request! sound quality are the preamps superior to the tf1? it seems to me only a smaller tf1, I don't think there are differences in sound... in sound quality!!! can anyone give me an answer?
Only YEARS of experience allows a FOH engineer to have such a cool, calm and collected demeanor (especially) whilst working a new (to him) piece of kit! Saying that...who wouldn't be confident mixing such a great and seasoned group of musicians as these!! Wish I had one of these setups back in the '70s when I was starting out! LOL Hats off to Yamaha for their dedication to making recording/mixing such a piece of cake for all us vets and newbs as well!
Looks like the perfect customer for the DM3 is someone who already owns one or more of the larger Yamaha consoles, as I do. I do many small setups where this compact mixer easily has enough inputs and outputs. The small size, light weight, and familiar control interface make it really easy. And yes I will keep my larger consoles for when I need more inputs and outputs.
Pretty sure it's already setup, the same way a TF would be. So every input goes out to USB, and on every channel you can select whether you listen from USB or Mic input. No patching screen probably.
Hi Gabo, thank you for your comment. Channels 1 - 14 were patched to USB channels 1 - 14 on the DAW (as standard), however you can assign each channel to any USB output you require with flexible patching! Provided you have the correct drive, you can set this up just like any other interface for recording by selecting it within your DAW settings. We hope this helps.
Excuse me for my noob question but if I want to record the band at the same time via cubase I need a Dante card? Or you can do it also with the dm3 standard?
Looks quite good, but the lack of physical buttons kinda worries me for a live situation to be honest. The on screen buttons look really really small. I think it is a good device for touring with a small band, but if everything on stage is getting more complicated I think I would not be happy with this mixer.
From what I gathered, you just tap on the screen and then twist the big knob to adjust that thing. So it's more of a 2 hand operation but you have access to your individual stuff so much quicker. X32 style knobs only work to some extent, yes there's muscle memory but you still have to push buttons to be in the right EQ band or get to the advanced parameters and adjust effects on the fly is kind of a nightmare unless you use the editing software on a computer or tablet. You could surround the display by knobs and have all the parameters around the edges of the screen but then the layout is the same everywhere and it gets confusing or you get the "parameter page 2" problem. As soon as you add more knobs it just adds complexity if the knobs do more than one thing.
I work on a Dlive system by allen and heath with a similar touch and turn system and it just works perfectly. We are all used to touchscreens so just tapping and the turning the same knob makes a lot of sense.
Awesome demo guys! Glad you dug the one knob compression. How'd you like the gain finder metering on the inputs? I love the guitar tuner type look. Also there a ton of channel presets that work quite well to get you close. It's all about speed! Great job Cheers!
Hi guys and thx very good video! But does this multi rec system work with the Mac:s pro logic as daw input and mixing? Still i wonder do i need dante version. Guess so..
You guys did a great demo on the Yamaha DM3, it would be great if you guys do the same for the Allen & Heath CQ 18T, so I will have a better comparison to buy one of the two.
If it has the Dugan auto mixer on it I’m getting one. My venue has a Revoge m10, two CL 5’s and a QL 5, as well as some TF racks and an old LS9. We also had a bunch of the Soundcraft/Studer Vi consoles, but since they killed the brand we went in this direction. The SSL stuff would be the only stuff more preferable in my opinion. This is gonna kill the “off the shelf” stuff like the mackie DL or the behringer/Midas x32 stuff. Having Dante on it is HUGE. I’m in a four space performing arts center, and being able to use the cat5/6e infrastructure is key, and it’ll serve as a trainer for new engineers for both the yamaha consoles and Dante
I disagree I’ve been waiting for something as small as this I don’t mix large acts mostly trio’s with tracks or small bands with only a few mics on drums, only trouble with this mixer is that it’s too expensive we need Behringer to make something a 1000 cheaper.
@@georgegeorgio1751 Behringer makes something that's 1000$ cheaper, it's called XR18. Spec for spec they're basically the same, Behringer has more features on single channel processing, 4 DCAs, 4 FX returns while the DM3 has 2 FX returns and a pair of matrixes.
@@edoardoallertsen No I need hands on faders not an iPad , Behringer can easily do something like the t.mix dm20 which go for a very cheap price I’ve used one for small 5 piece bands with no problems.
Great demonstration of the DM3. Thanks. Why is the sound the we hear from the band at the end so bad? Was it coming from the mixer of the on-camera mic?
Hello. Yes, the DM3 works great with DAWs. You can use the console's faders and buttons to control DAW operations such as volume adjustment, play and stop.
@@Gear4musicSynthsTech yes I know, but the smaller size of dm3 is so much better. TF1 is bigger and heavier. Hopefully Yamaha will add to it via firmware?
@@ntchi If Yamaha wants to move a whole lot of theses, they should add automix. The TF series did not have dugan automix when they were first released, but came with a 2017 firmware update. Let's hope they don't take 2 years to add it to the DM series.
GREAT! I have a question of preference though: Can I connect through Network Connection 2 Yamaha DM 3's and form a 32 channel system controllable from the 2 mixers but visible as 2 different audio sources in Logic Pro with individual IN's working at the same time in record and in playback modes?
Looks like a great new small format mixing console, could this be the long awaited successor of the famous 01X of the early 2000’s? I still have 1 working by the way, only in stand alone mode unfortunately as no current drivers.
Wow, the complexity. I run a Yamaha analogue desk at our church, this thing would be a nightmare in there as there are too many button pressers, and far too little knowledge. On Sunday I do my best, other times it has to kind of survive on it's own, I try and leave it in a generally usable state. Then I hear that XXX came in for a ???? and well all bets are off.
Analog is SOOO.. much more difficult than Digital. Once you make the switch, you will wonder how you did anything before. My advice is try a digital console, almost any, I don't like the TF but this series' GUI looks far superior. The X32 series is also a great digital mixer to learn on... but they have nothing this size and it looks perfect for some of my small churches.
Need please hear yamaha 1.automix 2. at least 6fx engine 3. Physical fader less 4. Daw support for external plugin support fully 5. 24ch mic pre amp(4stereo) 6. Studio grade plugin in build 7. Fully based on touch screen no physical fader
Size is great, but that yamaha software is really outdated, gate with out frequency filter is useless most os the times since low end will open every mic.
When I first saw this I thought should be a great mixer, and may be for some, but for me, there's no Android support for remote applications at this time, only iOS though Stagemix app (which has many issues) only 2 effect engines, no extra line in's such as the 4 currently used on my Touchmix 16, no Dante availability update for future expansion, must purchase the Dante model, only 1 headphone out, 2 on Touchmix. I was really wanting the DM 3 to be able to work for me, simply because I miss having faders on my Touchmix, but for my application not having Andorid capability was a deal breaker for me.
So I have the touchmix 16 that I haven't have very long and am wondering if I should turn it in for this Yamaha. Should I keep the qsc? Is it a better mixer in some way?
@@drummerjimmy51 It just depends on your application. As I said, I was first interested in the DM 3 when I saw the faders, and the size, but the more info I gathered I decided it wasn't for me. The Touchmix definitely has more features than the DM 3, but then again I havent heard a DM 3 yet. I like the Touchmix, but I've had issues such as, based on my model/s/n, the output capacitors were installed backwards at the factory, and I had to open it up to replace the caps due to failure on a few output channels. This issue is well documented on QSC forums. Also IMHO, I've never really like the EQ on the Touchmix. Its not very linear. Hard to find sweet spots. With all that said, I have a lot of experience with the Touchmix, and for me to change to another console, the console will need to be at least compatible to the Touchmix, with a few more features, which I was hoping the DM 3 would provide, but in my case it doesnt. Your mileage may vary however.
@@ezrashanti The reason I asked the question is because I’m upgrading my studio and I’m seeking the best choice in mixer. I don’t know what your comment actually meant other than your personal opinion.
@@Dante-qf9yd No worries. If you want to let me know what you have currently and your budget I'm happy to make suggestions. Typically for recording music, people will use an audio interface, however the SSL Big Six is an audio interface with a mixer, but with very very limited EQs. This Yamaha would probably not be giving you the recording features you want and giving you a bunch of other stuff to learn that is totally unnecessary and would be better done inside your DAW (recording / mixing software).
@@ezrashanti Thank you. Right now I have the Apogee Symphony, but it doesn’t have faders like a mixer. I haven’t used it yet because I have too many songs to mix when I recorded on my older Intel computer. So if I help out someone in the future, I want to be able to provide the best quality of sound, enough I/O for live performance and recording. That’s why I was asking. Currently I have money down on the SSL Big Six, but I don’t know if I’m making the right decision since I’m making major label sound with what I used. I don’t have it posted up on RUclips, only old songs that are not good as my current mixes. So I’m trying to decide what’s best for now. Thanks.
It's a shame any company remembers 2 key features: Multitrack recording direct to memory card or usb Some easy system to play Multitrack backing tracks with click track. My ideal mixer would play backing tracks from usb and record a multi track of the band on SDCard at the same time. Also, the backing track function would need footswitch control for starting the next song in the queue
Both DM3 models support multitrack recording via USB to Host, while simple 2-track recording is possible using a USB memory stick and the USB connector on the front of both consoles. The Dante-equipped DM3-D console also adds multitrack recording capability using the Dante Virtual Soundcard.
For this price tag and applications I'll go with Presonus 32SC, Yamaha DM3 sounds grate but lack of options found on Presonus at same price tag. I own presonus long time ago and never let me down or heared someone having problems with them. Also the diference between 48k and 96k is not relevant up to 16 even 32ch and not relevant either on size of room and PA will gone feed. imho I'll choose Presonus over this.
Presonus sucks on their after sales support. Not only that there is a big issue on compatibility on Presonus products exampale for their stage boxes the stage box that is produce last week is not compatible to any of the consoles being produced today that is so stupid. You don't hear any complain on Presonus because no one is using them on the markets.
same tf line software, same effects machines..., yamaha could invest a little more in updates for the brand's basic consoles. currently I think it's safer to invest in a tf1 and have fewer channels than to risk buying this new console, in the future it may be worth it
I can deal with switching from one set of tracks to another set of tracks. I don't like it, because there's always loss in immediacy, the possibility to make a mistake because someone talked to you and you don't realized you switched to another set of tracks! But the DEVIL is in the routing - the more flexible, the worse it is, really! - *has ROLAND managed to make some strides to remedy user error due to complexity* ?
Hello, the DM3 models support multi-track recording via USB to Host, as well as 2-track recording via USB memory stick. The Dante version of the DM3 also has recording capabilities using the Dante Virtual Soundcard.
@@helmanfrow Dante doesn't add inputs, Dante is a different source of input. The processing channels are still 16 mono and 1 stereo channel, same as an XR18. You can, on the other hand, use a TIO or other Dante-enabled stagebox to feed the channels from the Dante input. But it's still 16 mono, 1 stereo. 6 mono mixes, LR, 2 stereo FX returns and 2 matrices (I suppose to be linked in 1 stereo matrix). Very limited console for its budget in my opinion.
@@edoardoallertsen That's actually quite daft. If I knew that I needed a Dante stage box then why would I also pay for local IO if there's not enough processing to go 'round? Maybe it's for rental companies or contractors who sometime use local IO and sometimes Dante? Still an odd limitation on DSP. I almost can't believe it. I need to read the manual.
@@helmanfrow well the X32 has all the io at the back and still you can plug up to 48 channels via AES50 but it's still a 32 channel console. I don't know who thought of this mixer, but personally I really don't see why it exists.
I feel like all these demos are trying really hard to hide how laggy the touchscreen is. Watching him interact with it, it looked like he was afraid it was going to bite. Looks like a really cool little mixer though I’m just getting some “overpriced and under spec’ed” vibes.
I find it suspicious that the screen fades to black every time the engineer starts to change settings during sound sound check. I love Yamaha but this is just a worse version of the Yamaha TF
Hi Magic Mike we cropped some of the soundcheck to make the video a little shorter, rest assured we had absolutely no issues with this unit on the recording day!
The software is suited on bigger screens, it is too small on this screen. Easy to just click on the wrong stuff. My overall opinion: This mixer seems half done, and not done good.
You're spending so much time on FX - which is anyway the easiest thing of all on a mixer with more tracks than physical strips! WHERE are the details on channel set switching and routing, which is the hard part!
6 mono aux buses - that’s a joke in the modern world. Most bands use in ears these days, and that number of aux sends that a full band can only run them in mono
With Dante version you can expand this system with Yamaha Tio series. But I think is limited channel count in desks software because console layout only shows two fader banks channels 1-16. So it seems like same goes to outputs as well.. Do not know what the built in ethernet connection does. Hopefully you can chain two DM3 desk together and have 32 in 16 out desk. For the price it´s not impossible to do. For sure two DM3 Dante versions should be able to link together so that would give you option to have this kind of setup 32 in 16 out.
@@steakikan maybe but what you gain you loose. What does this have that, that doesn't? It's feature rich everyone wants there cake and to eat it too. All things considered including sonic quality, features and footprint what is better???? Because I want that. I want Dante and there is nothing this small with Dante I own 2 RMPD8'S can you imagine a better setup this small, I think not.
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Great demo from presenter and engineer and the band are excellent too, well done!
Thank you Ronnie!
request! sound quality are the preamps superior to the tf1? it seems to me only a smaller tf1, I don't think there are differences in sound... in sound quality!!!
can anyone give me an answer?
Only YEARS of experience allows a FOH engineer to have such a cool, calm and collected demeanor (especially) whilst working a new (to him) piece of kit! Saying that...who wouldn't be confident mixing such a great and seasoned group of musicians as these!!
Wish I had one of these setups back in the '70s when I was starting out! LOL
Hats off to Yamaha for their dedication to making recording/mixing such a piece of cake for all us vets and newbs as well!
I have a DM3 but am new to Yamahas, so this walk-through was valuable!
One of the best DM3 demonstration
Looks like the perfect customer for the DM3 is someone who already owns one or more of the larger Yamaha consoles, as I do. I do many small setups where this compact mixer easily has enough inputs and outputs. The small size, light weight, and familiar control interface make it really easy. And yes I will keep my larger consoles for when I need more inputs and outputs.
that sounded so clean
How do you get mix to play through the 1/4 headphone 🎧 jack
I really like that little mixer.
I would've liked if you'll explained how to set it up as an interface for recording.
Pretty sure it's already setup, the same way a TF would be. So every input goes out to USB, and on every channel you can select whether you listen from USB or Mic input. No patching screen probably.
Hi Gabo, thank you for your comment. Channels 1 - 14 were patched to USB channels 1 - 14 on the DAW (as standard), however you can assign each channel to any USB output you require with flexible patching! Provided you have the correct drive, you can set this up just like any other interface for recording by selecting it within your DAW settings. We hope this helps.
dugan? automixer? gainmixer? any would be ok to make it usable for corporate
Excuse me for my noob question but if I want to record the band at the same time via cubase I need a Dante card? Or you can do it also with the dm3 standard?
Looks quite good, but the lack of physical buttons kinda worries me for a live situation to be honest. The on screen buttons look really really small. I think it is a good device for touring with a small band, but if everything on stage is getting more complicated I think I would not be happy with this mixer.
From what I gathered, you just tap on the screen and then twist the big knob to adjust that thing. So it's more of a 2 hand operation but you have access to your individual stuff so much quicker.
X32 style knobs only work to some extent, yes there's muscle memory but you still have to push buttons to be in the right EQ band or get to the advanced parameters and adjust effects on the fly is kind of a nightmare unless you use the editing software on a computer or tablet.
You could surround the display by knobs and have all the parameters around the edges of the screen but then the layout is the same everywhere and it gets confusing or you get the "parameter page 2" problem.
As soon as you add more knobs it just adds complexity if the knobs do more than one thing.
I work on a Dlive system by allen and heath with a similar touch and turn system and it just works perfectly. We are all used to touchscreens so just tapping and the turning the same knob makes a lot of sense.
Awesome demo guys! Glad you dug the one knob compression. How'd you like the gain finder metering on the inputs? I love the guitar tuner type look. Also there a ton of channel presets that work quite well to get you close. It's all about speed! Great job Cheers!
Thank you John, we're glad you enjoyed it!
Just ordered one for my studio!
If there were 24 channels it would be fantastic.
Hi guys and thx very good video!
But does this multi rec system work with the Mac:s pro logic as daw input and mixing?
Still i wonder do i need dante version. Guess so..
Does it have internal storage other than the plug gable usb drive.
Very informative and helpful. Many thanks
Hi can you explain to a novice how to set this up to record to Cubase pro12 on Mac?
You guys did a great demo on the Yamaha DM3, it would be great if you guys do the same for the Allen & Heath CQ 18T, so I will have a better comparison to buy one of the two.
LOVE IT
Hi, can i run out from daw to DM3 and return into daw for mix-sum (L+R) via USB?
If it has the Dugan auto mixer on it I’m getting one. My venue has a Revoge m10, two CL 5’s and a QL 5, as well as some TF racks and an old LS9. We also had a bunch of the Soundcraft/Studer Vi consoles, but since they killed the brand we went in this direction.
The SSL stuff would be the only stuff more preferable in my opinion.
This is gonna kill the “off the shelf” stuff like the mackie DL or the behringer/Midas x32 stuff.
Having Dante on it is HUGE. I’m in a four space performing arts center, and being able to use the cat5/6e infrastructure is key, and it’ll serve as a trainer for new engineers for both the yamaha consoles and Dante
Fulford Arms !
Hi if I want to use the dm3 as a controller for Cubase,can you use more than 16 channels?
This is awesome.
This would be awesome if you could have 32 channels and 16 monitors
I totally agree
I disagree I’ve been waiting for something as small as this I don’t mix large acts mostly trio’s with tracks or small bands with only a few mics on drums, only trouble with this mixer is that it’s too expensive we need Behringer to make something a 1000 cheaper.
Still...1 rotary knob for everything...brrr.
@@georgegeorgio1751 Behringer makes something that's 1000$ cheaper, it's called XR18. Spec for spec they're basically the same, Behringer has more features on single channel processing, 4 DCAs, 4 FX returns while the DM3 has 2 FX returns and a pair of matrixes.
@@edoardoallertsen No I need hands on faders not an iPad , Behringer can easily do something like the t.mix dm20 which go for a very cheap price I’ve used one for small 5 piece bands with no problems.
Great demonstration of the DM3. Thanks. Why is the sound the we hear from the band at the end so bad? Was it coming from the mixer of the on-camera mic?
how to connect dm3 with personal in ear monitor system for each instrument?
does it come with Dan Dugan?
This is great! *I whish Yamaha could add 4 more outputs to a total of 12 (for a 7.1.4) and USB THUNDERBOLT with daisy chaining capabilities.
Does it work as DAW controller too?
Yes
Hello. Yes, the DM3 works great with DAWs. You can use the console's faders and buttons to control DAW operations such as volume adjustment, play and stop.
What the round trip latency at 24/bit96hz at 32 and 64 latency in Cuba’s or logic?
24 Channel version and a few more outputs please!
Can I select the patch point along the signal chain from which to take the USB output? On a per-channel basis?
Hi, thank for your comment. You can patch any channel to any USB output, the patching is completely flexible. We hope this helps.
@@Gear4musicSynthsTech You've definitely answered a question, just not the one I asked.
No worries; I'll read the user manual.
Wow, does the DM3 thing have automix feature for press conferences or panel discussions?
Hi there, currently the TF series and above feature the Dan Dugan automix feature.
@@Gear4musicSynthsTech yes I know, but the smaller size of dm3 is so much better. TF1 is bigger and heavier. Hopefully Yamaha will add to it via firmware?
@@ntchi If Yamaha wants to move a whole lot of theses, they should add automix. The TF series did not have dugan automix when they were first released, but came with a 2017 firmware update. Let's hope they don't take 2 years to add it to the DM series.
nothing beats THE DMX-R100
GREAT! I have a question of preference though: Can I connect through Network Connection 2 Yamaha DM 3's and form a 32 channel system controllable from the 2 mixers but visible as 2 different audio sources in Logic Pro with individual IN's working at the same time in record and in playback modes?
How many mics went to the drums?
Hi can you play wav files like backing tracks?Thanks for the video super.
Hello, we're glad you enjoyed the video! Yes, you are able to play back WAV files with the DM3.
@@Gear4musicSynthsTech When do you think they will come to europe?
How lucky was it finding a band that has a Yamaha bass, Yamaha drums etc! 😆
Can it do 320 bits with out heating up
DCA's ?
Don't like the way the screen freezes momentarily when a change is made. Hopefully this can be fixed.
Yeah lot of display lagging and freezing. They need to add a graphics processing unit
Nice!
Plus, if you drummer is playing a digital kit, you could free up a few channels.
Does any one know if you can do side chain to dynamic EQ?
Looks like a great new small format mixing console, could this be the long awaited successor of the famous 01X of the early 2000’s? I still have 1 working by the way, only in stand alone mode unfortunately as no current drivers.
That's what I keep thinking
Does Dante mean you can add a stage box?
yes is compatible with RIO and TIO stageboxes
@@OrlandoReyessonido Thank you
Would i buy it No i prefere Interfaces for Drums
Wow, the complexity. I run a Yamaha analogue desk at our church, this thing would be a nightmare in there as there are too many button pressers, and far too little knowledge. On Sunday I do my best, other times it has to kind of survive on it's own, I try and leave it in a generally usable state. Then I hear that XXX came in for a ???? and well all bets are off.
Analog is SOOO.. much more difficult than Digital. Once you make the switch, you will wonder how you did anything before. My advice is try a digital console, almost any, I don't like the TF but this series' GUI looks far superior. The X32 series is also a great digital mixer to learn on... but they have nothing this size and it looks perfect for some of my small churches.
Perfect small mix 🤔👍🏻
what‘s the name of this incredible musican‘s on your stage?
It’s the band 300ft Gorilla
This has 16 inputs. What if I need about 20 tracks; 16 plus 4 for 2 stereo keys example?
You run your keys thru the guitar amps and pray
Buy a larger digital mixer.
Get the Dante version
@@bojames7841 Dante version won't expand the number of processing channels you have on the desk.
You'll just need to buy a different console with more processing power.
Automixer?
Need please hear yamaha
1.automix
2. at least 6fx engine
3. Physical fader less
4. Daw support for external plugin support fully
5. 24ch mic pre amp(4stereo)
6. Studio grade plugin in build
7. Fully based on touch screen no physical fader
Totally agree
Totally agree 👍
I think your looking for a Waves LV1..
Also,Why the hate of faders?
Dude, how many time, and how many places have you posted this?😂
@@zagatoalfa everywhere
I wonder if it also comes the same terrible and bad pre-amps of the TF series because is is the same control surface…Anybody?
Size is great, but that yamaha software is really outdated, gate with out frequency filter is useless most os the times since low end will open every mic.
When I first saw this I thought should be a great mixer, and may be for some, but for me, there's no Android support for remote applications at this time, only iOS though Stagemix app (which has many issues) only 2 effect engines, no extra line in's such as the 4 currently used on my Touchmix 16, no Dante availability update for future expansion, must purchase the Dante model, only 1 headphone out, 2 on Touchmix. I was really wanting the DM 3 to be able to work for me, simply because I miss having faders on my Touchmix, but for my application not having Andorid capability was a deal breaker for me.
So I have the touchmix 16 that I haven't have very long and am wondering if I should turn it in for this Yamaha. Should I keep the qsc? Is it a better mixer in some way?
@@drummerjimmy51 It just depends on your application. As I said, I was first interested in the DM 3 when I saw the faders, and the size, but the more info I gathered I decided it wasn't for me. The Touchmix definitely has more features than the DM 3, but then again I havent heard a DM 3 yet. I like the Touchmix, but I've had issues such as, based on my model/s/n, the output capacitors were installed backwards at the factory, and I had to open it up to replace the caps due to failure on a few output channels. This issue is well documented on QSC forums. Also IMHO, I've never really like the EQ on the Touchmix. Its not very linear. Hard to find sweet spots. With all that said, I have a lot of experience with the Touchmix, and for me to change to another console, the console will need to be at least compatible to the Touchmix, with a few more features, which I was hoping the DM 3 would provide, but in my case it doesnt. Your mileage may vary however.
The dm3 will be used in a cover rock band.
To me the drums sounded very hollow not tight and beffy im sure its all in the adjustments.
info harga🎉
Does this mixer sound good as the SSL Big Six?
No 🤦
They are not competing products. This is digital.
@@ezrashanti The reason I asked the question is because I’m upgrading my studio and I’m seeking the best choice in mixer. I don’t know what your comment actually meant other than your personal opinion.
@@Dante-qf9yd No worries. If you want to let me know what you have currently and your budget I'm happy to make suggestions. Typically for recording music, people will use an audio interface, however the SSL Big Six is an audio interface with a mixer, but with very very limited EQs. This Yamaha would probably not be giving you the recording features you want and giving you a bunch of other stuff to learn that is totally unnecessary and would be better done inside your DAW (recording / mixing software).
@@ezrashanti Thank you. Right now I have the Apogee Symphony, but it doesn’t have faders like a mixer. I haven’t used it yet because I have too many songs to mix when I recorded on my older Intel computer. So if I help out someone in the future, I want to be able to provide the best quality of sound, enough I/O for live performance and recording. That’s why I was asking. Currently I have money down on the SSL Big Six, but I don’t know if I’m making the right decision since I’m making major label sound with what I used. I don’t have it posted up on RUclips, only old songs that are not good as my current mixes. So I’m trying to decide what’s best for now. Thanks.
Definitely borrowed a lot of features and layout from the QSC Touchmix. The touchscreen unfortunately looks just as laggy as the TM.
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It's a shame any company remembers 2 key features:
Multitrack recording direct to memory card or usb
Some easy system to play Multitrack backing tracks with click track.
My ideal mixer would play backing tracks from usb and record a multi track of the band on SDCard at the same time.
Also, the backing track function would need footswitch control for starting the next song in the queue
UI24r?
@@frankferrer it's a very good option. I think it still doesn't offer stand alone multi track backing track player...
Both DM3 models support multitrack recording via USB to Host, while simple 2-track recording is possible using a USB memory stick and the USB connector on the front of both consoles. The Dante-equipped DM3-D console also adds multitrack recording capability using the Dante Virtual Soundcard.
@@AntonioRockGP It does. 20 channels to and from a USB stick.
mxed after the performance.
For this price tag and applications I'll go with Presonus 32SC, Yamaha DM3 sounds grate but lack of options found on Presonus at same price tag. I own presonus long time ago and never let me down or heared someone having problems with them. Also the diference between 48k and 96k is not relevant up to 16 even 32ch and not relevant either on size of room and PA will gone feed. imho I'll choose Presonus over this.
I'll take Yamaha's long term support over Presonus any day. This looks like the centrepiece of my downsized studio...
Presonus sucks on their after sales support. Not only that there is a big issue on compatibility on Presonus products exampale for their stage boxes the stage box that is produce last week is not compatible to any of the consoles being produced today that is so stupid. You don't hear any complain on Presonus because no one is using them on the markets.
Their AVB system barely works with windows. Only mac.
Price & dealers in Bombay India
Dugan ?
Curious how it compares to the QSC TM6. Hopefully this touchscreen isn’t as laggy.
I have the touchmix 16 and I have the dm3 standard now. I'm planning on sending the touchmix back for a refund. The screen on this mixer is better
If only they hadn't put the fan on the side, I might have 2 of them stuck together to make a 32-ch board.
It would be helpful if you actually show how you connect it with the computer...
same tf line software, same effects machines..., yamaha could invest a little more in updates for the brand's basic consoles. currently I think it's safer to invest in a tf1 and have fewer channels than to risk buying this new console, in the future it may be worth it
the console sounds a lot better than a TF
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A small black tf series 😅
I can deal with switching from one set of tracks to another set of tracks. I don't like it, because there's always loss in immediacy, the possibility to make a mistake because someone talked to you and you don't realized you switched to another set of tracks!
But the DEVIL is in the routing - the more flexible, the worse it is, really!
- *has ROLAND managed to make some strides to remedy user error due to complexity* ?
They should've added multitrack recording
Hello, the DM3 models support multi-track recording via USB to Host, as well as 2-track recording via USB memory stick. The Dante version of the DM3 also has recording capabilities using the Dante Virtual Soundcard.
I believe it comes with DAW software.
@@Gear4musicSynthsTech I mean in standalone without a computer. Like Tascam Model 12
The problem is if I want to run stereo in-ears I need to get the Dante version and extra I/O hardware which costs as much as the console.
How is the Dante version going to expand the number of mixes this desk has? It's 6 mono mixes, it's got 8 outputs at the back, why do you need Dante?
@@edoardoallertsen Oh, only six mixes? And Dante is only good for adding inputs? That's kind of weird but okay.
@@helmanfrow Dante doesn't add inputs, Dante is a different source of input. The processing channels are still 16 mono and 1 stereo channel, same as an XR18. You can, on the other hand, use a TIO or other Dante-enabled stagebox to feed the channels from the Dante input. But it's still 16 mono, 1 stereo. 6 mono mixes, LR, 2 stereo FX returns and 2 matrices (I suppose to be linked in 1 stereo matrix). Very limited console for its budget in my opinion.
@@edoardoallertsen That's actually quite daft. If I knew that I needed a Dante stage box then why would I also pay for local IO if there's not enough processing to go 'round?
Maybe it's for rental companies or contractors who sometime use local IO and sometimes Dante?
Still an odd limitation on DSP. I almost can't believe it. I need to read the manual.
@@helmanfrow well the X32 has all the io at the back and still you can plug up to 48 channels via AES50 but it's still a 32 channel console. I don't know who thought of this mixer, but personally I really don't see why it exists.
I feel like all these demos are trying really hard to hide how laggy the touchscreen is. Watching him interact with it, it looked like he was afraid it was going to bite. Looks like a really cool little mixer though I’m just getting some “overpriced and under spec’ed” vibes.
92khz sampling isn't as good as 192khz, is it
I find it suspicious that the screen fades to black every time the engineer starts to change settings during sound sound check. I love Yamaha but this is just a worse version of the Yamaha TF
Hi Magic Mike we cropped some of the soundcheck to make the video a little shorter, rest assured we had absolutely no issues with this unit on the recording day!
Alhamdulillah 🇮🇩
Why should someone buy this and not something like Midas MR18? I think this mixer is 10 years behind ...
Looks like the attempt, to remove features from a X32 compact and to increase the price...
... to price of full X32
Anyone noticed the display glitching and freezing?
Not enough i/o
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Only 2 FX engines is very disappointing for live sound use, maybe fixed with a later firmware update.
The software is suited on bigger screens, it is too small on this screen. Easy to just click on the wrong stuff.
My overall opinion: This mixer seems half done, and not done good.
You forgot expensive. It’s very expensive!
You're spending so much time on FX - which is anyway the easiest thing of all on a mixer with more tracks than physical strips!
WHERE are the details on channel set switching and routing, which is the hard part!
6 mono aux buses - that’s a joke in the modern world. Most bands use in ears these days, and that number of aux sends that a full band can only run them in mono
With Dante version you can expand this system with Yamaha Tio series.
But I think is limited channel count in desks software because console layout only shows two fader banks channels 1-16.
So it seems like same goes to outputs as well..
Do not know what the built in ethernet connection does. Hopefully you can chain two DM3 desk together and have 32 in 16 out desk.
For the price it´s not impossible to do.
For sure two DM3 Dante versions should be able to link together so that would give you option to have this kind of setup 32 in 16 out.
Dude it's $2000 and it's small format well tiny format no one will do more than that at that size besides it's Dante just send more down Dante.
I'm almost sure they will make the DM6 version that will double everything.
@@wawilisoundsolutions3067 M20X does 8 bus though
@@steakikan maybe but what you gain you loose. What does this have that, that doesn't? It's feature rich everyone wants there cake and to eat it too. All things considered including sonic quality, features and footprint what is better???? Because I want that. I want Dante and there is nothing this small with Dante I own 2 RMPD8'S can you imagine a better setup this small, I think not.
Reverb on drums , yikes
Do you not put reverb on drums?
actually reverb on Snare and Kick sounds really good
Terrible mix