I just love Foreman here. He connected with the girl, made her smile, and got angry at Chase for his attitude about obesity (though as other comments have said, Chase wasn't absolutely wrong about the obesity. But his attitude definitely sucked)
Chase is a surgeon. All doctors have to deal with the consequences of obesity, especially from people who just refuse to try. Surgeons see the consequences even more keenly than others, though. Not only for the patients themselves, but for those operating, and also for other patients waiting for the surgeon's and the OR's time.
yeah shame and judgement have totally worked, obesity epidemic over! definitely nothing to do with rampant artificial chemicals throughout the supply chain of every food and household product
@@just-tess far less to do with that and far more to do with people choosing convenient foods which come in larger and larger portion sizes and individuals choose not to be aware of how many calories are in the foods they eat. Obesity is largely a personal responsibility issue, illness and appetite can be linked to the things you mentioned.
The fact that a group of doctors saw a 10 year old who ate healthy and exercised constantly and was still obese and DIDN’T immediately think it was a significant symptom is…well, it’s spot on, actually.
@@mhead1117 read: “…WHO ATE HEALTHY AND EXERCISED AND WAS STILL OBESE…” I never said it wasn’t rare. But if a person, especially a child, does all the “right” things and is still obese, that’s a SYMPTOM. Try adding in reading comprehension exercises to your daily routine. (Also, PCOS is a condition women get that causes weight gain - regardless of exercise and diet - and is actually fairly common and underdiagnosed.)
@@itstruckmeeveryday it’s because 99.999% of the time people that say they “eat healthy” don’t. Lizzo (the morbidly obese musician) says that she exercises because she dances, and that she “eats healthy” because she is vegan. Obesity due to life choices is by far the rule not the exception. Providing excuses for the behavior is simply enabling food addicts and causing more problems. It’s like saying that junkies and crackheads don’t have a problem.
@@itstruckmeeveryday Not how PCOS works, a disorder doesn't have the ability to skirt the 1st law of thermodynamics. It doesn't result in weight gain despite dieting and exercise, and by saying so SCREAMS hypocrisy on your part (you argue 'reading comprehension' yet its clear you have 0 substantial knowledge on the subject or even basic human biochemistry.) Yes, calories are more difficult to burn; but the process of fat production and consumption isn't *magically* halted. Female PCOS patients see an average of a 400-calorie decrease in maintenence. As such, sufficient DIETING AND EXERCISE can be used to combat this caloric maintenence change. Fat is a result of calories in, calories out. PCOS isn't fucking with the observable laws of the universe, it's changing the base line of calorie intake. PLEASE stop speaking so confidently on something you clearly know little about, I've worked along side PCOS patients who've had no issue in maintaining weight despite their diagnosis.
"i wish you doctors could see past her weight" well i felt that in my soul. i've long struggled with my weight due to other health issues, including some that make it hard for me to exercise properly. all i get is judgement.
Yup. Many diseases are caused by being overweight....but people who are overweight can still get a crapton of other things that have absolutely nothing to do with their weight. And those things go undiagnosed since nobody bothers to look beyond.
@@calypsoschaos1762 yep same! I have Hashimoto's and have difficulty losing weight. My current doctor that finally listened to me that something was wrong thinks I had it for at least ten years before getting an actual diagnosis
I love how the mom kept telling the doctors to look past her weight. I love that she advocated for her daughter. I don’t see a lot of mom’s advocating for their children.
Doctors should take note of this and see that obesity can be a symptom, not a cause. They act as if since I was diagnosed with immune disease AFTER I became overweight that it's because I was overweight and not that I was having symptoms of an undiagnosed disease during the time I used to work out every day and be really fit. I used to run a few miles a day and suddenly I was in too much pain to move and the weight piled on.
Can be but usually isn't. More than half the US population is obese. It's a statistical nullity that even a double digit percentage of that figure is due to no-fault of those people. Most people in the modern world live sedentary lives and vastly underestimate their daily caloric intake; assuming they bother to ration it all.
what a lot of people are going to be eating is crow when it becomes widely understood how significant a role the artificial chemicals in our food and consumer goods has played in weight distribution and health outcomes... you're the doctors prescribing cigarettes of this generation
Jesus the actor behind the patient is insanely interesting to listen to. Her ability to act mixed with her way of expressing things is incredible, and she’s a nurse now?? Legend🎉🎉🎉
I’m a type one diabetic. Being diabetic puts weight on you no matter what you do. I was very active as a kid always on my bike always running around playing football with the kids around the neighborhood. And then when I was a teen I used to go rollerskating every hour that I could. Fridays and Saturdays I would skate for five hours And yet I couldn’t lose weight. I went on Weight Watchers and I gained 10 pounds. There’s so much that could go wrong once you become a diabetic. I felt her pain. My cousin who had a great body and her long dark hair, but her personality was something to be desired but when you’re a teenage guy you don’t really care about that. I was told that I was a great friend, but that’s all. I wasn’t girlfriend material and that was told to me by a guy . Being this age that this girl is going into being a teenager is very hard for kids that are overweight or different. when people don’t accept you the way you are you feel so ugly and disgusting and it makes you feel like you don’t wanna live.
This is ridiculous. The moment patients (or their parents) say, "The fact that I am fat makes no sense, I've tried diets and did exercise but it doesn't work," it is mandatory to rule out Cushing's disease (even when you don't trust the patient) through tests that take into account the phasicity of circadian cortisol rhythms (such as urinary or salivary cortisol). A case like this would have been solved immediately.
Sometimes they are really making things sound more breathtaking and far-fetched than they are. I guess most doctors would have guessed House's rationale for suggesting imaging. It's just funny to see how surprised and confused Foreman and Chase seem to be.
Yup, endogenous hypercortisolism through Cushings has a couple of possible sources. Pituitary adenoma (ACTH secretion, which stimulates cortisol in the adrenal cortex), adrenal cortex tumor (direct cortisol), small cell lung cancer (ACTH). All would be seen on imaging. CT might be easier, but we don't do CTs for kids often because of high radiation (1000x an Xray). But really, there's an easy test to see if its Cushings and whether it's ectopic or not... dexamethasone suppression test. But maybe it would have taken too long under the circumstances and MRI was faster.
@@rusinoe8364 That's why I wrote it. If you have only minutes or few hours (as seems to be the case here) imaging is probably the quickest way to find out whether and where there might be a tumor/cancer that causes hypercortisolemia. CT scans expose to high doses of radiation, but they are quicker than MRIs.
Likely due to writing, the audience wouldn't know about it thus it would give a good explanation as it's happening, also it's not impossible for people to forget simple things
Doctors suddenly seeming confused and surprised isn't really a stretch when you're dealing with uncommon issues, but that's only an in-universe reason. From a point of view of storytelling, the confused doctors are serving as OUR avatars in the scene - they are looking confused so that WE get an explanation.
When I was a kid I was rather heavy, born with a lot of baby fat however as I grew, I've come to realize that I'm morbidly underweight, ironic, like 120 pounds at 5'10...im 20.
I feel like they made chase extra shitty in this episode to further justify house deciding he was the one who should be laid off. And then they kept having him be shitty to other fat patients for consistency
My kid diets and exercises but is still obese. Average doctor: "You're lying, but I can't say that, so we'll just treat the symptoms and not look for the cause."
I would suggest looking into a thyroid condition. I was gaining and losing a bunch of weight and it took me starting to go bald and passing out to figure out I was having a “thyroid storm”. Not a doctor, but it’s an option I never would’ve considered if I didn’t have an extremely talented and knowledgeable dermatologist
100% chance your idea of "diets and exercises" is you vaguely pay attention to what your kid eats when they aren't hiding snacks from you and does gym class. Actually count your kids calories and have them do an hour of strong cardio and they wont be fat unless they have a super >1% rare medical condition that somehow means your kid is spontaneously generating energy out of nothing
Real diets are hard, especially when making meals at home people the National Institute of health has several studies on how a majority of people underestimate how many calories are in meals. Exercises is also very grueling, it takes 4-5 miles to burn off enough calories to cancel out a big mac, which in reality isnt alot of food.
doctors also can't do much about all the endocrine disruptors and artificial hormones in everything from processed foods to toys to cosmetics to furniture
He was right tho. Not for insulting the girl but calling attention to the obesity epidemic. It kills wayyy more people than covid, gun violence, and drunk driving combined.
The writers royally screwed up on this one because instead of other things that indicate a heart attack could have taken place, troponin is what they test for in your blood to see if you've had a heart attack, and there should be almost none of it in your blood, so a level around two or three for most humans, and a heart attack can be in the thousands. Like I said, writers royally screwed up on this
But I like that it does show the human side of him .. and that their biases can influence how they treat a patient .. it's reality! black vs white, rich vs poor, insured vs not, thin vs fat, young vs elderly .. and so on ..
And yet a doctor should know what's healthy. One of the worst parts of our culture is the dangerous lie that it's possible to be healthy at every size. Standards for proper diet and exercise and healthy BMI are not manifestations of oppression.
@willmercury I think the issue is that people don't understand that it's possible to be healthy at every SHAPE. Not everyone has the building to have an hour glass figure, some hold more weight on the legs, core, arms, etc. Some are shaped like rectangles, some pears, etc. You can be healthy and not be skinny. Ik plenty of people in the army with a gut; that don't have a 6 pack, or heavier than the standard and are still healthy enough to pass a fitness test with flying colors. Hell I'll heavy for my size but have a lower body fat percentage
The fact that he constantly brought looks into just seriously rubs me the wrong way. Like, we’re talking about an 10 year old girl, why are bringing conventionally sexually attractive bodies into the conversation? The worst part though is the fact that it’s actually realistic; there are actual grown adults in this world that bring up being attractive when talking about children’s weight.
@@gaxalee7392 u miss understand chase is a doctor from a biological perspective being fat isn’t the best thing for your health he’s not saying she’s fat and ugly and sexualizing her he is simply stating a fact she is obese which causes health problems
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
It's because he hasn't seen kids eating apples, nor riding bikes. And because Americans can no longer compete in basketball anymore, unless it's the kind that you play in front of a TV.
Depends on the situation, environment, your role, his/her role, mental state of everyone involved. So yeah too many unknown factors make your statement a valid response.
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
"We get it, you hate fat people" Always funny that they have to create tension between characters but the writers will make them say something so stupid. Made Foreman sound like he was a twelve-year-old.
Except Foreman is right. Not just because Chase was constantly blinded by her weight in this particular story, but because it's a consistent trait throughout Chase's arc.
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
@@heidikickhouse- true. And he had to play Dad when his father decided to hit the bottle and leave little Chase to grow up WAY too early. He turned out impressive for a yachting dweeb. Given the ending anyway.
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
The girl playing the patient is a real child and she's not wearing a fat suit. She went in for shooting scenes of a bunch of adults portraying doctors going on and on about how morbidity obese she is to the point it's endangering her life. She then has lines about how she doesn't want to be ugly and how she's worthless. How do film crews and screen writers do this kind of stuff and not do any psychological damage to a child actor?
God the people who moan about weight being concentrated on are insufferable. I’m not skinny myself, and my diet isn’t great, but if a doctor said an illness I have could be related to that I wouldn’t throw a hissy fit. Obesity raises the chances of SO many illnesses it’s unbelievable. Yes of course it shouldn’t narrow the diagnosis to only obesity related problems, but simply testing for something related it obesity would be the first thing they should do. Same as if a smoker came in with a cough….
8:35 According to Scrubs, low molecular weight Heparin and unfractionated Heparin are the exact same thing. So the question is, who is right? JD and Dr Cox from Scrubs or Dr House?
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
Lol. Why cant anyone see past her weight? Lol. Because her weight is blocking. Lol. (So is mine). No, but truly, it's heartbreaking. No funny lines - it's sad as heck.
"I wish you doctors could see past her weight" "I wish you doctors could see past his horribly mangled chest" "I wish you doctors could see past her burn marks" "I wish you doctors would ignore potential symptoms and risks to save my feelings"
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
Can't gain weight if you don't have enough calories to do so. I never understood the TV/movie indsutry's obsession with trying to make it seem like being obese is 'ok' and out of their control. It never is, and IF it is, then people die early on.
I’ve written this before but God loves us all. But he also disagrees with our actions. Greed and gluttony are sin for a a reason so are ego. No one is perfect we all fall short and into temptation but we are put into this world together to learn how to love imperfect people and therefore love unconditionally and in turn choosing love/heaven. God bless
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
How do you even get that big to begin with especially as a child? Bad parenting or just stuffing your face 24/7? It’s hard to get that big. I seriously will never understand it. It’s seriously not hard to be healthy and stay healthy. There’s a big lack of IQ and self discipline in these people. It’s just sad, they’ll blame everything but themselves.
‘Have you ever met a plastic surgeon that was in their right mind?’
Taub: And I took that personally.
Except Taub wasn’t on the show yet.
Ya know, albeit limited experience, it's kinda right.
I just love Foreman here. He connected with the girl, made her smile, and got angry at Chase for his attitude about obesity (though as other comments have said, Chase wasn't absolutely wrong about the obesity. But his attitude definitely sucked)
Chase is a surgeon. All doctors have to deal with the consequences of obesity, especially from people who just refuse to try. Surgeons see the consequences even more keenly than others, though. Not only for the patients themselves, but for those operating, and also for other patients waiting for the surgeon's and the OR's time.
@@RaynmanPlaysRight, but she's a ten year old girl. There's a time and a place for shame and judgement over weight, and a preteen girl is not it.
yeah shame and judgement have totally worked, obesity epidemic over! definitely nothing to do with rampant artificial chemicals throughout the supply chain of every food and household product
@@just-tess far less to do with that and far more to do with people choosing convenient foods which come in larger and larger portion sizes and individuals choose not to be aware of how many calories are in the foods they eat. Obesity is largely a personal responsibility issue, illness and appetite can be linked to the things you mentioned.
are you a nutritionist? healthcare professional? medical researcher? public health expert?
'Your mom's tall, you're a little short for your age...'
Oh, little did he know.
I don't get it lol
House solves it in the end by taking notice of those two details.
@@kip258her condition caused her to have stunted growth
The fact that a group of doctors saw a 10 year old who ate healthy and exercised constantly and was still obese and DIDN’T immediately think it was a significant symptom is…well, it’s spot on, actually.
This is an absurdly rare case. You're fat because you don't diet and exercise.
@@mhead1117 read: “…WHO ATE HEALTHY AND EXERCISED AND WAS STILL OBESE…”
I never said it wasn’t rare. But if a person, especially a child, does all the “right” things and is still obese, that’s a SYMPTOM. Try adding in reading comprehension exercises to your daily routine.
(Also, PCOS is a condition women get that causes weight gain - regardless of exercise and diet - and is actually fairly common and underdiagnosed.)
@@mhead1117 "absurdly rare" isnt ~10%
@@itstruckmeeveryday it’s because 99.999% of the time people that say they “eat healthy” don’t.
Lizzo (the morbidly obese musician) says that she exercises because she dances, and that she “eats healthy” because she is vegan.
Obesity due to life choices is by far the rule not the exception. Providing excuses for the behavior is simply enabling food addicts and causing more problems. It’s like saying that junkies and crackheads don’t have a problem.
@@itstruckmeeveryday Not how PCOS works, a disorder doesn't have the ability to skirt the 1st law of thermodynamics. It doesn't result in weight gain despite dieting and exercise, and by saying so SCREAMS hypocrisy on your part (you argue 'reading comprehension' yet its clear you have 0 substantial knowledge on the subject or even basic human biochemistry.) Yes, calories are more difficult to burn; but the process of fat production and consumption isn't *magically* halted. Female PCOS patients see an average of a 400-calorie decrease in maintenence. As such, sufficient DIETING AND EXERCISE can be used to combat this caloric maintenence change. Fat is a result of calories in, calories out. PCOS isn't fucking with the observable laws of the universe, it's changing the base line of calorie intake. PLEASE stop speaking so confidently on something you clearly know little about, I've worked along side PCOS patients who've had no issue in maintaining weight despite their diagnosis.
Is it just me or am I the only one who loves when people ask who the hell is house? 🙃
We honestly need a compilation of just that
Agreed. Let's make it happen, dedicated House M.D. RUclips team.
It is just you, you are the only one who when people ask who the hell is house
Kaio-what?
@@JoshuaSoba wrong comment section, DBZA is 3 clicks north
The actress who plays the patient is now a registered nurse, who graduated early to be on the frontlines of COVID. Wrap your mind around that.
That's actually really cool. Thanks for sharing that.
Source
wrap my mind around what? someone becoming a nurse? that's not amazing.
@@LilyApus 💀 nursing is a difficult profession, especially during COVID, but okay lol
@@xkirsten0 still not amazing.
"i wish you doctors could see past her weight" well i felt that in my soul. i've long struggled with my weight due to other health issues, including some that make it hard for me to exercise properly. all i get is judgement.
Yup. Many diseases are caused by being overweight....but people who are overweight can still get a crapton of other things that have absolutely nothing to do with their weight. And those things go undiagnosed since nobody bothers to look beyond.
@@ovinedreamer1451 also many diseases can cause weight gain and the difficulty to lose weight. Which also often gets overlooked
@@caitplanchette yep! i have a condition that causes weight gain and no one cared to look- just blamed it on my diet
@@calypsoschaos1762 yep same! I have Hashimoto's and have difficulty losing weight. My current doctor that finally listened to me that something was wrong thinks I had it for at least ten years before getting an actual diagnosis
@@caitplanchettei have hashimoto's too! it really sucks when no one listens- obesity is sometimes a symptom, not a cause
5:35 Taub: “…HEY!”
I know!
I love how the mom kept telling the doctors to look past her weight. I love that she advocated for her daughter. I don’t see a lot of mom’s advocating for their children.
Like how or when?
wtf
Doctors should take note of this and see that obesity can be a symptom, not a cause. They act as if since I was diagnosed with immune disease AFTER I became overweight that it's because I was overweight and not that I was having symptoms of an undiagnosed disease during the time I used to work out every day and be really fit. I used to run a few miles a day and suddenly I was in too much pain to move and the weight piled on.
Can be but usually isn't. More than half the US population is obese. It's a statistical nullity that even a double digit percentage of that figure is due to no-fault of those people. Most people in the modern world live sedentary lives and vastly underestimate their daily caloric intake; assuming they bother to ration it all.
What were you eating?
@@ryang257325% of folk are disabled.
People who have never had a weight problem or serious health issues don't understand. Or care to.
what a lot of people are going to be eating is crow when it becomes widely understood how significant a role the artificial chemicals in our food and consumer goods has played in weight distribution and health outcomes... you're the doctors prescribing cigarettes of this generation
Jesus the actor behind the patient is insanely interesting to listen to. Her ability to act mixed with her way of expressing things is incredible, and she’s a nurse now?? Legend🎉🎉🎉
I’m a type one diabetic. Being diabetic puts weight on you no matter what you do. I was very active as a kid always on my bike always running around playing football with the kids around the neighborhood. And then when I was a teen I used to go rollerskating every hour that I could. Fridays and Saturdays I would skate for five hours And yet I couldn’t lose weight. I went on Weight Watchers and I gained 10 pounds. There’s so much that could go wrong once you become a diabetic.
I felt her pain. My cousin who had a great body and her long dark hair, but her personality was something to be desired but when you’re a teenage guy you don’t really care about that. I was told that I was a great friend, but that’s all. I wasn’t girlfriend material and that was told to me by a guy . Being this age that this girl is going into being a teenager is very hard for kids that are overweight or different. when people don’t accept you the way you are you feel so ugly and disgusting and it makes you feel like you don’t wanna live.
Is this a young Jennifer stone? Or aka Harper from Wizards of Waverly Place, and she’s now a real life doctor with a huge heart of gold 😍😍
👍🏾
Yes it is
Oh wow! I never noticed. I loved that show as a kid!
She’s a nurse actually, not a doctor
You guys got some pretty cool names
I think you should do an insane video of House’s best sentence in every single episode LOL
More than half of them would just be "shut up" lol
This is ridiculous. The moment patients (or their parents) say, "The fact that I am fat makes no sense, I've tried diets and did exercise but it doesn't work," it is mandatory to rule out Cushing's disease (even when you don't trust the patient) through tests that take into account the phasicity of circadian cortisol rhythms (such as urinary or salivary cortisol). A case like this would have been solved immediately.
Of course. But nonetheless, nodules on adrenal glands will sometimes need to be removed if they are affecting hormones, etc .
Sometimes they are really making things sound more breathtaking and far-fetched than they are. I guess most doctors would have guessed House's rationale for suggesting imaging. It's just funny to see how surprised and confused Foreman and Chase seem to be.
Yup, endogenous hypercortisolism through Cushings has a couple of possible sources. Pituitary adenoma (ACTH secretion, which stimulates cortisol in the adrenal cortex), adrenal cortex tumor (direct cortisol), small cell lung cancer (ACTH). All would be seen on imaging. CT might be easier, but we don't do CTs for kids often because of high radiation (1000x an Xray).
But really, there's an easy test to see if its Cushings and whether it's ectopic or not... dexamethasone suppression test. But maybe it would have taken too long under the circumstances and MRI was faster.
@@rusinoe8364 That's why I wrote it.
If you have only minutes or few hours (as seems to be the case here) imaging is probably the quickest way to find out whether and where there might be a tumor/cancer that causes hypercortisolemia.
CT scans expose to high doses of radiation, but they are quicker than MRIs.
Likely due to writing, the audience wouldn't know about it thus it would give a good explanation as it's happening, also it's not impossible for people to forget simple things
Doctors suddenly seeming confused and surprised isn't really a stretch when you're dealing with uncommon issues, but that's only an in-universe reason. From a point of view of storytelling, the confused doctors are serving as OUR avatars in the scene - they are looking confused so that WE get an explanation.
I wish all parents were staunch advocates for their kids like the mom is.
Most parents are, to a fault.
Never believing their precious child could do anything wrong. It's an epidemic.
Didn't make her daughter feel any better though.
When I was a kid I was rather heavy, born with a lot of baby fat however as I grew, I've come to realize that I'm morbidly underweight, ironic, like 120 pounds at 5'10...im 20.
Gotta admit, if i got to play a character id definitely want to be able to scream at everyone and call them a son-of-a-b 😂 thatd be fun to do
Chase: "Have you ever met a plastic surgeon who was in their right mind?"
Taub, canonically at that very moment: *is a surgeon*
I can't even count how many times Chase called her fat in this episode.
I laugh so much when house says he’s from the lab LMAOOO idk his face expression and lack of care to the mom is downright hilarious
I feel like they made chase extra shitty in this episode to further justify house deciding he was the one who should be laid off. And then they kept having him be shitty to other fat patients for consistency
Here 1:59 exactly how I feel..THAT FRUSTRATION!
Except that no team will actually do that much effort for me!
My kid diets and exercises but is still obese.
Average doctor: "You're lying, but I can't say that, so we'll just treat the symptoms and not look for the cause."
I would suggest looking into a thyroid condition. I was gaining and losing a bunch of weight and it took me starting to go bald and passing out to figure out I was having a “thyroid storm”. Not a doctor, but it’s an option I never would’ve considered if I didn’t have an extremely talented and knowledgeable dermatologist
100% chance your idea of "diets and exercises" is you vaguely pay attention to what your kid eats when they aren't hiding snacks from you and does gym class.
Actually count your kids calories and have them do an hour of strong cardio and they wont be fat unless they have a super >1% rare medical condition that somehow means your kid is spontaneously generating energy out of nothing
Real diets are hard, especially when making meals at home people the National Institute of health has several studies on how a majority of people underestimate how many calories are in meals. Exercises is also very grueling, it takes 4-5 miles to burn off enough calories to cancel out a big mac, which in reality isnt alot of food.
doctors also can't do much about all the endocrine disruptors and artificial hormones in everything from processed foods to toys to cosmetics to furniture
My heart hurts for her!😢😢
lol
She's not a real person lul
@@Guille2033 duh... however as a nurse I have encountered children and adults like this in real life
So does hers.
This wwas one of my favorite episodes of House.
You know whenever these come up I watch a couple and log back into Peacock becuase I am get in the mood
5:35 I'm imagining what Taub would say if he was in the story at this point in time.
I absolutely hated Chase’s personality in this case.
He was right tho. Not for insulting the girl but calling attention to the obesity epidemic.
It kills wayyy more people than covid, gun violence, and drunk driving combined.
The writers royally screwed up on this one because instead of other things that indicate a heart attack could have taken place, troponin is what they test for in your blood to see if you've had a heart attack, and there should be almost none of it in your blood, so a level around two or three for most humans, and a heart attack can be in the thousands. Like I said, writers royally screwed up on this
It is a medical drama so not everything is going to be a 100% accurate
Troponin was more expensive to test for in (checks notes) 2007.
Remember when kids having heart attacks was nearly unheard of?
Is this what her bullies wanted,I ask sarcastically?
Nice railgun reference
"Have you ever met a plastic surgeon who was in his right mind?"
Too bad this joke wasn't saved til after Season 4.
I just realised who the girl is….this isn’t just any actor. This is HARPER. From wizards of Waverley place. She became a nurse AND stayed an actor.
chase’s whole snobby attitude towards anyone heavier than what he believes is healthy is the worst part of his character
But I like that it does show the human side of him .. and that their biases can influence how they treat a patient .. it's reality! black vs white, rich vs poor, insured vs not, thin vs fat, young vs elderly .. and so on ..
And yet a doctor should know what's healthy. One of the worst parts of our culture is the dangerous lie that it's possible to be healthy at every size. Standards for proper diet and exercise and healthy BMI are not manifestations of oppression.
That doesn’t give Chase the excuse to treat anyone heavier than him like they’re scum of the earth lol especially when he’s meant to be a doctor
@@SundaysChild1966 realistic, yes, but still kind of sad
@willmercury I think the issue is that people don't understand that it's possible to be healthy at every SHAPE. Not everyone has the building to have an hour glass figure, some hold more weight on the legs, core, arms, etc. Some are shaped like rectangles, some pears, etc. You can be healthy and not be skinny. Ik plenty of people in the army with a gut; that don't have a 6 pack, or heavier than the standard and are still healthy enough to pass a fitness test with flying colors. Hell I'll heavy for my size but have a lower body fat percentage
Harper from wizards of waverly place!
Yeah we got it
They didn't really show her as psychotic, just frustrated with the procedures?
If you didn't know by the end of the episode, we learn Chase is still as shallow as a Kiddie Pool.
The fact that he constantly brought looks into just seriously rubs me the wrong way. Like, we’re talking about an 10 year old girl, why are bringing conventionally sexually attractive bodies into the conversation? The worst part though is the fact that it’s actually realistic; there are actual grown adults in this world that bring up being attractive when talking about children’s weight.
@@gaxalee7392 u miss understand chase is a doctor from a biological perspective being fat isn’t the best thing for your health he’s not saying she’s fat and ugly and sexualizing her he is simply stating a fact she is obese which causes health problems
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
This, this episode, and other similar instances always bothered me he took over the department.
It's because he hasn't seen kids eating apples, nor riding bikes. And because Americans can no longer compete in basketball anymore, unless it's the kind that you play in front of a TV.
When someone tells you to let go of them, YOU LET GO!!!
Depends on the situation, environment, your role, his/her role, mental state of everyone involved. So yeah too many unknown factors make your statement a valid response.
7:12 he resonated with that personally
4:32 house makes the best digs 😹😭💀
Dr House 👍🏻
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That too
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
The temporary psychosis on the white board kept changing lol
"We get it, you hate fat people"
Always funny that they have to create tension between characters but the writers will make them say something so stupid. Made Foreman sound like he was a twelve-year-old.
He was being sarcastic.
Except Foreman is right. Not just because Chase was constantly blinded by her weight in this particular story, but because it's a consistent trait throughout Chase's arc.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg Foreman killed 2 people in the show. Chase killed 1, and he was a dictator.
@@jodo2785 I think you're confused about which clip we just watched.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg I'm just pointing out that Foreman is (technically) a worse doctor, judging only by body count.
Chases worst episode
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
Based Chase
He can't help it though. As I remember, he was beaten every day as a child, quite severely, by his morbidly obese nanny.
Dibala would like an honorable mention.
@@heidikickhouse- true. And he had to play Dad when his father decided to hit the bottle and leave little Chase to grow up WAY too early.
He turned out impressive for a yachting dweeb. Given the ending anyway.
Foreman's full head of hair makes me extremely uncomfortable.
this episode was probably the saddest one i ever watched bruh
I'm going back and rewatching the show on DVD, I dare to say that this channel is more entertaining than the original show.
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
Chase is the worst in this episode
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
The girl playing the patient is a real child and she's not wearing a fat suit. She went in for shooting scenes of a bunch of adults portraying doctors going on and on about how morbidity obese she is to the point it's endangering her life. She then has lines about how she doesn't want to be ugly and how she's worthless. How do film crews and screen writers do this kind of stuff and not do any psychological damage to a child actor?
they don't lmao. look at any child actor talking about their experience
I mean back when wizard of oz as filmed they gave the actress amphetamines and barbiturates
OMFG HOUSE IS THE GOAT
I'm here for Cameron, stunningly beautiful 😊
Chase was the worst character on this show, super annoying.
you'd think all that blubber would give fat people thicker skin . . .
Thought this was the exorcist for a sec
What season and episode??
Its says it in the description it's season 1 episode 16 I believe
"she's fat!"
She sounds like Harper from Wizards of Waverly Place
It is
Why would they just rely of ECG and CKMB when they can just do an Echo and confirm??
House is higher than Cool
God the people who moan about weight being concentrated on are insufferable. I’m not skinny myself, and my diet isn’t great, but if a doctor said an illness I have could be related to that I wouldn’t throw a hissy fit. Obesity raises the chances of SO many illnesses it’s unbelievable. Yes of course it shouldn’t narrow the diagnosis to only obesity related problems, but simply testing for something related it obesity would be the first thing they should do. Same as if a smoker came in with a cough….
finally, someone said it
To be fair that's how hypoglycemic people can behave...
To be fair, I was one and never behaved that way. That is over exaggerated.
@@GLT2024Yeah surely everyone acts exactly like you
House m.d. is the only show I really like. Though survivorman and FBI are ok too. They don't give me medical jargon and house makes me relax
I want more
“If I was that fat I’d be tempted to knock back a bottle of pills” is one of the best unpopular opinions ever said on this show.
The actress who plays the patient is from wizards of wavily place
8:35 According to Scrubs, low molecular weight Heparin and unfractionated Heparin are the exact same thing. So the question is, who is right? JD and Dr Cox from Scrubs or Dr House?
I just googled it and they are not the same thing
Chase seems to have a strong dislike for fat people. Hes made comments on other shows before.
But he's not wrong that obesity does cause a lot of problems though
Wow, that's Jennifer Stone! She's my age
First episode?
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
Nope. The first one was about the teacher with parasites.
@@The-Rose-and-the-Cross wasn’t this the fat girl who was bullied in school?
@@The-Rose-and-the-Cross this^ teacher with parasites was the pilot if I recall correctly, this episode is Season 1 Episode 16 titled "Heavy"
@@hambelperhurger5049 Precisely
5:13 amig-Dollah?? is that an Aus thing??
3:25 condom adds be like:
Chases Best Episode.
Lol. Why cant anyone see past her weight? Lol.
Because her weight is blocking. Lol.
(So is mine).
No, but truly, it's heartbreaking. No funny lines - it's sad as heck.
"I wish you doctors could see past her weight"
"I wish you doctors could see past his horribly mangled chest"
"I wish you doctors could see past her burn marks"
"I wish you doctors would ignore potential symptoms and risks to save my feelings"
What happened to posting at 12 noon
It's 5 o'clock somewhere.
@@NOOOOOOO0OOOOO and now i want a drink
@@blackblade99009 first round on you
@@danielweber3410 ill pay his tab
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
This episode would trigger woke body-positivity activists in today's society.
I was thinking Marfan's
Could you imagine this show/episode coming out today? they'd be trying to push this idea that she's "Healthy" at this weight and she's totally fine.
It turns out she had an underlying condition that made her fat. I think it was called Crushing?
Chase is literally the worst character in this show, I stg
wow, posted 25 minutes ago? I am early.
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
first for ligma
Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
if that girls ten yesrs old then im three
Just marry me daddy obviously house 🔥🔥🔥❤️💗🫦❤️🔥🥵🥵🥵
10 year olds get heart attacks in 2020s
Can't gain weight if you don't have enough calories to do so. I never understood the TV/movie indsutry's obsession with trying to make it seem like being obese is 'ok' and out of their control. It never is, and IF it is, then people die early on.
I’ve written this before but God loves us all. But he also disagrees with our actions. Greed and gluttony are sin for a a reason so are ego. No one is perfect we all fall short and into temptation but we are put into this world together to learn how to love imperfect people and therefore love unconditionally and in turn choosing love/heaven. God bless
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Will never forget my great-grandmother (dad’s dad’s mother). She lived from 1913-2016 and passed away at 102. Were talking about a woman who, at age 76 in 1989 was diagnosed with congestive heart failure. Yes that’s right, she lived just about 27 years with the condition, if she had lived another 2 months, it would’ve been 27 years exactly. She also outlived 2 out of her 4 children and a grandson. God bless her soul. I will never forget her. What a woman of faith and strength
How do you even get that big to begin with especially as a child? Bad parenting or just stuffing your face 24/7? It’s hard to get that big. I seriously will never understand it. It’s seriously not hard to be healthy and stay healthy. There’s a big lack of IQ and self discipline in these people. It’s just sad, they’ll blame everything but themselves.
Did you even watch the clips? She has a condition that causes weight gain.
@@kristajones7202bro definitely just watched one minute and left an ignorant comment
@@PRubin-rh4sr Or he thinks you should starve a child with Cushing's to make them thin, either-or.
Diagnosis: lay off the twinkies
Diagnosis: she had a tumor
I love how they make Chase's hatred of fat and poor people actually come in to help randomly, like in this case
"she's fat.... maybe it's a symptom"