I mean I don’t like Bama either but that’s just blatantly false, SC and Ole Miss have three losses and were both in the convo for the last spot. Granted I woulda went with Ole Miss but that’s just me
I agree but I can understand the argument for why they are in at the same time. They had a stronger schedule and played better vs the best teams in the country. That said I dont think they deserve to be in just because they played a harder schedule. I think wins and losses SHOULD matter but by putting them in the playoff the committee is saying that it doesnt matter who you lose tp and it only matters who you beat.
They also lost to an unranked Vandy team. Ohiostate lost 2 games by a combined 4 points but also won 2 top 5 match ups. Alabama gets a pass because of the fan base and it's BS.
No matter how screwed a team is to be deemed "13th" instead of "12th", it's still SOOOOOOO much better than arguing who is the "2nd" vs "3rd" best team (which until this year, used to decide a shot at the national championship). Maybe a team with 2 or 3 losses gets screwed, but it used to be UNDEFEATED teams were getting screwed. This is a way better system overall.
Strongly agree. This should be the discussion. 5-12 are lucky to even be invited. If you're crying about being 13th or 14th instead of 12th, you should be thankful to even be in the conversation with the new system.
Yeah after the FSU debate last year or the UCF debate a couple of years ago its good to see that an undefeated team would have a real shot. Especially since its the 5 highest ranked conference champions. Its not just the P4 champs plus the best G5 champion. There was a real chance that the Big 12 champion could have been left out if Army had managed to upset Notre Dame because if they did that and ended undefeated and won their conference championship I dont know how you could have justified leaving them out with a win on the road vs a top 10 team
@@gothard5 Yeah, you're correct, but it does give less ammo to them, and I'd bet we'll see a lot fewer bogus national championship claims after the playoffs.
@@RobertReital I'm very happy that they aren't doing the BCS style of "the champions of these specific conferences plus one more", it's made Boise State's path much more satisfying this year.
@@JayTide I can a hoot about my CANES . We didn't handle business and neither did Tides .. that means wins doesn't matter anymore only the brands. Tides got moved up after beating Mercer 😅😅
@@Mike88Gthat's subjective given all their good wins are in the sec. The problem is the obvious bias sec has in college football and the lack of awareness when certain teams like bama are a notch below what they usually are. Big 10 generally gets same treatment.. . We're also talking about the last position in playoffs, so realistically who ever the committee chooses, their not going to be that dominant play off team. There will be something about them to question..
The U are punks. Always will be. Post Jimmy Johnson. Miami fan since Schnellenberger. No, as much as you try to dress up those convicts, thats a convict program
" behind Bama" They are only "behind Bama" because Bama got a favorable ranking despite getting worked by a bad Oklahoma team. I do appreciate the honesty tho. I have read posts on Bama forums and overwhelming their fans don't think they should be in the playoffs. Miami should get in with their 2 losses, IMO. There D is bad but offense is really good. Syracuse is ranked and Georgia Tech loss not looking so bad after the Georgia game. I digress... South Carolina is playing much better football than Alabama ( Ole Miss is too if we're being honest) The 'eye test' criteria was supposed to mean something according to the committee. And before you reply " we beat SC head to head", I'll let you know you're talking to a Tennessee fan. We were getting left out for Bama just 2-3 weeks ago even tho we beat Bama head to head and were beating Georgia before some really questionable calls. Tennessee should have never lost to Arkansas. I own that, and the team should own that. That was a bad loss. If we played them again right now we'd beat them for sure. Having said that, I was fine with Tennessee being left out a couple weeks ago, but only because I felt Ole Miss and Texas Tech were playing better football at the time. At some point you just have to put your fandom to the side in favor of being an honest person.
@@chriskeith5742 if Ole miss had of made it I would be fine. Alabama had the head to head with South Carolina but i could still see the logic. All 3 have shown the capability to be elite if they put it together. Miami never has. Miami has done literally nothing to show they can play at a playoff level. They havent beaten a ranked team, they havent dominated their lesser opponents. The offense is good but they are giving up 40 to bad offenses. What have they done to show they can play with anyones best game?
@@davidlevins7646 Mami's lack of quality wins definitely hurts them if you compare them to another 2 loss team. They found ways to not get that 3rd loss, tho. Alabama didn't. And it's not just that Alabama lost 3 it's the 2 bad losses that stick out the most. Ole Miss's and Miami's losses were all close. Real close. Bama got boat raced by Oklahoma. Oklahoma is not good this year. Losing to them is one thing, getting boat raced is another. Add that to getting beat by Vandy and that is pretty ugly. Ole Miss boat raced SC. I am probably with you on them. Eye test and all they probably deserve that last spot. If Miami got in over them I guess I couldn't complain tho because Ole Miss should have never lost to KY ( especially at home) and they had their chance to beat Flordia at the end of the year and make it to an SEC championship. Miami also boat raced Flordia. So there's that.
I agree. I’d rather have undefeated or 1 loss teams that have ZERO top 25 wins get in like Texas, SMU, Boise State, Penn State, Notre Dame, Indiana and Arizona State. Kind of amazing that all these teams haven’t beaten a good team all season.
So SOS matters only for wins but not for teams losses? Guy was tossing out top 25 wins in an alabama vs Miami scenario, but didn’t mention how bad any of their losses were…
@@jamareycarter5550 you’re reiterating my point… teams over .500 is a better indicator because top 25 is voter based. Miami lost one more game when comparing .500 records, and both of Miami’s losses are by one score. Alabama losing to vandy and Oklahoma were worse than Miami’s losses and that’s not even considering Alabama’s third loss. On a different note, since the SEC is valued higher than the ACC, what would your playoff scenario look like if Clemson beats SMU? Clemson would get in as ACC champs but SMU’s only losses would be to BYU and Clemson who are both ranked. Would BYU bump Alabama out?
@@Day2day247teams over .500 is misleading in different ways 10-1 Army who played 1 real team all year is not better than a 4-5 B10 or SEC team. Absurd. A loss to NIU at home is impeachable offense. ND should be the lowest ranked 1 loss team.
ESPN owns the SEC - Why wouldn’t a quarter of the teams be SEC teams. They’ve rigged CFB for years for the SEC; especially for BAMA. It was once said in the beginning of the playoff format that you had to win your conference. Then, they moved the goal post on two different occasions to allow Bama to play for the title. It’s disgusting!
Actually you can make a very strong argument that more SEC teams should get in this year. Half of the playoff bracket doesn’t have a single quality win.
@@Kingepticonmaybe that's because of the bias pre season rankings for the sec.. How many those sec teams have quality wins outside their own conference , not many. They need to do away with preseason ranking , play first 3 or 4 games of the season and rank teams from there., Good example is Texas there win against Michigan looks different now than than week 2 , when they played. The rest thier schedule isn't that impressive, with the exception of loss to Georgia and win against Texas Am. Are they playoff team sure , but their schedule isn't that much different realistically from say a 2 lose Miami team or even a three loss Clemson team.
3 loss alabama vs 3 loss georgia who played an extra game and lost in the championship game is not the same thing. Not an SEC fan but those aren't the same thing
@@BackyardAquatics-o2m Teams have ups and downs. You think the AL that faced GA was the same team that faced OK? Head to head matters, but the rest of the body of work does too. Tyler's right that an extra loss from the championship can't be considered as big a deal as the regular season loss. In the same way, the final top 12, after conference games are done but before the playoff starts, should be considered the final top 12. All but 1 of them are guaranteed to lose an extra game. Any of them could possibly rise to #1, but they cannot drop below the non-playoff line. That wouldn't make any sense.
And the quality of the losses are not even close GA lost to Bama by one touchdown and lost to a really good Ole Miss team. What’s interesting is how Ole Miss beat GA by more pints and later in the season yet the Bama Georgia win seems to count much more and I would argue Ole Miss also has better quality losses than Bama
He talked about Alabama playing better in their last three games than Miami. Alabama played Mercer, Oklahoma, and Auburn. All those teams are under .500 and garbage. This committee decides nothing. They get an email from Vegas and the douchebags at ESPN, then release whatever they are told.
If you switched their logo's and SC had the same exact resume that Bama has right now and vise versa, you wouldn't be crying if they put SC in, but big bad bama had to be the one with the best argument so now everyone is crying, so sad :(
This was the plan all along. They were always going to do whatever it took to get Alabama in. They'd expand the playoffs to 88 teams if Alabama was ranked 88.
Two of Alabamas losses are bad losses, if they had one bad loss and two to ranked opponents sure but loosing to Vanderbilt the joke of the SEC and OU is irredeemable
Vandy wasn't the joke this year. They went 8 -4 they beat some good teams and gave Texas all they wanted. Florida and Miss st are the jokes this year. So Bama had 1 bad loss. Everybody just keeps repeating that vandy is sub .500 which is flat out, NOT TRUE.
Yeah I think the committee knows that if they punish SMU for losing their championship game then teams next season will opt out of the conference championship to keep their spot in the playoffs.
@@evangelionl0vr857 If SMU is any good, they are NOT losing that game. IF they lose it, they should get trimmed out of the playoffs like the fat of a Christmas Ham.
Sorry the conferences are the way they are, it’s a problem. Yeah it sucks for them but these acc teams have zero ranked wins, it creates an inability to compare these teams
Just remember, last year, Alabama (with their starting QB) needed a miracle to beat Auburn, a bad SEC team, got rolled by Texas at home and had a few other underwhelming performances. FSU lost their best player, went to the Swamp and won while covering the spread and beat a top 15 Louisville with a 3rd string QB while once again covering the spread. Alabama was rewarded and FSU was penalized. Why is anyone surprised the committee, for the second year in a row, doesn't care about Alabama losing?
I think the long term solution should be no preseason top 25. Wait until about week six to start because by then everyone should have an idea about who is good and who is not.
@@thierrylepere9828no they won’t. If Georgia loses and has 3 losses Tennessee could jump them and take the home game because they’d be at a lower seed. This whole thing of who’s playing home games isn’t set. If Georgia losses by 14 or more there is a very real possibility it moves around. Not to mention if Oregon blows out Penn state, Ohio state would move up.
I’ve looked at brackets my whole life. Not one time has a 1 seed gone against a 8 or 9 rather than the 12 seed makes zero sense. The highest seed should get rewarded.
This is a modified 16 team bracket, where 13-16 are replaced by byes. In a 16 team bracket like March Madness, the 1 seed does get the winner of 8v9. If I’m the 1 seed, I would prefer this version to getting the winner of 5v12.
I've been screaming this for weeks. Not saying bama is better than 13 14 15 but they bring way more money and traveling fans than them. It's not ok but it is what it is. CFP is now about money than anything it was that way last year with fsu
As an Iowa state fan I hope you guys win so there’s at least 1 big 12 team in. I’m convinced if we win then we don’t make it and a Miami or ole miss slides in the 12 spot
@@walkercave3769I appreciate that but I think either one of us wins we will be in. That’s another top 25 matchup on whoever’s resume which should give us the edge over Miami.
regarding 'controversy'. we're talking about the 12th best team in the country and that's potentially a 3 loss team. no 3 loss team should be complaining about not making it in. you lost 3 freaking games. what matters is all the teams that have a clear and strong argument for being the best team in the country are in so that any lingering questions left by a 4 team playoff are answered on the field.
This is it right here. You have 5 conference champions and all the undefeated and 1 loss teams in. Any 2 or 3 loss teams beyond that are basically field fillers.
100%. Just WIN MORE. If you argue you have a harder schedule then stop bragging about how much better you are than the smaller school with the weaker schedule. You have a harder schedule because you’re a bigger program and reasonably have a “better team”.
So you're saying you could schedule the twelve worst 12 teams in college football and win them all and get in when another team is eight and four. But wins five top ten teams should be out. Then that's total b. S . The truth. Is nobody wants to play bama
We're not complaining about not making it, we're complaining about those bastards making it when they deserve it even less than we do. Clearly a business decision by the committee.
The second of all how’s Notre Dame even in the playoffs they don’t even have a conference, so why should they get an automatic bid when they don’t even play a championship game?
The problem, I have with it is the big 12 conference is being thrown under the jail, on one hand the committee is saying we value conference champions just not you big 12 , we don’t value you so much we are putting 11 other teams including Notre dame who don’t play a championship above you . Big 12 should at least get the next highest bid 5 . Coming from big ten fan .
Miami out for Bama is criminal. If your talking about a talent and entertainment standpoint Ward, Restrepo, Arroyo, come on! Disrespect for favoritism.
Let’s get rid of people and their biases and make the rankings done via computers & artificial intelligence. This selection committee is an absolute joke.
The bama homers would cry death to the machines if they got left out. It would be hilarious watching a bunch of zoolanders trying to take down the computers.
If you base your computer algorithm as 1. Strength of schedule 2. Wins over top ranked teams. 3. Overall record. Then guess what? Bama still IN..That is ALL!!!
One big question we still don't have an answer to: what if one of the conference champ teams has an injury to a star player like with FSU last year? Can a team that's not in now move in with a high ranked team leaving with a loss and star player injury?
I thought the 12-team playoff was going to solve the committee's Bias toward Alabama (9-3), Miami (10-2), Iowa St (10-2), BYU (10-2), UNLV (10-2), Army (10-1), Memphis (10-2).
IF SMU loses to Clemson then Alabama has to be the first team out. Theyre the lowest ranked at-large team. As long as its not a 50 point blowout for Clemson. If its a 2 score game or maybe a 3 score game where Clemson gets a late score to push it to a 3 score game I think you have to bump Alabama. They may have a good resume vs the top 25 to their credit. BUT, they have 2 very bad losses including a very ugly loss to an Oklahoma team that ended the season at .500.
I wouldn’t really have a problem with bama being in, even with that Oklahoma loss if it wasn’t such a disgusting loss. 24-3 loss in any other college football era would eliminate you from contention 99% of the time. It was such a bad loss it made Indiana’s loss to Ohio st seem like no big deal.
The point of playoffs is to get the subjectivity/bias/corruption out. This system has failed. Go to 8 teams, 7 highest conference champions in the AP poll and highest independent. Eliminates the committee. Ensures the NATION is represented, and preserves the importance of conference championships. Minimizes subjectivity to just the traditional poll. No byes. Equal footing. Objective. True, fair playoff.
If your an Alabama fan, I just can't see how you would feel proud or be happy to see a team that doesn't deserve to be in playoffs get in. Any other SEC team lose games to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma, and they likely wouldn't even be ranked. Not only that, Oklahoma held Alabama to 3 points. Even when looking at schedules, Alabama barely made it past Georgia, lost to Tennessee, and they barely beat South Carolina. Sure, they beat Missouri as well, but South Carolina beat Missouri, Oklahoma, Vanderbilt, Clemson, and Texas A&M. They lost the head to head match and unfortunately had the bad officiating in the LSU game. The Gamecocks have proven to be a more competent team, and so has Miami. Miama hasn't let a team beat them by 21, especially an unranked team.
As an SMU fan, given the fact that we were disrespected for the entire season, it's win-and-we're-in mode. A loss means our season is over, plain and simple.
Shouldnt be.... This "committee" has repeatedly said it would not punish a team for playing a 13th game(Title game). SO.... if SMU does lose, then the committee shouldnt kick them out of the playoffs. If they do, then its hypocritical. I dont think SMU is that great, but you cant make it a BAD thing to play in a conference title game.
@JSum81 I understand what your saying. What I'm saying is strength of schedule and performance should be more important. Smu might be pretty good this year but if you put them against a team in the SEC. Which they haven't played all year they would have a hard time. We don't need tcu Georgia again
@@JSum81I think what should happen is if you’re in the playoffs and play in a conference championship you shouldn’t be penalized, but if you’re on the outside looking in and lose a conference championship I think you should stay out. Example, if Clemson loses they stay out, if they win, both SMU and Clemson get it
@@JSum81 I mean, they *should* punish them though. A loss is a loss. They're only saying that to make conferences refrain from getting rid of championship games. And they have not said it categorically. Basically, their stance now is that they'll pay attention and try not to penalize teams unless they lose horribly (which I still think is too lenient).
The whole world is sick and tired of seeing their school getting knocked out of the playoffs because the NCAA wants to stick Alabama in there. Really sick of this. Florida State was undefeated and got screwed because the NCAA had to put Alabama in the playoffs. Figure that one out.
The quality games for SEC will drop. Why would I risk playing top quality teams if I love a close one and am forced out, when 4 teams in the top 12 have ZERO "quality wins? This is the absolute worst playoff committee in the history of college football and none of those idiots should ever be near a place to judge for a college football playoff ever again.
If you always suspected bias and bullsht, here is your proof. We can't have ONE YEAR that they don't get in? They lost three games, two to teams they should have handles easily. This is total crap. Hope they have to play a frozen game in the far north and get stuffed. This is really unfair to the teams that didn't get a chance.
I think the 5th conference champion should automatically be the 5th seed and get home field advantage. How can we give 4 champions a bye and home field and the 5th champion is playing on the road round 1?
What he should have said is that the teams that arent playing in conference championship games cant move up in the rankings cause they aren't playing butt they can move down because of the teams playing in those game could possibly jump and move teams down
How can there not be a difference in data points? It Texas beats Georgia, Georgia is no longer as good a win for teams like Alabama. If Clemson beats SMU, they're a demonstrably better win for South Carolina. We will absolutely have data points.
Besides Oregon, Georgia has twice as many Top 25 wins as the top 4 teams………… combined lol. If Texas beats Georgia it won’t diminish Alabama’s win. Having said that I don’t think Alabama should be in the playoffs no matter what happens on Saturday.
@@br1rocks I disagree. If SMU loses a close game to Clemson I think that knocks Alabama out. If Boise loses a close game to UNLV I think Alabama is out. If both of those things happen then Alabama is definitely eliminated.
This year it seems to be strength of schedule and who you played! Alabama played 5 ranked teams throughout the season and ended 3-1 with LSU dropping out. Miami had 0 wins against ranked teams. They played no one throughout the season. Yes, Alabama has 2 ugly loses but no one else had their wins either.
Why are people still acting like this is still college football? The name remains but it's the NIL league now. This is about money and who can make the most. Stop acting like Ole miss or Miami can bring in Alabama bank. Stop acting like this is real football anymore.
So then can UNLV beat BSU and both teams stay in? There would be 4 losses between them each beating each other once, BSU by a walk off field goal to Oregon and UNLV in over time to Syracuse
This game and the SMU Clemson game are the only games that matter this weekend. Could upend the whole playoff if BSU and SMU both lose. 🙏 I love chaos!
No for the G5 the conference champion comments dont apply. The G5 will always draw the short end in this and this was always a potential issue for the 12 team if you had two difference G5 conference champions its extremely likely that 1 G5 team would always be the max that could make it.
Combined quality ranking of Ole Miss and Alabama's losses: 1. Alabama loss to Tennessee 2. Ole Miss loss to LSU 3. Ole Miss loss to Florida 4. Alabama loss to Vandy 5. Ole Miss close loss to Kentucky 6. Alabama route by Oklahoma. By this metric, I would argue that Ole Miss deserves it more by a HAIR
As an ohio state fan...ANY OTHER YEAR I can see Bama sec bais....but Bama is trash this year....you can't lose to ou and VANDY AND MAKE ANYONRS PLAYOFFS
Let’s talk about ND being ranked 4th with the worst loss of any ranked team. NIU at home, 1 ranked team on their entire schedule (army 😂) if only 1 loss is that meaningful why are SMU and Indiana behind ND? Much better single losses and I would argue more difficult schedules, unless someone actually believes Army is top 25. Army has 1 loss to ND, a better loss than ND has, they should be ranked higher than ND!
They've painted themselves into a corner by putting out a ranking this week. There shouldn't be a ranking after the final week of the regular season, just wait until after the conference championships.
Bama lost to the ENTIRE state of Tennessee and got absolutely got SPANKED by Oklahoma (6-5 team), hell they couldn't even make 1 touchdown against OK 😂 !! Bama lost to arguably two of the worst teams in the SEC...Vandy & Oklahoma...they don't deserve to be anywhere close to the Playoffs!!
The SMU thing seems pretty easy. They're ranked 8th. If they lose, Clemson takes their spot in the bracket, SMU moves over to the 8th spot and everyone below them slides down the bracket.
I don’t think so. I think Clemson moves to the #12 spot and BoiseSt moves to the #3 spot, the Big12 champion moves to #4 and SMU moves to #11 and knocks Alabama out.
@@riggsmarkham922if you’re knocked out for losing your Conference Championship then there’s no incentive for teams to try to even get to one. If SMU loses they should move down to #11 and Clemson should move to #12.
Bammy lost 25% of its games to teams who lost a combined 40% of their games. I don't want to hear another effing word about this overrated team. And, 33% of Bammy's wins were against sublevel cupcakes (WKU, USF and Mercer) who had a 24-12 combined record. Putting Alabama in this playoff is a fg felony.
Wholeheartedly disagree. Both teams have two loses. Both a loss to a good team and to a bad team. Both of OSU’s losses were better. A field goal loss to Oregon vs a 14 point loss to Georgia (who is worse than Oregon, obviously). Then a loss to Arkansas and Michigan each by a FG and both teams are almost similar. 8 and 9 is a correct ranking with OSU at 8. I don’t see the case for Tennessee
@@TV99DE Who is ND? That trash school that Bama has destroyed over the last two decades in bowl games. That is who ND is and I might add that ND had the worse loss of the year and it is not even close.
Florida State and Georgia both missed the playoffs last year. Florida State was undefeated but their starting qb was injured so they did not receive a spot. Georgia was left out because they had a single loss to Alabama in the SEC championship. Both teams played in a bowl game, where Georgia smoked Florida State despite being ranked lower and having a worse record. However, it’s worth noting that many seniors on Florida state opted not to play, so it wasn’t really a fair matchup.
A lot of EXTREME chaos could still happen according to what Warde Manuel said: If #19 UNLV beats #10 Boise St, both of these teams will get in - forcing #11 Bama out in order to make room for #19 UNLV. This would also mean #15 Arizona St takes the 4 Seed and #19 UNLV will take the 12 Seed. If #18 Clemson beats #8 SMU, both of these teams will get in - forcing #11 Bama out in order to make room for #18 Clemson. This would also mean that #10 Boise St moves to the 3 Seed, #15 Arizona St moves to the 4 Seed, and #18 Clemson moves to the 12 Seed. If BOTH #10 Boise St & #8 SMU get upset - #11 Bama AND #10 Indiana will be forced out in order to make room for #19 UNLV & #18 Clemson. This would also mean that #15 Arizona St gets the 3 Seed, #18 Clemson gets the 4 Seed, and #19 UNLV gets the 12 Seed. For a 12-team playoff, there is a world where three teams ranked outside the Top 12 not only make it into the playoff, but TWO of them actually get first-round byes. This would be BIZARRE.
The G5 will only ever get 1 team in. In the last 25 years only 1 season has ever had 2 G5 teams make a major post season. This includes MULTIPLE SEASONS of 2+ top 8 ranked G5 teams. Its dumb, but if you want multiple G5 teams to make it both teams have to make it so insanely obvious that it would be ridiculous to keep them out and even then they still might get shafted.
@@bigyodatheman Should have - 10000% yes. Would have? ehhh id lean towards no, based on the fact that outside of 2009 no two G5 teams ever made BCS bowls. Like 2004 had #5 MWC Utah, #7 CUSA Louisville and #9 WAC BSU - theoretically all these teams should make a 12 team, but only Utah made the BCS and 3 lower ranked P5 teams made BCS bowls over Louisville and BSU.
@@MattBuild4 Yeah, but this isn't the BCS, though. The eye test for both teams would help a lot with a committee with 12 spots, especially year over year when they kept up their winning. And whatever wins they get in the playoff over "stronger" teams would help for the next year.
"how mANy rAnKeD wiNs??" Kind of hard for any other conferences to get ranked wins when every single one of the toss up spots at the edge of the Top 25 goes to the SEC and B1G every single time. Why is Missouri ranked and Duke isn't? Why is Illinois ranked and Duke isn't? Why did it take 3 weeks of Syracuse sitting behind UNLV, who they beat on the road, for the Orange to finally get ranked? If a 7-3/8-3 SEC or B1G team had beaten UNLV on the road they would've been ranked several weeks ago. If 8-4 Louisville, who beat Clemson by 4x as many points as South Carolina did, had an SEC patch on their jersey they'd be in the Top 20. The SEC & B1G get gifted rankings that could easily go elsewhere and then act like their schedules are so brutal with all their "ranked" opponents.
People complained when it was a 4 team playoff they complain after they make it a 12 team playoff lets just be real people are going complain no matter what 😂
Here's the way the playoffs should work. If you're in the top 12 going into conference championship games and play in a conference championship game the winner gets a 1st round bye, loser gets to host a playoff game. Makes that part simple. Between Miami and Bama, even as a Bama fan, Miami should be in.
The comittee dont give a piss bout nothin but the Tide 🤣
Roll tide
Reading this in the voice of Druski's old buddy that smokes too much 😂😂
DONT GIVE A PISS BOUT NUTHIN BUT THE TIDE!
Best timed comment I’ve ever seen
Rumor is Bama will move up to 8th if Clemson wins 😂😂😂
If any other team in the SEC had the same losses as Bama there wouldn’t even be a convo for them. Bring the computers back
Hate to tell you this but the computers love Alabama too.
Not true. Ole Miss is in the conversation
It's about the fan base, history & viewership. They tend to show up when it counts and people watch.
I mean I don’t like Bama either but that’s just blatantly false, SC and Ole Miss have three losses and were both in the convo for the last spot. Granted I woulda went with Ole Miss but that’s just me
I mean they have the best wins in the sec as well
Alabama got beat by an unranked OU team by 21 points. They were held to 3 points. They shouldn't be anywhere near the playoffs
I agree
I agree but I can understand the argument for why they are in at the same time. They had a stronger schedule and played better vs the best teams in the country. That said I dont think they deserve to be in just because they played a harder schedule. I think wins and losses SHOULD matter but by putting them in the playoff the committee is saying that it doesnt matter who you lose tp and it only matters who you beat.
They also lost to an unranked Vandy team. Ohiostate lost 2 games by a combined 4 points but also won 2 top 5 match ups. Alabama gets a pass because of the fan base and it's BS.
Go put another little league sticker on your helmet and maybe youll make it next year@anthonycade651
Bama scored a touchdown that could have been a huge spark and momentum change and the refs said ehhhh let’s just call that back for no reason
No matter how screwed a team is to be deemed "13th" instead of "12th", it's still SOOOOOOO much better than arguing who is the "2nd" vs "3rd" best team (which until this year, used to decide a shot at the national championship). Maybe a team with 2 or 3 losses gets screwed, but it used to be UNDEFEATED teams were getting screwed. This is a way better system overall.
Strongly agree. This should be the discussion. 5-12 are lucky to even be invited. If you're crying about being 13th or 14th instead of 12th, you should be thankful to even be in the conversation with the new system.
Yeah after the FSU debate last year or the UCF debate a couple of years ago its good to see that an undefeated team would have a real shot. Especially since its the 5 highest ranked conference champions. Its not just the P4 champs plus the best G5 champion. There was a real chance that the Big 12 champion could have been left out if Army had managed to upset Notre Dame because if they did that and ended undefeated and won their conference championship I dont know how you could have justified leaving them out with a win on the road vs a top 10 team
@@RobertReital both of those teams absolutely deserved to get left out. lost all respect for UCF when they claimed a fake national championship.
@@gothard5 Yeah, you're correct, but it does give less ammo to them, and I'd bet we'll see a lot fewer bogus national championship claims after the playoffs.
@@RobertReital I'm very happy that they aren't doing the BCS style of "the champions of these specific conferences plus one more", it's made Boise State's path much more satisfying this year.
Alabama could have 7 losses, and the committee would be like, "Well you gotta understand, their 7 losses were very high quality losses, etc etc).
And then none of those teams would be in the playoff picture 😂
They were quality losses
They played ranked teams unlike. Miami and some others who didn't
No no, this time it was about quality wins. The losses were garbage lol
Well get over it
What happened to the emphasis on the "eye test"? I gouged my eyes out watchin Alabama v OU
What you did when they played Georgia and the 8 other games they won
$ and elitism that govern college football is what happened. all they needed was a excuse to stick alabama in and miami losing gave it to them.
I concur. I've wa5ched them pretty closely, and they do not look very good, even in some of the wins that they have
@@wozzy334Georgia is grossly overrated. Did you watch the GT game? Have you watched Carson beck at all this year? He STINKS.
Lmao
Alabama vs Oklahoma scored 3 points, THEY HAVE NO OFFENSE AND 3 LOSSES, what the hell
SOS top25 w-l, beat Georgia any more questions??
@@TIDEPROCESS18 Yea, why'd you lose to OK & Vandy?
Miami and Notre Dame would of been a massive audience. I guess people dont remember Catholics vs Convicts game.
Nobody gives a hoot about a Miami team that doesn't even field a defense.
@@JayTidebama doesn't even have a offense or QB that throw a accurate pass longer than 30 yards🤣.... Ppl watch football to see touchdowns.
@@JayTide I can a hoot about my CANES . We didn't handle business and neither did Tides .. that means wins doesn't matter anymore only the brands. Tides got moved up after beating Mercer 😅😅
I think SMU vs Penn State could be god.
Canes & Tide gripping rn
The Bama Favoritism is beyond cringe at this point
Ya'll are going to mess around and light a fire under Bama's ace and they go to at least the semifinals.
You’re just talking lol. Bama has better wins than Miami and ole miss and beat South Carolina. Get a grip
@@Mike88Gthat's subjective given all their good wins are in the sec.
The problem is the obvious bias sec has in college football and the lack of awareness when certain teams like bama are a notch below what they usually are.
Big 10 generally gets same treatment.. .
We're also talking about the last position in playoffs, so realistically who ever the committee chooses, their not going to be that dominant play off team.
There will be something about them to question..
Yet, you will take it, and you will like it.
@@seabeejgMilroe is arguably the worst quarterback in the playoffs. Bama is toast
Alabama could get in with a .500 record
Alabama doesn't even have to play a down to get in.
Are you crying!? They just told you, SOS counts. !
@@Redstone256 Miami is way better so STFU 😂 the sec is way over rated this year
Feels good to be a bama fan don’t it.
@@abe5296 Miami is TRASH .. with their 59th ranked SOS.. Out here playing nobody and then getting on the internet to talk big! GTFOH
Bama lost to 2 6-6 teams. TGEY SHOULD NOT BE IN. BOTTOM LINE.
Your opinion doesn't matter princess....
They not getting in with teams with conference championships
But they are. BOTTOM LINE.
You must be a ND fan....prepare for sadness.
@DaysAhead202 Alabama not making it over conference championships
Last year fsu undefeated and was snubbed by committee for Alabama, the favoritism is unbelievable. I hate the U but they deserve it.
FSU would have gotten skull dragged that year
Guess your overlooking the point they earned that win or lose!
They only put 3 on uga last year 😂😂😂
The U are punks. Always will be. Post Jimmy Johnson.
Miami fan since Schnellenberger.
No, as much as you try to dress up those convicts, thats a convict program
But those teams don’t play anyone but Bama does
Honestly, BYU at 10-2 deserves a spot over Alabama.
Alabama should be ranked behind both Ole Miss & South Carolina.
Even Nick Saban said Ole Miss was better than Alabama this year.
How would Bama be ranked behind SC when they beat them on the field and have the same record? LMAO!!!
I thought once Saban retired that the committee would stop 🌰 hugging Alabama.
You thought wrong...
Bama is Bama, doesn't matter who the coach is.
They're hugging the 💲
You were wrong...Roll Tide!!!!
@@IronMike212 Sabin is still part of bama so the ass kissing will continue
Alabama doesn't deserve to be in.
As a Bama fan i agree. Only 8 teams actually “deserve” it tho. No one behind Bama deserves it more tho
" behind Bama"
They are only "behind Bama" because Bama got a favorable ranking despite getting worked by a bad Oklahoma team.
I do appreciate the honesty tho. I have read posts on Bama forums and overwhelming their fans don't think they should be in the playoffs.
Miami should get in with their 2 losses, IMO.
There D is bad but offense is really good. Syracuse is ranked and Georgia Tech loss not looking so bad after the Georgia game.
I digress...
South Carolina is playing much better football than Alabama ( Ole Miss is too if we're being honest)
The 'eye test' criteria was supposed to mean something according to the committee.
And before you reply " we beat SC head to head", I'll let you know you're talking to a Tennessee fan.
We were getting left out for Bama just 2-3 weeks ago even tho we beat Bama head to head and were beating Georgia before some really questionable calls.
Tennessee should have never lost to Arkansas. I own that, and the team should own that. That was a bad loss.
If we played them again right now we'd beat them for sure. Having said that, I was fine with Tennessee being left out a couple weeks ago, but only because I felt Ole Miss and Texas Tech were playing better football at the time.
At some point you just have to put your fandom to the side in favor of being an honest person.
@@chriskeith5742 if Ole miss had of made it I would be fine. Alabama had the head to head with South Carolina but i could still see the logic. All 3 have shown the capability to be elite if they put it together. Miami never has. Miami has done literally nothing to show they can play at a playoff level. They havent beaten a ranked team, they havent dominated their lesser opponents. The offense is good but they are giving up 40 to bad offenses. What have they done to show they can play with anyones best game?
@@davidlevins7646 Mami's lack of quality wins definitely hurts them if you compare them to another 2 loss team.
They found ways to not get that 3rd loss, tho. Alabama didn't.
And it's not just that Alabama lost 3 it's the 2 bad losses that stick out the most.
Ole Miss's and Miami's losses were all close. Real close. Bama got boat raced by Oklahoma. Oklahoma is not good this year. Losing to them is one thing, getting boat raced is another. Add that to getting beat by Vandy and that is pretty ugly.
Ole Miss boat raced SC. I am probably with you on them. Eye test and all they probably deserve that last spot.
If Miami got in over them I guess I couldn't complain tho because Ole Miss should have never lost to KY ( especially at home) and they had their chance to beat Flordia at the end of the year and make it to an SEC championship.
Miami also boat raced Flordia. So there's that.
Nope
No 3 loss teams. I'd rather see army
Honestly yeah
This is a terrible take lol
@@austinthornellI agree I would rather see army
I agree. I’d rather have undefeated or 1 loss teams that have ZERO top 25 wins get in like Texas, SMU, Boise State, Penn State, Notre Dame, Indiana and Arizona State. Kind of amazing that all these teams haven’t beaten a good team all season.
@@austinthornellgo watch the NFL bozo
why is no one mentioning the Alabama loss to ou that was an embarrassment that happened 2 weeks ago and no one’s taking abt it
Bc it never happened, they also never lost to Vanderbilt apparently lol those 2 losses are knocking off any other team in America
@@lukebryant5017 Exactly, and you know you love it.
But their wins are way better than anyone elses so that is ALL!!!
@@maxgee8676yeah those wins over Chattanooga and Mercer were very impressive!
Because that’s a quality loss. Alabama has 3 quality losses, Miami only has 2. That’s why bama got in
So SOS matters only for wins but not for teams losses? Guy was tossing out top 25 wins in an alabama vs Miami scenario, but didn’t mention how bad any of their losses were…
because Miami doesn't have top 25 wins.
@@jamareycarter5550 Louisville was ranked
@@jamareycarter5550 you’re reiterating my point… teams over .500 is a better indicator because top 25 is voter based. Miami lost one more game when comparing .500 records, and both of Miami’s losses are by one score. Alabama losing to vandy and Oklahoma were worse than Miami’s losses and that’s not even considering Alabama’s third loss.
On a different note, since the SEC is valued higher than the ACC, what would your playoff scenario look like if Clemson beats SMU? Clemson would get in as ACC champs but SMU’s only losses would be to BYU and Clemson who are both ranked. Would BYU bump Alabama out?
Yep. Suck it.
@@Day2day247teams over .500 is misleading in different ways 10-1 Army who played 1 real team all year is not better than a 4-5 B10 or SEC team. Absurd. A loss to NIU at home is impeachable offense. ND should be the lowest ranked 1 loss team.
ESPN owns the SEC - Why wouldn’t a quarter of the teams be SEC teams. They’ve rigged CFB for years for the SEC; especially for BAMA. It was once said in the beginning of the playoff format that you had to win your conference. Then, they moved the goal post on two different occasions to allow Bama to play for the title. It’s disgusting!
4 of 12 is 33.3%
Actually you can make a very strong argument that more SEC teams should get in this year. Half of the playoff bracket doesn’t have a single quality win.
@dawnshults7992 Nope, run those numbers back lol
@@Kingepticonmaybe that's because of the bias pre season rankings for the sec..
How many those sec teams have quality wins outside their own conference , not many.
They need to do away with preseason ranking , play first 3 or 4 games of the season and rank teams from there.,
Good example is Texas there win against Michigan looks different now than than week 2 , when they played.
The rest thier schedule isn't that impressive, with the exception of loss to Georgia and win against Texas Am.
Are they playoff team sure , but their schedule isn't that much different realistically from say a 2 lose Miami team or even a three loss Clemson team.
Yes it is rigged, and you can't do anything about it.
3 loss alabama vs 3 loss georgia who played an extra game and lost in the championship game is not the same thing. Not an SEC fan but those aren't the same thing
they already played. bama won.
@@BackyardAquatics-o2m But, that point is to be ignored.🙄
@@BackyardAquatics-o2m Teams have ups and downs. You think the AL that faced GA was the same team that faced OK? Head to head matters, but the rest of the body of work does too. Tyler's right that an extra loss from the championship can't be considered as big a deal as the regular season loss. In the same way, the final top 12, after conference games are done but before the playoff starts, should be considered the final top 12. All but 1 of them are guaranteed to lose an extra game. Any of them could possibly rise to #1, but they cannot drop below the non-playoff line. That wouldn't make any sense.
And the quality of the losses are not even close GA lost to Bama by one touchdown and lost to a really good Ole Miss team. What’s interesting is how Ole Miss beat GA by more pints and later in the season yet the Bama Georgia win seems to count much more and I would argue Ole Miss also has better quality losses than Bama
@@BackyardAquatics-o2msee you Saturday
12:20 to say Ole Miss’ losses are worse than Bamas is a joke. Alabama was humiliated by Vandy and OU
Exactly ‼️ They are just some Bama meat riders
Ole Miss blew it. They lost to a Kentucky team that had a worse record than OU or Vandy. No way they should have lost that game.
He talked about Alabama playing better in their last three games than Miami. Alabama played Mercer, Oklahoma, and Auburn. All those teams are under .500 and garbage. This committee decides nothing. They get an email from Vegas and the douchebags at ESPN, then release whatever they are told.
Bama being in over South Carolina is criminal
Beat South Carolina and has more top 25 wins
Why. They beat them
If you switched their logo's and SC had the same exact resume that Bama has right now and vise versa, you wouldn't be crying if they put SC in, but big bad bama had to be the one with the best argument so now everyone is crying, so sad :(
Bama beat them lmao
Bama wouldn't beat SC now and you know it..
This was the plan all along. They were always going to do whatever it took to get Alabama in. They'd expand the playoffs to 88 teams if Alabama was ranked 88.
Exactly! At least you understand. Now go back to your cave.
Two of Alabamas losses are bad losses, if they had one bad loss and two to ranked opponents sure but loosing to Vanderbilt the joke of the SEC and OU is irredeemable
Vandy wasn't the joke this year. They went 8 -4 they beat some good teams and gave Texas all they wanted. Florida and Miss st are the jokes this year. So Bama had 1 bad loss. Everybody just keeps repeating that vandy is sub .500 which is flat out, NOT TRUE.
@@nickbowling8506Florida went 7-5, with the 2nd hardest schedule in college football. How are they the joke of the sec?
And the losses were bad! They were dog walked in both games. Vandy and OU controlled the entire game
@ they’re not good, yes they had some solid moments but let’s stop pretending like they are even close to being a ranked team
They lost 3 times
12:57 SMU HAS to bump Alabama out if Clemson wins. The whole thing is actual BS if SMU gets knocked out for making it to their championship game.
Yeah I think the committee knows that if they punish SMU for losing their championship game then teams next season will opt out of the conference championship to keep their spot in the playoffs.
Smu has played nobody -
@bama7945 doesn't matter, they are playing by the Same rules as everyone and it's screwing them to follow the rules
@@evangelionl0vr857 If SMU is any good, they are NOT losing that game. IF they lose it, they should get trimmed out of the playoffs like the fat of a Christmas Ham.
Sorry the conferences are the way they are, it’s a problem. Yeah it sucks for them but these acc teams have zero ranked wins, it creates an inability to compare these teams
Just remember, last year, Alabama (with their starting QB) needed a miracle to beat Auburn, a bad SEC team, got rolled by Texas at home and had a few other underwhelming performances.
FSU lost their best player, went to the Swamp and won while covering the spread and beat a top 15 Louisville with a 3rd string QB while once again covering the spread. Alabama was rewarded and FSU was penalized.
Why is anyone surprised the committee, for the second year in a row, doesn't care about Alabama losing?
I think the long term solution should be no preseason top 25. Wait until about week six to start because by then everyone should have an idea about who is good and who is not.
6:10 Pat my man there’s a difference in 10-3 and 9-3. One lost their third game in the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP and one lost to OU of all SEC teams
^^THIS!
I don’t know why people are surprised Alabama leaped over an undefeated FSU last year.
And that was some BS too
Alabama shouldn't be in the playoffs pictures. Period
They aren't, You were correct. They got pinched out by a team named the Mustangs, 😂🤣😆😆
@dabneyoffermein595 lol
I hope TN gets a home game after Saturday.
If they beat the bucks they go to Oregon
@@wattsinc.isn’t that game in the rose bowl?
Explain to me how can Tennessee get a home game? Texas or Georgia will get the home game .
@@thierrylepere9828no they won’t. If Georgia loses and has 3 losses Tennessee could jump them and take the home game because they’d be at a lower seed. This whole thing of who’s playing home games isn’t set. If Georgia losses by 14 or more there is a very real possibility it moves around. Not to mention if Oregon blows out Penn state, Ohio state would move up.
I’ve looked at brackets my whole life. Not one time has a 1 seed gone against a 8 or 9 rather than the 12 seed makes zero sense. The highest seed should get rewarded.
This is a modified 16 team bracket, where 13-16 are replaced by byes. In a 16 team bracket like March Madness, the 1 seed does get the winner of 8v9. If I’m the 1 seed, I would prefer this version to getting the winner of 5v12.
Bama is not Saban Alabama no matter how much the voters want to make it so.
My mistake 17 years, it felt like a lifetime for a fan or player for any other college program.
Kalen DeBoer and Steve Sarkisian! Two of the most overrated head coaches in college football. Sark has failed up his entire career!
bAMA IS STILL BAMA
Its all about money
I've been screaming this for weeks. Not saying bama is better than 13 14 15 but they bring way more money and traveling fans than them. It's not ok but it is what it is. CFP is now about money than anything it was that way last year with fsu
Yes sir!!
So what? It's going to BACKFIRE on them LONG TERM!
@@Braisedin - Because of
9th letter
4th letter
9th letter
15th letter
20th letter
sheep like you!
That's right! And that's why Bama is in, they own college football and there's nothing you can do about it.
ASU!!!! Just glad to be here
LFG 👹
As an Iowa state fan I hope you guys win so there’s at least 1 big 12 team in. I’m convinced if we win then we don’t make it and a Miami or ole miss slides in the 12 spot
@@walkercave3769I appreciate that but I think either one of us wins we will be in. That’s another top 25 matchup on whoever’s resume which should give us the edge over Miami.
They get an automatic bid if they win
And rewarded with a trip to the hills of Central PA where the average December temperature is between 15-25 degrees.
regarding 'controversy'. we're talking about the 12th best team in the country and that's potentially a 3 loss team. no 3 loss team should be complaining about not making it in. you lost 3 freaking games. what matters is all the teams that have a clear and strong argument for being the best team in the country are in so that any lingering questions left by a 4 team playoff are answered on the field.
This is it right here. You have 5 conference champions and all the undefeated and 1 loss teams in. Any 2 or 3 loss teams beyond that are basically field fillers.
100%. Just WIN MORE. If you argue you have a harder schedule then stop bragging about how much better you are than the smaller school with the weaker schedule. You have a harder schedule because you’re a bigger program and reasonably have a “better team”.
So you're saying you could schedule the twelve worst 12 teams in college football and win them all and get in when another team is eight and four. But wins five top ten teams should be out. Then that's total b. S . The truth. Is nobody wants to play bama
We're not complaining about not making it, we're complaining about those bastards making it when they deserve it even less than we do. Clearly a business decision by the committee.
@@richarddavis9029 Shoot Bama could do that and still not go undefeated....
If any other team not named Alabama lost to two 6-6 teams, they'd be laughed out of the playoffs so hard.
The second of all how’s Notre Dame even in the playoffs they don’t even have a conference, so why should they get an automatic bid when they don’t even play a championship game?
The problem, I have with it is the big 12 conference is being thrown under the jail, on one hand the committee is saying we value conference champions just not you big 12 , we don’t value you so much we are putting 11 other teams including Notre dame who don’t play a championship above you . Big 12 should at least get the next highest bid 5 . Coming from big ten fan .
Miami out for Bama is criminal. If your talking about a talent and entertainment standpoint Ward, Restrepo, Arroyo, come on! Disrespect for favoritism.
So his reasoning is to at Alabama is 6-1 against winning teams. That means they’re 3-2 against LOSING teams. Weak sauce.
Let’s get rid of people and their biases and make the rankings done via computers & artificial intelligence. This selection committee is an absolute joke.
The bama homers would cry death to the machines if they got left out. It would be hilarious watching a bunch of zoolanders trying to take down the computers.
If you base your computer algorithm as 1. Strength of schedule 2. Wins over top ranked teams. 3. Overall record. Then guess what? Bama still IN..That is ALL!!!
One big question we still don't have an answer to: what if one of the conference champ teams has an injury to a star player like with FSU last year? Can a team that's not in now move in with a high ranked team leaving with a loss and star player injury?
I thought the 12-team playoff was going to solve the committee's Bias toward Alabama (9-3), Miami (10-2), Iowa St (10-2), BYU (10-2), UNLV (10-2), Army (10-1), Memphis (10-2).
I’m wondering if Army was left out due to logistical issues with them not having the Week 16 bye.
IF SMU loses to Clemson then Alabama has to be the first team out. Theyre the lowest ranked at-large team. As long as its not a 50 point blowout for Clemson. If its a 2 score game or maybe a 3 score game where Clemson gets a late score to push it to a 3 score game I think you have to bump Alabama. They may have a good resume vs the top 25 to their credit. BUT, they have 2 very bad losses including a very ugly loss to an Oklahoma team that ended the season at .500.
I wouldn’t really have a problem with bama being in, even with that Oklahoma loss if it wasn’t such a disgusting loss. 24-3 loss in any other college football era would eliminate you from contention 99% of the time. It was such a bad loss it made Indiana’s loss to Ohio st seem like no big deal.
@@RobertReital Game ended up being settled on a last second field goal by Clemson.
SMU will get in
The play offs should include the teams in the top 25
With #1 getting a bye first round
SMU loses a nail biter to Clemson and Alabama is out !!!
YESSSSSS! This is what I'm praying for!
No the CPF will find a way to get them in 😂😂, they pay well 😂😂
The committee already said SMU can get bounced out lol
Alabama isn't moving.
hope so but i doubt it
The point of playoffs is to get the subjectivity/bias/corruption out. This system has failed. Go to 8 teams, 7 highest conference champions in the AP poll and highest independent. Eliminates the committee. Ensures the NATION is represented, and preserves the importance of conference championships. Minimizes subjectivity to just the traditional poll. No byes. Equal footing. Objective. True, fair playoff.
I’m Roll Tide for life but Alabama ain’t it this year. Get them boys outta there
If Jeanty goes off in playoffs, he should be Heisman
Why would these teams play the conference championship if they could be effected but the teams not playing can't.
By winning they can possibly increase their seeding
more cowards thinking
If your an Alabama fan, I just can't see how you would feel proud or be happy to see a team that doesn't deserve to be in playoffs get in. Any other SEC team lose games to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma, and they likely wouldn't even be ranked. Not only that, Oklahoma held Alabama to 3 points. Even when looking at schedules, Alabama barely made it past Georgia, lost to Tennessee, and they barely beat South Carolina. Sure, they beat Missouri as well, but South Carolina beat Missouri, Oklahoma, Vanderbilt, Clemson, and Texas A&M. They lost the head to head match and unfortunately had the bad officiating in the LSU game. The Gamecocks have proven to be a more competent team, and so has Miami. Miama hasn't let a team beat them by 21, especially an unranked team.
As an SMU fan, given the fact that we were disrespected for the entire season, it's win-and-we're-in mode. A loss means our season is over, plain and simple.
Smu almost lost to Nevada. Lost to BYU. With one lost they should get in if they beat Clemson. If not y'all should kick rocks
Shouldnt be.... This "committee" has repeatedly said it would not punish a team for playing a 13th game(Title game). SO.... if SMU does lose, then the committee shouldnt kick them out of the playoffs. If they do, then its hypocritical. I dont think SMU is that great, but you cant make it a BAD thing to play in a conference title game.
@JSum81 I understand what your saying. What I'm saying is strength of schedule and performance should be more important. Smu might be pretty good this year but if you put them against a team in the SEC. Which they haven't played all year they would have a hard time. We don't need tcu Georgia again
@@JSum81I think what should happen is if you’re in the playoffs and play in a conference championship you shouldn’t be penalized, but if you’re on the outside looking in and lose a conference championship I think you should stay out. Example, if Clemson loses they stay out, if they win, both SMU and Clemson get it
@@JSum81 I mean, they *should* punish them though. A loss is a loss. They're only saying that to make conferences refrain from getting rid of championship games. And they have not said it categorically. Basically, their stance now is that they'll pay attention and try not to penalize teams unless they lose horribly (which I still think is too lenient).
South Carolina should be in! Period!
ASAP
Bama more suspect than hunters pardon.
I'm sure sleepy joe had something to do with both in the end! 😆
Alabama does not deserve a spot. Period.
Ohio State hosting TN is a joke
Indiana should be hosting Tennessee.
no it’s not
You do realize ohio state’s two losses are a combined 4 points……….. what’s the joke? I didn’t get it……..
@@slibertas1996OSU smoke Indiana chill lol.
@@jimobrien691 These CFB playoff has everyone sounding ridiculous
The whole world is sick and tired of seeing their school getting knocked out of the playoffs because the NCAA wants to stick Alabama in there. Really sick of this. Florida State was undefeated and got screwed because the NCAA had to put Alabama in the playoffs. Figure that one out.
The quality games for SEC will drop. Why would I risk playing top quality teams if I love a close one and am forced out, when 4 teams in the top 12 have ZERO "quality wins?
This is the absolute worst playoff committee in the history of college football and none of those idiots should ever be near a place to judge for a college football playoff ever again.
What are you talking about the SEC has 4 teams in the field?
If you always suspected bias and bullsht, here is your proof. We can't have ONE YEAR that they don't get in? They lost three games, two to teams they should have handles easily. This is total crap. Hope they have to play a frozen game in the far north and get stuffed. This is really unfair to the teams that didn't get a chance.
I think the 5th conference champion should automatically be the 5th seed and get home field advantage. How can we give 4 champions a bye and home field and the 5th champion is playing on the road round 1?
Because how are you gonna give 5 byes in the bracket lol? It doesn't fit game by game.
Never mind I read wrong and can't see my responses.
Why not just do a Top 25 playoff, cut the season down to 11 games and let the Top 25 teams have a playoff spot
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What he should have said is that the teams that arent playing in conference championship games cant move up in the rankings cause they aren't playing butt they can move down because of the teams playing in those game could possibly jump and move teams down
The losses to Vandy and Oklahoma are worse than losses to Florida and Kentucky
How can there not be a difference in data points? It Texas beats Georgia, Georgia is no longer as good a win for teams like Alabama. If Clemson beats SMU, they're a demonstrably better win for South Carolina.
We will absolutely have data points.
Besides Oregon, Georgia has twice as many Top 25 wins as the top 4 teams………… combined lol. If Texas beats Georgia it won’t diminish Alabama’s win. Having said that I don’t think Alabama should be in the playoffs no matter what happens on Saturday.
@@Kingepticon But they are in either way. So conclude what you will about what you think...
@@br1rocks I disagree. If SMU loses a close game to Clemson I think that knocks Alabama out. If Boise loses a close game to UNLV I think Alabama is out. If both of those things happen then Alabama is definitely eliminated.
This year it seems to be strength of schedule and who you played! Alabama played 5 ranked teams throughout the season and ended 3-1 with LSU dropping out. Miami had 0 wins against ranked teams. They played no one throughout the season. Yes, Alabama has 2 ugly loses but no one else had their wins either.
Put South Carolina Or Vandys name on Bamas resume and ZERO shot they are in
South Carolina would be in if they would have beat Bama..
Didn't Alabama beat South Carolina?
@@BranDB023by 3 with Carolina’s star QB out for half the game.
@@iRepUrMax Bama beat them, that is all that matters SC was never going to jump Bama with the same record and a loss to Bama.
Why are people still acting like this is still college football? The name remains but it's the NIL league now. This is about money and who can make the most. Stop acting like Ole miss or Miami can bring in Alabama bank. Stop acting like this is real football anymore.
So then can UNLV beat BSU and both teams stay in? There would be 4 losses between them each beating each other once, BSU by a walk off field goal to Oregon and UNLV in over time to Syracuse
This game and the SMU Clemson game are the only games that matter this weekend. Could upend the whole playoff if BSU and SMU both lose. 🙏 I love chaos!
No for the G5 the conference champion comments dont apply. The G5 will always draw the short end in this and this was always a potential issue for the 12 team if you had two difference G5 conference champions its extremely likely that 1 G5 team would always be the max that could make it.
Combined quality ranking of Ole Miss and Alabama's losses:
1. Alabama loss to Tennessee
2. Ole Miss loss to LSU
3. Ole Miss loss to Florida
4. Alabama loss to Vandy
5. Ole Miss close loss to Kentucky
6. Alabama route by Oklahoma.
By this metric, I would argue that Ole Miss deserves it more by a HAIR
Listen, as a Bama fan I'm just as shocked as the rest of you.
So you're not shocked at all?
As an ohio state fan...ANY OTHER YEAR I can see Bama sec bais....but Bama is trash this year....you can't lose to ou and VANDY AND MAKE ANYONRS PLAYOFFS
@@aaronclay4665 Losing to a sorry unranked Michigan at home is not much better, Bama undefeated at home.
Roll tide natty here we come
@@wayvids1 Not even close.
I'm a Canes fan since 89, and I'm not happy about what happened, BUT, watch BAMA win the whole thing again.
Let’s talk about ND being ranked 4th with the worst loss of any ranked team. NIU at home, 1 ranked team on their entire schedule (army 😂) if only 1 loss is that meaningful why are SMU and Indiana behind ND? Much better single losses and I would argue more difficult schedules, unless someone actually believes Army is top 25. Army has 1 loss to ND, a better loss than ND has, they should be ranked higher than ND!
It's all fun and games until Bama runs the table to a 19th National Championship. 😎
@@TommyBombadillio Delusional
They've painted themselves into a corner by putting out a ranking this week. There shouldn't be a ranking after the final week of the regular season, just wait until after the conference championships.
I agree. They did the same thing last year--baked their expectations for the next week's results in the current week's rankings
Bama lost to the ENTIRE state of Tennessee and got absolutely got SPANKED by Oklahoma (6-5 team), hell they couldn't even make 1 touchdown against OK 😂 !! Bama lost to arguably two of the worst teams in the SEC...Vandy & Oklahoma...they don't deserve to be anywhere close to the Playoffs!!
The SMU thing seems pretty easy. They're ranked 8th. If they lose, Clemson takes their spot in the bracket, SMU moves over to the 8th spot and everyone below them slides down the bracket.
They lose they are out, it is that simple. They shouldn't get in even if they win, every SEC team besides MS State beats them by 30
Why shouldn't they get penalized for losing?
I don’t think so. I think Clemson moves to the #12 spot and BoiseSt moves to the #3 spot, the Big12 champion moves to #4 and SMU moves to #11 and knocks Alabama out.
@@riggsmarkham922if you’re knocked out for losing your Conference Championship then there’s no incentive for teams to try to even get to one. If SMU loses they should move down to #11 and Clemson should move to #12.
No one is sliding
Bammy lost 25% of its games to teams who lost a combined 40% of their games. I don't want to hear another effing word about this overrated team. And, 33% of Bammy's wins were against sublevel cupcakes (WKU, USF and Mercer) who had a 24-12 combined record. Putting Alabama in this playoff is a fg felony.
8:00 Alabama may have gotten the edge over Miami, Ole Miss, and SC, but they sure didn’t get the edge over Vandy or OU did they?
You must be a ACC fan
@@SouthernlawncareVery much an SEC enjoyer
@@besteffortint but they sure do have bigger wins and a better SOS than those 3 teams combined. Stay mad kiddo and keep crying
@ SOS 14 v 15 against SC but Carolina didn’t lose to unranked teams. Huff that hopium babygirl.
@@besteffortint Bama beat SC and SC lost to two teams Bama blew out...LSU and Missouri. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!!
No shot Alabama should be in vs Miami. NO SHOT
Who had a better record
They need a better explanation for Bama over Miami because by their top 25 record logic Ole Miss should be above Miami too.
Alabama can win 5 games next year and still make it 😂😂😂
I want the old 1v2 back. BCS bowl system. This is too confusing
So what’s the deal with ASU? If they lose against Iowa state ISU goes in?
Yes 5 highest ranked conference champs
Yes
Two years in a row Alabama has made the playoffs just because their name is Alabama
Tn should be hosting
Wholeheartedly disagree. Both teams have two loses. Both a loss to a good team and to a bad team. Both of OSU’s losses were better. A field goal loss to Oregon vs a 14 point loss to Georgia (who is worse than Oregon, obviously). Then a loss to Arkansas and Michigan each by a FG and both teams are almost similar. 8 and 9 is a correct ranking with OSU at 8. I don’t see the case for Tennessee
Tn didn’t lose at home as a 21 point favorite so I disagree with you
They need todo a nit tourney for the remaining teams who don’t get in and throw out the bowl game s. Thank you
Bama fan here … chill we’re going to put jalen out there alone and lose to ND by 40
Don’t forget ya’ll going to be playing ND in South Bend at the end of December🥶
@@TV99DE Who is ND? That trash school that Bama has destroyed over the last two decades in bowl games. That is who ND is and I might add that ND had the worse loss of the year and it is not even close.
@@maxgee8676 Alabama who?
1st two out should play each other
Same exact thing almost as last year with undefeated florida and georgia lmao
What are you talking about lol
Georgia got in over an undefeated FSU (not Florida) team if I remember correctly
@@Rooky2kAlabama got in over Florida state. Georgia got left out
Florida State and Georgia both missed the playoffs last year. Florida State was undefeated but their starting qb was injured so they did not receive a spot. Georgia was left out because they had a single loss to Alabama in the SEC championship.
Both teams played in a bowl game, where Georgia smoked Florida State despite being ranked lower and having a worse record. However, it’s worth noting that many seniors on Florida state opted not to play, so it wasn’t really a fair matchup.
Why does the 10, 11, and 12 seed have an easier path to the championship than the 9 seed?
A lot of EXTREME chaos could still happen according to what Warde Manuel said:
If #19 UNLV beats #10 Boise St, both of these teams will get in - forcing #11 Bama out in order to make room for #19 UNLV. This would also mean #15 Arizona St takes the 4 Seed and #19 UNLV will take the 12 Seed.
If #18 Clemson beats #8 SMU, both of these teams will get in - forcing #11 Bama out in order to make room for #18 Clemson. This would also mean that #10 Boise St moves to the 3 Seed, #15 Arizona St moves to the 4 Seed, and #18 Clemson moves to the 12 Seed.
If BOTH #10 Boise St & #8 SMU get upset - #11 Bama AND #10 Indiana will be forced out in order to make room for #19 UNLV & #18 Clemson. This would also mean that #15 Arizona St gets the 3 Seed, #18 Clemson gets the 4 Seed, and #19 UNLV gets the 12 Seed.
For a 12-team playoff, there is a world where three teams ranked outside the Top 12 not only make it into the playoff, but TWO of them actually get first-round byes. This would be BIZARRE.
You trust the committee? Lolol
The G5 will only ever get 1 team in. In the last 25 years only 1 season has ever had 2 G5 teams make a major post season. This includes MULTIPLE SEASONS of 2+ top 8 ranked G5 teams.
Its dumb, but if you want multiple G5 teams to make it both teams have to make it so insanely obvious that it would be ridiculous to keep them out and even then they still might get shafted.
@@MattBuild4 TCU and Boise in that late 2000s run both had would have been in multiple times under this format.
@@bigyodatheman Should have - 10000% yes. Would have? ehhh id lean towards no, based on the fact that outside of 2009 no two G5 teams ever made BCS bowls. Like 2004 had #5 MWC Utah, #7 CUSA Louisville and #9 WAC BSU - theoretically all these teams should make a 12 team, but only Utah made the BCS and 3 lower ranked P5 teams made BCS bowls over Louisville and BSU.
@@MattBuild4 Yeah, but this isn't the BCS, though. The eye test for both teams would help a lot with a committee with 12 spots, especially year over year when they kept up their winning. And whatever wins they get in the playoff over "stronger" teams would help for the next year.
"how mANy rAnKeD wiNs??" Kind of hard for any other conferences to get ranked wins when every single one of the toss up spots at the edge of the Top 25 goes to the SEC and B1G every single time. Why is Missouri ranked and Duke isn't? Why is Illinois ranked and Duke isn't? Why did it take 3 weeks of Syracuse sitting behind UNLV, who they beat on the road, for the Orange to finally get ranked? If a 7-3/8-3 SEC or B1G team had beaten UNLV on the road they would've been ranked several weeks ago. If 8-4 Louisville, who beat Clemson by 4x as many points as South Carolina did, had an SEC patch on their jersey they'd be in the Top 20. The SEC & B1G get gifted rankings that could easily go elsewhere and then act like their schedules are so brutal with all their "ranked" opponents.
People complained when it was a 4 team playoff they complain after they make it a 12 team playoff lets just be real people are going complain no matter what 😂
Here's the way the playoffs should work. If you're in the top 12 going into conference championship games and play in a conference championship game the winner gets a 1st round bye, loser gets to host a playoff game. Makes that part simple. Between Miami and Bama, even as a Bama fan, Miami should be in.
Notre Dame needs to join the ACC officially for football. It would help the SoS for the champion and give ND an automatic bye if they win it
They want more money , they have their own contract with nbc , so no
They have an annual cakewalk as an independent
@@Jleed989 tell that to Northern Illinois 🤣
@@gregl9175guess it just depends if they value $ or National championships more
@@phillyfrak2462the problem is the fan will always support them so yes $ is more important.
South Carolina deserves to be in more than Alabama. And I’m not a SC fan at all.
Bama making it is a joke they lost to Oklahoma