Warframe | Make Concealed Explosives Great Again
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It will indeed
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Day 27: Can you please do the dark split sword in both heavy blade and dual dagger mode please, or the zylok prime incarns?
Happy you're experiencing the borkedness of Toxic Lash. Another amazing one to try is a beam primary with combustion beam (combustion beam spreads toxic lash and can re-proc itself, leading to some pretty hilarious map clear vs corpus/fully stripped enemies). Tent flux rifle is best for this but any beam primary works. A couple of things for anyone wanting to try min max this:
Toxic lash is also affected by your modded toxic damage of your weapon e.g. adding a 90% toxin mod to your hikou will drastically boost your damage.
Roar triple dips on toxin procs, so subsuming this over your 2 or 4 will massively boost your damage.
It also chain-reaction Sobek's Acid Shells. Combined with Emerald Shards +Toxin tick damage it scales very high and don't even need full strip as explosions will overlap and apply high amount of very high tick poisons.
All elemental mods affect lash but toxin double dips. Also Im pretty toxic lash trip dips banes (once on the hit, once on the lash damage instance, and once on the DOT)
I am loving this series of picking weapons that are generally considered bad or weak by the community and coming up with builds designed for fun or just to be silly.
That plus it exposes all those Meta Nerds who think they can mod but actually Can't. 👀
Add this to the list of Warframe mods that put you on a watchlist when Googled
I have vivid memories of being halfway across rooms in the void and still taking dmg from concealed explosives.
Concealed explosives hikou prime is actually something I use from time to time, but not for damage. It's actually quite the good weapon for looting canisters, as you can just chuck them all over a room to immediately clear it. Particularly for the zariman missions with a lot of objects hidden around, it's a godsend.
That'll be something to try. The last time i messed with clearing containers was when I was trying to use the Limbo trick to destroy containers to find the syndicate medallions.
You know what's funny regular hikou could be better than the prime due to higher fire rate
@@Thalanoxsyndicates have vosphor stashes now.
I generally use Gyre for container breaking, or a Xoris, but this looks really fun to try!
I used to give a hikou with the mod on to defence targets years ago, was very effective lol.
I commented about Kompressa on the last video so here is a cool interaction with it (not so viable and i don't know if this is common knowledge but anyway)
With Yareli, if you throw the "single blade" from Surging Blades augment into a bubble fired by Kompressa, the blade will stuck on the bubble, making it bigger and lasting longer while the blade cuts everything in rage (you can have more than one on the field at the same time). I don't think this is any useful but its a cool "secret" at least
Wiki have this information but its so random that i don't know if everyone know this already, considering the forgettable setup you need and the lack of utility about it
I used to like to build around this interaction before Yareli got her soft rework, it gave her aqua blades the option to have better single target matchup also not having to spam her 3 ability button all the time to kill any big guy was finger saving. But with Merulina guardian and more/better krit pistols available I see little incentive for augment blade damage anymore.
@@Endymion0021 Its definitely not META, but it works and can even work on Steel Path. This augment serves just as a funny silly option nowadays for those missions where you just want to waste time. Now the Kompressa interaction i don't see why this exist... its cool to have but that's it lol
Oh this got me hype, hikou became one of my fav sleeper weapons after getting a riven for it and i had no clue about this interaction
Oh my lord, you made these weapons good again after so many years, well done!
With a single line of dialogue, you've cemented in my head that Saryn talks like a chain smoker 😂
Conversely I use a regular Hikou(faster fire rate) with maximum fire rate and multishot(including Riven) with Concealed Explosive. Do I use it myself? Hell no, runs out of ammo instantly. It's specifically made for defense sorties and similar where you defend an agent. They have infinite ammo. Which makes this firerate/multishot build good even in non-endless SP.
That looks like dumb fun, will have to try that build out eventually, thanks for the helpful video MC!
Look ma, I'm on the telly!
You mentioned having low power Saryn, this would work great with what I call "Assault Saryn" - high power and duration, range goes out the window, overwrite her 4 with Roar (opening up faction hate mod slots for a "real build), toss on the "spores add corrosive to weapons" mod, and you have one of the better weapon buffing frames in the game. Pairs well with panzer vulpaphyla; you can trigger the pet spores with lash, and said pet spores would compete with regular spores anyway.
Its not just one of the better. Its easily the best
The community calls this "weapons platform Saryn"
@@elibeeblebrox1084 yeah people also use roar and nourish interchangably since she gives 3 of the toxin elements just by herself
@@elibeeblebrox1084I think I’ve heard it called gun buff saryn too
Explosive Hikou Prime, my first beloved.
Just in time for Tennocon and that Metal Gear looking throwing knives skin
I started using concealed explosives just for resource farming roam zones and it's just so stupidly handy. I'm nowhere near steel path, but zipping around on Archwing throwing knives with a general "F everything over there" approach is great.
Toxic Lash is also able to scale Shedu's pulse on empty magazine to somewhat high end fissure levels, but you also want Roar subsumed.
because how warframe is, this is why screwing around with the most random ideas gets places
my partner had to ask me to stop using my hikou prime w/concealed explosives because she was getting SEVERELY screenshook
Elemental mods affect the damage too. So add double toxin mods (cuz toxin double dips with lash) and primed heated charged and it can easily do steel path. Also use venom dose on saryn and roar and its even more insane. Dystopia’s vid has a bunch of nerdy stuff abt this if you like that.
Maybe try out the Toxic Lash/Sobek exploding mod combo, if you get enough toxin damage (through mods/warframe abilities) you can get one kill and then spread MASSIVE damage toxic procs around a whole room.
I heard ember. i like ember
speaking of which, you can still get firequake ember if you mix exometric + arcane eruption
my go-to build
I'm pretty sure Distant Observer did a video way~ back, but not for us but defence Misson targets (especially Lua mission). Thing is their damage scales with mission levels, so harder the mission becomes the stronger they hit, plus the fire rate of Hikou you can basically AFK the whole mission, forgot when was this patch but it could be before PoE (I quit WF 4 years ago, so I'm not really sure)
The additional toxin damage instance and resulting toxin procs from toxic lash will scale with any theoretical toxin damage modifier on the weapon, This means any +Toxin mods regardless if its combined into another element or not, Venom dose's +corrosive, melee exposure on melee weapons, Ect.
The additional viral damage from nourish should also amp toxic lashes damage, but roar should outperform it here as a subsume.
Now I'm curious with the Bolto and its vender trash augment.
Holy crap and lol. There goes Saryn, breaking things again!
You should experiment with Mirage's Doppelgangers and the Verdilac with it's block combo. I've been messing around with it and it's very funny because each doppelganger shoots an additional projectile from the verdilac as the doppelgangers don't have a restriction on projectiles for melee like they do with primaries/secondaries. Just be aware the camera shake is INTENSE at times
I believe toxic lash benefits from toxin mods you put on your weapon EVEN if they combine into another element like corrosive, so you could use that knowledge to make it steel path viable
Using a venon damage mod boosts the toxic lash damage and procing Venom Dose counts as moded toxin damage, increasing it even further.
All elemental mods are accounted for but toxin double dips
@@Prettykooltbh Nice
What an awesome showing here, I definitely need to max out this arcane.
Actually using Galvanized Shot would probably improve the single-target damage. And maybe Electric or Gas to increase the number of status procs?
There seem to be quite a few mods that are interesting but because they don't scale with base damage or elements see little to no use. Like Thunderbolt, Combustion beam, and Energy channel.
I’m curious to try this with Grendel, see if Nourish adds a viral proc
where is your viral for extra health damage? as i said before, i sue saryin with corrosive/venom infusion with nourish on 4 on my status empowered twin kohmak, you probably will not try because it cost so much to build it, but is is fun , specialy now with the new radiation mods.
weird you didn't try with Xata's whisper and the augment of saryn + spores for having corrosive and more extra damage
Can you use concealed explosives on Pox? What ever happened to Mutalist Variants? I want a Mutalist Pox with some better crit sooo baaaad!!!
now try it with stockpiled blight and the kunai incarnon (not activating incarnon mode since concealed explosives is turned off in incarnon mode)
O am once again asking for a new buzloc video please
wait, what about the upgrade for Volt 1 that makes the 1 into effectively Electric Lash, with the chaining damage would that be better or worse?
You should try that new Syandana one-wing on Dagath. It's the one syandana that i'd say is worth the frame it came with
Why specificly hikou? Can you use it on despair for the incarnon buff?
Next thing we know, uncle MC gonna make coptering great again. And i'm down with it lol
… welp, time to try this one the Cernos with Thunderbolt and see if the procs can also proc split flights for more arrow per explosive arrow
Thunderbolt is way worse bc less firerate and only 20% explosion chande
Great I have a hikou riven just collecting dust to try with this build
Bro you may have just created an alternative to running subsumed Titania for relic running
Wait, how did you keep 60 mod capacity after using a forma?
MR 30+
Wonder if this'd work with Xata's + more toxin damage?
I feel like having it scale with base damage only would be fine. Even if Faction mods would send it through the roof, it's not like they don't do that already with other weapons.
Nah, concealed explosives procs only scale with faction damage and the extra hit from toxic lash would be based on the explosions damage, not the weapons damage. If you don't want to use faction mods you can just subsume roar, its already saryn's most competitive option anyways.
Can u subsume xatas whisper onto saryn? I know they also affect the explosion and even proc some bubbles
You can use xatas but you typically need a specific weapon for it outperform roar. Toxic lash triple dips on roars damage buff and makes spores stronger which is significant. An example of an option thats better with xatas is the kuva drakgoon, use the fomorian accelerant mod and spam uncharged shots, toxin progenitor.
I added fire rate, fire rate and more fire rate over punch through for mine a while ago.
also ended up with a rather racist riven. that would be like the only other thing to add for damage. Also Roar.
Edit: As for the Incarnon Despair and Kunai, sadly the Incarnon forms didn’t really do much more than the pure, unadulterated *CLEM* of the Hikou.
i remember back in the day where you could give AI teamates your hikou with all fire rate and concealed explosives and it would just destroy everything. the ultimate afk defense cheese back then
Soooo, imagine you had a Saryn with a lot of Strength and 4-5 green shards with toxin dot bonus. Juicy!
you NEED to put xatas whisper on saryn with a more serious build
ittl be increadible
Where can you get this mod???
If you DO want to make this Steel Path Viable, get the Spores Augment, Subsume Roar on the Second slot. Have all three going at once.
Enjoy nuking everything under level 150 in Steel Path.
Time to find a way to make this work for Grineer too
Could always mod in more Toxin to increase the damage of Toxic Lash.
Also, now I'm a little miffed that I sold someone a Hikou riven for very cheap just the other day.
If anyone wants this to scale higher add more toxin mods as toxin lash scales with the toxin on the weapon.
Honestly for as much shit as it gets, calibans razor gyre or whatever his 1 is called can feel like old world on fire in content that isnt steel path if you build into it, its also nice cause you can just zip to enemies if you have to
As much fun as this seems to be, it requires saryn in a way so I am not a big fan. I generally don't like to build weapon setups that only work when I am using one very specific frame. I don't mind modding for other elements if I use a frame with nourish, but that's the extent I want to specifically rely on a frame to make the gun work.
Regarding WoF Ember: Equinox + Epitath fill a similar niche.
I have a mod that gives fire rate and multi shot, I now have to try this. (Also if you wanna borrow the riven for a short the answer is yes)
Wait does this work with Pox!!??
Wait, why Seeker?
Huh might actually be a good build for relic runs.
Honestly I kind of want them to just... make Concealed Explosives and Thunderbolt scale with other mods now. Like, it's 2024. We live in an AoE meta. They've tried nerfing AoE like five separate times and it never succeeded in making them weaker, and then they followed that up by releasing all the incarnon weapons that are just 'wildly cranked substats on an AoE weapon' in various configurations. Their solution for melee weapons falling behind was to give them Influence, making status melees into AoE. Kullervo is a warframe whose strongest ability is turning single-target damage into AoE. The only good lategame bows and throwing weapons especially are the ones that are AoE or incarnon into AoE. The devs seem to be conceding at this point that this is a horde shooter now. If this is the game design space that we are playing in, I genuinely do not believe it would be the worst thing for the meta for them to let you sacrifice an entire mod slot for the sake of hard-extending the viability of the worst weapon types in the game.
Hell, I say go all in-- introduce a mod like this for every weapon type, but give them slightly different functionalities. Shotguns all get a version of the Sobek mod where enemies explode into % Max HP based blast radius on death (Sobek's has the highest percentage and keeps the Corrosive damage type). Sniper rifles get 'precision headshots stagger enemies 12 meters from the target and bleed enemies 6 meters away'. Burst-fire rifles get an explosion if all [x] hits in the burst connect. Get weird with it. I think it'd be interesting and probably break their backs a lot less long-term than going back and making whole new incarnons for guns nobody cares about, in terms of workload, because now if there's a stupid gun you liked back in like MR4 that's hotdogwater nowadays you can just slap this on and it'll at least do something new. Shrug.
I have a crazy buff saryn.. I need to try this lol
Don't forget to buy your MCEGA hats
I'm gonna optimize the hell out of this, now, thanks :D
Watch dystopias vid on it if you want optimized build. Also use mk1 kunai w/ incarnon adapter for more ms and fr. conjunction voltage is the best arcane for this (i believe) bc it gives ms. Also mod for near max strength w/ venom dose, roar, and arcane velocity on saryn. Also dont forget reinforced bond for 60% fr too
I think pathogen rounds help toxic slash
I miss world on fire ember 😔
reminder get plat and essence
literally my type of mod
beeeg boom
Sobek, Acid shells
This is the kind of disgusting build i love
The MIGHTY SEER is superior
saryn being saryn
Try this with normal hikou..
I'm copying this build
i hate conseiled explosives! it was perfect to kill domas on the plains but now it doesn't work!
Want more fun My fiance uses Elemental ward ice with green shards for heal its so insanely strong the reflect damage pros toxic lash and then heals you aka immortal saryn.
oh and use arcane blessing for more HP per orb
Every video is time to uprgraaaaa.... sit, no resource
I play Yareli.
haircutter Saryn build.
24 second lets go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ominous
Now use this with lavos new pas augment😅😅
I believe from what knightmare frame said adding toxic mods to the weapons would make the toxic lash damage increase.
Yeet
teehee, etc