EMDR Therapy Demonstration: Phases 1-8

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  • Опубликовано: 5 янв 2025

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  • @Beardyvlogger
    @Beardyvlogger 4 года назад +245

    Thanks I've been nervous about what a session would entail, now I'm more comfortable going into this. Kudos to the patient for allowing this to be shown publically. Know that you are helping so many people out, thank you for sharing this part of your life with us.

    • @BadHandmaid
      @BadHandmaid Год назад +3

      She was so brave to be so vulnerable!

    • @kadagirl1
      @kadagirl1 11 месяцев назад +1

      Why hasn’t she mentioned panic. Wouldn’t that be the first feeling.

    • @CiaraAndrews94
      @CiaraAndrews94 9 месяцев назад

      I’m 4 years late to this comment, but, I hope it worked out for you. I’m gonna look into this for myself

  • @carolinahill28
    @carolinahill28 3 года назад +235

    Phase 1: Client History (1:05)
    Phase 2: Preparation (4:21)
    Phase 3: Assessment (15:48)
    Phase 4: Desensitization (19:25)
    Phase 5: Installation (43:35)
    Phase 6: Body Scan (49:36)
    Phase 7: Closure (56:40)
    Phase 8: Reevaluation (57:44)

    • @pepitagimenez3813
      @pepitagimenez3813 3 года назад +7

      Useful, thank you!

    • @inthevortex-de1rh
      @inthevortex-de1rh 3 года назад +8

      Thank you so much, exactly what I needed. Very helpful to have it in writing!

    • @sidraali5674
      @sidraali5674 3 года назад +1

      Can it be done in a single session

    • @beatrizweck6457
      @beatrizweck6457 2 года назад +1

      thanks 👍

    • @robinforman8235
      @robinforman8235 2 года назад +4

      What about individuals that are legally blind, can you help them or find a way to adapt the process? People with special needs in varying degrees could use this also and modifications would be needed regarding communication in the therapeutic process. I have observed a lot and read a great deal. I feel EMDR with very patient therapists with a Special Education/ ASL/Braile in an otherwise ignored part of our population may need this type of mental health intervention.

  • @namelessnick9791
    @namelessnick9791 4 года назад +166

    I tried EMDR with my therapist for the first time a few days ago and I am so surprised at how vividly I remembered my emotions during my trauma. I even cried pretty hard which I found unexpected.

    • @vanessamiles9047
      @vanessamiles9047 3 года назад +2

      @Beanz Burrito Keep going with it... the worst tasting medicine works the best! Good luck!

    • @vanessamiles9047
      @vanessamiles9047 3 года назад

      EMDR is awesome. Keep going!

    • @lkasjddasjlk4350
      @lkasjddasjlk4350 2 года назад

      OMG ME TOO

    • @Rollwithit699
      @Rollwithit699 2 года назад +1

      Did the crying make you feel better or worse? Crying always gives me migraines and makes me depressed. I avoid it whenever possible. Did it help...

  • @stevenreichertart
    @stevenreichertart 6 лет назад +139

    Thank you so much for demonstrating this technique. I cried so much when she yelled daddy and raised her arm. That is a real breakthrough and getting unstuck from this trauma.

    • @cynstandish9109
      @cynstandish9109 6 лет назад

      Steven Reichert does this really work for sra survivors

    • @stevegreen243
      @stevegreen243 6 лет назад +3

      I'm amazed it took so long.. 15 minutes maximum is all that is needed... not sure why this was so drawn out... as if the original trauma wasn't bad enough but to go through it again for this long? 15 minutes is really more than enoug time to have completely resolved this issue.

    • @yahyahyor
      @yahyahyor 6 лет назад +40

      @@stevegreen243um what? who are you to say her trauma wasn't that bad? we each experience pain relatively, in different ways and at varying degrees and some people do need more time. maybe it was "drawn out" because she actually wanted to be thorough and help this woman.. i know a lot of doctors and psychologists are just in the field to get paid, but some of them actually want to see clients healing.

    • @WatchPrayAlways
      @WatchPrayAlways 6 лет назад +2

      +Steven Reichert hearing and seeing that was very moving to me as well!!

    • @le_th_
      @le_th_ 6 лет назад +13

      I cried, too....also when she began coughing I started to cry for the child so long ago who must have been so terrified in the moment.
      I also JUMPED when she called out "god!". I wasn't ready for her to say anything. lol (and I'm an atheist-leaning agnostic lol)

  • @Solangl
    @Solangl 6 лет назад +145

    I love the therapist. Her voice, the way she sounds, calming.

  • @peacefreedom4930
    @peacefreedom4930 5 лет назад +801

    I’m looking into EMDR for C-PTSD. My therapist will need superhuman arms to wave me through all of the trauma I’ve experienced.

    • @Tchimewrinou
      @Tchimewrinou 5 лет назад +35

      Leslie Sinclair got a laugh there! Same here, starting first session tomorrow

    • @sabrinaflipse7732
      @sabrinaflipse7732 5 лет назад +16

      they also use a small pulsing disk like thing/electronic tool that you hold in your hands, that does the same thing.

    • @GLesbihonest
      @GLesbihonest 5 лет назад +5

      I hear you! Same here.

    • @peacefreedom4930
      @peacefreedom4930 5 лет назад +5

      Renita Mouton wondering how the EMDR is going

    • @MrDominic600
      @MrDominic600 5 лет назад +2

      Renita Mouton how are you now?

  • @merlottime1794
    @merlottime1794 6 лет назад +186

    This works. I didn’t expect it to work. But I can think of my trauma without feeling any pain now.

    • @julietrauben7765
      @julietrauben7765 6 лет назад +5

      Merlot Time That’s Wonderful!!! Congrats great hard work!!!

    • @asmith4078
      @asmith4078 5 лет назад +1

      ❤️

    • @tylerpearson1200
      @tylerpearson1200 5 лет назад +10

      I was recommended it by my therapist. I had a traumatic event I went thru at my workplace and I've been stuck for 9 months now. Anxiety/Depression/Insomnia/intrusive thoughts/OCD obessive thoughts, hoping this works.

    • @blockbusterlady5993
      @blockbusterlady5993 5 лет назад +9

      Really?
      I start my first session in 2 days and I'm not sure what to think of it and I feel very uncomfortable with the thought of being face to face with someone for an hour staring at their fingers.
      I am somewhat terrified.

    • @aquamarine0023
      @aquamarine0023 4 года назад

      @I am Jack's Smirking RUclips Account - Love your Fight Club screen name :-) Did you go to that he EMDR session? What did you think about it? I'm just learning about this and my first impression is that this is pretty ridiculous and ineffective Hocus pocus...BUT I realize I'm only just learning about it so I will keep my mind open to it and learning more.

  • @eylulmus
    @eylulmus 4 года назад +39

    I closed my eyes and listen to her like she is doing the therapy to me. I’ve bust into tears at the middle and at the end. It was powerful. Thank you.

    • @pipinovelo1505
      @pipinovelo1505 3 года назад +2

      funciona? como te sentiste? does it work?? how did you feel?

    • @suddenimpulse030
      @suddenimpulse030 Год назад

      you aren't supposed to do this at home.

    • @eylulmus
      @eylulmus Год назад +1

      @@suddenimpulse030why?

    • @eylulmus
      @eylulmus Год назад +1

      @@pipinovelo1505not sure if it worked. Just felt very emotional.

    • @Insp.CountMortisWinshipKlaw
      @Insp.CountMortisWinshipKlaw Месяц назад

      @@eylulmus Did it work?

  • @2011micha
    @2011micha 5 лет назад +89

    I used EMDR to process childhood and adult traumas. I have been very successful in my life since addressing those traumas 2 years ago . I am very thankful to this technique in calming me

    • @jaritamccully3797
      @jaritamccully3797 5 лет назад +3

      michelle clermont wow, I could use that. Is it a specialty technique or can any therapist do this?

    • @2011micha
      @2011micha 5 лет назад +3

      Jarita McCully they are trained specifically on the method . Search Emdr therapist

    • @blockbusterlady5993
      @blockbusterlady5993 5 лет назад

      Even after so much time passing,it hasn't worn off?You are still feeling better from doing this therapy?I start my first session in 2 days.

    • @2011micha
      @2011micha 5 лет назад +1

      ThankYouG0d6! IAmLove yes I am still far calmer than I have ever been in my life. I still startle sometimes and some can sense anxiety in me but based on where I was and where I am now it’s nothing

    • @nutellaking6845
      @nutellaking6845 4 года назад

      How many sessions of EMDR did you have and how many memories did you work in on one session?

  • @ckherrington3
    @ckherrington3 6 лет назад +216

    I got trapped under a wave a few times back when I lived in Hawaii and it scared the crap out of me, not to the point where I’m scared of pools and the ocean shore. But I recently tried to go snorkeling in The Bahamas and I completely panicked. My bf did not understand at all. Once you feel you can’t breathe for a second and that panic sets in, it’s very difficult to overcome.

    • @le_th_
      @le_th_ 6 лет назад +14

      That is because ALL of our brains are wired for survival. Anything that truly threatens our life will get imprinted on the brain, and when it does that it's called trauma. Often we don't even realize it until the NEXT TIME we are in a similar situation and then freak out (and no on-looker can figure out why we are "over-reacting" to the current situation...when the brain is remembering the PAST situation that threatened our ability to go on living).

    • @kevinwaelkens1195
      @kevinwaelkens1195 5 лет назад +3

      @Rick1979 No. She needs to explain her boyfriend what happened so next time he can adapt to the situation and help her to calm down. Don't blame it on him. Just don't blame it on anyone.

    • @lizmyers469
      @lizmyers469 5 лет назад +4

      I have the same issue. 32 years old have tried to Scuba Dive twice. Took me about 30 minutes the first time to make it 20 feet down and had to immediately come back up. Just tried again in Oahu and immediate panic attack again. I recall almost drowning from a wave that took me as a child in San Diego. Totally forgot about that memory until trying to rack my brain recently as to why I cant do it and that memory came back up. Going to look into emdr because I really want to scuba dive.

    • @channalmath8628
      @channalmath8628 5 лет назад

      @Rick1979 no.

  • @kasgo
    @kasgo 5 лет назад +78

    This is so beautiful, so moving. I was with the lady throughout the process. I felt her fear, her anger, her anxiety. Her whole body was so tense for so long. The meltdown made me smile, smile through my tears. What a courage to do it all in public. My sincere congratulations. I am very grateful to both ladies. Thank you for making this video.

  • @hellraiser3124
    @hellraiser3124 5 лет назад +46

    The “I’m here” and “I survived” made me so happy to hear!!!!

  • @StressRUs
    @StressRUs 2 года назад +28

    Thanks for this and to Elanor Shapiro for EMDR discovery. As a practicing psychiatrist, I referred over 100 of my patients to psychotherapists trained in EMDR for trauma resolution, but only now have come to realize that I, too, am a trauma survivor, that my lifelong "night terrors" were actually reliving dreams from attempted rapes by an uncle when visiting him, and that I've had all the symptoms of PTSD all my life. Now, at 77, I'm retired and a recovered alcoholic/addict, and attend 4-9 AA mtg's/wk. I am impressed with the emotional "holding" in this video and in my AA mtg's, which allowed me to finally have the definitive reliving dream, share it with many others without shame, and even speak of it in meetings. A few oldtimers scolded me gently for bring "outside issues" into our meetings, but they don't realize how many of us trauma survivors are in AA/NA meetings and used alcohol and other drugs to escape the pain and fear residual from that childhood trauma. Stress R Us

  • @ashleyboots3386
    @ashleyboots3386 4 года назад +27

    This video made me cry. It seems so possible now to process all of the trauma I've experienced in my life. Thank you so much for sharing this with the world!

  • @mariarodriguez-hq2ed
    @mariarodriguez-hq2ed 6 лет назад +152

    Excellent video of proper technique of EMDR! I am a therapist and trained in EMDR ...good refresher for me! Thanks

    • @BenDovaAlready
      @BenDovaAlready 5 лет назад +4

      looks like bullshit to me

    • @brianbcpryor112
      @brianbcpryor112 5 лет назад +2

      I did this with my therapist....& It seems more hypnotic??? I get the process but it id still.....Hypnotic&somewhat meditation....I appreciate therapist however, I will still believe in my own instincts, not what you believe with a tactic_technique trigger points....

    • @bayadekkar9845
      @bayadekkar9845 5 лет назад

      Samira Tv

    • @kevinhaley4160
      @kevinhaley4160 5 лет назад +15

      @@BenDovaAlready I can tell by your comment you are very well informed and have done a good deal of research on EMDR. Come to think of it ... you obviously don't even know what bullshit looks like. Go to a pasture that has cows in it ... walk around for a while ... then take a look at your left shoe, then your right shoe ... and do that over and over. Now you'll get an idea of what bullshit looks like.

    • @erinm3567
      @erinm3567 5 лет назад +1

      @@brianbcpryor112 I am concerned a little too because I think it might be hynotic and I wouldn't be comfortable with that personally.

  • @ghopkins7928
    @ghopkins7928 6 лет назад +169

    The therapists hand movements are like a wiping away...a cleaning... a rubbing away....a polishing the "dirt" off the brain/memory

    • @TahshaRenee
      @TahshaRenee 5 лет назад +12

      Oh wow ...I NEVER thought of it that way..holy crap...I FELT your words in my body reading them. I felt a lot of anxiety around watching this and doing it for my own PTSD issues but now after reading that I feel MUCH better and more connected to doing it.THANK YOU!!! ❤

    • @TahshaRenee
      @TahshaRenee 5 лет назад +1

      Oh except now when sha says POSITIVE things like "I AM HERE AND A SURVIVOR....AT THE END I WAS SAFE" now I see her wiping that away as well...hmm..anyway to help me see that differently? Ahahah!

    • @listening2all
      @listening2all 4 года назад +3

      @@TahshaRenee hello I hope you get freedom and yours eyes will smile and your countenance shine. Have you heard of polyvagal theory? this is the short explanation ruclips.net/video/ec3AUMDjtKQ/видео.html and this is more in detail ruclips.net/video/8tz146HQotY/видео.html I was researching it and someone's comment led me here to EMDR. Polyvagal theory has hit the hammer on the head for a few persons I know and hope they will now understand the root of their anxiety and emotional shutdown.

    • @ThriveWithLouise
      @ThriveWithLouise 4 года назад +6

      the memory is still there but the emotions are no longer there it just becomes stored away like a normal memory

    • @dcdno_one2393
      @dcdno_one2393 4 года назад +5

      You are doing the hard work - not your therapists' hands. When therapists don't do these hand things the outcomes are the same. You should take credit.

  • @whalemanify
    @whalemanify 5 лет назад +68

    15:46 worst memory+ negative cognition
    19:41 start
    23:19 Stop sign
    26:41 Atempause
    35:48 It wasn't intentional
    41:03 starting to feel peaceful
    42:14 No need to be afraid of water
    43:33 Installation - feel powerful
    49:35 Body scan + settling the feeling of being powerful

    • @kayex61
      @kayex61 4 года назад +12

      my friend you are a hero, your unpaid work is thankless and offers no material rewards but you just saved me several minutes and i appreciate it

    • @softmarshmello2821
      @softmarshmello2821 4 года назад +3

      @@kayex61 agreed

    • @ChitchatwithApril
      @ChitchatwithApril 4 года назад +2

      Thank you!

    • @chapogang1312
      @chapogang1312 4 года назад +2

      thank you for this !!

    • @whalemanify
      @whalemanify 4 года назад +3

      @@kayex61 thanks for the appreciation! I did this for a presentation so I could just click on the time stamps instead of skimming through the video. but I'm happy that it saves some people time

  • @hjk1701
    @hjk1701 4 года назад +13

    I coincidently found this video and watched it for my assignment. It is so unbelievable. and I can see your expertise at every pause there. Amazing! Hope to be like you soon!!

  • @joelthepizzawizard493
    @joelthepizzawizard493 4 года назад +27

    I'm about to start this soon. Hopefully it's a tactic that will help me. Also, thank you a million times to all therapists, you're all amazing!

  • @davevass6487
    @davevass6487 5 лет назад +36

    This is a great demonstration! As a fellow therapist in the trauma field, you have given me even more encouragement to seek out EMDR training.

  • @truthseeker8394
    @truthseeker8394 7 лет назад +114

    I find when doing emdr that keep returning to the patient's 'safe place' between sets of eye movements is very helpful in processing the memory faster.

  • @EmilyLoubie
    @EmilyLoubie 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow this was incredible! I have my first session tomorrow and I’m nervous but I feel so much more positive about it for watching this. I can’t wait to get started! Patient was very brave and therapist feels so safe! 🙏

  • @Bazza5000
    @Bazza5000 3 года назад +12

    I have done four sessions of EMDR with my therapist. I will be doing two sessions back to back on the 31st of July (2021) and one on August 1st. I think I noticed a difference after four sessions. It's somewhat significant, but I've experienced a lot of trauma, so I'll see after say 5 more sessions, but I am glad I received some benefit after four.

  • @westcoasttiff85
    @westcoasttiff85 3 года назад +21

    Its so crazy how you can see her labored breathing going back to the emotions, but still being connected to the therapist. I have multiple traumatic experiences that have left me with PTSD, night terrors, anger issues and an eating disorder. I start with a trauma therapist next week and she does EMDR. It's scary, but I'm sure it will do wonders for me. I want to live a normal life and turn the page.

    • @nylakhan5658
      @nylakhan5658 2 года назад +1

      Hey what symptoms do you suffer from I would love to help you have please find some help and support and talk to someone therapy like cbt emdr or try natural remedies.❤️

    • @camillecraig8555
      @camillecraig8555 2 года назад

      I'm there with you on multiple trauma events and ptsd.

  • @Dagge9
    @Dagge9 7 лет назад +77

    I wouldn't dare to arm wrestle you Dr. Marich. Thank you for this video, it has been a very interesting watch.

  • @kaerenlea7126
    @kaerenlea7126 7 лет назад +28

    Thank you very much for this demonstration, Jamie, it was very helpful to me. I learned lots of 'tweaks' to add to my practice eg 'ask yourself why you are not a 7' when doing the installation. That useful question was not included in my training. I am just between 1 and 2 training and trying it out on simple cases and it's quite amazing how it works. It is so useful to see a real live demo. So a big thanks from me. Kaeren

  • @lisiandthegym
    @lisiandthegym 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you very much, I am a psychotherapy trainee and we watched parts of your demo during class. Very helpful for me to connect the theory to practice.

  • @KBcollision
    @KBcollision 2 года назад +5

    Wow, how did i not stumble onto your tiktok account during the height of the pandemic when we all got lost on that app to pass the time at home. What a treasure trove of information. Did my doctorate in clinical side and fully respect you for your bravery. It is a shame that it still feels like the scariest people to come out to regarding mental health are one’s colleagues in the field.
    I just started EMDR for myself and the practitioner had me stand up and move side to side and tap my legs all while watching her fingers. No idea why since I am barely coordinated enough to track fingers while seated, but it was really nice to see what a typical session looks like here.

  • @cynstandish9109
    @cynstandish9109 6 лет назад +82

    I’m tired of the nightmares I barely remember more then half of my childhood but I have small pieces that come out in my dreams.

    • @AmberStone
      @AmberStone 5 лет назад +7

      Cyn Standish bless your heart 💛💛💛 I understand, a lot of my trauma was too much to process consciously so it happens in dreams/nightmares and that’s where a lot of memories have come up for me. Sending love ✨🙏🏼✨

    • @VioletHeyoka
      @VioletHeyoka 5 лет назад +7

      I can relate. You are not alone.

  • @cynthiacarlos5033
    @cynthiacarlos5033 6 лет назад +16

    Thank you for your courage and what a great example of EMDR!

  • @Ezridax82
    @Ezridax82 4 года назад +181

    Someone got carried away with the commercials...

    • @djlegend2
      @djlegend2 4 года назад +27

      Fast forward all the way to the end then replay. You won't see any adverts

    • @alyxchristophe4385
      @alyxchristophe4385 4 года назад +2

      people dont chose what or how many commercials are in their videos RUclips determines that. You can eliminate them by getting RUclips premium which i did but it is $12 a month.

    • @Ezridax82
      @Ezridax82 4 года назад +9

      @@alyxchristophe4385 That’s not true though. (Which is why some videos like this have them every 2 min and others have it far less). They can choose. And not everyone wants to pay $12 a month to avoid having ads every 2 minutes.

    • @gurbinderjhita4877
      @gurbinderjhita4877 4 года назад

      True. Not always the posters fault

    • @lexiemaep7930
      @lexiemaep7930 4 года назад

      😂😂😂

  • @jiankay
    @jiankay 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you very much Jamie for this video, I am a CBT and psychodynamic clinician and EMDR trainee..I was a bit confused about the process but you made it very easy ❤

  • @jessicatannehill7629
    @jessicatannehill7629 5 лет назад +163

    That woman was really brave!

    • @TahshaRenee
      @TahshaRenee 5 лет назад

      So brave!!!! I agree! ❤

    • @magina23
      @magina23 4 года назад +1

      What part of 'role playing' don't you understand...

    • @amberhiss1461
      @amberhiss1461 4 года назад +5

      @@magina23 i don't believe this is role playing. In EMDR they usually do not role play even in trainings.

    • @357Dejavu
      @357Dejavu 3 года назад +4

      I am a therapist and when we where training in EMDR we had to use real $h!+ from our own past. I have never seen an EMDR role play.

    • @jamescommon9013
      @jamescommon9013 3 года назад

      Why she is brave,? I don't understand

  • @Alipotamus
    @Alipotamus 2 года назад +2

    My best help was with headphones and a speed regulated lightbar. Worked like magic-truly. Sadly I had to move several times and never found an EMDR therapist who could help me. Not all “trained “ seem to really know what they are doing.

  • @cinder2994
    @cinder2994 5 лет назад +5

    Fabulous! Thank you ladies for sharing your ability and your trauma. I do hope this lovely lady enjoys our beautiful oceans.

  • @justinstubbings9242
    @justinstubbings9242 2 года назад +4

    I am about to begin EMDR so this was extremely helpful for me to see the process. Thank you so much.

  • @ferrariunicorn
    @ferrariunicorn 3 года назад +3

    Happy for this lady & those who have success with this… even in our weakest moments we are strong… believe that! It’s so true!

  • @syrissat
    @syrissat 4 года назад +6

    Thank you for the demonstration. I've been seeking various forms of therapy trying to find the form that can help me. This brings me hope that diving into my subconscious will help manifest healing.

  • @Renofirefly30
    @Renofirefly30 6 лет назад +64

    I was drug by my cousin under water when I was about 8 and still to this day I can't stand having my ankles touched by other people. I react aggressively and panic. My whole life was a series of abuse by multiple people and I'm about to start EMDR treatment because my therapist thinks it will help me process all of my traumas.

    • @serafina777
      @serafina777 5 лет назад +10

      Unfortunately, we get traumatized and unless we get help we continue to be victims.

    • @KeyHBCR
      @KeyHBCR 5 лет назад +9

      I hope it is going very well for you with your EMDR treatment.

    • @fabyvaldez9186
      @fabyvaldez9186 4 года назад +3

      @bonnie valker how did it go?

  • @gloriaguevara6695
    @gloriaguevara6695 7 лет назад +36

    This hit home. Very interesting and brings a lot of hope.

  • @allisonblackwood2136
    @allisonblackwood2136 7 лет назад +558

    Some of the comments here are really disgusting and judgmental. Who the heck are you to determine what is traumatic for her in comparison to you? Smh.

    • @Jesus.Bridged.The__Gap
      @Jesus.Bridged.The__Gap 6 лет назад +58

      Allison Blackwood ....Agreed! She almost died!!! If that isn't traumatizing, I don't know what is! Everyone has real trauma at varying levels, yet it doesn't make it less traumatic to the individual.

    • @rosemarykelley4201
      @rosemarykelley4201 6 лет назад

      isnt that doing reverse psychology.. oh that is not painful...

    • @tasha797
      @tasha797 6 лет назад

      Allison Blackwood absolutely

    • @yahyahyor
      @yahyahyor 6 лет назад +49

      @@rosemarykelley4201 no its invalidating another persons experience because they lack the ability to put themselves in another humans shoes.

    • @jenmdawg
      @jenmdawg 6 лет назад +36

      I have no doubt she (the patient) and the practitioner elected to do a "lesser" trauma but one that impacts her in a significant way for the benefit of the session and so as to not trigger anyone else in the audience. It is a shame that viewers on here would opt to minimize (invalidate) her trauma but it is truly only a reflection of their own trauma/limitation. People who do this reflexively are mimicking their own abusers' invalidation (while privileging their own trauma and isolating themselves further) - which has become a central feature of "trolling". The "trick" is to feel compassion for those who show none!

  • @shanty83goth
    @shanty83goth 3 года назад +2

    Woah! Just came across this video as EMDR was suggested by my mental health clinician a few yrs ago but I was too scared to do it.
    This was POWERFUL!! I found myself holding my breath for her and then slowly letting it go. Wow!

    • @Alipotamus
      @Alipotamus 2 года назад

      Don’t worry. It will either help or not but it won’t hurt you. Experience

  • @debijeans8593
    @debijeans8593 4 месяца назад +1

    Loved this. So special it made me cry. What a gift. Thank you!

  • @kikifire9113
    @kikifire9113 5 лет назад +13

    Amazing work. Extremely brave of her to do this in front of everyone. I'm experiencing extreme terror just thinking of doing this with my therapist!

  • @jfornow1866
    @jfornow1866 6 лет назад +19

    I was a skeptic and it has worked for me for stopping my binge eating in just 2 session. My therapist used headphones and beeps and the first session was just taking my information and history...unbelievable!!

    • @meganbowerman2750
      @meganbowerman2750 5 лет назад

      So this does not only help for ptsd or trauma? How did it help you to stop binge eating?

    • @jfornow1866
      @jfornow1866 5 лет назад

      @@meganbowerman2750 I had been meaning to update this comment. I stopped binge eating for a about a week after the session and fell back into my old habits again soon after that. I found the sessions helped explain why I have my issues but as for clearing them unfortunately long term not so much.

    • @alexahackett764
      @alexahackett764 5 лет назад

      Treatment planning and history taking can take 2 sessions so that is normal.

    • @blockbusterlady5993
      @blockbusterlady5993 5 лет назад

      Is it still working for you to this day?I am nervous for my appointment...

    • @fabyvaldez9186
      @fabyvaldez9186 4 года назад

      @j fornow. How are you doing now? Did you stop EMDR ? Did it helped anymore?

  • @Ace-od8en
    @Ace-od8en 7 лет назад +11

    thank you so much Jaime... you both were really great. I have no way of doing EMDR in my country so I am learning how to process it on my own with youtube videos. So far some decent progress. Don't worry about me though, I don't have severe trauma, just some anxieties and fears and bad habits due to poor internal beliefs about myself that were developed in my adolescence.

    • @redshift6743
      @redshift6743 7 лет назад +2

      Ace How are doing?

    • @lianamadeea
      @lianamadeea 6 лет назад

      Ace, where are you from? In my country i get the opportunity to study EMDR on NLP masterclass.

    • @aalihte3378
      @aalihte3378 5 лет назад +1

      try EFT aka the tapping method. It can be done very easily on your own..and isnt quite the extreme brain reprogramming that EMDR is. There are many studies on it being super effective.

  • @geridawn
    @geridawn 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is very helpful. I just took the EMDR basic class but was left with a lot of questions about how the end of phase 4 onwards go in practice, and this clarifies a lot 😊

  • @yogadealer2
    @yogadealer2 3 года назад +2

    This is very helpful. You are so powerful and transformative with your clients. Thank you.

  • @StoicObserverS
    @StoicObserverS 6 лет назад +10

    I use a slightly different technique. I also do not ask a lot disclosure. Great job on the session! Fantastic results! I love your technique.

  • @CatarinaFitensityWorkouts
    @CatarinaFitensityWorkouts 4 года назад +3

    absoltly amazong, I did the same thing she was doing with a little trauma I have and at the end I cried of relief! this absoltuyl amazing!!!! what the heckk...how can this even be so ''easy'' :O thank you!

  • @joycelampert625
    @joycelampert625 6 лет назад +17

    Thank you for sharing your work. Funny enough, when I took my training I did my "easy" trauma on a water incident. Turns out it wasn't so easy, but I was able to clear some of my stuff and get a lot calmer in the water. I use EMDR almost daily in my practice. I have see remarkable results; sometimes subtle and other times (like in your example), huge shifts happen quickly. I learned a lot from your example and look forward to incorporating some of it. As an aside, it was too much wear and tear on my shoulder so I bought the thera-tappers. They work great! I used the ones with the headset as well but I found it way too distracting. I just love EMDR! And for those people who don't believe it, or discount it because their traumas are more complex, give it a shot. It may not fix all of your issues, but it can certainly give you relief and help you lead a happier life.

    • @AlmaS211
      @AlmaS211 Год назад

      Te lo haces a ti mismo ? Yo si lo estoy haciendo sola , no tengo dinero para psicoterapia😊

  • @kaylaandhannahrfih1399
    @kaylaandhannahrfih1399 4 года назад +6

    By 31:05 I was in tears just listening to this as I am about to face it tomorrow. Please wish me luck that this can work for me .

    • @justme-cq6uq
      @justme-cq6uq 4 года назад

      How did it go any luck?

    • @jxiris
      @jxiris 4 года назад

      I hope the best for you in this journey. Sending lots of love & good intentions ✨

  • @rampartranger7749
    @rampartranger7749 4 года назад +6

    I’m a hiker, fairly fast-paced, always have positive thoughts after 4-5 miles in nature. It’s rough terrain, so lots of eye movement as I go.

  • @martinaavanzo3003
    @martinaavanzo3003 5 месяцев назад

    When she realized the reason why the feeling "I am powerful" wasn't complete and on the highest scale was amazing!

  • @zanaduify
    @zanaduify 4 года назад +12

    I started doing this on myself as an experiment and realizing EMDR could be really helpful for me.

  • @bunlemhuor2766
    @bunlemhuor2766 7 лет назад +34

    that's good, I am EMDR practioner in Cambodia.

    • @BA-fy8kt
      @BA-fy8kt 5 лет назад

      Does this work for depressed people?

  • @blancemorgan
    @blancemorgan 7 лет назад +8

    This is perfect. I'm just beginning to use EMDR, in the time between training 1 and 2, and needed to see again a good demonstration. This is very helpful, Jamie! Thank you.

    • @maximoatunga4048
      @maximoatunga4048 6 лет назад

      I'm also between training 1 and 2. Good luck with the process!

    • @kaleimaile
      @kaleimaile 4 года назад

      I have my 2nd training on EMDR next weekend & then, the third training 3 weeks later. Then, onto the consultation so that I can get certified. Did you do the certification?

  • @johnblack9921
    @johnblack9921 5 лет назад +28

    I'm currently learning EMDR in my trauma class with Edinboro University MSW program.

    • @theresamischeski71
      @theresamischeski71 4 года назад

      Does it work for Gang Trauma, Murders, Sexual abuse, Violence and alcohol, OH there's so much more. ....

    • @9290SC
      @9290SC 3 года назад

      @@theresamischeski71 I would assume so! trauma is trauma is trauma.

  • @jackcarpenters3759
    @jackcarpenters3759 4 года назад +29

    My personal experience is that EMDR works, but it is way less complicated as shown here. But usually EMDR therapists aks 100 bucks an hour so it has to look complex. For me it was just thinking about the incident where i felt powerless, and looking at a moving dot to override my brain, and the picture became less powerfull and didn't came back bothering me. You can actually do this yourself at home, with a moving dot vid on youtube.

    • @suddenimpulse030
      @suddenimpulse030 Год назад +3

      you aren't supposed to do this at home for a variety of reasons. stop giving bad medical advice.

    • @claudemona1360
      @claudemona1360 10 месяцев назад

    • @claudemona1360
      @claudemona1360 10 месяцев назад

      I totally agree with you

    • @wiseworn
      @wiseworn 4 месяца назад

      It is specifically this complex because trauma is extremely complex and how it effects the brain. I would suggest looking into new therapists in your case.

    • @gabriellaromsics9579
      @gabriellaromsics9579 2 месяца назад

      After my session with my therapist, i was amazed at the swift clearing of the emotion attached to the memory. It was instantaneous and it was minutes not an hour. I used my hand as she used hers just to show me past, when it actually happened moving it to present in front of me and moving the memory to the future where it has no emotional affect. She explained to me that I can do this by my self as memories creep up and my emotions rise. In my case the one session gave me complete relief and a deep understanding and forgiveness for the adults who did not protect me. I did not need to deal with each trauma as she expected I might have to. It was completely different than this session.
      I also watched another session where they used tapping.
      Mine was a single movement of my hand from left (past) to center (present) to right (future).

  • @Cheryl1965
    @Cheryl1965 7 лет назад +9

    I agree with Lance. I'm also just out of training 1 and really needed this! Thank you.

  • @redpooh5
    @redpooh5 4 года назад +5

    Just heard of this my first therapy session was yesterday and I’m nervous and excited about getting this done I have had this big weight on my shoulder for to long now it is finally time I take control!!#Wish me luck everyone thanks in advance 😎

    • @lizettevergara2528
      @lizettevergara2528 4 года назад +1

      redpooh5 good luck!!!

    • @redpooh5
      @redpooh5 4 года назад

      Lizette Vergara thank you I appreciate that!!👌🏽

  • @cuppahappy2878
    @cuppahappy2878 4 года назад +1

    I was refreshing my memory after a year of maternity leave and remembered most aspects of how to do EMDR in practice so thank you ... However, a little less ads would be great... It was literally every 5 minutes

  • @rajivpandarathil
    @rajivpandarathil 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks to Madame for very detailed information about EMDR Therapy.. Best wishes... ❤

  • @Marcuslovesyouu
    @Marcuslovesyouu 5 лет назад +6

    My boyfriend suffers from very bad ptsd and I’m educating myself as much I can that way I can understand and help him as much I could. I’m no professional but I’m all he’s got. I want to try this with him.

    • @nicyaxal
      @nicyaxal 5 лет назад

      Try mindfulness! And CBT

    • @bslaozora
      @bslaozora 5 лет назад

      @@Kaiser_MHA I agree with the not professionally trained one--but I cannot see with the other reason.
      Can you explain more why it doesn't work just because "they are two entirely different dynamics"? Playing multiple roles in interpersonal relationships is just common and I cannot see how the two are intrinsically mutually exclusive. You can be a friend, a lover, a carer etc. to someone at the same time.
      I just understand some people would not seek professional help and sometimes you would need to learn something to try to help your friends. It's a good idea to consult a professional YOURSELF first though.

    • @bslaozora
      @bslaozora 5 лет назад +1

      @@Kaiser_MHA Thank you very much for your thorough explanation - though I would still tell the original op to go for it IF there's indeed no other choice. However, you definitely gave some very point that she needs to be aware of.
      You claimed as therapist one must leave out personal feelings and be objective. I completely agree. However, you assumed that a therapist can always do that 100% while a lover would be impossible - that's something I disagree with. Being human, as long as you're not cold-blooded, it's not possible to not have personal feeling when you hear a sad or excruciating experience. You can however hide your feeling at that moment--that a friend or a lover can also do that, especially when they are "playing" the therapist. Harder, but not impossible.
      I can remain expressionless and focused when a friend of mine whom I dearly love share her fragment of memory of being drugged and gang raped. I shared and guided her with the techniques of grounding/mindfulness (which I got advised from another friend of mine who's a registered CP), not expressing my anger at the moment. Her PTSD symptoms did improved. Do I say I do better or similar to a professional? Definitely not -- but when I know she just would not seek professional help due to personal reason, I know I HAVE to do something. I'm NOT saying it's a good idea for a lover to play a therapist -- but when she tried her best to convince her bf to seek professional help (or if such help is simply not available), the only option would be to equip herself as much as she can.

    • @lauda6945
      @lauda6945 4 года назад +2

      @@bslaozora I do understand what you are saying but as someone that has begun the process to being a therapist there is one final note I'd like to make on why it'd be dangerous to pursue doing this on your own untrained while doing grounding/mindfulness would not be. It has a lot to do with how the techniques function in the brain to attain certain outcomes so i do recommend reading up more on both cause this is very oversimplified for the sake of a comment. Mindfulness/grounding can be done "untrained" in fact if you noticed in the video she had assured the client already had grounding techniques that worked for her. Grounding is something everyone is meant to do alone because there are many known ways to effect and calm the central nervous system and many are intuitive for people. This is 100% different from what happens during EMDR work which is why doing it with a trained professional is so important. Regular people are not trained in identifying flashbacks, bringing people out of trauma loops, preventing or watching for red flags of possible self harm, don't know when to change up a technique that isn't working for that individual client, etc. It may seem that the strategies used are simple but it is doing BIG changes in the human brain, literally taking a memory your brain was unable to process at the time and slowly ensuring it is properly stored in the long term memory of your brain without destroying your personal narrative that is also contained there. It is a very touchy process with a lot of risks and so i can never suggest someone do it alone. My personal recommend would be the use grounding and mindfulness, create a safe place meditation you can go back to that you associate with tapping your hands on your opposite thighs and (if you're comfortable with it) microdose shrooms a couple times a week to help yourself with processing (do this with intentionality for example "i am going to meet with and care for my inner child"), integrating better health and consistent exercise will help some too.

    • @alandynamite2012
      @alandynamite2012 4 года назад +1

      @@bslaozora Marcus said his boyfriend suffers from "really bad ptsd". In situations like that, it is very common for clients to tell me later "I didn't know how bad the trauma was affecting me. I thought I was handling it okay". I have to explain to them that we all deal with trauma differently, but that these feelings definitely get worse before they get better. As you're working with these clients, it is important to be trained in how to deal with it when their trauma gets triggered. Even in cases of minor trauma, you still have to be aware that by working on a small trauma, you are still accessing a chain of trauma that can quickly become overwhelming and you've then set yourself up as the only support he can use. You need to encourage him to find help with someone else so you can just be his boyfriend, support him, and love him.

  • @channie_ya
    @channie_ya 6 лет назад +14

    My psychiatrist has decided to try this on me as I have an EXTREME fear of needles. I can't take any shots or blood tests. I can barely puncture my skin with a needle, unless I'm the one in control. I cry and scream if a syringe just comes near me. So I'm exited to see if this treatment work, but I'm also terrified that I might say or do something I don't want to...

    • @S.Marinka
      @S.Marinka 9 месяцев назад +1

      How did it go?

  • @greeneyeddg
    @greeneyeddg 5 лет назад +20

    This therapy, in my experience with a light bar, worked almost miraculously.

    • @pinkformarie
      @pinkformarie 5 лет назад

      greeneyeddg a light bar? Please explain thanks

    • @beckycancilla4169
      @beckycancilla4169 5 лет назад +6

      pinkformarie it’s a bar with lights that flash from side to side for the bilateral stimulation.

    • @ALCRAN2010
      @ALCRAN2010 4 года назад

      Do you think a metronome could work as well?

    • @deborahmanning-galarza1839
      @deborahmanning-galarza1839 4 года назад +2

      @@ALCRAN2010 I had one therapist use headphones on me and it didn't seem to work at all. So, if it's the sound you're asking about, no. Also, I think a metronome goes too fast visually. A long light bar worked best for me.

  • @johnmacgregor324
    @johnmacgregor324 7 лет назад +13

    Brilliant, thanks. And thanks to your 'client' too - a very brave effort.

  • @matthewconti2487
    @matthewconti2487 Месяц назад +1

    I've been very successful with EMDR sessions with a certificated EMDR clinician

  • @sidraali5674
    @sidraali5674 3 года назад +4

    I have cptsd. I have multiple traumas and they are deeply buried. How will they come out and what is the big trauma which need to be digged out?

  • @elo3016
    @elo3016 4 года назад +3

    That was amazing to observe. What a powerful tool, emdr! I had no idea.

  • @janicebeare8127
    @janicebeare8127 4 года назад +2

    Remarkable to watch the process. Thanks to both participants!

  • @meaganhughes4812
    @meaganhughes4812 Год назад

    Learning more about this treatment as I finish my masters. Thank you!

  • @aliciaward3101
    @aliciaward3101 7 лет назад +18

    I will be beginning this therapy with a new therapist soon, I hope that it can help me get back to work.

  • @socialmisfitdiaries6061
    @socialmisfitdiaries6061 7 лет назад +53

    getting this done soon can't wait had a traumatic bullying past

    • @Spundun
      @Spundun 6 лет назад +10

      How did your edmr session go, do you feel it helped you recover?

    • @brkfstatsyms
      @brkfstatsyms 3 года назад

      Updateeee us girl 🙌🏾

  • @sherryhelton1874
    @sherryhelton1874 6 лет назад +7

    Excellent outcome, brave client.

  • @janemorrow6672
    @janemorrow6672 6 лет назад +15

    This actually worked for me just watching the video. Amazing.

    • @nicolew4990
      @nicolew4990 5 лет назад +14

      lol not possible

    • @TahshaRenee
      @TahshaRenee 5 лет назад +1

      Right?! I felt so odd watching this ...super relaxed and like I was releasing things of my own ...woah.

  • @ouard6961
    @ouard6961 2 года назад

    Hi! as a Clinical psychologist it helped me a lot, Thank you
    Take care & stay safe

  • @deadlypalms
    @deadlypalms 7 лет назад +4

    Fascinating. There is a lot going on here which is liable to work with trauma outside of any of the actual bilateral stuff i.e. bringing attention to the emotional and physical sensations in a way which isn't far removed from Eugene Gendlin's 'focusing' therapy..

  • @deea.358
    @deea.358 7 лет назад +17

    Thanks, really insightful (2nd year psychiatric nursing student).

  • @yourlocaltransboy7051
    @yourlocaltransboy7051 6 лет назад +3

    Just started EMDR, this was great :) had one session and anxious but gonna keep going :)

  • @zephyrr914
    @zephyrr914 3 года назад +4

    Emdr is difficult for me because I can’t trust enough to let go. I had a therapist just a week or two before she tried to introduce it and I couldn’t relax and let it work. I know laying alone in my room and tapping can bring tears even tho I am not focusing on anything in particular. I think it truly can help people

    • @jaybee4757
      @jaybee4757 3 года назад

      💗

    • @DeTurquoise
      @DeTurquoise 10 месяцев назад

      Maybe you need to talk to somebody (therapist, friend) before? Experience more empathy or something? ❤

  • @jdorman1973
    @jdorman1973 3 года назад +3

    I have ASD, so I am wondering how well this would work for me. I would focus on your fingers more than my feelings. My therapist wants to do this with me.

  • @maggie0285
    @maggie0285 4 года назад +9

    Has anyone felt nervous or weird doing this the first time with their therapist? I'm about to start and trying to not feel weird about it.

  • @andreagail1224
    @andreagail1224 4 года назад +2

    I saw your Ted Talk! It was amazing!!!

  • @marcuszarafonetis2796
    @marcuszarafonetis2796 7 лет назад +60

    I got pretty bad PTSD and my therapist has recommended using EMDR. Thought I would check it out

    • @walterdelong6324
      @walterdelong6324 7 лет назад +2

      Did you try the TRE tremor therapy of David Berceli yet. I would do that in conjunction with EMDR.

    • @StoicObserverS
      @StoicObserverS 6 лет назад +4

      Do it, it will help you a great deal! You can get back to normal and have an awesome life!

    • @AliciasHealingChannel
      @AliciasHealingChannel 6 лет назад +2

      marcus zarafonetis TRE EFT VortexHealing and EMDR saved my life.

    • @lauraaa1015
      @lauraaa1015 6 лет назад +1

      may I ask whether EMDR has helped you?

    • @canigetahoooyyyaaaaa7319
      @canigetahoooyyyaaaaa7319 6 лет назад

      Research ketamine infusions. If you want to be added to ketamine infusions for better health (not the full name) if you search that on facebook me and the other group members can help you all figure stuff out.

  • @elismycat
    @elismycat 4 года назад +4

    Will it work for a general feeling of feeling stuck, not enough, unworthy...and so on? If you can't rememer specific episodes and just have a feeling of being caged in....unlovable?

  • @fables4564
    @fables4564 5 лет назад +4

    I would love to see you apply all these phases with art , sand tray, and Somatic approaches.

  • @PaulStewartAviation
    @PaulStewartAviation 4 года назад +2

    Fixed after one session. Flight to health?

  • @AmberStone
    @AmberStone 5 лет назад +9

    Has anyone done this for trauma based mind control? If you have please share if it was retraumatizing or if it helped you release the emotions and overcome them 💛

    • @Kemarie
      @Kemarie Год назад

      I know people who have, and have found it helpful. Best of luck.

    • @claudemona1360
      @claudemona1360 10 месяцев назад

      Of course it does

  • @sandibergen2523
    @sandibergen2523 Год назад

    I did this on my own with her and it’s exhausting and hopefully helpful. I did a short one last night and had a nightmare of seeing myself on my hands and knees and i was all bones and sickly and it scared my kids

  • @greygray6230
    @greygray6230 6 лет назад +2

    I’ve been in EMDR for over a year now (at least once a week). It’s not a quick help,but for me, it has helped. Mixed with cannabis (I was prescribed it) it can help even more.

    • @blockbusterlady5993
      @blockbusterlady5993 5 лет назад

      I have recently decided to do this son that I don't have to use cannabis or any other natural medicine.I have drank Ayahuasca 13 times,microdosed with mushrooms....I am sick of having to put anything in my mouth to help with my anxiety/depression.
      I want to walk the line 100% without taking psychedelics or meds.

  • @amadcarrot
    @amadcarrot 6 лет назад +10

    Question, does the practitioner always sit that close to the client/patient for EMDR? I’m assuming yes because it keeps the finger stimulus within the field of vision without too large of movements by the clinician, but the proximity could be uncomfortable for some Recipients

    • @KMF3
      @KMF3 6 лет назад +5

      No not always. I use an app on my IPad and so I sit to the side but close enough to stop and start the iPad between each set. Some therapists use a light bar with a remote and so can sit very far away.

    • @pinktigers4540
      @pinktigers4540 4 года назад

      You check out proximity with clients first

  • @pixie1310
    @pixie1310 7 лет назад +21

    How do you know when to stop moving your fingers for her? Also what happens if you dissociate too much during EMDR, as in my case.

    • @DrJamieMM
      @DrJamieMM  7 лет назад +27

      Clinicians are given a general guideline of 24-36 full passes of eye movements per set although this can be altered based on observation and clinical judgment, which is what I did with this client. In terms of dissociation, talk with your therapist about this about having more grounding strategies on hand, also may be an issue with the form of stimulation used. For instance, I have some clients who drift too much with eye movements so doing tactile stimulation with eyes open may be advisable. This has to be handled case-by-case with a skilled clinician. Feel free to look through some of my other videos on grounding and stabilization strategies; it may be a good idea for you to do some of these before you come in for EMDR sessions or to ask your therapist for more breaks in the action if they find that appropriate.

    • @utsutspurouts
      @utsutspurouts 6 лет назад +2

      @@DrJamieMM My trainer mentioned that EMDR was not advisable for people who can easily dissociate. She suggested that we screen for this prior to initiating EMDR. What are your thoughts on this?

    • @alexahackett764
      @alexahackett764 5 лет назад +3

      @@utsutspurouts There are specific tools you can use with a client who dissociates, but that is how I was trained using Francine Shapiro's method. It is not impossible.

    • @SophiliaLarkPhD
      @SophiliaLarkPhD 3 года назад

      Like Dr. Jamie said, there are guidelines for how many passes of BLS to implement before stopping, and also, there are techniques like Fraser's dissociative table technique that can be used during EMDR desensitization to work with the split off parts of the personality that are dissociating during the processing. It can be done, but the clinician must have proper training and a good handle on managing dissociative episodes while performing bls.

  • @chazs6854
    @chazs6854 3 года назад +4

    You have enough add rolls in this?

  • @ee-hd2is
    @ee-hd2is 3 года назад +1

    thank you so so much for vidoes like these. more therapy sessions please. God bless you. i subscribed.

  • @HannahWho
    @HannahWho 5 лет назад +4

    Im getting this done for the first time soon...first kind of intensive therapy since my trauma. I'm honestly really scared. I feel like I'll end up sobbing half way through the session.

  • @feelingbetternaturally1099
    @feelingbetternaturally1099 5 лет назад +6

    It would have been good to explain the "light stream" exercise to better understand the process. Thank you.

    • @loririchards9211
      @loririchards9211 5 лет назад

      Not really. All Jewish hypnotic witchcraft

    • @kaleimaile
      @kaleimaile 4 года назад

      She has another video on the light stream technique.

  • @makfiregoxhufi8023
    @makfiregoxhufi8023 5 лет назад +6

    If u are emotional detachment can this help

  • @singasong1123
    @singasong1123 2 месяца назад

    after taking deep breaths I started to feel sleepy. in this case would you still do the hand movement ? thanks

  • @nerohdarkhand
    @nerohdarkhand Год назад +2

    It looks interesting how it is working on clients. My therapist tried the same and it was too fast for me, so we used the tapping. But even there, my brain was way too focused on surroundings instead of bringing up the memories as it should. Is this normal?

    • @christinak4082
      @christinak4082 Год назад +2

      That’s dissociation. Means your brain doesn’t feel safe enough yet.

    • @nerohdarkhand
      @nerohdarkhand Год назад +1

      @@christinak4082 thank you. :) We are finaly making progress and I can now follow his fingers when he is moving them before my eyes. nightmares and nightly flashbacks almost stopped completely after 5 sessions. the intensity of fears lowered from 7-10, down to 4-6 after 6 month. the triggerability is still high when situations was unexpected, but i think thats just a matter of time.