I have a m273 with 238,000 miles on it and still drives like new. Definitely have replaced the oil cooler gasket (both), water pump, recently power steering pump, radiator, engine mounts, those caps at the back. I mean I don’t mind it. It’s an older car so parts are cheap and the car is easy to work on.
I've owned and worked on the M273 and M113K - I always swore the W211 E550 (M273) was the BEST all round daily i've ever owned... even compared to my nicer S600 and newer C63s... - The M273 is amazing - just needs to be well looked after - the M113 is more durable to being abused.
281k miles on our 2009 GL450. Oil changed every 5k miles. Sent an oil sample from the last oil change to the lab to check the health of the engine. Elevated levels of iron, possibly from the cams. Just gonna keep running it as long as it’ll go! I just want to hit 300k, then it doesn’t owe me any more than that.
@@alextorkelsonIron in the oil is elevated, average is 17 after 6600 miles, mine measures 26 after 5000 miles. They say it may be from steel-on-steel wear like cam/lifters.
@@davidkrumwiede446 Oh damn! Which the M156 is known for too.. M156 and M273 came out at basically the same time as each other, so I suppose no surprise
I own one on my CL500 2009 it has about 90k miles on it and I must say everything on this engine is easy, easy to maintain easy to replace easy to fix…. Super reliable so far I am considering to replace the chain tensioner soon as I get some noise at cold start coming from the chain but quite lightly…
@@peanutpckrupper3323 definitely should do that 💯 I have a E550 (m273) my brother in law has a cls 63 amg . Which is the m275 I believe . and that shit is quick / sounds amazing
Great video again guys, loved to watch it and also great that you made an in depth technical video about a specific engine again - love this kind of content You guys somehow manage to always have a great vibe in your videos and I also really like that fact that your technicians are involved in the videos as well, keep on going and you'll become a very successful channel - I'm totally sure about that Drink a beer on me 🍺, best greetings from Germany
My M273 on w221 chassis made in May 2010 , it's bulletproof in Ten years of owning the car I had no trouble whatsoever, it has 433K kilometres, am very strict with maintenance, fully synthetic oil changed at 5000 but in recent years I started to change it at 3500 , I only changed the oil cooler at 200K ... Some hoses due to age and the secondary air Injection. For the PCV I changed it yearly for both the high load and the low load just in case. Now my Intake manifold arm broke I ordered new genuine pierburg for 600
Thanks guys, great summary of potential issues on the M273. Only comment I´d add to the question of repairing the linkage on the intake manifold vs replacing the entire manifold: I´ve heard of cases where the plastic flaps inside the manifold got brittle with age and ended up inside the engine. That´s why I chose to replace the intake manifold after 15 years on my 2009 E550. All there is to say about the M273 really, awesome powerful engines with a sweet V8 tune and not too bad when it comes to fuel economy either.
We had an s550 with head gasket problems that we fixed with engine sealer. I know it’s ghetto but it worked fine at 258k miles the driveshaft going to the front wheels wobbled and smacked a hole in the side of the transmission. Idk if it’s better than the 113.
What's the most reliable v6 and v8 Mercedes engine(s)? I love the Mercedes styling and performance. Lexus have the reliability but the performance is dull.
In your opinion, is this engine more reliable than the M278? Looking at picking one of these up in a W212 E class and am debating on which era V8 to grab
@DCMotorWerks I appreciate the response! Funny enough I just watched that and sent it to my dad who has an S class with that motor. Truly great content guys thank you! Any word on the M276 engine? The face-lift E350 is very appealing at this point
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@@DCMotorWerks The later ones are much better but then they are also way more expensive. Most of the forbidden fruit is like a 2011 S63 or 2012 E550 or something early. That I would stay away from.
So you start by opening up a M273 with only 38,000 miles on it with a worn out timing gear???? You just answered your own question. I have 2 E430’s with the M113 with over 250,000 miles, never a problem. The best V8 they ever made.
Eh. Do a bunch of 113 valve covers, rear mains, etc like we have and the small run of 273’s with the idler gear issue aren’t anything to fuss about. I’ll take the 273 anyday
Hi there, just complete a Google search for a Mercedes-Benz VIN decoder. After entering your VIN number, the results will show your engine number. It's the last six numbers of the sequence that are important. Cheers, Tim
I'd say the last good bmw v8 was in the e38/39 chassis with the M62/S62 engine... all the later ones are not reliable in my opinion, talk about connecting rods and other problems in the S65 M3 or the even newer ones you talked about with the N63 that have all sorts of problems I have to admit though BMW always delivers on their bread and butter motors, the inline sixes (not the diesel ones anymore unfortunately) I think overall every manufacturer has their own great designs and innovations but also horrible engineering choices on the other hand so it's basically hard to say that one brand overall is good or bad
He explained why. I’ve had 3 cars with the M273 and currently have 1 (E550). Have never had a hint of a problem with the ones I’ve owned. There was a batch (pre 2006) that had bad teeth on the timing gear. They were pro rated under warranty. But the 273 in general is a solid V8 and they make great power (400hp) from a naturally aspirated engine. I’ve never had one go wonky on me. And always maintain a perfect idle.
Bro are you mental? This is ONE example - look at the million other comments where they have > 200k KM or miles on them - mine got to 125k before i sold it with no issues.
My M273 on w221 chassis made in May 2010 , it's bulletproof in Ten years of owning the car I had no trouble whatsoever, it has 433K kilometres, am very strict with maintenance, fully synthetic oil changed at 5000 but in recent years I started to change it at 3500 , I only changed the oil cooler at 200K ... Some hoses due to age and the secondary air Injection. For the PCV I changed it yearly for both the high load and the low load just in case. Now my Intake manifold arm broke I ordered new genuine pierburg for 600
Nice - the Pierburg intakes make a WORLD of difference. My 2006 E550 with the 273 never had the issue, but my wifes ML350 with the more problematic M272 - drove SO much nicer with the new intake - so you'll be suprised when its fixed I hope :)
@@thatmatty231guyThat's good to hear, hope it makes a difference as you say, for sure I noticed the engine vibrating and sucking a lot of fuel after it broke off so I hope it make more MPG, Thanks for sharing
I have a m273 with 238,000 miles on it and still drives like new. Definitely have replaced the oil cooler gasket (both), water pump, recently power steering pump, radiator, engine mounts, those caps at the back. I mean I don’t mind it. It’s an older car so parts are cheap and the car is easy to work on.
I've owned and worked on the M273 and M113K - I always swore the W211 E550 (M273) was the BEST all round daily i've ever owned... even compared to my nicer S600 and newer C63s... - The M273 is amazing - just needs to be well looked after - the M113 is more durable to being abused.
281k miles on our 2009 GL450. Oil changed every 5k miles. Sent an oil sample from the last oil change to the lab to check the health of the engine. Elevated levels of iron, possibly from the cams. Just gonna keep running it as long as it’ll go! I just want to hit 300k, then it doesn’t owe me any more than that.
We have one that comes for service with about 305k on it.
Did they say how elevated the levels were?
@@alextorkelsonIron in the oil is elevated, average is 17 after 6600 miles, mine measures 26 after 5000 miles. They say it may be from steel-on-steel wear like cam/lifters.
@@davidkrumwiede446 Oh damn! Which the M156 is known for too.. M156 and M273 came out at basically the same time as each other, so I suppose no surprise
Wow! Congrats!
This happened on my M273 at 140,000 miles. Kept the vehicle until the transmission went at 254,000 miles. GREAT engine! 2007 GL450
I own one on my CL500 2009 it has about 90k miles on it and I must say everything on this engine is easy, easy to maintain easy to replace easy to fix…. Super reliable so far I am considering to replace the chain tensioner soon as I get some noise at cold start coming from the chain but quite lightly…
As the owner/builder of an M273 swapped GLK I say yes it's way better than the M113
I’ve wanted to do that! What a rocket
@@DCMotorWerks oh yeah it rips, with the 6 speed manual it's so much fun. I'm investigating an M275 swap now.
@@peanutpckrupper3323 definitely should do that 💯 I have a E550 (m273) my brother in law has a cls 63 amg . Which is the m275 I believe . and that shit is quick / sounds amazing
@@trapgod3959 the 6.3 AMG motor is the m156
Lmao keep coping hard buddy
M119 was badass. Great reliable engine. My S500. Is old reliable now, never have a issue or worry
Love the M119. I still consider that more of a vintage V8. Planning a video on that engine....
I proudly own the mighty but much, much older V8-grandfather, the M 100 engine! 😉😄.....in a 6.9
I have one of those too :-)
M113K is my favorite engine. Not sorry about it.
Im stuck with the m278 engine😂, yes 140k miles as well, just wish me luck please 🙏, so far running great as far as I’m concerned.
Great video again guys, loved to watch it and also great that you made an in depth technical video about a specific engine again - love this kind of content
You guys somehow manage to always have a great vibe in your videos and I also really like that fact that your technicians are involved in the videos as well, keep on going and you'll become a very successful channel - I'm totally sure about that
Drink a beer on me 🍺, best greetings from Germany
M113/m113k💪
My M273 on w221 chassis made in May 2010 , it's bulletproof in Ten years of owning the car I had no trouble whatsoever, it has 433K kilometres, am very strict with maintenance, fully synthetic oil changed at 5000 but in recent years I started to change it at 3500 , I only changed the oil cooler at 200K ... Some hoses due to age and the secondary air Injection. For the PCV I changed it yearly for both the high load and the low load just in case. Now my Intake manifold arm broke I ordered new genuine pierburg for 600
Good to know my 2010 cl550 is abouts 120,000 always kepts upbon all fluids amd maintenance
Mine i think is doing the same thing i have 130k miles scanner says left/right camshaft incorrect position
Thanks guys, great summary of potential issues on the M273. Only comment I´d add to the question of repairing the linkage on the intake manifold vs replacing the entire manifold: I´ve heard of cases where the plastic flaps inside the manifold got brittle with age and ended up inside the engine. That´s why I chose to replace the intake manifold after 15 years on my 2009 E550.
All there is to say about the M273 really, awesome powerful engines with a sweet V8 tune and not too bad when it comes to fuel economy either.
We prefer to replace
This was such a great video🙌🏼
So informative and thoroughly said, I appreciate the channel very much!
Rebuilding my m272 right now
Intake manifolds, oil coolers, camshaft adjusters, main bearings, etc. They were good for 100k and then fell apart
We had an s550 with head gasket problems that we fixed with engine sealer. I know it’s ghetto but it worked fine at 258k miles the driveshaft going to the front wheels wobbled and smacked a hole in the side of the transmission. Idk if it’s better than the 113.
hey i have one ticking 07 5.5,one day i gas it and the next morning it tiks,not like down ,more to the heads,to the passinger one
I really enjoy these technical projects. Thanks for the great explanation.
Hi from dubai. Which is best reliable g-class. Isit g500 or g63.
good video didn’t know much about these engines, shop looks like a cool environment to work in 👏
We have a great time! Thank you.
i have 2010 e500, the M273 has never pit a foot wrong.
So how do you guys think this engine will respond to boost ?
Great video thank you 👍
What's the most reliable v6 and v8 Mercedes engine(s)? I love the Mercedes styling and performance. Lexus have the reliability but the performance is dull.
Best V6 is the M272 after the 09 era. No turbos and really solid engines
M276 V6
M113K V8
M112 V6 and the M113 V8 are the most reliable engines.
In your opinion, is this engine more reliable than the M278? Looking at picking one of these up in a W212 E class and am debating on which era V8 to grab
Stay away from the 278. Watch our video about it
@DCMotorWerks I appreciate the response! Funny enough I just watched that and sent it to my dad who has an S class with that motor. Truly great content guys thank you! Any word on the M276 engine? The face-lift E350 is very appealing at this point
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Evan Eugenio ,DC MotorWerks
📷 man, brilliant 🎥ing ,footage thank you very much
👍
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From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 22:50PM Good Evening
are the replacement parts better then the old stuff that breaks? i wish you were in Texas!
Generally yes. It is case by case though.
This comment will be polarizing. I've had a W210 E55 with the 5.4 M113 and i now have an E550 with the 5.5 M273, i prefer the M273.
ok but can you tell why?
@@crustycaesar7396 smoother and more power, DOHC vs SOHC. I do think the M113 sounds better though.
I have a procharged unopened M273. It’s a rocket in my E class
I'd like to experience that.
What’s your instagram can you send me images or a video
Could I do in my s550
Don't M272 and M273 suffer from bore scoring and tapping noise on idle when hot?
The 278 does
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So with all those problems , is it better than the M113 or not ?
Evan needs to step up and get that M278
Forbidden fruit
@@DCMotorWerks The later ones are much better but then they are also way more expensive. Most of the forbidden fruit is like a 2011 S63 or 2012 E550 or something early. That I would stay away from.
@@kevin9c12013 s550, manufactured in September is 2012. Should I just keep looking for a 2010 it 11 model?
@@UncleSarkisyes, avoid it. Imo M272/M273 are far superior than the biturbo ones
@@naslazhdaysyamomentom your advice is my instinct and I didn't listen.
Can I contact you to do mine in the future?
Does the v8 use same balance shaft as the v6 if so its trash
Balance shaft not needed in the V8
So you start by opening up a M273 with only 38,000 miles on it with a worn out timing gear???? You just answered your own question. I have 2 E430’s with the M113 with over 250,000 miles, never a problem. The best V8 they ever made.
Eh. Do a bunch of 113 valve covers, rear mains, etc like we have and the small run of 273’s with the idler gear issue aren’t anything to fuss about. I’ll take the 273 anyday
I’m going to put a m273 in my c350 🌞
Not sure that will work
@@Spidepig09 the chassis is the same as the w204
No. It is not.
If your m273 eng number is greater than 088611 you're good
Correct
where to look that up in the engine code? Thanks!
If you have the VIN, use decoder to find engine serial. Or look on the engine itself @@kristingeorgiev3295
@@kristingeorgiev3295it's literally the last 6 digits of the engine serial number
Hi there, just complete a Google search for a Mercedes-Benz VIN decoder. After entering your VIN number, the results will show your engine number. It's the last six numbers of the sequence that are important. Cheers, Tim
Later BMW V8 are much better. The N63 of this era 14:00 had problems, too.
BMW has yet to make a V8 engine that is worth its weight. scored cylinders, timing chain problems, valve stem seals, oil leaks galore. They're awful.
@@DCMotorWerks
Kind of showing your lack of knowledge there. But since you do not work on then, how could you know?
I'd say the last good bmw v8 was in the e38/39 chassis with the M62/S62 engine... all the later ones are not reliable in my opinion, talk about connecting rods and other problems in the S65 M3 or the even newer ones you talked about with the N63 that have all sorts of problems
I have to admit though BMW always delivers on their bread and butter motors, the inline sixes (not the diesel ones anymore unfortunately)
I think overall every manufacturer has their own great designs and innovations but also horrible engineering choices on the other hand so it's basically hard to say that one brand overall is good or bad
@@BurntOrangeHorn78 after the M62 is when BMW V8 became dogshit
WHAT A SHIT ENGINE when you have to repair it after 38k miles!! 38000 miles IS NOTHING!! This is a VERY VERY BAD ENGINE!!!!
He explained why. I’ve had 3 cars with the M273 and currently have 1 (E550). Have never had a hint of a problem with the ones I’ve owned. There was a batch (pre 2006) that had bad teeth on the timing gear. They were pro rated under warranty. But the 273 in general is a solid V8 and they make great power (400hp) from a naturally aspirated engine. I’ve never had one go wonky on me. And always maintain a perfect idle.
@@Wargasm54382hp to be exact ?
@@Garage_Distinct_Clipswith tune from weistec 414 without the long tube headers & re tune extra 50 hp with no cats 464
Bro are you mental? This is ONE example - look at the million other comments where they have > 200k KM or miles on them - mine got to 125k before i sold it with no issues.
My M273 on w221 chassis made in May 2010 , it's bulletproof in Ten years of owning the car I had no trouble whatsoever, it has 433K kilometres, am very strict with maintenance, fully synthetic oil changed at 5000 but in recent years I started to change it at 3500 , I only changed the oil cooler at 200K ... Some hoses due to age and the secondary air Injection. For the PCV I changed it yearly for both the high load and the low load just in case. Now my Intake manifold arm broke I ordered new genuine pierburg for 600
Nice - the Pierburg intakes make a WORLD of difference. My 2006 E550 with the 273 never had the issue, but my wifes ML350 with the more problematic M272 - drove SO much nicer with the new intake - so you'll be suprised when its fixed I hope :)
@@thatmatty231guyThat's good to hear, hope it makes a difference as you say, for sure I noticed the engine vibrating and sucking a lot of fuel after it broke off so I hope it make more MPG, Thanks for sharing