He was moody with her because the Tyler personality was the one sleeping with her. The one she "fell for." Basically he was jealous of that part of himself.
there are sooooo many clues throughout the movie, both big and small, that on subsequent viewings you think to yourself "man, how the FUCK did I miss all these clues the first time I watched this??" :p there are the obvious ones like "I know this because Tyler knows this" or "Tyler's words coming out of my mouth" or "I knew the story even before he told it", but there are also more subtle clues, like when theyre on the subway or bus or whatever it was (cant remember now) and the guy is pushing past them, he only actually touches/pushes Ed Norton, not Brad Pitt. Lots and lots of clues, in almost every single scene.
What makes it even funnier: When they finished making the movie, the studio came back with notes. Among other things, they pointed out errors that they wanted fixed. They weren't errors, they were the clues. So if you feel stupid for missing them, imagine how much stupider you have to be to catch the clues, and still completely miss the point.
4:30 I have had insomnia, actually around the time this came out. It was really profound to me to see a movie talk about these problems so succinctly. I would not wish insomnia on my worst enemy. You're like a zombie cuz your brain doesn't have enough power to function. I went from being a straight A student to failing in one year.
Oh wow! Do you know what may have triggered, if anything? Don’t feel obligated to share too much information, I know this is an open platform. But thanks for sharing, it does not seem like a pleasant experience.
During the sequence where it showed all the support groups Narrator and Marla were going to, I always thought it was funny that not only were they the only two White people in the sickle cell support group, everyone else there was eyeing the both of them with the exact same distrust and suspicion he'd been eyeing Marla with. Like, it does a rapid montage of all the different meetings they attend, showing Narrator just burning holes into Marla's head in anger that she was invading his space as a faker. But in the last clip of that montage, they're in the sickle cell recovery group. Here, *the entire room is looking at both of them* with the exact same outrage he was showing her, fuming over the both of them being there since they were White people in a sickle cell recovery group. LOL
4:27 you catching all the flashes xD good on you not many actually even catch it ) 33:36 smart observation i didn't get that one the first watch xD smart girl ) 43:40 loved watching my favorite film with you great reaction video loved it x)
45:08 he shot himself through the jaw, but the mental act of pulling the trigger was what he needed to do to mentally signal to himself that he didn't need Brad's Tyler anymore and killed him off.
The flashes you see at the beginning are all of Tyler. He brought Marla to the building in order to kill her before destroying all those buildings, but stopped it by shooting himself in the face; signifying that he finally accepts what his alter-ego has done as a part of himself.
(Spoiler) When he shoots himself in the mouth the bullet went through the back part of his left cheek, exiting out in front of the ear. So he just fucked up his cheek and possibly teeth
The only question to ask is how would anyone in their right mind follow a man who is fighting himself? What the film shows necessarily happens in the head of the narrator.
humans can actually survive with a large portion of their brain missing, and even live normal lives. as long as all the parts are still there in at least one of the two hemispheres of the brain, it will compensate for damage done to the other side. and if there's not too much bleeding you can survive without any damage to cognitive functions. the most important thing if you survive a shot to the brain after stopping the bleeding is to try and stay conscious dont fall asleep or you'll go into a coma indefinitely.
I have a long train ride and this film is criminally misinterpreted by a lot of people. Despite using split personalities as a tool, I think the film is entirely about masculinity and the toxic things men do to "prove" their masculinity to the world. Most men do this kind of stuff to one extent or another. Masculinity has been framed as an incredibly fragile thing when you think about it. This film came out in 1999. A time when simply getting a good hair cut and dressing nicely would get you labelled as "metro sexual" i.e. one step from being "gay." So this downtrodden guy who feels powerless decides to "get tough." This is where a lot of guys lose the plot. Tyler Durden is a sick, fucked up, evil guy. His brand of "tough love" is just abuse disguised in a way that allows him to have plausible deniability. Tyler Durden is the manliest man in fight club. Right? And what does he spend his time doing? Bullying his "friend" into dozens of different crimes, many of them violent and traumatic. The fighting itself is of course the number one way a man can "prove" his masculinity. We see this in both good ways and bad ways. How many romances in stories are started off by the male love interest physically fighting off people attacking a woman. Here though we see the ugly alter ego, and what I think is the truth behind even the "good fights" in a lot of films. Which is that fighting is simply all about other men, and the film takes that out and distills it to it's essence. You fight and you fight. Doesn't matter who the other guy is. It's not about him, it's about all the other other guys who see you and respect you for it. Why do they respect you? Because you've shown that on some level you're willing to die to prove your masculinity. Being willing to die for something shows that that thing is sacred. Supremely important. What do people die for? Religions. Deeply held beliefs. Their family. But also masculinity. And this happens every day in every stupid bar fight, adultery homicide and gang killing. And this is all historically true. The bit people seem to miss is that the film doesn't endorse this view. While loads of guys are idolising fight club and Tyler Durden they're missing the point. He's a psychopath criminal who is deeply deeply toxic. But men get mixed up in the idea of being the sort of man who is willing to die any day, and therefore is the type of man who does whatever he wants whenever he wants. It sounds empowering in the abstract. But the film is showing you that Tyler Durden is the result. In all likelihood he'd be dead in a year or two. And for what? He's running a loose gang of random dudes who's sole purpose in life is to beat on each other once a week. Now let's talk about race. Because everything I said here is applicable to all those movies set in the hood where one of the friends gets shot. But as usual, films like fight club get to be universal classics while those black films are considered "niche." This is overly long already and I'm tired but I just felt it needed pointing out that people don't often give black people with these kinds of issues the same kind of in depth character study and it's a shame. Things are changing but slowly. Where is the film like this for beaten down white collar black dudes lol. And the key point there is for it to be not necessarily about the race aspect of the film, but about the masculinity side of things. That's the bit that is neglected.
The negative of getting a charismatic guy to play a charismatic role. People latching onto the antagonist always seem to happen with that combination to some extreme or another. While I agree with you, my takeaway is more focused on the drug like effects of treating depression with pain and violence more than the hyper-masculinity even though it's also there.
Lol, as a science nerd, theres nothing wrong with using water to dilute the lye. You'd need s shit tonne of vinegar anyway and water is cheaper and freely available on tap. Advice recommends not to use vinegar even though the chemistry checks out.
Split is another good multi personality movie but it's part 2 of a trilogy so it's Unbreakable, Split, then Glass. Worth a watch and reaction (Unbreakable is freaking awesome)
I mean I'm not sure if you understood the message of the film. Perhaps it's because you've heard things from the MEN who also didn't understand the film and think it's "cool". But it's not actually celebrating toxic masculinity, it's more of a bleak warning. But people often miss that because it's subtle and not super didactic with it's messaging. I can see how it would be off putting for women in many ways. But on some level it should be interesting because it's an exploration of the issues men bring to their relationships with women. Just like men need to watch more films aimed at women, I think attempting to understand fight club is a good idea.
@@IshtarNikeof course, that's not even a deep or profound textual reading, our main character even says he's part of a dangerous terroristic organization and begs others to help him stop it. I'm talking about loneliness and dissatisfaction that's developed around being a man in the modern age, our reactor here couldn't understand why the main character was so depressed and aimless at the start and I would say men at the time and especially now get that RIGHT away. Also wanting to prove yourself physically to and around other men, being okay with being dirty and physically uncomfortable also was alien to her. And that's fine btw
"the female brain" lmfao that's not a thing. gender is a social construct, we're all humans. this was written by a gay man to critique misogyny and capitalism and you freaks who don't understand the first thing about media analysis are like "yesss, this what being a MAN is like". and you say that with zero self awareness as though capitalism isn't destroying every aspect of our lives, INCLUDING WOMEN'S.
there's literally a woman character going through the exact same thing as the main character and yall are still like "loneliness is unique to men, we're too different to get each other. that's what this story is about" like 🤦🏼♀
Disassociate identity disorder DID is what the narrator has and Tyler ain't the only other identity, Bob and marla are also identify a most of project mayhem are probly identify a with the feels real people having no clue whats going on
Lots of people react to Marla in the film. The first time she walks into the testicular cancer meeting, everyone turns to look at her when she asks if it's the cancer meeting.
After they flipped the car, Ed Norton gets pulled out of the driver's side.
I never noticed that. This film only gets better with time
yes, he climbed to it, the car must have been sideways he was on the passenger side ready to make it to the driver side
He was moody with her because the Tyler personality was the one sleeping with her. The one she "fell for." Basically he was jealous of that part of himself.
there are sooooo many clues throughout the movie, both big and small, that on subsequent viewings you think to yourself "man, how the FUCK did I miss all these clues the first time I watched this??" :p
there are the obvious ones like "I know this because Tyler knows this" or "Tyler's words coming out of my mouth" or "I knew the story even before he told it", but there are also more subtle clues, like when theyre on the subway or bus or whatever it was (cant remember now) and the guy is pushing past them, he only actually touches/pushes Ed Norton, not Brad Pitt. Lots and lots of clues, in almost every single scene.
factsssss when i was editing i realized how dumb i was LOL
Like the first one that they have the same suitcase. Every time i see that i think the reactor is going to know right away.
@@BigPat6521 Even before that theres "...could you wake up as a different person?" as the camera pans from Norton to Pitt
What makes it even funnier: When they finished making the movie, the studio came back with notes. Among other things, they pointed out errors that they wanted fixed. They weren't errors, they were the clues. So if you feel stupid for missing them, imagine how much stupider you have to be to catch the clues, and still completely miss the point.
4:30 I have had insomnia, actually around the time this came out. It was really profound to me to see a movie talk about these problems so succinctly. I would not wish insomnia on my worst enemy. You're like a zombie cuz your brain doesn't have enough power to function. I went from being a straight A student to failing in one year.
Oh wow! Do you know what may have triggered, if anything? Don’t feel obligated to share too much information, I know this is an open platform. But thanks for sharing, it does not seem like a pleasant experience.
This movie is a certified classic and one of the most WTF movies I've ever seen.😂😮
During the sequence where it showed all the support groups Narrator and Marla were going to, I always thought it was funny that not only were they the only two White people in the sickle cell support group, everyone else there was eyeing the both of them with the exact same distrust and suspicion he'd been eyeing Marla with. Like, it does a rapid montage of all the different meetings they attend, showing Narrator just burning holes into Marla's head in anger that she was invading his space as a faker.
But in the last clip of that montage, they're in the sickle cell recovery group. Here, *the entire room is looking at both of them* with the exact same outrage he was showing her, fuming over the both of them being there since they were White people in a sickle cell recovery group. LOL
4:27 you catching all the flashes xD good on you not many actually even catch it )
33:36 smart observation i didn't get that one the first watch xD smart girl )
43:40 loved watching my favorite film with you great reaction video loved it x)
Like the angle... feels more chill.
45:08 he shot himself through the jaw, but the mental act of pulling the trigger was what he needed to do to mentally signal to himself that he didn't need Brad's Tyler anymore and killed him off.
Great reaction! I’m looking forward to more.
The flashes you see at the beginning are all of Tyler. He brought Marla to the building in order to kill her before destroying all those buildings, but stopped it by shooting himself in the face; signifying that he finally accepts what his alter-ego has done as a part of himself.
It makes me feel so old that I saw this at the movies!
I havent seen this film since i was a kid, like 15 years ago, but im enjoying your confusion. I felt the same way. 😅
11:11 that was a real punch. The director asked Edward Norton to surprise Brad Pitt.
(Spoiler)
When he shoots himself in the mouth the bullet went through the back part of his left cheek, exiting out in front of the ear. So he just fucked up his cheek and possibly teeth
32:20
The only question to ask is how would anyone in their right mind follow a man who is fighting himself? What the film shows necessarily happens in the head of the narrator.
Have you ever seen Me, Myself & Irene? With Jim Carrey? You should react to that one sometime if you haven't.
I was looking for Star Wars Episode 2 Attack of the Clones and Episode 3 Revenge of the Sith next.
its coming I am recording ep 2 this weekend
humans can actually survive with a large portion of their brain missing, and even live normal lives. as long as all the parts are still there in at least one of the two hemispheres of the brain, it will compensate for damage done to the other side. and if there's not too much bleeding you can survive without any damage to cognitive functions. the most important thing if you survive a shot to the brain after stopping the bleeding is to try and stay conscious dont fall asleep or you'll go into a coma indefinitely.
You can tell i love this film just by my profile
Actually, dirt is a one of the natural cleaners, It doesnt stink
Ghandi makes sense. He was once an Indian soldier fighting for the british empire in the first world war.
Also he was a phony
My spirit animal is Joe pesci, people tried to fight me but I enjoyed it and they got scared
dude just wanted to hold a girls hand, created a whole terrorist organization while trying, feels weirdly relevant
39:01 yes. true.
11:56 lol yes it is 🤣
I have a long train ride and this film is criminally misinterpreted by a lot of people.
Despite using split personalities as a tool, I think the film is entirely about masculinity and the toxic things men do to "prove" their masculinity to the world. Most men do this kind of stuff to one extent or another. Masculinity has been framed as an incredibly fragile thing when you think about it. This film came out in 1999. A time when simply getting a good hair cut and dressing nicely would get you labelled as "metro sexual" i.e. one step from being "gay."
So this downtrodden guy who feels powerless decides to "get tough." This is where a lot of guys lose the plot. Tyler Durden is a sick, fucked up, evil guy. His brand of "tough love" is just abuse disguised in a way that allows him to have plausible deniability. Tyler Durden is the manliest man in fight club. Right? And what does he spend his time doing? Bullying his "friend" into dozens of different crimes, many of them violent and traumatic.
The fighting itself is of course the number one way a man can "prove" his masculinity. We see this in both good ways and bad ways. How many romances in stories are started off by the male love interest physically fighting off people attacking a woman. Here though we see the ugly alter ego, and what I think is the truth behind even the "good fights" in a lot of films. Which is that fighting is simply all about other men, and the film takes that out and distills it to it's essence. You fight and you fight. Doesn't matter who the other guy is. It's not about him, it's about all the other other guys who see you and respect you for it.
Why do they respect you? Because you've shown that on some level you're willing to die to prove your masculinity. Being willing to die for something shows that that thing is sacred. Supremely important. What do people die for? Religions. Deeply held beliefs. Their family. But also masculinity. And this happens every day in every stupid bar fight, adultery homicide and gang killing.
And this is all historically true. The bit people seem to miss is that the film doesn't endorse this view. While loads of guys are idolising fight club and Tyler Durden they're missing the point. He's a psychopath criminal who is deeply deeply toxic. But men get mixed up in the idea of being the sort of man who is willing to die any day, and therefore is the type of man who does whatever he wants whenever he wants. It sounds empowering in the abstract. But the film is showing you that Tyler Durden is the result. In all likelihood he'd be dead in a year or two. And for what? He's running a loose gang of random dudes who's sole purpose in life is to beat on each other once a week.
Now let's talk about race. Because everything I said here is applicable to all those movies set in the hood where one of the friends gets shot. But as usual, films like fight club get to be universal classics while those black films are considered "niche." This is overly long already and I'm tired but I just felt it needed pointing out that people don't often give black people with these kinds of issues the same kind of in depth character study and it's a shame. Things are changing but slowly. Where is the film like this for beaten down white collar black dudes lol. And the key point there is for it to be not necessarily about the race aspect of the film, but about the masculinity side of things. That's the bit that is neglected.
The negative of getting a charismatic guy to play a charismatic role. People latching onto the antagonist always seem to happen with that combination to some extreme or another. While I agree with you, my takeaway is more focused on the drug like effects of treating depression with pain and violence more than the hyper-masculinity even though it's also there.
Lol, as a science nerd, theres nothing wrong with using water to dilute the lye. You'd need s shit tonne of vinegar anyway and water is cheaper and freely available on tap. Advice recommends not to use vinegar even though the chemistry checks out.
Insomnia isn't a choice. Neither is depression, or breaking your leg. Learn to empathy.
"insomnia isn't a choice" that's...what she said??
Thank you!!!
Split is another good multi personality movie but it's part 2 of a trilogy so it's Unbreakable, Split, then Glass. Worth a watch and reaction (Unbreakable is freaking awesome)
This is not a movie that appeals to the female brain imo. Not that that's a bad thing, we're just different.
I mean I'm not sure if you understood the message of the film. Perhaps it's because you've heard things from the MEN who also didn't understand the film and think it's "cool". But it's not actually celebrating toxic masculinity, it's more of a bleak warning. But people often miss that because it's subtle and not super didactic with it's messaging. I can see how it would be off putting for women in many ways. But on some level it should be interesting because it's an exploration of the issues men bring to their relationships with women. Just like men need to watch more films aimed at women, I think attempting to understand fight club is a good idea.
@@IshtarNikeof course, that's not even a deep or profound textual reading, our main character even says he's part of a dangerous terroristic organization and begs others to help him stop it.
I'm talking about loneliness and dissatisfaction that's developed around being a man in the modern age, our reactor here couldn't understand why the main character was so depressed and aimless at the start and I would say men at the time and especially now get that RIGHT away. Also wanting to prove yourself physically to and around other men, being okay with being dirty and physically uncomfortable also was alien to her.
And that's fine btw
"the female brain" lmfao that's not a thing. gender is a social construct, we're all humans. this was written by a gay man to critique misogyny and capitalism and you freaks who don't understand the first thing about media analysis are like "yesss, this what being a MAN is like". and you say that with zero self awareness as though capitalism isn't destroying every aspect of our lives, INCLUDING WOMEN'S.
there's literally a woman character going through the exact same thing as the main character and yall are still like "loneliness is unique to men, we're too different to get each other. that's what this story is about" like 🤦🏼♀
@@mischr13 Good point.
you so damn cute!
Disassociate identity disorder DID is what the narrator has and Tyler ain't the only other identity, Bob and marla are also identify a most of project mayhem are probly identify a with the feels real people having no clue whats going on
Now chew on this deep cut: is Marla real? Who talks to her outside of the narrator and Tyler
the paramedics
and the cult members too
Lots of people react to Marla in the film. The first time she walks into the testicular cancer meeting, everyone turns to look at her when she asks if it's the cancer meeting.