It's just the way I've learned over the years how to make weight transfer at any weight .. I hear a lot of people saying they can't make their cars work at heavier weights, it's just because they're not transferring the weight they have properly.. as you can see the car just wants to go forward thank you so much like I always say we're learning together!!!!
@@powermadracing5116 I just consider myself one of the fortunate one's that you have lend your knowledge to. It awesome your putting this out there because there is sooo much miss information on these cars.
@@joshherrman3201 yes it seems and there is also different ways to approach it also .depending on what your starting with .. thank you for taking your time josh your good people , so I thank you ...
Thank you so much Paul I'm going to need it all the fastest guys around the country or supposably heading this way I know Bisquick and Josh trash money will be here this weekend at Okeechobee for the race
I have seen this done but mostly on cars that run zero or separation, the driveshaft naturally want to be straight so they are helping me in my fight against SWAT.... all these things working together is doing what I want . keeping the rear end pretty much stationary.. if you haven't already check out radial Tire racing ....you want to talk about separation, they don't settle down until they lift of the throttle..it's called driving over the instant Center. I just wish I could relocate the hinge pin so the front was down so these cars would separate on their own
@@powermadracing5116 yes sir I know all about that LOL I started drag racing real cars when I was about 14 years old I'm now 48 getting to be an old man LOL have you looked at the proline transmission and the drag race concepts mid motor transmission I believe that hinge pin is flat
Dave I enjoy your videos. I come from big cars as well. With 20 years rc experience as well in different forms. And basically with your front set up you are tie n the front end down to control it. My question for you is do you have the 1/4 inch of minimum travel per the nprc rules. This question is by no means a dig. Just hate to see ya get tossed over it. Are maybe they don't even check it.. Great video and explanation of how things work on a drag car for the ones that truly don't know. I watch your videos even if I know the answers. Heck I might even learn a other way. By the way my big car was a 3rd gen camaro to. LoL. Happy holidays to you and yours.
Thank you very much Norris that is awesome ,we have sister ship cars lol.. like I always say we're learning together I learn all the time.. yes there's well over a quarter inch of travel but you have to collapse it with your hand.. I really appreciate the kind words.. happy holidays to you and your family be healthy and safe
I know this is an older upload but the rules you lay out still applies today , math and geometry never change . As a new member of the drag race scene and this channel i am trying to learn about set up and how it compares to real world drag cars . One question , with the vertical setup of the rear shocks and the reason for doing it you talked about , i can see how that applies to a solid rear axle but does it still apply to a lower control arm that moves in an arc ? Wouldnt you be more under the shock if the top was laid down ever so slightly ..
Hey Wayne's welcome aboard , and glad you came by .. yes so much as change now. The chassis are very flexible. The rear shocks are completely laid over almost to a triangle.. they don't want any rear suspension movement . Its t all flexible very thin 3 mm chassis.
Hey love the video looking into buying rear shocks for my car and was wondering what shocks you use and what spring if you don’t want to share that information that is fine just trying to find a good start
Sorry Parker I just saw this I used the proline pro spec with the purple spring but that may change on the weight of your car need any help let me know
@@powermadracing5116 thanks I ended up going with traxxas gtr shocks but now I am fighting battery problems thinking of either buying the same battery you have either the brick or shorty pack
No Rufus get a shock without a bladder you need the bleeder... I use them in the front as you see there's nothing going on up there if you're steering you're losing
Ok, I got u so what's the purpose of the bladder? Besides being there so the shock won't bottom out. If I flip my shock-like your with the bladder will it still perform the same? @@powermadracing5116
. that is called sprung weight the suspension, that's to show people you don't have to add weight to the front of your car. use the suspension as you see the car pivots on its pickup point,. Which is created by weight distribution.. the front end doesn't leave the ground.. remember I didn't come up or create any of this it's all from the Bible Jerry Bickel book and I'm glad you're there really good questions... if you want some more in-depth chassis tuning and power management checkout radial tire racing
@@powermadracing5116 I will look into radial tire racing. I had gone to a 2 day chassis class held by Dave Morgan years ago. Don't know where his book went that I had bought, but the principles are the same as Jerry Bickel.
@@RichieCat4223 of course they have to be... it's the way it works, you can't fight physics. When you get into radial tire racing you will see how quick they really are... with no bars and a 315 radial , in the 8th mile 3.50s at 215 miles an hour .. check out Stevie fast Jackson also on RUclips... he's my hero LOL... you're going to laugh your ass off when you can really see what the separation looks like the car doesn't come down till they lift
@@RichieCat4223 no not at all do it anyway you like if you're talkin about true no prep you would have to because you'll have no traction they basically put a weight set in the backseat you just can't fight physics... just so you know going up is not going forward so that is a wasted movement in drag racing. In the clock is ticking we're talking thousands of a second
@@powermadracing5116 found my problem think my rear Springs were to stiff once I put a lighter spring and the limiter’s I’m able to set it up the way you Show it on the video run i can put it down cause of the little bit and then I can still lift it up a little bit before it hits the limiter definitely going to try it thanks for the awesome videos you but out with knowledge I run the same chassis as well but don’t have the Anti-roll yet
@@itshookn8155 sounds like you got it set up just right!!!! I promise once you get into the power management and stuff you will be very happy. Anything I can do to help let me know
Hey Rufus I see you're digging ... I hope you're finding some good knowledge yes just regular straight weight is what I mean by 40... like say " not" 10w 40 .... straight 40 weight works well you know temperature affects the the oil so when it's hotter I run thicker oil when it's cooler I run thinner oil so the car reacts the same
got u like the old big blocks 40+ years ago hot u run thicker 20/50 cooler u run 10/30. If it's too damn hot you run treatment 👍🏿👍🏿yes I do my homework. Lol I taking this season very serious this year trying to prove a point 2 myself. Also my wife had a bout with Breast Cancer 6 month ago got surgery opt for the mastectomy she good now Dr said she ahead of schedule by like 8 months. So im spreading this make sure women get checked. My wife was blessed to come through this the way she did so dedicated my life with this RC thing to help as many as we can that's why that truck in my profile my wife she racing this year.👍🏿💪🏿 So yea you see what I'm trying to do. Thank you again. 💯
@@RazorRoo1989 Rufus my most sincere wishes and promises go out to your wife for a successful 100% recovery yes I can hear that you are a very smart and you will be successful together we will make sure
@@powermadracing5116 That gave me chill bumps. Thank you so much. Like I said you and Chad are like my shop teacher who gives a damn. I always try to help people no matter what I don't ask anything in return except that person I help to pass it on. RC is my outlet. I love it. Racing I love competition and the camaraderie. Again thank you. One day we're going to meet. Do you have a Facebook page?
This answers all my questions nice video on suspension.
Glad I can help Tyrone thank you sir
@@powermadracing5116your welcome keep up the good work can't wait to see more
Love this keep it up just got my first drag car cant wait to set it up
Hey Jeremy thank you very much for coming by I know there's a ton of channels out there is anything I can do to help please let me know
Awesome video! Thanks for the info! See ya Sunday.
Thanks Roy absolutely see you Sunday
Great explanation on your setup, thank you. Have a happy healthy!
Same to you my friend have a great one
Awesome man...thanks for the explanation
You're very welcome that's what we're all here for we're all learning together you see me asking questions all the time LOL
Great video Dave. Thank you. Happy New Year
Thank you very much Mark you to be safe
Well said Dave. 👏 So much to be learned from your knowledge.
It's just the way I've learned over the years how to make weight transfer at any weight .. I hear a lot of people saying they can't make their cars work at heavier weights, it's just because they're not transferring the weight they have properly.. as you can see the car just wants to go forward thank you so much like I always say we're learning together!!!!
@@powermadracing5116 I just consider myself one of the fortunate one's that you have lend your knowledge to. It awesome your putting this out there because there is sooo much miss information on these cars.
@@joshherrman3201 yes it seems and there is also different ways to approach it also .depending on what your starting with .. thank you for taking your time josh your good people , so I thank you ...
That was a great video mate, I learnt a heap on that one. I’ll definitely be referring back to that video over and over
sweet glad to hear it .. we are all learning together my friend that what its all about too me ...
Happy holidays! Good luck in your big race.
Thank you so much Paul I'm going to need it all the fastest guys around the country or supposably heading this way I know Bisquick and Josh trash money will be here this weekend at Okeechobee for the race
Great video bro 👍🏾💯
Thanks coaches just my point of view it's not the Bible
Very nice info thanks and happy new year to you and your wife.
Sorry Pat just seeing this Pat Happy New Year to you too and yours
another mechanical advantage is to have the drive shafts level, you can achieve this by shimming up the gear box.
I have seen this done but mostly on cars that run zero or separation, the driveshaft naturally want to be straight so they are helping me in my fight against SWAT.... all these things working together is doing what I want . keeping the rear end pretty much stationary.. if you haven't already check out radial Tire racing ....you want to talk about separation, they don't settle down until they lift of the throttle..it's called driving over the instant Center. I just wish I could relocate the hinge pin so the front was down so these cars would separate on their own
@@powermadracing5116 yes sir I know all about that LOL I started drag racing real cars when I was about 14 years old I'm now 48 getting to be an old man LOL have you looked at the proline transmission and the drag race concepts mid motor transmission I believe that hinge pin is flat
Dave I enjoy your videos. I come from big cars as well. With 20 years rc experience as well in different forms. And basically with your front set up you are tie n the front end down to control it. My question for you is do you have the 1/4 inch of minimum travel per the nprc rules. This question is by no means a dig. Just hate to see ya get tossed over it. Are maybe they don't even check it.. Great video and explanation of how things work on a drag car for the ones that truly don't know. I watch your videos even if I know the answers. Heck I might even learn a other way. By the way my big car was a 3rd gen camaro to. LoL. Happy holidays to you and yours.
Thank you very much Norris that is awesome ,we have sister ship cars lol.. like I always say we're learning together I learn all the time.. yes there's well over a quarter inch of travel but you have to collapse it with your hand.. I really appreciate the kind words.. happy holidays to you and your family be healthy and safe
Awesome video brother. Knowledge is power. Happy New Year.
Hey Rob thank you very much dude you've been there from the beginning same to you and your family many blessings
@@powermadracing5116 Power Mad Racing 4 LIFE brother. 👍 you inspired me . i was the lowrider guy. Now i pretty much only mess with drag cars. Lol.
@@robschierbaum variety is the spice of life my friend.... and just think , drag racing is in a straight line LOL !!!!!
I know this is an older upload but the rules you lay out still applies today , math and geometry never change . As a new member of the drag race scene and this channel i am trying to learn about set up and how it compares to real world drag cars . One question , with the vertical setup of the rear shocks and the reason for doing it you talked about , i can see how that applies to a solid rear axle but does it still apply to a lower control arm that moves in an arc ? Wouldnt you be more under the shock if the top was laid down ever so slightly ..
Hey Wayne's welcome aboard , and glad you came by .. yes so much as change now. The chassis are very flexible. The rear shocks are completely laid over almost to a triangle.. they don't want any rear suspension movement . Its t all flexible very thin 3 mm chassis.
Hey love the video looking into buying rear shocks for my car and was wondering what shocks you use and what spring if you don’t want to share that information that is fine just trying to find a good start
Sorry Parker I just saw this I used the proline pro spec with the purple spring but that may change on the weight of your car need any help let me know
@@powermadracing5116 thanks I ended up going with traxxas gtr shocks but now I am fighting battery problems thinking of either buying the same battery you have either the brick or shorty pack
@@parkercornish4212 Good batteries out there do your research
What Shocks you Run you have Part Numbers or leghts in Front and rear
I run the proline Pro specs .. as far as length that would be dictated by the height of the bottom plate of your chassis...
Ok so top of the proline If I take that bladder out couldn't I glue the hole on top of the proline and remove the bladder?
No Rufus get a shock without a bladder you need the bleeder... I use them in the front as you see there's nothing going on up there if you're steering you're losing
Ok, I got u so what's the purpose of the bladder? Besides being there so the shock won't bottom out. If I flip my shock-like your with the bladder will it still perform the same? @@powermadracing5116
What rear shock tower is used?
DRC
7:06 Why no droop ?
I would think having some would give you road contact in case to have steer the car for correction.
. that is called sprung weight the suspension, that's to show people you don't have to add weight to the front of your car. use the suspension as you see the car pivots on its pickup point,. Which is created by weight distribution.. the front end doesn't leave the ground.. remember I didn't come up or create any of this it's all from the Bible Jerry Bickel book and I'm glad you're there really good questions... if you want some more in-depth chassis tuning and power management checkout radial tire racing
@@powermadracing5116 I will look into radial tire racing. I had gone to a 2 day chassis class held by Dave Morgan years ago. Don't know where his book went that I had bought, but the principles are the same as Jerry Bickel.
@@RichieCat4223 of course they have to be... it's the way it works, you can't fight physics. When you get into radial tire racing you will see how quick they really are... with no bars and a 315 radial , in the 8th mile 3.50s at 215 miles an hour .. check out Stevie fast Jackson also on RUclips... he's my hero LOL... you're going to laugh your ass off when you can really see what the separation looks like the car doesn't come down till they lift
@@powermadracing5116 OK thanks. By the way I put droop into my no prep cars. Curse me out if you like. Lol.
@@RichieCat4223 no not at all do it anyway you like if you're talkin about true no prep you would have to because you'll have no traction they basically put a weight set in the backseat you just can't fight physics... just so you know going up is not going forward so that is a wasted movement in drag racing. In the clock is ticking we're talking thousands of a second
What’s the part number for the best associated shocks for a dr10?
I used the associated B6 shocks on Black Betty ......,
Quick question what’s the size of limiters you using ?
It depends on the ride height you want
@@powermadracing5116 found my problem think my rear Springs were to stiff once I put a lighter spring and the limiter’s I’m able to set it up the way you
Show it on the video run i can put it down cause of the little bit and then I can still lift it up a little bit before it hits the limiter definitely going to try it thanks for the awesome videos you but out with knowledge
I run the same chassis as well but don’t have the Anti-roll yet
@@itshookn8155 sounds like you got it set up just right!!!! I promise once you get into the power management and stuff you will be very happy. Anything I can do to help let me know
The oil Is it HD 40
Hey Rufus I see you're digging ... I hope you're finding some good knowledge yes just regular straight weight is what I mean by 40... like say " not" 10w 40 .... straight 40 weight works well you know temperature affects the the oil so when it's hotter I run thicker oil when it's cooler I run thinner oil so the car reacts the same
got u like the old big blocks 40+ years ago hot u run thicker 20/50 cooler u run 10/30. If it's too damn hot you run treatment 👍🏿👍🏿yes I do my homework. Lol I taking this season very serious this year trying to prove a point 2 myself. Also my wife had a bout with Breast Cancer 6 month ago got surgery opt for the mastectomy she good now Dr said she ahead of schedule by like 8 months. So im spreading this make sure women get checked. My wife was blessed to come through this the way she did so dedicated my life with this RC thing to help as many as we can that's why that truck in my profile my wife she racing this year.👍🏿💪🏿 So yea you see what I'm trying to do. Thank you again. 💯
@@RazorRoo1989 Rufus my most sincere wishes and promises go out to your wife for a successful 100% recovery yes I can hear that you are a very smart and you will be successful together we will make sure
@@powermadracing5116 That gave me chill bumps. Thank you so much. Like I said you and Chad are like my shop teacher who gives a damn. I always try to help people no matter what I don't ask anything in return except that person I help to pass it on. RC is my outlet. I love it. Racing I love competition and the camaraderie. Again thank you. One day we're going to meet. Do you have a Facebook page?