Parasitic Links 28% is not “slightly” higher then Jades 25%, its massively higher. Jades is additive, link is multiplicative which means if you are already modded for 200% str, jade will take you from 200 to 225, where as nidus is 200 x 1.28 = 256 - this difference only grows as your modded values increase
So with Parasitic Link you double dip on "Damage Up" type of abilities bc you have three damage multipliers ( Nidus * Strength * Ability ) instead of just two
@@gentozik Nidus will not directly affect the dmg output as ability damage will still in most cases scale with Ability Strength, so I think it'd be: Strength multiplier * Base damage. Only way you can actively get other multipliers into the calculation is with Roar, some cases Nourish and Archon Shards. Also Viral can up damage for practically all abilities whenever armor is stripped (or for true damage abilities even without).
@@KeesieOilcorner But Parasitic Link multiplies Strength, which multiplies "Damage Up" Percentage (Roar, for example), which multiplies base damage It's another damage multiplier
I still remember when I called in a Nidus specter for fun during an arbitration mission, named my melee weapon Titania Prime as a joke, and someone thought I equipped three Warframes somehow.
One important note on the shield osprey specter is that it will also enhance the shields of objectives (e.g. defense targets and excavation drills) as well as of course buffing the shields of allies, specters, and even rescue targets.
It's also the only way for shieldless Warframes like Inaros, Kullervo and Nidus to gain shields, which will also scale with shield buffs from other frames like Hildryn and Mag, as well with shield mods, if you ever want to make a shield build for them for the lols. It works on Khora's kavat, too, but you can also give it shields with [Link Redirection].
Fun fact: the specter Ospreys (as far as I know) are the only way for shieldless Warframes like Inaros, Kullervo and Nidus to gain shields; which will also scale with shield buffs from other frames like Hildryn and Mag, as well with shield mods, if you ever want to make a shield build for them for the lols. It works on Khora's kavat, too. But you can also give it a shield with [Link Redirection].
Few things I want to point out. I use specters a lot so I tried to min-max them to the fullest. *1.* Tenno specters generally do extremely low damage, so putting any weapon that doesn't either protect it or give utility is a waste. A few weapons come to mind: - Shedu for instance does an explosion that, when within radius, removes Sentient resistances, and has infinite ammo. Basmu instead heals the specter. _(note that when reaching 0 magazine ammo in battery weapons, specter switches to secondary) - The secondaries are generally bad for them, so use something where they'll run out of ammo quick (Cantare/Pox/Aegrit) - Melee has a few options that some to mind - either use Pathocyst for sometimes spawning maggots, Paracesis for another way of stripping Sentient resistances, or melees with 90 degree blocking angles.(Haven't tried Dorrclave yet for the guaranteed slash after 10 assists, Lesion passive, etc.) *2.* On call crew best setup (godroll) would be to get an elite crewmate (upgrade railjack intrinsics) with 2 top stats (gunnery and piloting) at 0. Also go with healing on kill. This gives you 50 hp/s refreshable healing which is almost constantly on. This also affects defense objectives. (Finishing hijack with 100% hp on the vehicle sounds pretty sweet right?). Zarr is the best weapon to choose (Kuva preferrably). It does the most damage. Build it with a higher reload and fire rate. The on call crew reload the Zarr "magazine" by just putting one cannon ball in, instead of the usual 1 ball at a time reload. They also don't use things like Galvanized mods, rivens, specialized mods, etc. *3.* I know you haven't mentioned Liches yet, but Sister with impact Cycron is the generally the best option. The damage from the Cycron is decent and she often uses Cursed ground (Oberons Hallowed ground) that removes statuses from the player when walked on, and Blaze artillery (Protea turrets). You generally want immunities and resistances on liches you intend to use, alongside them being a higher level with a high weapon bonus. You need to be blessed by RNGesus to get all this. I got a good one and messed up by not getting the lich to level 5, but 3, so a heads up if you have a good roll.
I have a Kuva Zarr on my crewmate and I was wondering why she goes nuts with it, but not having to do a full reload explains a lot. I don't yet have any Lich/Sister converted, so I'll try to keep that info in mind. Can you explain why the Lich is better with the Cycron than, say, a Zarr (or a Hek... which absolutely destroyed me compared to other Lich fights)? Is it just more consistent damage? Thanks for the info!
@@se7enhaender I've never had a real problem with on call crew dying, either. I'd recommend the 150% rifle crit chance elite crews over healing on kill. Give em a zarr and watch them live their best life ending everyone else's. Specter by itself with no help can do over 100 kpm (sorta tileset dependent) so i have kept it damage focused, and have not ever made a note of it dying on its own unless im somewhere real late game with a lot of disfavorable eximus interactions in the board at once
@@se7enhaender Impact status valence fusion is needed to get the lich with blaze artillery turrets. Having that in mind, the Cycron is the strongest weapon she can wield with that status. Even though it's still a weak weapon in comparison to your own weapons, when buffed with a status increase (like Saryns' corrosive buff), the Sister can do significant dps. When it comes to Kuva liches, Tonkor is usually the best option dps wise. As for valence fusion, I'm torn between electricity (molecular prime for priming enemies), and radiation (loki disarm).
You missed the air support from the Skaut which isn't a specter but fits since it summons Kahl's squad. Also the Nidus specter Ability strength bonus from parasitic link is multiplicative with your final moded strength. So it is easily the strongest strength buff if you already have high strength.
If you usually go for an army of specters, the Rhino Specter is great. Its requirements for casting Roar are peculiar, requiring 2-3 other specters online (can't remember how many), it's cast every 45 seconds for a 30 seconds Duration for 50% damage. But having a free Roar/primed Faction mod for most of the time is great, expecially if you don't subsume Roar as an Helminth and go for Xata's Whisper instead for example
Another fun thing about specters, their armor scales with level too. This makes gara and frost a decent pick for defence because their bubbles get extremely strong. At high enough level they will outscale player bubbles.
Can confirm, my crew goon just has an ignis wraith and will just clear the room with it... And i don't even have the upgraded intrinsinc from railjack, just maxed combat and 4 health XD
So I saw your video pop up hours after it's release but due to my schedule I had t stick it in the watch later section. I finally got around to watching it as I knew it's a topic I love that is rarely used in warfframe, So a touch of background to help you understand my views and style. Warframe has a lot of RPG (DND) style mechanics in it that are undervalued because so many people wanting to race to the finish line (which interestingly requires them to have to mod for more loot instead of seeking it out) I digress. Some of these mechanics are aggro control/manipulation with mods such as guardian derision, Survival instincts (Sly Vulp) and loyal companion. Arcanes such as theorem infection and as you have wonderfully pointed out... Specters (although you dud forget Kahl and you mention Lich... hopefully next video). I say all that to say if you view Warframe through an RPG class style lens there are a lot of under utilized gems in the game. Now what does all that have to do with Spectres and my style of play....? I use Dante as I like his versatility for various mission types (this could be done with several different frames. All with a great degree of efficiency and fun). II play him as a Summoner. There are several types of summoners including some others in game Nekros is a Necromancer, Atlas is a Geomancer, Khora is a Ranger Summoner etc. Even Dante has Pageflight and Word Warden. Most summons (not all) are buffed by the theorem infection arcane mentioned earlier. Yes some may scream that they have to use kitguns!!!! Ok. than don't play this style of summoner. it's up to you. For those who don't mind or even like Kitguns and zaws you may continue reading. I have several builds each configurations as a different type of summoner. Each have a very different playstyle and purpose. A few of them are a : Nuker (Dark verse focused get them charged with DOT and then bring the pain), Tank (Light verse focused) (yes I mean the actual style of a tank that draws aggro not the false definition of being durable) etc. I even have one that leans in heavily on the Arcane so that my companions are the main damage dealers. It's a beautiful thing when you have over 20 pets on the screen handling various roles and your job is to keep them up, buffed and ready to go. This is my personal favorite :: Side note RJC have specific functions and can use weapon arcanes such as Residual boils. Adding more elements and stronger pet buffs, I have a healer and a crit damage dealer as my top choices. ::. If anyone is interested I can give more info as this already long enough and I do have a baseline template that can be used in your own style. One final golden nugget to this style..... Every time DE introduces a new frame, companion, arcane, buff etc., you will feel like it is a direct buff to this playstyle. Till next time Tenno.
Suggestion for something to put in tenno specter melee slots: Nepheri. Tenno specters will spam the melee neutral combo when enemies get in melee range and Nepheri's neutral combo force procs slash and fires off 3 fireballs each combo that go out to 20 meters and force proc heat.
Thanks! I can let you know in a comment :) In general any weapon with high base damage is best for the tenno specters as these don't use any of the mods equipped. So think shotguns, several AoE weapons like the Bramma Zarr and Tenet Envoy or Snipers/Bows. Same goes for secondary and melee. However, you can also use some weapons with added QoL like the Proboscis Cernos as I show in the vid. For any of the specters that do use equipped mods your choices are more flexible as you can increase the damage by alot through modding. In general though the direction high base damage and AoE capabilities will give the best results if you're looking for specters able to kill. Small side note is that any specter will never use alternate fire modes on equipped weapons which might disable some cool combos. Hope that answers your question!
In terms of weapons, I recommend the following: - Phantasma/Prime: Highest radiation proc chance for primary wepaons, so specters offers passive aggro CC that lasts for the entirety they're alive. Helps both your and their survivability. - Kuva Nukor: Same idea, highest radiation proc chance and rapid fire, offering the same passive aggro CC. - Vastilok: The melee's first shot has a knockback so specters can instantly go back to using their gun whenever enemy enters their melee range.
@@KeesieOilcorner Vapor spectres with Jade's Ensemble weapon buffs? Evensong specifically should still force 7 puncture proc on hit even if even if it almost never gets a kill to proc the multishot buff. I havent tested these but dont see why the unique weapon traits wouldnt work
Shoutouts to this one guy I saw in the comments of a different specter video who said he uses excal umbra specters and when he summons them it's like umbra is helping him out
Your description of Wukongs twin was while technically true, still inadequate to describe how he actually works, because he will not just randomly choose a weapon from your arsenal. It is you that actually controls what weapon he uses, because he will always equip the last weapon that you had equipped. So if you want him to melee, equip your melee, then switch to primary or secondary, and your twin will equip melee. So if you changed to your secondary and changed back to melee, you'll see your twin is now using his secondary.
An important note is that specters, especially crew ones bypass damage attenuations on enemies. If a crewmember targets a lich for example they’ll shred them.
The Stalker specter also has the surprising feature of being revivable when downed, with no time expiration. This was observed just after its release so it might be a bug and/or will be nerfed. And it was in open world.
My favourite specter is protea, you forgot: gives herself infinite ammo, turret has insane dmg even as spectre, some cc with slash granades, overall amazing imo
About miscellaneous specters: there are also legendary ones that you can unlock with railjack intrinsics. Those have an additional bonus like crit damage on secondaries. I also think that galvanized mods don't work for them but I'm not sure if that's still the case
This is true... until it isn't. Because if you don't bring a melee, you can both use guns. He will use the primary regardless of what weapon you had equipped on summon and doesn't switch if you do (not until he runs out of ammo), but you can both shoot. I used this the other day to make him freeze everything with a Glaxion, while I could still shoot the frozen enemies with my secondary. Fun!
I wasn't aware of that trick, but in my experience the twin isn't bound by a ammo pool. He has always just kept shooting well past what I would have been able to. Just equip him the Brahma and turn him loose, he never stops loosing arrows. @@se7enhaender
For a sec I thought I was the only one to catch the oversight. Had to go down a ways to find your comment stating what I just reposted I guess. Seems not many ppl understand that weapon changingmechanic very well.
If you run 4 citrines with 4 citrine specters all of their preserving shells stack so you can get 99.999999% damage reduction before factoring things like armor or adaptation lol. Citrine specters only have a 5 second cooldown for this ability and cast it when they see enemies so it’s pretty much always up.
I am a big fan of the Pocket Wisp myself. Along with the mots, she also uses her Will-O-Wisp ability to reposition herself even with the "hold position" command (she then returns to that point afterwards). Will have to try a Pocket Liberian (Dante... love this frame)
Dante = Overgaurd Support Nidus = power strength and slight healing Volt = Crit Shield mult and barricade support Protea = dispenser and blaze artillery Octavia = passive energy regen Use a nataruk as bows will always usually hit and they aim for the head, secondaries are usually not good so use something with low ammo like the cantare and for the melee use a sword and shield for passive damage reduction if they block, or use something like a gun blade for a little knock back/rag doll?
The railjack crewmate is so incredibly busted. I swear my guns do more damage in his hands than they do in mine because this dude can fucking one-shot Acolytes and then go "Killed the enemy! ... sorry...". The NERVE!
So something to note os that while the On call crew is summoned like a specter they are considered a pet. I noticed they share any life steal effects from certian wepons if they have them, healing , ect. I put my Incarnon Furis (with the new loka lifesteal mod) on one and they healed me to full and kept me healed and all my specters alive (this mission i summoned ALL OF THEM becuase army is funny. Gara Specters are also pretty solid for a specter type and while it doesnt lost it on the Wiki I notice they prefer to be between you and an defense objective or operative when one is avaliable. They will actively move out to collect ammo if needed but will prefer to sit still for a much longer period of time then any other specter of thier own volition. Thier wall also scales with level meaning thier wall lasts a very long time. Specters summon by a Nyx seem to do more damage but as I always make it a point to mind control something it seems to be a bug they share the Mind Control damage. They also prefer to sit around a Nyx and those who do fight independently I notice teleport or stay near her. Nyx is really good with specters even in nightmare as you can mind control them or control the Specter Spawned by Sisters which do have your loadout and looks with increased stats. Effcictly making a duplicate of you just stronger that you make stronger.
Oh Right Nyx Specters Cast all thier abilities. And Again doesnt say it on the wiki unless you watch them. And when they cast Mind Control the actively target thier Mind Control Target for the duration of the Dmg Build Up. Meaning theu buff thier own Mind Control targets. Which the Specter spawned by a sister is a Nyx will cast it on a player. Which just prevents that player from attacking the lick or corpus. But should that Sister Specter be Mind Controlled, the Mind Controlled PLayer and that Nyx's will be switched back to freindly and allowed to attack normally with increased damage. Should both Nyx's Control each other at the same time thier teams become neutral and incinivble with you seeing yours and the other Nyx's buff on you if you are playing that Nyx. Something to note is that the Sister Nyx Specter's Mindcontrol will always outlast thier spawn period so when they do dissappear it doesnt effect you unless you are rhino and cast Iron skin then it will instant kill you becuase you end up taking somehtnig around 10mil+ Radiaon damage breaking the Gates outright.
in my opinion the most broken tactic is to use the operator/drifter + excalibur umbra. With that you can 'duck' and be invisible and invincible as long as your energy allow to be (usually long enough to sneak from corner to corner) and you can stay hidden while hacking systems. Umbra in the other hand is following you and killing traps and enemies without causing alarms 👍 Operator is mostly forgotten by people, but is so much OP when cared and upgraded
I'm surprised they haven't disabled specters for Elite Deep Archimedea. They can completely trivialize so many of the restrictions that would otherwise be an actual challenge to deal with. On the one hand, less frustrating mirror defense is nice, but it is also refreshing to finally have a (sometimes) genuinely challenging gamemode.
I have to criticize you in not mentioning Khal and his Skaut landing craft. The air support ability of that one summons Khal and his squad to aid you, when you use the Air Support Charge. They stick around for 5 min and there are quite a few of them, you can also reuse the Air Support Charge (remember they are disposable items) to heal them and reset the duration, alternative, if you have the Railjack intrinsic that reduce the air support recharge time, you can resummon them when the 5 min duration is up, setting their level to the current enemies level. Khal himself uses a Gratler who hits way harder then it has any right to, and among the quad there is a shield drone who might, maybe, probably will show up and support the whole squad and you. Oh, and you can get a 100x air support charge BP and it take 1 min to craft, and is fairly cheap to make, requiring only materials you tend to stock up on.
This video is fantastic! You are very concise and easily understood. Plus I really liked your editing style, especially your use of slo-mo close-ups on the frames; a very good looking video. And that lo-fi Skyrim music was a treat to include-chef's kiss. Subbed! EZ Also, you hinted at making a video about Liches and I would love to see it! But I would also like it if you included the special Railjack summons you can acquire from Fortuna (the ones from Lvl 10 Command intrinsics). Would love your recommendation on stats and special abilities!
@@Jealous_Oberon Will have a look! I'm still yet to unlock rank 10 intrinsics on some railjack things (don't tell anyone). But once I do and I investigate a bit I might do an extension video on specter weapons and these special crewmate abilities :)
i am playing round about 5ooo h. steelpath endlessmissions and every day in the last yaer i try to find new cool funny builds. probably i was sleeping all the time on that spectres. TYVM Tenno
The most hilarious thing about the stalker specter is that he has the stalkers drop table and rapidly spawning him in nightmare missions will drop so much. This exploit will probably be fixed soon enough and also might get you banned.
note: tested once not sure if it still goes Stalker specter doesn't count as other specters so you can have him summoned and another specter, and Carl Carl is timed tho
Rivens do work (but only with Railjack still it seems). What doesn't also work are most arcanes. Only bonuses on arcanes like reload speed tend to function. This is the same with Equinox and Wukong for instance.
To be fair, they have been very well covered by other content creators and we are pretty aware of how underwhelming they are, with a few exceptions. Check the kengineer's videos for more detailed and scientifically robust videos on warframes' characters, weapones, etc.
I'm always confused at this point 3:56 ...on the override option, I always get it wrong. it's kind of confusing and I still don't understand it. please explain, ty
unless they changed the skate from the enemy on map... isn't it at least immune to status? have you ever seen grineer try to kill them? they can't do it. unless they changed it.
Only specter i use is WISP- free bufs for all your alies and she have almost %100 uptime on buffs. I olso give her TENET GLAXION and KUVA NUKOR for free priming and freezing enemies. ( you can olso use ignis wrath for heat proks) . Attack speed and movement speed is so good and free stun is olso nice. And if i need energy i use prottea with equlibirum for infinite energy.
Metis on jupiter (normal), trigger the alarm, zap around with wukong(enveloping cloud augment for rescue target, subsume perspicasity for ez hacks), easy 2
So like, yea Dante overguard would be the obvious choice but it's not like you can control it so it's actually just topping up your overguard. Dante has a lot of skills to be able to use. How do you coax overguard out of a specter reliably?
dont forget our friend Kahl xDD he come with 2 more ALLIES and they HEAL u as well!!! he can be summon from the air support charges of the Skaut (you need to finish the new war quest and either buy it with plat or can be farm)
Do the spectre use the mods loadout you had on when imprinting them? Like if i made a loadout with a rhino having max ability strength would that affect the spectre roar compared to if i imprinted a rhino with no mods equipped
Suggestions for specters... for mirror defense nission? Wisp or else? I want to calmly collect crystals on Titania and not think about defending the object. It's a pity to waste Ancient and Moa with Osprey. But for 1 object it's worth spending something from this
@@sundusky Trinity casts blessing which also works on defense targets, so that could be an option. Mix a stalker specter in too to draw some aggro and maybe that's enough :)
Corrupted lancer is also goated for defense missions with its area denial attack; I'd rank it third after healer and osprey for stationary objectives. Citrine is also underrated for defense missions as her 3 melts everything your specters so much as breathe on. It's a nice symmetry that she's one of the best frames to use in the mission she comes from.
Totally off-topic to the video but I like the green colour scheme you have put into your game UI. Any chance of me getting a copy how you set that up? I really want it that way too!
Do you happen to know what causes specters to randomly spawn sometimes in missions? This is rather rare, but I’ve definitely notices an uptick of this happening ever since crossplay was introduced, but I only ever really see them in endless missions or even sometimes in sanctum. This includes deep arch despite the no gear wheel modifier (including solo), and for the lore of me I’ve only ever run into a few people that have seen this happen. Usually it spawns a Dante specter with random weapons, but I’ve seen a few oberons and mag specters too, and I think it might be cause by some networking thing when Xbox consoles host, but I thought I’d ask if you knew anything.
No, that's a Solar Rail relic from the older days of Warframe where you used to have to build specters to act as AI Warframes to defend your territories (old PvP stuff). It's not usable anymore.
@@A_Game_Zone yeah, I farmed it out a few days ago. Got all the weapons and mods. Hotfixing is paused until Koumei so make the most of it. Do note that the loot doesn't spawn unless and until you drop another Stalker Spectre, so you won't get drops from your last use.
The Roller Specter is actually solid isn´t it? Like 9 Energy per second, that´s a Zenurik replacement. and something else; i didn´t catch it in the Video; do augments work? For example to get a loot frame along with you, would Hydroid / Atlas / Korha be a working choice?
@@XPilotPlayer In terms of spamming them around yes, but if you want multiple options available to you without having to overwrite your vapors all the time and wait 8hours, the other ones can be handy, hence the general advise part in the video.
I put wisp on my vapor....turn out to be a trash 😂😂.....i though if imprint the specter as current loadout and that include all the mods we put on our loadout....its just the warframe without mods lol
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Parasitic Links 28% is not “slightly” higher then Jades 25%, its massively higher. Jades is additive, link is multiplicative which means if you are already modded for 200% str, jade will take you from 200 to 225, where as nidus is 200 x 1.28 = 256 - this difference only grows as your modded values increase
Didn't know! Thanks for pointing this out :)
So with Parasitic Link you double dip on "Damage Up" type of abilities bc you have three damage multipliers ( Nidus * Strength * Ability ) instead of just two
@@gentozik Nidus will not directly affect the dmg output as ability damage will still in most cases scale with Ability Strength, so I think it'd be: Strength multiplier * Base damage. Only way you can actively get other multipliers into the calculation is with Roar, some cases Nourish and Archon Shards. Also Viral can up damage for practically all abilities whenever armor is stripped (or for true damage abilities even without).
@@KeesieOilcorner But Parasitic Link multiplies Strength, which multiplies "Damage Up" Percentage (Roar, for example), which multiplies base damage
It's another damage multiplier
Is it a final multiplier that will also apply to Arcane effects and conditional buffs from esoteric sources?
I still remember when I called in a Nidus specter for fun during an arbitration mission, named my melee weapon Titania Prime as a joke, and someone thought I equipped three Warframes somehow.
If you have trouble on Elite Deep Archimedea's Mirror Defense missions, summon an Ancient Healer Specter and it turns into cakewalk.
Keep in mind on defense objectives their damage reduction is still only up to 50% as of 90%, but yeah its a big help
If only the gear isn't disabled
Yea, bc you literally doubling objectives health
I mean it might be worth sacrificing the fifty vosfor for the ease, maybe @@A_Game_Zone
@@A_Game_Zone it isn't, it just has very high cd
One important note on the shield osprey specter is that it will also enhance the shields of objectives (e.g. defense targets and excavation drills) as well as of course buffing the shields of allies, specters, and even rescue targets.
@@mozeytown Makes it even better! Thanks for the comment :)
It's also the only way for shieldless Warframes like Inaros, Kullervo and Nidus to gain shields, which will also scale with shield buffs from other frames like Hildryn and Mag, as well with shield mods, if you ever want to make a shield build for them for the lols.
It works on Khora's kavat, too, but you can also give it shields with [Link Redirection].
@insertname9736 yes! Mag + shield osprey is an easy early-game cheat code for hijack missions 😂
Fun fact: the specter Ospreys (as far as I know) are the only way for shieldless Warframes like Inaros, Kullervo and Nidus to gain shields; which will also scale with shield buffs from other frames like Hildryn and Mag, as well with shield mods, if you ever want to make a shield build for them for the lols.
It works on Khora's kavat, too. But you can also give it a shield with [Link Redirection].
Subsumed the 3rd out for nourish you still get the cat but can't control it but who uses that ability
@mikemacek4470 that ability is useful for changing her stance or setting a target. Especially for support and following the Defense target.
That Nightmare mode spectre is turning on you is what I found out the hard way with my jade spectre deleting me instantly with a Nataruk 🤣
I summoned two specters to help on a nightmare defense and Instantly lost
My Spectre Protea with a Kiva Ogriss is what got me 😂
If you spam the stalker one you get his loot.
@@ogrehaslayers605when we are the receiver of our own weapons power xD
Lol I found out using the new Stalker specter. I thought it glitched and thought he was hunting me. I was so confused.
Few things I want to point out. I use specters a lot so I tried to min-max them to the fullest.
*1.*
Tenno specters generally do extremely low damage, so putting any weapon that doesn't either protect it or give utility is a waste. A few weapons come to mind:
- Shedu for instance does an explosion that, when within radius, removes Sentient resistances, and has infinite ammo. Basmu instead heals the specter. _(note that when reaching 0 magazine ammo in battery weapons, specter switches to secondary)
- The secondaries are generally bad for them, so use something where they'll run out of ammo quick (Cantare/Pox/Aegrit)
- Melee has a few options that some to mind - either use Pathocyst for sometimes spawning maggots, Paracesis for another way of stripping Sentient resistances, or melees with 90 degree blocking angles.(Haven't tried Dorrclave yet for the guaranteed slash after 10 assists, Lesion passive, etc.)
*2.*
On call crew best setup (godroll) would be to get an elite crewmate (upgrade railjack intrinsics) with 2 top stats (gunnery and piloting) at 0. Also go with healing on kill. This gives you 50 hp/s refreshable healing which is almost constantly on. This also affects defense objectives. (Finishing hijack with 100% hp on the vehicle sounds pretty sweet right?). Zarr is the best weapon to choose (Kuva preferrably). It does the most damage. Build it with a higher reload and fire rate. The on call crew reload the Zarr "magazine" by just putting one cannon ball in, instead of the usual 1 ball at a time reload. They also don't use things like Galvanized mods, rivens, specialized mods, etc.
*3.*
I know you haven't mentioned Liches yet, but Sister with impact Cycron is the generally the best option. The damage from the Cycron is decent and she often uses Cursed ground (Oberons Hallowed ground) that removes statuses from the player when walked on, and Blaze artillery (Protea turrets). You generally want immunities and resistances on liches you intend to use, alongside them being a higher level with a high weapon bonus. You need to be blessed by RNGesus to get all this. I got a good one and messed up by not getting the lich to level 5, but 3, so a heads up if you have a good roll.
@@ivanbenja4 Awesome comment, thanks for these tips!
I have a Kuva Zarr on my crewmate and I was wondering why she goes nuts with it, but not having to do a full reload explains a lot.
I don't yet have any Lich/Sister converted, so I'll try to keep that info in mind. Can you explain why the Lich is better with the Cycron than, say, a Zarr (or a Hek... which absolutely destroyed me compared to other Lich fights)? Is it just more consistent damage?
Thanks for the info!
@@se7enhaender I've never had a real problem with on call crew dying, either. I'd recommend the 150% rifle crit chance elite crews over healing on kill. Give em a zarr and watch them live their best life ending everyone else's. Specter by itself with no help can do over 100 kpm (sorta tileset dependent) so i have kept it damage focused, and have not ever made a note of it dying on its own unless im somewhere real late game with a lot of disfavorable eximus interactions in the board at once
I'm pretty sure the Lich level thing is a myth, you get the same converted lich independently of level reached.
@@se7enhaender Impact status valence fusion is needed to get the lich with blaze artillery turrets. Having that in mind, the Cycron is the strongest weapon she can wield with that status. Even though it's still a weak weapon in comparison to your own weapons, when buffed with a status increase (like Saryns' corrosive buff), the Sister can do significant dps.
When it comes to Kuva liches, Tonkor is usually the best option dps wise. As for valence fusion, I'm torn between electricity (molecular prime for priming enemies), and radiation (loki disarm).
You missed the air support from the Skaut which isn't a specter but fits since it summons Kahl's squad.
Also the Nidus specter Ability strength bonus from parasitic link is multiplicative with your final moded strength. So it is easily the strongest strength buff if you already have high strength.
Thanks for pointing these out!
If you usually go for an army of specters, the Rhino Specter is great. Its requirements for casting Roar are peculiar, requiring 2-3 other specters online (can't remember how many), it's cast every 45 seconds for a 30 seconds Duration for 50% damage. But having a free Roar/primed Faction mod for most of the time is great, expecially if you don't subsume Roar as an Helminth and go for Xata's Whisper instead for example
@@KhristianBolano Good tip!
Another fun thing about specters, their armor scales with level too. This makes gara and frost a decent pick for defence because their bubbles get extremely strong. At high enough level they will outscale player bubbles.
Be me with 100 crafted specters
Only try to cast them in no gear allowed missions
Apart from Nidus link buff, Dante is my go-to specter for difficult missions. He constantly gives free overguard. S-tier specter.
Fun fact: using specters (and more important, Railjack's crew members) on a Deep Archimedia mission, the specters will (most likely) trivialize it.
Can confirm, my crew goon just has an ignis wraith and will just clear the room with it... And i don't even have the upgraded intrinsinc from railjack, just maxed combat and 4 health XD
So I saw your video pop up hours after it's release but due to my schedule I had t stick it in the watch later section. I finally got around to watching it as I knew it's a topic I love that is rarely used in warfframe,
So a touch of background to help you understand my views and style.
Warframe has a lot of RPG (DND) style mechanics in it that are undervalued because so many people wanting to race to the finish line (which interestingly requires them to have to mod for more loot instead of seeking it out) I digress.
Some of these mechanics are aggro control/manipulation with mods such as guardian derision, Survival instincts (Sly Vulp) and loyal companion. Arcanes such as theorem infection and as you have wonderfully pointed out... Specters (although you dud forget Kahl and you mention Lich... hopefully next video).
I say all that to say if you view Warframe through an RPG class style lens there are a lot of under utilized gems in the game.
Now what does all that have to do with Spectres and my style of play....?
I use Dante as I like his versatility for various mission types (this could be done with several different frames. All with a great degree of efficiency and fun). II play him as a Summoner. There are several types of summoners including some others in game Nekros is a Necromancer, Atlas is a Geomancer, Khora is a Ranger Summoner etc. Even Dante has Pageflight and Word Warden.
Most summons (not all) are buffed by the theorem infection arcane mentioned earlier. Yes some may scream that they have to use kitguns!!!! Ok. than don't play this style of summoner. it's up to you.
For those who don't mind or even like Kitguns and zaws you may continue reading.
I have several builds each configurations as a different type of summoner. Each have a very different playstyle and purpose. A few of them are a : Nuker (Dark verse focused get them charged with DOT and then bring the pain), Tank (Light verse focused) (yes I mean the actual style of a tank that draws aggro not the false definition of being durable) etc. I even have one that leans in heavily on the Arcane so that my companions are the main damage dealers. It's a beautiful thing when you have over 20 pets on the screen handling various roles and your job is to keep them up, buffed and ready to go. This is my personal favorite
:: Side note RJC have specific functions and can use weapon arcanes such as Residual boils. Adding more elements and stronger pet buffs, I have a healer and a crit damage dealer as my top choices. ::.
If anyone is interested I can give more info as this already long enough and I do have a baseline template that can be used in your own style.
One final golden nugget to this style.....
Every time DE introduces a new frame, companion, arcane, buff etc., you will feel like it is a direct buff to this playstyle.
Till next time Tenno.
Suggestion for something to put in tenno specter melee slots: Nepheri. Tenno specters will spam the melee neutral combo when enemies get in melee range and Nepheri's neutral combo force procs slash and fires off 3 fireballs each combo that go out to 20 meters and force proc heat.
2:15 being really smooth, i'll sub
you should make a list on specter weapon load outs . I would like to know what the best weapons to equip on specters . great video .
Thanks! I can let you know in a comment :)
In general any weapon with high base damage is best for the tenno specters as these don't use any of the mods equipped. So think shotguns, several AoE weapons like the Bramma Zarr and Tenet Envoy or Snipers/Bows. Same goes for secondary and melee. However, you can also use some weapons with added QoL like the Proboscis Cernos as I show in the vid.
For any of the specters that do use equipped mods your choices are more flexible as you can increase the damage by alot through modding.
In general though the direction high base damage and AoE capabilities will give the best results if you're looking for specters able to kill.
Small side note is that any specter will never use alternate fire modes on equipped weapons which might disable some cool combos.
Hope that answers your question!
In terms of weapons, I recommend the following:
- Phantasma/Prime: Highest radiation proc chance for primary wepaons, so specters offers passive aggro CC that lasts for the entirety they're alive. Helps both your and their survivability.
- Kuva Nukor: Same idea, highest radiation proc chance and rapid fire, offering the same passive aggro CC.
- Vastilok: The melee's first shot has a knockback so specters can instantly go back to using their gun whenever enemy enters their melee range.
1 I've found that is nice is amprex or similar chaining weapons as they can not only get decent kills but also stat primes
@@KeesieOilcorner Vapor spectres with Jade's Ensemble weapon buffs? Evensong specifically should still force 7 puncture proc on hit even if even if it almost never gets a kill to proc the multishot buff.
I havent tested these but dont see why the unique weapon traits wouldnt work
Shoutouts to this one guy I saw in the comments of a different specter video who said he uses excal umbra specters and when he summons them it's like umbra is helping him out
The Styanax specter's Rally Point casting uptime is great. It's like an energy pizza except he also shoots people.
Your description of Wukongs twin was while technically true, still inadequate to describe how he actually works, because he will not just randomly choose a weapon from your arsenal.
It is you that actually controls what weapon he uses, because he will always equip the last weapon that you had equipped.
So if you want him to melee, equip your melee, then switch to primary or secondary, and your twin will equip melee. So if you changed to your secondary and changed back to melee, you'll see your twin is now using his secondary.
i love enter a mission, summon the tripulation, summon a specter and call the grineers/corpus of the camp, then the party starts
Everybody gangsta til I summon Kahl, Stalker and Trod all at once.
Ive been using specters religiously, and am glad to see a video talking about it ❤
An important note is that specters, especially crew ones bypass damage attenuations on enemies. If a crewmember targets a lich for example they’ll shred them.
The Stalker specter also has the surprising feature of being revivable when downed, with no time expiration. This was observed just after its release so it might be a bug and/or will be nerfed. And it was in open world.
My favourite specter is protea, you forgot: gives herself infinite ammo, turret has insane dmg even as spectre, some cc with slash granades, overall amazing imo
@@Frozen_Hope good points!
This is the kind ofvideo a lot of people needed ❤
Great video it's insane how under-utilized these guys are I haven't even touched warframe spectres I want to make a Wisp one now !
About miscellaneous specters: there are also legendary ones that you can unlock with railjack intrinsics. Those have an additional bonus like crit damage on secondaries. I also think that galvanized mods don't work for them but I'm not sure if that's still the case
I love my little Kahl of Duty squad. I like the silly names they get.
trinity is also an amazing pick, she constantly uses blessing which can easily carry many defense objectives
Finally someone pointed out Dante specter...
Wukong clone uses the opposite weapon of you when all available. If you melee it shoots the weapon you last had. If you shoot it melees
This is true... until it isn't. Because if you don't bring a melee, you can both use guns. He will use the primary regardless of what weapon you had equipped on summon and doesn't switch if you do (not until he runs out of ammo), but you can both shoot.
I used this the other day to make him freeze everything with a Glaxion, while I could still shoot the frozen enemies with my secondary. Fun!
@@se7enhaender VERY TRUE. Zarr plus nukor as the prinary goes crazy
Edit:grammar
I wasn't aware of that trick, but in my experience the twin isn't bound by a ammo pool. He has always just kept shooting well past what I would have been able to. Just equip him the Brahma and turn him loose, he never stops loosing arrows. @@se7enhaender
For a sec I thought I was the only one to catch the oversight. Had to go down a ways to find your comment stating what I just reposted I guess. Seems not many ppl understand that weapon changingmechanic very well.
If you run 4 citrines with 4 citrine specters all of their preserving shells stack so you can get 99.999999% damage reduction before factoring things like armor or adaptation lol. Citrine specters only have a 5 second cooldown for this ability and cast it when they see enemies so it’s pretty much always up.
I am a big fan of the Pocket Wisp myself. Along with the mots, she also uses her Will-O-Wisp ability to reposition herself even with the "hold position" command (she then returns to that point afterwards). Will have to try a Pocket Liberian (Dante... love this frame)
Dante specter a ancient healer and a shield drone and you are close to immortal
Warframe on easy mode 😎
@@KeesieOilcorner true
Anotger random specter you missed was the Ballistica Prime passive which makes ghost specters of anyone you killed for a few seconds
Dante = Overgaurd Support
Nidus = power strength and slight healing
Volt = Crit Shield mult and barricade support
Protea = dispenser and blaze artillery
Octavia = passive energy regen
Use a nataruk as bows will always usually hit and they aim for the head, secondaries are usually not good so use something with low ammo like the cantare and for the melee use a sword and shield for passive damage reduction if they block, or use something like a gun blade for a little knock back/rag doll?
I liked that spectre joke 😆
Gained a sub
There's also a Khal Squad of specters summoned by an air support.
I've never actually used specters. Dante will serve me well
The railjack crewmate is so incredibly busted. I swear my guns do more damage in his hands than they do in mine because this dude can fucking one-shot Acolytes and then go "Killed the enemy! ... sorry...".
The NERVE!
So something to note os that while the On call crew is summoned like a specter they are considered a pet.
I noticed they share any life steal effects from certian wepons if they have them, healing , ect. I put my Incarnon Furis (with the new loka lifesteal mod) on one and they healed me to full and kept me healed and all my specters alive (this mission i summoned ALL OF THEM becuase army is funny.
Gara Specters are also pretty solid for a specter type and while it doesnt lost it on the Wiki I notice they prefer to be between you and an defense objective or operative when one is avaliable. They will actively move out to collect ammo if needed but will prefer to sit still for a much longer period of time then any other specter of thier own volition.
Thier wall also scales with level meaning thier wall lasts a very long time.
Specters summon by a Nyx seem to do more damage but as I always make it a point to mind control something it seems to be a bug they share the Mind Control damage. They also prefer to sit around a Nyx and those who do fight independently I notice teleport or stay near her.
Nyx is really good with specters even in nightmare as you can mind control them or control the Specter Spawned by Sisters which do have your loadout and looks with increased stats. Effcictly making a duplicate of you just stronger that you make stronger.
Interesting! :) Thanks for the comment
Oh Right Nyx Specters Cast all thier abilities. And Again doesnt say it on the wiki unless you watch them. And when they cast Mind Control the actively target thier Mind Control Target for the duration of the Dmg Build Up. Meaning theu buff thier own Mind Control targets. Which the Specter spawned by a sister is a Nyx will cast it on a player. Which just prevents that player from attacking the lick or corpus. But should that Sister Specter be Mind Controlled, the Mind Controlled PLayer and that Nyx's will be switched back to freindly and allowed to attack normally with increased damage. Should both Nyx's Control each other at the same time thier teams become neutral and incinivble with you seeing yours and the other Nyx's buff on you if you are playing that Nyx. Something to note is that the Sister Nyx Specter's Mindcontrol will always outlast thier spawn period so when they do dissappear it doesnt effect you unless you are rhino and cast Iron skin then it will instant kill you becuase you end up taking somehtnig around 10mil+ Radiaon damage breaking the Gates outright.
Полезная информация. Специально для обороны сделаю билд через этот мод.
Pretty good video, I use Crew call a lot, And I thing you forgot the Air support dron Kahl, that summons up to 4 allies
in my opinion the most broken tactic is to use the operator/drifter + excalibur umbra.
With that you can 'duck' and be invisible and invincible as long as your energy allow to be (usually long enough to sneak from corner to corner) and you can stay hidden while hacking systems.
Umbra in the other hand is following you and killing traps and enemies without causing alarms 👍
Operator is mostly forgotten by people, but is so much OP when cared and upgraded
I'm surprised they haven't disabled specters for Elite Deep Archimedea. They can completely trivialize so many of the restrictions that would otherwise be an actual challenge to deal with. On the one hand, less frustrating mirror defense is nice, but it is also refreshing to finally have a (sometimes) genuinely challenging gamemode.
@@GhostCorvid20 The boss fight was actually challenging in the first week it came out, miss that ome tbh
There are people that cry if they have to put effort on a boss fight in DE without their meta loadout. Blame them
Cosmic specters spawn 10 levels higher than current enemy level at the point you deploy them 😇
Very insightful, thanks my dude
Any time!
You forgot the kahl bros
Love the lofi skyrim hits homie
I have to criticize you in not mentioning Khal and his Skaut landing craft.
The air support ability of that one summons Khal and his squad to aid you, when you use the Air Support Charge.
They stick around for 5 min and there are quite a few of them, you can also reuse the Air Support Charge (remember they are disposable items) to heal them and reset the duration, alternative, if you have the Railjack intrinsic that reduce the air support recharge time, you can resummon them when the 5 min duration is up, setting their level to the current enemies level.
Khal himself uses a Gratler who hits way harder then it has any right to, and among the quad there is a shield drone who might, maybe, probably will show up and support the whole squad and you.
Oh, and you can get a 100x air support charge BP and it take 1 min to craft, and is fairly cheap to make, requiring only materials you tend to stock up on.
You forgot about desert skate specter, you can get these from baro's void raider mission
@@pablogonzaleziii It's in here as one of the specters of all time
This video is fantastic! You are very concise and easily understood. Plus I really liked your editing style, especially your use of slo-mo close-ups on the frames; a very good looking video. And that lo-fi Skyrim music was a treat to include-chef's kiss. Subbed! EZ
Also, you hinted at making a video about Liches and I would love to see it! But I would also like it if you included the special Railjack summons you can acquire from Fortuna (the ones from Lvl 10 Command intrinsics). Would love your recommendation on stats and special abilities!
@@Jealous_Oberon Will have a look! I'm still yet to unlock rank 10 intrinsics on some railjack things (don't tell anyone). But once I do and I investigate a bit I might do an extension video on specter weapons and these special crewmate abilities :)
From Past to Present Lofi on the background... I am shocked how the realisation hit me in the middle of the video
i am playing round about 5ooo h. steelpath endlessmissions and every day in the last yaer i try to find new cool funny builds. probably i was sleeping all the time on that spectres. TYVM Tenno
Informative, concise. Thank you.
So what I’m hearing is…
“Desert skate specter rework when?”
you can farm the stalker drops from using the stalker specter in nightmare missions
You forgot a specter type, the ones generated by the balistica prime.
The most hilarious thing about the stalker specter is that he has the stalkers drop table and rapidly spawning him in nightmare missions will drop so much.
This exploit will probably be fixed soon enough and also might get you banned.
@@willythekid0768 It's insane levels of sphagetti code lmao
What about Atlas?
It can use most of its abilities except for Tectonics and can summon 2 golems, being the only summoning specter that i can recall.
note: tested once not sure if it still goes
Stalker specter doesn't count as other specters
so you can have him summoned and another specter, and Carl
Carl is timed tho
Great info got another SUB
Liches are very good as defenders too. Waiting for your vid on it
Crewmates don't use all mods. Galvanized mods (at least the kill effects) and rivens dont work I'm pretty sure.
Idk about rivens, but you're right about the Galvanized mods, ty for pointing out :)
Rivens do work (but only with Railjack still it seems). What doesn't also work are most arcanes. Only bonuses on arcanes like reload speed tend to function. This is the same with Equinox and Wukong for instance.
subbed for the 4th specter joke being us
2:14 aite aite u got me ✋🏽😌🤚🏽
i hear the elden beast theme at 10:00
nyx can also use mind control
Glad im not the only one who uses them
Subway Surfer comment made me chuckle :D
I was today years old i learned you can extract while the hostage is downed
@@Fipsh found out myself right there and then. Only works if the animation is still playing 😂
To be fair, they have been very well covered by other content creators and we are pretty aware of how underwhelming they are, with a few exceptions. Check the kengineer's videos for more detailed and scientifically robust videos on warframes' characters, weapones, etc.
The only one I ever use is the on call crew member with a zarr to afk stuff for me
Isn't Trinity a good specter? For giving you energie and healing you?
I'm always confused at this point 3:56 ...on the override option, I always get it wrong. it's kind of confusing and I still don't understand it. please explain, ty
Preserve keeps the same loadout, override uses your currently equipped one
unless they changed the skate from the enemy on map... isn't it at least immune to status?
have you ever seen grineer try to kill them? they can't do it.
unless they changed it.
Only specter i use is WISP- free bufs for all your alies and she have almost %100 uptime on buffs. I olso give her TENET GLAXION and KUVA NUKOR for free priming and freezing enemies. ( you can olso use ignis wrath for heat proks) .
Attack speed and movement speed is so good and free stun is olso nice.
And if i need energy i use prottea with equlibirum for infinite energy.
Metis on jupiter (normal), trigger the alarm, zap around with wukong(enveloping cloud augment for rescue target, subsume perspicasity for ez hacks), easy 2
I may be losing my mind, but is that elden ring music in the background
It sure is! Check out the channel linked in the description, they do great lofi stuff of well known and nostalgic games :)
So like, yea Dante overguard would be the obvious choice but it's not like you can control it so it's actually just topping up your overguard. Dante has a lot of skills to be able to use. How do you coax overguard out of a specter reliably?
Atm no other specter provides overguard, but this could change
F in chat for Caliban, to be fair though, his 3 is currently not worth talking about. Cheers to his rework
I alwways go on long survival alone with a porotea specter
Do the summoned enemies from Nekros's 4 not count as specters too?
@@HorizonsEdge18 Somewhat yes, I'll include them in the eventual follow up :)
dont forget our friend Kahl xDD he come with 2 more ALLIES and they HEAL u as well!!! he can be summon from the air support charges of the Skaut (you need to finish the new war quest and either buy it with plat or can be farm)
2:19 smooth, fine take it 😂
Take a shot every time he says specter
@@iamegg4688 On the house 🍺
Do the spectre use the mods loadout you had on when imprinting them? Like if i made a loadout with a rhino having max ability strength would that affect the spectre roar compared to if i imprinted a rhino with no mods equipped
No, mods are not used
Me maiming operator with umbra and my companion and Dante expected priming everything:
Suggestions for specters... for mirror defense nission? Wisp or else?
I want to calmly collect crystals on Titania and not think about defending the object. It's a pity to waste Ancient and Moa with Osprey. But for 1 object it's worth spending something from this
@@sundusky Trinity casts blessing which also works on defense targets, so that could be an option. Mix a stalker specter in too to draw some aggro and maybe that's enough :)
Corrupted lancer is also goated for defense missions with its area denial attack; I'd rank it third after healer and osprey for stationary objectives. Citrine is also underrated for defense missions as her 3 melts everything your specters so much as breathe on. It's a nice symmetry that she's one of the best frames to use in the mission she comes from.
Totally off-topic to the video but I like the green colour scheme you have put into your game UI. Any chance of me getting a copy how you set that up? I really want it that way too!
@@YourNeighborhoodDweller Might do a set up video soon! :)
Do you happen to know what causes specters to randomly spawn sometimes in missions?
This is rather rare, but I’ve definitely notices an uptick of this happening ever since crossplay was introduced, but I only ever really see them in endless missions or even sometimes in sanctum. This includes deep arch despite the no gear wheel modifier (including solo), and for the lore of me I’ve only ever run into a few people that have seen this happen.
Usually it spawns a Dante specter with random weapons, but I’ve seen a few oberons and mag specters too, and I think it might be cause by some networking thing when Xbox consoles host, but I thought I’d ask if you knew anything.
@@Super787B Very odd! If you also see this happening solo I'd have no idea what's going on
Wait, I’m not actually going crazy?
I almost had a stroke when I saw a Dante specter during a solo Deep Archimedean run last week lol
you can get specters from the orokin lab in the dojo
No, that's a Solar Rail relic from the older days of Warframe where you used to have to build specters to act as AI Warframes to defend your territories (old PvP stuff). It's not usable anymore.
Finally some realistic builds which I can build 1:19
Did anyone test a stalker specter in nightmare if any bug results in the specter dropping stalker loot on death?
@@A_Game_Zone I don't expect him to drop loot, but spaghetti code has done weird things before
It works.
@@MonsterEnergyDrinkerer Whaaaaaaaaaattt!
@@A_Game_Zone yeah, I farmed it out a few days ago. Got all the weapons and mods. Hotfixing is paused until Koumei so make the most of it. Do note that the loot doesn't spawn unless and until you drop another Stalker Spectre, so you won't get drops from your last use.
Lol that's fkn insane lmao
ok so this is why yalls are suddenly using spectres
The Roller Specter is actually solid isn´t it?
Like 9 Energy per second, that´s a Zenurik replacement.
and something else; i didn´t catch it in the Video; do augments work? For example to get a loot frame along with you, would Hydroid / Atlas / Korha be a working choice?
@@FabiTheSnake Sadly mods for the tenno specters don't work, so you can bring a loot buddy.
@@KeesieOilcorner they should Change that.
Would make solo-grinds SO much better.
From what I know the specters higher than vapor from rescues are useless. Is that right or did something change?
@@XPilotPlayer In terms of spamming them around yes, but if you want multiple options available to you without having to overwrite your vapors all the time and wait 8hours, the other ones can be handy, hence the general advise part in the video.
@@KeesieOilcorner Got it!
I put wisp on my vapor....turn out to be a trash 😂😂.....i though if imprint the specter as current loadout and that include all the mods we put on our loadout....its just the warframe without mods lol
You forgot Kahl
@@Multiply187 My brothers will never forgive this grave mistake