred to rem many times over the years & got consistent aid.
Thank you so much for posting this!!!
Thank you. I'm willing to see if it works.
+robertocarnivali
What should I/we be thinking about during this? Should I try to clear my mind? What are the recommendations?
Charles Pruett as far as i understand, you should recall traumatizing memories during eye movemnt sessions. the eye movement enables reprocessing capacities in a rather mechanical way, compared to speech therapy, enabling your brain to reevaluate and decouple those memories from triggering fear. it also seems to not be clear, why this works.
Like dynomite939 said: try to imagine a specific moment in the past that forms part of your 'trauma'. Focus on the image. Try to feel how you felt, facing what you had to face. Are you anxious? Sad? Angry? Where do you feel this, physically? Focus on the physical feeling. What colour fits what you're feeling now? Try to imagine this colour, flowing through your body.
This is how my hypnotherapist guided me. It was extremely helpful. And personally, I always try to see the image (mental or real) as symbolic. Make it mean something.
@@dynomite939 this is contradictory to what my therapist did. we were working on positive mindfulness and she stopped the emdr (buzzers in each hand) when trauma surfaces so as to not program it in with the body. So I'm confused what to do now...
The pace of the squares moving seems very fast, but perhaps this is the rate that is needed. I would personally like to have a slower rate, does it make a difference?
+Cassandra's Counseling It does make a difference, for each person it's different. Mine is wáy faster, about 5 times as fast and I prefer the light-method, without sounds or tapping or such things.
It also depends how far you're away from the light/screen/etc. But I have to mention, it's best to always have someone else (the therapist) there to guide you trough this. If you're doing this for serious reasons and serious trauma, you need to have a professional there. It can make you confused, or if you're doing it wrong and not focussing right (as in, going báck and re-living the moment instead of only describing the moment) you need someone to stop you and say; 'No, you're not in that position anymore, you're here now and you're doing fine, it's alright.' Because you can't comfort yourself if you panic or lose controll over something.
@@Widdekuu91 You are not supposed to be talking or describing anything during active EMDR sessions. It's EMDR, not hypnosis.
@@drakulian7456
Not dúring the EMDR, but before and after, you are.
You describe the scene. Find the most painful moment. Use the light. Speak about it. Use the light. Speak. Light. Speak. Light. Check up on the amount of stress that is left. Etc.
Credo che per i piccoli traumi( ricordi di offese o insulti etc..) si possa fare anche da soli ma per i traumi gravi(violenze terremoti etc ) allora bisogna farlo con un terapeuta.
shapiro founded this therapy by accident and found it useful....
Turn off the annotations. They should have mentioned that it is not a part of the video. Would make it easier.
Oh you mean she didn't have a professional EMDR therapist administer it to her? Oh my she must have really jacked her mind up that first time.
my eyes burn sooooo bad. i had a bad experience with lasik years ago all i can think about is the pain in my corneas
good therapy for stress reduction.. thanks
Is this like being your own lawyer and having a fool for a client?
+Faustus
Hmm.....good question ;)
Idk are you a fool??
neuroscientists provide evidence for the technique so no fooling here
I use audio beeps rather than eye movements. Works better for me.
I need instructions on how to do this effectively. Am I supposed to think of anything or focus on the video?
Wooowww amazing ! Thank you for sharing !! Some things are better emdr’ed than intergrated 😅
thanks for taking the time to post this