Your comment ONLY shows how dumb the average NFL fan is… The rule already exists pretty much exactly how you said it. Why are we so stupid as fans? I don’t get it.
@@SonofStormblessedThere's so many people commenting here that het got what he deserved for trying to scratch a couple more yards. Apparently, in their mind, a leaping forearm to the face is proper payback for bending the rules, and Texans players never bend the rules... 😂
@@yamamancha Tom Brady is Fn hypocrite he is the reason QBs have special rules lol he cried until they made special quarterback rules and now he owns part of the raiders so he thinks he can flip flop his opinion.
@SteelCourage I mean yea but he wasn't whining and the main reason was when he got his knee taken out in 08. The other stuff wa mainly the league shifting towards being more offensive minded.
These players are coming in like a heat seeking missiles and all of a sudden these quarterbacks want to try to slide. You better get into your slide earlier
Clearly you don't know what it's like to be an athlete at this level. He landed a perfect leaping forearm to the face, under the QB's extended face mask. That wasn't a slip/fall accident, lol...
@@Kevin.Costner. it’s stupid because no one can honestly decide what’s a fake slide and a simple slip stutter or anything else just another example of people crying about something.
People out here comparing a fake slide to targeting the head, and a forearm to the face. How many defenders get injured when the qb slides? These Texans fans get irrational 😀
@@SteelCouragemaybe u just dont have the capability to see if someone does a fake slide. Me on the other hand it’s obvious so I would assume a ref who’s a few feet away from him can tell
But in this case, Azeez has to basically go towards the ground to make the hit on the QB. If Azeez hit him when he was upright, then fine, but why go to the ground after the QB when the QB is already clearly on the ground sliding??
If he played in the 70’s , 80’s , 90’s , even 2000’s he would be celebrated for the toughness and tenacity he plays the linebacker position with . Jeff Saturday mentioned Ronnie Lott - go watch his highlights .
@MackB_ yea ur right, now go back and research what happened to the guys he hit in the head like that. They’re literally vegetables. Change has to happen. Go with it, or leave
Bad take. People don't need to be celebrated for in today's game for this. I think 3 games is BS and there needs to be rules against QB's fake sliding or pretending to give themselves up. But we can't cheer for someone doing that. Unnecessarily dangerous in an already dangerous game. I think ejection and one game.
I found the last few days of the Trevor Lawrence hysteria very hypocritical and for no reason. 🙄 1. *2023: Tyrelle Dobbs (Bills) completely knocks out Dak Prescott (Cowboys) with a helmet hit:* --> "Oh well he`s a running quarterback. Running Quarterbacks get hit outside the pocket. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2. 2023: *Justin Herbert (Chargers) gets completelely flattened by Jaylon Kearse (Saints) while Herbert was sliding to the ground:* --> "Oh well... he was outside the pocket anyway. Quarterbacks who run outside the pocket get hit... just like any other player." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 3. *2023: Jimmy Ward (Houston Texans) completely knocks out Russell Wilson (Denver Broncos) while Wilson was sliding down towards 1st Down:* --> "Oh well he`s a running quarterback. Running Quarterbacks get hit outside the pocket. Whats the big deal? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 4. 2017: *Joe Flacco (Ravens) while sliding to the ground, gets knocked out one side of the field, with his helmet flying to the other side of the stadium. Kiko Alonso (Dolphins) only got a 15 yard penalty + automatic 1st Down:* --> "Oh well... he was outside the pocket anyway. Quarterbacks who run outside the pocket get hit just like any other player. Its not the job of the Defense to protect a running Quarterback." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 5. 2023: *There were numerous occasions where Justin Fields (Chicago Bears) got hit while sliding to the ground or got clobbered on the sideline, while running out of bounds, and no one had a problem with that.* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 6. *Its not the job of the Defense to protect a running Quarterback... If a QB doesnt want to get hit, after running 40 yards, he needs to slide 10 yards ahead of a defender who is running full steam, to give the defender time to stop his tackle, instead of trying to milk an additional 5 yards.*
@@SteelCourage Has nothing to do with justifying dirty hit. - If his name was DTR (Dorian Thompson Robinson), nobody would give a xhit about the hit. - If his name was Sam Howell, nobody would give a xhit about the hit.
there may be a rule to QB sliding but if enough QBs fake slide then defenders will not adhere to rule since they will be fired for being ineffective at stopping the run
I just saw today that Trevor was sliding for the first down marker. You shouldn't slide in that situation because you're leaving yourself open to the possibility of a dirty hit. It's also up to the QB to protect himself here and slide early enough. If you decide to go for the first down, then you have to just run and put your shoulder down and take a hit like a football player.
Good guys off the field don't make egregious hits like that on the field. PERIOD. There have been lots of players that hit hard and made great plays (Ray Lewis, Brian Dawkins, etc.) but it'll be hard to find clips of them making the types of hits Azeez has repeatedly made. This guy has no respect for the game and for fellow players. And bad optics for the Texans GM defending this guy. It's refreshing the NFL had the backbone to call out the bad character of this player.
It sucks because you have incidents where Mahomes tip toes the sidelines and gets an extra 5 to 10 yards and complains when someone hits him. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. The defenders job is to stop you from getting extra yards, and QB’s have been abusing the protection they get from the league for some time now. You already can’t hit them in the pocket without the likelihood of a penalty happening. If a QB runs, they’re a runner and need to learn how to protect themselves
Or when Brady gets tapped on the helmet and they call roughing the passer? You people slow bro, and if that single play by mahomes is your only point? Yall just talking to talk, you can’t even go back 15 years of the game with players doing that, FOH
Lol, another Texans fan that thinks a leaping forearm to the face is acceptable retribution for scratching a few yards. Hello, they all bend the rules! How do you not know that? 😂
I just wish ppl would just say they don’t like TLaw. Because let it be Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen, Herbert, Tua, Love, or any other QB these media outlets fawn over. They’d have different takes. It’s clear TLaw was sliding, so miss me with “it’s a bang/bang play”, “what is the defender supposed to do?” Azeez had clear intent and he’s a repeat offender for blatant cheap shots.
@kdubbss0583 That same player (Al-Shaair) made a similar dirty play on Caleb Williams back in Week 2 with a late hit out of bounds. And then when Bears players proceeded to confront him for it, he hauled off and punched a Bears player in the face who was standing on the sideline and had nothing to do with nothing and wasnt even involved in any of it. Guess what the refs did ? Looked the other way. No flag on the late hit, no flag on the unprovoked punch to the face. This dickheads karma has been way overdue and I'm glad he's finally getting it one way or another
he’s not a blatant offender, even that is misleading. there have been stories all year about players getting fined for routine penalties. look at azeez’s list and you’ll see one on there was for a facemask. i’m sorry that shouldn’t count against him. if getting a facemask counts towards your “record” then half the league has an extensive record and needs a longer suspension if they do something. its just dumb. the chicago thing earlier this year? the hit on caleb was fair he didn’t get out of bounds, the punch after? yeah he should have got a game. that’s one event. the rest on there are all for penalties the NFL randomly started fining for. there have been running backs getting fined for hitting defenders this year. when do they get suspended?
It's concerning that an NFL GM doesnt know that hit is illegal.. Its more concerning that he would act outraged when this player has had at least 7 fines/warnings for dirty play leading up to this incident.
3 game suspension for that is crazy to me. I didn't know about his prior offenses but I agree with dude in the blue jacket, he should have definitely been suspended for some of them and definitely that punch thrown in that Bears game.
I don't buy the idea "You can't play defense anymore" The BEST defense in the NFL is the Philadelphia Eagles. And guess what? They are BULLIES. They hit hard, but they play smart. They aren't dirty. They are physical and they will out physical you. Its more of a lack of Defensive coaching talent in the NFL than the inability to play defense because of the rules...
I concur, I can't remember any of our players make an egregious or dirty hit over the last 5 yrs. Our players have made hard hits and great plays but rarely anything dirty. I can't speak for other cities but Philly has a great front office and the professional character flows down from the owner and GM. Houston clearly doesn't have this, how can they defend Al-Shaair?
@@mr.brooks9802The rule says you don't have to touch the player for them to be down when they slide. So, you just walk away. Which is the whole point of the rule, lol...
@@therocket280z7 yea, the problem is he waited to long to slide in an attempt to get the first down. Should the defender just let him get the first down too?
If it was Vontaze Burfict nobody would be debating the dirty play. If it was Mahomes no one would debate the slide. It was a dirty play hands down. Sliding is a dumb thing but until the Tush Push is gone this will still be accepted.
Nick Caserio is so full of sh't.. Anybody who knows football and has eyes can see that Lawrence slid a good 3-4 yds before the hit. Al-Shaair had to even nosedive downward to make sure he made contact with his forearm shiver..Dirty hit dirty player and now we know they have a dirty GM
It was a forearm to the face/head=never legal. There's nothing to argue. The guy already punched two other players in the face this year, the GM was being a fool...
@therocket280z7 And one of those players he punched after he made a dirty late hit on their QB and got confronted for it. But he's so dumb he punched a random bystander instead of the players actually confronting him SMH
If the rules of defense deem that I have to tackle you in the chest and you slide late putting your head at chest level, do you know what you get? A vicious hit to the head of a defenseless player that it didn't need to be. Slide earlier or take the hit. This hit specifically was bad but the conversation itself was valid. Which you would have heard if it sounded like you watched more than 10 secs of the video
@ he didn’t slide late lol the defender knowingly went for the head area and he lead with his forearm that had the brace on it so let’s stop making excuses for a dirty hit .
@ I watch football since 1982 lol 😂 and that was a dirty hit you wanna make excuses for by bringing up BS like fake sliding when it’s simple guy led with his forearm brace and launched at his head when he could have made a simple chest tackle so facts are facts .
@SteelCourage if you have truly watch football that long then you would know defenders tackle like that in every game. Forearm and shoulder tackles don't make a hit malicious. It's easy to dissect it in slow motion after the fact. In real time both guys were moving at full speed to either get or prevent a 1st down. Trevor could have slid sooner but chose to push it for a reason. You want to say he led with the forearm and brace but I guarantee he isn't thinking about that in the moment. His only concern is preventing the 1st down and a chest tackle takes longer.
@@SwayPromo It's not about being soft, it's about playing with respect for the game and for others. Brian Dawkins of the Eagles used to make the hardest hits, but you'll never find a clip of him making the type of hits Azeez has been guilty of.
According to Texans fans commenting here, a illegal forearm to the face is legal retribution for someone trying to scratch a couple more yards. Which makes sense when Texans players have never, and will never, bend a rule 😂
You're not smart. If you actually watch the film instead of being an emotional child, you'll see that he hit him in the shoulder first and then he slid up to his neck because that's how movement works. Don't be a girl or a child and this won't be so difficult to understand.
They should just do away with sliding. It puts both the quarterback and defender in a bad position. So if you gonna run take the hit or throw the ball away.
Yes I know. I'm saying you throw an incomplete pass or throw it out of bounds or try to run in which you get hit like the rest of the nfl. But sliding should be banned. It causes more harm than good.
The Josh Allen one annoys me. He clearly does a juke. It wasn't like the defender stopped, he just did what happens when most db's try tackling Allen and got shrugged off.
Make a rule fake sliding and fake going out of bounds results in 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty. Late sliding should not have defender penalized. Implement two step rule like late hit on QBs. If defender hits QB within 2 steps its fair game
"We can't play defence any more." Incorrect. You can't play clumsy defence and needlessly injure a player because of being clumsy. This isn't tough, it's reckless and low-skill.
Never ejected? Then this is mostly on the NFL! If he was ejected or suspended for a previous violation it’s possible he would have changed his play on the field and this wouldn’t have happened.
He didn't have to hit him. Simple contact would complete the play. The coach is mad but honestly he sounds like a child who got in trouble with their parents
Did you not see the videos of Josh Allen hesi-sliding??? They didn't even show Mahomes and all of his clips because they have to protect their golden boy.
You’re an idiot. He slid late because he was trying to get extra yards.. the defender already going full speed…he can injured himself just like the ravens player tore his acl trying to stop a hit because the qb slid late as well…. The rule needs to be made. Once you hezzy to stutter step before sliding then the play is over. No more fake sliding
There's no debating. Azeez hit was dirty. Lawrence was clearly sliding and Azeez took the opportunity to take a cheap shot and knock him out. Azeez should be banned. If he can't learn to pull up or jump over a sliding player, he's not fit for today's NFL and he needs to go. I get his team (and their fans) acting like this suspension was unfair. But nobody else should feel sorry for Azeez. He's a grown man.
Frankly, Azeez is a dirty player, it is not the first time he has done something like this, if he had not been suspended before it is irrelevant, since what he did is indefensible. And the league should definitely start putting more restraints and fines on dirty players like him. The physical integrity of the players must be protected.
Josh Allen did this once and it was more of a stop start to change direction than fake slide. Josh Allen does a fake throw more on the run...that's it!
Most QBs don’t fake slide so it’s pretty ridiculous to me. Fake going out of bounds thing is more of a thing than fake sliding, even with the plays some claim are a fake slide it’s very arguable imo
Just like the court systems instead of just fining someone 20 times for money. Make an example from the start instead and they won't think they can pay their way out of it..
That forearm to the head was dirty , Lawrence wanted to go for first and not slide earlier then he should be ready to be hit just not with forearm to the head. His argument don't make sense he's never been ejected or suspended yeah that's why they finally doing it cause they gave him chances numerous times and he still does it
QBs trying to get away with late slides isn’t the case here lol. He was still standing when Trevor started the slide. It was a bad hit. He got suspended. Moving on
Basic rule for the Defensive Players...Dont go for the Legs/Knees...Dont go for the Head. You can literally end a players career, with such a hit. Its really not that complicated. Azeez Al-Shaair looked like he was trying to decapitate Trevor Lawrence. The suspension was justified. Period.
That makes no sense the game is played at a high speed. Some guys can’t be tackled unless you go for their knees/legs(Derrick Henry). So the defense is supposed to let the offense score to protect them???
How about we put flags around the waist ? If you ever played the game the things you are saying is harder than it seems . Trevor Lawrence is 6’4 210+ . I wanna see you tackle him in a safe way .
You can use as much word salad as you want. But that Forarm shiver to the helmet was intentional and deliberate. It wasn't close to the sidelines. He wasn't trying to fake the defender out. The defensive player had a choice and he made it.
QBs need to be forced to slide sooner, many seem to invite the foul because 15 yards is huge in a close game. The hit was wrong but no running the ball 'to the edge' either.
The call out of Kuechly was great. I wish there was more of that conversation. Our favorite and probably best LBs probably have fine records that look insane. He defintely deserves a suspension but 3 feels excessive. I wonder if the league over-shot it knowing he'd appeal and then it comes down to a more reasonable suspension. We're talking about Azeez knowing that Trevor was sliding but where is the conversation about Trevor seeing Azeez coming in and not protecting himself? We see the viewpoint from behind Trevor and assume that Azeez had more time. Have we seen the viewpoint from behind Azeez to say maybe Trevor needed to slide earlier?
@tribadist He got suspended 3 games because this is stuff that he does REGULARLY but consistently gets away with it, and apparently the NFL was just fed up with it
Not one of you can produce footage of Mahomes fake sliding.. Not even once!. As far as skirting the sideline to get a couple more yards..every WR and RB does it to, its part of the game. If they're still in bounds when you hit them you wont be flagged..if theyre even an inch out of bounds then its a penalty and its going to be called. Its up to defenders to have awareness of where they are on the field before they hit.
@@Tom-q6b Theyre treated differently in the pocket..the NFL has decided that for the safety of QBs..but once theyre a ball carrier that protection is removed. The very same hit would have been a penalty against a RB or WR that gives themselves up and slides. You may not like it but its the rules. So go wine to the NFL rules committee..not to me just because you dont understand the rules or dont agree with them
Dude lead with his forearm. This is a non-story. He would not have been suspended if it was just about a late hit. Dude is a dirty player and threw a forearm at someone’s head.
I'm all for rules being implemented to protect the players BUT in a lot of these instances...the defensive player is watching the offensive player initiate the slide and they still keep coming to hit the player. As a defensive player you can see the other player dropping to the floor and pressing the eject button.
Let’s stop acting like AL is the first defensive player to hit a QB late like that! Thats why I kinda of hate 247 sports media now days. They over gas light 💩. I’ve seen worst hits than that in the NFL!
Take the sliding away. Once you're past the line of scrimmage, you can't be protected. If you want to protect yourself as a qb, then you can dive, which is much safer IMO
i haven't seen the "fake" slides myself as my team sucks and my qb likes to collide head on...BUT i do agree if there is a fake slide it should be a substantial penalty. player safety is not something to joke around with for a few yards on 1 play. regular slides should stop the yardage gain just before the slide too. for the defenders, there needs to be a clear/early sign of sliding. either a league wide sign/tell like the fair catch or no penalties for a hit in the middle of a slide. if you need that 1st down you'll run for it. if they're just wanting a few yards and not ready for the hit they'll slide. no more last minute/fake slides.
Days leading up to his suspension every analyst said he should be suspended. Now I hear complaining. QB's are protected, we know this. As a fan we do not want to see the star QB go down to a hit that could of been prevented.
Seems relatively easy to solve. If a defender has to go down, towards the QB, then that is cause for fine/suspension. The QB is down/giving up. “Down” is the operative word. Player no longer vertical, he’s given up. Defender has to lower his body to hit that player seems to be a foul.
Rule should be that you need to have 2 feet out of bounds or completely down in bounds before youre immune from contact. If you want to play running back then youre going to have to take a few shots.
I cant believe we're having this conversation. Qb's do get special treatment but the guy that got suspended is a dirty player.the slide shouldn't even be in question ,the dude went head hunting and has a history. Enough is enough
I’m a defensive guy my job is to hit the Qb.. All that sliding late and fake sliding and even fake running out of bounds to give yourself up has to be stopped cause idk any 4.3-4.5 runner or even an 300 plus pound lineman that can stop on a dime
@tom4150 I've seen "launched" defenders hit the sliding WB with their helmets, and shoulder pads. To me, this was a collision that occurred where the defender make a split decision that cost him. But I don't think this was as malicious as it made to look. When a QB slides, the defender will have to jump out the way to prevent any collision.
Debate about the sliding rule makes sense but this is no where close to a situation where its debatable if Lawrence was going to slide or not. He gave himself up early and the defender targeted him. Now players like Mahomes and Allen abuse the rule and we see it every game, the clear answer is a fake slide should minimum be a 15 yard penalty and maximum removal from the game
Surrenders should be clear and obvious. The rule is there for safety, so it should not be ABLE to be taken advantage If a QB is surrendering themselves it should be done so far in advance that no reasonable person should have to guess. If you are waiting for the absolute last second, then you have not surrendered and it should not be a penalty. And any fake slide should be unsportsmanlike and 15yd penalty.
The defender did NOTHING wrong. Once the target has been locked in, and he has committed to the hit, there is no pulling back. The QB needs to be responsible and (1) slide earlier and (2) don't leave yourself exposed as you slide. The NFL is getting ridiculous with the way they are rigging the game towards the offence. They are making the game indefensible.
If you leave the pocket and are running in the open field in my opinion you are fair game. You are a QB. Not a running back. Should the QB be allowed to slide sure. Doesn’t mean you should get an special treatment. Then you can limit this kind of BS. Let the defense play defense. We remember all the great defenses of years gone by not bc they were nice, but because they were fearsome and you knew they were going to bring it.
this is crazy, the dude literally lunged with his elbows at the mans head, how are they defending that, stop the foolishness they see that... talking about the texans GM
It's my impression, from the comments here, that Texans fans believe any rule bending deserves bodily harm, and that no Texans players ever bend a rule. 😂
kam chancellor, sean taylor, ray lewis, ed reed, clay mathews, etc. would've had their legacy ruined by today's rules... the game has gone softer, and maybe it's not a bad thing, but when the rule as a defender is to whop a player carrying the ball and that defender goes for the midsection, but the offensive player (who's advantage is having the defender NOT know what they will do) goes low to where a hit at the hips or midsection now become the head... it's kinda hard. if they wanna make qbs safe, then don't allow them to foolishly think at full speed they should stop protecting themselves or to stop trying to stretch plays out as much as they can and then slide.
Not defending the forearm...But Trevor Lawrence was running full steam ahead, completely upright. From the moment he showed signs of sliding to when the contact happened - less than 1 second. Ask the defenders that let up on Mahomes only to see him go past them.
The qb sliding should have to protect themselves. The sliding right before you get hit is crazy kinda. It’s alot like in hockey when a player turns right before getting hit and creates a hitting from behind scene. Games to fast to stop on a dime
A fine would have been more appropriate but jeff is right. It would have been his 5th fine this year, on top of the worst outcome yet from his actions. So i think they want him to take his foot off the gas a little
He also said he's gotten 7 warnings from the league, which isn't automatic when getting a fine. Plus, it was a forearm to the face which is never legal.
Just make it so runners have to slide earlier or make it penalty for a late slide. At some point we have to put more blame on the runner instead of totally on the defensive player
The more I look at the incident it looks like a combination of a lack of timing on both players part.... Sliding still puts the QB at risk... If Trevor stayed upright running and tried to evade the tackle this doesn't happen the dudes like 7feet tall your not getting hit in the head. once you lay down Sally (sliding) your head vulnerable... Running backs don't slide
Let's just go back and take a look how Runyan played ball, he was an absolute savage and had more than his fair share of devastating late blocks. Kind of funny honestly.
I think the rule should be simplified. If the QB starts to run, he turns a runner and is treated like a runner.
That’s already the rule. Any runner can slide or take a knee.
Still an illegal, dirty hit
He's a repeated offender. The decision is fair.
Your comment ONLY shows how dumb the average NFL fan is… The rule already exists pretty much exactly how you said it. Why are we so stupid as fans? I don’t get it.
@@SonofStormblessedThere's so many people commenting here that het got what he deserved for trying to scratch a couple more yards. Apparently, in their mind, a leaping forearm to the face is proper payback for bending the rules, and Texans players never bend the rules... 😂
Tom Brady is right: QBs can't ask defenders to not do their job. Don't want to get hit, give up before there is the possibility of contact.
How about not hitting someone in the head with a forearm?
@@yamamancha Tom Brady is Fn hypocrite he is the reason QBs have special rules lol he cried until they made special quarterback rules and now he owns part of the raiders so he thinks he can flip flop his opinion.
@@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13😂😂😂 bro is in every comment crying.
I've been watching football for awhile and Brady sounds like a hypocrite. He got all kinds of favorable protections from the league.
@SteelCourage I mean yea but he wasn't whining and the main reason was when he got his knee taken out in 08. The other stuff wa mainly the league shifting towards being more offensive minded.
These players are coming in like a heat seeking missiles and all of a sudden these quarterbacks want to try to slide. You better get into your slide earlier
Clearly you don't know what it's like to be an athlete at this level. He landed a perfect leaping forearm to the face, under the QB's extended face mask. That wasn't a slip/fall accident, lol...
He shouldn't have slipped to begin with, by sliding he puts his head in the tackle zone of the defender.@@therocket280z7
@@therocket280z7bro have you played football before? 😂
@@ookie218 Are people who played the only ones who understand the rules?
@@ookie218 Yep, starting RB and Middle LB on a team that got 2nd in the state. Thanks for asking!
Should be a penalty for fake sliding. Mahomes and Allen take advantage of that too much.
It's supposed to be, but refs don't call it. Allen did it in the playoff game against the Steelers and scored a touchdown.
This is true but this was Dirty hit
@@heirtothethrone000In college it’s a flag in nfl It isn’t a penalty yet
I see Mahomes don't but I've actually never seen Allen do it.
@@anssiheiskala8694two separate points
Fake Sliding = 25 Yard Penalties to offence
= Defense knowns their going down for sure so they back off since no bluffing easy
Not a bad idea. Maybe 15 yards but I like this.
@@Kevin.Costner. it’s stupid because no one can honestly decide what’s a fake slide and a simple slip stutter or anything else just another example of people crying about something.
People out here comparing a fake slide to targeting the head, and a forearm to the face. How many defenders get injured when the qb slides?
These Texans fans get irrational 😀
@@SteelCouragemaybe u just dont have the capability to see if someone does a fake slide. Me on the other hand it’s obvious so I would assume a ref who’s a few feet away from him can tell
@ you just assume it’s a fake slide and that’s what you tell yourself.
The quarterbacks broke the trust by manipulating the rule so they deserve the consequences of that distrust
That's a perfect way to express it: The QBs broke that trust about giving up on a play
But in this case, Azeez has to basically go towards the ground to make the hit on the QB. If Azeez hit him when he was upright, then fine, but why go to the ground after the QB when the QB is already clearly on the ground sliding??
Yea I just wish this hit was on mahomes. Mahomes is the one that cheats the defense when they don’t destroy him
@@chris2kgreatbecause the defender was already airborne when Lawrence started the slide is on Lawrence
You better suspend the jags player that blindsided him. NFL is a joke
If he played in the 70’s , 80’s , 90’s , even 2000’s he would be celebrated for the toughness and tenacity he plays the linebacker position with . Jeff Saturday mentioned Ronnie Lott - go watch his highlights .
But it isn’t bro it’s 20 years later new generation new environment in terms of the type of world we live in you know this
@MackB_ yea ur right, now go back and research what happened to the guys he hit in the head like that. They’re literally vegetables. Change has to happen. Go with it, or leave
Football slowly becoming unwatchable.
Bad take. People don't need to be celebrated for in today's game for this. I think 3 games is BS and there needs to be rules against QB's fake sliding or pretending to give themselves up. But we can't cheer for someone doing that. Unnecessarily dangerous in an already dangerous game. I think ejection and one game.
@@ChazzyPhizzle1 it's a physical game! Go watch flag football then!
You can see his own teammates throw their hands up in the air when he makes the hit. They know it was dumb and unnecessary.
Jeff Saturday trying as hard as he can to not curse during his rant...
But he did
He did at the 7 min mark
😂
He’s so unlikeable. Refuses to see the other side of the argument
@@HHHPedigrees so you think that the play that Lawrence was hurt was legit?
I found the last few days of the Trevor Lawrence hysteria very hypocritical and for no reason. 🙄
1. *2023: Tyrelle Dobbs (Bills) completely knocks out Dak Prescott (Cowboys) with a helmet hit:*
--> "Oh well he`s a running quarterback. Running Quarterbacks get hit outside the pocket. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2. 2023: *Justin Herbert (Chargers) gets completelely flattened by Jaylon Kearse (Saints) while Herbert was sliding to the ground:*
--> "Oh well... he was outside the pocket anyway. Quarterbacks who run outside the pocket get hit... just like any other player." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
3. *2023: Jimmy Ward (Houston Texans) completely knocks out Russell Wilson (Denver Broncos) while Wilson was sliding down towards 1st Down:*
--> "Oh well he`s a running quarterback. Running Quarterbacks get hit outside the pocket. Whats the big deal? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
4. 2017: *Joe Flacco (Ravens) while sliding to the ground, gets knocked out one side of the field, with his helmet flying to the other side of the stadium. Kiko Alonso (Dolphins) only got a 15 yard penalty + automatic 1st Down:*
--> "Oh well... he was outside the pocket anyway. Quarterbacks who run outside the pocket get hit just like any other player. Its not the job of the Defense to protect a running Quarterback." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
5. 2023: *There were numerous occasions where Justin Fields (Chicago Bears) got hit while sliding to the ground or got clobbered on the sideline, while running out of bounds, and no one had a problem with that.* ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
6. *Its not the job of the Defense to protect a running Quarterback... If a QB doesnt want to get hit, after running 40 yards, he needs to slide 10 yards ahead of a defender who is running full steam, to give the defender time to stop his tackle, instead of trying to milk an additional 5 yards.*
Exactly.
go go gadget copy and paste response
Dang solid comment I commend your research
@@OnyemaechiAmuro your just looking for excuses and trying to justify a dirty hit.
@@SteelCourage Has nothing to do with justifying dirty hit.
- If his name was DTR (Dorian Thompson Robinson), nobody would give a xhit about the hit.
- If his name was Sam Howell, nobody would give a xhit about the hit.
It’s INSANE they didn’t show a single highlight of Mahomes faking going out of bounds
They did yesterday. Even showed Josh Allen doing it too
Allen does it too.
They’ve been trying not to show it so that they can cheat for qbs and much as possible
You’ve never played a high level sport and you’re telling me a guy who does, fakes went out of bounds? Yeah go to work dude, stick to what you know.
Golden boy
i know many disagree but I still dont see an issue with the Al-Shaair hit, it got news because its a QB
QBs are the only players that slide bro. If it was a RB it doesn’t even happen.
Because there is a rule that once the QB enters a slide they are down.
there may be a rule to QB sliding but if enough QBs fake slide then defenders will not adhere to rule since they will be fired for being ineffective at stopping the run
Because it was head hunting. The timing of the hit is mostly defensible. The style of the hit is indefensible.
I just saw today that Trevor was sliding for the first down marker. You shouldn't slide in that situation because you're leaving yourself open to the possibility of a dirty hit. It's also up to the QB to protect himself here and slide early enough. If you decide to go for the first down, then you have to just run and put your shoulder down and take a hit like a football player.
They eventually gonna get mad at Greeney for skipping the commercial breaks ever morning
They just put it somewhere else shorting another longer segment
Greenie has been warned several times about this...at some point he needs to be suspended.
Good guys off the field don't make egregious hits like that on the field. PERIOD. There have been lots of players that hit hard and made great plays (Ray Lewis, Brian Dawkins, etc.) but it'll be hard to find clips of them making the types of hits Azeez has repeatedly made. This guy has no respect for the game and for fellow players. And bad optics for the Texans GM defending this guy. It's refreshing the NFL had the backbone to call out the bad character of this player.
qbs didn’t even give them a chance to do what azeez did cuz they’d go down way early, i see ray lewis running at me im dropping like some potatoes 😭
Ray Lewis killed a guy
Jeff had nothing to say about the hesi slide or the fake step out of bounce
Facts, I can't stand that dude, tfoh
Because that didn't happen on this play.
@@kyletucker3811 But any defender is gonna factor that into his decision making lol
Then the league should do something about it. Taking cheap shots doesnt make anything better
It sucks because you have incidents where Mahomes tip toes the sidelines and gets an extra 5 to 10 yards and complains when someone hits him. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. The defenders job is to stop you from getting extra yards, and QB’s have been abusing the protection they get from the league for some time now. You already can’t hit them in the pocket without the likelihood of a penalty happening. If a QB runs, they’re a runner and need to learn how to protect themselves
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@@Ysoserious1exactly
Allen does it all the time too.
Or when Brady gets tapped on the helmet and they call roughing the passer? You people slow bro, and if that single play by mahomes is your only point? Yall just talking to talk, you can’t even go back 15 years of the game with players doing that, FOH
Lol, another Texans fan that thinks a leaping forearm to the face is acceptable retribution for scratching a few yards. Hello, they all bend the rules! How do you not know that? 😂
I just wish ppl would just say they don’t like TLaw. Because let it be Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen, Herbert, Tua, Love, or any other QB these media outlets fawn over. They’d have different takes. It’s clear TLaw was sliding, so miss me with “it’s a bang/bang play”, “what is the defender supposed to do?” Azeez had clear intent and he’s a repeat offender for blatant cheap shots.
Trevor Lawrence is overrated and you know it. 💯
@@arthurmalonell115way to let the point go over your head…
@kdubbss0583 That same player (Al-Shaair) made a similar dirty play on Caleb Williams back in Week 2 with a late hit out of bounds. And then when Bears players proceeded to confront him for it, he hauled off and punched a Bears player in the face who was standing on the sideline and had nothing to do with nothing and wasnt even involved in any of it. Guess what the refs did ? Looked the other way. No flag on the late hit, no flag on the unprovoked punch to the face. This dickheads karma has been way overdue and I'm glad he's finally getting it one way or another
he’s not a blatant offender, even that is misleading. there have been stories all year about players getting fined for routine penalties. look at azeez’s list and you’ll see one on there was for a facemask. i’m sorry that shouldn’t count against him. if getting a facemask counts towards your “record” then half the league has an extensive record and needs a longer suspension if they do something. its just dumb. the chicago thing earlier this year? the hit on caleb was fair he didn’t get out of bounds, the punch after? yeah he should have got a game. that’s one event. the rest on there are all for penalties the NFL randomly started fining for. there have been running backs getting fined for hitting defenders this year. when do they get suspended?
It's concerning that an NFL GM doesnt know that hit is illegal.. Its more concerning that he would act outraged when this player has had at least 7 fines/warnings for dirty play leading up to this incident.
The first time the fake slide was used it should've been instantly shut down and penalized. The NFL let this become a problem.
college did it immediately
Take the sliding out of the game. Don't run the ball if you can't get hit. Go down! Defenses are handicapped
Go down? That’s what sliding is.
Sliding is going down…it’s going down in a way that’s often considered safer than falling forward
It's literally going down
Hahaha act like we don’t have eyes. Texans handling this terribly.
Habitual line-stepper. Shout out to Charlie Murphy.
I was looking for this comment 😂
3 game suspension for that is crazy to me. I didn't know about his prior offenses but I agree with dude in the blue jacket, he should have definitely been suspended for some of them and definitely that punch thrown in that Bears game.
I don't buy the idea "You can't play defense anymore" The BEST defense in the NFL is the Philadelphia Eagles. And guess what? They are BULLIES. They hit hard, but they play smart. They aren't dirty. They are physical and they will out physical you. Its more of a lack of Defensive coaching talent in the NFL than the inability to play defense because of the rules...
I concur, I can't remember any of our players make an egregious or dirty hit over the last 5 yrs. Our players have made hard hits and great plays but rarely anything dirty. I can't speak for other cities but Philly has a great front office and the professional character flows down from the owner and GM. Houston clearly doesn't have this, how can they defend Al-Shaair?
You lead with an arm in a brace and followed thru with your shoulder in an attempt to injure..
Id kick him out for the last games
What should he lead with?
You’re stupid
Man these Texans fans want blood. They all think it's fair play to put a leaping forearm to the face for scratching a couple yards, lol...
@@mr.brooks9802The rule says you don't have to touch the player for them to be down when they slide. So, you just walk away. Which is the whole point of the rule, lol...
@@therocket280z7 yea, the problem is he waited to long to slide in an attempt to get the first down. Should the defender just let him get the first down too?
I would suspend him for the rest of the season
If it was Vontaze Burfict nobody would be debating the dirty play. If it was Mahomes no one would debate the slide. It was a dirty play hands down. Sliding is a dumb thing but until the Tush Push is gone this will still be accepted.
Nick Caserio is so full of sh't.. Anybody who knows football and has eyes can see that Lawrence slid a good 3-4 yds before the hit. Al-Shaair had to even nosedive downward to make sure he made contact with his forearm shiver..Dirty hit dirty player and now we know they have a dirty GM
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It was a forearm to the face/head=never legal. There's nothing to argue. The guy already punched two other players in the face this year, the GM was being a fool...
He's a dirty player with a history of dirty plays
@therocket280z7 And one of those players he punched after he made a dirty late hit on their QB and got confronted for it. But he's so dumb he punched a random bystander instead of the players actually confronting him SMH
Why is Kimberly Martin on this panel?
Idk
Sliding is not the problem it’s just typical people looking for excuses when there is a dirty hit
If the rules of defense deem that I have to tackle you in the chest and you slide late putting your head at chest level, do you know what you get? A vicious hit to the head of a defenseless player that it didn't need to be. Slide earlier or take the hit. This hit specifically was bad but the conversation itself was valid. Which you would have heard if it sounded like you watched more than 10 secs of the video
@ he didn’t slide late lol the defender knowingly went for the head area and he lead with his forearm that had the brace on it so let’s stop making excuses for a dirty hit .
You clearly don’t watch football and are only talking about this one hit when it’s a wider discussion
@ I watch football since 1982 lol 😂 and that was a dirty hit you wanna make excuses for by bringing up BS like fake sliding when it’s simple guy led with his forearm brace and launched at his head when he could have made a simple chest tackle so facts are facts .
@SteelCourage if you have truly watch football that long then you would know defenders tackle like that in every game. Forearm and shoulder tackles don't make a hit malicious. It's easy to dissect it in slow motion after the fact. In real time both guys were moving at full speed to either get or prevent a 1st down. Trevor could have slid sooner but chose to push it for a reason. You want to say he led with the forearm and brace but I guarantee he isn't thinking about that in the moment. His only concern is preventing the 1st down and a chest tackle takes longer.
People that continue to defend dirty players blow my mind.
We understand you’re soft. It’s ok
@@SwayPromoyou’ve never played a high level sport in your life foh
@@SwayPromo It's not about being soft, it's about playing with respect for the game and for others. Brian Dawkins of the Eagles used to make the hardest hits, but you'll never find a clip of him making the type of hits Azeez has been guilty of.
@ like I said… soft
Have you? Basketball at the local park doesnt count
How is attempting to break somebody neck playing defense?
Lmao you’re a 🤡
According to Texans fans commenting here, a illegal forearm to the face is legal retribution for someone trying to scratch a couple more yards.
Which makes sense when Texans players have never, and will never, bend a rule 😂
@ I’m a Texans fan. And if cj tried to get some extra yards like that the defender should try and take his head off too….
Trevor Lawrence sliding puts his head in a dangerous position. He slid too late.
You're not smart. If you actually watch the film instead of being an emotional child, you'll see that he hit him in the shoulder first and then he slid up to his neck because that's how movement works.
Don't be a girl or a child and this won't be so difficult to understand.
They should just do away with sliding. It puts both the quarterback and defender in a bad position. So if you gonna run take the hit or throw the ball away.
You cant throw the ball away once you're passed the line of scrimmage
Yes I know. I'm saying you throw an incomplete pass or throw it out of bounds or try to run in which you get hit like the rest of the nfl.
But sliding should be banned. It causes more harm than good.
Terrible coaching. And for a grown man with a well functioning brain to go out there and still try to hit the QB after he is down. It’s even worse.
The Josh Allen one annoys me. He clearly does a juke. It wasn't like the defender stopped, he just did what happens when most db's try tackling Allen and got shrugged off.
THANK YOU! HE LITERALLY STOPPED AND CHANGED DIRECTION! NO INTENTION OF SLIDING! People just hate on Allen because he is Allen
Make a rule fake sliding and fake going out of bounds results in 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty. Late sliding should not have defender penalized. Implement two step rule like late hit on QBs. If defender hits QB within 2 steps its fair game
Watching mahomes run clearly out of bounds to stop the d only to cut up the sideline for 30 makes me sick.
The rule for fake sliding already exists, it’s too hard for refs to judge intent most of the time.
"We can't play defence any more." Incorrect. You can't play clumsy defence and needlessly injure a player because of being clumsy. This isn't tough, it's reckless and low-skill.
Ion care what qb do… that was a dirty play period by a dirty player
Yall really never watched football pre 2000 eh?
@ yea rules were different… I like physical football but that was dirty
@@kenosabiI’ve seen Brady get a roughing the passer call because he got tapped in the face tf are you talking about
Launching is illegal and dirty play . You don't know common sense @@kenosabi
Never ejected? Then this is mostly on the NFL! If he was ejected or suspended for a previous violation it’s possible he would have changed his play on the field and this wouldn’t have happened.
3 games? Should be gone for the season. Make the consequence severe enough where we never see it again.
Forearm to the head... that is clear in the replay. That is illegal. Throw in his history for just this season. The suspension is 👌
Lmfaoooo awww look a B*^%*
Change the whole sport not the slide.
He didn't have to hit him. Simple contact would complete the play. The coach is mad but honestly he sounds like a child who got in trouble with their parents
Did you not see the videos of Josh Allen hesi-sliding??? They didn't even show Mahomes and all of his clips because they have to protect their golden boy.
You’re an idiot.
He slid late because he was trying to get extra yards.. the defender already going full speed…he can injured himself just like the ravens player tore his acl trying to stop a hit because the qb slid late as well….
The rule needs to be made. Once you hezzy to stutter step before sliding then the play is over. No more fake sliding
There's no debating. Azeez hit was dirty. Lawrence was clearly sliding and Azeez took the opportunity to take a cheap shot and knock him out. Azeez should be banned. If he can't learn to pull up or jump over a sliding player, he's not fit for today's NFL and he needs to go. I get his team (and their fans) acting like this suspension was unfair. But nobody else should feel sorry for Azeez. He's a grown man.
Banned is a lot. A whole lot. Suspension for sure but he should have a chance to come back
Frankly, Azeez is a dirty player, it is not the first time he has done something like this, if he had not been suspended before it is irrelevant, since what he did is indefensible. And the league should definitely start putting more restraints and fines on dirty players like him. The physical integrity of the players must be protected.
Josh Allen did this once and it was more of a stop start to change direction than fake slide. Josh Allen does a fake throw more on the run...that's it!
Most QBs don’t fake slide so it’s pretty ridiculous to me. Fake going out of bounds thing is more of a thing than fake sliding, even with the plays some claim are a fake slide it’s very arguable imo
Azeez has a history of dirty plays.
Just like the court systems instead of just fining someone 20 times for money. Make an example from the start instead and they won't think they can pay their way out of it..
That forearm to the head was dirty , Lawrence wanted to go for first and not slide earlier then he should be ready to be hit just not with forearm to the head. His argument don't make sense he's never been ejected or suspended yeah that's why they finally doing it cause they gave him chances numerous times and he still does it
Your comment is the Only smart and observational one made.
QBs trying to get away with late slides isn’t the case here lol. He was still standing when Trevor started the slide. It was a bad hit. He got suspended. Moving on
Basic rule for the Defensive Players...Dont go for the Legs/Knees...Dont go for the Head. You can literally end a players career, with such a hit. Its really not that complicated. Azeez Al-Shaair looked like he was trying to decapitate Trevor Lawrence. The suspension was justified. Period.
That makes no sense the game is played at a high speed. Some guys can’t be tackled unless you go for their knees/legs(Derrick Henry). So the defense is supposed to let the offense score to protect them???
How about we put flags around the waist ? If you ever played the game the things you are saying is harder than it seems .
Trevor Lawrence is 6’4 210+ . I wanna see you tackle him in a safe way .
You can use as much word salad as you want. But that Forarm shiver to the helmet was intentional and deliberate. It wasn't close to the sidelines. He wasn't trying to fake the defender out. The defensive player had a choice and he made it.
Hawkins said " habitual line stepper" like Charlie Murphy called Rick James.😂😂😂😂😂😂
QBs need to be forced to slide sooner, many seem to invite the foul because 15 yards is huge in a close game. The hit was wrong but no running the ball 'to the edge' either.
Quarterbacks who take advantage of the protection rules have nothing to do with this specific situation. Why does everyone keep bringing it up?
They're making a "boy who cried wolf" argument essentially.
The Texans GM said the same about Deshawn Watson
Is that the same GM? If so, smh
And then traded him for 3 1st rounders. Dont you think it was more about that. 😂😂😂😂
@ he’s a good GM a bad judge of character, bad choice of words!
Deshaun never played a snap under Caserio
The call out of Kuechly was great. I wish there was more of that conversation. Our favorite and probably best LBs probably have fine records that look insane. He defintely deserves a suspension but 3 feels excessive. I wonder if the league over-shot it knowing he'd appeal and then it comes down to a more reasonable suspension. We're talking about Azeez knowing that Trevor was sliding but where is the conversation about Trevor seeing Azeez coming in and not protecting himself? We see the viewpoint from behind Trevor and assume that Azeez had more time. Have we seen the viewpoint from behind Azeez to say maybe Trevor needed to slide earlier?
@tribadist He got suspended 3 games because this is stuff that he does REGULARLY but consistently gets away with it, and apparently the NFL was just fed up with it
Not one of you can produce footage of Mahomes fake sliding.. Not even once!. As far as skirting the sideline to get a couple more yards..every WR and RB does it to, its part of the game. If they're still in bounds when you hit them you wont be flagged..if theyre even an inch out of bounds then its a penalty and its going to be called. Its up to defenders to have awareness of where they are on the field before they hit.
There has only been 1 clip of it
If you don't know that QBs are treated differently than WR/RBs, then why are you talking at all?
Enough of your they/them opinions.
@@Tom-q6b Theyre treated differently in the pocket..the NFL has decided that for the safety of QBs..but once theyre a ball carrier that protection is removed. The very same hit would have been a penalty against a RB or WR that gives themselves up and slides. You may not like it but its the rules. So go wine to the NFL rules committee..not to me just because you dont understand the rules or dont agree with them
@@pcd565 Mahomes has never fake slid..nor can anyone produce evidence of it
@JamesKennedy-t9h you're a goofball. Saw a clip of it yesterday.
Dude lead with his forearm. This is a non-story. He would not have been suspended if it was just about a late hit. Dude is a dirty player and threw a forearm at someone’s head.
Yah he pretty much launched himself. That's the problem I have with it. I think the consequences were fitting.
I'm all for rules being implemented to protect the players BUT in a lot of these instances...the defensive player is watching the offensive player initiate the slide and they still keep coming to hit the player. As a defensive player you can see the other player dropping to the floor and pressing the eject button.
What part of football was cold cocking the bears player on the sideline!?!
It needs to be changed to a knee not a slide when someone intercepts the ball they never get lit up when they take a knee
You think someone running full speed can just randomly knee? He’d blow his ligaments out 😂
@ what you’re saying makes no sense if they are running full speed how can a defender react to them sliding then ?
I agree. I always thought the slide was dumber. I think taking a knee is faster. And there head will be farther from the ground
Let’s stop acting like AL is the first defensive player to hit a QB late like that! Thats why I kinda of hate 247 sports media now days. They over gas light 💩. I’ve seen worst hits than that in the NFL!
Great discussion from the panel. Key points were hit that needed to be addressed.
If Joe Mixon got hit like this, it wouldn’t even be news
Take the sliding away. Once you're past the line of scrimmage, you can't be protected. If you want to protect yourself as a qb, then you can dive, which is much safer IMO
This conversation is so clownish and being dragged out. He deserved the suspension. END OF STORY. Must be a slow news day
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If they made a rule that QB's can only scramble for the 1st down and every inch after that doesn't count id laugh 😂😅...
i haven't seen the "fake" slides myself as my team sucks and my qb likes to collide head on...BUT i do agree if there is a fake slide it should be a substantial penalty. player safety is not something to joke around with for a few yards on 1 play. regular slides should stop the yardage gain just before the slide too. for the defenders, there needs to be a clear/early sign of sliding. either a league wide sign/tell like the fair catch or no penalties for a hit in the middle of a slide. if you need that 1st down you'll run for it. if they're just wanting a few yards and not ready for the hit they'll slide. no more last minute/fake slides.
Days leading up to his suspension every analyst said he should be suspended. Now I hear complaining. QB's are protected, we know this. As a fan we do not want to see the star QB go down to a hit that could of been prevented.
Seems relatively easy to solve. If a defender has to go down, towards the QB, then that is cause for fine/suspension. The QB is down/giving up. “Down” is the operative word. Player no longer vertical, he’s given up. Defender has to lower his body to hit that player seems to be a foul.
Rule should be that you need to have 2 feet out of bounds or completely down in bounds before youre immune from contact. If you want to play running back then youre going to have to take a few shots.
I cant believe we're having this conversation. Qb's do get special treatment but the guy that got suspended is a dirty player.the slide shouldn't even be in question ,the dude went head hunting and has a history. Enough is enough
I’m a defensive guy my job is to hit the Qb.. All that sliding late and fake sliding and even fake running out of bounds to give yourself up has to be stopped cause idk any 4.3-4.5 runner or even an 300 plus pound lineman that can stop on a dime
These Jeff Saturday takes on this incident feel personal... He's blowing all of this way out of proportion
Two cats running full speed and then both trying to pull back last minute will soften the hit?
One launched dude. You can't do that.
@tom4150 I've seen "launched" defenders hit the sliding WB with their helmets, and shoulder pads. To me, this was a collision that occurred where the defender make a split decision that cost him. But I don't think this was as malicious as it made to look. When a QB slides, the defender will have to jump out the way to prevent any collision.
Debate about the sliding rule makes sense but this is no where close to a situation where its debatable if Lawrence was going to slide or not. He gave himself up early and the defender targeted him. Now players like Mahomes and Allen abuse the rule and we see it every game, the clear answer is a fake slide should minimum be a 15 yard penalty and maximum removal from the game
Finally people are speaking up
Finally. Put this on the QB's.
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Sometimes QBs put themselves in situations like this. Trevor saw that man a mile away and still slid late.
Surrenders should be clear and obvious. The rule is there for safety, so it should not be ABLE to be taken advantage If a QB is surrendering themselves it should be done so far in advance that no reasonable person should have to guess. If you are waiting for the absolute last second, then you have not surrendered and it should not be a penalty. And any fake slide should be unsportsmanlike and 15yd penalty.
They should do a fair catch wave like a kick. If the defender has already left his feet, the wave does not count..
The defender did NOTHING wrong.
Once the target has been locked in, and he has committed to the hit, there is no pulling back.
The QB needs to be responsible and (1) slide earlier and (2) don't leave yourself exposed as you slide.
The NFL is getting ridiculous with the way they are rigging the game towards the offence.
They are making the game indefensible.
If you leave the pocket and are running in the open field in my opinion you are fair game. You are a QB. Not a running back.
Should the QB be allowed to slide sure.
Doesn’t mean you should get an special treatment.
Then you can limit this kind of BS.
Let the defense play defense.
We remember all the great defenses of years gone by not bc they were nice, but because they were fearsome and you knew they were going to bring it.
this is crazy, the dude literally lunged with his elbows at the mans head, how are they defending that, stop the foolishness they see that... talking about the texans GM
It's my impression, from the comments here, that Texans fans believe any rule bending deserves bodily harm, and that no Texans players ever bend a rule. 😂
kam chancellor, sean taylor, ray lewis, ed reed, clay mathews, etc. would've had their legacy ruined by today's rules... the game has gone softer, and maybe it's not a bad thing, but when the rule as a defender is to whop a player carrying the ball and that defender goes for the midsection, but the offensive player (who's advantage is having the defender NOT know what they will do) goes low to where a hit at the hips or midsection now become the head... it's kinda hard. if they wanna make qbs safe, then don't allow them to foolishly think at full speed they should stop protecting themselves or to stop trying to stretch plays out as much as they can and then slide.
Not defending the forearm...But Trevor Lawrence was running full steam ahead, completely upright. From the moment he showed signs of sliding to when the contact happened - less than 1 second. Ask the defenders that let up on Mahomes only to see him go past them.
NFL and consistency are straight up antonyms. Lets be real.
Sliding is dangerous. It puts your head in the target zone of the defender, without the ability to protect yourself. We need to ban the slide.
This is actually a solution, I’m not sure the NFL will do it as they prioritize QBs but this would make it easier on defenders.
I have to add that any position can slide as well though so that could cause an issue at some point
This is the most espn has talked about anything Houston related
The qb sliding should have to protect themselves. The sliding right before you get hit is crazy kinda. It’s alot like in hockey when a player turns right before getting hit and creates a hitting from behind scene. Games to fast to stop on a dime
Defense players shouldn't launch.
They fell to realize when stuff like this happens the Person who committed the foul has to Be the Punished to Prove a Point
Great convo
Jeff has no explanation for defending a sudden 3 game suspension with no prior suspensions. Those 3 games are Dolphins, Chiefs, and Ravens
He was fined for those violations. That's why he was suspended. He continued to break the rules.
Sudden? A list of violations over years and a huge dirty hit lol
A fine would have been more appropriate but jeff is right. It would have been his 5th fine this year, on top of the worst outcome yet from his actions. So i think they want him to take his foot off the gas a little
He also said he's gotten 7 warnings from the league, which isn't automatic when getting a fine.
Plus, it was a forearm to the face which is never legal.
@ forearm to the face is totally legal. What should he have led with? It’s more so that trev was sliding and it came after the knee was down.
@@RackflippaIt's never legal, look it up, I did... 🙄
Blows to, or with, the head are illegal since the whole concussion debacle about 14yrs ago...
Suspension is appropriate. The guy constantly broke the rules. Consequences matter
@@therocket280z7 he launched. You are dumb
Just make it so runners have to slide earlier or make it penalty for a late slide. At some point we have to put more blame on the runner instead of totally on the defensive player
The more I look at the incident it looks like a combination of a lack of timing on both players part.... Sliding still puts the QB at risk... If Trevor stayed upright running and tried to evade the tackle this doesn't happen the dudes like 7feet tall your not getting hit in the head. once you lay down Sally (sliding) your head vulnerable... Running backs don't slide
Let's just go back and take a look how Runyan played ball, he was an absolute savage and had more than his fair share of devastating late blocks. Kind of funny honestly.