@@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace the scuff controller came out a month ago I bought it yesterday with the same problems I bought on launch (bluetooth not working, deadzones, drifting of the controller) I believe scuff said that to keep people from returning them considering more than half of them has been returned
@@CarlosRamos-sz2bh nah man there's still a lot of issues being reported even after the firmware update. I was going to buy this controller but after going down a long rabbit hole of reviews and videos about it, I found that to this day there is just too much negative feedback surrounding it. We're talking about basic controller functions. So sad cuz controller ergonomic design n look is almost flawless.
Probably nothing, they probabaly just gave him a controller lmao , this thing is a huge piece of shit and he obviously didn't review it , its just an ad , companys like scuff know how to take advantage of people like this 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Perhaps mine is defective, but the dead zones take up half of the range of motion of the control sticks. I would not recommend this to anyone over stock controller, even if it was half the price, hell, not even if it was free. Do not buy this, and do not listen to the sponsored sell out.
An Xbox One controller has removable rumble packs, a Touch Bar, trigger locks, remappable paddles, 2 extra buttons on the side, and swappable faceplates? Got it.
@@randomfrankp Honestly, if you haven't tried one yet check out the Elite controller, it's quality. The swappable face plates and a couple of extra buttons just don't seem worth the extra cost.
I think the only real issue at the moment is that this is coming out so late in the console's life cycle. If you have a PC I guess you can extend it's life but if you only play on PS4 this may not make too much sense, specially for the price. Solid product though.
Very high likelihood that the Scuf Vantage will work on the PS5 when that does come out in probably 2020 or 2021. The DualShock 4 controller works on PS3 even when you plug it in. Not to mention backward comparability easier to do when the console is the new thing and the controller is the old
I'm not saying it's a bad controller or that it's not worth the money, but with a new console about a year and a half away some people may not want to pay over $150 for a remote that will be replaced with a new one with possibly new features when the next gen console comes out.
Honestly this looks like the perfect controller for every hand size. I love my Hyperkin Duke controller and my PDP Afterglow Xbox controller; but I will definitely pick this up when it goes on sale!
It’s really not unfortunately. The offset thumb stick makes the left paddles super awkward to use. They changed the position of the thumb stick but left the paddles the same. As a result you have to hold your hand in a very awkward position to use the paddles. Also the paddles don’t always work, the remapping doesn’t work correctly, the control doesn’t turn on ps4, the control doesn’t work in blue tooth / wireless. The amount of problems at launch is insane. It is not worth a purchase. This isn’t an honest review.
I got one. Honestly Battle Beavers feel better to me. I kept hitting the Sax buttons by accident so i took them off. The outer paddles are a little easier to reach than the inner paddles are. As far as comfort the battle beavers feel better in my hand than the Scuf vantage.
6:46. I actually disagree with you about the vibration in the Xbox One Elite controller. In the Xbox accessories app you could completely reduce the vibration down to 0%. So actually, both the Scuf Vantage and the elite controller have that functionality of disabling Rumble features, the Scuf Vantage completely taking them out, and the elite controller just disabling it.
I bought this controller last week and its honestly one of the worst purchases I've ever made. Out of box had too many issues to deal with for its price tag, I talked to scuf directly and they were aware since day one. Please avoid the controller completely or buy the infinity for 4ps or astro C40. This controller was blatantly not finished and it can be seen in the product. I love your videos but please be honest or more in depth with some reviews to save viewers time and money.
From a lot of the reviews from people who actually spent their own money on this thing and not sponsored say there is multiple issues with this controller, the main and most important issue being the DEAD ZONE input from the analog sticks. I wouldn't spend 10 bucks on a controller with a bad deadzone never mind 200 bucks.....
Hell, if you don't like the color, pick up some paints for a model kit, and can recolor it however you want. The effect will likely be better if you're into modelling and have an airbrush, but a rattle can could do fine if you're careful not to get your coats too thick.
I’m sorry; but no gaming controller, is worth, between $150 - $190. 🤷♂️ That’s ridiculous....this company, is making, literally....200% profit per controller.
Deadzone issues Randomly turns on and off Turns off while wired even Button mappings reset every time you turn it on and off Sticks breaking in less than 2 weeks Just a few very common issues. This guy got paid very handsomely to lie
I bought this. Adjusted my trigger stops and every face button no longer worked. Every time I switched apps I had to disconnect then reconnect. Then after a week of use all 4 paddles stopped working. This was the vantage 2 btw, not the original.
It is nice but you should tell about how you have to charge it if you get the wireless version. It is rather a pain as you have to have your console turned on in order to charge it and it can't be plugged in after the console is turned off or it causes it to turn back on even if you put it in rest mode. Other than the charging issues it has it seems like a nice controller.
As a traditional PC and Xbox gamer, this generation I've been wanting to switch to PS4 (allllll the exclusives) but I've been worried because of the controller differences. A controller like this really convinces me to switch over
To anyone reading in 2019. If you’re interested in this controller GO FOR IT. The dead zone issue was just a firmware problem that got patched. It’s pretty much perfect now.
I ordered my vantage controller last Thursday and supposedly it will ship 3 to 4 weeks “ due to high demand “ but will it actually ship 3 to 4 weeks after order ? because I know there is a lot of people order these bad boys
Have you ever tried the Razer wolverine or raiju? I find it interesting that you say off the bat this is the best controller without trying any other on except for the terrible xb1 elite controller and a previous scuf.
Great deal. I'm going to buy 5 of them. To play with friends and (most important) to have a back-up in case I throw it against the wall when I'm frustrated. It is worth the money!
@@peqbox so... SCUF is saying, in implicit way, "DualShock isn't ergonomic, but the one of Xbox yes". Please, it's a clear thing and if you are saying that'snt, it's because you are a Sony fanboy
Marco Fiorillo No not really, I play both. I’m implying the fact that just because it looks like one, doesn’t mean it feels like it which is the truth from people who DO have the controller.
You can’t say it’s the best controller you’ve ever used while unboxing. I’ve heard of a large failure rate with these including dead zones and it keeps forgetting your button assign preferences. Wait until they get through the startup woes before buying.
I had high hopes for this controller. The sticks responsiveness are terrible. Dead zone is much larger than stock, and turn speed/acceleration is nonlinear, that is, it does not correspond with how much you offset the stick. Once you reach the end of the dead zone, you will turn slowly, and as you gradually increase the amount of offset, you suddenly begin to turn more quickly. It makes aiming at your target extremely difficult, and even choosing a menu item with a cursor is very awkward. I’m not sure how you could’ve read it this controller so well. Your entire video looks like a professional he put out commercial from scuf, maybe that’s it.
My Scuf Vantage controller abused me daily 30+ years ago..... It invited other scufs to join in... you could hear them vibrating down the hall and stairway. Due to this trauma, when I switched to xbox one X...I needed two... Thats right.. TWO elite controllers for my protection to make me feel safe..
I’m still reading a lot of bad reviews even after the firmware update. I ordered a controller from Aim Controllers as they have a lifetime warranty and stellar reviews. I would stay away from scuf and look into other companies out there. But for my money you can’t beat the lifetime warranty from Aim.
Too bad I can’t buy it in Australia. Price would be 300 here tho. Like I could buy a Xbox one with a game for that. I do like It tho. I must be the only person who holds the controller with middle finger on the triggers and pointer on shoulder buttons.
That D-Pad looks as rough as your standard 360/Switch controller. Anyone try fighting games with this controller? Can anyone KBD or B2 loops in Tekken with it?
Extremely misleading. Praising a product that has obvious flaws (and should honestly be recalled) puts a bad taste in subscribers mouths if they purchase the controller. Next time preface with this being a paid promotion.
No it makes sense to have the D pad in the lower position when games call for quick clicks to switch weapons and items. Offset position is way way better. Sony late to the party
Having the D pad lower makes it easier to use the D pad with the left or right hand quickly. That is why games like F1 are much better to play with the Xbox controller if a wheel is not available. For me the offset sticks are not the biggest feature although I prefer them over the simple design. It's when you have to use the D pad with the Sony style controller is when you realize it is an inferior design. It's exactly why this featured controller now exists.
Until they make an off axis Dpad good I rather have the PS4 joystick layout, especially since joysticks are usually terrible with dead zones and other issues I rather just move with the Dpad and have the joystick function as some sort of item management. Or, you know, play any weapon switching FPS type game on a PC with better overall precision in general.
This controller is horrible. Dead zone on the thumb sticks and horrible bluetooth connection. This guy is a paid advertiser.
Check to make sure there aren't any dead zones. Was hard for me to notice at first.
@@deusprogrammer_thekingofspace the scuff controller came out a month ago I bought it yesterday with the same problems I bought on launch (bluetooth not working, deadzones, drifting of the controller) I believe scuff said that to keep people from returning them considering more than half of them has been returned
I bought mine at game stope so i dont have to wait for shipping but idk if I can send it back to scuf itself
@@LegacyNiNJA I'm getting mine delivered on Wednesday after they announced a patch
This controller has a bunch of issues! Please be honest in your reviews even though you get paid.....
Agreed
The issues have been fixed with firmware update
@@adamjohnson5967 Suuuuuuuuure
EAGLE___EMPIRE they actually have dumb bitch
@@CarlosRamos-sz2bh nah man there's still a lot of issues being reported even after the firmware update. I was going to buy this controller but after going down a long rabbit hole of reviews and videos about it, I found that to this day there is just too much negative feedback surrounding it. We're talking about basic controller functions. So sad cuz controller ergonomic design n look is almost flawless.
LOL THE DUDE IS DELETING COMMENTS
Lol his feelings were hurt
Or maybe you guys are just being cry bully incels as usual. I got a bunch of scuff vantage one and two controllers and they are fine lol.
Wonder how much he got paid to say all this
a lot
That was my thought...quite seriously, every other review on RUclips says this is a crap controller, as well as all the comment threads.
Probably nothing, they probabaly just gave him a controller lmao , this thing is a huge piece of shit and he obviously didn't review it , its just an ad , companys like scuff know how to take advantage of people like this 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Great idea honestly but a shitshow of a controller taking mine back as we speak.. Cant believe they have the balls to sell it for $200 lol.
Scuf's little puppet
Never listen to sponsored videos, people. The Scuf Vantage has major deadzone issues.
you can buy a console instead of this controller
Is this sarcasm?
@@tehchonka5031 no because the controller almost costs 300€
@@derniax7513 holy crap 😂
what console are you going to get for $200
@@rehaanmoosavi5769 you could easily get a used PS4 for around $200....
Perhaps mine is defective, but the dead zones take up half of the range of motion of the control sticks. I would not recommend this to anyone over stock controller, even if it was half the price, hell, not even if it was free. Do not buy this, and do not listen to the sponsored sell out.
Had the same problem
Yours isnt defective. It's the worst controller I have ever used. Tragic I'll be returning mine on Saturday
It's the controller
Wow!!! for over half the price of the console you can get 1 controller! what a deal!
Youtan Poluo not just any controller. ... a XBOT Controller
MrIamcrusty but when you want Paddels? With X-Box design? 1. X-Box Elite 2. Nacon revelation 1 & 2 3. scuf vantage buuut not n Europe 😭
So basically an Xbox one controller? Got it.
Got to say, this thing looks cheap and nasty in comparison to the Xbox Elite controller.
Otacon91 Xbox is millions of times better... looks more beautiful.... and is perfect for my hands
Boomcheeks I agree! But it’s still better than the original ps4 controllers
An Xbox One controller has removable rumble packs, a Touch Bar, trigger locks, remappable paddles, 2 extra buttons on the side, and swappable faceplates? Got it.
@@randomfrankp Honestly, if you haven't tried one yet check out the Elite controller, it's quality.
The swappable face plates and a couple of extra buttons just don't seem worth the extra cost.
So what's with all the reports of dead spots in the sticks not a part of the PR pack?
0:53 that yellow almost blinded me
Rohitash Pradhan aye me to 😂
I think the only real issue at the moment is that this is coming out so late in the console's life cycle. If you have a PC I guess you can extend it's life but if you only play on PS4 this may not make too much sense, specially for the price. Solid product though.
Ps5 isn't coming out at least until 2020. Ps4 controllers still have plenty of life left in.
Very high likelihood that the Scuf Vantage will work on the PS5 when that does come out in probably 2020 or 2021. The DualShock 4 controller works on PS3 even when you plug it in. Not to mention backward comparability easier to do when the console is the new thing and the controller is the old
It’s gonna work on the ps5
I'm not saying it's a bad controller or that it's not worth the money, but with a new console about a year and a half away some people may not want to pay over $150 for a remote that will be replaced with a new one with possibly new features when the next gen console comes out.
I saved 400 dollars for this thank the randomfrankp heavens
Enjoy it man hope it does u well
Well you know the true saying....
A fool and their money are soon parted.
What are you gonna buy with it?
Thanks for the note on the compatibility for PC. Very interesting, will wait till they get that figured out before I try out a set.
PAID SHILL.
Honestly this looks like the perfect controller for every hand size. I love my Hyperkin Duke controller and my PDP Afterglow Xbox controller; but I will definitely pick this up when it goes on sale!
What do you need more than 1 controller for?
Woji the controller has extra features
It’s really not unfortunately. The offset thumb stick makes the left paddles super awkward to use. They changed the position of the thumb stick but left the paddles the same. As a result you have to hold your hand in a very awkward position to use the paddles. Also the paddles don’t always work, the remapping doesn’t work correctly, the control doesn’t turn on ps4, the control doesn’t work in blue tooth / wireless. The amount of problems at launch is insane. It is not worth a purchase. This isn’t an honest review.
Venom415 YOU WERE WRONG. It’s trash
Seems to be, still if it drops low enough (like under $100) id still give it a shot.
I got one. Honestly Battle Beavers feel better to me. I kept hitting the Sax buttons by accident so i took them off. The outer paddles are a little easier to reach than the inner paddles are. As far as comfort the battle beavers feel better in my hand than the Scuf vantage.
6:46. I actually disagree with you about the vibration in the Xbox One Elite controller. In the Xbox accessories app you could completely reduce the vibration down to 0%. So actually, both the Scuf Vantage and the elite controller have that functionality of disabling Rumble features, the Scuf Vantage completely taking them out, and the elite controller just disabling it.
When is it available to buy in the UK?
How many issues are you having with it? Dead zone on sticks unplayable
I bought this controller last week and its honestly one of the worst purchases I've ever made. Out of box had too many issues to deal with for its price tag, I talked to scuf directly and they were aware since day one. Please avoid the controller completely or buy the infinity for 4ps or astro C40. This controller was blatantly not finished and it can be seen in the product. I love your videos but please be honest or more in depth with some reviews to save viewers time and money.
From a lot of the reviews from people who actually spent their own money on this thing and not sponsored say there is multiple issues with this controller, the main and most important issue being the DEAD ZONE input from the analog sticks.
I wouldn't spend 10 bucks on a controller with a bad deadzone never mind 200 bucks.....
PR package = paid?!
how can you not do a follow up talking about the "quality" that they didn't put in to this..
Because he got paid to pretend he played with it for weeks lmao
Hell, if you don't like the color, pick up some paints for a model kit, and can recolor it however you want. The effect will likely be better if you're into modelling and have an airbrush, but a rattle can could do fine if you're careful not to get your coats too thick.
The controller is expensive but it's dope. I've had mine for a while now, I'm still in love. I'm curious what controllers are you guys using?
I’m sorry; but no gaming controller, is worth, between $150 - $190. 🤷♂️
That’s ridiculous....this company, is making, literally....200% profit per controller.
try 500 to a 1000 %
waiting on PC support and do they have a option for both analogs on the bottom if not I will get a Xbox Elite
yo frank, i really appreciate that you post that many videos lately!! keep it going
Didn’t he make a video bashing it not that long ago?
Deadzone issues
Randomly turns on and off
Turns off while wired even
Button mappings reset every time you turn it on and off
Sticks breaking in less than 2 weeks
Just a few very common issues.
This guy got paid very handsomely to lie
I bought this. Adjusted my trigger stops and every face button no longer worked. Every time I switched apps I had to disconnect then reconnect. Then after a week of use all 4 paddles stopped working. This was the vantage 2 btw, not the original.
OKAY now it is the best gaming controller since it got fixed - sorry for the shade I had to throw six days ago, you’re one of my favorite RUclipsrs
the internet just wouldn't be random without frank
So does he even mention that this is paid, its very obvious but I wonder if he tries to deny it
Does it still have the feature where it randomly breaks after 5 months of use?
Roughly 5 months later, is it worthwhile yet? Thinking abt it but considering waiting a few more months. Tempted but the issues are worrisome.
Is this a sponsored video because there are major problems with this controller and it’s def is not the best controller for PS4....
It is nice but you should tell about how you have to charge it if you get the wireless version. It is rather a pain as you have to have your console turned on in order to charge it and it can't be plugged in after the console is turned off or it causes it to turn back on even if you put it in rest mode. Other than the charging issues it has it seems like a nice controller.
As a traditional PC and Xbox gamer, this generation I've been wanting to switch to PS4 (allllll the exclusives) but I've been worried because of the controller differences. A controller like this really convinces me to switch over
Do the extra buttons only work as remapped standard buttons or are they actually extra buttons?
So I have to update it right out of the box ?
LOOK UP AIR BEAR he has an HONEST NON PAID review on this controller compared to these paid ones..who are paid to say nothing but "good stuff"
What about the polling rate? 125Hz or 1000Hz?
Where can I try one out before buying one?
If you order one do you get all that extra stuff?
When the controller is compatible with a PC can you show us
If the thumb sticks get used in the future can you change them???
To anyone reading in 2019. If you’re interested in this controller GO FOR IT. The dead zone issue was just a firmware problem that got patched. It’s pretty much perfect now.
I ordered my vantage controller last Thursday and supposedly it will ship 3 to 4 weeks “ due to high demand “ but will it actually ship 3 to 4 weeks after order ? because I know there is a lot of people order these bad boys
what about the Astro C40 TR ?
So for steam would it count as a PS4 controller or a Xbox controller? (If it's compatible with pc)
would love to see a long term use review someday. great vid again frank. :D thank you.
Can I use it now on pc?
Have you ever tried the Razer wolverine or raiju? I find it interesting that you say off the bat this is the best controller without trying any other on except for the terrible xb1 elite controller and a previous scuf.
How do I buy it? I live in Europe
Great deal. I'm going to buy 5 of them. To play with friends and (most important) to have a back-up in case I throw it against the wall when I'm frustrated. It is worth the money!
I love your channel so much and I thank you for reviewing and putting so much time into the channel
I am SO excited to buy this controller!
The deadzone is absolutely abysmal
How much is it? I can't buy it cuz I live in EU..
@ 3:00 frank mentioned something I cant unsee now LOL
Dude sold his soul for a free controller that will break in 6 weeks...
Clicks link to buy controller .... Only available in US and Canada!
WHY?!?!?
Is it wireless?
Way to lie to your viewers!!!! Reading off the Scuf PR script with out using it.
does it have gyro?
Where is the paid promotion notice?? Because half of the crap he said that's good about this controller is BS
That controller plus customization cost about the same a me getting a gtx 1050 and a normal ps4 controller
looks familiar... ah! it's the Xbox controller.
Hello There Not really. SCUF did that, and they said for “ergonomics”. Also, it feels nothing like an XBOX controller.
@@peqbox so... SCUF is saying, in implicit way, "DualShock isn't ergonomic, but the one of Xbox yes".
Please, it's a clear thing and if you are saying that'snt, it's because you are a Sony fanboy
Marco Fiorillo No not really, I play both. I’m implying the fact that just because it looks like one, doesn’t mean it feels like it which is the truth from people who DO have the controller.
Will It be developed in Europe?
You can’t say it’s the best controller you’ve ever used while unboxing. I’ve heard of a large failure rate with these including dead zones and it keeps forgetting your button assign preferences. Wait until they get through the startup woes before buying.
I had high hopes for this controller. The sticks responsiveness are terrible. Dead zone is much larger than stock, and turn speed/acceleration is nonlinear, that is, it does not correspond with how much you offset the stick. Once you reach the end of the dead zone, you will turn slowly, and as you gradually increase the amount of offset, you suddenly begin to turn more quickly. It makes aiming at your target extremely difficult, and even choosing a menu item with a cursor is very awkward. I’m not sure how you could’ve read it this controller so well. Your entire video looks like a professional he put out commercial from scuf, maybe that’s it.
I have only used mine in the wired mode and haven't had any issues do you use yours wired or wireless?
WiLL it come to Eu??
Do the S buttons work on fortnite
why not usb-c?
Do scuf controller sale on black Friday?
The only way to make the PS4 controller better than the rest is to make it an Xbox controller.
People have lost their mind. It's $200...
Can i buy this Controller in Germany?
Now I have the Razer Raiju, but when the new PS comes out I will change to Scuf
My Scuf Vantage controller abused me daily 30+ years ago..... It invited other scufs to join in... you could hear them vibrating down the hall and stairway. Due to this trauma, when I switched to xbox one X...I needed two... Thats right.. TWO elite controllers for my protection to make me feel safe..
I’m still reading a lot of bad reviews even after the firmware update. I ordered a controller from Aim Controllers as they have a lifetime warranty and stellar reviews.
I would stay away from scuf and look into other companies out there. But for my money you can’t beat the lifetime warranty from Aim.
Why not in europe? 😣
Too bad I can’t buy it in Australia. Price would be 300 here tho. Like I could buy a Xbox one with a game for that. I do like It tho. I must be the only person who holds the controller with middle finger on the triggers and pointer on shoulder buttons.
Can't buy in Australia 😥
how did you come up with your youtube logo and profile pic, i love it and would like to make one similar for mine
I see a few streamers advertising there scufs, I’m fine with the stock ones. These seem like a waste of money.
That D-Pad looks as rough as your standard 360/Switch controller. Anyone try fighting games with this controller? Can anyone KBD or B2 loops in Tekken with it?
Just Get a f.p.s dominator adapter and you get two extra paddles that's all you need and it cost around 39 dollars
the other downside apart from the price is the availability it is only available in the US and Canada
Extremely misleading. Praising a product that has obvious flaws (and should honestly be recalled) puts a bad taste in subscribers mouths if they purchase the controller. Next time preface with this being a paid promotion.
No an honest review. Just google all the issues with this controller. Returned mine absolute junk.
What mic is on the hyperx cloud alphas??
Personally, having used only this controller once... I prefer the Razer Wolverine Ultimate xbox one controller, but both great controllers!
I like it for the fact that it has the Xbox layout, which is what I prefer. The price point is what's getting me though.
Can you do a comparison of this and the new Razer Raiju Ultimate?
Reminds me of the pro controller
sunsbookishgamesx lemme fucc
If they would make a controller that was physically built like a DS4 but recognized as an xbox controller that would be fantastic.
The Xbox analog layout is way better
No it makes sense to have the D pad in the lower position when games call for quick clicks to switch weapons and items. Offset position is way way better. Sony late to the party
@@karamhawari3404 you've clearly never used a controller with the Xbox layout.
Having the D pad lower makes it easier to use the D pad with the left or right hand quickly. That is why games like F1 are much better to play with the Xbox controller if a wheel is not available. For me the offset sticks are not the biggest feature although I prefer them over the simple design. It's when you have to use the D pad with the Sony style controller is when you realize it is an inferior design. It's exactly why this featured controller now exists.
Until they make an off axis Dpad good I rather have the PS4 joystick layout, especially since joysticks are usually terrible with dead zones and other issues I rather just move with the Dpad and have the joystick function as some sort of item management. Or, you know, play any weapon switching FPS type game on a PC with better overall precision in general.
Yall ever hear of personal preference? Yall dumb af...smh
I know u might not care but I recently bought a mamba chroma wireless, huntsman elite and a razer firefly
Meh razer fanboi??
I care bro
Sorry for your loss
RoseWolfz Prime I’ve had my cynosure chroma and lancehead TE for a year and it is fine!
Well... I was dying to know