I mean I don’t like Bama either but that’s just blatantly false, SC and Ole Miss have three losses and were both in the convo for the last spot. Granted I woulda went with Ole Miss but that’s just me
No matter how screwed a team is to be deemed "13th" instead of "12th", it's still SOOOOOOO much better than arguing who is the "2nd" vs "3rd" best team (which until this year, used to decide a shot at the national championship). Maybe a team with 2 or 3 losses gets screwed, but it used to be UNDEFEATED teams were getting screwed. This is a way better system overall.
Strongly agree. This should be the discussion. 5-12 are lucky to even be invited. If you're crying about being 13th or 14th instead of 12th, you should be thankful to even be in the conversation with the new system.
Yeah after the FSU debate last year or the UCF debate a couple of years ago its good to see that an undefeated team would have a real shot. Especially since its the 5 highest ranked conference champions. Its not just the P4 champs plus the best G5 champion. There was a real chance that the Big 12 champion could have been left out if Army had managed to upset Notre Dame because if they did that and ended undefeated and won their conference championship I dont know how you could have justified leaving them out with a win on the road vs a top 10 team
@@gothard5 Yeah, you're correct, but it does give less ammo to them, and I'd bet we'll see a lot fewer bogus national championship claims after the playoffs.
@@RobertReital I'm very happy that they aren't doing the BCS style of "the champions of these specific conferences plus one more", it's made Boise State's path much more satisfying this year.
I agree but I can understand the argument for why they are in at the same time. They had a stronger schedule and played better vs the best teams in the country. That said I dont think they deserve to be in just because they played a harder schedule. I think wins and losses SHOULD matter but by putting them in the playoff the committee is saying that it doesnt matter who you lose tp and it only matters who you beat.
They also lost to an unranked Vandy team. Ohiostate lost 2 games by a combined 4 points but also won 2 top 5 match ups. Alabama gets a pass because of the fan base and it's BS.
3 loss alabama vs 3 loss georgia who played an extra game and lost in the championship game is not the same thing. Not an SEC fan but those aren't the same thing
@@BackyardAquatics-o2m Teams have ups and downs. You think the AL that faced GA was the same team that faced OK? Head to head matters, but the rest of the body of work does too. Tyler's right that an extra loss from the championship can't be considered as big a deal as the regular season loss. In the same way, the final top 12, after conference games are done but before the playoff starts, should be considered the final top 12. All but 1 of them are guaranteed to lose an extra game. Any of them could possibly rise to #1, but they cannot drop below the non-playoff line. That wouldn't make any sense.
And the quality of the losses are not even close GA lost to Bama by one touchdown and lost to a really good Ole Miss team. What’s interesting is how Ole Miss beat GA by more pints and later in the season yet the Bama Georgia win seems to count much more and I would argue Ole Miss also has better quality losses than Bama
I agree. I’d rather have undefeated or 1 loss teams that have ZERO top 25 wins get in like Texas, SMU, Boise State, Penn State, Notre Dame, Indiana and Arizona State. Kind of amazing that all these teams haven’t beaten a good team all season.
regarding 'controversy'. we're talking about the 12th best team in the country and that's potentially a 3 loss team. no 3 loss team should be complaining about not making it in. you lost 3 freaking games. what matters is all the teams that have a clear and strong argument for being the best team in the country are in so that any lingering questions left by a 4 team playoff are answered on the field.
This is it right here. You have 5 conference champions and all the undefeated and 1 loss teams in. Any 2 or 3 loss teams beyond that are basically field fillers.
100%. Just WIN MORE. If you argue you have a harder schedule then stop bragging about how much better you are than the smaller school with the weaker schedule. You have a harder schedule because you’re a bigger program and reasonably have a “better team”.
So you're saying you could schedule the twelve worst 12 teams in college football and win them all and get in when another team is eight and four. But wins five top ten teams should be out. Then that's total b. S . The truth. Is nobody wants to play bama
We're not complaining about not making it, we're complaining about those bastards making it when they deserve it even less than we do. Clearly a business decision by the committee.
If you switched their logo's and SC had the same exact resume that Bama has right now and vise versa, you wouldn't be crying if they put SC in, but big bad bama had to be the one with the best argument so now everyone is crying, so sad :(
" behind Bama" They are only "behind Bama" because Bama got a favorable ranking despite getting worked by a bad Oklahoma team. I do appreciate the honesty tho. I have read posts on Bama forums and overwhelming their fans don't think they should be in the playoffs. Miami should get in with their 2 losses, IMO. There D is bad but offense is really good. Syracuse is ranked and Georgia Tech loss not looking so bad after the Georgia game. I digress... South Carolina is playing much better football than Alabama ( Ole Miss is too if we're being honest) The 'eye test' criteria was supposed to mean something according to the committee. And before you reply " we beat SC head to head", I'll let you know you're talking to a Tennessee fan. We were getting left out for Bama just 2-3 weeks ago even tho we beat Bama head to head and were beating Georgia before some really questionable calls. Tennessee should have never lost to Arkansas. I own that, and the team should own that. That was a bad loss. If we played them again right now we'd beat them for sure. Having said that, I was fine with Tennessee being left out a couple weeks ago, but only because I felt Ole Miss and Texas Tech were playing better football at the time. At some point you just have to put your fandom to the side in favor of being an honest person.
@@chriskeith5742 if Ole miss had of made it I would be fine. Alabama had the head to head with South Carolina but i could still see the logic. All 3 have shown the capability to be elite if they put it together. Miami never has. Miami has done literally nothing to show they can play at a playoff level. They havent beaten a ranked team, they havent dominated their lesser opponents. The offense is good but they are giving up 40 to bad offenses. What have they done to show they can play with anyones best game?
@@davidlevins7646 Mami's lack of quality wins definitely hurts them if you compare them to another 2 loss team. They found ways to not get that 3rd loss, tho. Alabama didn't. And it's not just that Alabama lost 3 it's the 2 bad losses that stick out the most. Ole Miss's and Miami's losses were all close. Real close. Bama got boat raced by Oklahoma. Oklahoma is not good this year. Losing to them is one thing, getting boat raced is another. Add that to getting beat by Vandy and that is pretty ugly. Ole Miss boat raced SC. I am probably with you on them. Eye test and all they probably deserve that last spot. If Miami got in over them I guess I couldn't complain tho because Ole Miss should have never lost to KY ( especially at home) and they had their chance to beat Flordia at the end of the year and make it to an SEC championship. Miami also boat raced Flordia. So there's that.
So SOS matters only for wins but not for teams losses? Guy was tossing out top 25 wins in an alabama vs Miami scenario, but didn’t mention how bad any of their losses were…
ESPN owns the SEC - Why wouldn’t a quarter of the teams be SEC teams. They’ve rigged CFB for years for the SEC; especially for BAMA. It was once said in the beginning of the playoff format that you had to win your conference. Then, they moved the goal post on two different occasions to allow Bama to play for the title. It’s disgusting!
Actually you can make a very strong argument that more SEC teams should get in this year. Half of the playoff bracket doesn’t have a single quality win.
I've been screaming this for weeks. Not saying bama is better than 13 14 15 but they bring way more money and traveling fans than them. It's not ok but it is what it is. CFP is now about money than anything it was that way last year with fsu
Yeah I think the committee knows that if they punish SMU for losing their championship game then teams next season will opt out of the conference championship to keep their spot in the playoffs.
@@evangelionl0vr857 If SMU is any good, they are NOT losing that game. IF they lose it, they should get trimmed out of the playoffs like the fat of a Christmas Ham.
Sorry the conferences are the way they are, it’s a problem. Yeah it sucks for them but these acc teams have zero ranked wins, it creates an inability to compare these teams
This was the plan all along. They were always going to do whatever it took to get Alabama in. They'd expand the playoffs to 88 teams if Alabama was ranked 88.
As an Iowa state fan I hope you guys win so there’s at least 1 big 12 team in. I’m convinced if we win then we don’t make it and a Miami or ole miss slides in the 12 spot
@@walkercave3769I appreciate that but I think either one of us wins we will be in. That’s another top 25 matchup on whoever’s resume which should give us the edge over Miami.
How can there not be a difference in data points? It Texas beats Georgia, Georgia is no longer as good a win for teams like Alabama. If Clemson beats SMU, they're a demonstrably better win for South Carolina. We will absolutely have data points.
Besides Oregon, Georgia has twice as many Top 25 wins as the top 4 teams………… combined lol. If Texas beats Georgia it won’t diminish Alabama’s win. Having said that I don’t think Alabama should be in the playoffs no matter what happens on Saturday.
For everyone rightly upset about Bama being in - them getting boosted out of the playoffs with a loss to Notre Dame is far more funnier & satisfying then them not being in and having their season over.
@@IlIlIIllllI yeah that would be wild since they lost to the worst team in the SEC and could only score a field goal against OU. But it would definitely prove their doubters wrong. I just believe they need to realize this ain’t Saban’s Alabama anymore. They got spoiled like New England and now look at the Patriots…
@@MsChrishanson no bama scored a touchdown against Oklahoma. bama would smack Oklahoma on a neutral field. every team has bad games. Prove their doubters wrong? youre a doubter. all of cfb fans are. pure jealously over the greatest college football program of all time lmao
Two of Alabamas losses are bad losses, if they had one bad loss and two to ranked opponents sure but loosing to Vanderbilt the joke of the SEC and OU is irredeemable
Vandy wasn't the joke this year. They went 8 -4 they beat some good teams and gave Texas all they wanted. Florida and Miss st are the jokes this year. So Bama had 1 bad loss. Everybody just keeps repeating that vandy is sub .500 which is flat out, NOT TRUE.
IF SMU loses to Clemson then Alabama has to be the first team out. Theyre the lowest ranked at-large team. As long as its not a 50 point blowout for Clemson. If its a 2 score game or maybe a 3 score game where Clemson gets a late score to push it to a 3 score game I think you have to bump Alabama. They may have a good resume vs the top 25 to their credit. BUT, they have 2 very bad losses including a very ugly loss to an Oklahoma team that ended the season at .500.
I wouldn’t really have a problem with bama being in, even with that Oklahoma loss if it wasn’t such a disgusting loss. 24-3 loss in any other college football era would eliminate you from contention 99% of the time. It was such a bad loss it made Indiana’s loss to Ohio st seem like no big deal.
A lot of EXTREME chaos could still happen according to what Warde Manuel said: If #19 UNLV beats #10 Boise St, both of these teams will get in - forcing #11 Bama out in order to make room for #19 UNLV. This would also mean #15 Arizona St takes the 4 Seed and #19 UNLV will take the 12 Seed. If #18 Clemson beats #8 SMU, both of these teams will get in - forcing #11 Bama out in order to make room for #18 Clemson. This would also mean that #10 Boise St moves to the 3 Seed, #15 Arizona St moves to the 4 Seed, and #18 Clemson moves to the 12 Seed. If BOTH #10 Boise St & #8 SMU get upset - #11 Bama AND #10 Indiana will be forced out in order to make room for #19 UNLV & #18 Clemson. This would also mean that #15 Arizona St gets the 3 Seed, #18 Clemson gets the 4 Seed, and #19 UNLV gets the 12 Seed. For a 12-team playoff, there is a world where three teams ranked outside the Top 12 not only make it into the playoff, but TWO of them actually get first-round byes. This would be BIZARRE.
The G5 will only ever get 1 team in. In the last 25 years only 1 season has ever had 2 G5 teams make a major post season. This includes MULTIPLE SEASONS of 2+ top 8 ranked G5 teams. Its dumb, but if you want multiple G5 teams to make it both teams have to make it so insanely obvious that it would be ridiculous to keep them out and even then they still might get shafted.
@@bigyodatheman Should have - 10000% yes. Would have? ehhh id lean towards no, based on the fact that outside of 2009 no two G5 teams ever made BCS bowls. Like 2004 had #5 MWC Utah, #7 CUSA Louisville and #9 WAC BSU - theoretically all these teams should make a 12 team, but only Utah made the BCS and 3 lower ranked P5 teams made BCS bowls over Louisville and BSU.
@@MattBuild4 Yeah, but this isn't the BCS, though. The eye test for both teams would help a lot with a committee with 12 spots, especially year over year when they kept up their winning. And whatever wins they get in the playoff over "stronger" teams would help for the next year.
The quality games for SEC will drop. Why would I risk playing top quality teams if I love a close one and am forced out, when 4 teams in the top 12 have ZERO "quality wins? This is the absolute worst playoff committee in the history of college football and none of those idiots should ever be near a place to judge for a college football playoff ever again.
As an SMU fan, given the fact that we were disrespected for the entire season, it's win-and-we're-in mode. A loss means our season is over, plain and simple.
Shouldnt be.... This "committee" has repeatedly said it would not punish a team for playing a 13th game(Title game). SO.... if SMU does lose, then the committee shouldnt kick them out of the playoffs. If they do, then its hypocritical. I dont think SMU is that great, but you cant make it a BAD thing to play in a conference title game.
@JSum81 I understand what your saying. What I'm saying is strength of schedule and performance should be more important. Smu might be pretty good this year but if you put them against a team in the SEC. Which they haven't played all year they would have a hard time. We don't need tcu Georgia again
@@JSum81I think what should happen is if you’re in the playoffs and play in a conference championship you shouldn’t be penalized, but if you’re on the outside looking in and lose a conference championship I think you should stay out. Example, if Clemson loses they stay out, if they win, both SMU and Clemson get it
@@JSum81 I mean, they *should* punish them though. A loss is a loss. They're only saying that to make conferences refrain from getting rid of championship games. And they have not said it categorically. Basically, their stance now is that they'll pay attention and try not to penalize teams unless they lose horribly (which I still think is too lenient).
One big question we still don't have an answer to: what if one of the conference champ teams has an injury to a star player like with FSU last year? Can a team that's not in now move in with a high ranked team leaving with a loss and star player injury?
So then can UNLV beat BSU and both teams stay in? There would be 4 losses between them each beating each other once, BSU by a walk off field goal to Oregon and UNLV in over time to Syracuse
This game and the SMU Clemson game are the only games that matter this weekend. Could upend the whole playoff if BSU and SMU both lose. 🙏 I love chaos!
No for the G5 the conference champion comments dont apply. The G5 will always draw the short end in this and this was always a potential issue for the 12 team if you had two difference G5 conference champions its extremely likely that 1 G5 team would always be the max that could make it.
They've painted themselves into a corner by putting out a ranking this week. There shouldn't be a ranking after the final week of the regular season, just wait until after the conference championships.
What he should have said is that the teams that arent playing in conference championship games cant move up in the rankings cause they aren't playing butt they can move down because of the teams playing in those game could possibly jump and move teams down
5 hole is not necessarily the best spot because the number 12 is the 5th conference champion so normally I would think the 6 spot would be the best spot.
I think the 5th conference champion should automatically be the 5th seed and get home field advantage. How can we give 4 champions a bye and home field and the 5th champion is playing on the road round 1?
There defense. There offense was spectacular and number 1 ranked. Also you thought Georgia was a natty contender struggling with a fcs school a few weeks ago or 8 overtimes versus Georgia tech or struggling with Florida who Miami blew out week 1?
I don’t get it why the committee is so in love with Alabama. They literally couldn’t score a touchdown against a bad Oklahoma team, and the fact they lost to Vanderbilt is puzzling to me. I would even put South Carolina in over Alabama with the way they finished out against Clemson. Alabama doesn’t belong in this year’s playoffs period.
The SMU thing seems pretty easy. They're ranked 8th. If they lose, Clemson takes their spot in the bracket, SMU moves over to the 8th spot and everyone below them slides down the bracket.
I don’t think so. I think Clemson moves to the #12 spot and BoiseSt moves to the #3 spot, the Big12 champion moves to #4 and SMU moves to #11 and knocks Alabama out.
@@riggsmarkham922if you’re knocked out for losing your Conference Championship then there’s no incentive for teams to try to even get to one. If SMU loses they should move down to #11 and Clemson should move to #12.
I get that Ole Miss had a couple of bad losses, but it doesn't seem to matter much that they DESTROYED South Carolina and DESTROYED Georgia. Nobody beats Georgia like they did.
Ole Miss's losses weren't as bad as bamas losses. Ole miss lost by 3 to a team with a losing record, and then a combined 10 to 2 teams with winning records. Bama lost by 5 to vandy (6-6) and 21 to OK (6-6).
What I am confused about is... If Clemson wins, they are instantly in with a bye (which is dumb, but is what it is). Where would SMU go? And if we are adding Clemson, who is out? Oh, and what happens if Iowa St beats Arizona State, or UNLV beats Boise?
The committee does need to specify that whole scenario that if SMU loses to Clemson than Clemson is in and SMU goes to their pre match ranking, which would put them ahead of Alabama and knock Bama out. I don’t know what specific kind of jargon they have to use but they aren’t being as specific as they can be one way or the other
@ that’s fine if they make that clear. Although I would argue SMU is being punished for being in the championship given they would only have 2 loses but at las they would both be to ranked opponents (making it 0-2) so it is what it is.
Florida State and Georgia both missed the playoffs last year. Florida State was undefeated but their starting qb was injured so they did not receive a spot. Georgia was left out because they had a single loss to Alabama in the SEC championship. Both teams played in a bowl game, where Georgia smoked Florida State despite being ranked lower and having a worse record. However, it’s worth noting that many seniors on Florida state opted not to play, so it wasn’t really a fair matchup.
I agree with Pat that if Clemson beats SMU in the ACC Championship game, that SMU will drop less than 10 spots (barring a 40 point blow out). Clemson gets the automatic bid, SMU stays in, and Bama is out.
Let’s get rid of people and their biases and make the rankings done via computers & artificial intelligence. This selection committee is an absolute joke.
There are tons and tons of computer ranking systems for football. Sagarin makes a well-known one. (Alabama ranks higher in these than in the polls). Also, ESPN has FPI and a SOR ranking.
Tony just isn’t comprehending what was said. SMU can lose by 30 and they’re still in. They’ll just be one of the lower seeds. They’re not going to remove any of these teams. Only thing that can happen is the 12 team being shuffled
Ole Miss' losses were by a combined score of 13, which is a touchdown and two-point conversion less than the amount by which Bama lost to Oklahoma (all of two weeks ago). Nevermind that Ole Miss' losses are rated higher than Bama's
My opinion. No 3 loss team should be in. The only exception would be if Georgia loses to Texas. Miami should be in over Bama. Or maybe even a different 1 or 2 loss team.
I don't care how good programs have been historically, the CFP is about current performance in the current year. If you put a 3 loss team in the CFP it delegitimizes the process; especially when Bama got Slamma'd by OU, they were dominated. I would say that for any 'historically' solid program.
I'm just so so so sick of the SEC bias in the playoff/bowl rankings process. These bowl/ranking officials are killing college football for me! Yeah I'm one of them pissed off people! I like Alabama but there's no way in hell they should be in the playoffs over Miami...!!
11:45 Too late on that bro! Georgia was undefeated last season, lost in the SEC Championship game to Bama by 3 points, 27-24 if my memory serves, and got booted from number 1 overall to out of the playoff. So the precedent is already there unfortunately. (Yes I know it was 4 team) And due to that decision the dominoes were set in motion. Georgia was then forced into the unfortunate situation where they had to make an example out of FSU and brutally take their soul on National Television and we are still seeing the aftermath of that tragedy to this very day… RIP Florida State 🪦
If any other team in the SEC had the same losses as Bama there wouldn’t even be a convo for them. Bring the computers back
Hate to tell you this but the computers love Alabama too.
Not true. Ole Miss is in the conversation
It's about the fan base, history & viewership. They tend to show up when it counts and people watch.
I mean I don’t like Bama either but that’s just blatantly false, SC and Ole Miss have three losses and were both in the convo for the last spot. Granted I woulda went with Ole Miss but that’s just me
I mean they have the best wins in the sec as well
The comittee dont give a piss bout nothin but the Tide 🤣
Roll tide
Reading this in the voice of Druski's old buddy that smokes too much 😂😂
DONT GIVE A PISS BOUT NUTHIN BUT THE TIDE!
Best timed comment I’ve ever seen
Rumor is Bama will move up to 8th if Clemson wins 😂😂😂
No matter how screwed a team is to be deemed "13th" instead of "12th", it's still SOOOOOOO much better than arguing who is the "2nd" vs "3rd" best team (which until this year, used to decide a shot at the national championship). Maybe a team with 2 or 3 losses gets screwed, but it used to be UNDEFEATED teams were getting screwed. This is a way better system overall.
Strongly agree. This should be the discussion. 5-12 are lucky to even be invited. If you're crying about being 13th or 14th instead of 12th, you should be thankful to even be in the conversation with the new system.
Yeah after the FSU debate last year or the UCF debate a couple of years ago its good to see that an undefeated team would have a real shot. Especially since its the 5 highest ranked conference champions. Its not just the P4 champs plus the best G5 champion. There was a real chance that the Big 12 champion could have been left out if Army had managed to upset Notre Dame because if they did that and ended undefeated and won their conference championship I dont know how you could have justified leaving them out with a win on the road vs a top 10 team
@@RobertReital both of those teams absolutely deserved to get left out. lost all respect for UCF when they claimed a fake national championship.
@@gothard5 Yeah, you're correct, but it does give less ammo to them, and I'd bet we'll see a lot fewer bogus national championship claims after the playoffs.
@@RobertReital I'm very happy that they aren't doing the BCS style of "the champions of these specific conferences plus one more", it's made Boise State's path much more satisfying this year.
Alabama got beat by an unranked OU team by 21 points. They were held to 3 points. They shouldn't be anywhere near the playoffs
I agree
I agree but I can understand the argument for why they are in at the same time. They had a stronger schedule and played better vs the best teams in the country. That said I dont think they deserve to be in just because they played a harder schedule. I think wins and losses SHOULD matter but by putting them in the playoff the committee is saying that it doesnt matter who you lose tp and it only matters who you beat.
They also lost to an unranked Vandy team. Ohiostate lost 2 games by a combined 4 points but also won 2 top 5 match ups. Alabama gets a pass because of the fan base and it's BS.
Go put another little league sticker on your helmet and maybe youll make it next year@anthonycade651
Bama scored a touchdown that could have been a huge spark and momentum change and the refs said ehhhh let’s just call that back for no reason
What happened to the emphasis on the "eye test"? I gouged my eyes out watchin Alabama v OU
What you did when they played Georgia and the 8 other games they won
$ and elitism that govern college football is what happened. all they needed was a excuse to stick alabama in and miami losing gave it to them.
I concur. I've wa5ched them pretty closely, and they do not look very good, even in some of the wins that they have
@@wozzy334Georgia is grossly overrated. Did you watch the GT game? Have you watched Carson beck at all this year? He STINKS.
Lmao
Alabama could have 7 losses, and the committee would be like, "Well you gotta understand, their 7 losses were very high quality losses, etc etc).
And then none of those teams would be in the playoff picture 😂
They were quality losses
They played ranked teams unlike. Miami and some others who didn't
No no, this time it was about quality wins. The losses were garbage lol
Well get over it
Alabama could get in with a .500 record
Alabama doesn't even have to play a down to get in.
Are you crying!? They just told you, SOS counts. !
@@Redstone256 Miami is way better so STFU 😂 the sec is way over rated this year
Feels good to be a bama fan don’t it.
@@abe5296 Miami is TRASH .. with their 59th ranked SOS.. Out here playing nobody and then getting on the internet to talk big! GTFOH
The Bama Favoritism is beyond cringe at this point
Ya'll are going to mess around and light a fire under Bama's ace and they go to at least the semifinals.
Bama lost to 2 6-6 teams. TGEY SHOULD NOT BE IN. BOTTOM LINE.
Your opinion doesn't matter princess....
They not getting in with teams with conference championships
3 loss alabama vs 3 loss georgia who played an extra game and lost in the championship game is not the same thing. Not an SEC fan but those aren't the same thing
they already played. bama won.
@@BackyardAquatics-o2m But, that point is to be ignored.🙄
@@BackyardAquatics-o2m Teams have ups and downs. You think the AL that faced GA was the same team that faced OK? Head to head matters, but the rest of the body of work does too. Tyler's right that an extra loss from the championship can't be considered as big a deal as the regular season loss. In the same way, the final top 12, after conference games are done but before the playoff starts, should be considered the final top 12. All but 1 of them are guaranteed to lose an extra game. Any of them could possibly rise to #1, but they cannot drop below the non-playoff line. That wouldn't make any sense.
And the quality of the losses are not even close GA lost to Bama by one touchdown and lost to a really good Ole Miss team. What’s interesting is how Ole Miss beat GA by more pints and later in the season yet the Bama Georgia win seems to count much more and I would argue Ole Miss also has better quality losses than Bama
@@BackyardAquatics-o2msee you Saturday
No 3 loss teams. I'd rather see army
Honestly yeah
This is a terrible take lol
@@austinthornellI agree I would rather see army
I agree. I’d rather have undefeated or 1 loss teams that have ZERO top 25 wins get in like Texas, SMU, Boise State, Penn State, Notre Dame, Indiana and Arizona State. Kind of amazing that all these teams haven’t beaten a good team all season.
@@austinthornellgo watch the NFL bozo
I thought once Saban retired that the committee would stop 🌰 hugging Alabama.
You thought wrong...
I hope TN gets a home game after Saturday.
If they beat the bucks they go to Oregon
@@wattsinc.isn’t that game in the rose bowl?
regarding 'controversy'. we're talking about the 12th best team in the country and that's potentially a 3 loss team. no 3 loss team should be complaining about not making it in. you lost 3 freaking games. what matters is all the teams that have a clear and strong argument for being the best team in the country are in so that any lingering questions left by a 4 team playoff are answered on the field.
This is it right here. You have 5 conference champions and all the undefeated and 1 loss teams in. Any 2 or 3 loss teams beyond that are basically field fillers.
100%. Just WIN MORE. If you argue you have a harder schedule then stop bragging about how much better you are than the smaller school with the weaker schedule. You have a harder schedule because you’re a bigger program and reasonably have a “better team”.
So you're saying you could schedule the twelve worst 12 teams in college football and win them all and get in when another team is eight and four. But wins five top ten teams should be out. Then that's total b. S . The truth. Is nobody wants to play bama
We're not complaining about not making it, we're complaining about those bastards making it when they deserve it even less than we do. Clearly a business decision by the committee.
@@richarddavis9029 Shoot Bama could do that and still not go undefeated....
Bama being in over South Carolina is criminal
Beat South Carolina and has more top 25 wins
Why. They beat them
If you switched their logo's and SC had the same exact resume that Bama has right now and vise versa, you wouldn't be crying if they put SC in, but big bad bama had to be the one with the best argument so now everyone is crying, so sad :(
Bama beat them lmao
Bama wouldn't beat SC now and you know it..
Alabama doesn't deserve to be in.
As a Bama fan i agree. Only 8 teams actually “deserve” it tho. No one behind Bama deserves it more tho
" behind Bama"
They are only "behind Bama" because Bama got a favorable ranking despite getting worked by a bad Oklahoma team.
I do appreciate the honesty tho. I have read posts on Bama forums and overwhelming their fans don't think they should be in the playoffs.
Miami should get in with their 2 losses, IMO.
There D is bad but offense is really good. Syracuse is ranked and Georgia Tech loss not looking so bad after the Georgia game.
I digress...
South Carolina is playing much better football than Alabama ( Ole Miss is too if we're being honest)
The 'eye test' criteria was supposed to mean something according to the committee.
And before you reply " we beat SC head to head", I'll let you know you're talking to a Tennessee fan.
We were getting left out for Bama just 2-3 weeks ago even tho we beat Bama head to head and were beating Georgia before some really questionable calls.
Tennessee should have never lost to Arkansas. I own that, and the team should own that. That was a bad loss.
If we played them again right now we'd beat them for sure. Having said that, I was fine with Tennessee being left out a couple weeks ago, but only because I felt Ole Miss and Texas Tech were playing better football at the time.
At some point you just have to put your fandom to the side in favor of being an honest person.
@@chriskeith5742 if Ole miss had of made it I would be fine. Alabama had the head to head with South Carolina but i could still see the logic. All 3 have shown the capability to be elite if they put it together. Miami never has. Miami has done literally nothing to show they can play at a playoff level. They havent beaten a ranked team, they havent dominated their lesser opponents. The offense is good but they are giving up 40 to bad offenses. What have they done to show they can play with anyones best game?
@@davidlevins7646 Mami's lack of quality wins definitely hurts them if you compare them to another 2 loss team.
They found ways to not get that 3rd loss, tho. Alabama didn't.
And it's not just that Alabama lost 3 it's the 2 bad losses that stick out the most.
Ole Miss's and Miami's losses were all close. Real close. Bama got boat raced by Oklahoma. Oklahoma is not good this year. Losing to them is one thing, getting boat raced is another. Add that to getting beat by Vandy and that is pretty ugly.
Ole Miss boat raced SC. I am probably with you on them. Eye test and all they probably deserve that last spot.
If Miami got in over them I guess I couldn't complain tho because Ole Miss should have never lost to KY ( especially at home) and they had their chance to beat Flordia at the end of the year and make it to an SEC championship.
Miami also boat raced Flordia. So there's that.
Nope
So SOS matters only for wins but not for teams losses? Guy was tossing out top 25 wins in an alabama vs Miami scenario, but didn’t mention how bad any of their losses were…
because Miami doesn't have top 25 wins.
@@jamareycarter5550 Louisville was ranked
ESPN owns the SEC - Why wouldn’t a quarter of the teams be SEC teams. They’ve rigged CFB for years for the SEC; especially for BAMA. It was once said in the beginning of the playoff format that you had to win your conference. Then, they moved the goal post on two different occasions to allow Bama to play for the title. It’s disgusting!
4 of 12 is 33.3%
Actually you can make a very strong argument that more SEC teams should get in this year. Half of the playoff bracket doesn’t have a single quality win.
@dawnshults7992 Nope, run those numbers back lol
Its all about money
I've been screaming this for weeks. Not saying bama is better than 13 14 15 but they bring way more money and traveling fans than them. It's not ok but it is what it is. CFP is now about money than anything it was that way last year with fsu
Yes sir!!
So what? It's going to BACKFIRE on them LONG TERM!
@@Braisedin - Because of
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12:57 SMU HAS to bump Alabama out if Clemson wins. The whole thing is actual BS if SMU gets knocked out for making it to their championship game.
Yeah I think the committee knows that if they punish SMU for losing their championship game then teams next season will opt out of the conference championship to keep their spot in the playoffs.
Smu has played nobody -
@bama7945 doesn't matter, they are playing by the Same rules as everyone and it's screwing them to follow the rules
@@evangelionl0vr857 If SMU is any good, they are NOT losing that game. IF they lose it, they should get trimmed out of the playoffs like the fat of a Christmas Ham.
Sorry the conferences are the way they are, it’s a problem. Yeah it sucks for them but these acc teams have zero ranked wins, it creates an inability to compare these teams
This was the plan all along. They were always going to do whatever it took to get Alabama in. They'd expand the playoffs to 88 teams if Alabama was ranked 88.
ASU!!!! Just glad to be here
LFG 👹
As an Iowa state fan I hope you guys win so there’s at least 1 big 12 team in. I’m convinced if we win then we don’t make it and a Miami or ole miss slides in the 12 spot
@@walkercave3769I appreciate that but I think either one of us wins we will be in. That’s another top 25 matchup on whoever’s resume which should give us the edge over Miami.
They get an automatic bid if they win
How can there not be a difference in data points? It Texas beats Georgia, Georgia is no longer as good a win for teams like Alabama. If Clemson beats SMU, they're a demonstrably better win for South Carolina.
We will absolutely have data points.
Besides Oregon, Georgia has twice as many Top 25 wins as the top 4 teams………… combined lol. If Texas beats Georgia it won’t diminish Alabama’s win. Having said that I don’t think Alabama should be in the playoffs no matter what happens on Saturday.
SMU loses a nail biter to Clemson and Alabama is out !!!
YESSSSSS! This is what I'm praying for!
No the CPF will find a way to get them in 😂😂, they pay well 😂😂
The committee already said SMU can get bounced out lol
Alabama isn't moving.
hope so but i doubt it
Ohio State hosting TN is a joke
Indiana should be hosting Tennessee.
no it’s not
You do realize ohio state’s two losses are a combined 4 points……….. what’s the joke? I didn’t get it……..
@@slibertas1996OSU smoke Indiana chill lol.
@@jimobrien691 These CFB playoff has everyone sounding ridiculous
For everyone rightly upset about Bama being in - them getting boosted out of the playoffs with a loss to Notre Dame is far more funnier & satisfying then them not being in and having their season over.
Dude if they played ND they’d get destroyed lol. That defense is legit and would make Jalen cry.
what would be even more hilarious if they hoisted that trophy at the end of it. not saying bama will win but that would be so sweet
@@IlIlIIllllI yeah that would be wild since they lost to the worst team in the SEC and could only score a field goal against OU. But it would definitely prove their doubters wrong.
I just believe they need to realize this ain’t Saban’s Alabama anymore. They got spoiled like New England and now look at the Patriots…
@@MsChrishanson no bama scored a touchdown against Oklahoma. bama would smack Oklahoma on a neutral field. every team has bad games. Prove their doubters wrong? youre a doubter. all of cfb fans are. pure jealously over the greatest college football program of all time lmao
@@MsChrishanson what about Bear Bryant?
Two of Alabamas losses are bad losses, if they had one bad loss and two to ranked opponents sure but loosing to Vanderbilt the joke of the SEC and OU is irredeemable
Vandy wasn't the joke this year. They went 8 -4 they beat some good teams and gave Texas all they wanted. Florida and Miss st are the jokes this year. So Bama had 1 bad loss. Everybody just keeps repeating that vandy is sub .500 which is flat out, NOT TRUE.
@@nickbowling8506Florida went 7-5, with the 2nd hardest schedule in college football. How are they the joke of the sec?
And the losses were bad! They were dog walked in both games. Vandy and OU controlled the entire game
@ they’re not good, yes they had some solid moments but let’s stop pretending like they are even close to being a ranked team
They lost 3 times
IF SMU loses to Clemson then Alabama has to be the first team out. Theyre the lowest ranked at-large team. As long as its not a 50 point blowout for Clemson. If its a 2 score game or maybe a 3 score game where Clemson gets a late score to push it to a 3 score game I think you have to bump Alabama. They may have a good resume vs the top 25 to their credit. BUT, they have 2 very bad losses including a very ugly loss to an Oklahoma team that ended the season at .500.
I wouldn’t really have a problem with bama being in, even with that Oklahoma loss if it wasn’t such a disgusting loss. 24-3 loss in any other college football era would eliminate you from contention 99% of the time. It was such a bad loss it made Indiana’s loss to Ohio st seem like no big deal.
A lot of EXTREME chaos could still happen according to what Warde Manuel said:
If #19 UNLV beats #10 Boise St, both of these teams will get in - forcing #11 Bama out in order to make room for #19 UNLV. This would also mean #15 Arizona St takes the 4 Seed and #19 UNLV will take the 12 Seed.
If #18 Clemson beats #8 SMU, both of these teams will get in - forcing #11 Bama out in order to make room for #18 Clemson. This would also mean that #10 Boise St moves to the 3 Seed, #15 Arizona St moves to the 4 Seed, and #18 Clemson moves to the 12 Seed.
If BOTH #10 Boise St & #8 SMU get upset - #11 Bama AND #10 Indiana will be forced out in order to make room for #19 UNLV & #18 Clemson. This would also mean that #15 Arizona St gets the 3 Seed, #18 Clemson gets the 4 Seed, and #19 UNLV gets the 12 Seed.
For a 12-team playoff, there is a world where three teams ranked outside the Top 12 not only make it into the playoff, but TWO of them actually get first-round byes. This would be BIZARRE.
You trust the committee? Lolol
The G5 will only ever get 1 team in. In the last 25 years only 1 season has ever had 2 G5 teams make a major post season. This includes MULTIPLE SEASONS of 2+ top 8 ranked G5 teams.
Its dumb, but if you want multiple G5 teams to make it both teams have to make it so insanely obvious that it would be ridiculous to keep them out and even then they still might get shafted.
@@MattBuild4 TCU and Boise in that late 2000s run both had would have been in multiple times under this format.
@@bigyodatheman Should have - 10000% yes. Would have? ehhh id lean towards no, based on the fact that outside of 2009 no two G5 teams ever made BCS bowls. Like 2004 had #5 MWC Utah, #7 CUSA Louisville and #9 WAC BSU - theoretically all these teams should make a 12 team, but only Utah made the BCS and 3 lower ranked P5 teams made BCS bowls over Louisville and BSU.
@@MattBuild4 Yeah, but this isn't the BCS, though. The eye test for both teams would help a lot with a committee with 12 spots, especially year over year when they kept up their winning. And whatever wins they get in the playoff over "stronger" teams would help for the next year.
Bama is not Saban Alabama no matter how much the voters want to make it so.
My mistake 17 years, it felt like a lifetime for a fan or player for any other college program.
Kalen DeBoer and Steve Sarkisian! Two of the most overrated head coaches in college football. Sark has failed up his entire career!
The quality games for SEC will drop. Why would I risk playing top quality teams if I love a close one and am forced out, when 4 teams in the top 12 have ZERO "quality wins?
This is the absolute worst playoff committee in the history of college football and none of those idiots should ever be near a place to judge for a college football playoff ever again.
What are you talking about the SEC has 4 teams in the field?
why is no one mentioning the Alabama loss to ou that was an embarrassment that happened 2 weeks ago and no one’s taking abt it
Bc it never happened, they also never lost to Vanderbilt apparently lol those 2 losses are knocking off any other team in America
As an SMU fan, given the fact that we were disrespected for the entire season, it's win-and-we're-in mode. A loss means our season is over, plain and simple.
Smu almost lost to Nevada. Lost to BYU. With one lost they should get in if they beat Clemson. If not y'all should kick rocks
Shouldnt be.... This "committee" has repeatedly said it would not punish a team for playing a 13th game(Title game). SO.... if SMU does lose, then the committee shouldnt kick them out of the playoffs. If they do, then its hypocritical. I dont think SMU is that great, but you cant make it a BAD thing to play in a conference title game.
@JSum81 I understand what your saying. What I'm saying is strength of schedule and performance should be more important. Smu might be pretty good this year but if you put them against a team in the SEC. Which they haven't played all year they would have a hard time. We don't need tcu Georgia again
@@JSum81I think what should happen is if you’re in the playoffs and play in a conference championship you shouldn’t be penalized, but if you’re on the outside looking in and lose a conference championship I think you should stay out. Example, if Clemson loses they stay out, if they win, both SMU and Clemson get it
@@JSum81 I mean, they *should* punish them though. A loss is a loss. They're only saying that to make conferences refrain from getting rid of championship games. And they have not said it categorically. Basically, their stance now is that they'll pay attention and try not to penalize teams unless they lose horribly (which I still think is too lenient).
One big question we still don't have an answer to: what if one of the conference champ teams has an injury to a star player like with FSU last year? Can a team that's not in now move in with a high ranked team leaving with a loss and star player injury?
So then can UNLV beat BSU and both teams stay in? There would be 4 losses between them each beating each other once, BSU by a walk off field goal to Oregon and UNLV in over time to Syracuse
This game and the SMU Clemson game are the only games that matter this weekend. Could upend the whole playoff if BSU and SMU both lose. 🙏 I love chaos!
No for the G5 the conference champion comments dont apply. The G5 will always draw the short end in this and this was always a potential issue for the 12 team if you had two difference G5 conference champions its extremely likely that 1 G5 team would always be the max that could make it.
Listen, as a Bama fan I'm just as shocked as the rest of you.
So you're not shocked at all?
Why would these teams play the conference championship if they could be effected but the teams not playing can't.
By winning they can possibly increase their seeding
They've painted themselves into a corner by putting out a ranking this week. There shouldn't be a ranking after the final week of the regular season, just wait until after the conference championships.
I agree. They did the same thing last year--baked their expectations for the next week's results in the current week's rankings
Put South Carolina Or Vandys name on Bamas resume and ZERO shot they are in
South Carolina would be in if they would have beat Bama..
Didn't Alabama beat South Carolina?
@@BranDB023by 3 with Carolina’s star QB out for half the game.
I’m Roll Tide for life but Alabama ain’t it this year. Get them boys outta there
Tn should be hosting
What he should have said is that the teams that arent playing in conference championship games cant move up in the rankings cause they aren't playing butt they can move down because of the teams playing in those game could possibly jump and move teams down
5 hole is not necessarily the best spot because the number 12 is the 5th conference champion so normally I would think the 6 spot would be the best spot.
Never trust the committee.
I think the 5th conference champion should automatically be the 5th seed and get home field advantage. How can we give 4 champions a bye and home field and the 5th champion is playing on the road round 1?
Because how are you gonna give 5 byes in the bracket lol? It doesn't fit game by game.
Never mind I read wrong and can't see my responses.
When I saw the Miami/VT game I knew Miami wasn’t a natty contender.
There defense. There offense was spectacular and number 1 ranked. Also you thought Georgia was a natty contender struggling with a fcs school a few weeks ago or 8 overtimes versus Georgia tech or struggling with Florida who Miami blew out week 1?
So what’s the deal with ASU? If they lose against Iowa state ISU goes in?
Yes 5 highest ranked conference champs
I don’t get it why the committee is so in love with Alabama. They literally couldn’t score a touchdown against a bad Oklahoma team, and the fact they lost to Vanderbilt is puzzling to me. I would even put South Carolina in over Alabama with the way they finished out against Clemson. Alabama doesn’t belong in this year’s playoffs period.
The SMU thing seems pretty easy. They're ranked 8th. If they lose, Clemson takes their spot in the bracket, SMU moves over to the 8th spot and everyone below them slides down the bracket.
They lose they are out, it is that simple. They shouldn't get in even if they win, every SEC team besides MS State beats them by 30
Why shouldn't they get penalized for losing?
I don’t think so. I think Clemson moves to the #12 spot and BoiseSt moves to the #3 spot, the Big12 champion moves to #4 and SMU moves to #11 and knocks Alabama out.
@@riggsmarkham922if you’re knocked out for losing your Conference Championship then there’s no incentive for teams to try to even get to one. If SMU loses they should move down to #11 and Clemson should move to #12.
No one is sliding
No shot Alabama should be in vs Miami. NO SHOT
I get that Ole Miss had a couple of bad losses, but it doesn't seem to matter much that they DESTROYED South Carolina and DESTROYED Georgia. Nobody beats Georgia like they did.
Ole Miss's losses weren't as bad as bamas losses. Ole miss lost by 3 to a team with a losing record, and then a combined 10 to 2 teams with winning records. Bama lost by 5 to vandy (6-6) and 21 to OK (6-6).
What I am confused about is... If Clemson wins, they are instantly in with a bye (which is dumb, but is what it is). Where would SMU go? And if we are adding Clemson, who is out?
Oh, and what happens if Iowa St beats Arizona State, or UNLV beats Boise?
The committee does need to specify that whole scenario that if SMU loses to Clemson than Clemson is in and SMU goes to their pre match ranking, which would put them ahead of Alabama and knock Bama out. I don’t know what specific kind of jargon they have to use but they aren’t being as specific as they can be one way or the other
Because if SMU loses they are going to get dropped out.
@ that’s fine if they make that clear. Although I would argue SMU is being punished for being in the championship given they would only have 2 loses but at las they would both be to ranked opponents (making it 0-2) so it is what it is.
Same exact thing almost as last year with undefeated florida and georgia lmao
What are you talking about lol
Georgia got in over an undefeated FSU (not Florida) team if I remember correctly
@@Rooky2kAlabama got in over Florida state. Georgia got left out
Florida State and Georgia both missed the playoffs last year. Florida State was undefeated but their starting qb was injured so they did not receive a spot. Georgia was left out because they had a single loss to Alabama in the SEC championship.
Both teams played in a bowl game, where Georgia smoked Florida State despite being ranked lower and having a worse record. However, it’s worth noting that many seniors on Florida state opted not to play, so it wasn’t really a fair matchup.
The fact that Alabama is over UM is insane with 3 losses
every year, they should televise the final meeting/vote of the committee. that would be must watch tv. espn could make so much $$$.
They can’t just put themselves on tv saying “okay so no matter what bama is in”
Last year fsu undefeated and was snubbed by committee for Alabama, the favoritism is unbelievable. I hate the U but they deserve it.
If only 1 of Bamas 3 losses came against teams with a winning record shouldn't those other 2 losses vs teams below 500 count against them? 😂
I agree with Pat that if Clemson beats SMU in the ACC Championship game, that SMU will drop less than 10 spots (barring a 40 point blow out). Clemson gets the automatic bid, SMU stays in, and Bama is out.
6:10 Pat my man there’s a difference in 10-3 and 9-3. One lost their third game in the SEC CHAMPIONSHIP and one lost to OU of all SEC teams
Army should be in.
Remember when multiple top teams with 1 loss were fighting for a top 4 spot?
Being "pissed" now is crazy when you have 2-3 losses.
ROLL TIDE WILLY out partying tonight 😂
Its BS. Getting special treatment on name ONLY.
Committee head talked about wins and losses for everyone... but brushed right past Bama's 2 terrible losses including one at the end of the year.
7:37 lil Wayne pops in
😂
Let’s get rid of people and their biases and make the rankings done via computers & artificial intelligence. This selection committee is an absolute joke.
I know many Ole Miss fans that were pissed they won the last game and didnt go lower in rankings they went up 1 spot.
Cancel the committee….
Strength of schedule matters but South Carolina is out? They have more ranked wins than most of the teams in the playoff...?
College Football should have a NET rankings like MBB. Or a KenPom. WHO you lost to should affect your rank. WHO you beat should affect your rank.
There are tons and tons of computer ranking systems for football. Sagarin makes a well-known one. (Alabama ranks higher in these than in the polls). Also, ESPN has FPI and a SOR ranking.
McAfee for PRESIDENT
I’m convinced Alabama could not win 🥇 game all year and be in
Notre Dame needs to join the ACC officially for football. It would help the SoS for the champion and give ND an automatic bye if they win it
They want more money , they have their own contract with nbc , so no
They have an annual cakewalk as an independent
@@Jleed989 tell that to Northern Illinois 🤣
@@gregl9175guess it just depends if they value $ or National championships more
@@phillyfrak2462the problem is the fan will always support them so yes $ is more important.
Alabama could have lost every game and they still would have made it. 🤷♂️
Some conferences are so weak, the teams dont have any ranked wins.
Pretty much the only thing that could change is the 12 spot. Between ISU vs ASU for the big 12. That's it.
Connor going hard on the ACC😂😂
Damn I thought the new play off would get rid of some of the corruption
Bama making it is a joke they lost to Oklahoma
Tony just isn’t comprehending what was said. SMU can lose by 30 and they’re still in. They’ll just be one of the lower seeds. They’re not going to remove any of these teams. Only thing that can happen is the 12 team being shuffled
Tony doesn't trust the committee. And neither should you.
If ASU and Boise St lose they’re out. Iowa st and UNLV would go
SOS is funny when a committee says so and so team beat more ranked teams than the other and you ask who ranked them and the answer is oh we did
Teams that make their conference championship game EARN the right to lose that extra game. 13 games > 12 games. Period.
Bristol is well aware how many Bammers turn on their TV when they're on. Best believe this is more about ad revenue than team quality
Is cowboy hat guy serious? Bama lost to Vandy and OU. Ole Miss lost to UK and UF. Get out of here with that Ole Miss losses are worse.
Ole Miss' losses were by a combined score of 13, which is a touchdown and two-point conversion less than the amount by which Bama lost to Oklahoma (all of two weeks ago). Nevermind that Ole Miss' losses are rated higher than Bama's
Bama fan here … chill we’re going to put jalen out there alone and lose to ND by 40
Don’t forget ya’ll going to be playing ND in South Bend at the end of December🥶
8:00 Alabama may have gotten the edge over Miami, Ole Miss, and SC, but they sure didn’t get the edge over Vandy or OU did they?
You must be a ACC fan
@@SouthernlawncareVery much an SEC enjoyer
@@besteffortint but they sure do have bigger wins and a better SOS than those 3 teams combined. Stay mad kiddo and keep crying
@ SOS 14 v 15 against SC but Carolina didn’t lose to unranked teams. Huff that hopium babygirl.
It’s a little bit Miami’s fault that they played such an easy schedule…they managed to schedule 13 games and then dropped Notre Dame this year
They do get a data point...how the championships unfold will change the value of other teams wins and loses.
I can see them making the playoffs 16 teams...need more SEC teams you know... wink, wink
"Five hole is where you want to be" - Keith Olbermann
got to have a shane episode on gameday for notre dame :)
My opinion. No 3 loss team should be in. The only exception would be if Georgia loses to Texas. Miami should be in over Bama. Or maybe even a different 1 or 2 loss team.
Alabama beat two teams that neither Miami, SMU, Arizona State, or Boise could beat on their best day.
Hook’em Horns!
You guys gotta help us get TENNESSEE a home game!! There ain’t nothing like a Saturday in Knoxville
I don't care how good programs have been historically, the CFP is about current performance in the current year. If you put a 3 loss team in the CFP it delegitimizes the process; especially when Bama got Slamma'd by OU, they were dominated. I would say that for any 'historically' solid program.
What a robbery. That beast cam deserves to be in the playoffs.
I'm just so so so sick of the SEC bias in the playoff/bowl rankings process. These bowl/ranking officials are killing college football for me! Yeah I'm one of them pissed off people!
I like Alabama but there's no way in hell they should be in the playoffs over Miami...!!
11:45 Too late on that bro! Georgia was undefeated last season, lost in the SEC Championship game to Bama by 3 points, 27-24 if my memory serves, and got booted from number 1 overall to out of the playoff. So the precedent is already there unfortunately. (Yes I know it was 4 team) And due to that decision the dominoes were set in motion.
Georgia was then forced into the unfortunate situation where they had to make an example out of FSU and brutally take their soul on National Television and we are still seeing the aftermath of that tragedy to this very day…
RIP Florida State 🪦