“...better (and cheaper) than Starbucks” - to be fair, that’s a pretty low bar 🤣 I’ve found many great cafes in the USA when travelling that easily are as good as those in Australia - the only difference was they were harder to find and were usually located outside the ‘flyover’ states 🤭 A true long black is a single espresso with hot water to make up a full cup. If you draw the espresso for too long you get all the bitter elements and it ruins the coffee. Piccolos are my go-to. They’re like a mini-flat white more than a mini-latte I think, but more concentrated as there is less milk. It’s about half the volume of a normal coffee.
A few years ago in Australia McDonald’s had an advertising campaign where they apologised for the bad coffee they had been offering and vowed to do better. While I wouldn’t go to McCafé by choice it is a lot better now. When you order coffee in Australia you specify the milk you want. Ie full cream, low fat, skim, almond, soy, lactose free etc. it is not specified on the menu but as a footnote.
More than that - the secret is the special milk for baristas... you can't buy it off the shelf, only from wholesalers. Different protein structure, denatures differently under heat.
A long black is a double shot of espresso with added water. It is similar to the way you drink black drip coffee except because it's made with Espresso it has a better flavour. I believe it is also similar to what you call an Americano but with a stronger Aroma and taste.
depending on the cafe the difference between long black and americano is whether you add espresso to the hot water or the hot water to the espresso. There isn't any difference in taste, however presentation differs (dissipation of the crema).
long black: espresso shot pulled onto hot water so the crema sits on top, means you can scoop it off if you want else you need to stir it americano: hot water poured onto espresso shot, no chance to scoop off the crema depending on how good the coffee grinder is, the crema can have fine grounds suspended in the foam which can taste bitter in Australia long black tastes very different to a filter coffee from light roasted beans, but if McCafe USA uses the same coffee beans for both drip and Americano they might taste similar
don’t need a separate “non-fat” or “decaf” line item. all you have to do is ask for skim or decaf on any of the coffee types when you order. Decaf or Soy might be 50c extra but skim will be the same price. also, where was the chocolate dusting on the cap? not a cap without the choc dust, otherwise it’s just a foamier than usual latte.
Yeah, you got it right...it’s usually a double shot on the top of already steaming double shot of water. You have to do it that way around so that the coffee still has a crema. I’m totally being a snob, but it also honestly does affect the flavour. Yeah, I’ve had a few moments in my life with travelling in Australia where I’ve had to have a maccas and I think the way I’d sum it up is that they’re not great coffees, but they’re still better than most coffees I’ve had in a North America.
It's so awesome to see Americans that know how to say Melbourne properly! You truly are committed to learning the most about places you possibly can. Really refreshing for us to see.
I used to go to a McCafe in my city Australia when they had real baristas, however, they cut out the real baristas and just put regular staff in the McCafes as a cost cutting measure the coffee became almost as bad as Starbucks dishwater.
It often depends on the individual stores. If the store is company owned there’s usually a trained barista (probably mid to late teens but still has done the course!) if you’re store is franchise operated they might just put the kid who had a couple of three hour training sessions on the job 🤣
Hey guys, really got into your videos recently. Really love your insights and warm demeanours. I’m from Sydney , near Burwood where you guys once ate. Keep up the great work and we hope you can come back and enjoy more of Australia soon.
The only time we get Maccas coffee is when travelling down to Brisbane from the Sunshine Coast, we get a sausage and egg burger for breakfast and a flat white. The coffees not bad, not café quality but good, the big bonus is it’s free for over 60’s 😋 with a burger.
A long black is effectively the same as an Americano. The difference between a long black and an Americano lies in what you pour first. A long black is made by pouring hot water into your cup, then adding espresso. An Americano is made by pouring espresso into the cup first, then the hot water.
A latte should just be coffee & steamed milk mixed, where as a cappuccino should be coffee, steamed milk & foam with distinctive layers. Generally a cappuccino is stronger coffee & less milky than a latte. Cappuccino generally comes with a shake of chocolate powder on top too.
Mmmm... A lot of places have choc powder on the capp foam but strictly speaking no chocolate should be involved. Capps made in Italy won't have choc powder. It's like the Free Parking house rule where you put taxes in the middle of the board and win them when you land on Free Parking. No such genuine rule.
Choc on top of CAP is an Oz only adaptation. Latte is 10 mm of foam Cap is 25 mm therefore more coffee to milk ratio = stronger coffee taste. Flatty is no or minimal foam like 1mm.
There's too many versions of what is what and most miss. For me there is only a short black (espresso), a long black (double espresso), cafe latte (flat white [no friggen foam{textured milk}, thus the flat]), cappuccino(espresso with foam{textured milk}[OK, chocolate dust on top if you like]), Mocha (Espresso + Hot Chocolate). These are traditional and centuries old. Edit: Oh, if a coffee is good enough you won't need sugar. If you need a sweetener then add milk.
I think McDonald’s Australia has been watching your videos because we know have smoothies on the menu 😂😂. Funny thing is, I thought about this video after I seen the ad for it 👍🏽
Piccolo/piccolo latte, piccolo is Italian for small so directly translates to small latte. They also should be made with a ristretto shot (Italian for restricted) which is approximately 3/4 of a espresso shot. The closest in NA is a Cortado.
My wife and I buy flat whites at Maccas McCafe here in Perth Western Australia all the time. It’s something we do a couple of times a week. You have to collect it from the McCafe counter too.
Can’t go past a flat white in my opinion. I have one every morning! I had a flat white at Maccas in Australia a few months ago and was very surprised, it was actually quite good. ☕️👍🏼
A babycino is an espresso sized cup with just the frothed milk sprinkled with powdered chocolate. It’s what you order for your kids when you have a real coffee. My grandson, aged 2 and some months loves them
Hello, In Aus we have for eg Latte on the menu, then you ask what type of milks there are, Maccas have skim, soy and normal. Local shops will often have some sort of soy free animal free as well. You just have to ask.
with all coffee's in Australia you can get any flouring added like caramel, hazelnut, vanilla, and any milk, full, skim, lactose, almond, soy, oat. and can mix and match also, there are tropical smoothies and mixed berry smoothies, but just like the frappes they are not actually made in the cafe area. and the long black is the same thing as the American. this is from someone that works a Mcdonalds in Australia.
Hi..long black ... yum ... espresso black but it MUST have a delicious layer of "creamer" on the top from the express machine... or its just black dishwater without that...
in australia we dont have "non-fat" as a separate option, when you order they ask what milk you would like from a large selection including non fat options
A standard traditional Iced Chocolate and Iced Coffee is either chocolate syrup/espresso, milk, a scoop of ice cream and cream on top. Most cafes serve them. Milkshakes are the same as the US but with no cream. Iced lattes are pretty new here and trendy atm that's why Maccas just introduced the flavoured ones for Summer. I prefer iced lattes to Iced coffee usually as they are healthier (espresso,milk and ice) and not so rich with all the ice cream and cream but I loved them growing up. I've been getting Maccas iced coffees all Summer haha.
I’m an Aussie and I never drink coffee at all but I drink a lot of tea but only English breakfast. I also order hot chocolate when I’m in a cafe etc. When we went to Europe in 2019 I ordered a lot of hot chocolate as we travelled Europe and the best I’ve ever had in my life was at a cafe at the Blue Grotto in Malta. It’s a long way to travel from Australia for another one though. Oh yeah! Marshmallows floating on top are a must if they offer them.
Melbourne Australia here. In warm weather, I always a coffee frappe with no cream from Maccas on my way to work, in cooler weather, it’s always a McCafé hot chocolate.
It all depends on what maccas you go to, some have the space to have the McCafe next to the service counter, but some larger Maccas have the McCafe seperate to the service counter where you collect your meal and then collect your coffee. Happy travels
McCafe was the only place I could get a real espresso based flat white where I lived while in Japan. I had to drive to the next town over so it was a real treat to get one from time to time.
Hi! Just to answer a few of your questions/make a few comments that I haven't seen yet in the comments... - This may vary from Maccas to Maccas, but the one I work at in Melbourne, we have full cream milk, skim (nonfat), almond, lactose free and soy all as options for every hot and iced drink (not for frappes though). - And we also recently added iced chai lattes to the menu :) - A piccolo latte, I believe, is pretty much just a mini latte! 1shot of espresso and then milk like a latte, but it's usually in the same size cup as an espresso shot/macchiato. - An iced chocolate is not the same as a chocolate milkshake. An iced chocolate can be made differently at different cafes, but at maccas we just use ice, milk, and a chocolate syrup. Some cafes also add ice cream. It's not blended though. A milkshake would likely not have the ice, and would have ice cream, and would be blended more I believe. (Correct me if I'm wrong, I probably didn't explain that very well either haha, hopefully that makes sense, but the main point is that they are different, and also all different to frappes). And I have a question! Do cappuccinos and mochas in America not have any chocolate powder on them? And mochas no foam either? :)
Thanks for the insider info 😊 and yeah most cafes in the US put cocoa powder or cinnamon on the top. And maybe whipped cream for mochas? Haha we don't drink them much so not sure!
The American menu seems to be filled out by listing non fat and caramel options for everything but in aus you can just ask for caramel to be added to any coffee as well as different kinds of milk be it skim, almond or whatever takes your fancy
Long Black and Americano are almost like cousins with similar history. The Americano came from US troops in Italy during WW2. Espresso was easily obtained but it was watered down to be similar to what Americans were used to. They poured hot water on top of the esspreso (important distinction), and was watered down quite a lot. Italians called this dirty water. The long black became particularly popular with Italian-Australians who migrated from Italy post war. They brought the "dirty water" recipe but altered it to make a long black. The two flaws that led to the name "dirty water" were fixed. The first Americano flaw is that by pouring water second, the process of making a true Americano disturbed the crema. Instead, espresso is poured onto water in a long black, keeping the crema intact. Secondly, a long black uses less water, more espresso (or sometimes both in a strong long black). This makes it quite a lot stronger than what US troops back in WW2 would have accepted. But tastes are changing. I have often thought that the Americano was more about caffeination and volume and long black was more about flavour over volume. These days, it's not uncommon to find that baristas in the US making a Americano will add the shot last - because keeping the crema not only looks better, but does add extra bitterness to that first sip.
Maccas used to have smoothies, but I think they were part of the regular menu rather than the cafe menu. The banana Berry smoothie was ace, I'm dirty they stopped them, we don't have any real decent smoothie options here in the outback where I live.
Nice video, thanks for risking yourselves by buying Maccas coffee. I worked for 2 US companies, travelled a lot from Melbourne and Sydney to Ann Arbor and New York. Needed coffee to keep going after jet lag. Settled on single or double espresso. Coffee hit not a lot of water, milk or sugar. It was also best way to see who could best make an espresso shot. Found Starbucks ok in US , different to UK, Singapore and Dubai. The small you have looks more like a medium or large in some other counties. Best coffee ever, Italy, single shot early in morning sit at bar in coffee shop with loud Italian voices all around. The shot is what is important, all the milk and sugar in the world can not compensate for a bad shot. Thanks again for video and hope to see you back in oz soon. PS New York had some good coffee places
Piccolo latte is served in the small espresso cup and is just a single shot of espresso topped with milk in the style of a latte. So literally a stronger, mini latte. Macchiato is similar in that it is served in the same, small espresso cup and is 1 shot of espresso but unlike the piccolo they don’t use the steamed milk, they just put a spoon of milk foam over the top of the espresso, very much stronger and closer to an espresso but almost smoother and thicker because of the milk foam.
Macdonalds Shake we call a thickshake which from other Americans describe it the same as a milkshake. The long black is the same as a Americano from my understanding. Our non fat is selectable via the option during checkout for our coffee selections not shakes. Hope this helps
with coffees here in aust customers can add caramel, vanilla, hazelnut syrup to their coffees, we also do lactose free, skim, full cream, almond milk in your coffees.
We have for example latte then at the end of the menu will have a list of the different syrup flavours to add if you choose. There will be a list of different milks if you have a preference. So for example I would order an Almond milk hazelnut latte.
You need to visit us when COVID is well gone. Why not start in Melbourne this time and try the McCafe at the top end of the "Paris End" of Collins Street, The kerbside tables are alongside busy traffic but the area is a great starting point for discovering how different Melbourne is to Sydney. Phil.
@@twotravelingkings As a follow on thought, and as an Oz Side Hustle, why don't you write to the CEO's of the major Coffee Companies in Sydney and Melbourne, and ask them if there Advertising Agency would be interested in sponsoring a RUclips based "Advertorial" based on your 2-4 week return to Sydney and Melbourne to catchup on the sightseeing and coffee drinking that was bought to an early end by COVID. I have Sales and Marketing Director experience in the largest Corporations in Australia and I can assure you that what a competent Marketing Director needs is a Concept because the implementation is what the Marketing executive is paid to do. All you need to do is write a one page (Maximum) letter and attach a reference to your Coffee videos, which explain themselves. I would offer to set it up for you, because it would be fun, but I have been in a single closed room in a COVID 19 Recovery Facility in Melbourne, for the last 10 weeks, after spending the previous 12 weeks in Emergency Intensive Care Ward at The Alfred Hospital. But I am not complaining, because when I was admitted to The Alfred Hospital late at night, the Nurse in Charge said I would not live more than two days because the infection was so advanced. Early the next morning the Doctor in Charge said I would not see the day out. But as President Trump was fond of saying, it was ....... "False News", but I cannot walk unassisted and I expect to be in Recovery for another 3 months. But good things happen to good people, and the communication skills that you have both shown on your self made videos are what impressed me. And with just a little bit of luck you may be able to use them to further entrench yourselves in the Aussie Life Style. Phil.
Great video, have just had my second flat white for the morning...via my Nespresso machine. Do you both like capsule coffee? Macca's coffee is ok but it used to be better, we went to a Star bucks in Beijing...it was ok as that all there was but I won't be going back to Star Bucks. The only Starbuck I like is on Battlestar Galactica!!
I got coffee at Maccas back when they offered it free to healthcare workers last year. I found the standard ranged from OK to (surprisingly) pretty good - depending on who was making the coffee. You could certainly get better coffee, but I'm not going to argue with free. You can actually also find good coffee throughout US/Canada as long as you trawl through the google maps reviews for highest rated cafes/find a coffee review website for the city you're in. It might be less practical for a local that probably wants to have a decent coffee shop in an accessible/convenient location to go to regularly, but as a tourist meandering through the city on a whim; it works great.
You are correct, a long black (certainly in New Zealand) is two shots of expresso with some hot water. Depending on the cafe the water is in the cup or in a jug so that you can add water to taste. I tend to have a triple shot long black in a tulip (small cup) so that the barrister can't add too much water. I didn't drink much coffee when I last visited the US so I don't have anything to compare, but when I visited the UK five years ago and asked for a triple shot long black I either got a blank look or a massive cup filled to the brim with water, diluting the coffee to the point that you could hardly taste it. Fortunately on my return journey I spent a week in Italy where the coffee was truly great.
I didn't see if anyone else wrote it about our Aussie McCafe's or anywhere you buy your coffee's when you're out and about (dining in or take away), you can specify which type of milk you'd like in it, so for Jenny, just as an example, re: your love of flat whites, you can have regular milk (full cream milk), skim milk (non fat), soy milk and other milk types. You just have to specify your milk type preference, sometimes they'll ask you ;-) any coffee you have milk in, you just specify what kind of milk you'd like :) and for the long black in Australia - basically, that's just black coffee (no milk) lol. Probably similar to your filtered coffee machine in your home! :D Your videos are pretty cool to watch as an Aussie - I live up in sunny Qld, though obviously when you guys were here, was when the bushfires were raging - it was the worst in the last century, that's for sure. They actually started up here in SE QLD and as it had been a drought, the bush (forested) areas went ablaze with the speed and ferocity as if someone had poured fuel over something akin to 40,000 hectares from Queensland to Victoria - so many people lost homes, livelihoods, livestock, pets, their own lives trying to protect their homes, but when the fire's burning that hot - rather like what the California wild fires must be like I'd imagine, and you get fire tornados, it's scary stuff. The first of the fires started in September 2019 up here in south east Queensland, more recently the weathers gone the other way and we've been having really severe floods (*eye roll*) which was really bad in so many places, but again affected the entire eastern seaboard of Australia, meanwhile, Western Australia was on fire instead... Eh, such as life in Australia! Check out a poem written in the 1906, about Australia, Dorothea Mackellar's famous poem “My Country” :D
I love how you compared the menus, it was heaps interesting. I've never had filter coffee as it isn't common here but would be keen to try it. I don't like the cups the US coffees are shown in for some reason haha prob bc I'm not used to them. Also, why are some coffees served with cream on top? Is that a common thing in the states? Also is there a seperate window to collect the coffee at the drivethru like here?
So interesting! Love the differences 😊 and if you do try filter coffee you want a fancy pour over. Fairly common yes for a "fancy" coffee to have whipped cream on top. And nope same window!
The first thing they ask when you order a coffee at maccas is if its ‘full cream’ or not. My standard order is a large flat white, on full cream, with an extra shot and two sugars. Maccas are notorious for not stirring the sugar in. They used to be notorious for making it way too hot, but they stopped that after a few spills in drive thru.
Love these vids! Long black is a black coffee.. but it's water first then the shot on top so you still get the crema. It's the opposite of an americano which is shot of coffee first, then water. Piccolo latte is a latte with 3/4 the amount of milk so it's stronger and smaller.
An Americano is essentially a long black which is just a shot of coffee mixed with some hot water (usually 1 shot every 8oz of water). The difference is usually that an Americano is filtered coffee.
4.90 for a medium latte from my Maccas. Not exactly a bargain, but it can be pretty good depending on who makes it. Bunnings has a cafe and they make pretty good coffee too. A popular drink in South Australia is Farmers Union Iced Coffee, which is a prepackaged drink you can buy pretty much anywhere that has a fridge, even Maccas. It's sells more than Coca Cola.
You two are just lovely genuine people. It a pleasure watching your videos. I’m glad you enjoyed your time with us downunder despite having to endure the lockdown. Feel free to migrate back if you get a chance. Love that you like vegemite. There area few other Aussie icons it seems you missed A classic “Bunnings” sausage sizzle A Golden Gaytime (the best ice cream lolly ever) Banana bread is everywhere Finally as a coffee geek it’s my impression that An Americano and a long black are almost the same. Americano is espresso with water on top. Long black is espresso on top of hot water (this preserves the “crema” for a richer taste
I love the U.S. version of “small”. It would be a medium, verging on large in Australia. I don’t personally do Maccas but it is often the only choice for coffee on night shift. Love your videos, thankyou both.
Latte and Cappuccino should be mostly hot milk on top of a double espresso shot. Cappuccino adds milk foam and chocolate powder on top. Yours looked like American coffee with powdered milk added.
A Mocha in Australia is basically a latte with a shot of chocolate - or a hot chocolate with a shot of coffee! There’s always a foam top on one though. I once explained that to a cafe in Italy not realising that Italian hot chocolates are thick! So the ‘mocha’ I got in Italy with a thick hot coffee chocolate concoction!
Hi In Australia you order your coffee and your meal and it does come from two counters as well as when you order for a drive-through is it true $.10 for every sale in America the coffee goes back to Australia
I go for the real coffee shake when looking for a cold drink. My usual is a dirty chai, a chai latte with a shot of espresso - I know right, tea and coffee but it just works. 😀. With the no fat options, we can customise our coffee on the app and choose full fat or skim as well as other choices like soy milk, etc. Love your videos. Will remember to get a latte if I am over there.
Don't forget guys Australia has been judged to have the best baristas in the world . At McCafe In Australia you get your coffee at the cafe and if you want hash browns you go to the other counter.
Would you get a coffee at Macca's in the US? We were actually surprised, it was better (and cheaper) than Starbucks :)
Do you get on the app on your phone in the 'my rewards' buy five coffees get one free? Bonus coffee ;-)
@@O2BSoLucky yes we do! Almost there 😊
“...better (and cheaper) than Starbucks” - to be fair, that’s a pretty low bar 🤣
I’ve found many great cafes in the USA when travelling that easily are as good as those in Australia - the only difference was they were harder to find and were usually located outside the ‘flyover’ states 🤭
A true long black is a single espresso with hot water to make up a full cup. If you draw the espresso for too long you get all the bitter elements and it ruins the coffee. Piccolos are my go-to. They’re like a mini-flat white more than a mini-latte I think, but more concentrated as there is less milk. It’s about half the volume of a normal coffee.
@@nitramluap piccolos sound good! Will give it a try next time we're in straya
Everything is better than Starbucks.
In Australia you select the style of milk: full cream, low fat, skim etc.
Cheers 😊
I just want milk that tastes like real milk🤣😂🤣😂(from the tv ad)
Or if you are like me, select the Soy option.
@@Stells555 or the new Milklab almond is actually heaps nice. Not watery and almond essency like normal almond milk which I find gross.
Yep, I don’t like coffee so I will order a skinny chai latte - which is skim milk with chai (tea) flavoured with cinnamon and other spices
McDonald's used to do filter coffee but very few people in Australia like it. When they introduced McCafe the filtered coffee was discontinued.
Smart move lol
Australians don’t like it because filter coffee burns the coffee and makes it taste nasty. 🤢
The filtered stuff was great after a night-shift, to wake me up, but otherwise wasn't very good.
Tim Horton’s make good filtered coffee. Next best thing would be Dunkin’s. But that’s if you’re really desperate.
Jenny is a proper coffee snob. I love it! ☕️
Lol that she is 😊
@@twotravelingkings she have bag packed ready to get Australia the minute she can.
Coffee is Serious stuff, thoroughly agree :-)
A few years ago in Australia McDonald’s had an advertising campaign where they apologised for the bad coffee they had been offering and vowed to do better. While I wouldn’t go to McCafé by choice it is a lot better now. When you order coffee in Australia you specify the milk you want. Ie full cream, low fat, skim, almond, soy, lactose free etc. it is not specified on the menu but as a footnote.
They're getting there!
Yeah, it’s kinda just assumed that if you say latte then you mean full cream milk....
More than that - the secret is the special milk for baristas... you can't buy it off the shelf, only from wholesalers. Different protein structure, denatures differently under heat.
Fun fact. When I was working in a cafe in my uni days espresso was also called a short black. So there was a short black and a long black.
👍 good to know!
Yes McCafe Australia works the same way that you just described the cafe in Hong Kong.
Thanks for confirming 😊
McCafe actually started in Melbourne, Australia, before rolling out worldwide
Smart move!
Nah it was actually Sydney
Melbourne*
A long black is a double shot of espresso with added water. It is similar to the way you drink black drip coffee except because it's made with Espresso it has a better flavour. I believe it is also similar to what you call an Americano but with a stronger Aroma and taste.
depending on the cafe the difference between long black and americano is whether you add espresso to the hot water or the hot water to the espresso. There isn't any difference in taste, however presentation differs (dissipation of the crema).
long black: espresso shot pulled onto hot water so the crema sits on top, means you can scoop it off if you want else you need to stir it
americano: hot water poured onto espresso shot, no chance to scoop off the crema
depending on how good the coffee grinder is, the crema can have fine grounds suspended in the foam which can taste bitter
in Australia long black tastes very different to a filter coffee from light roasted beans, but if McCafe USA uses the same coffee beans for both drip and Americano they might taste similar
Good to know! Thanks everyone 😊
Loving these USA vs Australia comparison videos!! Keep them coming!
Will do 😊
@12:16 "see how it's getting wrinkly" - that means the milk was scalded ie over heated, poor steam control on the part of the barista.
Oof 😅
don’t need a separate “non-fat” or “decaf” line item. all you have to do is ask for skim or decaf on any of the coffee types when you order. Decaf or Soy might be 50c extra but skim will be the same price.
also, where was the chocolate dusting on the cap? not a cap without the choc dust, otherwise it’s just a foamier than usual latte.
Missed that chocolate dusting!
Yeah, you got it right...it’s usually a double shot on the top of already steaming double shot of water. You have to do it that way around so that the coffee still has a crema. I’m totally being a snob, but it also honestly does affect the flavour. Yeah, I’ve had a few moments in my life with travelling in Australia where I’ve had to have a maccas and I think the way I’d sum it up is that they’re not great coffees, but they’re still better than most coffees I’ve had in a North America.
True, good to know!
It's so awesome to see Americans that know how to say Melbourne properly! You truly are committed to learning the most about places you possibly can. Really refreshing for us to see.
We try! :) We enjoyed our brief visit to Melbourne
If you want a low fat option with your coffee, just ask for skinny milk as opposed to the regular milk.
👍 nice
I used to go to a McCafe in my city Australia when they had real baristas, however, they cut out the real baristas and just put regular staff in the McCafes as a cost cutting measure the coffee became almost as bad as Starbucks dishwater.
Oof, doesn't sound good!
I made the mistake if ordering one once. Bleeeeeeee. Never, never,never again.
It often depends on the individual stores. If the store is company owned there’s usually a trained barista (probably mid to late teens but still has done the course!) if you’re store is franchise operated they might just put the kid who had a couple of three hour training sessions on the job 🤣
Depend on the reataurant i guess. Some maccas do train their barista.
Depends on the franchise, the one down the road do a decent flat white
Smoothies were on the menu in Australia.
I’m not sure if they were canceled or if they come back as a special like the McRib
Haha fair enough
I think you're right. I've definitely ordered them before. Maybe it's a summer option to compete with Boost juice.
There's tropical and mixed berry smoothies on the menu right now.
@@achiruel where?
Maybe it’s regional?
The real coffee shake is made with real Espresso rather than a coffee syrup.
Sounds tasty
You have to try the coffee mocha and the coffee trap I think you'll love it
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Hey guys, really got into your videos recently. Really love your insights and warm demeanours. I’m from Sydney , near Burwood where you guys once ate. Keep up the great work and we hope you can come back and enjoy more of Australia soon.
Thanks for the support and kind words! Means a lot 😊
Flavours in the latte are not mentioned on the menu but you can add them as an extra.
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The only time we get Maccas coffee is when travelling down to Brisbane from the Sunshine Coast, we get a sausage and egg burger for breakfast and a flat white. The coffees not bad, not café quality but good, the big bonus is it’s free for over 60’s 😋 with a burger.
Nice!
We also have lactose free milk option, soy (blechh), almond milk.
Nice!
And oat milk. I defy anyone to try milking an almond, an oat flake, or a soy bean....really hard to fit the teats on.
@@triarb5790 need a microscope and specialised tweezers 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@triarb5790 🤣🤣🤣🤣
In Australia you just ask for skim milk for the non fat options. We just don't need to spell it out.
Haha nice 😊
Or we say “skinny”. Skinny flat white, skinny latté etc.
Soy wheat cow goat 🐐
@@timmcgrath676 ..oat, almond, kangaroo, wombat!
Yes, you guys have to come back. There are just so many things that you missed out on over here.
We agree 😊
I'd like you to go into the store and see if they have an espresso machine like the ones you find here in Australia.
Can't right now because of you know what but might have to make a follow up video 😊
A long black is effectively the same as an Americano.
The difference between a long black and an Americano lies in what you pour first. A long black is made by pouring hot water into your cup, then adding espresso. An Americano is made by pouring espresso into the cup first, then the hot water.
Good to know!
A latte should just be coffee & steamed milk mixed, where as a cappuccino should be coffee, steamed milk & foam with distinctive layers. Generally a cappuccino is stronger coffee & less milky than a latte.
Cappuccino generally comes with a shake of chocolate powder on top too.
Yeah they were missing that chocolate powder!
Mmmm... A lot of places have choc powder on the capp foam but strictly speaking no chocolate should be involved. Capps made in Italy won't have choc powder. It's like the Free Parking house rule where you put taxes in the middle of the board and win them when you land on Free Parking. No such genuine rule.
Choc on top of CAP is an Oz only adaptation. Latte is 10 mm of foam Cap is 25 mm therefore more coffee to milk ratio = stronger coffee taste. Flatty is no or minimal foam like 1mm.
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There's too many versions of what is what and most miss. For me there is only a short black (espresso), a long black (double espresso), cafe latte (flat white [no friggen foam{textured milk}, thus the flat]), cappuccino(espresso with foam{textured milk}[OK, chocolate dust on top if you like]), Mocha (Espresso + Hot Chocolate). These are traditional and centuries old.
Edit: Oh, if a coffee is good enough you won't need sugar. If you need a sweetener then add milk.
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I think McDonald’s Australia has been watching your videos because we know have smoothies on the menu 😂😂. Funny thing is, I thought about this video after I seen the ad for it 👍🏽
Lol they're watching..
Piccolo/piccolo latte, piccolo is Italian for small so directly translates to small latte. They also should be made with a ristretto shot (Italian for restricted) which is approximately 3/4 of a espresso shot.
The closest in NA is a Cortado.
Good to know, thank you! 😊
Love these videos. Keep them coming :)
Will do! 😊
My wife and I buy flat whites at Maccas McCafe here in Perth Western Australia all the time. It’s something we do a couple of times a week. You have to collect it from the McCafe counter too.
Good to know!
My Starbucks order in USA was a double strength latte no foam it was before they put flat whites on the menu
We didn't like the starbucks flat white 😬
@@twotravelingkings I don’t blame you 🤮
Love the vids guys. Such a great vibe from you two.
Thanks so much 😊 we appreciate the support
Can’t go past a flat white in my opinion. I have one every morning! I had a flat white at Maccas in Australia a few months ago and was very surprised, it was actually quite good. ☕️👍🏼
Nice!
Also if you are wondering what a flat white is it's basically a cappuccino without the frothed milk and chocolate dusting
Not that I didn't enjoy the rest of your video, but I loved the personality in the bloopers at the end. Let's see more of that 😁
Haha there's usually always some bloopers, will keep them coming 😊
Literally got an ad for an espresso maker after this. 😂
Lol 😂
Australian Macca's Coffee can be very hit and miss. It has improved since they started, but should be avoided unless desperate.
Haha 😂
i agree, there are plenty of cafes to go to for true coffee lovers.
McCafe is a last resort for sure. Handy for 4am drive thru for me though, being a shift worker 👌
Yup, we've been spoiled by a well developed coffee/café culture for some time
Aussie Maccas also offers the syrup versions the US does. You just ask for the syrups to be added. Hazelnut, vanilla, caramel etc.
Good to know!
This channel deserves more subscribers! Come on internet! Hello from UK 🇬🇧
Cheers! Thanks for the support 😊 we're getting there!
In Australia a babycino is a small cup of milk foam with a shake of chocolate powder
Fun 😊
Nice work with the foam on cappuccino that you received.
Was good!
A babycino is an espresso sized cup with just the frothed milk sprinkled with powdered chocolate. It’s what you order for your kids when you have a real coffee. My grandson, aged 2 and some months loves them
Sounds tasty 😊 thanks for the explanation!
Hello, In Aus we have for eg Latte on the menu, then you ask what type of milks there are, Maccas have skim, soy and normal. Local shops will often have some sort of soy free animal free as well. You just have to ask.
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You called it Macca's yeah. The foams on the coffee is coarse it needs to be tighter foam.
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Babycino is frothed milk for the kids so they can have a cuppa with their parents. It's pretty cute.
Sounds nice 😊
with all coffee's in Australia you can get any flouring added like caramel, hazelnut, vanilla, and any milk, full, skim, lactose, almond, soy, oat. and can mix and match
also, there are tropical smoothies and mixed berry smoothies, but just like the frappes they are not actually made in the cafe area. and the long black is the same thing as the American.
this is from someone that works a Mcdonalds in Australia.
Good to know! Thanks for the info 😊
Next time you guys need to come to Brisbane! We have the best coffee!
Sounds good 😊
Hi..long black ... yum ... espresso black but it MUST have a delicious layer of "creamer" on the top from the express machine... or its just black dishwater without that...
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7:07 When they make the drink they ask if you what skim, hilo (low fat) or full cream.
a long black has a similar makeup to the americano but a bit less water in it and therefore a bit stronger. preperation is slightly different too.
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in australia we dont have "non-fat" as a separate option, when you order they ask what milk you would like from a large selection including non fat options
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A standard traditional Iced Chocolate and Iced Coffee is either chocolate syrup/espresso, milk, a scoop of ice cream and cream on top. Most cafes serve them. Milkshakes are the same as the US but with no cream. Iced lattes are pretty new here and trendy atm that's why Maccas just introduced the flavoured ones for Summer. I prefer iced lattes to Iced coffee usually as they are healthier (espresso,milk and ice) and not so rich with all the ice cream and cream but I loved them growing up. I've been getting Maccas iced coffees all Summer haha.
The iced chocolate sounds so good! Not something you'll find in the US
I’m an Aussie and I never drink coffee at all but I drink a lot of tea but only English breakfast. I also order hot chocolate when I’m in a cafe etc. When we went to Europe in 2019 I ordered a lot of hot chocolate as we travelled Europe and the best I’ve ever had in my life was at a cafe at the Blue Grotto in Malta. It’s a long way to travel from Australia for another one though. Oh yeah! Marshmallows floating on top are a must if they offer them.
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Melbourne Australia here. In warm weather, I always a coffee frappe with no cream from Maccas on my way to work, in cooler weather, it’s always a McCafé hot chocolate.
Sounds good 😊
It all depends on what maccas you go to, some have the space to have the McCafe next to the service counter, but some larger Maccas have the McCafe seperate to the service counter where you collect your meal and then collect your coffee. Happy travels
Fair enough
McCafe was the only place I could get a real espresso based flat white where I lived while in Japan. I had to drive to the next town over so it was a real treat to get one from time to time.
Worth it I'm sure!
In Aus they offer full cream milk or not. Same range just whatever milk you want.
Good to know!
Hi! Just to answer a few of your questions/make a few comments that I haven't seen yet in the comments...
- This may vary from Maccas to Maccas, but the one I work at in Melbourne, we have full cream milk, skim (nonfat), almond, lactose free and soy all as options for every hot and iced drink (not for frappes though).
- And we also recently added iced chai lattes to the menu :)
- A piccolo latte, I believe, is pretty much just a mini latte! 1shot of espresso and then milk like a latte, but it's usually in the same size cup as an espresso shot/macchiato.
- An iced chocolate is not the same as a chocolate milkshake. An iced chocolate can be made differently at different cafes, but at maccas we just use ice, milk, and a chocolate syrup. Some cafes also add ice cream. It's not blended though. A milkshake would likely not have the ice, and would have ice cream, and would be blended more I believe. (Correct me if I'm wrong, I probably didn't explain that very well either haha, hopefully that makes sense, but the main point is that they are different, and also all different to frappes).
And I have a question! Do cappuccinos and mochas in America not have any chocolate powder on them? And mochas no foam either?
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Thanks for the insider info 😊 and yeah most cafes in the US put cocoa powder or cinnamon on the top. And maybe whipped cream for mochas? Haha we don't drink them much so not sure!
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From an American living in Melbourne.
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The American menu seems to be filled out by listing non fat and caramel options for everything but in aus you can just ask for caramel to be added to any coffee as well as different kinds of milk be it skim, almond or whatever takes your fancy
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We have been asking "can i get a flat white mate" in the US for 2 years now with limited success. Enjoyed your adventure
Let us know if you find anything good 😊
No chocolate on the cappuccino I noticed
Yes! They missed it
Long Black and Americano are almost like cousins with similar history.
The Americano came from US troops in Italy during WW2. Espresso was easily obtained but it was watered down to be similar to what Americans were used to. They poured hot water on top of the esspreso (important distinction), and was watered down quite a lot.
Italians called this dirty water. The long black became particularly popular with Italian-Australians who migrated from Italy post war. They brought the "dirty water" recipe but altered it to make a long black.
The two flaws that led to the name "dirty water" were fixed. The first Americano flaw is that by pouring water second, the process of making a true Americano disturbed the crema. Instead, espresso is poured onto water in a long black, keeping the crema intact. Secondly, a long black uses less water, more espresso (or sometimes both in a strong long black). This makes it quite a lot stronger than what US troops back in WW2 would have accepted. But tastes are changing. I have often thought that the Americano was more about caffeination and volume and long black was more about flavour over volume.
These days, it's not uncommon to find that baristas in the US making a Americano will add the shot last - because keeping the crema not only looks better, but does add extra bitterness to that first sip.
It all makes sense now! Thanks for the info 😊
Maccas used to have smoothies, but I think they were part of the regular menu rather than the cafe menu. The banana Berry smoothie was ace, I'm dirty they stopped them, we don't have any real decent smoothie options here in the outback where I live.
Interesting!
Never heard of an Americano at any cafe's I have frequented, don't know about Macca's but don't recall that on the menu.
It’s basically a long black.
@@JustinThomas7 ah ok, thanks!
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Nice video, thanks for risking yourselves by buying Maccas coffee. I worked for 2 US companies, travelled a lot from Melbourne and Sydney to Ann Arbor and New York.
Needed coffee to keep going after jet lag. Settled on single or double espresso. Coffee hit not a lot of water, milk or sugar. It was also best way to see who could best make an espresso shot. Found Starbucks ok in US , different to UK, Singapore and Dubai.
The small you have looks more like a medium or large in some other counties.
Best coffee ever, Italy, single shot early in morning sit at bar in coffee shop with loud Italian voices all around.
The shot is what is important, all the milk and sugar in the world can not compensate for a bad shot.
Thanks again for video and hope to see you back in oz soon. PS New York had some good coffee places
We heard about some good places in New York! Thanks for watching 😊
In regards to Mocha, they charge you extra if you add a flavour.
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Piccolo latte is served in the small espresso cup and is just a single shot of espresso topped with milk in the style of a latte. So literally a stronger, mini latte. Macchiato is similar in that it is served in the same, small espresso cup and is 1 shot of espresso but unlike the piccolo they don’t use the steamed milk, they just put a spoon of milk foam over the top of the espresso, very much stronger and closer to an espresso but almost smoother and thicker because of the milk foam.
Good to know thanks! Definitely would give a piccolo latte a try. Sounds great 😊
Macdonalds Shake we call a thickshake which from other Americans describe it the same as a milkshake. The long black is the same as a Americano from my understanding. Our non fat is selectable via the option during checkout for our coffee selections not shakes. Hope this helps
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with coffees here in aust customers can add caramel, vanilla, hazelnut syrup to their coffees, we also do lactose free, skim, full cream, almond milk in your coffees.
Good to know!
We have for example latte then at the end of the menu will have a list of the different syrup flavours to add if you choose. There will be a list of different milks if you have a preference. So for example I would order an Almond milk hazelnut latte.
Ahh gotcha
You need to visit us when COVID is well gone. Why not start in Melbourne this time and try the McCafe at the top end of the "Paris End" of Collins Street, The kerbside tables are alongside busy traffic but the area is a great starting point for discovering how different Melbourne is to Sydney. Phil.
Solid plan 😊 thanks Phil
@@twotravelingkings As a follow on thought, and as an Oz Side Hustle, why don't you write to the CEO's of the major Coffee Companies in Sydney and Melbourne, and ask them if there Advertising Agency would be interested in sponsoring a RUclips based "Advertorial" based on your 2-4 week return to Sydney and Melbourne to catchup on the sightseeing and coffee drinking that was bought to an early end by COVID. I have Sales and Marketing Director experience in the largest Corporations in Australia and I can assure you that what a competent Marketing Director needs is a Concept because the implementation is what the Marketing executive is paid to do. All you need to do is write a one page (Maximum) letter and attach a reference to your Coffee videos, which explain themselves.
I would offer to set it up for you, because it would be fun, but I have been in a single closed room in a COVID 19 Recovery Facility in Melbourne, for the last 10 weeks, after spending the previous 12 weeks in Emergency Intensive Care Ward at The Alfred Hospital. But I am not complaining, because when I was admitted to The Alfred Hospital late at night, the Nurse in Charge said I would not live more than two days because the infection was so advanced. Early the next morning the Doctor in Charge said I would not see the day out. But as President Trump was fond of saying, it was ....... "False News", but I cannot walk unassisted and I expect to be in Recovery for another 3 months.
But good things happen to good people, and the communication skills that you have both shown on your self made videos are what impressed me.
And with just a little bit of luck you may be able to use them to further entrench yourselves in the Aussie Life Style. Phil.
Great video, have just had my second flat white for the morning...via my Nespresso machine. Do you both like capsule coffee? Macca's coffee is ok but it used to be better, we went to a Star bucks in Beijing...it was ok as that all there was but I won't be going back to Star Bucks. The only Starbuck I like is on Battlestar Galactica!!
Yeah we like capsule coffee. An Airbnb we stayed at had a nespresso machine and we put it to use 😊
Zaraffas, which is like an Aussie version of Starbucks (except the coffee is better) sells an Americano but I haven't seen them anywhere else.
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I got coffee at Maccas back when they offered it free to healthcare workers last year. I found the standard ranged from OK to (surprisingly) pretty good - depending on who was making the coffee. You could certainly get better coffee, but I'm not going to argue with free.
You can actually also find good coffee throughout US/Canada as long as you trawl through the google maps reviews for highest rated cafes/find a coffee review website for the city you're in. It might be less practical for a local that probably wants to have a decent coffee shop in an accessible/convenient location to go to regularly, but as a tourist meandering through the city on a whim; it works great.
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In Australia a long black is a short black with more hot water
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We are asked if we want full cream milk when ordering here in Australia and can ask for low fat options.
You are correct, a long black (certainly in New Zealand) is two shots of expresso with some hot water. Depending on the cafe the water is in the cup or in a jug so that you can add water to taste. I tend to have a triple shot long black in a tulip (small cup) so that the barrister can't add too much water.
I didn't drink much coffee when I last visited the US so I don't have anything to compare, but when I visited the UK five years ago and asked for a triple shot long black I either got a blank look or a massive cup filled to the brim with water, diluting the coffee to the point that you could hardly taste it.
Fortunately on my return journey I spent a week in Italy where the coffee was truly great.
Lol that's strong coffee!
@@twotravelingkings you gotta taste it, lol.
I didn't see if anyone else wrote it about our Aussie McCafe's or anywhere you buy your coffee's when you're out and about (dining in or take away), you can specify which type of milk you'd like in it, so for Jenny, just as an example, re: your love of flat whites, you can have regular milk (full cream milk), skim milk (non fat), soy milk and other milk types. You just have to specify your milk type preference, sometimes they'll ask you ;-) any coffee you have milk in, you just specify what kind of milk you'd like :) and for the long black in Australia - basically, that's just black coffee (no milk) lol.
Probably similar to your filtered coffee machine in your home! :D Your videos are pretty cool to watch as an Aussie - I live up in sunny Qld, though obviously when you guys were here, was when the bushfires were raging - it was the worst in the last century, that's for sure. They actually started up here in SE QLD and as it had been a drought, the bush (forested) areas went ablaze with the speed and ferocity as if someone had poured fuel over something akin to 40,000 hectares from Queensland to Victoria - so many people lost homes, livelihoods, livestock, pets, their own lives trying to protect their homes, but when the fire's burning that hot - rather like what the California wild fires must be like I'd imagine, and you get fire tornados, it's scary stuff.
The first of the fires started in September 2019 up here in south east Queensland, more recently the weathers gone the other way and we've been having really severe floods (*eye roll*) which was really bad in so many places, but again affected the entire eastern seaboard of Australia, meanwhile, Western Australia was on fire instead... Eh, such as life in Australia! Check out a poem written in the 1906, about Australia, Dorothea Mackellar's famous poem “My Country” :D
I love how you compared the menus, it was heaps interesting. I've never had filter coffee as it isn't common here but would be keen to try it. I don't like the cups the US coffees are shown in for some reason haha prob bc I'm not used to them. Also, why are some coffees served with cream on top? Is that a common thing in the states?
Also is there a seperate window to collect the coffee at the drivethru like here?
So interesting! Love the differences 😊 and if you do try filter coffee you want a fancy pour over. Fairly common yes for a "fancy" coffee to have whipped cream on top. And nope same window!
The first thing they ask when you order a coffee at maccas is if its ‘full cream’ or not.
My standard order is a large flat white, on full cream, with an extra shot and two sugars. Maccas are notorious for not stirring the sugar in. They used to be notorious for making it way too hot, but they stopped that after a few spills in drive thru.
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Love these vids! Long black is a black coffee.. but it's water first then the shot on top so you still get the crema. It's the opposite of an americano which is shot of coffee first, then water. Piccolo latte is a latte with 3/4 the amount of milk so it's stronger and smaller.
Thanks so much! We have fun making them :)
A piccolo latte is a smaller Latte with less milk. Because it has less milk it has a much stronger coffee flavour in the milk.
Oooo we would like that 😊 thanks for the explanation!
A long black is typically 2 shots of espresso over hot water (the closest to this is an americano in the US). I think you guys would love the piccolo.
Sounds close to a flat white the piccolo. Sounds good!
An Americano is essentially a long black which is just a shot of coffee mixed with some hot water (usually 1 shot every 8oz of water). The difference is usually that an Americano is filtered coffee.
Good to know!
4.90 for a medium latte from my Maccas. Not exactly a bargain, but it can be pretty good depending on who makes it. Bunnings has a cafe and they make pretty good coffee too.
A popular drink in South Australia is Farmers Union Iced Coffee, which is a prepackaged drink you can buy pretty much anywhere that has a fridge, even Maccas. It's sells more than Coca Cola.
Oof, and heard about farmers union yeah.
You two are just lovely genuine people. It a pleasure watching your videos.
I’m glad you enjoyed your time with us downunder despite having to endure the lockdown. Feel free to migrate back if you get a chance.
Love that you like vegemite. There area few other Aussie icons it seems you missed
A classic “Bunnings” sausage sizzle
A Golden Gaytime (the best ice cream lolly ever)
Banana bread is everywhere
Finally as a coffee geek it’s my impression that
An Americano and a long black are almost the same.
Americano is espresso with water on top.
Long black is espresso on top of hot water (this preserves the “crema” for a richer taste
Thanks so much for the kind words! 😊 And coffee tips
I don't know if anyone has ever said this before but Jenny reminds me sooooo much of Pam from the office. And I mean that as a compliment
Haha yeah we've gotten that before
I love the U.S. version of “small”. It would be a medium, verging on large in Australia. I don’t personally do Maccas but it is often the only choice for coffee on night shift. Love your videos, thankyou both.
Latte and Cappuccino should be mostly hot milk on top of a double espresso shot. Cappuccino adds milk foam and chocolate powder on top. Yours looked like American coffee with powdered milk added.
Haha could've been!
A Mocha in Australia is basically a latte with a shot of chocolate - or a hot chocolate with a shot of coffee! There’s always a foam top on one though. I once explained that to a cafe in Italy not realising that Italian hot chocolates are thick! So the ‘mocha’ I got in Italy with a thick hot coffee chocolate concoction!
Still sounds tasty :)
Great video guys ... at least Maccas in the US is attempting nice coffee ... but still ... it looks like The F-Word ... FOLGERS! 😂😂😂 ☕️☕️☕️
Haha thanks Dean 😊 we're trying!
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In Australia you order your coffee and your meal and it does come from two counters as well as when you order for a drive-through is it true $.10 for every sale in America the coffee goes back to Australia
Good to know!
We used to have the strawberry banana smoothie here in Australia it was tasty! I don’t know why they discontinued it 🤔
Interesting!
A latte in Australia, as in Italy, is made with all milk, aside from the initial coffee shot.
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I go for the real coffee shake when looking for a cold drink. My usual is a dirty chai, a chai latte with a shot of espresso - I know right, tea and coffee but it just works. 😀. With the no fat options, we can customise our coffee on the app and choose full fat or skim as well as other choices like soy milk, etc. Love your videos. Will remember to get a latte if I am over there.
That sounds interesting. I never thought the try something like that, thanks for the tip.
Thanks for watching! Dirty chai sounds tasty 😊
Don't forget guys Australia has been judged to have the best baristas in the world . At McCafe In Australia you get your coffee at the cafe and if you want hash browns you go to the other counter.
I actually like MacDonalds coffee...
Nice! Thanks 😊
World barista championships.2 aussies have won it. 2003 and 2015