lol what does the dealer have to do with manufacturers making the vehicles so expensive. You must think the dealers buy them for tens of thousands cheaper and make a huge profit huh ? If anything you should be mad at the brands for overpricing their trucks, but oh wait! You must also want the factories to stay in America and pay a living wage. Can’t have both ding dong. That’s why a lot of factories are going south of the border. To try and bring costs down, but are at the same time taking jobs away. You tell us the solutions keyboard warrior.
I don't understand how people buy these cars/trucks. I have a mental block for anything around $40K or more. It's insane to me that I bought a brand new F150 XLT 4X4 in 2019 for 37.4K OTD. Now they're listing them nearly $60K. I see used with the same miles as mine listed at $35K. It's insane.
Most of the customers who are buying these full size trucks are the types who don’t plan to use their trucks for utility or work in a daily basis. The trucks are simply a commuter vehicle bought “in case one day owner need to tow or haul something”. for the most part though, they’re around town family cruisers with a bed on the back.
@@Gramps83Diesel is even worse. The maintenance costs are unreal and then there’s the price for diesel. Unless someone is towing heavy, and I mean HEAVY, every day please go out and buy a used Tundra with the 5.7 or an F150 with the 6 speed and 5.0. You will be so much happier.
At my Toyota dealer the tundras are going for 75-80k and there’s like 4 lots full and doubled rows and the used is tundras with like 16k miles it’s crazy ain’t no one buying them
So when are they going to start marking down those vehicles they've been sitting on for over 1 year? Seeing new 2023s only a couple of thousand under MSRP. Do they just expect you'll try to haggle when buying?
It's insane how expensive they've gotten as someone who has been in the market for a 3/4 ton since 2020. I should have just bitten the bullet and bought one in 2020
@@ChoddedNloaded It's going to take 3-5 years for low mileage used cars to correct. Between the lost production and years of lower trade in volume there just won't be enough vehicles.
Personally, if I was going to spend that much, I would take the truck over the BMW all day long. I don't think either one is worth the price but to me there is way more value in the truck.
My fully loaded BMW X3 was 62k otd. There is something seriously wrong when mid tier luxury suvs like the BMW X3 and X5 are cheaper than a pickup truck.
Im not advocating for these high prices, but I would pay 60k for a loaded Tundra way before paying 60k for a BMW which will depreciate faster than a Trumps bible business….and then the maintenance on that poor ole BMW once it had 80k miles…not a good choice.
Yeah but used trucks cost 50k with 100k + miles on it .if I only drive 20k a year they already put the first 5 years of wear and tear and pay off into it then your paying off their truck and they get a free upgrade. It’s fucked
Ha ha ha! I recently asked why a Ford bronco was way overpriced for what it was. And at least once a week they call me telling me it’s still there. I should go offer them 30 grand less and see what they say ha ha
Oh no, why do we as a species not learn from history. This will end poorly. Those that have cash and no car payments will have a literal bonanza when this thing finally unravels.
They can keep them until they totally rot out at the current new and used prices. I also don’t understand why people buy trucks and don’t actually use them for their intended purpose. I might be willing to consider the new pricing if they were trouble free for 200,000 miles.
All rolling POS. the newy chevy and gmcs break down at sub 30k miles, new fords are on their 2nd trans with not even 1 yr in since 2018 models and newest trucks, dodge trucks are made out plastic inside the transmission talk about durability they break down at 60k miles...
I Used CarEdge to find the truck I wanted and then used the information from the website for negotiations. This was the most fun I ever had while in the market for a new car and it was because of your videos and website that took all stress out of the negotiation process. I got the exact truck I wanted and at the price. It took me 6 months and several negotiations to get what I wanted but it was worth it.
That's a lariat, dingbat. Lariat is one of their upper trim level (luxury) trucks. F150's start at about $50K new. You can order a base model truck for about $40K
By consumers foolishly buying such overpriced trucks, they're caving. Gotta stand up to greedy dealers
The only people buying a $70K+ truck are rich people.
lol what does the dealer have to do with manufacturers making the vehicles so expensive.
You must think the dealers buy them for tens of thousands cheaper and make a huge profit huh ?
If anything you should be mad at the brands for overpricing their trucks, but oh wait! You must also want the factories to stay in America and pay a living wage.
Can’t have both ding dong.
That’s why a lot of factories are going south of the border. To try and bring costs down, but are at the same time taking jobs away.
You tell us the solutions keyboard warrior.
And to think 8 years ago I decided to skip buying a truck because it was slightly out of my price range at nearly 26k
TOTALY INSANE!!!! $1000.00 per month payments. UNBELIEVABLY STUPID.
Double that
I don't understand how people buy these cars/trucks. I have a mental block for anything around $40K or more. It's insane to me that I bought a brand new F150 XLT 4X4 in 2019 for 37.4K OTD. Now they're listing them nearly $60K. I see used with the same miles as mine listed at $35K. It's insane.
Especially for a 1/2 ton. Diesel is a different story.
Most of the customers who are buying these full size trucks are the types who don’t plan to use their trucks for utility or work in a daily basis. The trucks are simply a commuter vehicle bought “in case one day owner need to tow or haul something”. for the most part though, they’re around town family cruisers with a bed on the back.
@@Gramps83Diesel is even worse. The maintenance costs are unreal and then there’s the price for diesel. Unless someone is towing heavy, and I mean HEAVY, every day please go out and buy a used Tundra with the 5.7 or an F150 with the 6 speed and 5.0. You will be so much happier.
Why the heck would anyone pay that much for a truck
because they love debt
Or maybe because they make money with their trucks???
@@Diesel437just a little less money 🤣
What's one of them normally worth in the US? Because theyre worth about $120k for a base model in Australia where im from
People who love to show off and dont care about debt. LOL
F these dealers. Let them do a market adjustment in the other direction
@@maxcodyshadow false, The manufacturers in the dealers are both screwing the consumer. And I no longer drive a BMW
the worse part is they want the same price new as they do 2 years old with 50k miles
At my Toyota dealer the tundras are going for 75-80k and there’s like 4 lots full and doubled rows and the used is tundras with like 16k miles it’s crazy ain’t no one buying them
So when are they going to start marking down those vehicles they've been sitting on for over 1 year? Seeing new 2023s only a couple of thousand under MSRP. Do they just expect you'll try to haggle when buying?
It's insane how expensive they've gotten as someone who has been in the market for a 3/4 ton since 2020. I should have just bitten the bullet and bought one in 2020
Man I’ve been waiting for used 2020 to drop but they cost the same just more miles . I really don’t think they’re coming down 😭
@@ChoddedNloaded It's going to take 3-5 years for low mileage used cars to correct. Between the lost production and years of lower trade in volume there just won't be enough vehicles.
Hang in there!
@@carcodog my plan is to go looking after Christmas and see if I can get a deal
Personally, if I was going to spend that much, I would take the truck over the BMW all day long. I don't think either one is worth the price but to me there is way more value in the truck.
My fully loaded BMW X3 was 62k otd.
There is something seriously wrong when mid tier luxury suvs like the BMW X3 and X5 are cheaper than a pickup truck.
Im not advocating for these high prices, but I would pay 60k for a loaded Tundra way before paying 60k for a BMW which will depreciate faster than a Trumps bible business….and then the maintenance on that poor ole BMW once it had 80k miles…not a good choice.
Yeah but used trucks cost 50k with
100k + miles on it .if I only drive 20k a year they already put the first 5 years of wear and tear and pay off into it then your paying off their truck and they get a free upgrade. It’s fucked
This is pure insanity. Who would buy this?
Knock 35k of that price and then it would be fair.
Ha ha ha! I recently asked why a Ford bronco was way overpriced for what it was. And at least once a week they call me telling me it’s still there. I should go offer them 30 grand less and see what they say ha ha
Oh no, why do we as a species not learn from history. This will end poorly. Those that have cash and no car payments will have a literal bonanza when this thing finally unravels.
They can keep them until they totally rot out at the current new and used prices. I also don’t understand why people buy trucks and don’t actually use them for their intended purpose. I might be willing to consider the new pricing if they were trouble free for 200,000 miles.
All rolling POS. the newy chevy and gmcs break down at sub 30k miles, new fords are on their 2nd trans with not even 1 yr in since 2018 models and newest trucks, dodge trucks are made out plastic inside the transmission talk about durability they break down at 60k miles...
So, those utes don't cost 120,000+ in the US? Cause that's what theyre worth in Australia
Interest rates are out of control. If they offer a lower interest rate they already tacked the increase into the prices. THEY are OUT OF CONTROL.
I Used CarEdge to find the truck I wanted and then used the information from the website for negotiations. This was the most fun I ever had while in the market for a new car and it was because of your videos and website that took all stress out of the negotiation process. I got the exact truck I wanted and at the price. It took me 6 months and several negotiations to get what I wanted but it was worth it.
Some parts of the economy are doing well
A two year old xlt trim f150 for over 64k!? It wasn't long ago you could get a lariat 1 ton diesel dually for that smh.
Pick up trucks are like upper middle class car, bmw is upper middle class car. yeah makes sense.
Who's buying those cars?
How is it that they can hold on to something for almost 500 days and still make a profit? I guess their carrying costs are zero. Lmao
Too much equipment on them too.
75k for an XLT also
Yikes. Big yikes. Same price as the first house I bought
These are the fastest selling vehicles so they must be selling.
We're not interested in trucks. Come back when the prices of the explorers go down
And those are half ton trucks.
And it’s an clot T that lmaooooo
Yeah, but trucks have turn signals that work. LOL Can't really compare a truck to a BMW.
But you can get a really nice Sierra for 55, slt
That's a lariat, dingbat. Lariat is one of their upper trim level (luxury) trucks. F150's start at about $50K new. You can order a base model truck for about $40K
Id rather have a truck than one of those even worse pos BMWs.
2019 bought a f150 lariat MSRP 71k for 51k. Today that SAME SPEC lariat is 86k. No thanks, I’ll just fix whatever goes wrong with my truck.
People need to do their research and not just be stupid