Spectral Corruption how about the fact that there are many stories of immaculate conceptions, virgin births, scapegoat deaths and resurrections which pre-date that story told in the bible. What possible good reason is there to assume that the Christians have it right, when the very essence of their story is borrowed from other, more ancient religions?
Mark Stone... You have a good point. I asked the same questions. Read the book "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel. You might be rolling your eyes by now.. you won't lose anything by reading his book. Written by an atheist.
@@uSpeakTruth The book is garbage, sorry. The case for Christ is extremely weak and has no contemporary accounts or supporting archaeological evidence. It's a double fail in historical standards.
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@@Mark-Stone Wrong, the most of them are not inmaculate virgins, I red about a God that was born by a virgin but,
Sticky Steve Ron Wyatt discovered the Ark in turkey and the Turkish government confirmed it in June 1987. The oldest written language on earth is Chinese pictography. If the flood happened, we would see it expressed in Chinese. And we do. The word flood for instance is made up of several other smaller pictographic words/symbols. Flood is made of the symbols “Boat, Water, 8 people”. RUclips God in Ancient China. The Yellow Emperor was a Christian, who believed in Shang Di which means “the spirits have one lord”. If women were made from mans rib, the Bible doesn’t say he put it back, so ribs would have to grow back... ribs are the only bone in the human body that grow back. The UN symbol is the flat earth, they laugh at you. Operation FishBowl is when they shot nukes at the dome and you can see pictures of it. It’s called operation fishbowl, they laugh with tears running down their faces at you. Look up P900 Nikon star videos. They are obviously not what we were told. NASA means to deceive in Hebrew. They admit that the blue marble picture of earth is an artist rendering. Compare the pictures of earth from US to Japan and Russia, the propaganda varies, every earth is different. And remember, the Bible says that Lucifer runs the show down here, so this unbelief in vast worldwide conspiracy, shows you don’t know your Bible. Yes, the world is fallen and evil. Try telling a mason that Lucifer doesn’t exist, he’d respond “oh we are counting on you thinking that you stupid sheep retard.” There is more historical evidence for Jesus of Nazareth being a living breathing person that existed and was crucified by Pontus Pilot then any other ancient world person other than Josephus the Historian, and that’s what 99 percent of scholars would agree on. Anyone who doubts that Jesus existed is so pathetically ignorant, they don’t even know what their secular priests (scientists) know to be true. And they call themselves science believers, so pathetic. So arrogantly dumb.
@@johnbecht3158 I'm not convinced what you wrote is factual. You are missing any references. You say a human rib removed can grow back. >>> "The eight centimeters of missing bone and one centimeter of missing cartilage did partially repair after six months." See? Not a whole rib. Just a tiny piece, partially repaired! Ark found in Turkey? I saw that video. >>> It is more likely that the Noah's Ark story was made up after someone find a boat on a hillside. >>> And no way a boat could carry two of every animal from the entire animal kingdom, plus food and water for them, etc. >>> No way 8 people could shovel feces fast enough, and water and feed all the animals, too.
Ignorance, arrogance, fear doesn't allow some people to get it, see it and believe it. I pray for them and that they will be enlightened by the Holy Spirit!
Hello My name is Adriana and i am just gonna tell you That Jusus (the massiah and annoited one) is the saviour........And we know that jusus is not Dead he is still alive.
I find it funny how people say things like why didn't Jesus just write his own book? Why were the gospels written by different people. Answer this question. Why is it that all of the new testament was written by men which were hundred's and even thousands of miles away from each other, they didn't have the internet or means of communication except for traveling by foot or horse, so tell me how is it that they all wrote about the same God?
@@kianaprovost182You must not have even read the comments in some of those. The fact that different individuals told of different details in each encounter DOES NOT make them contradictions. It only adds different information to the whole picture. Just like at a crime scene where multiple individuals give their own individual recollection of what they say happened. Everyone will give different details but that doesn't make them contradictions. It actually adds to the descriptiveness and credibility of the story given that this allows a more detailed and specific account. The Bible has actually been proven historically as one of the most go to, informative sources for historians and archeologists due to the overwhelming evidence of it's reliability and accuracy of historical information.
@@mynameiswrm There are two glaring contradictions in the Bible between the Old and New Testaments: 1) Jesus doesn't qualify to be the Messiah of the Old Testament (Hebrew Bible). 2) Eternal torture was fraudulently invented, because it doesn't exist in the Hebrew Bible or Judaism. (The word Hell was inserted into translations of the Hebrew Bible.) Two of the many ways Jesus is known to not be the real Messiah: (per aish . com "Why Jews Don't Believe in Jesus" A "must see" page.) The Messiah (in one coming - no second coming in Judaism) will: C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4) D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world - on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9)
I wonfer how Craig so confidently proclaims what was on the mind of Jesus followers in 35 AD when we have no writings from them and no reason to believe they truly believed in the resurrection
There are 27 books that were written by them within 100 years from His crucification. At least 7 of those are accepted by any NT scholar. So yeah, we have a pretty strong idea of what was going on in their heads...
@@danielbernardesfalcao2648 The 7 books you're referring to were written by Paul, a man who was not a Jesus follower im 35 AD. And the books Paul wrote were not written until the 50s. So I again, I point out that we have little indication as to what the Jesus follower movement was doing circa 35 AD.
@lostfan5054 that's literally 20 years apart. Historically, it's nothing. We also have the knowledge that Paul had contact with the original disciples and that their vision of the gospel matched. To the degree that Bart Ehrman acknowledges that we know the earliest creeds of the Christian church, dating back to one year after the crucifixion...
@@lostfan5054- gullible stupidity is a bliss! Have you heard of the Dead Sea scrolls!? Those documents are additional evidence of what we already have. Get behind me satan!
I've watched his videos.....and they are a joke. He tries to label "assertions" as "evidence. What bible thumpers like Craig *NEVER* address is the fact the gospels are *ANONYMOUS* accounts written *LONG* after the alleged events. There is not *ONE* contemporary account of Jesus.... *NOT ONE* . There is not *ONE* eyewitness account of the resurrection.... *NOT ONE*
Per William Lane Craig, Jews believe in Heaven and Hell, but they have no concept of eternal punishment in Judaism. You can verify that with writings by Rabbis, such as at aish . com
@Phillip Hickman They may 'believe' but do not KNOW what actually happened. You have mere conjecture on text claims from unknown authors with no original manuscripts. There is nothing to 'admit' until you can show real physical evidence for your physical claim. Pathetic error in scholarship.
@Phillip Hickman Severity? I thought he was a God of love? I do not mean visions, I mean proof for your string of claims. You make historical assertions with no physical evidence. King Tut at least left a corpse.
Robert Light in an atheistic worldview there is no love, or right or wrong, so either way it’s meaningless to you. Dr Craig is explaining how the glory of of Christ, for instance the fact that we can personally experience Christ and the Holy Spirit, is enough to prove God in its own, but he is also showing to the atheist why today’s top historical scholars are accepting that the truth of Christianity is the most likely explanation for the historical evidence regarding the events of the Ressurection of Christ.
Hebrews 5 : 7 " During the days of Jesus's life on earth he offered up prayers and petitions to the One who could save us from death ( spiritual) and he was heard because of his reverent submission."
Well if they couldn't answer it, they must not be very smart. The simple reason is this: because of Adam, all will die. It doesn't matter if you believe it or not. You will eventually die. But to have eternal life, you must believe Jesus died for your sins, and rose again. Think of it like being in a room on fire, and a firefighter is coming to save you, and he says "Trust me". Saying "Oh I don't believe the fire is real, I don't need you" is foolish. All Jesus simply asks is that you obey him and trust him... To sum it all up: Death needs no belief to work for us, it's default. but eternal life does, because only Jesus gives us eternal life.
It is so ironic that we automatically discount the resurrection, but yet we ignore or choose to put off the reality of death. Death is such an extreme yet it is real. You look at a body and it is evident something was there that no longer is. Our spirit is eternal. I’ve had two experiences where my spirit nearly left my body. I was raised in a Christian family. Thought it was all religion, then one day a tangible presence and assurance encountered me at church. God is real & Jesus is real and alive. The resurrection is just as extreme as death is. If Christ wasn’t real we wouldn’t be debating him 2,000 years later and the reason God limited evidence is so that we would have to accept him by faith but he gave us enough evidence to take that step of faith. Regardless, we will all die someday & then we will know. Our spirits continue on after this body physically dies. Lastly, it’s funny we use more logic and faith to reject and deny Christ than we do to accept him. Also, there is evil and also a devil. I’ll be praying for everyone who commented. One day our faith will be our eyes and that goes for everyone whether your faith is accepting Christ or rejecting him....if anyone actually chooses to seek him you will find him !
Nonsense. We discount the resurrection because it has only conjecture and unverifiable stories in support of it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I have no reason to think Jesus was anything more than a normal person running a cult whose followers deified him. Death is the end. The sooner we realize this the better things will get. Believers care more about their fantasy based afterlife than their life today and as a result ignore the environment and treat the planet and it's other lifeforms like shit.
cont. to truly be a follower of Jesus one must believe with all your heart he was the son of the one living God, that he died for our sins and was resurrected by the Father fulfilling the prophesies. One must love him by loving the Father and walking as Jesus did to the best of our abilities. We all must pick up the cross and follow him. Read Mark chap XII and John chap XIV
Repeatedly Ignoring these *FACTS* proves that religion has indoctrinated and radicalized you to be a dogmatic brainwashed unthinking dishonest fundamentalist fool. *FACTS:* Correlation doesn't imply causation. There are about a quadrillion uninhabitable planets out there and at least 8 of them are in our solar system. The big bang is the expansion of existing condensed matter. Nobody know if the changing universe is eternal or was created. If without evidence you claim there is an eternal God, then you can save a step and assume the changing universe is eternal. So, it's quite likely that earth just got lucky in its formation and delusional folks are praising an imaginary God. Neither abiogenesis nor evolution needs God. The evil COVID19, influenza, malaria, etc., are DNA/RNA based. They can't be God's creation or naturally modified versions of it due to imperfections because by definition God is neither evil nor imperfect. Since nature by itself has created the living RNA/DNA of those diseases, then nature by itself is capable of creating life from non-life. Religion is a scam that uses fear tactics to scam the gullible fools who obviously lack critical thinking. Religion threatens the fools with an imaginary hell for not believing in an imaginary God, and rewards their gullibility with an imaginary heaven. Salvation is a solution to a problem the religion scam has created. It's like a charlatan going around cutting gullible fools with a knife in order to sell bandaid. The sin-sacrifice story of Jesus implies a superstitious savage irrational God who values blood-sacrifice, which was common back then - e.g. sacrificing a goat for a new home. Decades after Jesus, the delusional superstitious hoaxer Christian writers created the resurrection hoax by making up fake testimonials that the disciples witnessed an empty tomb & a risen Jesus. If Jesus had Godly powers, he'd still be alive to prove he has Godly powers. Resurrection & ascendance to heaven is a hoax that easily dupes the gullible fools.
I want to believe in Jesus my parents are missionaries and I’ve had a strong Christian upbringing. However I can’t help if I have a very skeptic all mind so I find it hard to believe in Jesus. Can someone help me answer my questions? On question I really struggle with is how can we say that Christianity is the only truth? I just find it really hard to believe that there is only one right religion out of all. Everyone thinks their religion is truth. Then how am I supposed to know which one it is? Also, I have a really hard time believe that there is a God that actually cares and listens to me. That just doesn’t sound real. Like why would God care about my problems? If he did he would have answered my prayers and not made me suffer so much in this disgusting world. Also, why do some people get saved and others don’t? Psychopaths are born messed up because of their brain, you can’t really blame them for the sins they do. Why would God send them to hell? Overall, God just doesn’t seem fair to me. Especially in the Bible, he made Israelites the “chosen people”. So if you were born as an Israelite then you’re good and don’t have to worry about going to hell, but if you were born in some different tribe or nationality, you were immediately a bad person??? People don’t get to choose where they are born!
Everything happens for a reason..We can't explain everything...no one can...Babies get aborted everyday..Innocent people get killed...The world is always at war...The Bible says that all these things must be full filled before He comes...There is evil in the world...Satan fell from Heaven...The evil he does has been permitted..But not forever...Why do we go through tough times? It teaches us Patience..Helps us build a strong faith...If we were all rich beyond our wildest dreams...Who would have a need for God...It is only when we fail and fall and get back up that we can appreciate the things we had..And be grateful and thankful for what little blessings we do have...Money and Fame corrupts people..We see this in Hollywood and politics...But the best of us have been through the worst...It makes us stronger..wiser...More Just in our decisions...It's the great polishing of our lives during this Journey to become closer to God...The truth is...No one will ever understand the Bible until the read it many times...And we all can explain these things until our toungues fall out .But it won't help you much until you read it for your self and discover it's depths and pray for Wisdom understanding and Guidance..
I have a situation that is kinnda similar i was born and raised as a muslim but i had a lot of doubts about islam growing up cause it was very sexist and had alot of things that i felt was unfair like only muslims go to heaven so i left it and gradually became an atheist but then i felt really empty cause i used to believe that god is always with me protecting me and loving me so i felt really alone so i decided to try and regain my faith in god first then search for a religion and i succeed in regaining my faith in god i strongly believe in god now and tried to regain my faith in islam but i am having a hard time doing it and i am searching for the religion that is right but i can't find a religion that is perfect and i believe that if a religion is really from god it has to be all perfect but all religions to me has some stuff that doesn't sound right
All religions cannot be right because they oppose each other. There can only be one truth. Something is either a fact or it’s not a fact. Hindus believe in multiple gods while Christians believe in one God. Buddhist believe in reincarnation while Christians believe in one life and one death. Someone has to be wrong which is why all religions can’t be right. Do you understand what I am saying? We have free will to choose which one we think is right but it doesn’t mean we are right. I personally choose christianity. I have questions as well but I choose to lean on my faith. Plus, the God of Christianity offers redemption, salvation, forgiveness, and love to all who open their hearts to “him”. I don’t know of another deity who does that... only God.
@@jessicaleigh3286 " I personally choose Christianity. I have questions as well but I choose to lean on my faith. Plus, the God of Christianity offers..." so you choose the truth you like the most for what it offers.. like buying a used car or by personal convenience?
If you have put faith in Jesus Christ as God and His atoning sacrifice & confirmation of divinity in the resurrection then you are saved, born again, endowed with the Holy Spirit. That very spirit is your assurance of Salvation, you should have confidence in that, knowing that you are indeed redeemed from hell & death just as Jesus displayed in the resurrection that same Spirit is in us.
Never be afraid to question your faith. There is valid reason to doubt claims that aren't believed based on evidence, but based on childhood indoctrination passing beliefs from one generation to the next, regardless of truth.
@Lynn Alice Really, then please provide some contemporary evidence for Jesus existence. If you can't do that then you have to admit my post was correct and apologise.
@Lynn Alice Evidence would be, for example, historically credible accounts from contemporary sources mentioning Jesus with sufficient corroboration to identify him as the man who may or may not have inspired the gospel accounts. I am not claiming Jesus never existed, I am just pointing out the lack of contemporary evidence for his existence. I would also ask what evidence you have that Christians were ever persecuted? Tacitus was writing long after the events and was just commenting on what Christians in Rome claimed to believe. Hence he is third hand evidence and not contemporary. The gospel of Mark predates Tacitus so people could just be repeating its stories to Tacitus (the same goes for Pliny). Josephus does not mention Jesus, the Testimonium Flavianum is a 4th century interpolation by Eusebius. A fact acknowledged by biblical scholars for more than 100 years.
@Lynn Alice I said zero contemporary evidence and that is true. If the events described in the gospels had actually happened then someone would have mentioned them around the time they were alleged to have happened. Not a single one of the many people writing around the early to mid 1st century mention anything. Atheism is not a religion in the same way that the off switch is not a TV channel and not playing tennis isn't a sport. Ido not say that jesus never existed, I point out the fact that no contemporary evidence exists and it doesn't!
@@justicebjorke3201 No, Jospephus does not mention Jesus. The Testimonium Flavianum is a 4th century interpolation by Eusebius and the 'who is known as the Christ' insertion later is known to be a later interpolation as that part of Josephus is talking about Jesus son of Damnius, later high priest in Jerusalem. Tacitus and Seutonius are writing even later and only recounting what Christians of that period were telling them. This is after the gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke had been written. With the story from the gospels being disseminated among Christian sects its hardly surprising they pass the Euhemerised version of Jesus on to Tacitus and Seutonius (and Pliny). None of these are contemporary (not even Josephus). Which is the point I made above.
But can you answer my question? What would have happened to me if there was no Christ sacrifice? Was I already damned for the sins of ancient people, unless Christ died on a cross? Who imposed this condition? God? God told his son that he needed his blood in order to make him pleased and calm down so that it would be possible to forgive me for the sins of ancient people?
There is no proof outside of the Bible Manuel playbook for world domination and human control call the Bible, that two thousand years ago a Jesus of Nazareth was crucified and reason, no historical evidence no books from that day, the last book of the Old Testament Malachi never spoke of a crucified risen Savior, but a judge of the wicked was coming, how could such a important scripture be left out, a crucified and risen Savior !!!
@@vahegiragol9953 i wanna point out Isaiah 53 is talking about the nation of Israel. Of course you won't know that since you only know Isaiah 53, not Isaiah 49, 50,51,52, 54, 55 etc
The story of Jesus' death and resurrection is a perfect example of PLAGIARISM from older pagan literature. Tammuz was a god of Assyria, Babylonia and Sumeria. He was also celebrated with the cross symbol (I dare any Christian to look this up). Ctesias author of Persika, wrote about Tammuz. The ancient poet has perpetuated his memory in rhyme. “Trust, ye saints, in your risen Lord; For the pains which Tammuz endured Our salvation have procured.” (400 B.C.) This was written before any book in the New Testament of the Bible. Before the Jesus story. And the legend of Tammuz goes back thousands of years. Doesn’t the Bible story of the death of Jesus, sound just like Tammuz? Risen Lord who died and suffered pain to bring salvation to humanity? Also celebrated with the cross symbol? Isn’t that what the Bible says about Jesus? Yes. Christians: This is not by mere coincidence. So don’t excuse it as such. So why believe in a Bible man who walked on water, was born of a virgin and raised from the dead? Alot of the Bible is based upon stolen pagan concepts predating it. There was NO virgin birth. Its a fable. And that's only ONE example out of the hundreds I could give you. The ancient deity of Tammuz came WAY before the story of Jesus. Even in ancient Mesopotamian clay tablets dating to the Amorite Period dating from the periods 2000-1600 BC containing teachings of Tammuz and the legend are currently held in the Louvre museum in Paris. This was written BEFORE ANY book in the bible. Older than the Book of Genesis which was written around 1440 B.C. Look THAT up. NO BOOK can tell you what a god wants. And NO BOOK could ever prove WHO or WHAT created us. And no book can ever prove that what you worship had a son who was sinless, born of a virgin and rose from the dead. The Bible even mentions the worship of Tammuz in Ezekiel 8:14. Bible wroters were WELL AWARE of these pagan teachings. And if they were WELL AWARE of it, it should be NO SHOCK to you that they stole these pagan concepts. It JUST like Christians who decorate their trees on Dec 25th. Smh. Dec 25th is a PAGAN holiday and the tree decorating is forbidden in the book of Jeremiah because it says that its a detestable practice of PAGANS (Jeremiah 10:1-5, BIBLE). But YET Christians STILL decorate their trees every year and celebrate on December 25th which is a PAGAN holiday (Yule Tides) December 25th is NOT Jesus' birthday! And those decorated trees have nothing to do with Jesus. The church at one time even tried to adopt the PENTAGRAM symbol which is also PAGAN. I speak FACTS 💯 The bible writers STOLE concepts from pagans. But All you have are CLAIMS. There's a difference between facts and claims. Facts are proven, demonstrable and don't require faith. However, your claims DO require faith.
The Evidence that JESUS CHRIST was raised to life is in the books of the holy bible and saint books by there actions in what they did because JESUS CHRIST promises all of them to us today that if we die faithful to him we will live forever in the new heaven new earth one day therefore many people in history died for what the beleived in none will dear to die for a lie therefore the Apostels and decipeles all died serving JESUS CHRIST because they beleived to die for others and for the gospel that there life will be given back to then this time to live forever all or most where martyred for there faith in JESUS CHRIST because they preached the gospel when most could have excaped the death sentence simply by confessing that there doctrine is a lie when each and every one of them only confeses that the doctrine of CHRISTIANITY is pin point acurate thus:: if it was not all they had to do is confess it and live rather then been martyred this is eveidence in the holy bible itself and books of the saints known as history books recoreded i do not beleive how some people do not beleive in history well did history exsist corse it did
@Mr. Lion ok go read a bible. The devil was the reptile deciving them. By the way have you noticed that were the only animals that are ashamed of us being naked. God is real the devil is in you and you need jesus.
@Mr. Lion you cant even spell. Lol. Ok then why do we see a boy dog but its happy as ever and doesn't give a crap. We are very smart but until they ate the fruit they knew what they were naked and felt ashamed because of the devil. The reason why murder hate rape and many other bad things that happened. I dont need to prove the devils real just turn on the TV and the news.
I've literally (and I mean literally) never heard anybody, including WLC, claim that he's a scientist. He describes himself as a philosopher and Christian apologist.
@@dom252 Well then he can't spout off about having evidence for Jesus, then, can he? He doesn't grasp what evidence is, every argument falls back on presupposition or faith in old texts that aren't even contemporary.
@@zachtastic625 actually he can spout evidence, if you check out his actual website he quotes many historians and New Testament scholars who back him up on the authenticity of Jesus.
@@sativagx4105 None of that is relevant. There is NO evidence supporting the resurrection, regardless of people's OPINIONS ON IT. There are also scholars that do NOT believe Jesus rose from the dead, so to claim that scholars believing he did means he actually did is baseless.
When mankind sinned against God in the beginning we were damned. Jesus/Yashua being sacrificed in the flesh washed away with his pure blood those sins for those with faith in him. The wickedness will continue to spread as the populace becomes more immoral & once again man will try to set up a one world system of control and will play God. God will unleash his wrath on the world for believing & worshiping the man of perdition. Jesus will gather his flock before the destruction of this world.
I think the Jesus story may have perpetuated this insanity, whether it was taken out of context or not, the damage has been done. Jesus had great understandings. Maybe too great for us to fully comprehend or put into practice? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
@@solideogloriaapologetics8901 " I believe in God because I think that there is good evidence for one." Do you THINK there is good evidence for a god or do you KNOW there is? Big difference there. Anybody can think or believe anything, assuming something is evidence in hindsight of a presupposition is not actually evidence. "Many arguments such as the moral argument have convinced me of God." How? Morality is a presupposition and always has been. Apologetic arguments are only there to convince believers what they already believe, they aren't logically valid and rely on assumptions, especially the moral argument. "And, apologists have been able to debunk objections and attempted and alleged refutations of the moral argument. " Not in any meritorious way. The moral argument is based on assumption. It's a giant WHAT IF, not an argument that proves anything. "I believe in the God of Christianity because of the evidence we have for the ressurection." Again, repeating a presupposition is not an argument. You can believe what you want, but there isn't any evidence, just man made stories written 20+ years after the events they allegedly describe, with no contemporary accounts or sources whatsoever. Nothing wrong with believing, but claiming evidence for somebody rising from the dead (a completely unfalsifiable unverifiable extraordinary claim) is ridiculous. "I would be more than willing to share with you some of the reasons why I believe Jesus rose from the dead." I know why you believe. It's what you've been taught and raised into as a kid. Apologetic arguments don't convince non believers because they don't hold merit. They only reinforce what somebody already believes via deception and word games. Where is the archaeological evidence? Where are the contemporary sources? Those are the 2 biggest standards of historical inquiry. I don't care why you believe. I care if you claim there is evidence because usually that is based on deception and myth. I'm a skeptic because none of the so called Jesus evidence is meritorious. There is equally as much evidence supporting the Egyptian Book of the Dead or the Quran.
@@solideogloriaapologetics8901 I know what the moral argument is, it's a complete presupposition justified by circular reasoning. 1. Objective morals and duties can't exist without god 2. Morals and duties exist 3. Therefor God It's pure nonsense. First, belief in morals and duties can exist without god, look at Buddhists and secular humanists. Second nobody can objective prove morals and duties exist, merely that SOME people believe they do. People all across the world disagree on morality, it's subjective. Objective means it can be demonstrated, and it can't. It relies 100% on faith. The moral argument is self defeating trickery like all apologetic lies. "Second of all, the resurrections is the best explanation for why a group of Jews began to worship a man named Jesus. " Prove it. Just stating that isn't an argument, it's an opinion. LOL@ claiming the best explanation for a religion is the supernatural one when there are thousands of other religions. Do you take the same position on Mohammed writing the Quran dictated to him by Allah? I mean it's the best explanation for why a group of Pagans in the middle east started worshiping Allah, right? LOL. "Back then, the Jews believed that there would be a resurrection at the end of time." No they didn't. "The disciples couldn’t have knowingly been lying about Jesus rising from the dead if they knew it wasn’t true. " False. The stories of Jesus came 20+ years after the events by non eye witnesses and 3rd party accounts. There isn't a single contemporary source for the resurrection. You just want it to be true. Again, there is just as much evidence for Quran. Stories are stories, not automatic fact. "Second of all, it couldn’t have been that the women got the wrong tomb because the Pharisees and other people trying to stomp out the Christians would have simply produced the tomb Jesus was actually buried on, thus ruling out the possibility that the disciples had the wrong tomb. " All based on folklore, not actuality. "So, the resurrection of Jesus Christ is held up by historical facts." You literally sourced ZERO historical facts LMFAO! LOL @ proper context. For you that means blind belief in old man made stories.
@@solideogloriaapologetics8901 "We are saying that God is required for there to be moral absolutes." I'm well aware of that, but you can't prove that, nor can you demonstrate there are objective moral absolutes and that's a fatal flaw of the argument. "Subjective morality is the idea that morality depends on people’s opinions. " False. You are talking about moral relativism. Subjective morality is a statement of fact considering that you can't objectively demonstrate any of it. Objective morality is a myth, whether you WANT it to be true or not. "That kind of reasoning has lead to things like Stalin,Hitler, the Holocaust, and the bloodbath under Communist rule in places like China and Soviet Russia. " That's not true in the slightest. "Richard Wurmbrand a Christian, was tortured in communist prisons for preaching the gospel" And Christians have never tortured non believers, RIGHT? Complete red herring to the conversation. Stop projecting and prove that morality is objective.
The only people that supposedly saw jesus were his disciples. Why didn't jesus come back to life and reveal himself to all those that saw him die? There would be no doubt to the idiots who lived in that era that he was the messiah. And Christians wouldn't need the magic word "faith". And no that does not mean free will goes out the window because people would still have the option to follow him abd obey what jesus daddy wants.
I see nothing but suffering ahead for me in my life and as a result I would like to end my life, before I do that I would like to know beyond a shadow of a doubt if Jesus was truly the savior of mankind, I guess I'm asking for prayer, this is the information I need to know before my final Act
I don't believe that their is any physical evidence that one can truly say that Jesus rose from the dead.....it is only through FAITH that one can say that they believe Jesus rose from the dead
Dd S well, let me start with the spread of Christianity. Christianity is built upon The resurrection of Jesus. If he didn’t resurrect, Christianity would’ve stopped then and there. But it didn’t. Matter of fact it exploded in popularity after the time of Jesus. And with the fact that archaeologists can’t find his body is just more proof that the resurrection is true.
Dd S it’s simple mind foaming at the mouth anti theists like you that make it unenjoyable to debate. If it wasn’t true, you’d have to explain why the disciples were martyred for their actions, and you would have no other choice but to think that 500 schizophrenics all saw the resurrection at once at the exact same time of day, in the exact same location on the exact same date in the exact same year. Time to read the rest of your anti theist gibberish. Let’s see if you have anything actually worth reading. This “cult” is still thriving. If you want a real merciless religion, look at Islam
Dd S you don’t voluntarily die for something you know is not true. The disciples were told to either say that the resurrection was false, or to die brutal deaths, including being dragged around the city until their limbs were ripped off, being cut in half, or being crucified themselves. Why would they endure this pain if it weren’t true? What would they have to gain? Islam is a corrupt religion where people are brainwashed into thinking that killing non believers is justifiable (e.g ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, etc.)
@@zachtastic625 God is not a religion , he is there , he is alive. What u ran into was just false people ,, my family is catholic and i was an atheist , and now 2 years ago i met God .
After the crucifixion, Followers of Jesus were first scared and hiding. Then they were out in public saying Jesus was alive again. What happened to make that change?
Check out the shroud of Turin. The science is fascinating...image 3 microns deep, photo negative, and 3D on vp8 analyzer. It covered the body of Christ at the time of his resurrection he became light captured the negative image on his cloth first believers had the same cloth we have today which gave them evidence that he rose. It was the first reason why they believed he had risen...the linen cloth...64 pollens fro, Jerusalem, we have evidence it existed in 1100s, 200 years before carbon dating via the Hungarian prayer codex
@@matthewvecchio8965 Complete nonsense. Shroud of Turin was dated to the middle ages, not the first century, it's an intentional hoax. Believing that crap is dumber than believing Jesus burns his image onto toast.
Samtastic that’s the problem with Not doing your research. I have studied the cloth my whole life and scientists around the world have dedicated their life to the study. I ask you to give this your academic ear for a second. Carbon dating isn’t correct because we have historical evidence it existed 200 years before the carbon dating. We have evidence via the Hungarian prayer codex it at LEAST dates the cloth 1132...(cabin dating said 1350’s). also, the image is a photo NEGATIVE...it couldn’t have been made by human hand because people in the Middle Ages didnt know of the concept of photography to even know of the concept of negative imagery until the 1800s. It wasn’t until 1898 did we take the first photo of the cloth to identify its negative characteristics. It is forensically perfect to a crucifixion and only has 4 fingers because the thumb curls in on crucified victims. It has over 64 pollens from Jerusalem. Also, if it were made by human hand how did they make it? The image is 3 microns deep, and is a 3D image on the vp8 analyzer...only artifact In the world to do so. Indeed there is no logical explanation for answering those questions. If you can tell me how an artist made each particle brighter and darker on the image to display a 3d image on the VP8 analyzer, so that the image becomes three dimensional, please let me know. We still can’t create the image nor explain it today. If the event was truly a radioactive event, which means Jesus became radioactive Light at the time of his resurrection and imprinted his negative image on the cloth that wrapped him, more carbon monoxide would’ve been exhibited on the cloth to interfere with carbon dating, nor to mention the handling by human hand over 2000 years plus surviving a fire in the 1300. If you are so convinced the image was a hoax, explain to me how they made a negative 3D image. Then tell me what other image made by human hand resembles these characteristics? The first apostles saw this cloth in the Tomb and believed he had risen. No surprise that the greatest event in human history had physical evidence and witness of it occurring. If you want to discuss further, please answer the above questions and we can have a logical and scientific discussion. If you’re going to be willful ignorant to the point of not even listening to my points above then you’ve already made up your mind and turned your back to science.
@@matthewvecchio8965 Also if you have studied the cloth your whole life, please post your peer reviewed research that you had published about it. Thanks.
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Do to all that has happened, it strengthened me, even if I didn't know it & was falling apart. I had protected myself from darkness with a cold personality, but my true nature was shown to my friends & those I loved. I wasn't evil towards people just didn't show any emotion. I'm just trying to live happy & make others happy & hopeful, spreading love, light, and positivity. Trying to help them with their mental struggles, & the demons that tried to drag them down to the Pitts of hell. When I was very young I remember VERY vividly in a dream still to this day, sitting in the lap of Jesus in heaven. That night I wept for my grandmother, I was in an abusive home wanting an escape. I see what he's done for me. In my teen years, I was lost, out of control, into witchcraft, not dark magic but just interested in the hidden/magical/ general occult, but he was still present. I was losing my mind, embracing insanity, going through 8 years of depression, tortured by anxiety, negative thoughts of things that don't matter. I was dealing with Psychosis, panic attacks, all sorts of mental issues. Multiple personalities (Demon). This all started before I became comforted by darkness, all I wanted to find was the truth, though I was met with false truths. I was extremely manic, even wanted to kill someone. I was sad & hated myself for so long, it seemed like I gave so much yet was being tormented. Saw many demons in my home. I didn't want to be like this. I was bullied in school at times, started to hate humanity. I was in constant emotional agony. I felt like cutting my arm & bleeding was more pleasurable then the emotions I was always feeling. I felt death was my friend, cause it would lead me back home. I hoped for death at times. I became very dark, numb, & cold. Started smoking bud, drinking, pre marital sex, just sinning. That demon of the past was trying to annihilate me. Even though I loved god & saw many great signs of his existence, unbelief was there. I wanted to know more so I wanted to try to lucid dream, astral project, meditate, sun gaze, mirror gaze, all sorts of spirituality practices, and I fell away from him. Nothing evil, anyway...except for the tarot cards & occult. Since then I repented from those things, rebuked, & renounced them. I thought I was doing good for others casting things to help them..it usually only took from me. After awhile, feeling good from meditation, working out, eating healthy. I stopped. I fell into the deepest despair of insanity & questioned my everything I ever thought about. EVERYTHING! I was dead, I was begging, asking for help, pleading actually..to anyone that would listen. And my friend brought me back to the church & on a certain night I begged God for a sign of his existence so I may stop doubting him. And that night I had a dream & at the end of the dream of some random kid on a bike being chased by a madman in a car. I was in a mountain & inside was crystal clear waters, in those waters I was with two others that I don't remember the faces of, but a white horse that gave me an immense feeling of bliss & peace came to me from across the waters from the other side. It seemingly smiled and the dream ended. When I woke up I was puzzled & asked my pastors & they believe as I did, that it was Jesus. Before this I kept seeing videos of hell pop up in my feed, so I watched them. I was trembling like I never had before. I was not walking with God as I should have, & I was convicted. I was compelled after thinking of all the possibility that there is no doubt that god exists, he is the lord Jesus Christ. I believe in his name as I always have & I am happy that he brought me back to him. It's funny my place of torture was called Bethel Road. I kid you not my youth was hell epitomized. He wanted me to fight with him. He made me strong & cold to this world for a reason, the cold heart turned into a burning anger towards evil, a rightious heart. My wrath and his shall be poured onto those evil entities when fighting with the lord in Armageddon. The world corrupted one of his angels, I was so pure when I was younger, & wanted to do nothing but help others & nurture. My innocence was stripped from me as I realized the harsh realities of this painful world. I have seen angels & great wonders by the lord. Crosses & angels in the sky, visions. I was having excruciating migraines that do didn't go away, asked for him to make them vanish & they did. This was when I was a kid & was younger & unprogrammed. All I saw was lies. I now have the wisdom by God to see that he brought me back in haste, so I may not be appointed to his wrath. Which is good cause I want to be with him. I detest this evil world, I have always looked to the sky longing for home. HEAR ME FOR MY MIDDLE NAME IS GABRIEL, THIS IS MY TESTIMONY OF MY EXPERIENCE IN LIFE AND WITH THE LORD! Through him my pains washed away, even though meditating helped slightly. It would do nothing in these days knowing judgement is here, I am glad I put my faith 200% back in Jesus Christ. If I was meditating and continuing with the new age practices I would be absolutely terrified, depressed, & souly hopless knowing the end is here. But I am happier each day, through all my agony I have found paradise is Christ. Having a relationship with the one who created you. For those who read this & do not believe. DO YOU NOT SEE THE PROPHECY BEING FULFILLED BEFORE YOUR VERY EYES! ISRAEL & ARAB PEACE DEAL WAS APART OF PROPHECY! Israel just split, god is real. (Israel=Is real) IT'S UNFOLDING BEFORE US, THE CHURCH SHOULD BE TALKING MORE ABOUT REVELATIONS NOT AVOIDING IT! You don't want to be here for the coming judgement, so accept Jesus now for I feel it in my spirit & very soul he is coming for his believers soon. Like almost now soon, I have this INNER KNOWING that he is indeed coming, even when I was not walking with him. At first I was scared to hear of revelation, then I remembered the rapture & Jesus's blessed promise. Don't let anybody strip you of his promise, his blessed hope. If you are his, walk with him, have a relationship with him, love him, be obedient to his grace, fear not. See unlike the devils gifts..it won't cost you. Jesus's salvation is free. If you reject him, your heart will shatter as his did when you rejected him. You don't want to hear "I never knew you, depart from me!" But Jesus has a big heart, full of love & joy. He heals the broken hearted & those who weren't shown love. His mercy is an ever flowing ocean. Continue to pray everyday, speak to him, read his word, you will be comforted everyday. 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Excellent! Dr. Craig, as usual, gives an indefensible, point-by-point argument in favor of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Watch it and go witness to your friends, telling them of the FACT that Jesus is alive! Because he is.
So your saying there are two gods. Jesus who is a man God (a bit like the Romans Nd Hreeks had) and the God God who is God. The God who said he was the one jealous God. The who said thou shalt have no other gods but me. Have I read the bible. Yes and I have read how the bible was written too. Have you? Or do you just believe all the crap WCL tells you?
Too True. It is funny. Just like Atheism is funny with no evidence to support it. Heres an idea go listen to a comedy post and stay away. We dont care about what you find humorous we just want to listen to a Scholar Respected by 10's of thousands of people and not have childish posts to bog down sincere people who care about what happens to other people. Please dont go away mad just go away
If christianity was actually a "sun cult" and the "son"=the "sun" then his resurrection can easily be explained in earlier myths neither "pagan" nor Jewish, such as zoroastrianism and other ancient cults of sun worship. We literally celebrate the birth of the "son" at the suns lowest trajectory through the sky. The fact that this guy completely ignores sun cults is kind of aggravating for someone who is open minded and actually looking for answers.
The main reason that xianity caught on is because Constantine converted. He was a horrible person, had is wife and son murdered, had hundreds, if not thousands of others murdered. What other religion lets you live the worst possible life, make a death-bed conversion and you still get into heaven--that was the appeal for Constantine.
William Lane Craig believe human beings are incapable of coming up with a story and can only PERFECTLY borrow previous stories illustrated in the way he dismissed the Jewish influence on the resurrection...
“Would you die for a made up story”? If the answer is no, then it makes you wonder why Jesus’ disciples were willing to die for something made up. Especially Paul aka Saul who KILLED CHRISTIANS. That just doesn’t make sense.
@@TheKillaMali horrible analogy. Saul is basically a modern day extreme jihaddist who wanted to kill Christians but claimed to have seen and been used by Jesus (who is from a religion that he opposes).
I frankly find it astounding at the degree to which Dr. Craig, the "scholar" has allowed his scholarship to become so awfully tainted by dogma and doctrines. All of his presentations that I have listened to clearly show this built in bias. Let's look at one aspect of this video. Craig says that the origin of the Disciples belief in Jesus' resurrection had no prior indicators. That's not true. According to the Bible, there were numerous cases, some known to the disciples, when the dead were raised including Lazarus. Additionally, Jesus told them in Mark 10:34 in plain terms, not parables, what was to happen to him including his resurrection. Now, they may have had doubts when he initially told them; but, after they "saw" him after he was supposedly killed and buried, they would have, as a matter course, recalled what he had told them about this event and belief would have slowly come to them. This would have been especially the case as Peter, the designated "holder of the keys" and the power associated therewith, was the force behind the belief. The idea of life after death, resurrection, did nor start with Jesus and the disciples. The Egyptians were the first, that we know of, to place great emphasis on the heart. In the Egyptian Book of the Dead, the "heart" is "weighed". In Jeremiah 17:10, we have God "searching" the heart. The Egyptians were the first, that we know of, to state a rational case for a soul with actions. They believed that the soul "KA" needed a body and vice versa. Accordingly, they mummified the body with the belief that it would rise again. Additionally, they placed in the tomb along with the body all the provisions deemed necessary for when the body rose again. In Daniel we find that the King was "weighed". Indeed, the idea that morality has weight came directly and firstly, that we know of, via the Egyptians. Today, the Bible is saturated with references to the heart and its contents. Furthermore, the Jews were heavily influenced by the dominant powers that conquered or ruled over them, including the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks and Romans. The truth is, everything evolves. Each idea is a seed derived from a predecessor. For example, the idea of one God originated, as far as we know, with the Pharaoh of Egypt, Akhenaten. It was the seed having its own predecessor, from which todays idea of monotheism evolved. The sun is a seed in the chain of seeds by which we now have the brilliant ball in Times Square on New Years Eve. Jesus' resurrection evolved from assorted ideas, claims and practices, which were predecessors. If the truth matters, then let it be told.
No proof whatsoever. No primary source of evidence. Just the gospel account which was written decades later. William Craig is a charming speaker and quite neatly fudges the question.
Adelyn Bennett wow. In that case you can provide references. Not just a line in a book saying 500 people witnessed it. Thats not evidence. Evidence is 500 ppl with individual written testimonies.
The proof to God’s existence is the Quran. And the truth to what happened to Jesus and Moses and all the prophets is in the Quran. Cuz the author of the book is God. He knows how prove his existence and speaks the truth to his creation.
Are you one of Jehovah Witnesses 1 Corinthians 15:50 < Do you see the parallels that this verse draws between the kingdom of God with incorruption and flesh and blood with corruption? It is obvious that the flesh and blood bodies that we have are subject to decay and death they are corruptible and corruptible bodies cannot inherit heaven so what must happen to these corruptible bodies in order that they may inherit heaven verse 51-53 once our bodies become incorruptible then they will be able to inherit the Kingdom of God which is incorruptible when we read verse 50-53 we see the real meaning of verse 50 we know that our transformed body's will be glorified flesh and bones with no blood read Luke 24:39 when His Spirit re-entered back into his body His Resurrection was a transformation His flesh became glorified His blood disappeared yes brothers Gal 1:1 God the Father resurrected His sons body but how can this be when 1 Peter 3:18 says that he was made alive "in the spirit" notice it doesn’t say "made alive as a spirit" It reads made alive "in the spirit" “In the Spirit” is a shorter way of saying in or by the power of the Spirit so Jesus body was made alive by His human Spirit Romans 8:11(the Spirit is Jesus the Him is Jehovah in Romans 8:11) God the Father played a role in the resurrection because he gave the commandment Jesus human Spirit played a role in his resurrection because he obeyed the commandment we know this because what did Jesus human Spirit say within His body John 10:17,18 John 2:19-21 let's read John 20:27 He decided to keep His wounds as proof that His body had risen and oneday his wounds will go away when we are all one let's read John 20:14 the reason why Mary didn't recognize him is because verse 1 tells us that it was early and still dark (verse 11-15) we see that she begins to weep so her tears grief and the darkness got in the way of her recognizing Jesus no wonder she mistook Jesus as the gardener plus she believes that Jesus is dead she wasn’t expecting Jesus to be alive it was her grief that didn’t allow her to recognize his voice at first verse 16 she recognizes Him and for Luke 24:30,31 verse 16 tells us why they didn’t recognize Him [1 Corinthians 15:13-17] does 1 Timothy 2:5 contradict 2 Corinthians 5:16 You believe that this verse proves that we should no longer view Jesus in a body of flesh your view is wrong the verse is about not setting the mind on the flesh but why Romans 8:6-8 Jesus the man is soon coming to transform Philippians 3:21to transform our bodies to be like his glorious body and to remove His people from the earth 1 Thess 4:13-18 and oneday He will bring His people back to a new earth your 144000 Doctrine is straight up ass you misuse scripture to support your false doctrine like 1 Corinthians 15:44 which ill explain later also the NWT had to change verse 23 in Romans 8 to support the false doctrine about being spirits in heaven Compare the NWT of Romans 8:23 with the KJV Romans 8:23 another way it could be translated in the KJV is "release of our body" there is a big difference in the release of our body and the release from our body the release of our body is the release from the pain of decay and death and that release is the addition of immortality and the kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures on your website proves that the KJV translation of Romans 8:23 is accurate there is not one verse that says that flesh cannot inherit heaven now explaining 1 Corinthians 15:44 the KJV uses the word "natural" your bible uses the word "physical" probably to throw you off to make you think that Paul is talking about two different bodies a physical body and a spirit body but that view is wrong Paul is talking about one body that will one day change we know this because the word "it" is referring to the same body read verses 42-44 in 1 Corinthians 15 the resurrected physical body is called spiritual because it will be filled and directed by Gods Spirit lets read Romans 8:11 you need Gods Spirit
Everyone seems to forget that Jesus isn't the only person in the bible to rise from the dead. there are 6 others - Lazarus, two raised by Elisha, and one from Elijah, Peter and Paul - and there's not a single shred of outside evidence for these either! With all these people rising from the dead, no one finds it odd that no one cared to write about them?
I meant in a first-hand account, a letter, a historical report, a government statement, or heck even by the risen themselves. Not a religious book with an agenda written in third-person.
what do u mean by "biased"? That statement doesn't make sense. I just want contemporary testimony. so far every response from you Nicholas has completely dodged the question. In fact, I forgot an instance in my original post - what about Matt 27: 52-53. He we have dozens if not hundreds of dead people coming out of their graves and NOT A SINGLE PERSON documented it? c'mon
are you even reading the original statement? None of those people saw anyone rising from the dead. The only exception in your list, in biblical terms, was Peter....but I seriously doubt anything claimed to be "written" by a uneducated fisherman. And you accused me of bias...these were all "Christians" with agendas.. Now back to my ORIGINAL query....there is NO outside evidence of Jesus or anyone else rising from the grave. You seem so focused on Jesus, you're ignoring the gist of the question. You keep going off in some other direction unrelated to what I'm talking about. Now, why if people are rising from the dead did not a single, Roman, Greek, Persian, Egyptian, Babylonian, unconverted Jew or anyone else witness, write about, or even mention and/or dismiss these occurrences? if you reply again, please stick to the subject. This is not a Christianity question
Nicholas Porter in that day and age? yes absolutely. That you would say such a thing proves you don't have a grasp of the historical setting of when the old testament was written or historical literature of the day. but your second statement is exactly right. allegory.
The only 'evidence' for the resurrection comes from the Gospels which were written well after the events by non-eye-witnesses who were trying to convert people to Christianity rather than record history (by their own admission). We have no contemporary evidence for Jesus existence let alone his resurrection.
flavius josephus Jewish historian wrote about Jesus as a historical figure. Tacitus a Roman senator and historian also wrote about Jesus. Let's for the sake of argument say that he was a historical figure. If he didn't resurrect then when the "christians" were converting the Jews, wouldn't be easy to just roll the stone back and say "here is your savior bones" that would stop the uprising pretty quickly no?
@@vahegiragol9953 Jospehus did not mention Jesus at all. The testimonium flavianum is a 4th century interpolation added by Eusebius. This has been known for more than 100 years! Christians writers in the 2nd and 3rd centuries actually mentioned how unfortunate it is that Josephus does not mention Jesus! Tacitus was writing long after the events and was only repeating what Christians in Rome were saying. Remember Tacitus was written after both Mark and Matthew. If we assume he was a historical figure why assume he was crucified? or that he received a burial in a tomb. The Romans did not allow the respectful burial of those crucified. Nothing in the story is backed up by evidence or even logic.
@@Matthew_Holton I think you are applying your wisdom of today on how things we're back then. As Trump calls it "fake news." The passing of information was sacred back then. They didn't have websites. Their whole credibility was on the info being correct. Josephus did write about Jesus when he wrote accounts of James. You are right about Romans not allowing proper burial but the Romans didn't have issues with Jesus, it was all done so the Jews would make get out of hand. You have to take all the accounts place them together and see if it falls apart or not.
@@vahegiragol9953 ' I think you are applying your wisdom of today on how things we're back then' . No I have studied the Bible, ancient history, languages and archaeology so I am using the information from the time in question. 'Their whole credibility was on the info being correct' No it wasn't! You don't know this subject. Ancient biographers regularly embellished their accounts of famous people's lives. This was considered normal and not even criticised by others. Accounts from Egypt, Rome, Sumeria, Phoenicia, Greece all did this and admitted doing it. 'the Romans didn't have issues with Jesus' then why was he (allegedly) crucified? The Judean authorities still executed people themselves at this time ( by stoning) they did not need Roman permission. 'it was all done so the Jews would make get out of hand' - that does not make grammatical sense 'You have to take all the accounts place them together and see if it falls apart or not.'. I did and it all fell apart. The original version of Mark (the first gospel) ended with the finding of the empty tomb, the resurrection was added later. The structure of Mark is in a fictional story format (constructed around symmetric themes), not biographical. Mark also draws on Ot scripture for material to construct his narrative and gets things wrongs, such as using the passage about people casting lots forJesus garments, this was taken from the psalms. He thought it was prophecy but is actually Davids account of an attack upon himself. Matthew is juts a copy of Mark with the errors about Judaism taken out (Mark was not a jew and did not know when the sabbath was for example) and he inserted his own material, usually of a very imaginative nature. (Matthew is the one with the zombie invasion of Jerusalem). Luke, like Matthew, is based on Mark. John is much later and also is based on Mark though with a much more aggressively messianic Jesus. John is also the most edited Gospel, with so many changes over time it no longer has a coherent narrative. I suggest you make a proper study of the subject, you will be amazed by what you find (provided you keep an open mind).
@@Matthew_Holton first off, sorry about the errors, my phone sometimes inserts words where they don't belong. Secondly, the creditability of historians were crucial at the time. I would love for you to show point me to some sources because I don't know I'm right, I believe I am. The only thing I don't understand is you say there is no evidence that he existed but then you argue about him not having a tomb. You are kind of all over the place. For example, John Mark was Jewish. He was the cousin of Barnabas who was Jewish. The accounts you are saying are all taken from Mark, but if we both wrote about 9/11 we would sound like we are taking from each other depending on who wrote first. I have a totally open mind about this, and would love to for you to point me to some reading.
"God rose Jesus from the dead" so they're 2 different entities ? Disciples? Nobody has met them. Nobody alive today was there. All we have is written scripture. How does that prove its true?
@@drewmiller2613 Prove it, dumbass. There are no contemporary accounts of Jesus and that is a primary method used by historians to determine accuracy. LMAO!
@Scott Ricks Christians are the only ones that believe jesus rose from the dead. Jahovah , Jews , Muslims , do not believe this. The new testament isn't accepted by many other denominations. It seems outside of intellectual capacity to think it was simply made up. He seems to think people can only know what they've seen and don't have the imagination to make up someone rising from the dead. "If it's written in the bible , it must be true". Is the Christian way of thinking.
@@drewmiller2613 Dumbass? How very Christian of you. 2000 yrs of broken telephone is historical accuracy? Lol Do you read and understand Hebrew ? Nothing was lost in translation? Apocrypha or no apocrypha? Do you accept the new testament? How about the book of Enoch? The dead sea scrolls werent found until the 1940's. Are they even real? If so you didnt have the true word of God until the 1940s!? Are you the far most authority? If so, id like to debate. Theres countless immoral and repulsive scripture condoning genocide, slavery, rape, incest and sexism. There are 100s of errors and contradictions. And when you say historical accuracy you're referring to what? Even if the bible was unchanged from Hebrew 2000 yrs ago to today , How does that prove its true? Noahs Ark is an absolutely ridiculous fairytale. Its not possible. Not to mention it was plagiarized from Egyptian mythology. Amen? Amen Ra ? The Egyptian sun God?
Ha, a fool is known by the folly of his mouth. Free-will, dude. It all hinges on free-will. Because of free-will people can choose evil. An all good and all loving God must not be an arbitrary tyrant, He must create beings with free-will or He is a monster. Creating people and beings who HAVE to love and adore Him is NOT LOVE -- it is subjection, forcing. He created all with free will so those who choose to love are genuine. In the end evil will be destroyed and only those who chose will live.
"He must create beings with free will or he is a monster." ..........OR he doesnt create beings at all and doesnt risk over half of them having to burn in hell for all of eternity..........
قال الله تعالى :( إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَىٰ إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَجَاعِلُ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوكَ فَوْقَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا إِلَىٰ يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ ۖ ثُمَّ إِلَيَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ فِيمَا كُنْتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ ) سورة ال عمران الاية 55 Allah said, O Jesus, I am terminating your life, and raising you to Me, and clearing you of those who disbelieve. And I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return; then I will judge between you regarding what you were disputing) Surat Al-Imran .. Verse 55
Jesus was indeed dead, we have no record of anyone ever surviving a roman crucifixion. There was a creed of eye-witness accounts of Jesus’ Resurrection that date back to months after His death. The empty tomb: even the opponents of Jesus(Romans/Pharisees admit the tomb was empty. For most ancient writings there are at most 2 sources, Yet we have 9 separate sources inside & outside the New Testament confirming eye-witness account of Jesus’ Resurrection. The accusation by opponents at the time was that the disciples would steal Christs body out from the tomb to feed the lie of resurrection. And for this the Romans set up a guard(10-30 Roman soldiers) to guard the tomb day & night, as well as a large stone on the door of the tomb, as well as a roman seal over said stone to secure it. To break this seal was punishable by death, this accusation is towards the disciples who just days before forsook Jesus and ran in fear after He was taken captive by the Sanhedrin. Why then would this very group then change their ways, hearts, minds to be obedient to Christ in midst of persecution & death in future if not for the revelation of Christs resurrection. Jesus appeared to over 500 people for a period of 40 days after His death, to deny their testimony is to baselessly accuse a mass group of people of all being under simultaneous delusion. One of those accounts being that of Saul of Tarsus, stating His transformation of once persecuting & rejecting Christ came by his encounter with the risen Christ on the road towards the city of Damascus. Secular history books record the resurrection event as fact: Josephus(Jewish Antiquities 18.3.3), Thomas Arnold(History of Rome); 2 credible historians of their time recorded the resurrection as fact. In modern times: Frank Morrison, Lee Stroebel, & Josh Mcdowell all professed atheists sought to disprove the resurrection by historical means & by their studies came to the conclusion it had to be true and all 3 converted to Christianity. Jesus Christs body was never found: neither Romans nor Israels leaders could reproduce the body even though it was in their best interest to do so, yet still to this day the tomb is empty. Sir Lionel Luckhoo is in the Guinness book of world record as the greatest defense trial lawyer of all time, He won 245 consecutive murder cases & was knighted twice by Queen Elizabeth. Understanding this mans accolades & expertise in deciphering truth we then look to his quote regarding Christs resurrection: “I say unequivocally the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ is so overwhelming that it compels acceptance by proof which leaves absolutely no room for doubt.” - Sir Lionel Luckhoo (The Question Answered: Did Jesus Rise from the Dead?)
Let's skip the argument about resurrection, true or false, for a moment. Christians say that Jesus died to save us. But I still don't understand it. Save us form what? What would have happened if he hadn't sacrificed himself for us?
Gaudio Wind hi. In a nutshell....... Consequence of sin is death. Jesus came so that man can live (afterlife). He came and fulfilled all the laws (perfect human, without sin). And on the tribulation, all those that believe in Him can be with God.
Hey Gaudio, Came across a site called - www.theresurrectiondecree.com/ looks at the Christian faith with Reason and Logic. Explaining the resurrection events, Trinity and Manuscript Evidence. Answering skeptic accusations and other topics. Very good source of information and encouraging one's faith. For both Christian and Non Christian. Well worth a read.
@First Last Respectfully My Question is...If Jesus didnt die...and lets just say for arguments sake when moses was sent as a messenger also...and then when we commit sins...would we not Call upon God anyway to forgive us or feel regret in our hearts and understand Only God can understand us...why is it necessary for Jesus to die in order to belive in God when there were previous messengers sent and All there message was one? I understand the messengers sacrificed their lives for the greater good...thats understandable...but in comparison to the previous messengers...why was jesus God? what is there to prove that? and who did jesus ask forgivenesss from? and finally if jesus was God and he dies on a cross? are we then confirming that God can die?
Jesus was not killed and was not crucified. He was just God’s prophet and God raised him to him before they humiliate him by crucifying him. And the main reason Jesus will come back again in the future is to die like all humans do. You want evidence read the Quran and you will have evidence and the truth.
jurpleoi psn first its not written, it was send down as a verbal revelation from God to Mohammed. Second, doesn’t matter when it was available. Reading it will prove to u the most important thing for u as human which is the author of the book is God himself speaking to us and humanity in general. Once you arrive to this fact that the speaker is God, then you will know that everything u read is truth and facts. Quran reasons with your brain doesn’t ask u to believe blindly. Reasons with u logically.
jurpleoi psn the author of the Quran claims he sent the gospel and the turah. It’s the same source, of course there will be similarities. Imagine the source is Apple Turah iPhone 7 Gospel I phone 8 Quran master I phone (no more iPhones will be made after this one). U asked for evidence I tried to help I don’t want to argue, believe is something in the heart. U want evidence which can satisfy ur brain and heart, read the Quran. U want to stay lost u can stay lost it’s up to u. Quran: Most certainly the example of Jesus is the same as of Adam, we created him from dust and told him be and it was. If I feel like worshiping a man one day I’ll worship Adam not Jesus cuz Adam is more difficult to create than Jesus.
Dr Karl Pagan you are wrong and please watch ur language, if you have to respect to religion and God that’s your own business and choice but at least respect other people’s feelings. You obviously spoke and judged something without reading it yourself, that’s an unfair, when u go to court they ask you to produce your proof that you telling the truth. So when u judge the Quran, u should say it’s bad because I’m chapter so and so there is X and it’s a contradiction or it’s a mistake and prove how’s it’s a contradiction or a mistake of any kind. What your doing is telling someone you have cancer without taking any medical tests or samples. Produce your proof. Regarding bible it’s easy to find the proof. But show me ur proof in the Quran.
"I simply reject the notion of "Christianity" as a meaningful, unified concept" "I therefore also reject any attempt at blanket statements covering what "Christianity"" So if a blanket statement shows unification, you reject it, and you reject that there is anything worth mentioning that unifies them? That's akin to saying .."i reject the notion of squares, and i also reject anything you say that might show that a four sided object is "square-like""
There is some notion of resurrection from paganism in 1 Corinthians chap 15 verses from 35. Paul relates resurrection to seeds and crops. So it is clear that Paul was trying to make that connection. That is purely pagan and spoken to a ex-pagan audience
@@stephenmarcil94 Its all laughs and insults. You just wait and see! but at that point, there will be no turning back, no do-overs, no "I'm sorry I didn't know". It will be too late.
@@eyeh8teliberalshat you hate are facts! The Jesus seminar, which involved 250 scholars, optimistic, pessimistic, apologetic and secular concluded as a group that the Jesus of history simply cannot be identified. Does that mean he did not exist? Certainly not. But it does mean, whomever he MAY have been, he simply escapes the historical record. First century Judea was one of the most documented periods in history. No one seems to mention a movement spreading through the holy land and rooted in a resurrected prophet. NOTHING. JESUS IS NOTHING MORE THAN A FIGMENT OF THE SUPERSTITIOUS IMAGINATION. THOSE ARE THE FACTS. SO HATE LIBERALS ALL YOU WANT, I'M SURE THEY DON'T LIKE YOU EITHER.
@@Strongisland435 The Shroud has been revealed as a fraud. The so called eyewitness accounts cannot be authenticated. They don't appear for "decades" in any observable, historical way.
It's not physical evidence, but evidence via process of elimination. The problem with denying the resurrection is that you have to explain something that would take leaps and bounds to do so: why would somebody in first century Judea believe in someone rising from the dead into a glorified body ahead of everyone else who has yet to experience the resurrection. In fact, you can even go as far as ask why anyone in first century Judea would believe in a Son of God at all. The problem with even beginning to assert that they could would go against any basic cultural understanding of what the worldview, live, thought process, history, scripture, and so on was like. To us, the idea of "the Son of God" is an easy concept to analyze. But in first century Judea, the idea would be unthinkable.
@@ZerogunRivale There is no such thing as "evidence by process of elimination." If you claim to know an answer for something, then you must show that answer is correct, you can't just pretend it's the default position because other explanations haven't been proved. Your problem is you are inherently biased and seem to think your extra ordinary claim somehow is the default position, when it can't be demonstrated in any reasonable manner. "The problem with denying the resurrection is that you have to explain something that would take leaps and bounds to do so:" The burden of proof is on you. I don't have to explain anything. Historically humans have written many legends and fiction stories. The problem with accepting the resurrection is that extra ordinary claims require extra ordinary evidence. A story is not that. "why would somebody in first century Judea believe in someone rising from the dead into a glorified body ahead of everyone else who has yet to experience the resurrection." Because they were tricked into believing such, just like with all religions. You don't have any eyewitness accounts, just stories written years to decades after the fact by people that never met Jesus. Why would you consider that credible evidence for an extra ordinary event? People believe in Chupacabra and all kinds of crazy stuff. Everybody's got a story. It's like asking why people in the 7th century would believe Muhammad witnessed a vision of Allah. "To us, the idea of "the Son of God" is an easy concept to analyze" It's easy to conceptualize what you have been indoctrinated into blindly accepting, sure, but that doesn't change the fact that the trinity is one of the most ridiculous concepts in all religions when looked at from an outside third party unbiased perspective. "But in first century Judea, the idea would be unthinkable." How so? They lived under the Roman empire which was polytheistic and has many gods and god sons / daughters. What on earth makes you think that concept was original? Sons of gods goes back to ancient Egypt, dude. It was nothing new then, and is nothing new now.
@@modifythephasevariance6752 I'm here because WLC is deceiving people with subjective conjecture that actually proves nothing. Lies and deceptions need to be called out.
The NT and OT is referring to death burial and resurrection of the inner man, the carnal flesh not the literal body. As flesh and blood does not inherit the kingdom. Unfortunately the teachings of Yeshua were corrupted by Rome and her pagan doctrines inserted. The virgin birth, the crucifixion, resurrection were not literal but spiritual and have deeper meaning. Like Yeshua said the kingdom is like treasure hidden in a field. You wont find the truth unless you dig deep for it. It's not lying on the surface and only the spirit can reveal the truth.
That's not what the BIble says. Paul states within his letters that we will be resurrected into incorruptible, physical bodies covered in the glory of God. Jesus himself reaffirmed a physical resurrection (hence why he resurrected with a physical body first). This isn't a Roman invention, this is a very Biblical concept. The OT resurrection was said to be a physical resurrection as well. Pretty much every rabbinic scholar agrees on this.
No one has ever been able to answer the question " If Jesus was real, then why didn't he ever write a book of his own? Why did he rely on imperfect men to write his story for him? Why did it take multiple apostles to write the gospels and at different times?
He wrote thee book (the bible). Jesus is God. The bible is God breathed It all speaks of Jesus. In types and shadows. Lo Jesus is contained in the volume of the book. 16All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17that the man of Godb may be complete, equipped for every good work.
I find the gross abilities of apologists to obfuscate, obmit and circumvent the truth to be utterly mind-boggling. Jerusalem was a hotbed of intrigue and evil intentions, graft and corruption, collusion and bribery, robbers and thieves and those in dire need. Among this group, motives (a tomb and body (of a stranger) dripping in excess with some seventy pounds of the most expensive oils and spices know to man), means (enough men to remove the stone) and opportunities (the tomb was left unattended for a least sixteen hours and as much as sixty hours), abounded. Accordingly, there are just too many practical reasons why Jesus' tomb could be empty, all without the need for a miracle. The above and the following serve to dismantle the "miracle only" position and claim of apologists. Jesus, along with his disciples, being from Galilee, was a stranger in Jerusalem with no family, friends or acquaintances there that we know of. Accordingly, the idea that Joseph took Jesus' body and placed it in a tomb is very suspect, on its face. It is the least probable of all the possibilities. Joseph, a man of position, prestige and wealth, had too much to loose before his fellow Sanhedrin members and the ever paranoia filled and suspicious Romans. Pointedly, there is no indication that idiots ever made it to that august body, the Sanhedrin. Accordingly, no member of the Sanhedrin would be so stupid as to bury the body of what had been shown to be, just another discredited, convicted and crucified self-proclaimed messiah. In Acts 5:36, the words of the great Jewish scholar and Sanhedrin member, Gameliel attest to this. Consequently, Matthews' (27:60) assertion that Joseph of Arimathea buried Jesus in his own family tomb is totally ludicrous and certainly a mythical creation as are a lot of the material in that book.
Craig's commentary shows an acute lack of imagination on his part and his inability to follow critical steps in the evolution processes. When I read the Egyptian Book of the Dead and other related materials, I can easily see the development of the idea of a resurrection. Who would/could ever believe that the heart continues to live after death. The ancient Egyptians did. Whoever wrote that: "God sought a man after his own heart." and "..you have been weighed (as the Egyptians weighed the heart) evidently knew much of what the Egyptians thought of the heart. Also, if man can think of parts of a body being torn apart and scattered as was Osiris' and then be reassembled to a functioning entity again, as did the Egyptians, then certainly he can think of a Jesus style resurrection. The Egyptians' society had all the ideas in hand for the making of a Jesus type resurrection. Accordingly, Jesus' resurrection was no more than the sum of notions gained from the Egyptians. Now certainly Craig knows this all too well. Yet, for reasons know only to him, he persists in following a trail of deliberate and intentional ignorance and therefore intellectual dishonesty. He knows better. If the truth matters then let it be told.
Here is what prevents the Bubonic Plague from killing people, from Wikipedia; (Bubonic plague outbreaks are controlled by pest control and modern sanitation techniques.) In the years 1347 to 1351, 1/3rd of the population of Europe died to the Bubonic Plague. Parents would have been praying to Jesus of Christianity to protect themselves and their family from harm and children would have prayed to Jesus of Christianity to protect their parents from harm. Did Jesus tell them how to prevent Bubonic Plague when they were praying on how to protect themselves from harm? 1/3rd of the population died. The reason we don't usually have Bubonic Plague around is because of the modern sanitation and pest control. Was that to much for Jesus to explain to the Christians in Europe?
This is classic Argument from Personal Incredulity, Argument from Ignorance and Hearsay! Not a single person wrote about this Jesus person during his supposed lifetime! If this isn't a problem for you... you'll believe anything
@@berwynsigns4115 Tired and weak argument! The other people were just men!!! You ignorant simpleton! Your guy was supposed to be the son of God!!!!! And not a peep was mentioned!
warching this video had once again no scientific evidence. but it made me realize when you look at the big pic, its a concept without death to who he was, he could never be who he is
Jesus was a prophet of God like all the prophets God sent, he was not killed or crucified, God raised him to save him from humiliation as he’s his servant. And he will return again to die like all humans do and fight those who insulted him and called him God or Son of God which he never claimed. He always made a big destination between him and God. Bible: “The father is better than I, the father is better than All, I can of myself do nothing without the well of the father” Quran: “Certainly the example of Jesus is the same of Adam, we created him from dust and told him be and it is” The Quran is the evidence of God’s existence and truth speaker.
We do not have any contemporary evidence that Jesus even existed. Claiming we have evidence for him rising from the dead is the most fallacious wish fulfilment.
@Waterybint * We have no contemporary evidence and no writings by either Jesus or his disciples. We have only accounts by non eye-witnesses written long after the alleged events. The first docetic writings predate the alleged time of Jesus, explain that!
@jurpleoi psn the point is that the gospel of mark was written by a non-jew, non eye-witness, decades after the alleged events using no quoted sources and in fact using a bad translation of OT scripture to cobble together a fictional story format advert for christianity. As historical evidence for something goes, thats about as bad as you can get.
I was a born again, spirit filled believer. The real God brought me out of Christianity. It's taken time to deprogram myself from orthodox christianity. I am now free from sin, religious dogma, guilt, having to give money to a church, or waste my time going to church with a bunch of hypocrites. Jesus is a deception. The real creator and God of the universe will deliver all those misled by Christianity and its dogma.
You can't refute that which has no supporting evidence in the first place. He's just giving an opinion. It's like giving a spiel on how blue is the best color and giving all my personal reasons why I believe that to be true and then stating my position is true because nobody can refute my subjective opinion. I mean how can you argue against the sky and ocean being blue? Shit evidence is shit evidence and Craig wouldn't know evidence if it slapped him in the face. That's why he can't come up with his own arguments and instead regurgitates old outdated philosophy from the past and other apologists.
@@zachtastic625 I don't think you realize how deductive arguments work. They don't depend on evidence like an inductive argument. Deductive arguments are necessarily true if the premises are true and the conclusion follows. Armed with the knowledge I just supplied you with, it is your responsibility to show that either the premises are not true or the conclusion does not follow.
@@captainunload Without evidence, the premise can not be confirmed. If the premise cannot be confirmed, then the conclusion is speculative. All apologetic claims have at least one of the following. 1. Assumption 2. Faulty logic/fallacy 3. Speculative premise 4. A narrow or outdated scope of reality that suggests there cannot be any other possibilities. I'd be happy to demonstrate that if you want to pick an particular argument and focus on it. Claims without proof are useless. Anybody can speculate about what ifs. I care about what IS and what can be demonstrated. Anybody can come up with some half baked sophistry to justify a belief. You need more than that. Arguments are not proof in themselves.
@@zachtastic625 So, in the case of the Cosmological Argument, which of the premises do you maintain are without evidence? 1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause. 2. The universe began to exist. Which of these statements do you disagree with?
@@captainunload #1 cannot be proved, #2 is an assumption that nobody can know. Simple. Cosmological argument has nothing to do with god, all it suggests is that the universe likely has a cause, but again, nobody knows. This is why logic by itself with no facts is useless.
Mithun Mith ok, but that would create problems. 1. By asking “god” i am assuming that one of the variables is always constant (even though it is never proven or validated in any sort of way) and I can experiment with it. (Also not true, because apparently, asking “god” is not the same as observing something concrete in space or time) 2. Sure I can do my research, and yes it proves that people can die and come back to life, but a body starts to lose functions shortly after holistically dying, and then after maybe a day, bacteria in the gut start to decompose. Unless proven by experiment, I don’t think it’s possible to restore a man back to life after three days, especially considering that the people resuscitating today are aided by medical personnel, while Yeshua was left alone in a cave.
"But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith. 15In that case, we are also exposed as false witnesses about God. For we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead, but He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to be pitied more than all men." and there is no evidence for resurection, case closed
I simply reject the notion of "Christianity" as a meaningful, unified concept, since the various interpretations and doctrines are so different that agreeing on Jesus = Saviour is meaningless minimalism on the level with "Abrahamic religions". I therefore also reject any attempt at blanket statements covering what "Christianity" leads to or preaches, or what morals can be deduced from "Christianity". If history is any guide, it's that "Christianity" is as diverse as "Christians" (aka "humans")
@Rep Raptor98 creator does not need to be a creation. then it limitizes his characteristics. you make a computer, you don't require to be that computer.
r rahman Actually quite the opposite. He became man to identify with man. He cane specifically to die & to rise. I’m doing so he conquered death. If anything it is way deeper and shows God’s love. He could have wiped out this earth. He chose to do something incredible. He chose to come and interact directly with man.
Not entirely accurate to claim Pagan myths of dying and rising gods are utterly unlike the death and resurrection of Jesus. Mythic symbology around the vegetative cycle accounts for some, but not all, such Pagan resurrection beliefs & going back far enough there were at least some claims of historicity too. Major distinctions arise by the time we get to current Christianity. But the idea of resurrection/perfection was not new back then & it didn't have to be, to be powerfully transformative.
Because no one in the first century there were very few christians--the gnostics. The utterly rejected the idea of a human, physical jesus. No one was claiming a physical jesus existed--his resurrection was spiritual. No one bothered to write down jesus' name during his supposed lifetime. Not one person. No one quotes from a gospel until around 150CE.
That's normal. They literally have no arguments supporting Jesus, just that "some people in the past were convinced it was true," not that they witnessed it or who witnessed it, not to mention every single account of Jesus came 20 years after the events in question. It's laughable how desperate apologists are today. They simply can't even acknowledge that their religion is faith based, that's the funny thing, and Muslims claim the same exact nonsense about the Quran. People can be convinced things are true, it doesn't make them actually true. Millions upon millions of people today are convinced of false beliefs.
He forgot to present any evidence that Jesus returned from the dead. he also didn't present any evidence fore the 6 people in the Bible who returned from the dead before Jesus's resurrection... or for the people in the bible who returned from the dead after Jesus' resurrection.
@@zachtastic625 To find Him you have to seek Him with a genuine heart. If you truly seek you'll find Him but if you hoping God doesn't exist so you can cling to your sins, He will send you to hell.
My favorite part of this comment section is that no one can dispute Craig's statements. Aside from mocking him, not much has been said.
Spectral Corruption how about the fact that there are many stories of immaculate conceptions, virgin births, scapegoat deaths and resurrections which pre-date that story told in the bible. What possible good reason is there to assume that the Christians have it right, when the very essence of their story is borrowed from other, more ancient religions?
LOL! Craigs claims hold no merit in the first place. They haven't been proved true. Craig is a con artist.
Mark Stone... You have a good point. I asked the same questions. Read the book "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel. You might be rolling your eyes by now.. you won't lose anything by reading his book. Written by an atheist.
@@uSpeakTruth The book is garbage, sorry. The case for Christ is extremely weak and has no contemporary accounts or supporting archaeological evidence. It's a double fail in historical standards.
@@Mark-Stone Wrong, the most of them are not inmaculate virgins, I red about a God that was born by a virgin but,
When Jesus comes to live in you, you have all the evidence you need.
Random Person can you reply so I can remember to come back here to finish reading y’all debate
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Random Person All religions are cults.
Sticky Steve Ron Wyatt discovered the Ark in turkey and the Turkish government confirmed it in June 1987.
The oldest written language on earth is Chinese pictography. If the flood happened, we would see it expressed in Chinese. And we do. The word flood for instance is made up of several other smaller pictographic words/symbols. Flood is made of the symbols “Boat, Water, 8 people”. RUclips God in Ancient China. The Yellow Emperor was a Christian, who believed in Shang Di which means “the spirits have one lord”.
If women were made from mans rib, the Bible doesn’t say he put it back, so ribs would have to grow back... ribs are the only bone in the human body that grow back.
The UN symbol is the flat earth, they laugh at you. Operation FishBowl is when they shot nukes at the dome and you can see pictures of it. It’s called operation fishbowl, they laugh with tears running down their faces at you. Look up P900 Nikon star videos. They are obviously not what we were told.
NASA means to deceive in Hebrew. They admit that the blue marble picture of earth is an artist rendering. Compare the pictures of earth from US to Japan and Russia, the propaganda varies, every earth is different.
And remember, the Bible says that Lucifer runs the show down here, so this unbelief in vast worldwide conspiracy, shows you don’t know your Bible. Yes, the world is fallen and evil. Try telling a mason that Lucifer doesn’t exist, he’d respond “oh we are counting on you thinking that you stupid sheep retard.”
There is more historical evidence for Jesus of Nazareth being a living breathing person that existed and was crucified by Pontus Pilot then any other ancient world person other than Josephus the Historian, and that’s what 99 percent of scholars would agree on. Anyone who doubts that Jesus existed is so pathetically ignorant, they don’t even know what their secular priests (scientists) know to be true. And they call themselves science believers, so pathetic. So arrogantly dumb.
@@johnbecht3158 I'm not convinced what you wrote is factual. You are missing any references.
You say a human rib removed can grow back.
>>> "The eight centimeters of missing bone and one centimeter of missing cartilage did partially repair after six months." See? Not a whole rib. Just a tiny piece, partially repaired!
Ark found in Turkey? I saw that video.
>>> It is more likely that the Noah's Ark story was made up after someone find a boat on a hillside.
>>> And no way a boat could carry two of every animal from the entire animal kingdom, plus food and water for them, etc.
>>> No way 8 people could shovel feces fast enough, and water and feed all the animals, too.
Ignorance, arrogance, fear doesn't allow some people to get it, see it and believe it. I pray for them and that they will be enlightened by the Holy Spirit!
"Ignorance and arrogance"; I get the same from Muslims. Very strong argument, I will believe in both now.
@ Same for Christians. They don't know who wrote the gospels. They know their first names but nothing more, and they contradict each other.
@@mightbyson There 500 men thay saw
@@mightbyson Jesus Ascension
@ There's no proof. Just ink on paper from people who wrote it, and you nothing about them.
Everyday I say in my heart Christ died for our sins was buried and rose again
Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed - john 20:29
Sorry It’s not that easy to believe in a supernatural being that has never once given me evidence of existence.
Exactly, it's based on 100% pure blind faith and that's it.
Hello My name is Adriana and i am just gonna tell you That Jusus
(the massiah and annoited one) is the saviour........And we know that jusus is not Dead he is still alive.
You are cute!
I find it funny how people say things like why didn't Jesus just write his own book? Why were the gospels written by different people. Answer this question. Why is it that all of the new testament was written by men which were hundred's and even thousands of miles away from each other, they didn't have the internet or means of communication except for traveling by foot or horse, so tell me how is it that they all wrote about the same God?
Well that could explain all the contridations in the Bible
@@kianaprovost182 Such as?... assuming that you mean "contradictions"
@@mynameiswrm www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2018/10/top-20-most-damning-bible-contradictions/a
@@kianaprovost182You must not have even read the comments in some of those. The fact that different individuals told of different details in each encounter DOES NOT make them contradictions. It only adds different information to the whole picture. Just like at a crime scene where multiple individuals give their own individual recollection of what they say happened. Everyone will give different details but that doesn't make them contradictions. It actually adds to the descriptiveness and credibility of the story given that this allows a more detailed and specific account. The Bible has actually been proven historically as one of the most go to, informative sources for historians and archeologists due to the overwhelming evidence of it's reliability and accuracy of historical information.
@@mynameiswrm There are two glaring contradictions in the Bible between the Old and New Testaments:
1) Jesus doesn't qualify to be the Messiah of the Old Testament (Hebrew Bible).
2) Eternal torture was fraudulently invented, because it doesn't exist in the Hebrew Bible or Judaism. (The word Hell was inserted into translations of the Hebrew Bible.)
Two of the many ways Jesus is known to not be the real Messiah: (per aish . com "Why Jews Don't Believe in Jesus" A "must see" page.)
The Messiah (in one coming - no second coming in Judaism) will:
C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world - on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9)
I wonfer how Craig so confidently proclaims what was on the mind of Jesus followers in 35 AD when we have no writings from them and no reason to believe they truly believed in the resurrection
There are 27 books that were written by them within 100 years from His crucification. At least 7 of those are accepted by any NT scholar. So yeah, we have a pretty strong idea of what was going on in their heads...
@@danielbernardesfalcao2648 The 7 books you're referring to were written by Paul, a man who was not a Jesus follower im 35 AD. And the books Paul wrote were not written until the 50s.
So I again, I point out that we have little indication as to what the Jesus follower movement was doing circa 35 AD.
@lostfan5054 that's literally 20 years apart. Historically, it's nothing. We also have the knowledge that Paul had contact with the original disciples and that their vision of the gospel matched. To the degree that Bart Ehrman acknowledges that we know the earliest creeds of the Christian church, dating back to one year after the crucifixion...
@@lostfan5054- gullible stupidity is a bliss! Have you heard of the Dead Sea scrolls!? Those documents are additional evidence of what we already have. Get behind me satan!
Anybody knows the names of the scholars he cited?
The mental gymnastics to explain zombies are real its unreal
Some of you are missing the point. Read one of his books. Or watch his other videos.
I've watched his videos.....and they are a joke. He tries to label "assertions" as "evidence. What bible thumpers like Craig *NEVER* address is the fact the gospels are *ANONYMOUS* accounts written *LONG* after the alleged events. There is not *ONE* contemporary account of Jesus.... *NOT ONE* . There is not *ONE* eyewitness account of the resurrection.... *NOT ONE*
Why? His standards of evidence are inconsistent and his reasoning is almost completely void of logic.
Per William Lane Craig, Jews believe in Heaven and Hell, but they have no concept of eternal punishment in Judaism. You can verify that with writings by Rabbis, such as at aish . com
Circular fallacy. His first Scriptural premise asserts Jesus rose and then he quotes the Scriptures as his second premise for verification.
@Phillip Hickman They may 'believe' but do not KNOW what actually happened. You have mere conjecture on text claims from unknown authors with no original manuscripts. There is nothing to 'admit' until you can show real physical evidence for your physical claim. Pathetic error in scholarship.
@Phillip Hickman You avoid but fail to evade the issue. Where is your evidence for these claims?
@Phillip Hickman Yes, physical evidence for your text claim of their physical existence.
@Phillip Hickman Severity? I thought he was a God of love? I do not mean visions, I mean proof for your string of claims. You make historical assertions with no physical evidence. King Tut at least left a corpse.
Robert Light in an atheistic worldview there is no love, or right or wrong, so either way it’s meaningless to you. Dr Craig is explaining how the glory of of Christ, for instance the fact that we can personally experience Christ and the Holy Spirit, is enough to prove God in its own, but he is also showing to the atheist why today’s top historical scholars are accepting that the truth of Christianity is the most likely explanation for the historical evidence regarding the events of the Ressurection of Christ.
Hebrews 5 : 7 " During the days of Jesus's life on earth he offered up prayers and petitions to the One who could save us from death ( spiritual) and he was heard because of his reverent submission."
@Christian Slayer The same reason you don't have to believe in fire to get burnt. And you're talking about eternal life vs biological life anyway.
Well if they couldn't answer it, they must not be very smart. The simple reason is this: because of Adam, all will die. It doesn't matter if you believe it or not. You will eventually die. But to have eternal life, you must believe Jesus died for your sins, and rose again. Think of it like being in a room on fire, and a firefighter is coming to save you, and he says "Trust me". Saying "Oh I don't believe the fire is real, I don't need you" is foolish. All Jesus simply asks is that you obey him and trust him... To sum it all up:
Death needs no belief to work for us, it's default. but eternal life does, because only Jesus gives us eternal life.
It is so ironic that we automatically discount the resurrection, but yet we ignore or choose to put off the reality of death. Death is such an extreme yet it is real. You look at a body and it is evident something was there that no longer is. Our spirit is eternal. I’ve had two experiences where my spirit nearly left my body. I was raised in a Christian family. Thought it was all religion, then one day a tangible presence and assurance encountered me at church. God is real & Jesus is real and alive. The resurrection is just as extreme as death is. If Christ wasn’t real we wouldn’t be debating him 2,000 years later and the reason God limited evidence is so that we would have to accept him by faith but he gave us enough evidence to take that step of faith. Regardless, we will all die someday & then we will know. Our spirits continue on after this body physically dies. Lastly, it’s funny we use more logic and faith to reject and deny Christ than we do to accept him. Also, there is evil and also a devil. I’ll be praying for everyone who commented. One day our faith will be our eyes and that goes for everyone whether your faith is accepting Christ or rejecting him....if anyone actually chooses to seek him you will find him !
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Nonsense. We discount the resurrection because it has only conjecture and unverifiable stories in support of it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I have no reason to think Jesus was anything more than a normal person running a cult whose followers deified him. Death is the end. The sooner we realize this the better things will get. Believers care more about their fantasy based afterlife than their life today and as a result ignore the environment and treat the planet and it's other lifeforms like shit.
cont. to truly be a follower of Jesus one must believe with all your heart he was the son of the one living God, that he died for our sins and was resurrected by the Father fulfilling the prophesies. One must love him by loving the Father and walking as Jesus did to the best of our abilities. We all must pick up the cross and follow him. Read Mark chap XII and John chap XIV
Repeatedly Ignoring these *FACTS* proves that religion has indoctrinated and radicalized you to be a dogmatic brainwashed unthinking dishonest fundamentalist fool.
*FACTS:*
Correlation doesn't imply causation. There are about a quadrillion uninhabitable planets out there and at least 8 of them are in our solar system. The big bang is the expansion of existing condensed matter. Nobody know if the changing universe is eternal or was created. If without evidence you claim there is an eternal God, then you can save a step and assume the changing universe is eternal. So, it's quite likely that earth just got lucky in its formation and delusional folks are praising an imaginary God.
Neither abiogenesis nor evolution needs God. The evil COVID19, influenza, malaria, etc., are DNA/RNA based. They can't be God's creation or naturally modified versions of it due to imperfections because by definition God is neither evil nor imperfect. Since nature by itself has created the living RNA/DNA of those diseases, then nature by itself is capable of creating life from non-life.
Religion is a scam that uses fear tactics to scam the gullible fools who obviously lack critical thinking. Religion threatens the fools with an imaginary hell for not believing in an imaginary God, and rewards their gullibility with an imaginary heaven. Salvation is a solution to a problem the religion scam has created. It's like a charlatan going around cutting gullible fools with a knife in order to sell bandaid.
The sin-sacrifice story of Jesus implies a superstitious savage irrational God who values blood-sacrifice, which was common back then - e.g. sacrificing a goat for a new home. Decades after Jesus, the delusional superstitious hoaxer Christian writers created the resurrection hoax by making up fake testimonials that the disciples witnessed an empty tomb & a risen Jesus. If Jesus had Godly powers, he'd still be alive to prove he has Godly powers. Resurrection & ascendance to heaven is a hoax that easily dupes the gullible fools.
Without the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, Christianity would have no way to apply the power Jesus put at our disposal.
I want to believe in Jesus my parents are missionaries and I’ve had a strong Christian upbringing. However I can’t help if I have a very skeptic all mind so I find it hard to believe in Jesus. Can someone help me answer my questions? On question I really struggle with is how can we say that Christianity is the only truth? I just find it really hard to believe that there is only one right religion out of all. Everyone thinks their religion is truth. Then how am I supposed to know which one it is? Also, I have a really hard time believe that there is a God that actually cares and listens to me. That just doesn’t sound real. Like why would God care about my problems? If he did he would have answered my prayers and not made me suffer so much in this disgusting world. Also, why do some people get saved and others don’t? Psychopaths are born messed up because of their brain, you can’t really blame them for the sins they do. Why would God send them to hell? Overall, God just doesn’t seem fair to me. Especially in the Bible, he made Israelites the “chosen people”. So if you were born as an Israelite then you’re good and don’t have to worry about going to hell, but if you were born in some different tribe or nationality, you were immediately a bad person??? People don’t get to choose where they are born!
Everything happens for a reason..We can't explain everything...no one can...Babies get aborted everyday..Innocent people get killed...The world is always at war...The Bible says that all these things must be full filled before He comes...There is evil in the world...Satan fell from Heaven...The evil he does has been permitted..But not forever...Why do we go through tough times? It teaches us Patience..Helps us build a strong faith...If we were all rich beyond our wildest dreams...Who would have a need for God...It is only when we fail and fall and get back up that we can appreciate the things we had..And be grateful and thankful for what little blessings we do have...Money and Fame corrupts people..We see this in Hollywood and politics...But the best of us have been through the worst...It makes us stronger..wiser...More Just in our decisions...It's the great polishing of our lives during this Journey to become closer to God...The truth is...No one will ever understand the Bible until the read it many times...And we all can explain these things until our toungues fall out .But it won't help you much until you read it for your self and discover it's depths and pray for Wisdom understanding and Guidance..
Leila Zharmenova I think similat thoughts too
I have a situation that is kinnda similar i was born and raised as a muslim but i had a lot of doubts about islam growing up cause it was very sexist and had alot of things that i felt was unfair like only muslims go to heaven so i left it and gradually became an atheist but then i felt really empty cause i used to believe that god is always with me protecting me and loving me so i felt really alone so i decided to try and regain my faith in god first then search for a religion and i succeed in regaining my faith in god i strongly believe in god now and tried to regain my faith in islam but i am having a hard time doing it and i am searching for the religion that is right but i can't find a religion that is perfect and i believe that if a religion is really from god it has to be all perfect but all religions to me has some stuff that doesn't sound right
All religions cannot be right because they oppose each other. There can only be one truth. Something is either a fact or it’s not a fact. Hindus believe in multiple gods while Christians believe in one God. Buddhist believe in reincarnation while Christians believe in one life and one death. Someone has to be wrong which is why all religions can’t be right. Do you understand what I am saying? We have free will to choose which one we think is right but it doesn’t mean we are right. I personally choose christianity. I have questions as well but I choose to lean on my faith. Plus, the God of Christianity offers redemption, salvation, forgiveness, and love to all who open their hearts to “him”. I don’t know of another deity who does that... only God.
@@jessicaleigh3286 " I personally choose Christianity. I have questions as well but I choose to lean on my faith. Plus, the God of Christianity offers..." so you choose the truth you like the most for what it offers.. like buying a used car or by personal convenience?
Nope. There is no evidence that the disciples believed Jesus rose from the dead. We have no testimony from any of the disciples.
Craig is a liar.
You need to read the bible a lil bit to make your statement.
@deathchronicles6960
You need to learn the history of your scriptures a little bit, kid.
Come back when you actually have a rebuttal.
@@cygnusustus…And Jesus Christ said; “get behind me satan!” What ever you claim is a lie from your father the devil!
@bootsie280
And honest, intelligent people say "Get thee behind me, Jesus! Whatever you say is a lie!"
Got any actual arguments, child?
I 100% believe in the crucifixion and the resurrection. But sometimes I have doubt and I’m really scared I’m not gonna make it to Heaven 😭
I can talk to you about it give me a way to talk to you
If you have put faith in Jesus Christ as God and His atoning sacrifice & confirmation of divinity in the resurrection then you are saved, born again, endowed with the Holy Spirit. That very spirit is your assurance of Salvation, you should have confidence in that, knowing that you are indeed redeemed from hell & death just as Jesus displayed in the resurrection that same Spirit is in us.
@@ricoparadiso I'm Christian lol I just want to ask a fellow Christian questions
Just give it to God & He will work it out for you.
Never be afraid to question your faith. There is valid reason to doubt claims that aren't believed based on evidence, but based on childhood indoctrination passing beliefs from one generation to the next, regardless of truth.
There is zero contemporary evidence for Jesus existence let alone resurrection.
@Lynn Alice Really, then please provide some contemporary evidence for Jesus existence. If you can't do that then you have to admit my post was correct and apologise.
@Lynn Alice Evidence would be, for example, historically credible accounts from contemporary sources mentioning Jesus with sufficient corroboration to identify him as the man who may or may not have inspired the gospel accounts. I am not claiming Jesus never existed, I am just pointing out the lack of contemporary evidence for his existence. I would also ask what evidence you have that Christians were ever persecuted?
Tacitus was writing long after the events and was just commenting on what Christians in Rome claimed to believe. Hence he is third hand evidence and not contemporary. The gospel of Mark predates Tacitus so people could just be repeating its stories to Tacitus (the same goes for Pliny). Josephus does not mention Jesus, the Testimonium Flavianum is a 4th century interpolation by Eusebius. A fact acknowledged by biblical scholars for more than 100 years.
@Lynn Alice I said zero contemporary evidence and that is true. If the events described in the gospels had actually happened then someone would have mentioned them around the time they were alleged to have happened. Not a single one of the many people writing around the early to mid 1st century mention anything. Atheism is not a religion in the same way that the off switch is not a TV channel and not playing tennis isn't a sport. Ido not say that jesus never existed, I point out the fact that no contemporary evidence exists and it doesn't!
Matt Hilton Josephus (yes), Suetonius, and Tacitus all mention Jesus of Nazareth
@@justicebjorke3201 No, Jospephus does not mention Jesus. The Testimonium Flavianum is a 4th century interpolation by Eusebius and the 'who is known as the Christ' insertion later is known to be a later interpolation as that part of Josephus is talking about Jesus son of Damnius, later high priest in Jerusalem. Tacitus and Seutonius are writing even later and only recounting what Christians of that period were telling them. This is after the gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke had been written. With the story from the gospels being disseminated among Christian sects its hardly surprising they pass the Euhemerised version of Jesus on to Tacitus and Seutonius (and Pliny). None of these are contemporary (not even Josephus). Which is the point I made above.
But can you answer my question? What would have happened to me if there was no Christ sacrifice? Was I already damned for the sins of ancient people, unless Christ died on a cross? Who imposed this condition? God? God told his son that he needed his blood in order to make him pleased and calm down so that it would be possible to forgive me for the sins of ancient people?
That is somethi the human mind cant comprehend
There is no proof outside of the Bible Manuel playbook for world domination and human control call the Bible, that two thousand years ago a Jesus of Nazareth was crucified and reason, no historical evidence no books from that day, the last book of the Old Testament Malachi never spoke of a crucified risen Savior, but a judge of the wicked was coming, how could such a important scripture be left out, a crucified and risen Savior !!!
@@silasmcclain8123 umm... Isaiah 53? I'm not too bright but kinda sounds right to me no?
Just be a nice person, enjoy life. Thats the answer. Saves you money and time.
@@vahegiragol9953 i wanna point out Isaiah 53 is talking about the nation of Israel. Of course you won't know that since you only know Isaiah 53, not Isaiah 49, 50,51,52, 54, 55 etc
The story of Jesus' death and resurrection is a perfect example of PLAGIARISM from older pagan literature. Tammuz was a god of Assyria, Babylonia and Sumeria. He was also celebrated with the cross symbol (I dare any Christian to look this up). Ctesias author of Persika, wrote about Tammuz. The ancient poet has perpetuated his memory in rhyme.
“Trust, ye saints, in your risen Lord;
For the pains which Tammuz endured
Our salvation have procured.” (400 B.C.) This was written before any book in the New Testament of the Bible. Before the Jesus story. And the legend of Tammuz goes back thousands of years. Doesn’t the Bible story of the death of Jesus, sound just like Tammuz? Risen Lord who died and suffered pain to bring salvation to humanity? Also celebrated with the cross symbol? Isn’t that what the Bible says about Jesus? Yes. Christians: This is not by mere coincidence. So don’t excuse it as such. So why believe in a Bible man who walked on water, was born of a virgin and raised from the dead? Alot of the Bible is based upon stolen pagan concepts predating it. There was NO virgin birth. Its a fable. And that's only ONE example out of the hundreds I could give you. The ancient deity of Tammuz came WAY before the story of Jesus. Even in ancient Mesopotamian clay tablets dating to the Amorite Period dating from the periods 2000-1600 BC containing teachings of Tammuz and the legend are currently held in the Louvre museum in Paris. This was written BEFORE ANY book in the bible. Older than the Book of Genesis which was written around 1440 B.C. Look THAT up. NO BOOK can tell you what a god wants. And NO BOOK could ever prove WHO or WHAT created us. And no book can ever prove that what you worship had a son who was sinless, born of a virgin and rose from the dead. The Bible even mentions the worship of Tammuz in Ezekiel 8:14. Bible wroters were WELL AWARE of these pagan teachings. And if they were WELL AWARE of it, it should be NO SHOCK to you that they stole these pagan concepts. It JUST like Christians who decorate their trees on Dec 25th. Smh. Dec 25th is a PAGAN holiday and the tree decorating is forbidden in the book of Jeremiah because it says that its a detestable practice of PAGANS (Jeremiah 10:1-5, BIBLE). But YET Christians STILL decorate their trees every year and celebrate on December 25th which is a PAGAN holiday (Yule Tides) December 25th is NOT Jesus' birthday! And those decorated trees have nothing to do with Jesus. The church at one time even tried to adopt the PENTAGRAM symbol which is also PAGAN. I speak FACTS 💯 The bible writers STOLE concepts from pagans. But All you have are CLAIMS. There's a difference between facts and claims. Facts are proven, demonstrable and don't require faith. However, your claims DO require faith.
The Evidence that JESUS CHRIST was raised to life is in the books of the holy bible and saint books by there actions in what they did because JESUS CHRIST promises all of them to us today that if we die faithful to him we will live forever in the new heaven new earth one day therefore many people in history died for what the beleived in none will dear to die for a lie therefore the Apostels and decipeles all died serving JESUS CHRIST because they beleived to die for others and for the gospel that there life will be given back to then this time to live forever all or most where martyred for there faith in JESUS CHRIST because they preached the gospel when most could have excaped the death sentence simply by confessing that there doctrine is a lie when each and every one of them only confeses that the doctrine of CHRISTIANITY is pin point acurate thus:: if it was not all they had to do is confess it and live rather then been martyred this is eveidence in the holy bible itself and books of the saints known as history books recoreded i do not beleive how some people do not beleive in history well did history exsist corse it did
Did you drop too much acid in the 70s?
@Mr. Lion ok go read a bible. The devil was the reptile deciving them. By the way have you noticed that were the only animals that are ashamed of us being naked. God is real the devil is in you and you need jesus.
@Mr. Lion you cant even spell. Lol. Ok then why do we see a boy dog but its happy as ever and doesn't give a crap. We are very smart but until they ate the fruit they knew what they were naked and felt ashamed because of the devil. The reason why murder hate rape and many other bad things that happened. I dont need to prove the devils real just turn on the TV and the news.
WLC isn’t a real scientist. He’s just at another apologetic
I've literally (and I mean literally) never heard anybody, including WLC, claim that he's a scientist. He describes himself as a philosopher and Christian apologist.
@@dom252 Well then he can't spout off about having evidence for Jesus, then, can he? He doesn't grasp what evidence is, every argument falls back on presupposition or faith in old texts that aren't even contemporary.
@@zachtastic625 actually he can spout evidence, if you check out his actual website he quotes many historians and New Testament scholars who back him up on the authenticity of Jesus.
@@sativagx4105 None of that is relevant. There is NO evidence supporting the resurrection, regardless of people's OPINIONS ON IT. There are also scholars that do NOT believe Jesus rose from the dead, so to claim that scholars believing he did means he actually did is baseless.
When mankind sinned against God in the beginning we were damned. Jesus/Yashua being sacrificed in the flesh washed away with his pure blood those sins for those with faith in him. The wickedness will continue to spread as the populace becomes more immoral & once again man will try to set up a one world system of control and will play God. God will unleash his wrath on the world for believing & worshiping the man of perdition. Jesus will gather his flock before the destruction of this world.
Sin is an invented concept...thats why it has to be taught to people so they believe it. Once you get them to believe it, you can sell them religion.
So, god practices human sacrifice? And this is the guy you're getting your morals from? We're all damned.
Celia And Favour what about military operations? Human sacrifice is still being practiced by all nations under a flag.
I think the Jesus story may have perpetuated this insanity, whether it was taken out of context or not, the damage has been done.
Jesus had great understandings. Maybe too great for us to fully comprehend or put into practice?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Blah blah blah
It's called mass delusion
Indoctrination
Evidence that Jesus Christ Rose from the dead:
*crickets*
@@solideogloriaapologetics8901
" I believe in God because I think that there is good evidence for one."
Do you THINK there is good evidence for a god or do you KNOW there is? Big difference there. Anybody can think or believe anything, assuming something is evidence in hindsight of a presupposition is not actually evidence.
"Many arguments such as the moral argument have convinced me of God."
How? Morality is a presupposition and always has been. Apologetic arguments are only there to convince believers what they already believe, they aren't logically valid and rely on assumptions, especially the moral argument.
"And, apologists have been able to debunk objections and attempted and alleged refutations of the moral argument. "
Not in any meritorious way. The moral argument is based on assumption. It's a giant WHAT IF, not an argument that proves anything.
"I believe in the God of Christianity because of the evidence we have for the ressurection."
Again, repeating a presupposition is not an argument. You can believe what you want, but there isn't any evidence, just man made stories written 20+ years after the events they allegedly describe, with no contemporary accounts or sources whatsoever. Nothing wrong with believing, but claiming evidence for somebody rising from the dead (a completely unfalsifiable unverifiable extraordinary claim) is ridiculous.
"I would be more than willing to share with you some of the reasons why I believe Jesus rose from the dead."
I know why you believe. It's what you've been taught and raised into as a kid. Apologetic arguments don't convince non believers because they don't hold merit. They only reinforce what somebody already believes via deception and word games.
Where is the archaeological evidence?
Where are the contemporary sources?
Those are the 2 biggest standards of historical inquiry. I don't care why you believe. I care if you claim there is evidence because usually that is based on deception and myth. I'm a skeptic because none of the so called Jesus evidence is meritorious. There is equally as much evidence supporting the Egyptian Book of the Dead or the Quran.
@@solideogloriaapologetics8901 I know what the moral argument is, it's a complete presupposition justified by circular reasoning.
1. Objective morals and duties can't exist without god
2. Morals and duties exist
3. Therefor God
It's pure nonsense. First, belief in morals and duties can exist without god, look at Buddhists and secular humanists. Second nobody can objective prove morals and duties exist, merely that SOME people believe they do. People all across the world disagree on morality, it's subjective. Objective means it can be demonstrated, and it can't. It relies 100% on faith. The moral argument is self defeating trickery like all apologetic lies.
"Second of all, the resurrections is the best explanation for why a group of Jews began to worship a man named Jesus. "
Prove it. Just stating that isn't an argument, it's an opinion. LOL@ claiming the best explanation for a religion is the supernatural one when there are thousands of other religions. Do you take the same position on Mohammed writing the Quran dictated to him by Allah? I mean it's the best explanation for why a group of Pagans in the middle east started worshiping Allah, right? LOL.
"Back then, the Jews believed that there would be a resurrection at the end of time."
No they didn't.
"The disciples couldn’t have knowingly been lying about Jesus rising from the dead if they knew it wasn’t true. "
False. The stories of Jesus came 20+ years after the events by non eye witnesses and 3rd party accounts. There isn't a single contemporary source for the resurrection. You just want it to be true. Again, there is just as much evidence for Quran. Stories are stories, not automatic fact.
"Second of all, it couldn’t have been that the women got the wrong tomb because the Pharisees and other people trying to stomp out the Christians would have simply produced the tomb Jesus was actually buried on, thus ruling out the possibility that the disciples had the wrong tomb. "
All based on folklore, not actuality.
"So, the resurrection of Jesus Christ is held up by historical facts."
You literally sourced ZERO historical facts LMFAO! LOL @ proper context. For you that means blind belief in old man made stories.
@@solideogloriaapologetics8901 "We are saying that God is required for there to be moral absolutes."
I'm well aware of that, but you can't prove that, nor can you demonstrate there are objective moral absolutes and that's a fatal flaw of the argument.
"Subjective morality is the idea that morality depends on people’s opinions. "
False. You are talking about moral relativism. Subjective morality is a statement of fact considering that you can't objectively demonstrate any of it. Objective morality is a myth, whether you WANT it to be true or not.
"That kind of reasoning has lead to things like Stalin,Hitler, the Holocaust, and the bloodbath under Communist rule in places like China and Soviet Russia. "
That's not true in the slightest.
"Richard Wurmbrand a Christian, was tortured in communist prisons for preaching the gospel"
And Christians have never tortured non believers, RIGHT? Complete red herring to the conversation. Stop projecting and prove that morality is objective.
matthedges1464 can you give me any non Christian evidence of the resurrection, the earth going dark, and the earthquakes?
@@MicMan03 Get ready for him to reference a guy that wasn't even alive at the time.
The only people that supposedly saw jesus were his disciples. Why didn't jesus come back to life and reveal himself to all those that saw him die? There would be no doubt to the idiots who lived in that era that he was the messiah. And Christians wouldn't need the magic word "faith". And no that does not mean free will goes out the window because people would still have the option to follow him abd obey what jesus daddy wants.
I see nothing but suffering ahead for me in my life and as a result I would like to end my life, before I do that I would like to know beyond a shadow of a doubt if Jesus was truly the savior of mankind, I guess I'm asking for prayer, this is the information I need to know before my final Act
do not end it. Jesus is really and hes your savior. you can message me and i could talk to you if you woulld like.
Please don't do it. I hope you will put faith in Jesus. He will always be merciful, but wants you to live.
Don't end it, please, it isn't worth it. You can get through the hard times.
Hey dude still alive??
I just want to say I hope you're still alive and the Jesus is indeed a savior. He can help you in life and deliver you out of your troubles.
I don't believe that their is any physical evidence that one can truly say that Jesus rose from the dead.....it is only through FAITH that one can say that they believe Jesus rose from the dead
The resurrection was a literal physical resurrection, which is why bones can't be found. Well... that and because it was 2,000 years ago.
Dd S well, let me start with the spread of Christianity. Christianity is built upon The resurrection of Jesus. If he didn’t resurrect, Christianity would’ve stopped then and there. But it didn’t. Matter of fact it exploded in popularity after the time of Jesus. And with the fact that archaeologists can’t find his body is just more proof that the resurrection is true.
Dd S so yeah, these “ghost tales” are credible.
Dd S it’s simple mind foaming at the mouth anti theists like you that make it unenjoyable to debate. If it wasn’t true, you’d have to explain why the disciples were martyred for their actions, and you would have no other choice but to think that 500 schizophrenics all saw the resurrection at once at the exact same time of day, in the exact same location on the exact same date in the exact same year. Time to read the rest of your anti theist gibberish. Let’s see if you have anything actually worth reading. This “cult” is still thriving. If you want a real merciless religion, look at Islam
Dd S you don’t voluntarily die for something you know is not true. The disciples were told to either say that the resurrection was false, or to die brutal deaths, including being dragged around the city until their limbs were ripped off, being cut in half, or being crucified themselves. Why would they endure this pain if it weren’t true? What would they have to gain? Islam is a corrupt religion where people are brainwashed into thinking that killing non believers is justifiable (e.g ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, etc.)
Jesus loves you ❤️
Jesus does not love liars like WLC.
Jesus the son of God. Thank you Dr William Lane Crage for sharing the great teching. God bless you❤
So you are thanking him for lying and misrepresenting reality, merely because it confirms the religion you were brainwashed into as a kid. LOL!
Samtastic Am I brain washed and you are not LAMO😆
@@jamalkhan3708 I was brainwashed by religion as well when I was a kid. I broke out of it, though.
@@zachtastic625 God is not a religion , he is there , he is alive. What u ran into was just false people ,, my family is catholic and i was an atheist , and now 2 years ago i met God .
@@lele-jt5xc You "Met" god. Please describe that experience.
this has actually been proven false... that Zietgiest movie or w/e was dumb
I don't understand anything.
lmao
After the crucifixion, Followers of Jesus were first scared and hiding. Then they were out in public saying Jesus was alive again. What happened to make that change?
All that talk still no evidence
Craig doesn't know the meaning of "evidence" or purposely misrepresents it.
Check out the shroud of Turin. The science is fascinating...image 3 microns deep, photo negative, and 3D on vp8 analyzer. It covered the body of Christ at the time of his resurrection he became light captured the negative image on his cloth first believers had the same cloth we have today which gave them evidence that he rose. It was the first reason why they believed he had risen...the linen cloth...64 pollens fro, Jerusalem, we have evidence it existed in 1100s, 200 years before carbon dating via the Hungarian prayer codex
@@matthewvecchio8965 Complete nonsense. Shroud of Turin was dated to the middle ages, not the first century, it's an intentional hoax. Believing that crap is dumber than believing Jesus burns his image onto toast.
Samtastic that’s the problem with Not doing your research. I have studied the cloth my whole life and scientists around the world have dedicated their life to the study. I ask you to give this your academic ear for a second. Carbon dating isn’t correct because we have historical evidence it existed 200 years before the carbon dating. We have evidence via the Hungarian prayer codex it at LEAST dates the cloth 1132...(cabin dating said 1350’s). also, the image is a photo NEGATIVE...it couldn’t have been made by human hand because people in the Middle Ages didnt know of the concept of photography to even know of the concept of negative imagery until the 1800s. It wasn’t until 1898 did we take the first photo of the cloth to identify its negative characteristics. It is forensically perfect to a crucifixion and only has 4 fingers because the thumb curls in on crucified victims. It has over 64 pollens from Jerusalem. Also, if it were made by human hand how did they make it? The image is 3 microns deep, and is a 3D image on the vp8 analyzer...only artifact In the world to do so. Indeed there is no logical explanation for answering those questions. If you can tell me how an artist made each particle brighter and darker on the image to display a 3d image on the VP8 analyzer, so that the image becomes three dimensional, please let me know. We still can’t create the image nor explain it today. If the event was truly a radioactive event, which means Jesus became radioactive Light at the time of his resurrection and imprinted his negative image on the cloth that wrapped him, more carbon monoxide would’ve been exhibited on the cloth to interfere with carbon dating, nor to mention the handling by human hand over 2000 years plus surviving a fire in the 1300. If you are so convinced the image was a hoax, explain to me how they made a negative 3D image. Then tell me what other image made by human hand resembles these characteristics? The first apostles saw this cloth in the Tomb and believed he had risen. No surprise that the greatest event in human history had physical evidence and witness of it occurring. If you want to discuss further, please answer the above questions and we can have a logical and scientific discussion. If you’re going to be willful ignorant to the point of not even listening to my points above then you’ve already made up your mind and turned your back to science.
@@matthewvecchio8965 Also if you have studied the cloth your whole life, please post your peer reviewed research that you had published about it. Thanks.
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Whoever reads this, know that this testimony is true: I have suffered greatly through my life. With abuse when I was younger by multiple sources. I was beat plenty of times to the point where I'd fear my parent in question, bloody noses, hit with various inanimate objects, tears and trauma for most of if not all of my youth. Although they are forgiven, this is just what happened. For years I was broken but I knew at a young age, about 3 that there was something very wrong with this world. I saw the matrix right infront of me, just didn't know it yet. School & society didn't interest me. My birthday wishes when I was younger were for world peace, hope for all who suffer. My heart was always with the lord. I was raised as a Christian & went to Church. I lived in a bad area, in a very dangerous city & have seen a lot of evil. I dealt with many trials & tribulations like hunger & starvation. Do to all that has happened, it strengthened me, even if I didn't know it & was falling apart. I had protected myself from darkness with a cold personality, but my true nature was shown to my friends & those I loved. I wasn't evil towards people just didn't show any emotion. I'm just trying to live happy & make others happy & hopeful, spreading love, light, and positivity. Trying to help them with their mental struggles, & the demons that tried to drag them down to the Pitts of hell.
When I was very young I remember
VERY vividly in a dream still to this day, sitting in the lap of Jesus in heaven. That night I wept for my grandmother, I was in an abusive home wanting an escape. I see what he's done for me. In my teen years, I was lost, out of control, into witchcraft, not dark magic but just interested in the hidden/magical/ general occult, but he was still present.
I was losing my mind, embracing insanity, going through 8 years of depression, tortured by anxiety, negative thoughts of things that don't matter. I was dealing with Psychosis, panic attacks, all sorts of mental issues. Multiple personalities (Demon). This all started before I became comforted by darkness, all I wanted to find was the truth, though I was met with false truths. I was extremely manic, even wanted to kill someone. I was sad & hated myself for so long, it seemed like I gave so much yet was being tormented. Saw many demons in my home. I didn't want to be like this. I was bullied in school at times, started to hate humanity. I was in constant emotional agony. I felt like cutting my arm & bleeding was more pleasurable then the emotions I was always feeling. I felt death was my friend, cause it would lead me back home. I hoped for death at times. I became very dark, numb, & cold. Started smoking bud, drinking, pre marital sex, just sinning. That demon of the past was trying to annihilate me. Even though I loved god & saw many great signs of his existence, unbelief was there. I wanted to know more so I wanted to try to lucid dream, astral project, meditate, sun gaze, mirror gaze, all sorts of spirituality practices, and I fell away from him.
Nothing evil, anyway...except for the tarot cards & occult. Since then I repented from those things, rebuked, & renounced them. I thought I was doing good for others casting things to help them..it usually only took from me. After awhile, feeling good from meditation, working out, eating healthy. I stopped. I fell into the deepest despair of insanity & questioned my everything I ever thought about. EVERYTHING! I was dead, I was begging, asking for help, pleading actually..to anyone that would listen. And my friend brought me back to the church & on a certain night I begged God for a sign of his existence so I may stop doubting him.
And that night I had a dream & at the end of the dream of some random kid on a bike being chased by a madman in a car. I was in a mountain & inside was crystal clear waters, in those waters I was with two others that I don't remember the faces of, but a white horse that gave me an immense feeling of bliss & peace came to me from across the waters from the other side. It seemingly smiled and the dream ended. When I woke up I was puzzled & asked my pastors & they believe as I did, that it was Jesus. Before this I kept seeing videos of hell pop up in my feed, so I watched them. I was trembling like I never had before. I was not walking with God as I should have, & I was convicted. I was compelled after thinking of all the possibility that there is no doubt that god exists, he is the lord Jesus Christ. I believe in his name as I always have & I am happy that he brought me back to him. It's funny my place of torture was called Bethel Road. I kid you not my youth was hell epitomized.
He wanted me to fight with him. He made me strong & cold to this world for a reason, the cold heart turned into a burning anger towards evil, a rightious heart. My wrath and his shall be poured onto those evil entities when fighting with the lord in Armageddon. The world corrupted one of his angels, I was so pure when I was younger, & wanted to do nothing but help others & nurture. My innocence was stripped from me as I realized the harsh realities of this painful world. I have seen angels & great wonders by the lord. Crosses & angels in the sky, visions. I was having excruciating migraines that do didn't go away, asked for him to make them vanish & they did. This was when I was a kid & was younger & unprogrammed. All I saw was lies. I now have the wisdom by God to see that he brought me back in haste, so I may not be appointed to his wrath. Which is good cause I want to be with him. I detest this evil world, I have always looked to the sky longing for home. HEAR ME FOR MY MIDDLE NAME IS GABRIEL, THIS IS MY TESTIMONY OF MY EXPERIENCE IN LIFE AND WITH THE LORD!
Through him my pains washed away, even though meditating helped slightly. It would do nothing in these days knowing judgement is here, I am glad I put my faith 200% back in Jesus Christ. If I was meditating and continuing with the new age practices I would be absolutely terrified, depressed, & souly hopless knowing the end is here. But I am happier each day, through all my agony I have found paradise is Christ. Having a relationship with the one who created you.
For those who read this & do not believe. DO YOU NOT SEE THE PROPHECY BEING FULFILLED BEFORE YOUR VERY EYES! ISRAEL & ARAB PEACE DEAL WAS APART OF PROPHECY! Israel just split, god is real. (Israel=Is real) IT'S UNFOLDING BEFORE US, THE CHURCH SHOULD BE TALKING MORE ABOUT REVELATIONS NOT AVOIDING IT! You don't want to be here for the coming judgement, so accept Jesus now for I feel it in my spirit & very soul he is coming for his believers soon. Like almost now soon, I have this INNER KNOWING that he is indeed coming, even when I was not walking with him. At first I was scared to hear of revelation, then I remembered the rapture & Jesus's blessed promise. Don't let anybody strip you of his promise, his blessed hope.
If you are his, walk with him, have a relationship with him, love him, be obedient to his grace, fear not. See unlike the devils gifts..it won't cost you. Jesus's salvation is free. If you reject him, your heart will shatter as his did when you rejected him. You don't want to hear "I never knew you, depart from me!" But Jesus has a big heart, full of love & joy. He heals the broken hearted & those who weren't shown love. His mercy is an ever flowing ocean. Continue to pray everyday, speak to him, read his word, you will be comforted everyday. Teach revelations with the hope of the rapture. People will run away from Christ if it's doom and gloom, PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE IS THE TRUTH! We are the bride of Christ, the church. JESUS WOULDN'T LET SOMEONE BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF HIS BRIDE BEFORE THE WEDDING, which is what the tribulation is.
Believe NOW and subscribe to God before its too late! REPENT FOR THE TIME OF HIS GATHERING OF THE CHURCH IS NEAR! BE RIGHTEOUS IN CHRIST! Most importantly accept you are seperated from God because of your sin. No amount of good works or anything will save you. Only Yeshua's Salvation. Accept this free gift & believe that Jesus died on the cross, took your punishment on calvary, that he rose on the third day, & ascended into heavan. Choose to walk with the lord, call upon him, ask for his holy spirit. It is by the glory of God I didn't take my life. I thank the lord for everything, gratitude=blessings. In Jesus name, bless anyone who reads this, help them see your presence lord, father god let them feel the holy spirit, & be called to come to you. Let them pick up their cross, follow & worship your mighty name. In the holy name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth! I've been through it all, yet the way I was lead to was god, recently. The lord chose you, chose to suffer for YOUR sins, so we may not perish but have eternal life. Repent and turn away from your sins, change your mind, walk with God, speak to god, have a relationship with Christ & his word will guide you. Pray that you may be counted worthy to escape the coming devastation. Our holy father will save us, you must believe this. Let no one try to take away his promise, we have been faithful. We already are under demonic spiritual warefare. We are not appointed to his wrath, but rapture. Love God, he loves you to give his only begotten son to pay the wages of sin which is death. If you accept Jesus's free gift of salvation you are redeemed. How to accept? Say this: "I believe in the father, son, & the holy spirit. Sin seperated me from you, I believe deep in my heart that Jesus is the son of God, that he died on the cross for our sins, rose on the third day, & ascended into heavan. I turn away from sin & will take up my cross and follow you lord, obey your will for me. Jesus I trust in you!" Jesus is awaiting you with open arms, call upon his name! Heavan & Hell are very real places, choose your eternity now🙏
This is pretty much proof that abuse leads to mental issues.
Excellent! Dr. Craig, as usual, gives an indefensible, point-by-point argument in favor of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Watch it and go witness to your friends, telling them of the FACT that Jesus is alive! Because he is.
And here's me thinking Jesus was in heaven with his dad/himself. Or did he lie to the thief on the other cross.
+Michael Sleight Your thinking has led you astray. Much understanding can be gained by actually reading the Book that deals with the subject.
Well where is he then? If he's god he's in heaven. I take it he is God!
+Michael Sleight He's in heaven. Alive.
Have you ever read the New Testament?
So your saying there are two gods. Jesus who is a man God (a bit like the Romans Nd Hreeks had) and the God God who is God. The God who said he was the one jealous God. The who said thou shalt have no other gods but me. Have I read the bible. Yes and I have read how the bible was written too. Have you? Or do you just believe all the crap WCL tells you?
Too True. It is funny. Just like Atheism is funny with no evidence to support it. Heres an idea go listen to a comedy post and stay away. We dont care about what you find humorous we just want to listen to a Scholar Respected by 10's of thousands of people and not have childish posts to bog down sincere people who care about what happens to other people. Please dont go away mad just go away
If christianity was actually a "sun cult" and the "son"=the "sun" then his resurrection can easily be explained in earlier myths neither "pagan" nor Jewish, such as zoroastrianism and other ancient cults of sun worship. We literally celebrate the birth of the "son" at the suns lowest trajectory through the sky. The fact that this guy completely ignores sun cults is kind of aggravating for someone who is open minded and actually looking for answers.
WLC is the furthest thing from open minded and actually looking for answers. He cherry picks the answers he wants.
The main reason that xianity caught on is because Constantine converted. He was a horrible person, had is wife and son murdered, had hundreds, if not thousands of others murdered. What other religion lets you live the worst possible life, make a death-bed conversion and you still get into heaven--that was the appeal for Constantine.
William Lane Craig believe human beings are incapable of coming up with a story and can only PERFECTLY borrow previous stories illustrated in the way he dismissed the Jewish influence on the resurrection...
“Would you die for a made up story”? If the answer is no, then it makes you wonder why Jesus’ disciples were willing to die for something made up. Especially Paul aka Saul who KILLED CHRISTIANS. That just doesn’t make sense.
Sativa Gx by that logic the terrorists of the world hold true beliefs... x
@@TheKillaMali horrible analogy. Saul is basically a modern day extreme jihaddist who wanted to kill Christians but claimed to have seen and been used by Jesus (who is from a religion that he opposes).
I frankly find it astounding at the degree to which Dr. Craig, the "scholar" has allowed his scholarship to become so awfully tainted by dogma and doctrines. All of his presentations that I have listened to clearly show this built in bias. Let's look at one aspect of this video. Craig says that the origin of the Disciples belief in Jesus' resurrection had no prior indicators. That's not true. According to the Bible, there were numerous cases, some known to the disciples, when the dead were raised including Lazarus. Additionally, Jesus told them in Mark 10:34 in plain terms, not parables, what was to happen to him including his resurrection. Now, they may have had doubts when he initially told them; but, after they "saw" him after he was supposedly killed and buried, they would have, as a matter course, recalled what he had told them about this event and belief would have slowly come to them. This would have been especially the case as Peter, the designated "holder of the keys" and the power associated therewith, was the force behind the belief. The idea of life after death, resurrection, did nor start with Jesus and the disciples. The Egyptians were the first, that we know of, to place great emphasis on the heart. In the Egyptian Book of the Dead, the "heart" is "weighed". In Jeremiah 17:10, we have God "searching" the heart. The Egyptians were the first, that we know of, to state a rational case for a soul with actions. They believed that the soul "KA" needed a body and vice versa. Accordingly, they mummified the body with the belief that it would rise again. Additionally, they placed in the tomb along with the body all the provisions deemed necessary for when the body rose again. In Daniel we find that the King was "weighed". Indeed, the idea that morality has weight came directly and firstly, that we know of, via the Egyptians. Today, the Bible is saturated with references to the heart and its contents. Furthermore, the Jews were heavily influenced by the dominant powers that conquered or ruled over them, including the Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks and Romans. The truth is, everything evolves. Each idea is a seed derived from a predecessor. For example, the idea of one God originated, as far as we know, with the Pharaoh of Egypt, Akhenaten. It was the seed having its own predecessor, from which todays idea of monotheism evolved. The sun is a seed in the chain of seeds by which we now have the brilliant ball in Times Square on New Years Eve. Jesus' resurrection evolved from assorted ideas, claims and practices, which were predecessors. If the truth matters, then let it be told.
Im here for evidence and I got BS still its great!
You aren't going to find evidence in religious propaganda pieces.
No proof whatsoever. No primary source of evidence. Just the gospel account which was written decades later. William Craig is a charming speaker and quite neatly fudges the question.
Adelyn Bennett wow. In that case you can provide references. Not just a line in a book saying 500 people witnessed it. Thats not evidence. Evidence is 500 ppl with individual written testimonies.
The proof to God’s existence is the Quran. And the truth to what happened to Jesus and Moses and all the prophets is in the Quran. Cuz the author of the book is God. He knows how prove his existence and speaks the truth to his creation.
I missed the part where Craig gave actual evidence. Why is this guy so dishonest all the time?
Are you one of Jehovah Witnesses 1 Corinthians 15:50 < Do you see the parallels that this verse draws between the kingdom of God with incorruption and flesh and blood with corruption? It is obvious that the flesh and blood bodies that we have are subject to decay and death they are corruptible and corruptible bodies cannot inherit heaven so what must happen to these corruptible bodies in order that they may inherit heaven verse 51-53 once our bodies become incorruptible then they will be able to inherit the Kingdom of God which is incorruptible when we read verse 50-53 we see the real meaning of verse 50 we know that our transformed body's will be glorified flesh and bones with no blood read Luke 24:39 when His Spirit re-entered back into his body His Resurrection was a transformation His flesh became glorified His blood disappeared yes brothers Gal 1:1 God the Father resurrected His sons body but how can this be when 1 Peter 3:18 says that he was made alive "in the spirit" notice it doesn’t say "made alive as a spirit" It reads made alive "in the spirit" “In the Spirit” is a shorter way of saying in or by the power of the Spirit so Jesus body was made alive by His human Spirit Romans 8:11(the Spirit is Jesus the Him is Jehovah in Romans 8:11) God the Father played a role in the resurrection because he gave the commandment Jesus human Spirit played a role in his resurrection because he obeyed the commandment we know this because what did Jesus human Spirit say within His body John 10:17,18 John 2:19-21 let's read John 20:27 He decided to keep His wounds as proof that His body had risen and oneday his wounds will go away when we are all one let's read John 20:14 the reason why Mary didn't recognize him is because verse 1 tells us that it was early and still dark (verse 11-15) we see that she begins to weep so her tears grief and the darkness got in the way of her recognizing Jesus no wonder she mistook Jesus as the gardener plus she believes that Jesus is dead she wasn’t expecting Jesus to be alive it was her grief that didn’t allow her to recognize his voice at first verse 16 she recognizes Him and for Luke 24:30,31 verse 16 tells us why they didn’t recognize Him [1 Corinthians 15:13-17] does 1 Timothy 2:5 contradict 2 Corinthians 5:16 You believe that this verse proves that we should no longer view Jesus in a body of flesh your view is wrong the verse is about not setting the mind on the flesh but why Romans 8:6-8 Jesus the man is soon coming to transform Philippians 3:21to transform our bodies to be like his glorious body and to remove His people from the earth 1 Thess 4:13-18 and oneday He will bring His people back to a new earth your 144000 Doctrine is straight up ass you misuse scripture to support your false doctrine like 1 Corinthians 15:44 which ill explain later also the NWT had to change verse 23 in Romans 8 to support the false doctrine about being spirits in heaven Compare the NWT of Romans 8:23 with the KJV Romans 8:23 another way it could be translated in the KJV is "release of our body" there is a big difference in the release of our body and the release from our body the release of our body is the release from the pain of decay and death and that release is the addition of immortality and the kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures on your website proves that the KJV translation of Romans 8:23 is accurate there is not one verse that says that flesh cannot inherit heaven now explaining 1 Corinthians 15:44 the KJV uses the word "natural" your bible uses the word "physical" probably to throw you off to make you think that Paul is talking about two different bodies a physical body and a spirit body but that view is wrong Paul is talking about one body that will one day change we know this because the word "it" is referring to the same body read verses 42-44 in 1 Corinthians 15 the resurrected physical body is called spiritual because it will be filled and directed by Gods Spirit lets read Romans 8:11 you need Gods Spirit
Everyone seems to forget that Jesus isn't the only person in the bible to rise from the dead. there are 6 others - Lazarus, two raised by Elisha, and one from Elijah, Peter and Paul - and there's not a single shred of outside evidence for these either! With all these people rising from the dead, no one finds it odd that no one cared to write about them?
I meant in a first-hand account, a letter, a historical report, a government statement, or heck even by the risen themselves. Not a religious book with an agenda written in third-person.
that doesn't change my statement
what do u mean by "biased"? That statement doesn't make sense. I just want contemporary testimony. so far every response from you Nicholas has completely dodged the question.
In fact, I forgot an instance in my original post - what about Matt 27: 52-53. He we have dozens if not hundreds of dead people coming out of their graves and NOT A SINGLE PERSON documented it? c'mon
are you even reading the original statement? None of those people saw anyone rising from the dead. The only exception in your list, in biblical terms, was Peter....but I seriously doubt anything claimed to be "written" by a uneducated fisherman. And you accused me of bias...these were all "Christians" with agendas..
Now back to my ORIGINAL query....there is NO outside evidence of Jesus or anyone else rising from the grave. You seem so focused on Jesus, you're ignoring the gist of the question. You keep going off in some other direction unrelated to what I'm talking about. Now, why if people are rising from the dead did not a single, Roman, Greek, Persian, Egyptian, Babylonian, unconverted Jew or anyone else witness, write about, or even mention and/or dismiss these occurrences?
if you reply again, please stick to the subject. This is not a Christianity question
Nicholas Porter in that day and age? yes absolutely. That you would say such a thing proves you don't have a grasp of the historical setting of when the old testament was written or historical literature of the day. but your second statement is exactly right. allegory.
The only 'evidence' for the resurrection comes from the Gospels which were written well after the events by non-eye-witnesses who were trying to convert people to Christianity rather than record history (by their own admission). We have no contemporary evidence for Jesus existence let alone his resurrection.
flavius josephus Jewish historian wrote about Jesus as a historical figure. Tacitus a Roman senator and historian also wrote about Jesus. Let's for the sake of argument say that he was a historical figure. If he didn't resurrect then when the "christians" were converting the Jews, wouldn't be easy to just roll the stone back and say "here is your savior bones" that would stop the uprising pretty quickly no?
@@vahegiragol9953 Jospehus did not mention Jesus at all. The testimonium flavianum is a 4th century interpolation added by Eusebius. This has been known for more than 100 years! Christians writers in the 2nd and 3rd centuries actually mentioned how unfortunate it is that Josephus does not mention Jesus! Tacitus was writing long after the events and was only repeating what Christians in Rome were saying. Remember Tacitus was written after both Mark and Matthew. If we assume he was a historical figure why assume he was crucified? or that he received a burial in a tomb. The Romans did not allow the respectful burial of those crucified. Nothing in the story is backed up by evidence or even logic.
@@Matthew_Holton I think you are applying your wisdom of today on how things we're back then. As Trump calls it "fake news." The passing of information was sacred back then. They didn't have websites. Their whole credibility was on the info being correct. Josephus did write about Jesus when he wrote accounts of James. You are right about Romans not allowing proper burial but the Romans didn't have issues with Jesus, it was all done so the Jews would make get out of hand. You have to take all the accounts place them together and see if it falls apart or not.
@@vahegiragol9953 ' I think you are applying your wisdom of today on how things we're back then' . No I have studied the Bible, ancient history, languages and archaeology so I am using the information from the time in question.
'Their whole credibility was on the info being correct' No it wasn't! You don't know this subject. Ancient biographers regularly embellished their accounts of famous people's lives. This was considered normal and not even criticised by others. Accounts from Egypt, Rome, Sumeria, Phoenicia, Greece all did this and admitted doing it.
'the Romans didn't have issues with Jesus' then why was he (allegedly) crucified? The Judean authorities still executed people themselves at this time ( by stoning) they did not need Roman permission.
'it was all done so the Jews would make get out of hand' - that does not make grammatical sense
'You have to take all the accounts place them together and see if it falls apart or not.'. I did and it all fell apart.
The original version of Mark (the first gospel) ended with the finding of the empty tomb, the resurrection was added later. The structure of Mark is in a fictional story format (constructed around symmetric themes), not biographical. Mark also draws on Ot scripture for material to construct his narrative and gets things wrongs, such as using the passage about people casting lots forJesus garments, this was taken from the psalms. He thought it was prophecy but is actually Davids account of an attack upon himself. Matthew is juts a copy of Mark with the errors about Judaism taken out (Mark was not a jew and did not know when the sabbath was for example) and he inserted his own material, usually of a very imaginative nature. (Matthew is the one with the zombie invasion of Jerusalem). Luke, like Matthew, is based on Mark. John is much later and also is based on Mark though with a much more aggressively messianic Jesus. John is also the most edited Gospel, with so many changes over time it no longer has a coherent narrative.
I suggest you make a proper study of the subject, you will be amazed by what you find (provided you keep an open mind).
@@Matthew_Holton first off, sorry about the errors, my phone sometimes inserts words where they don't belong. Secondly, the creditability of historians were crucial at the time. I would love for you to show point me to some sources because I don't know I'm right, I believe I am. The only thing I don't understand is you say there is no evidence that he existed but then you argue about him not having a tomb. You are kind of all over the place. For example, John Mark was Jewish. He was the cousin of Barnabas who was Jewish. The accounts you are saying are all taken from Mark, but if we both wrote about 9/11 we would sound like we are taking from each other depending on who wrote first. I have a totally open mind about this, and would love to for you to point me to some reading.
Pray :D
Atheism is a rejection of a claim. Nothing more.
Just another guy making big bucks from christian mythology.
Funny how that's always the case. They preach and preach and preach, but then ask for money and use it for private jets instead of helping the poor.
@@classicgamingboss Yep.. So very christian of them ;-)
"God rose Jesus from the dead" so they're 2 different entities ? Disciples? Nobody has met them. Nobody alive today was there. All we have is written scripture. How does that prove its true?
Biblical historical accuracy, dumbass
@@drewmiller2613 Prove it, dumbass. There are no contemporary accounts of Jesus and that is a primary method used by historians to determine accuracy. LMAO!
@Scott Ricks Christians are the only ones that believe jesus rose from the dead. Jahovah , Jews , Muslims , do not believe this. The new testament isn't accepted by many other denominations. It seems outside of intellectual capacity to think it was simply made up. He seems to think people can only know what they've seen and don't have the imagination to make up someone rising from the dead. "If it's written in the bible , it must be true". Is the Christian way of thinking.
@@drewmiller2613 Dumbass? How very Christian of you. 2000 yrs of broken telephone is historical accuracy? Lol
Do you read and understand Hebrew ? Nothing was lost in translation? Apocrypha or no apocrypha? Do you accept the new testament? How about the book of Enoch? The dead sea scrolls werent found until the 1940's. Are they even real? If so you didnt have the true word of God until the 1940s!? Are you the far most authority? If so, id like to debate. Theres countless immoral and repulsive scripture condoning genocide, slavery, rape, incest and sexism. There are 100s of errors and contradictions. And when you say historical accuracy you're referring to what? Even if the bible was unchanged from Hebrew 2000 yrs ago to today , How does that prove its true? Noahs Ark is an absolutely ridiculous fairytale. Its not possible. Not to mention it was plagiarized from Egyptian mythology. Amen? Amen Ra ? The Egyptian sun God?
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Ha, a fool is known by the folly of his mouth. Free-will, dude. It all hinges on free-will. Because of free-will people can choose evil. An all good and all loving God must not be an arbitrary tyrant, He must create beings with free-will or He is a monster. Creating people and beings who HAVE to love and adore Him is NOT LOVE -- it is subjection, forcing. He created all with free will so those who choose to love are genuine. In the end evil will be destroyed and only those who chose will live.
"He must create beings with free will or he is a monster." ..........OR he doesnt create beings at all and doesnt risk over half of them having to burn in hell for all of eternity..........
What is the basis of such a thesis: God gave us free will?
قال الله تعالى :( إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَىٰ إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَجَاعِلُ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوكَ فَوْقَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا إِلَىٰ يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ ۖ ثُمَّ إِلَيَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ فِيمَا كُنْتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ ) سورة ال عمران الاية 55
Allah said, O Jesus, I am terminating your life, and raising you to Me, and clearing you of those who disbelieve. And I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return; then I will judge between you regarding what you were disputing) Surat Al-Imran .. Verse 55
more believable character in the thunderbirds
colin noble what is that
Jesus was indeed dead, we have no record of anyone ever surviving a roman crucifixion.
There was a creed of eye-witness accounts of Jesus’ Resurrection that date back to months after His death.
The empty tomb: even the opponents of Jesus(Romans/Pharisees admit the tomb was empty.
For most ancient writings there are at most 2 sources, Yet we have 9 separate sources inside & outside the New Testament confirming eye-witness account of Jesus’ Resurrection.
The accusation by opponents at the time was that the disciples would steal Christs body out from the tomb to feed the lie of resurrection. And for this the Romans set up a guard(10-30 Roman soldiers) to guard the tomb day & night, as well as a large stone on the door of the tomb, as well as a roman seal over said stone to secure it. To break this seal was punishable by death, this accusation is towards the disciples who just days before forsook Jesus and ran in fear after He was taken captive by the Sanhedrin. Why then would this very group then change their ways, hearts, minds to be obedient to Christ in midst of persecution & death in future if not for the revelation of Christs resurrection.
Jesus appeared to over 500 people for a period of 40 days after His death, to deny their testimony is to baselessly accuse a mass group of people of all being under simultaneous delusion. One of those accounts being that of Saul of Tarsus, stating His transformation of once persecuting & rejecting Christ came by his encounter with the risen Christ on the road towards the city of Damascus.
Secular history books record the resurrection event as fact: Josephus(Jewish Antiquities 18.3.3), Thomas Arnold(History of Rome); 2 credible historians of their time recorded the resurrection as fact.
In modern times:
Frank Morrison, Lee Stroebel, & Josh Mcdowell all professed atheists sought to disprove the resurrection by historical means & by their studies came to the conclusion it had to be true and all 3 converted to Christianity.
Jesus Christs body was never found: neither Romans nor Israels leaders could reproduce the body even though it was in their best interest to do so, yet still to this day the tomb is empty.
Sir Lionel Luckhoo is in the Guinness book of world record as the greatest defense trial lawyer of all time, He won 245 consecutive murder cases & was knighted twice by Queen Elizabeth. Understanding this mans accolades & expertise in deciphering truth we then look to his quote regarding Christs resurrection: “I say unequivocally the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ is so overwhelming that it compels acceptance by proof which leaves absolutely no room for doubt.” - Sir Lionel Luckhoo (The Question Answered: Did Jesus Rise from the Dead?)
WLC is the most astute liar I have ever bothered listening to. Mute
Let's skip the argument about resurrection, true or false, for a moment. Christians say that Jesus died to save us. But I still don't understand it. Save us form what? What would have happened if he hadn't sacrificed himself for us?
Gaudio Wind hi. In a nutshell....... Consequence of sin is death. Jesus came so that man can live (afterlife). He came and fulfilled all the laws (perfect human, without sin). And on the tribulation, all those that believe in Him can be with God.
Hey Gaudio, Came across a site called - www.theresurrectiondecree.com/ looks at the Christian faith with Reason and Logic. Explaining the resurrection events, Trinity and Manuscript Evidence. Answering skeptic accusations and other topics. Very good source of information and encouraging one's faith. For both Christian and Non Christian. Well worth a read.
If Jesus wasnt sacrificed, we would all look forward to hell.
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@First Last Respectfully My Question is...If Jesus didnt die...and lets just say for arguments sake when moses was sent as a messenger also...and then when we commit sins...would we not Call upon God anyway to forgive us or feel regret in our hearts and understand Only God can understand us...why is it necessary for Jesus to die in order to belive in God when there were previous messengers sent and All there message was one? I understand the messengers sacrificed their lives for the greater good...thats understandable...but in comparison to the previous messengers...why was jesus God? what is there to prove that? and who did jesus ask forgivenesss from? and finally if jesus was God and he dies on a cross? are we then confirming that God can die?
Atheism doesn't require evidence. You must be new to this.
*I get the point he's trying to make, but it's not evidence.*
Jesus was not killed and was not crucified. He was just God’s prophet and God raised him to him before they humiliate him by crucifying him. And the main reason Jesus will come back again in the future is to die like all humans do.
You want evidence read the Quran and you will have evidence and the truth.
jurpleoi psn first its not written, it was send down as a verbal revelation from God to Mohammed.
Second, doesn’t matter when it was available. Reading it will prove to u the most important thing for u as human which is the author of the book is God himself speaking to us and humanity in general.
Once you arrive to this fact that the speaker is God, then you will know that everything u read is truth and facts.
Quran reasons with your brain doesn’t ask u to believe blindly.
Reasons with u logically.
And it came later to correct what the previous have corrupted from the gospel and the turah.
jurpleoi psn the author of the Quran claims he sent the gospel and the turah.
It’s the same source, of course there will be similarities.
Imagine the source is Apple
Turah iPhone 7
Gospel I phone 8
Quran master I phone (no more iPhones will be made after this one).
U asked for evidence I tried to help I don’t want to argue, believe is something in the heart.
U want evidence which can satisfy ur brain and heart, read the Quran.
U want to stay lost u can stay lost it’s up to u.
Quran:
Most certainly the example of Jesus is the same as of Adam, we created him from dust and told him be and it was.
If I feel like worshiping a man one day I’ll worship Adam not Jesus cuz Adam is more difficult to create than Jesus.
Dr Karl Pagan you are wrong and please watch ur language, if you have to respect to religion and God that’s your own business and choice but at least respect other people’s feelings.
You obviously spoke and judged something without reading it yourself, that’s an unfair, when u go to court they ask you to produce your proof that you telling the truth. So when u judge the Quran, u should say it’s bad because I’m chapter so and so there is X and it’s a contradiction or it’s a mistake and prove how’s it’s a contradiction or a mistake of any kind.
What your doing is telling someone you have cancer without taking any medical tests or samples.
Produce your proof.
Regarding bible it’s easy to find the proof. But show me ur proof in the Quran.
"I simply reject the notion of "Christianity" as a meaningful, unified concept"
"I therefore also reject any attempt at blanket statements covering what "Christianity""
So if a blanket statement shows unification, you reject it, and you reject that there is anything worth mentioning that unifies them?
That's akin to saying .."i reject the notion of squares, and i also reject anything you say that might show that a four sided object is "square-like""
Thank you Dr. William Lane Craig...
For what? He hasn't got a case.
There is some notion of resurrection from paganism in 1 Corinthians chap 15 verses from 35. Paul relates resurrection to seeds and crops. So it is clear that Paul was trying to make that connection. That is purely pagan and spoken to a ex-pagan audience
There is no evidence that those verses relate to crop cycle relations to pagan deities. Paul only explains the resurrection
Jesus rose from the dead? Hahahahaha! And I'm the Easter Bunny, and my father is Darth Vadar. And my grandfather is Santa Claus.
Your HAHAHA will turn inside out when you stand before Christ for Judgement.
BrandonX15 hahahah stfu bitch 😂😂😂😂😂
@@stephenmarcil94 Its all laughs and insults. You just wait and see! but at that point, there will be no turning back, no do-overs, no "I'm sorry I didn't know". It will be too late.
This guy defines boring.
@John Grygus
One's IQ never changes from the day you're born.
Schooled!
@bonerman345 Great comment. I loved the part where you made an argument.
"Judge not by appearance but judge by righteous judgment."..Jesus Christ.
What happens in the physical world is not evidence of the truth of God.
This is such nonsense. There is no evidence that Jesus even existed, let alone rose from the dead. Unbelievable stretch here.
Jesus is a historical figure. Like Julius Ceaser, Alexander the great etc.
@@eyeh8teliberalshat you hate are facts! The Jesus seminar, which involved 250 scholars, optimistic, pessimistic, apologetic and secular concluded as a group that the Jesus of history simply cannot be identified. Does that mean he did not exist? Certainly not. But it does mean, whomever he MAY have been, he simply escapes the historical record. First century Judea was one of the most documented periods in history. No one seems to mention a movement spreading through the holy land and rooted in a resurrected prophet. NOTHING. JESUS IS NOTHING MORE THAN A FIGMENT OF THE SUPERSTITIOUS IMAGINATION. THOSE ARE THE FACTS. SO HATE LIBERALS ALL YOU WANT, I'M SURE THEY DON'T LIKE YOU EITHER.
The shourf of Turin and eye witness accounts
@@Strongisland435 The Shroud has been revealed as a fraud. The so called eyewitness accounts cannot be authenticated. They don't appear for "decades" in any observable, historical way.
@@eyeh8teliberals Julie and Big Al left behind coinage, monuments and huge battle sites. Jesus? Zero physical evidence.
Just how,exactly, is any of this "evidence Jesus Christ rose from the dead"!?!?
Seriously. This nonsense only convinces people that already believe and have never studied logic.
It's not physical evidence, but evidence via process of elimination. The problem with denying the resurrection is that you have to explain something that would take leaps and bounds to do so: why would somebody in first century Judea believe in someone rising from the dead into a glorified body ahead of everyone else who has yet to experience the resurrection. In fact, you can even go as far as ask why anyone in first century Judea would believe in a Son of God at all. The problem with even beginning to assert that they could would go against any basic cultural understanding of what the worldview, live, thought process, history, scripture, and so on was like. To us, the idea of "the Son of God" is an easy concept to analyze. But in first century Judea, the idea would be unthinkable.
@@ZerogunRivale There is no such thing as "evidence by process of elimination." If you claim to know an answer for something, then you must show that answer is correct, you can't just pretend it's the default position because other explanations haven't been proved. Your problem is you are inherently biased and seem to think your extra ordinary claim somehow is the default position, when it can't be demonstrated in any reasonable manner.
"The problem with denying the resurrection is that you have to explain something that would take leaps and bounds to do so:"
The burden of proof is on you. I don't have to explain anything. Historically humans have written many legends and fiction stories. The problem with accepting the resurrection is that extra ordinary claims require extra ordinary evidence. A story is not that.
"why would somebody in first century Judea believe in someone rising from the dead into a glorified body ahead of everyone else who has yet to experience the resurrection."
Because they were tricked into believing such, just like with all religions. You don't have any eyewitness accounts, just stories written years to decades after the fact by people that never met Jesus. Why would you consider that credible evidence for an extra ordinary event? People believe in Chupacabra and all kinds of crazy stuff. Everybody's got a story. It's like asking why people in the 7th century would believe Muhammad witnessed a vision of Allah.
"To us, the idea of "the Son of God" is an easy concept to analyze"
It's easy to conceptualize what you have been indoctrinated into blindly accepting, sure, but that doesn't change the fact that the trinity is one of the most ridiculous concepts in all religions when looked at from an outside third party unbiased perspective.
"But in first century Judea, the idea would be unthinkable."
How so? They lived under the Roman empire which was polytheistic and has many gods and god sons / daughters. What on earth makes you think that concept was original? Sons of gods goes back to ancient Egypt, dude. It was nothing new then, and is nothing new now.
@@zachtastic625 and why are u here. So bothered by this topic? Lmao
@@modifythephasevariance6752 I'm here because WLC is deceiving people with subjective conjecture that actually proves nothing. Lies and deceptions need to be called out.
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The NT and OT is referring to death burial and resurrection of the inner man, the carnal flesh not the literal body. As flesh and blood does not inherit the kingdom. Unfortunately the teachings of Yeshua were corrupted by Rome and her pagan doctrines inserted. The virgin birth, the crucifixion, resurrection were not literal but spiritual and have deeper meaning. Like Yeshua said the kingdom is like treasure hidden in a field.
You wont find the truth unless you dig deep for it. It's not lying on the surface and only the spirit can reveal the truth.
That's not what the BIble says. Paul states within his letters that we will be resurrected into incorruptible, physical bodies covered in the glory of God. Jesus himself reaffirmed a physical resurrection (hence why he resurrected with a physical body first). This isn't a Roman invention, this is a very Biblical concept. The OT resurrection was said to be a physical resurrection as well. Pretty much every rabbinic scholar agrees on this.
God is gonna catch you, Mr Craig! When that happens you'll have the evidences you need.
No one has ever been able to answer the question " If Jesus was real, then why didn't he ever write a book of his own? Why did he rely on imperfect men to write his story for him? Why did it take multiple apostles to write the gospels and at different times?
testimony of third parties often serve as more compelling evidence than a person’s own claims, particularly when they are eye witness accounts.
He wrote thee book (the bible).
Jesus is God.
The bible is God breathed
It all speaks of Jesus.
In types and shadows.
Lo Jesus is contained in the volume of the book.
16All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17that the man of Godb may be complete, equipped for every good work.
@@danielmann5427 the bibble is man made
This guy reminds me of Ernest.
I find the gross abilities of apologists to obfuscate, obmit and circumvent the truth to be utterly mind-boggling. Jerusalem was a hotbed of intrigue and evil intentions, graft and corruption, collusion and bribery, robbers and thieves and those in dire need. Among this group, motives (a tomb and body (of a stranger) dripping in excess with some seventy pounds of the most expensive oils and spices know to man), means (enough men to remove the stone) and opportunities (the tomb was left unattended for a least sixteen hours and as much as sixty hours), abounded. Accordingly, there are just too many practical reasons why Jesus' tomb could be empty, all without the need for a miracle. The above and the following serve to dismantle the "miracle only" position and claim of apologists.
Jesus, along with his disciples, being from Galilee, was a stranger in Jerusalem with no family, friends or acquaintances there that we know of. Accordingly, the idea that Joseph took Jesus' body and placed it in a tomb is very suspect, on its face. It is the least probable of all the possibilities. Joseph, a man of position, prestige and wealth, had too much to loose before his fellow Sanhedrin members and the ever paranoia filled and suspicious Romans. Pointedly, there is no indication that idiots ever made it to that august body, the Sanhedrin. Accordingly, no member of the Sanhedrin would be so stupid as to bury the body of what had been shown to be, just another discredited, convicted and crucified self-proclaimed messiah. In Acts 5:36, the words of the great Jewish scholar and Sanhedrin member, Gameliel attest to this. Consequently, Matthews' (27:60) assertion that Joseph of Arimathea buried Jesus in his own family tomb is totally ludicrous and certainly a mythical creation as are a lot of the material in that book.
Craig's commentary shows an acute lack of imagination on his part and his inability to follow critical steps in the evolution processes. When I read the Egyptian Book of the Dead and other related materials, I can easily see the development of the idea of a resurrection. Who would/could ever believe that the heart continues to live after death. The ancient Egyptians did. Whoever wrote that: "God sought a man after his own heart." and "..you have been weighed (as the Egyptians weighed the heart) evidently knew much of what the Egyptians thought of the heart. Also, if man can think of parts of a body being torn apart and scattered as was Osiris' and then be reassembled to a functioning entity again, as did the Egyptians, then certainly he can think of a Jesus style resurrection. The Egyptians' society had all the ideas in hand for the making of a Jesus type resurrection. Accordingly, Jesus' resurrection was no more than the sum of notions gained from the Egyptians. Now certainly Craig knows this all too well. Yet, for reasons know only to him, he persists in following a trail of deliberate and intentional ignorance and therefore intellectual dishonesty. He knows better. If the truth matters then let it be told.
The truth hurts
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Here is what prevents the Bubonic Plague from killing people, from Wikipedia;
(Bubonic plague outbreaks are controlled by pest control and modern sanitation techniques.)
In the years 1347 to 1351, 1/3rd of the population of Europe died to the Bubonic Plague.
Parents would have been praying to Jesus of Christianity to protect themselves and their family from harm and children would have prayed to Jesus of Christianity to protect their parents from harm. Did Jesus tell them how to prevent Bubonic Plague when they were praying on how to protect themselves from harm? 1/3rd of the population died. The reason we don't usually have Bubonic Plague around is because of the modern sanitation and pest control. Was that to much for Jesus to explain to the Christians in Europe?
and that is called Faith. Thanks for adding to the discussion with your comment. However, not about a religion. About a relationship.
This is classic Argument from Personal Incredulity, Argument from Ignorance and Hearsay!
Not a single person wrote about this Jesus person during his supposed lifetime!
If this isn't a problem for you... you'll believe anything
Haha. Well it's the same way with Alexander the Great, Muhammed, and Socrates. But you probably agree with me that they all existed.
@@berwynsigns4115
Tired and weak argument!
The other people were just men!!! You ignorant simpleton!
Your guy was supposed to be the son of God!!!!!
And not a peep was mentioned!
warching this video had once again no scientific evidence. but it made me realize when you look at the big pic, its a concept without death to who he was, he could never be who he is
Christian Slayer I’m confused
Jesus was a prophet of God like all the prophets God sent, he was not killed or crucified, God raised him to save him from humiliation as he’s his servant.
And he will return again to die like all humans do and fight those who insulted him and called him God or Son of God which he never claimed.
He always made a big destination between him and God.
Bible:
“The father is better than I, the father is better than All, I can of myself do nothing without the well of the father”
Quran:
“Certainly the example of Jesus is the same of Adam, we created him from dust and told him be and it is”
The Quran is the evidence of God’s existence and truth speaker.
We do not have any contemporary evidence that Jesus even existed. Claiming we have evidence for him rising from the dead is the most fallacious wish fulfilment.
@Waterybint * We have no contemporary evidence and no writings by either Jesus or his disciples. We have only accounts by non eye-witnesses written long after the alleged events. The first docetic writings predate the alleged time of Jesus, explain that!
@jurpleoi psn No they weren't, Luke and Matthew are based on Mark and that gospel gives no eye-witness accounts or identities.
@jurpleoi psn the point is that the gospel of mark was written by a non-jew, non eye-witness, decades after the alleged events using no quoted sources and in fact using a bad translation of OT scripture to cobble together a fictional story format advert for christianity. As historical evidence for something goes, thats about as bad as you can get.
I was a born again, spirit filled believer. The real God brought me out of Christianity. It's taken time to deprogram myself from orthodox christianity. I am now free from sin, religious dogma, guilt, having to give money to a church, or waste my time going to church with a bunch of hypocrites. Jesus is a deception. The real creator and God of the universe will deliver all those misled by Christianity and its dogma.
Interesting how the commenters offer complaints about Craig's arguments instead of refutations for them.
You can't refute that which has no supporting evidence in the first place. He's just giving an opinion.
It's like giving a spiel on how blue is the best color and giving all my personal reasons why I believe that to be true and then stating my position is true because nobody can refute my subjective opinion. I mean how can you argue against the sky and ocean being blue? Shit evidence is shit evidence and Craig wouldn't know evidence if it slapped him in the face. That's why he can't come up with his own arguments and instead regurgitates old outdated philosophy from the past and other apologists.
@@zachtastic625
I don't think you realize how deductive arguments work. They don't depend on evidence like an inductive argument. Deductive arguments are necessarily true if the premises are true and the conclusion follows.
Armed with the knowledge I just supplied you with, it is your responsibility to show that either the premises are not true or the conclusion does not follow.
@@captainunload Without evidence, the premise can not be confirmed. If the premise cannot be confirmed, then the conclusion is speculative. All apologetic claims have at least one of the following.
1. Assumption
2. Faulty logic/fallacy
3. Speculative premise
4. A narrow or outdated scope of reality that suggests there cannot be any other possibilities.
I'd be happy to demonstrate that if you want to pick an particular argument and focus on it. Claims without proof are useless. Anybody can speculate about what ifs. I care about what IS and what can be demonstrated. Anybody can come up with some half baked sophistry to justify a belief. You need more than that. Arguments are not proof in themselves.
@@zachtastic625
So, in the case of the Cosmological Argument, which of the premises do you maintain are without evidence?
1. Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
Which of these statements do you disagree with?
@@captainunload #1 cannot be proved, #2 is an assumption that nobody can know.
Simple.
Cosmological argument has nothing to do with god, all it suggests is that the universe likely has a cause, but again, nobody knows. This is why logic by itself with no facts is useless.
So his argument is that everybody believed it and that it had never happened before? ... not so good.
He just walks out and says, "There is no evidence!" And just tapdances offstage
Was Jesus a zombie
I can prove god. Read the Bible. Wait! God did not nor endorse the Bible.
axer351 God endorsed the Quran and that’s the proof of God’s existence.
LEILA Z JEESUS IS THE TRUTH HOLY BIBLE IS TRUTH READ THE BIBLE
Maybe he just passed out and woke up after a deep recovery sleep
It's pitty you lack the historical knowledge and comment stupidly.
I suggest you do your research
How else can you possibly explain a myth of a guy that dies and then comes back to life?
@@vtron9832
By asking God how it's possible and also by doing your own research about it.
That's the best way.
Mithun Mith ok, but that would create problems.
1. By asking “god” i am assuming that one of the variables is always constant (even though it is never proven or validated in any sort of way) and I can experiment with it. (Also not true, because apparently, asking “god” is not the same as observing something concrete in space or time)
2. Sure I can do my research, and yes it proves that people can die and come back to life, but a body starts to lose functions shortly after holistically dying, and then after maybe a day, bacteria in the gut start to decompose. Unless proven by experiment, I don’t think it’s possible to restore a man back to life after three days, especially considering that the people resuscitating today are aided by medical personnel, while Yeshua was left alone in a cave.
The Roman soldiers made sure he was dead. If they failed then they would be put to death themselves
"But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith. 15In that case, we are also exposed as false witnesses about God. For we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead, but He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised.
16For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to be pitied more than all men."
and there is no evidence for resurection, case closed
@Bengali Warrior I still think he was an illusionist. Walking on water can be done today, it's not that hard. The resurrection was a magic show.
Omg can you say, “Superfluous” !? He spoke a thousand words and never said a thing....
I simply reject the notion of "Christianity" as a meaningful, unified concept, since the various interpretations and doctrines are so different that agreeing on Jesus = Saviour is meaningless minimalism on the level with "Abrahamic religions".
I therefore also reject any attempt at blanket statements covering what "Christianity" leads to or preaches, or what morals can be deduced from "Christianity". If history is any guide, it's that "Christianity" is as diverse as "Christians" (aka "humans")
Sir. Beautifully said👌🤘
The bible is one of the greatest comic books of all time🙏🏼🔥🔥
Jesus Christ real father was crucified upside down when God's start evolving like man that might believe until then it's a man made myth for me
what if they chose to have a religion ? You cant stop them. I would like to see you stop almost 4 billion people and growing.
Well if jesus didnt resurrect then the religion would be pointless
@Gb11Pack Yes - true. And you must receive the Sacraments.
@@stefanwinsett1158 Christ hated religion,he taught the religious leaders where pigs.
@@577buttfan im not talking about religous leaders bruh im talking about gods rulea
@@577buttfan Yes indeed, he said "Pick up your cross and follow Jesus". Religion says follow us. Follow Jesus only.
since jesus died, he was not immortal. since he was not immortal, he was not god as per bible.
@Rep Raptor98 creator does not need to be a creation. then it limitizes his characteristics. you make a computer, you don't require to be that computer.
r rahman Actually quite the opposite. He became man to identify with man. He cane specifically to die & to rise. I’m doing so he conquered death. If anything it is way deeper and shows God’s love. He could have wiped out this earth. He chose to do something incredible. He chose to come and interact directly with man.
Not entirely accurate to claim Pagan myths of dying and rising gods are utterly unlike the death and resurrection of Jesus. Mythic symbology around the vegetative cycle accounts for some, but not all, such Pagan resurrection beliefs & going back far enough there were at least some claims of historicity too.
Major distinctions arise by the time we get to current Christianity. But the idea of resurrection/perfection was not new back then & it didn't have to be, to be powerfully transformative.
Is this the guy from The Office
Because no one in the first century there were very few christians--the gnostics. The utterly rejected the idea of a human, physical jesus. No one was claiming a physical jesus existed--his resurrection was spiritual. No one bothered to write down jesus' name during his supposed lifetime. Not one person. No one quotes from a gospel until around 150CE.
Video is titled “Evidence JC rose from the dead”, but Craig starts talking about what disciples believed...
That's normal. They literally have no arguments supporting Jesus, just that "some people in the past were convinced it was true," not that they witnessed it or who witnessed it, not to mention every single account of Jesus came 20 years after the events in question.
It's laughable how desperate apologists are today. They simply can't even acknowledge that their religion is faith based, that's the funny thing, and Muslims claim the same exact nonsense about the Quran. People can be convinced things are true, it doesn't make them actually true. Millions upon millions of people today are convinced of false beliefs.
He forgot to present any evidence that Jesus returned from the dead.
he also didn't present any evidence fore the 6 people in the Bible who returned from the dead before Jesus's resurrection... or for the people in the bible who returned from the dead after Jesus' resurrection.
Perhaps you forgot to watch the video but commented anyway.
@@0004voltz A story making a claim is not evidence. LMFAO!
@@zachtastic625 You will not find God in a science lab. If you were expecting to see test tubes, I feel sad for you.
@@0004voltz Funny, because you won't find him ANYWHERE. It's almost as if he doesn't exist!
@@zachtastic625 To find Him you have to seek Him with a genuine heart. If you truly seek you'll find Him but if you hoping God doesn't exist so you can cling to your sins, He will send you to hell.