The video I've been waiting for! Thanks for this. I myself am trying to decide whether to do a more conservative or aggressive drop since I love the look of a more aggressive drop but honestly don't really want to shell out the money for a camber kit... might just have to do that though lol. Looking forward to your next video of the end result!
It is a minimal drop (but still noticeable). We’ll see how much the drop has on the alignment first, then I’ll decide on the camber kit. Thanks for the support.
Can't wait to see the result of this on your next video. I have the 2018 touring model and have been really debating on to either get the Proline or Sportline from Eibach.
Hey man great video! Quick question though, i am looking to get the eibach sportline springs , do i have to also buy aftermarket endlinks or have to buy a rear camber kit in order for the springs to work with no issues ?
I’m still using the OEM endlinks without issue, but it certainly wouldn’t hurt. With such a modest drop I haven’t experienced any visible abnormal tire wear, however I do rotate my tires every 5,000 miles. With that said, my alignment is out of spec, but not by much. Rear camber arms certainly would help, especially if you’re going lower and also depending on your wheel specs.
I’m still using the OEM endlinks without issue, but it certainly wouldn’t hurt. With such a modest drop I haven’t experienced any visible abnormal tire wear, however I do rotate my tires every 5,000 miles. With that said, my alignment is out of spec, but not by much. Rear camber arms certainly would help, especially if you’re going lower and also depending on your wheel specs.
Thank for the insight! One more question, are you supposed to cut the bumpstop on rear shocks as well? Or do you only cut the bumpstops at the top mounts for the front struts assembly?
@kevintabares3085 it’s been a while, I don’t recall. But if you follow the video, and reference the instructions that come with them, you should be good 👍
They are still installed - and I’m enjoying them as much as when I first put them on! I haven’t been tempted to switch them out, and think they’re a great match for the OEM Touring shocks/struts 👍😁
Hard to tell without being there to hear it and feel it. However, if the clunking wasn’t there before the install, it’s most likely from a loose nut / bolt - go back and retighten everything to spec. If the noise is still present, check your swaybar connections as they may now be too tight from the lowering. Good luck 👍
@TheLemonFactor I love it! I like how the drop is not too low but just low enough to be noticed. Should I get an alignment done now or wait a couple days?
Love your videos you make it to easy!!! I have the EX-l and just put some light weight wheels and high performance tires on using same size as oem(225/50/17). The new tires are amazing in performance and handling when compared to the original Michelin Tire that have very hard compound. Now to my question since I'm running a slightly smaller tire in diameter(about .6" shorter then your stock tire 235/35/19 like the Touring) I decided to go with the Megan lowering springs to help get that gap closed in some more. I watched your video on the different springs and great video on that. After I swap to the Megan springs I'm going to put the oem wheels and tires back on and ride a few hundred miles to let everything to Settle In. Now the to the question in your opinion should I go with and install the rear camber arms because the Megan springs are lower then the Eibach springs? Thanks for any info John
Thank you for the support, John. 👍. Good question and under your circumstances I would recommend installing a rear camber kit in order to get your alignment in order.
I will order one now and thanks to getting back to me. Since after the long term test I see your Eibach setting some more and got lower. I guess I can use my Longacre camber gauge to check before and after spring install to see how much it did change. Just wondering how much factory adjust is in there, oh well that is a different problem. Also it was nice see the spring comparison on the spring rates without having to do the research my self!
Still waiting on the rear adjustable camber arms to get here, oh well I guess I will install the JB4 and lowering and put stock wheels and tire on. Thanks again for your quick response back to me. Oh I am going to break out the Longacre digital camber gauge just to check before and after. Hope the batteries still work in it😁
A little off subject but I saw them in your video, are you contemplating changing your brakes? I have felt that with the horsepower increase I might need to increase my stopping power!
After the springs settle, I’ll have an alignment done, and I’ll see how close to spec I can get. If I need to, then I’ll purchase the camber kit, but I want to wait and see food it’s really necessary.
Although there were some minor changes in 2021, I don’t believe the suspension was changed. However, to be certain of fitment I’d recommend checking with the spring manufacturer you’re considering.
Hey! So I stripped the hex key hole in the front shock trying to take it apart. Would there be any way to change the spring after that happened? I also have the touring as well and I was wondering if I got Coilovers instead would I be able to get rid of the suspension warning by using my ktuner?
There are two manufacturers that sell modules so you can run coilovers with the Tourings adaptive suspension, but I can’t remember off the top of my head and I believe all the module does is prevent you from getting a dash light. You’re still going to lose your adaptive suspension capability 🤷♂️
@@TheLemonFactor Do you suppose I could put the spring clamps on while the shock is still on the car and loosen the center nut from the hole at the top with an impact? Hopefully that makes sense. First time working on suspension and wondering if that would work
Almost happend to me today but I went to menards and grabbed some cheap T style hex long reach set…if your having trouble getting it started use the impact with the hex key to break it loose first then use the hex key after
Recommended as your camber will be out of spec. However, with my conservative drop, it wasn’t too bad, and the tires show no signs of uneven wear with regular tire rotations 🤷♂️
@@TheLemonFactor that's exactly what I wanted to hear. Near spec is good enough for me. Most my lowered cars aren't ever 100% alignment wise, but have never given me any problems either.
I’m still letting the springs settle and driving it as much as I can, but so far 👍. I’ll have a video published on Friday going over my initial feedback.
Only if needed. This is a very conservative drop. I’m going to let the springs settle then get an alignment. If I’m too out of spec I probably will get a camber kit.
@@TheLemonFactor ok. You might want to reconsidered putting in the camber kit first then alignment so you won't have to pay twice. Keep it up. Love your videos. I myself have a 2018 accord sport 2.0 and your videos are very informative 👌
@@TheLemonFactor I did, and thank you for that. I only saw where you cut the front, and wasn't sure about the back. I already installed the springs and didn't cut the back. Dang it! I will have to do it this weekend. Thank you.
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What would you say shop time should be on installing springs? I called a performance shop and they were talking 4-5 hours @ $115.00 hr. I was like no fucking way. Wow I could do them in 2 hours. They are a professional shop. I don't get it.
I’ve heard that most places are quoting 4hrs of labor time, which is unfortunate 🤷♂️. Another reason why I like to do it myself - many times what I save in labor ends up paying for the parts.
@@TheLemonFactor I hear you there, I plan on ordering the spring compressors, and the passthrough socket set. About 60 bucks. I have everything else. ;)
Agreed. Looking forward to driving impressions! I’m not too concerned about esthetics of drop. Curious about firmness of suspension. But I like the way you are doing it incrementally to isolate each improvement. 👍🏻
Nope, nope and nope. If you care about your suspension and especially warranty. Don’t do this on the Touring with the adaptive dampers. This guy and others are not the ones paying the bill when the suspension issues start happening. And you will definitely have them over time. Sport models and below are fine since they don’t have the adaptive dampers.
The video I've been waiting for! Thanks for this. I myself am trying to decide whether to do a more conservative or aggressive drop since I love the look of a more aggressive drop but honestly don't really want to shell out the money for a camber kit... might just have to do that though lol. Looking forward to your next video of the end result!
It is a minimal drop (but still noticeable). We’ll see how much the drop has on the alignment first, then I’ll decide on the camber kit. Thanks for the support.
Can't wait to see the result of this on your next video. I have the 2018 touring model and have been really debating on to either get the Proline or Sportline from Eibach.
It’s been about 3 weeks now and I’m very happy with how the drop looks, and the ride while noticeably firmer is very sporty without being harsh. 👍
@@TheLemonFactor Do you have a video to show the car now dropped?
I do. There is a follow up video in which I wrap things up. Checkout the channel / Honda Accord play list. 👍
Thanks for the video gonna use it when I get my springs lol
Glad you found it helpful. 👍 let me know how the install goes. Good luck.
Hey man great video! Quick question though, i am looking to get the eibach sportline springs , do i have to also buy aftermarket endlinks or have to buy a rear camber kit in order for the springs to work with no issues ?
I’m still using the OEM endlinks without issue, but it certainly wouldn’t hurt. With such a modest drop I haven’t experienced any visible abnormal tire wear, however I do rotate my tires every 5,000 miles. With that said, my alignment is out of spec, but not by much. Rear camber arms certainly would help, especially if you’re going lower and also depending on your wheel specs.
I’m still using the OEM endlinks without issue, but it certainly wouldn’t hurt. With such a modest drop I haven’t experienced any visible abnormal tire wear, however I do rotate my tires every 5,000 miles. With that said, my alignment is out of spec, but not by much. Rear camber arms certainly would help, especially if you’re going lower and also depending on your wheel specs.
Thank for the insight! One more question, are you supposed to cut the bumpstop on rear shocks as well? Or do you only cut the bumpstops at the top mounts for the front struts assembly?
@kevintabares3085 it’s been a while, I don’t recall. But if you follow the video, and reference the instructions that come with them, you should be good 👍
I have a 2020 exl with 245/35zr20 tires,and I just ordered a sport line kit,did I messed up? I should of gotten pro instead?
do you think two guys with a bit of automotive knowledge could feasibly do this in their drive way or if i should bring it to a shop
I would think so. How do you feel after watching the install video?
how much did you tighten the nut on the "Top Mount"? I see you tighten it with the ratchet but did you end up using a Impact gun?
Sorry, if I didn’t mention in the video, I don’t recall 🤷♂️. However I did not use an impact gun.
Hey man great video. You know where I can get lowering springs for a 17 pilot. Thanks
Thank you. I’m sorry, but I don’t. I’d recommend checking out some of the Honda specific forums such as Honda Tech.
Is the rear camber kit required from
Chad, I know it's been over 2 years since this video. What is your opinion of these springs? (assuming that you still have them installed.
They are still installed - and I’m enjoying them as much as when I first put them on! I haven’t been tempted to switch them out, and think they’re a great match for the OEM Touring shocks/struts 👍😁
I just installed some of these springs yesterday now im getting a clunking noise in the front passenger side, and idea why that might be?
Hard to tell without being there to hear it and feel it. However, if the clunking wasn’t there before the install, it’s most likely from a loose nut / bolt - go back and retighten everything to spec. If the noise is still present, check your swaybar connections as they may now be too tight from the lowering. Good luck 👍
@TheLemonFactor thanks allot! So I resolved the issue. It was due to the sway bar end link not reinstalled properly and tightened to spec.
@user-bj7fs1zi8b that’s great 👍. Glad it worked out for you. Let me know what you think of them?
@TheLemonFactor I love it! I like how the drop is not too low but just low enough to be noticed. Should I get an alignment done now or wait a couple days?
Glad to hear it. Enjoy 👍
I figured you would’ve had a strut tower brace by now too?
No current plans for a strut tower brace, but maybe 🤔 something to consider for the future.
Is this the same method if I'm doing it on an 2020 si coupe? Nice video
I cannot confirm, but I would imagine it to be a very similar approach.
Love your videos you make it to easy!!! I have the EX-l and just put some light weight wheels and high performance tires on using same size as oem(225/50/17). The new tires are amazing in performance and handling when compared to the original Michelin Tire that have very hard compound.
Now to my question since I'm running a slightly smaller tire in diameter(about .6" shorter then your stock tire 235/35/19 like the Touring) I decided to go with the Megan lowering springs to help get that gap closed in some more. I watched your video on the different springs and great video on that. After I swap to the Megan springs I'm going to put the oem wheels and tires back on and ride a few hundred miles to let everything to Settle In. Now the to the question in your opinion should I go with and install the rear camber arms because the Megan springs are lower then the Eibach springs?
Thanks for any info
John
Thank you for the support, John. 👍. Good question and under your circumstances I would recommend installing a rear camber kit in order to get your alignment in order.
I will order one now and thanks to getting back to me. Since after the long term test I see your Eibach setting some more and got lower. I guess I can use my Longacre camber gauge to check before and after spring install to see how much it did change. Just wondering how much factory adjust is in there, oh well that is a different problem.
Also it was nice see the spring comparison on the spring rates without having to do the research my self!
Without having a rear camber kit, you will not have the ability to adjust the rear camber on this car.
Still waiting on the rear adjustable camber arms to get here, oh well I guess I will install the JB4 and lowering and put stock wheels and tire on. Thanks again for your quick response back to me.
Oh I am going to break out the Longacre digital camber gauge just to check before and after. Hope the batteries still work in it😁
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Is it safe to put an air intake on a 2022 Honda Accord? I did so but the check engine light came on.
A little off subject but I saw them in your video, are you contemplating changing your brakes? I have felt that with the horsepower increase I might need to increase my stopping power!
I have, but haven’t seen an upgrade that I think is worth it. 🤷♂️
Just wondering many complaint bout the Eibach pro kit causes the suspension on the front higher compare to the rear? May I know what's the reason?
Hello... How long would you say the full install takes? not counting time to film. Thank you in advance.
Hmmm, good question. I’d say around 3hrs for the first time novice, assuming no issues.
I have 2.0touring to but when im trying to purchase the eibach lowering springs and camber. My question is did you install with camber kit?
After the springs settle, I’ll have an alignment done, and I’ll see how close to spec I can get. If I need to, then I’ll purchase the camber kit, but I want to wait and see food it’s really necessary.
I have a 2021 sport accord can I use lowering spring from a 2020 accord sport? Thank you any info would help.
Although there were some minor changes in 2021, I don’t believe the suspension was changed. However, to be certain of fitment I’d recommend checking with the spring manufacturer you’re considering.
what size pass through socket is needed?
17mm. Just measured cuz I’m gonna do mine.
Thanks! Was wondering the same! 17 it is!
I just received my eibach springs, do you have to cut the rear bump stop aswell?
As the install was a while ago, I don't recall, but follow the install video and you'll be good.
were your strut boots attached to something at the bottom? Or just the top?
Hey! So I stripped the hex key hole in the front shock trying to take it apart. Would there be any way to change the spring after that happened?
I also have the touring as well and I was wondering if I got Coilovers instead would I be able to get rid of the suspension warning by using my ktuner?
There are two manufacturers that sell modules so you can run coilovers with the Tourings adaptive suspension, but I can’t remember off the top of my head and I believe all the module does is prevent you from getting a dash light. You’re still going to lose your adaptive suspension capability 🤷♂️
@@TheLemonFactor Do you suppose I could put the spring clamps on while the shock is still on the car and loosen the center nut from the hole at the top with an impact? Hopefully that makes sense. First time working on suspension and wondering if that would work
It’s difficult for me to give advice as I’m not sure what’s going on, and would have to see it 🤷♂️
Almost happend to me today but I went to menards and grabbed some cheap T style hex long reach set…if your having trouble getting it started use the impact with the hex key to break it loose first then use the hex key after
@@TheLemonFactori have an 2.0 touring as well would swapping out just the springs affect the adaptive suspension?
Would these instructions work for 9th generation sedan?
I don’t know as I don’t have a 9th gen. 🤷♂️ However, I’m sure the concept is very similar.
No new camber arms arms required for the rear?
Recommended as your camber will be out of spec. However, with my conservative drop, it wasn’t too bad, and the tires show no signs of uneven wear with regular tire rotations 🤷♂️
@@TheLemonFactor that's exactly what I wanted to hear. Near spec is good enough for me. Most my lowered cars aren't ever 100% alignment wise, but have never given me any problems either.
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Did you need a rear camber kit?
I’ll see how they settle and how far out of spec I am. I may be able to get away without it 🤷♂️
@@TheLemonFactor how does your Accord handle now? Do you notice an improvement in cornering? I know you have rear sway bar as well.
I’m still letting the springs settle and driving it as much as I can, but so far 👍. I’ll have a video published on Friday going over my initial feedback.
So you have a rear strut bar already before you put the lowering springs ?
I have the Eibach rear sway bar, which was installed before the springs.
@@TheLemonFactor thanks I have a 2018 2.0 sport was thinking same set up..
So far I’m liking it - noticeable improvement in handling without being harsh.
Hi Chad, what did you use to cut the bump stops?
I don't recall with confidence, but I believe I used a fine-toothed hand saw.
Was wondering if you're going to add camber kit?
Only if needed. This is a very conservative drop. I’m going to let the springs settle then get an alignment. If I’m too out of spec I probably will get a camber kit.
@@TheLemonFactor ok. You might want to reconsidered putting in the camber kit first then alignment so you won't have to pay twice. Keep it up. Love your videos. I myself have a 2018 accord sport 2.0 and your videos are very informative 👌
Thanks for the support and positive comments 👍
Did you cut the bump stops on the rear when you did this?
Per Eibachs instructions, I did. You can see all the install details in my install video - checkout the channel for the play list 👍
@@TheLemonFactor I did, and thank you for that. I only saw where you cut the front, and wasn't sure about the back. I already installed the springs and didn't cut the back. Dang it! I will have to do it this weekend. Thank you.
Nice
It turned out pretty good as you’ll see next week 😁
@@TheLemonFactor Have you scraped that front spoiler yet?
🤣 yes!
What’s the benefit of lowering car?
Low profile look
Does lowering the car like this void your warranty?
No warranty only gets voided if you touch inside the cars engine
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Do you know if this process is the same as a 2012 accord coupe
🤷♂️
What would you say shop time should be on installing springs? I called a performance shop and they were talking 4-5 hours @ $115.00 hr. I was like no fucking way. Wow I could do them in 2 hours. They are a professional shop. I don't get it.
I’ve heard that most places are quoting 4hrs of labor time, which is unfortunate 🤷♂️. Another reason why I like to do it myself - many times what I save in labor ends up paying for the parts.
@@TheLemonFactor I hear you there, I plan on ordering the spring compressors, and the passthrough socket set. About 60 bucks. I have everything else. ;)
Good luck 👍. I’d love to hear how the install turns out and what you think of the springs.
Did you also cut the rear bump stop?
A before and after photo would have been nice
There’s a follow up video - checkout the channel playlist.
You really didn't show the end product ???
“That’s all, for now...” - you’ll have to wait for next week’s video to see how it turned out and my feedback. 🤷♂️ The video’s long enough as it is.
@@TheLemonFactor Lol ....ok
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Agreed. Looking forward to driving impressions! I’m not too concerned about esthetics of drop. Curious about firmness of suspension. But I like the way you are doing it incrementally to isolate each improvement. 👍🏻
Nope, nope and nope. If you care about your suspension and especially warranty. Don’t do this on the Touring with the adaptive dampers. This guy and others are not the ones paying the bill when the suspension issues start happening. And you will definitely have them over time. Sport models and below are fine since they don’t have the adaptive dampers.