West Ham Have Made a HUGE Mistake!?
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Cal Freezy + Theo Baker + Lewis Bowden = Unlimited dusty ball knowledge I’ve had to get counselling after listening to this rubbish
100%
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CAN PPL NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS NOT OLD WEST HAM. The standards change when you level our home and spend top 10 in the world.
If you’re not a West Ham fan (I’m not) or you don’t watch them week in week out you can’t talk about them. They’ve been playing shocking football, getting bad results and have struggled so much defensively. It was definitely time to go. I have my doubts over Lopetegui but it was definitely time to go for. Moyes
Wait, so you're not a WH fan but you can talk about them? Anyone can say what they want. If it's uneducated and irrelevant, it should just be ignored. It's no secret some of the arguments offered up on this show are ridiculous but it would be even less entertaining if they only spoke facts and offered no opinions. These guys get most of their traction from their bad takes.
@@S14N9LSyour missing the point to have a strong opinion you have to at least watch the team play, you cant just make an argument out of thin air after watching 5 mins of highlites
@@user-ud7gm4is6t I wasn't missing any point. I was being ironic to prove another point. Once again...No; there's a huge difference between a
"strong" opinion and a "relevant/informed" opinion. Anyone can have a strong opinion and still be completely wrong. Look at most politics. All kinds of people have extremely strong opinions about political points they haven't the slightest clue about. Their opinions don't evaporate - they're just irrelevant. In that case you can try to educate the opinion holder but it most likely won't do any good. In this case, these guys make a living off bad opinions and wouldn't stop having them for anyone's sake.
It’s not about that for me, I’m not a fan but I did watch them for probably 33/36 weeks this season. It’s more about the fact of how they have treated Moyes like SHIT as if he didn’t win then a trophy after 43 years. Scum fans.
You seem to be talking about West Ham whilst not being a West Ham fan
4 wins this year & yet these muppets say we've made a mistake!
Gets told we have 4 wins in 2024. “That play style gets results”. Needs a knock on head
How is a Newcastle fan telling us what we are.
Ironic talking about expectations as a Newcastle fan
Coming from a west ham fan
We have 4 wins since Jan 1st
Way too many goals conceded
It’s just a changing of the guard
We need to implement a more forward progressive style of play
Oh fuck offfff ur West Ham, try and offer more attacking you’ll be back in relegation cos ur defense is shocking, moyes as sured ur whole team up
Especially since what managed r u bringing in better than moyes? Amorim? Cos Liverpool rejected him and if u really wanna move to the next level he’ll set u back a couple years to change ur style of play
@@t0nkyt0nerat least Amorim is in consideration, Moyes will never be near the Liverpool job
@@t0nkyt0nerwe don’t care if we get relegated we have won 4 games this year are youth don’t get a chance are squad is as thin as anything kudus wants to leave because off Moyes Alvarez wants to leave the only reason Bowen signed a new deal was because he knew Moyes was leaving how about you actually state facts then start talking
@@t0nkyt0ner 🤣🤣🤣 yeh dont try and improve in life because you have been dealt bad cards. You need to reset your mindset young G
Turning off after 2 minutes. Listening to a Newcastle fans call West Ham a midtable team is incredible! 😂
We've won 3 games in the Prem in 2024, conceded 70 goals this season (only clubs in the relegation zone have conceded more) and even Moyes himself has said the split is needed. The 3 at the desk have known nothing but glory all their lives, they don't know what it's like to support a team who for most of their lives have been shit. We've finally started to see some progress and Moyes has undelivered, he admits this himself. Please stop with this waffle, the separation is justified.
Cal 100% knows what it’s like and so does Lewis. Cal would’ve seen us win 1 league and 1 UCL. That’s not successful for 30 years
@@doubletapthatdotty4597 what? cals seen his club win as much as theo and reeve have lmao
@@adambassuni6084 Theo and reev have won less.
Ppl forgetting we were like 7 points clear of chelsea, newcastle and now we're comfortably below them. If we had a better manager we would be challenging united properly
Though Lewis was a Newcastle fan, I woulda thought he’d remember Moyes throwing away a 3-1 lead in the 80th minute
All their money has made Newcastle fans forget where they came from
Made Lewis forget "
Lol.
U would think he was talking about city
Talksport brain washed rubbish. Moyes is an extremely limited manager and cannot understand how to use a squad. all he does is make good players worse and bad players average. he ignores half his players, its disgusting
As a West Ham fan, I both agree and disagree with everyone.
Yes, Moyes helped us with a trophy, last year but we also were dog awful in the league and finished 14th. This year, especially the second half of the season, we have played some of the worst football I've seen in 25 years of support (palace, fulham and arsenal, just to say), we are a top half team and have conceded 4+ goals way too many times this season . He's stagnated, both in improving us and tactically. Lopetegui isn't the new manager I would dream for (that's Amorim but Sullivan is a frugal man), but he turned Wolves season around after they were dreadful, sured up their defence (something we need), has vast youth knowledge and is happy to implement them, and did wonders with sevilla too. I will forever be grateful for Moyes but its time to move on.
Is o Neil beyond consideration
@@t0nkyt0ner Gary, not at all! Ex West Ham Player, seems to be a decent coach, I just think sullivan is too nervous to take a chance on a newer/younger manager/coach.
Martin? God, never ever in my life would I want him near West Ham
David Moyes is a great manager but… last year we were fighting relegation, this year we have conceded the 3rd most amount of goals in the prem only won 4 times in 2024, have conceded 4 goals or more the most in the prem (apart from Sheffield), lost twice to Bristol, can’t even bring up Arsenal and Chelsea game, argued and disagreed with decisions made by the chairman’s and director, and constantly blames the players.
i hate this idea that teams aren't allowed to aim for improvement and just settle for what they have because their name is 'x'. 4 seasons ago (talking about league) West Ham, Villa and Newcastle were pretty equal, since then Newcastle and Villa (probably) have had a new manager and smart recruitment which sees them finish in a Champions league place. Why isnt the big six competition an issue for them? The name of a team should not hold so much weight in determining where people think they should be finishing in the league. West Ham's current attack is borderline Champions League quality but Moyes chose to set up with a defensive mindset no matter the opposition. This saw us barely scrape a win and a draw vs Burnley, a win and a draw vs Sheffield, a 2-0 loss to Forest, a 5-2 loss to Palace, a 4-1 loss to Villa, 3-0 to Utd, 6-0 to Arsenal, 5-1 to Liverpool, 5-0 To Fulham, aswell as getting knocked out the Cup to Bristol City. David Moyes has done and excellent job at steadying the ship, but he is not a manger to try and compete at the higher levels. I respect him massively but it is time to move on.
That build up is incredibly slow . You don’t just go from a Sudan to a Ferrari .
@@abyeadchowdhury2529 the build up that took howe and emery 3 months...
I think that two things can be true. David Moyes has been our most successful manager in our club's history, however; he needs to go at the same time. I will always appreciate what he has done for the club, getting us into Europe 3/5 seasons he was there, and getting us our first trophy in 40 years. However, he's reached his ceiling for us as a coach. We want to hopefully move on from just getting top 6-7, and hopefully move into the CL spots.
David Moyes will never get us there, because he is terrible at making lineup changes/tactical adjustments. He's cost us many a game because he either puts on the subs WAY too late, or he takes out our only offensive output, and plays to defend our leads, and not try to extend our leads in games. That's a big reason why we lost to Newcastle this season, was because he took off Antonio and JWP, and put on Ben Johnson (a RB), and Kalvin Philips, who is the worst loan player that our club has ever had. We took off our offensive threat, and played to hold out, and got battered on the other end for the last 30+ minutes.
Ron Greenwood and John Lyall both won 2 trophies at West Ham. I respect David Moyes for helping us to win the Europa conference league, but he's spent a lot of money and quite a few of the signings haven't worked out, the style of football is awful to watch most of the time also. It's time for him and the club to move on.
4:03 the new west ham manager (Julien) was not sack. He chose to leave Spain before the WC because he sign with Real Madrid
rare lewis W with the competitiveness of 10th to 6th with Brighton, Newcastle, villa, Bournemouth next season and West Ham taking into account the top 6 goes back to what it is then what do west ham expect they have peaked and loputegi as much as I like him as a coach will not replicate what Moyes achieved .
People saying they should be top 7 easy😂 so they have to finish above the big 6 and then Newcastle and Villa😂
West Ham fans were calling for moyes out when they were in top 4😂 ungrateful bastards
Hammers fan here, Moyes as manager has been unsustainable since last year, especially in the Premier League. We finished 14th and we’re fighting relegation for a lot of the season. The conference league was the best day of my life as a West Ham fan, but it covered a lot of cracks. If you don’t watch West Ham, you just cannot understand our perspective, 5-0, 6-0, 5-2 losses just to start. We are all thankful to Moyes overall, he stabilised our club and we can’t thank him enough, he just can’t take us further is all, and all parties have accepted it
And just to add, Lopetegui plays a different style to Moyes, he’s possession based and doesn’t play a low block. In my opinion it’s not the worst recruitment, not who I would’ve picked but we have limited options
The truth about the GAS LIGHTING David Moyes, these are not my opinions as they are clear FACTS!
1. When Moyes took over the managers job in 2013 he sacked all of Fergies multiple league & cup winning backroom staff because Moyes wanted complete control of all of the aspects of the club. 12 years later the club have still not recovered from his incompetence
2. Having been SACKED by United in 2014 Moyes moved onto Real Sociedad where he lasted a year with a win rate of 29% before being SACKED AGAIN
3. During Moyes' time at Real Sociedad he did not make any attempts to learn Spanish. Sometime later Moyes got a new rule introduced within the Scottish FA that all new Scottish Managers who were undertaking their required badges had to learn a second language even though HE NEVER DID!
4. In 2016 Moyes joined Sunderland where he got them RELEGATED after achieving an amazingly low 19% win rate. Just like Man Utd, Sunderland have never recovered from it!
5. Moyes agreed to take over the WHU manager job whilst Slaven Bilic was still in charge 2017 (Slimy or what) for Moyes to then go onto having a 29% win rate even though Bilic win rate was 38%
6. In 2018 WHU decided not to extend Moyes 1 year contract so they brought onboard the 10 yes TEN managerial trophy winning Pelegrini as their new manager. The board had a knee jerk reaction in sacking him 18 months later in 2019 when WHU were in the relegation zone even though there was a good chance that he would have secured Prem League safety had he been allowed to carry on.
7. The WHU board decided to bring back David Moyes who previously had a 29% win rate to replace Pelegrini who had a win rate of 38% (the same as Bilic)
8. Moyes steadied the ship over the next 4 seasons whilst "AS HE LIKES TO TELL EVERYONE" that "HE" won them their first cup in 40 years ... and he did ... but look at the FACTS ... as the WHU had given Moyes over £500m worth of talent over the past 4 years. The really amazing fact is that this sum of money was MORE than ALL OF the teams that WHU played in that European competition COMBINED!!!
9. Moyes has an amazingly concerning poor history of hand picking new players himself that cost the club tens of millions of pounds to then play them out of position. When it all goes wrong as it commonly does, Moyes then gives the players the cold shoulder and pushes them out of the door at a major financial loss as he did with Haller, Scamacca, Benrahma, Vlasic & Cornet to name a few
10. WHU has one of the best academies in world football at the moment but Moyes simply will not play these young players even in cup competitions against lesser teams like Bristol City who funny enough beat WHU because our team was simply tied because of the lack of player rotation
11. Considering the £500m that Moyes has wasted over the 4 years, he is leaving the club with the smallest and OLDEST squad in the Prem League.
So there you go, just a few FACTS about the useless snake oil salesman David Moyes who for some really weird reason has the football media in his pocket as they constantly patronise the WHU fans with ignorant statements like "Be careful what you wish for" as these clowns don't pay to watch the narcissistic one trick negative pony David Moyes terrible so called football
West Ham have defenders who are bad on the ball, but other than that their team should definitely be around European places with a good style of play. If they played as they do against good teams and go for it against rubbish ones, they wouldn’t have dropped so many points to lower sides.
The disrespect to a trophy winner as if he hasn’t done anything isn’t good, hopefully he gets that when he has left
Lopetuige signed a contract with Real Madrid just before the euros and Spain didn’t like that so they sacked him, only for him to get sacked a few months later from Madrid. Anybody would take that Madrid job though
Moyes literally said he agreed and thought it would be the best decision for both sides to move on?
I'm not a west ham fan, but it's not that hard to understand why they don't want Moyes. It's not that they feel they're too low in the league, it's not ungratefulness for the European trophy. It's the football they play. The few times I've watched them this season it's been absolutely dreadful, even when they win.
lewis ignoring 99% of context and evidence to argue his point as usual. west ham have been carried out of relegation solely due to individual brilliance of rice, bowen and fabianski the last couple of years and paqueta, kudus and bowen this season. Theyre underlying data is dogshit lmao look how many wins theyve fluked this season
the ball knowledge on this podcast is honestly horrendous, they’ve won 4 games in 2024 in all competitions, they play dreadful football when they have some serious talent, if you don’t watch them weekly then you have no idea
Lopetegui got the sack just before the 2018 World Cup because he agreed to join Real Madrid after, which didn't go down well with the Spanish FA
He got the sack from spain because it was confirmed before it started that he was going to real madrid after the tournament and the FA didn't like that, so they got rid of him
These idiots know absolutely nothing about West Ham... so why are they commenting... they keep saying should they expect any better than 9th season before last we were 7th and 6th before that... and why do you have to accept less for better football... its just the same idiotic narrative... and Moyes clearly isnt getting results 3 wins in the prem 17% win percentage ... brilliant!!!!
United and Chelsea barely make 6th and you think West Ham in a realistic way should be ?
@@abyeadchowdhury2529 a couple of months we were above both of them so why not.. 6th before new year. teams have to take the chance when they can but Moyes fluffed his lines.. do your research before making stupid comments mate...
Not a west ham fan but getting rid of moyes is the right choice. People forget fans were calling for him to leave last year but because of the conference league they all forgot his awful league form. They have genuine world class players in kudus, paqueta, aguerd and are being wasted under moyes anti-football tactics
One of the Best managers, maybe. Most goals scored ever this season, definitely.
West Ham didn’t make a mistake letting him go but the replacement was the wrong choice.
They should of gotten Jose
Lopetegui doesn't play the same football as David Moyes he had to with wolves because he didn't have the players who are gd enough to play hes style
He’s not being sacked. HE isn’t renewing his contract so get the facts right first
We would be in relegation if table was from the start of the year btw
West Ham wage bill more then Newcastle imagine that
Yes Moyes won a trophy but don’t forgot that season we was in a relegation almost all season then this season we’ve won 4 games this year what’s speky going on about it brings results
3 wins in 5 months. Only the bottom 3 have conceded more.
yes "Calfreezy" Lopetegui sacked by Spain before the Euro's which famously took place in 2018!
Tom needs to come back and keep the producer bloke quiet
idk why lewis gets a mic dude genuinely doesn't know anything its horrendous to listen to
lewis is a typical glorhunting plastic, telling west ham fans that they should always be a midtable club and dont have the right to be ambitious, sick of all these dirty glorhunters thinking only their clubs deserve to be at the top
Up the pitch side (and backside)
P.s Theo’s bald lol
Absolutely appalling analysis on this podcast. Speaking as if you're a dedicated West Ham fan, yet ignoring glaring issues. Conceding 5 to Chelsea, Fulham, Arsenal (6), and Crystal Palace is unacceptable. Only 3 teams have conceded more goals, all relegated (remember we are a 'defensive team'). And let's not overlook our 4th least possession in the league, despite having Paqueta, Bowen and Kudus. We're also the 3rd lowest for attacks in the final third. With a keeper making the most saves in the league, our XG in the lower half of the table, and the 2nd oldest squad in the league, it's clear something's been wrong for a long time. We have spent 100s of millions here. Winning just 5 games this year while leaking so many goals is unacceptable for a 'defensive minded manager'. Lopetegui may not be the answer, but he must bring balance. End the defensive drills; we need more than praying for individual brilliance to win a game. Thank you Moyes for the incredible night in Prague but it was time to move on.
That speccy guy has Zero football knowledge btw. Should be banned from discussing the sport.
This Newcastle fan Sware he thinks he’s team mad
If you don’t watch West Ham week in week out you shouldn’t have an opinion on West Ham 😂 we have won 3 prem games in 2024 🤷🏻♂️
bring back tommy boy
but they love ugly football
Muppet show
Talking rubbish.
Lopetegui who you know managed the Spanish national team plays a similar brand of football to David Moyes 😭😭😭
What a bunch of muppets 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
Shut up about my glorious kings! Don’t you dare call my idols muppets! I love them😳🥺 now shut ye mouth ye tosser
"Calfreezy" a Liverpool "supporter" who I can imagine has been to Anfield less than five times and not once been to an away game
"Theo Baker" and "Reev" from Sussex and Leicester who pretend to support Arsenal for clicks on RUclips
Why is no one surprised this is shit
Just because you haven’t been to anfield doesn’t make you not a fan. You’re delusional if you think that’s true. There’s Indians who know more about the prem than you ever could yet they’ve never even seen a game live. I have been to anfield more times than I can remember and I’m Cornish, Lived there most of my life. But I wouldn’t say someone who hasn’t been to anfield isn’t a fan of the club. That’s mental. The fact they watch every week at an absurd time because of time difference is enough for me to show they’re a fan.
@@doubletapthatdotty4597 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@evanoshea1311 am I lying though 🥴