Changing the stiffness of the arms changes the fundamental frequency of the arm. This changes the speed at which a force can propagate through a part. This means softer arm gives a smoother loading curve on the tire which usually make you feel the car gained traction. But in reality it just added compliance and won’t force tire into dynamic friction as often. It will also reduce response but adds compliance to directions that the suspension movement can’t respond to.
@Ryan Harris Try it without the brass C in the rear. We have been running all alloy at the rear on Ray's & Andrew Selaggi's recommendation, it's actually better & has more rear grip. Too much weight at the rear can give it a pendulum feeling and make the rear end want to step out at corner exit. We all used it at the recent Keilor Invitational.
I'm running about the same setup, differences being: gullwing up front, white springs all corners. This video gets it right for outdoor low traction! Thanks for the setup info
How dialed can I be running an old RC10T3? I knocked the dust off it and put new electronics in it to make it go fast. (17.5T stock) I'm hoping to turn heads at the track with a vintage roller. It was your cleaning video and your tire removal with acetone that got me motivated to run again. Maybe if I turn wheel well enough I will drop that cash on a new roller.
Love your videos Ryan! I race with Ray at our home track in melbourne on a weekly basis. We have done lots of testing with the Standup transmission and it looks like it is working great for you aswell. Keep up the great work with your videos, they are awesome!😎🤘
I still run the B6D on both the high bite clay and loose dirt tracks. Car is very versatile. Love your video's, keep us in the loop with your SuperCup series. DC.
I am just getting back into the hobby after many years. After all the research I could do, I went with Hobby Wing for my electronics. I am using the pro version of the esc you have. I kinda wish I would have stepped down one size and got the one you have. I also went with the 10.5 motor. I hope I do not regret this. I am building the B6.1 Lite. Setting it up for outdoor and indoor clay tracks. I am building a couple different gearboxes to change out for these different tracks. I really like your video's and have now watched most of them.
yes. about the same difference as going to aluminum hubs but everywhere there's a gain there's a loss the lower CG believe helps the most. honestly the car feels about the same with the shocks upside down or on the factory way just when I push the car harder feels better upside down for me Plus get a little better lap times
Great Video. I myself run a TLR 22 4.0 and now im excited to try it when i found out my shock oils are the same as yours. I actually got it used from a friend for $100. currently my setup for tire is Holeshots/3ds in the rear and slidejobs(dirt oval tires) in the front
BK servos come from helis, which I have done for a while now. The company is owned by one of the better pilots over the years. I think they are a pretty good choice for cars. In helis they have a cult following but there is also a subset that refuses to use them. Thanks for the vid. Bummer about the monster max motor. ROAR sure keeps us buying more.
I had to Google the concept of a transponder! We never used those in my JRX2 racing days! It was someone's job to watch and record laps for each car. As it passed the starting line. That's why we had big white number stickers on the top and side of each car.
i gotta get back in R/C. Tunning and tweaking was my favorite part. Nitro or Bust. Had a bunch of Traxxas and some HPI back in the day. My very first hobby level Nitro car was the Duratrax Maximum ST. My Favorite with my Savage X that was re powered with something from Ofna, that thing had all the goodies and was an absolute track warrior when i was done
Ray would often run black rear springs (V1) and heavier front oils, I found that with 17.5 I could go down one notch from his oil setups (hes entering harder in mod). Ray experimented with drilling another inner hole on rear arms in b6 to give more leverage in low bite. Not sure if the b6.1 has this modification as standard now. Been out of racing for a year.
I know your an associated guy, but what are your suggestions for a Losi 22 2.0. I have the front end cockpit body and the rear motor standup transmission. My electrics don’t fit inside the body and I’m trying to hold more weight in the rear then the front, but I’m forced to move all of the weight to the front because of the size of the body. I’m really frustrated because I’m in the process of getting both my original Rc 10 and my Losi 22 into racing classes and both of them have the same problems. I don’t have much money to split between the two but do you have any ideas for a shorty pack setup like yours? Thanks for your opinion.
Your car look absolutely flawless. What's the manufacturer of those titanium screws & turnbuckles? Any chance you can get them for Yokomo's YZ2 as well? How do you get this transponder to be in white?
So would the B6D be the better choice? I have a race in two weeks on loose hard packed clay indoors. Seems like the traction is in between grooves always. I had the B6.1 Lite on the track last week with the lay down and slipper elimination and it was miserable. Was thinking layback and a slipper but didn’t think to go all the way to the standup and flat arms. Might seriously consider running the old car???
Have you experimented with rear shocks behind the arm vs in front? I now running them up front gives the car more rotation, but, I have always been curious as to how they compare in a loose, outdoor situation.
All my cars all old school Rc10 Goldpan buggy Team associated B4.1 Traxxas Slash 2wd yea it's newer but it's an older vehicle now I have a Tamiyas lunch box kit that's half way built that I've got to finish putting building I haven't watched your videos in a while buddy but I've gotta catch up with them soon there for a while i thought you were taking a brake cause I didn't see you posting anything there new for a while love your videos bro it's an insiders look to see what it takes to become pro and your getting there buddy keep up the good work and I need an update on a few new cars.
New to rc electric buggy I just purchased a b64d and wondering how race classes are set from watching video I think there’s a stock class which is basically stock everyone run same thing and then mod and here’s where I’m not sure I think the lower the motor number like 8.5 is faster then say a 12.5 do they set ur buggy in a class like 12.5 or 17.5 if that’s ur motor size. Loving watching your videos thank in advance for any info
I don’t see the links for the standup conversion anywhere? I would like to do this, but can’t seem to find them just all your cars and set up and tools and such.
Hi ryan I was just wondering if any of your videos cover shock setup, things like what changing the oil and springs does, changing the pistons, weather to use small bore or big bore shock ect... with some many options and new to it my mind is blown. keep up the great videos!
I have to admit, watching your videos as well as some of the other top content creators, has really got me thinking about returning to the hobby... especially since I now work about 10 minutes from Mills Pond (Gee, I wonder if ROAR will renew a 20-year-old membership number? 😂) With the introduction of the B6.1 versus 6.1D, I am totally confused. It was confusing enough seeing Associated’s detail sheet on the parts required for each version of the transmission setup (which depends on the version of the kit you purchase), but do you already have a video detailing the differences between each version of the kit? If not, I would really appreciate it as a topic suggestion if you could cover the subject. Great job on your content, and I’m looking forward to seeing more!
Ryan were you 'DIALED' then?! lol One day if you can make it to East Orange RC in Bithlo that would be great! This setup would be a perfect match to try it out at this track.
IMO mid motor outdoor is really fun, it forces you to drive on the edge of spinning out at every moment, and it's so satisfying to finally get it dialed in and you can even hear the tires scratching as you make the sweeping turns instead of parking and pulling out of turns like you would on a rear motor.
Hi great videos, just noticed you swapped out your original capacitor on your ESC with a two capacitor, is that because it's easier to mount or it performs better, thanks
Awesome video will try the stand up settings. In New Zealand at CountiesRC we have a lose dirt track so this vid is helpful. Could you do one for 4wd? Thanks
Where are you getting the b5 ball cups from. Everywhere I look in the uk and Europe says they are discontinued. Smart looking buggy, just put the stand up in my sct ready for our dirt nationals in April
Ryan Harris Very true. Again nice content and just awesome vids mixing it up with different themes. Thanks so much for giving your time for our enjoyment.
B6d has a stand-up, main difference with 6.1 standup is ability to run shocks forward which helps corner speed a lot while still keeping good rear traction :)
The worst thing they did was get rid of the 4-gear trans. I think they should bring it back, including on the laydown, and just drop the layback altogether. Standup and Laydown, both with 3 and 4-gear options. Even better if it's all in the same case and you literally just add/move the idlers around to change it.
Same shafts. The longer bodies allow more fluid volume, and also let you wind out the rod ends further for a longer effective shaft that doesn't bottom out inside the shock body. Hope that makes sense :)
Great videos & thank you for the knowledge! Have you tried the rc racing simulator VRC Pro? I just picked it up & it is pretty awesome. If you haven’t for some reason seen it before, check it out. Keep up the great work brother!
Trying a 4wd 13.5 car on a loose loamy track were i usually race 8 scal at only driven a 13.5 wheeler an carpet and the set ups on these little 10 scales is comply confusing
I wonder what my little fish think when I talk to the camera with a big bright light lol 🐠🐟
Ryan Harris where have you been I thought you were dead it’s been so long
@@jaxenanderson3804 still here man!
Show us ur tank
Hey man, what kind of shocks do you have in there.
Ryan Harris
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Ray Munday’s setups are fantastic on outdoor tracks! I ran one last year and it was super balanced in terms of overall handling, grip, and jumping.
Awesome! You race alot of outdoor I take it?
Changing the stiffness of the arms changes the fundamental frequency of the arm. This changes the speed at which a force can propagate through a part. This means softer arm gives a smoother loading curve on the tire which usually make you feel the car gained traction. But in reality it just added compliance and won’t force tire into dynamic friction as often. It will also reduce response but adds compliance to directions that the suspension movement can’t respond to.
@Ryan Harris Try it without the brass C in the rear. We have been running all alloy at the rear on Ray's & Andrew Selaggi's recommendation, it's actually better & has more rear grip. Too much weight at the rear can give it a pendulum feeling and make the rear end want to step out at corner exit. We all used it at the recent Keilor Invitational.
I'm running about the same setup, differences being: gullwing up front, white springs all corners. This video gets it right for outdoor low traction! Thanks for the setup info
How dialed can I be running an old RC10T3? I knocked the dust off it and put new electronics in it to make it go fast. (17.5T stock) I'm hoping to turn heads at the track with a vintage roller.
It was your cleaning video and your tire removal with acetone that got me motivated to run again. Maybe if I turn wheel well enough I will drop that cash on a new roller.
Love your videos Ryan! I race with Ray at our home track in melbourne on a weekly basis. We have done lots of testing with the Standup transmission and it looks like it is working great for you aswell. Keep up the great work with your videos, they are awesome!😎🤘
I still run the B6D on both the high bite clay and loose dirt tracks. Car is very versatile. Love your video's, keep us in the loop with your SuperCup series. DC.
I am just getting back into the hobby after many years. After all the research I could do, I went with Hobby Wing for my electronics. I am using the pro version of the esc you have. I kinda wish I would have stepped down one size and got the one you have. I also went with the 10.5 motor. I hope I do not regret this. I am building the B6.1 Lite. Setting it up for outdoor and indoor clay tracks. I am building a couple different gearboxes to change out for these different tracks. I really like your video's and have now watched most of them.
Just a newbie here; love how squared away all of your cars are. Not just cleanliness. i know it means a competitive advantage as well.
Thanks man! I try to keep them looking clean and simple ,👍
Buggy looks good man!!! Just put my rear shocks on upside down on my Astro setup and it's working great.
Hmm, never thought about that 🤔
lowers the center of gravity feel I can drive the car harder
@@performancedanny Wouldn't that make the arm action feel more sluggish due to the extra weight on the lower arm?
yes. about the same difference as going to aluminum hubs but everywhere there's a gain there's a loss the lower CG believe helps the most. honestly the car feels about the same with the shocks upside down or on the factory way just when I push the car harder feels better upside down for me Plus get a little better lap times
Great Video. I myself run a TLR 22 4.0 and now im excited to try it when i found out my shock oils are the same as yours. I actually got it used from a friend for $100. currently my setup for tire is Holeshots/3ds in the rear and slidejobs(dirt oval tires) in the front
BK servos come from helis, which I have done for a while now. The company is owned by one of the better pilots over the years. I think they are a pretty good choice for cars. In helis they have a cult following but there is also a subset that refuses to use them. Thanks for the vid.
Bummer about the monster max motor. ROAR sure keeps us buying more.
Ryan, thanks for posting about this outdoor setup from Ray. As soon as it dries out here in Socal, I get to try this setup on our outdoor track.
Do it! It's some good old fashioned fun in my opinion 😉
I had to Google the concept of a transponder! We never used those in my JRX2 racing days! It was someone's job to watch and record laps for each car. As it passed the starting line. That's why we had big white number stickers on the top and side of each car.
i gotta get back in R/C. Tunning and tweaking was my favorite part. Nitro or Bust. Had a bunch of Traxxas and some HPI back in the day. My very first hobby level Nitro car was the Duratrax Maximum ST.
My Favorite with my Savage X that was re powered with something from Ofna, that thing had all the goodies and was an absolute track warrior when i was done
Nice Video. As always Like the Fish tank in the back. Also can you do a video for the 8th scale buggy for a similar off road track. Thanks
I will try to get one of those done soon!
Ray would often run black rear springs (V1) and heavier front oils, I found that with 17.5 I could go down one notch from his oil setups (hes entering harder in mod). Ray experimented with drilling another inner hole on rear arms in b6 to give more leverage in low bite. Not sure if the b6.1 has this modification as standard now. Been out of racing for a year.
I know your an associated guy, but what are your suggestions for a Losi 22 2.0. I have the front end cockpit body and the rear motor standup transmission. My electrics don’t fit inside the body and I’m trying to hold more weight in the rear then the front, but I’m forced to move all of the weight to the front because of the size of the body. I’m really frustrated because I’m in the process of getting both my original Rc 10 and my Losi 22 into racing classes and both of them have the same problems. I don’t have much money to split between the two but do you have any ideas for a shorty pack setup like yours? Thanks for your opinion.
Ryan, Forgive me if I’m missing this, but I cannot seem to find the link for the carbon tall rear shock tower. Please help lol
Your car look absolutely flawless.
What's the manufacturer of those titanium screws & turnbuckles? Any chance you can get them for Yokomo's YZ2 as well?
How do you get this transponder to be in white?
So would the B6D be the better choice? I have a race in two weeks on loose hard packed clay indoors. Seems like the traction is in between grooves always. I had the B6.1 Lite on the track last week with the lay down and slipper elimination and it was miserable. Was thinking layback and a slipper but didn’t think to go all the way to the standup and flat arms. Might seriously consider running the old car???
Thanks for another excellent, informative video!
I’m building a Ryan Harris replica to race. I’m glad I waited on servo and motor I’ll be picking up these next week!
Nice! Post it up on Instagram and tag me!
I think I'm like your fish. Maybe the more I listen, the more it will make sense lol. Another great video, keep them coming 👍
The hidden reality is they are probably faster than me...
Have you experimented with rear shocks behind the arm vs in front? I now running them up front gives the car more rotation, but, I have always been curious as to how they compare in a loose, outdoor situation.
Rear setup would be nice. Would be nice if they did it like the 2.0 was.
Awesome vid Ryan, trying same principal with my RB7...wondering where u got the little 9gram brass weights for under the battery?
Hey mate. love the videos. just wondering where do you get the custom heat shrink cheers
Great video, what kind of battery plugs you have in the car?
Hey Ryan where did you get that Supreme wire wrap or is that just heat shrink that’s not completely heated up??
Great video 👍 really helps for me thanks
All my cars all old school Rc10 Goldpan buggy Team associated B4.1 Traxxas Slash 2wd yea it's newer but it's an older vehicle now I have a Tamiyas lunch box kit that's half way built that I've got to finish putting building I haven't watched your videos in a while buddy but I've gotta catch up with them soon there for a while i thought you were taking a brake cause I didn't see you posting anything there new for a while love your videos bro it's an insiders look to see what it takes to become pro and your getting there buddy keep up the good work and I need an update on a few new cars.
New to rc electric buggy I just purchased a b64d and wondering how race classes are set from watching video I think there’s a stock class which is basically stock everyone run same thing and then mod and here’s where I’m not sure I think the lower the motor number like 8.5 is faster then say a 12.5 do they set ur buggy in a class like 12.5 or 17.5 if that’s ur motor size. Loving watching your videos thank in advance for any info
Also, do the longer shock bodies require a longer shock shaft?
I don’t see the links for the standup conversion anywhere? I would like to do this, but can’t seem to find them just all your cars and set up and tools and such.
Hi ryan I was just wondering if any of your videos cover shock setup, things like what changing the oil and springs does, changing the pistons, weather to use small bore or big bore shock ect... with some many options and new to it my mind is blown. keep up the great videos!
Check out Dr Mosfett for what adjustments do for your car. He explains it from and engineers perspective but in plain English.
I have to admit, watching your videos as well as some of the other top content creators, has really got me thinking about returning to the hobby... especially since I now work about 10 minutes from Mills Pond (Gee, I wonder if ROAR will renew a 20-year-old membership number? 😂)
With the introduction of the B6.1 versus 6.1D, I am totally confused. It was confusing enough seeing Associated’s detail sheet on the parts required for each version of the transmission setup (which depends on the version of the kit you purchase), but do you already have a video detailing the differences between each version of the kit? If not, I would really appreciate it as a topic suggestion if you could cover the subject. Great job on your content, and I’m looking forward to seeing more!
Will these part and this setup work on the new B6.3? I don't think there are changes to motor and trans, but could be wrong
Great overview on setup!
Ryan were you 'DIALED' then?! lol
One day if you can make it to East Orange RC in Bithlo that would be great! This setup would be a perfect match to try it out at this track.
Hi Ryan
Hope your good.
Can I ask what that 2wd dune buggy is on the shelf? It looks so cool!
can you set the list the item must we buy for convert from B63D layback to standup please...
Would rear mount be better than standup?
He's lying about his setup to throw the competition off 😂😂😂😂 good vid man
Very informative as always! Will you be uploading the JConcepts National at Beach RC video soon?
Hey Ryan, i got a question for you, dou you use 12- or 13AWG cables on your XR10 Stock spec?
I cant find the parts that you have linked for this video do to i have a b6.2
Is rear motor still a thing.lol #stilloldschoolracer
Always in our hearts ❤️
IMO mid motor outdoor is really fun, it forces you to drive on the edge of spinning out at every moment, and it's so satisfying to finally get it dialed in and you can even hear the tires scratching as you make the sweeping turns instead of parking and pulling out of turns like you would on a rear motor.
Who's battery bullets are those? Have the 1s that came with my Redline battery 5mm & not the easiest to unplug
Thanks buddy this video helps a lot!
Great video, any video for astro please?
Great video Ryan, I had the privilege of watching ray race this set up. What under battery weights are you using there?
Great! Really helped me a lot. Btw, love that shirt!
Ryan, Where do we buy those sweet Supreme heat shrink wraps?
I know it is is kinda late but do you plan on running a truggy
Hi great videos, just noticed you swapped out your original capacitor on your ESC with a two capacitor, is that because it's easier to mount or it performs better, thanks
Paranoia mostly haha I just know that it's easier replace a blown cap than it is a whole ESC
@@RyanHarrisRC sorry, misunderstood, did you notice any difference with performance by replacing the original single capacitor with a double capacitor
Also forgot to ask where do u get you name decals at. I don’t think there painted on.
Where did you get that battery mount for your stand up configuration?
I’ve been waiting for this video
Awesome video will try the stand up settings. In New Zealand at CountiesRC we have a lose dirt track so this vid is helpful. Could you do one for 4wd? Thanks
Hi mate, here is a good starting setup for the B64 outdoors :) Ray m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=752906395052979&id=596568894020064
Where are you getting the b5 ball cups from. Everywhere I look in the uk and Europe says they are discontinued.
Smart looking buggy, just put the stand up in my sct ready for our dirt nationals in April
I stocked up a while ago and am trying to not wear them out too fast haha
Nice Vid. Good suggestions, although I think I’d just drag out my old B6D and make a few adjustments. Accomplish the same?
That would be a great option! The B6.1 looks like it has a greater rear weight bias with the location of the motor vs the B6
Very true. Again nice content and just awesome videos mixing it up with different themes. Thanks so much for giving your time for our enjoyment. 🎬
Ryan Harris Very true. Again nice content and just awesome vids mixing it up with different themes. Thanks so much for giving your time for our enjoyment.
B6d has a stand-up, main difference with 6.1 standup is ability to run shocks forward which helps corner speed a lot while still keeping good rear traction :)
Raymond Munday good call out!
you Always come up with interesting videos, keep it up!
I try my best haha 🤙
What is the supreme thing on your car
Thanks for the setup info
Great video buddy
With all the weight at the back, wouldn't it be better to run a rear motored car?
#LayBackNation
I will have one ready in my box just for you ❤️
Looks good an great info keep them vids coming
Will do man!
I was wondering what size are the idler gears in the standup 4gear and also would they the gears fit in the b6 4gear? Stand-up
I'm looking at running a b6.1 for street eliminator. What transmission should I look at running for no prep on asphalt?
What are you using the hold your cars on the wall behind you?
Just a thought, make a video of the essentials you need you have with you when you go to a race, to be prepared.
Always good info in your videos brother
Thanks man!
@@RyanHarrisRC 🤙🤙🤙🤙
What do you thing about the sr mode of the 7px and getting a sr compatible servo.
Good luck this season:)
Will this work on an RC10SC6.4??
Does this set up apply to your stadium truck?
The worst thing they did was get rid of the 4-gear trans. I think they should bring it back, including on the laydown, and just drop the layback altogether. Standup and Laydown, both with 3 and 4-gear options. Even better if it's all in the same case and you literally just add/move the idlers around to change it.
Hey Ryan- If the customers have the B6.1D kit, they already have the tall tower and 31mm rear shock bodies, no need to purchase them!
Was that the case with the b6d as well?
@@ryanbusscher1684 no, it was an option on the b6d.
Do you happen to have a setup sheet similar to this for a losi 22 5.0?
When using the longer shock bodies, do you use the same shafts or do you need to get longer ones as well?
Same shafts. The longer bodies allow more fluid volume, and also let you wind out the rod ends further for a longer effective shaft that doesn't bottom out inside the shock body. Hope that makes sense :)
Is this setup good for a outdoor wet track?
It's good for anything loose and on the bumpy side!
Lots of different brands like a cocktail
Do you run a motor fan?
Does the b6.1 comes with the stand up gear box.
How is the Revtech?
Great videos & thank you for the knowledge! Have you tried the rc racing simulator VRC Pro? I just picked it up & it is pretty awesome. If you haven’t for some reason seen it before, check it out. Keep up the great work brother!
@ryan harris what body is that in the video??
What wing do you run?
First
Hopefully in my next race!
What is the supreme thang called
Ryan, your linked ESC doesn't match what you said in the video.
Trying a 4wd 13.5 car on a loose loamy track were i usually race 8 scal at only driven a 13.5 wheeler an carpet and the set ups on these little 10 scales is comply confusing
They take some getting used to for sure!
Can you do a video like this for your truck
I have a stand up transmission on my b5m and it still oversteers on carpet
Layback all the time, just tune the suspension package
Where is a good place to race in St Petersburg or Tampa or Bradenton or something
SS hobbies and raceway in tampa. racing every sunday
SS Raceway!
I luv u