Adding the Lightning element makes so much sense for Amatsu (even if Frontier did it first) because it makes sense, Amatsu controls the STORMS, not just a bunch of water
@@maacll4343 That's the diluted dragon element. The pure dragon element only seen in Frontier G rank Fatalis is literally magic capable of creating portals.
So as a note. Kagero was never some "Random-ass dude who runs the lottery". Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who actually reads the dialogue in the game lol. This buildup towards Kagero going out in that cutscene was actually building up over-time. He's made mention of the monster who destroyed his city, a few times throughout the game. You can even chit-chat with him and other NPCs throughout your progression of the game for different bits of dialogue, sometimes revealing hidden lore behind each character. Kagero mentions many times especially closer to late game that he knows the pain of losing your home and didn't want it to happen again. He vowed to do everything he could for Kamura as his new home. But yes it was an awesome buildup to an awesome end to Kagero's tale of vengeance. It was also a nice bonding moment between the Master and Pupil of Kamura.
if youre wondering how Utsushi got a zinorger to fellow him he uses a Stinkmink endemic life out of the game its in game consistently you can see it because of the white smoke around him i like this attention to detail
The first time i saw that part i missed that. But the second time i saw utsushi, i noticed white smoke glittering around him. That's when i realised he used a stinkmink. I'm glad too that the team put that in.
Utsushi leaves the fight for a while before the Zinogre appears So i'd assume he runs off to find it somewhere nearby. Still incredibly plot convenient but at least that way he doesn't just manifest it out of nowhere
If you look at him closely you can see an aura of a stinkmink on him, an ecological small monster that when used causes monsters you run past to follow you, so makes more sense that he left and saw one and then used that to lure it. Also is worth noting that Apex Zinogre is one of the monsters possible to fight in the arena so if you assume all quests are accurate then apex Zinogre is active in the area regularly
Apex monsters seems to like the infernal springs. Seeing an ED invading their territory will surely trigger them. Also Zinogres already have a sort of rivalry with Amatsu. So Apex zinogre having a turf war with Amatsu is perfectly fine
I've done this hunt solo multiple times, and it seems like if you don't have Utsushi as a follower, the monster that comes in will be Valstrax, and if you do bring Utsushi, you'll see Apex Zinogre, I like that kind of detail
With how high up amatsu likes to hang out (hiding among the clouds), it kinda makes sense that it has some beef with valstrax, which it likely runs into fairly often.
@@morganpriest7726 Valstrax tend to live near the ruined pinnacle, so that's possible Amatsu could also meet Narwa, Ibushi, and even the god of heaven, Shantien The sky is quite crowded than I expect
This somehow has become my favorite fight, sure it doesn't reach the high intensity of walls like Alatreon and Fatalis, BUT The dramatic environment with the changing weather and color palette, the cinematic intro, and the dynamic super attacks that pull you high into the air and force you to evade smartly with the wirebug. Heck, the reuse of old school sound effects and the peaceful ending with the rising sun breaking through the clouds of the storm that just passed. Just incredible...
I still like the spectacle of safi ala and fatalis more than amatsu. May be its because rise pallet color thingy. If the wind is like world's color palette it might be more breathtaking. But i would say they do justice on spectacle side but its not super high scale like safi nuke or fatalis iceborne nuke where you had to hide. I kinda wish they will actually put may be tsunami that we had to run to inside a tunnel or something to enter a phase 2. Entering new area of this area or opening a new part of the spring
I regret not being able to appreciate the fight's ending for the first time because of the slow-mo finisher mod I am using, since it disables the scripted camera angles. I only found out about that after watching this video.
I agree with the part you said about the passion the devs had when designing this fight. From the sfx to apex zinogre cameo to the recreation of quest clear, you can literally feel the love they have for the franchise and monsters. It's so nice to see devs have this much passion put into their work, I can't wait to see what director Suzuki's team have for us in the future
Dalamadur would be difficult I think without making it heavily scripted (ironically, it only works in 4U BECAUSE of the limitations; in modern MonHun they wouldn't be able to hide the rest of his body or the rest of the peak you'd be fighting him on), but Jhen I think could be done for sure and made even more epic.
If there's anything this fight has taught me, it's not to listen to the Hunting community anymore. No matter what, some people will never be happy. I think Amatsu rocks and that's all that matters.
Unfortunately the hunting community has become incredibly b*tchy since Iceborne. Not sure what happened, but it’s been little more than complaining flooding any monster hunter comment section on socials. It’s a bummer, I think Rise/Sunbreak are great but the internet would have you think it’s the worst monster hunter. Hopefully MH6 will unite the fan base again, but my opinion of the community is probably going to remain low.
@@solomon9655 it's because of all the newcomers from World & Iceborne. They're upset about the fact that it wasn't on PS4 for a while, & that it doesn't have the graphical fidelity of World. I enjoyed every second of World & Iceborne, & I'm very happy that it gave Monster Hunter the recognition it deserved, but I can't forgive the divide it's put the community through because of it. There's no more sense of comraderie like there was before. People just join mid hunt, dogpile the monster & leave. There's no engagement anymore.
Yes, a much better fight than Fatalis, many new attacks, no bullshit mechanic like dps check, just a hard fight They really cooked Amatsu well for Sunbreak
Yes, a much better fight than Fatalis². Despite having the biggest defect of Rise/Sunbreak, which is that every new attack is an AOE, in his case at least it makes sense AND he has a very fair hitbox. It's not like other monsters in Rise where every attack the monster's entire body becomes a full damage hitbox. Also, unlike Fatalis, Amatsu doesn't have ridiculous damage where even with 1000 defense, every attack will take more than half of your HP. And of course, he doesn't look like a tigrex in terms of speed. Another defect that Fatalis had in World: Extremely fast and absurd damage, no matter if you player maximized everything you could in terms of defense and attack. And of course, along with the new update came 8 more levels of armor defense improvements.
Also, another plus point of this fight. When Amatsu goes to unleash that huge hurricane, it's just like the original. Where you have a huge amount of time to risk and try to stop him. It's a huge flaw that exists in Valstrax in Rise, where unlike his original fight in GU, in Rise when he goes to "cool the engine", you only have 2-3 seconds to try to stop it. Something absurd to demand from the player. It's a good thing they didn't apply that logic to Amatsu's fight.
@@Suirioujin Actually it was quite easy. The fight is cool and all, no doubt. But it's easy. For example, Valstrax base Rise. It was a fight I need to pay attention because it was punitive. One wrong dash could led me to a cart. For amatsu.. I didn't even know what was happening. I was justing beating it up until it was dead. And I think it was kind lazy repeating the same Narwa//Turf War gimmick. It has happened in Base rise, why do we need the same thing to happen on two different fights from the same game with two wind monsters/wind serpent skeletons? About Fatalis, there is no DPS check. It has phases, as amatsu have. HP tresholds where he would do certain mechanics. One of amatsu big attacks works the same. But it doesn't have the same impact.... It took me and my friends 14 hours to defeat our first Fatalis. And we were getting ready to it since it was announced. We weren't dying for the fire or anything like that: his regular attacks and AI were just so damn good we couldn't handle it, so we needed to learn. After we learned how to counter Fatalis, how the mechanics of the map worked and how we should hunt it, we finally accomplished the task: Killing the legend. Amatsu was different. I was playing rise like, 3 F. Rajang Hunts per week, just to farm my quirio materials. Neither of my friends had touched the game in more than 1 month. Neither of them farmed the augments for armor or weapons. There was even one of them that the last time he played was september 2022. And none of it matter. We just went there and killed Amatsu first try, under 10 minutes. I dunno... I really liked the fight, but it was more like a breeze, not a storm. I think that if I farmed for hundred of hours preparing for what was coming (since amatsu is being teased for quite some time) all my effort should be equivalent to the monster fight. Scorned Magnamalo is a fun fight. Valstrax or even Risen Valstrax is a fun fight. Risen Kushala, fun fight... Amatsu? A cinematic and beautiful fight. Not a fun one. Edit: I play Bow. So I don't have a shield to withstand all attacks. Edit 2: All the touches with old carve sound, or the reference moves from old amatsu were very cool. When I heard the carving sound I almost choke because I couldn't believe. I just wish the fight would be this cool. Neither of my friends wants do play again and all I have to do is solo it until Malzeno and, eventually, next MH comes out.
@@MamboJangoZ I said hard because I saw many people saying it was a hard quest with a "quest failed" picture, I would say fair challenge Personaly I didn't struggle that much, I fought it 4 times, cart 1 time every time Yeah risen Valstrax was much harder, i failed the quest 4 times About the turf war, I liked it, because it's a reference to MH3rd, where Amatsu scared many Zinogres to run away from the mountain they usually live in I also struggled a lot with Fatalis, but now I tried to unsuccessfuly solo it, all I see is a shitty dps check : impossible to solo it if both horns aren't broken Even with armor over 1000 defense ans good fire and dragon res, ANY attack deals 90% of your health, and Hen enraged any fire attack and you're one-shot, and I really hate it
Amatsu has been my favorite monster ever since I started with P3rd. I'm so glad that they did it so well. Hearing the roar and the themes even made me a bit emotional. The only criticism I have is the intruding monster in the quest. The Zinogre was nice, but it should have stayed as a one-time thing.
I saw someone complain that this hunt was bland, and I just couldn’t even fathom that opinion. Like saying you didn’t like the hunt is fine, but it feels just objectively wrong to call it bland. This hunt felt like it was constantly evolving and I couldn’t predict what sort of obstacle it had in store for me next. And I’m learning new mechanics of the attacks and installations on the maps with each hunt of Amatsu I do. There’s a lot to digest with this hunt.
>shoot ball >Shoot ball >Dive across >Dive across again >Spiny tornado >X2 >Shoot ball again >And again >Big whirlwind >Electro wheel >Electro wheel X2 >Super move >Repeat from step 1 It was very repetitive until usogi. I can understand calling it bland. However I also dislike this monster. I don't enjoy monsters that stay floating the entire hunt and is Almost impossible to hit and build combos. >Dodge >Dodge >Dodge >Hit 4 times >Dodge x4 >Hit a few more times >rinse and Repeat He is easy to dodge and very difficult to land hits. Not an enjoyable fight imo. Don't get me wrong. I like the story behind it and the call back to the prior games, I just don't find him enjoyable
As a Player that has been playing monster hunter within 4 years I have to say that I'm very happy they added amatsu after a long time even though I've never had access to the older games I studied and watch many videos about this majestic beast and how it keeps at it's part within life but what I'm trying to say is that I LOVE IT
The fact they were able to make us say : this might be my new number monster/elder/fight. After only 1 hunt... This really is one of the best monster remakes in monster hunter. And the fact they made so many references to the old games: The old horn when starting the quest The old item pick up sound. And of course they did not change his theme. And the weather sequence! There's so much love put into this! I absolutely love this monster and I gladly except it into my top 10. Anyone else? And then theres risen shagaru : Frenzy, frenzy everywhere
For me, Amatsu is my favorite boss fight overall. Sunbreak was my first time fighting him, and I was mesmerized the entire time. When I triple carted to the Looming Calamity, I wasn't mad, I was laughing oddly enough. Amatsu is my new favorite elder dragon, sorry Shara.
The whole closing the book on the past destruction felt epic, not sure how you missed that kagero had his home destroyed by it lol but that's how it sounded
I love how they put in the stinkmink aura around Utsushi when he appears. He literally ran around, grabbed a stinkmink, then went on a long as journey to find the most powerful creature he could (why was an Apex Zinogre just loitering around?) and then booked it back towards the fight while being chased by it. Even better is that you can replay this sequence by having Utsushi as a follower, and he'll do this every single time. It's more damage than if you don't bring followers, and get CG Valstrax instead.
About the Heaven-sent skill from Amatsu's set, it works so well with gunlances because when it's active, it not only reloads shells; it reloads the stake as well. On top of that, the skill also replenishes sharpness by half the amount of when you use whetstones _whenever you switch scrolls_! Combine that with the jump distance you can get when switching scrolls, and ability to block damages without flinching, gunlance users are basically self-sustaining when dealing with large monsters. The fight itself... welp, it's fun when you can catch up with its AoE shenanigans and the fact that it tends to float around for some time; some weapons may have a hard time with it, particularly SnS (a friend of mine couldn't connect most of his attacks when soloing Amatsu). Then again, it's still doable. Overall, a neat hunt with good memorable moments for me.
To be fair, Utsushi HAS been practicing his Zinogre roar impressions. Pair that with the stinkmink cloud you see him covered in during the cutscene and yeah, I guess he's just THAT good at calling his favorite good boy to his side in a pinch.
From a neutral point of view, Gaismagorm was a more impressive spectacle for me, Amatsu just picked me up more because all the memories played in the background. But Amatsu definitely didn't surpass Fatalis for me, I still found the fight against Fatalis more cinematically spectacular and the fight more impressive.
Not a wall like a Alatreon or Fatalis but that’s okay . Why is it okay ? It’s okay because Amatsu isn’t a black dragon . Sunbreak was a great title and Amatsu was a great final boss to send this game off.
@@jag9872 nah it is a bit disappointed but I try to enjoy Sunbreak for what it’s given us you know . I would really like to know the thought process behind the devs not giving us a black dragon with this title tho.
Why would we need another black dragon? Having a black dragon thematically makes no sense considering the whole Japanese ascetic Kamura and Rise as a whole got going on also the black dragons are supposed to be a special thing in MH and constantly throwing them as a finale will just get old and I know you lot would eventually just start complaining if it's always some kind of black dragon.
Easily the best fight in the entire game. I love its attacks which locks you in place (unless you wire evade) which look straight from Final Fantasy where a summon pulls you into its domain and beat you up from there. The lightning-infused attacks are fantastic. Music is amazing, not only Amatsu's theme but even the tiny detail when wyvern-ride theme didn't replace Zinogre's is highly appreciated. The only gripe I have with the whole thing is Amatsu didn't have its own arena. I thought we will transfer to the peak of Infernal Springs which is actually the Sacred Pinnacle. Anyways, everything else is beautiful, the subtle change in SFX, even Amatsu flying beside the camp is fascinating. Amatsu is like Raiden from MGS4: the rain transformed
I think they made it in the spring because it's meant to be the village of Kagero's backstory? I would also have preferred the Pinnacle, but if that's the case it kinda makes more sense for it to be here I guess. The Mountain Range is 99,99999% the same so it doesn't break the lore, wich is what matters the most to me lmao. Edit: also Amatsu being in the camp is another refence to P3rd
@@yurei4414 at least something similar to the Pinnacle, idk i just wanted Amatsu to have its own unique arena. But hey we still got the sunrise.. I remember that it's visible from the camp, but to hover that close? Damn that's epic
A few months on, and while Heaven-Sent may not be absolutely meta, it is the comfiest of comfort skills. Having sharpness management and stamina management wrapped into a single skill, plus the fact that the respective armor pieces that bear the skill have plenty of 4-slots to work with, makes the Amatsu chest, arms and legs absolutely worth making - even worth making multiples of for different sets! I have two sets of the Heaven-Sent pieces - one each having a rank of Dragon Conversion or Furious for elemental damage, and one with Buildup Boost for status.
I love how insane the fight was and the I hope we can mount more Apexes. It's funny that it needs 2 people to mount the thing and maybe maybe maybe they can let us do that on other hunts too?
Cool detail with utsushi summoning the zinogre, he has the same particles that the player has when they use the minx that attracts monsters to you when used, so that's how he does it
If you do not know what make sense.. If you do go to a free investigation map.. You can actually lure/bait a monster to come after you to fight with another monster. You can use dung bombs to make them move from different places to different places.
Dual blade main when TU5 come : YESSSSSSSSS!! Frenzied bloodlust is super good for db but.... Heavenly sent IS super good too. Not only that... DB also has an exclusive rampage decor which is insanely good. A fitting update for a cool weapon. (I am not DB main)
I loved Amatsu before, and now, bam, they just consolidated the old fight into the first phase and added to it, then gave us a kickass phase 2 too. And it's also incredibly fair, though I triple carted first try, I felt it was my own fault and I could've made better decisions. Spectacular, frenetic but also evenly tempoed, lots of hard, clear decisions to make. Also, no proof! It just goes back to the music! The storm doesn't end until the fight does. Also I got an Apex Zinogre when I brought back Utsushi, which is also cool! Risen Shagaru is also an incredible fight, and the perfect end to Gore Magala as a fight. It's the definitive, final boss of the Magalas, and doesn't betray what you've learned in your journey across fighting them, but does build on it in ways you have to learn. I got chip damage for days through my Lance, and basically spent half my fight kegstanding first aid med+s, but it was good old Shaggy Maggy, dialled up to 11. Seriously think Anomaly Raggy is gonna thrash me harder than the 140s ever would, too.
Amatsumagatsuchi Kagerou doesn't just randomly go for the amatsu They have beef The whole backstory of him and tea girl was the reason fans predicted amatsu
With how powerful our hunter got due to anomaly crafting and everything else… Amatsu fight is really cool, but i hope they drop the hazard level one with bigger health pool.
my favorite part is against most of the roster, the wirebug feels like an advantage that gives you an edge. against Amatsu, its not a weapon you use to trump it, its a requirement to even have a chance at surviving.
it is because utushi can mimic monster call and once had the whole village pull up to his place because they thought it was a jinouga but naw it was just utushi
Can anyone tell me how I get the quest I’m on ps5 and mr98 didn’t even get any quest for this boss I did every quest so far pushing to100 but what I read in wiki that when u reach mr 10 u will unlocked the ques automatically but nothing!
Amatsu design and moveset are okay. it's just too easy, first try, no cart, without even trying, (I messed around with the arena mechanics) it's anticlimatic! Fighting Amatsu is like fighting flying Royal Ludroth spitting storm. On the other hand Risen Shagaru is just amazing. I believe upcoming Malzeno will be completely cure my dissapointment to Amatsu.
great video but you clearly have not played Generations Ultimate because lao shan lung is a really good fight in GU (especially his hazard version) and ahtal ka's fight is WAY more cinematic than amatsu's fight
Il be honest i was one of the people totally disappointed and still is disappointed with the direction of how they did sunbreaks updates and il say this amatsu’s fight was amazing everything about ithas become my favorite fight ever it was a good challenge cinematic asf and im not dissatisfied whatsoever with this update i thought it was going to be the same boring fight but not at all the game give u alot to do which is good but im still at AR 80 i doubt il ever get to 300 unfortunately😅
The only thing I think they could’ve done to make this thing god tier is to make it larger in rise it looks to small Also why am I always Given mantle of amastu even in GU I always get a mantle
The fight is definitely a glow up from past iterations, but dang I wish they chilled with the over reliance on wire bugs in order to escape certain attacks and the punishment of having none
Right now I'm stuck fighting him.. I've always found Amatsu annoying. During GU he made me drop the game cus he's such a bore to fight. Too much health, always running away and when it actually does stay in place, half the time it's too high above to land combos on it. Shame because I love it's design.
man.. i feel about the amatsu fight the same way i feel about rise... confused like i really do like it but at the same time i have muched preferred the older MH games wish if amatsu was harder like people really hyped me up saying its just a bit under the power of a black dragon and when i hear "black dragon" i know it will be a super intense and fun fight amatsu was just a fun fight without intensity and IMO intensity enhances the fight by a lot like MHR and amatsu imo could have been so much better if they had done some things in a different way they are so close to being amazing but they are just good and remember people have different tastes some people HATE rise others LOVE rise im in the middle ground and imo all monster hunter games are good some better than others
Meh, I think the old amatsu is better. He was a little boring before, but now he is both boring and kinda annoying. They buffed his attack frequency and mobility, as such a large dragon who's also constantly airborne, fighting him with Lance or hammer is painful because every movement he made repositions him over great distances. You are either chasing him down to get a few hits in or running away from his aoe attacks. (Or if you use a ranged weapon then he's just boring) His new ultimate attacks were pretty interesting when you first saw them, but once you know how to deal with them they start to get annoying really fast. You know that they don't pose any meaningful threat but you still gotta relentlessly wiredash and watch them play out.
The most cinematic is still fatalis. Amatsu is awesome in sunbreak but he deserved better, wirebug and rise hunter agility and ability made him so easy
Adding the Lightning element makes so much sense for Amatsu (even if Frontier did it first) because it makes sense, Amatsu controls the STORMS, not just a bunch of water
Didn't frontier do dragon element?
@@RustyhairedAlp9575 Yes.
@@RustyhairedAlp9575 Tbf, dragon ele in MH is basically just red lightning
@@maacll4343 red smokes/fire too
@@maacll4343 That's the diluted dragon element. The pure dragon element only seen in Frontier G rank Fatalis is literally magic capable of creating portals.
So as a note. Kagero was never some "Random-ass dude who runs the lottery". Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who actually reads the dialogue in the game lol.
This buildup towards Kagero going out in that cutscene was actually building up over-time. He's made mention of the monster who destroyed his city, a few times throughout the game. You can even chit-chat with him and other NPCs throughout your progression of the game for different bits of dialogue, sometimes revealing hidden lore behind each character. Kagero mentions many times especially closer to late game that he knows the pain of losing your home and didn't want it to happen again. He vowed to do everything he could for Kamura as his new home.
But yes it was an awesome buildup to an awesome end to Kagero's tale of vengeance. It was also a nice bonding moment between the Master and Pupil of Kamura.
if youre wondering how Utsushi got a zinorger to fellow him he uses a Stinkmink endemic life out of the game its in game consistently you can see it because of the white smoke around him i like this attention to detail
The first time i saw that part i missed that. But the second time i saw utsushi, i noticed white smoke glittering around him. That's when i realised he used a stinkmink. I'm glad too that the team put that in.
Weren't apexes immune to that? Or am I mistaking them with traps?
I saw that too but not on the first hunt
@@marcoasturias8520 I actually dont know
Edit I search it up its not immune to it
Zinorger
Utsushi uses a stinkmink you can see the puff cloud around him when he lands to get the Zinogre to follow him
Utsushi leaves the fight for a while before the Zinogre appears
So i'd assume he runs off to find it somewhere nearby. Still incredibly plot convenient but at least that way he doesn't just manifest it out of nowhere
It's my headcanon that he asks his rider buddy to borrow their Thunderlord Zinogre monstie
And yes, I know that Stories isn't canon
Zinogre and amatsu are like rivals look at the old mh portable3d
If you look at him closely you can see an aura of a stinkmink on him, an ecological small monster that when used causes monsters you run past to follow you, so makes more sense that he left and saw one and then used that to lure it. Also is worth noting that Apex Zinogre is one of the monsters possible to fight in the arena so if you assume all quests are accurate then apex Zinogre is active in the area regularly
Utsushi can mimic monster's roar
Apex monsters seems to like the infernal springs. Seeing an ED invading their territory will surely trigger them. Also Zinogres already have a sort of rivalry with Amatsu. So Apex zinogre having a turf war with Amatsu is perfectly fine
I've done this hunt solo multiple times, and it seems like if you don't have Utsushi as a follower, the monster that comes in will be Valstrax, and if you do bring Utsushi, you'll see Apex Zinogre, I like that kind of detail
It also makes sense because Utsushi's armour being Zinogre themed.
For the reason Valstrax is shown, is that in the MHGU's real person event, Valstrax was set up to be the rival to Amatsu
With how high up amatsu likes to hang out (hiding among the clouds), it kinda makes sense that it has some beef with valstrax, which it likely runs into fairly often.
@@morganpriest7726 Valstrax tend to live near the ruined pinnacle, so that's possible
Amatsu could also meet Narwa, Ibushi, and even the god of heaven, Shantien
The sky is quite crowded than I expect
@@陳嘉宇-y4q Imagine what the so-called "King of the Skies" feels when he happens to see them.
@@ZAH33D What's a king to a god
@@陳嘉宇-y4q whats a god to a nonbeliever
This somehow has become my favorite fight, sure it doesn't reach the high intensity of walls like Alatreon and Fatalis, BUT
The dramatic environment with the changing weather and color palette, the cinematic intro, and the dynamic super attacks that pull you high into the air and force you to evade smartly with the wirebug.
Heck, the reuse of old school sound effects and the peaceful ending with the rising sun breaking through the clouds of the storm that just passed.
Just incredible...
I still like the spectacle of safi ala and fatalis more than amatsu.
May be its because rise pallet color thingy. If the wind is like world's color palette it might be more breathtaking. But i would say they do justice on spectacle side but its not super high scale like safi nuke or fatalis iceborne nuke where you had to hide.
I kinda wish they will actually put may be tsunami that we had to run to inside a tunnel or something to enter a phase 2. Entering new area of this area or opening a new part of the spring
I wished we could avoid the Ultimate attack by hiding etc. And not flying up high just because i would like to look at it up close
I regret not being able to appreciate the fight's ending for the first time because of the slow-mo finisher mod I am using, since it disables the scripted camera angles. I only found out about that after watching this video.
When zinogre appeared I had a giant smile on my face. Cool to see that to ride an Apex both your hunter and Utsushi must control it at the same time.
I agree with the part you said about the passion the devs had when designing this fight. From the sfx to apex zinogre cameo to the recreation of quest clear, you can literally feel the love they have for the franchise and monsters. It's so nice to see devs have this much passion put into their work, I can't wait to see what director Suzuki's team have for us in the future
Imagine how MAGNIFICENT a Jhen Mohran or a Dalamadur fight would look like in modern MonHun games....holy shit.
For real, Shen Gaoren or Yama tsukami would be awesome too.
@@marcocarraresi3755 I’d definitely like to see Shen come back at some point.
Dalamadur would be difficult I think without making it heavily scripted (ironically, it only works in 4U BECAUSE of the limitations; in modern MonHun they wouldn't be able to hide the rest of his body or the rest of the peak you'd be fighting him on), but Jhen I think could be done for sure and made even more epic.
darren spawning next to ship in g-rank phase 2
If there's anything this fight has taught me, it's not to listen to the Hunting community anymore. No matter what, some people will never be happy. I think Amatsu rocks and that's all that matters.
Pretty much
Unfortunately the hunting community has become incredibly b*tchy since Iceborne. Not sure what happened, but it’s been little more than complaining flooding any monster hunter comment section on socials. It’s a bummer, I think Rise/Sunbreak are great but the internet would have you think it’s the worst monster hunter. Hopefully MH6 will unite the fan base again, but my opinion of the community is probably going to remain low.
@@solomon9655 bitchy because they dont get World 2 in 2 years after iceborne 🤣
@@solomon9655 it's because of all the newcomers from World & Iceborne. They're upset about the fact that it wasn't on PS4 for a while, & that it doesn't have the graphical fidelity of World.
I enjoyed every second of World & Iceborne, & I'm very happy that it gave Monster Hunter the recognition it deserved, but I can't forgive the divide it's put the community through because of it. There's no more sense of comraderie like there was before. People just join mid hunt, dogpile the monster & leave. There's no engagement anymore.
Yeah pretty much.
Do you guys like the Amatsu changes in Sunbreak? I think he might have become my new favorite Elder Dragon!
Yes, a much better fight than Fatalis, many new attacks, no bullshit mechanic like dps check, just a hard fight
They really cooked Amatsu well for Sunbreak
Yes, a much better fight than Fatalis².
Despite having the biggest defect of Rise/Sunbreak, which is that every new attack is an AOE, in his case at least it makes sense AND he has a very fair hitbox. It's not like other monsters in Rise where every attack the monster's entire body becomes a full damage hitbox.
Also, unlike Fatalis, Amatsu doesn't have ridiculous damage where even with 1000 defense, every attack will take more than half of your HP. And of course, he doesn't look like a tigrex in terms of speed. Another defect that Fatalis had in World: Extremely fast and absurd damage, no matter if you player maximized everything you could in terms of defense and attack.
And of course, along with the new update came 8 more levels of armor defense improvements.
Also, another plus point of this fight. When Amatsu goes to unleash that huge hurricane, it's just like the original. Where you have a huge amount of time to risk and try to stop him.
It's a huge flaw that exists in Valstrax in Rise, where unlike his original fight in GU, in Rise when he goes to "cool the engine", you only have 2-3 seconds to try to stop it.
Something absurd to demand from the player. It's a good thing they didn't apply that logic to Amatsu's fight.
@@Suirioujin Actually it was quite easy. The fight is cool and all, no doubt. But it's easy. For example, Valstrax base Rise. It was a fight I need to pay attention because it was punitive. One wrong dash could led me to a cart.
For amatsu.. I didn't even know what was happening. I was justing beating it up until it was dead. And I think it was kind lazy repeating the same Narwa//Turf War gimmick. It has happened in Base rise, why do we need the same thing to happen on two different fights from the same game with two wind monsters/wind serpent skeletons?
About Fatalis, there is no DPS check. It has phases, as amatsu have. HP tresholds where he would do certain mechanics. One of amatsu big attacks works the same. But it doesn't have the same impact....
It took me and my friends 14 hours to defeat our first Fatalis. And we were getting ready to it since it was announced. We weren't dying for the fire or anything like that: his regular attacks and AI were just so damn good we couldn't handle it, so we needed to learn. After we learned how to counter Fatalis, how the mechanics of the map worked and how we should hunt it, we finally accomplished the task: Killing the legend.
Amatsu was different. I was playing rise like, 3 F. Rajang Hunts per week, just to farm my quirio materials. Neither of my friends had touched the game in more than 1 month. Neither of them farmed the augments for armor or weapons. There was even one of them that the last time he played was september 2022. And none of it matter. We just went there and killed Amatsu first try, under 10 minutes.
I dunno... I really liked the fight, but it was more like a breeze, not a storm.
I think that if I farmed for hundred of hours preparing for what was coming (since amatsu is being teased for quite some time) all my effort should be equivalent to the monster fight. Scorned Magnamalo is a fun fight. Valstrax or even Risen Valstrax is a fun fight. Risen Kushala, fun fight... Amatsu? A cinematic and beautiful fight. Not a fun one.
Edit: I play Bow. So I don't have a shield to withstand all attacks.
Edit 2: All the touches with old carve sound, or the reference moves from old amatsu were very cool. When I heard the carving sound I almost choke because I couldn't believe. I just wish the fight would be this cool. Neither of my friends wants do play again and all I have to do is solo it until Malzeno and, eventually, next MH comes out.
@@MamboJangoZ I said hard because I saw many people saying it was a hard quest with a "quest failed" picture, I would say fair challenge
Personaly I didn't struggle that much, I fought it 4 times, cart 1 time every time
Yeah risen Valstrax was much harder, i failed the quest 4 times
About the turf war, I liked it, because it's a reference to MH3rd, where Amatsu scared many Zinogres to run away from the mountain they usually live in
I also struggled a lot with Fatalis, but now I tried to unsuccessfuly solo it, all I see is a shitty dps check : impossible to solo it if both horns aren't broken
Even with armor over 1000 defense ans good fire and dragon res, ANY attack deals 90% of your health, and Hen enraged any fire attack and you're one-shot, and I really hate it
Amatsu has been my favorite monster ever since I started with P3rd. I'm so glad that they did it so well. Hearing the roar and the themes even made me a bit emotional. The only criticism I have is the intruding monster in the quest. The Zinogre was nice, but it should have stayed as a one-time thing.
... what do you mean a "one-time thing?" It only happens once.
@@CaptainCFalcon The intruding monster, duh.
@@ArcticWolfGod fun fact if you get utsushi as a follower he will grab zinogre AGAIN
the amatsu fight was amazing. I absolutely loved how cinematic it was, it really felt like I was fighting a god of storms. 10/10 fr.
I saw someone complain that this hunt was bland, and I just couldn’t even fathom that opinion. Like saying you didn’t like the hunt is fine, but it feels just objectively wrong to call it bland. This hunt felt like it was constantly evolving and I couldn’t predict what sort of obstacle it had in store for me next. And I’m learning new mechanics of the attacks and installations on the maps with each hunt of Amatsu I do. There’s a lot to digest with this hunt.
>shoot ball
>Shoot ball
>Dive across
>Dive across again
>Spiny tornado
>X2
>Shoot ball again
>And again
>Big whirlwind
>Electro wheel
>Electro wheel X2
>Super move
>Repeat from step 1
It was very repetitive until usogi. I can understand calling it bland. However I also dislike this monster. I don't enjoy monsters that stay floating the entire hunt and is Almost impossible to hit and build combos.
>Dodge
>Dodge
>Dodge
>Hit 4 times
>Dodge x4
>Hit a few more times
>rinse and Repeat
He is easy to dodge and very difficult to land hits. Not an enjoyable fight imo.
Don't get me wrong. I like the story behind it and the call back to the prior games, I just don't find him enjoyable
@@ninjalawzowhat weapon you use? Obviously not bad fight unlike World kushala
@@ninjalawzo you can literally say this about any monster, your just simplifying their moveset.
It's an ok hunt, but I pretty much struggled more to land hits rather than looking out for it's attacks.
@@ninjalawzo Fatalis can be dumbed down to just fire breath and stronger fire breath too, so what's your point
As a Player that has been playing monster hunter within 4 years I have to say that I'm very happy they added amatsu after a long time even though I've never had access to the older games I studied and watch many videos about this majestic beast and how it keeps at it's part within life but what I'm trying to say is that I LOVE IT
The fact they were able to make us say : this might be my new number monster/elder/fight.
After only 1 hunt...
This really is one of the best monster remakes in monster hunter. And the fact they made so many references to the old games:
The old horn when starting the quest
The old item pick up sound.
And of course they did not change his theme.
And the weather sequence!
There's so much love put into this!
I absolutely love this monster and I gladly except it into my top 10.
Anyone else?
And then theres risen shagaru :
Frenzy, frenzy everywhere
For me, Amatsu is my favorite boss fight overall. Sunbreak was my first time fighting him, and I was mesmerized the entire time. When I triple carted to the Looming Calamity, I wasn't mad, I was laughing oddly enough.
Amatsu is my new favorite elder dragon, sorry Shara.
The whole closing the book on the past destruction felt epic, not sure how you missed that kagero had his home destroyed by it lol but that's how it sounded
I didn't miss it, I just wasn't too compelled by it but it's a good effort in making characters feel more relevant and fleshed out.
I love how they put in the stinkmink aura around Utsushi when he appears.
He literally ran around, grabbed a stinkmink, then went on a long as journey to find the most powerful creature he could (why was an Apex Zinogre just loitering around?) and then booked it back towards the fight while being chased by it.
Even better is that you can replay this sequence by having Utsushi as a follower, and he'll do this every single time. It's more damage than if you don't bring followers, and get CG Valstrax instead.
Cooking a stake even has the old song playing, I love that
4:35 To answer your question of how Utsushi summoned the Apex Zinogre, it's clear that he used a Stinkmink's odor to lure the Zinogre to Amatsu.
About the Heaven-sent skill from Amatsu's set, it works so well with gunlances because when it's active, it not only reloads shells; it reloads the stake as well. On top of that, the skill also replenishes sharpness by half the amount of when you use whetstones _whenever you switch scrolls_!
Combine that with the jump distance you can get when switching scrolls, and ability to block damages without flinching, gunlance users are basically self-sustaining when dealing with large monsters.
The fight itself... welp, it's fun when you can catch up with its AoE shenanigans and the fact that it tends to float around for some time; some weapons may have a hard time with it, particularly SnS (a friend of mine couldn't connect most of his attacks when soloing Amatsu). Then again, it's still doable.
Overall, a neat hunt with good memorable moments for me.
Fun fact; repeating the Amatsu hunt with Utsushi makes an Apex Zinogre join the hunt, while everyone else get CGV
To be fair, Utsushi HAS been practicing his Zinogre roar impressions. Pair that with the stinkmink cloud you see him covered in during the cutscene and yeah, I guess he's just THAT good at calling his favorite good boy to his side in a pinch.
From a neutral point of view, Gaismagorm was a more impressive spectacle for me, Amatsu just picked me up more because all the memories played in the background. But Amatsu definitely didn't surpass Fatalis for me, I still found the fight against Fatalis more cinematically spectacular and the fight more impressive.
You can't compare a black dragon to my cabbage boy lol
Fatalis is literally judgement. Amatsu? He just there
@@Planag7 boy, stf . U.
@@Planag7I don't really see what are you trying to say.
Not a wall like a Alatreon or Fatalis but that’s okay . Why is it okay ? It’s okay because Amatsu isn’t a black dragon . Sunbreak was a great title and Amatsu was a great final boss to send this game off.
Sucks to know that RiseBreak probably isn’t getting a Black Dragon though.
@@jag9872 nah it is a bit disappointed but I try to enjoy Sunbreak for what it’s given us you know . I would really like to know the thought process behind the devs not giving us a black dragon with this title tho.
@@lormingo5259 because the first class monsters are special, it would be boring if they were just regular occurrences like the flagships
Why would we need another black dragon? Having a black dragon thematically makes no sense considering the whole Japanese ascetic Kamura and Rise as a whole got going on also the black dragons are supposed to be a special thing in MH and constantly throwing them as a finale will just get old and I know you lot would eventually just start complaining if it's always some kind of black dragon.
Makes senses. Putting black dragon everywhere would make them doesnt feel special anymore
Utsushi does what every hunter does: Use a Stinkmink (you can see the stench evaporating)
Easily the best fight in the entire game. I love its attacks which locks you in place (unless you wire evade) which look straight from Final Fantasy where a summon pulls you into its domain and beat you up from there. The lightning-infused attacks are fantastic. Music is amazing, not only Amatsu's theme but even the tiny detail when wyvern-ride theme didn't replace Zinogre's is highly appreciated.
The only gripe I have with the whole thing is Amatsu didn't have its own arena. I thought we will transfer to the peak of Infernal Springs which is actually the Sacred Pinnacle.
Anyways, everything else is beautiful, the subtle change in SFX, even Amatsu flying beside the camp is fascinating.
Amatsu is like Raiden from MGS4: the rain transformed
I think they made it in the spring because it's meant to be the village of Kagero's backstory?
I would also have preferred the Pinnacle, but if that's the case it kinda makes more sense for it to be here I guess.
The Mountain Range is 99,99999% the same so it doesn't break the lore, wich is what matters the most to me lmao.
Edit: also Amatsu being in the camp is another refence to P3rd
@@yurei4414 at least something similar to the Pinnacle, idk i just wanted Amatsu to have its own unique arena. But hey we still got the sunrise..
I remember that it's visible from the camp, but to hover that close? Damn that's epic
A few months on, and while Heaven-Sent may not be absolutely meta, it is the comfiest of comfort skills. Having sharpness management and stamina management wrapped into a single skill, plus the fact that the respective armor pieces that bear the skill have plenty of 4-slots to work with, makes the Amatsu chest, arms and legs absolutely worth making - even worth making multiples of for different sets! I have two sets of the Heaven-Sent pieces - one each having a rank of Dragon Conversion or Furious for elemental damage, and one with Buildup Boost for status.
Utsushi probably used a Stinkmink and pissed off an Apex Zinogre enough to drag him all the way there.
Capcom is really killing it in an era where gaming is really struggling, they're saving us lmao.
Man things just keep changing how am I suppose to keep up 👴, I miss the good old days 😿...
whats funny is that Utsushi used a stinkmink, you could see the stinkmink particles on him before it dissappaites
Utsushi summoning Apex Zinogre makes perfect sense. He had Stinkmink dust around him.
Amatsu is such a badass.
I love how insane the fight was and the I hope we can mount more Apexes. It's funny that it needs 2 people to mount the thing and maybe maybe maybe they can let us do that on other hunts too?
Amatsu is one of my favorite elders and after Sunbreak one of my favorite hunts lol
Cool detail with utsushi summoning the zinogre, he has the same particles that the player has when they use the minx that attracts monsters to you when used, so that's how he does it
If you do not know what make sense.. If you do go to a free investigation map.. You can actually lure/bait a monster to come after you to fight with another monster. You can use dung bombs to make them move from different places to different places.
I'm surprised I haven't seen people notice that Utushi draws in the Zinogre covered in Stinkmink smell with the white smoke around him
I like how the valstrax references amatsu's first worldwide appearance in mhgen
Amatsu wiped the floor with me so many times
ITS IN RISE WOOOO
This fight showed the real potential of the wirebug
this is why i was so hopping Yama Tsukami would get into rise. he's such an old monster and his fight would been PERFECT for Rise's Ariel ability
You took the GU run from Dynamo_lynn right? It's probably nice to give credit somewhere on stuff like that
That surprise with utsushi was really next level
Dual blade main when TU5 come : YESSSSSSSSS!!
Frenzied bloodlust is super good for db but.... Heavenly sent IS super good too.
Not only that... DB also has an exclusive rampage decor which is insanely good.
A fitting update for a cool weapon.
(I am not DB main)
The new melding is nuts, my friend showed me a screenshot of him getting frostcraft 3 w. wisperer 2 with 2 2 slot ☠️
@@alderwield9636 oh.... Yeah... About that...
I got super spread (spread 2) + 3 recovery with 4 1 1 slots. I called it Gunman's charm
@@unknownbenefactor8029 i got dereliction 2 on my 2nd meld lmaooo this shit is insane
you can see zinogre appear again if you bring along Utsushi in the hunt
I loved Amatsu before, and now, bam, they just consolidated the old fight into the first phase and added to it, then gave us a kickass phase 2 too. And it's also incredibly fair, though I triple carted first try, I felt it was my own fault and I could've made better decisions. Spectacular, frenetic but also evenly tempoed, lots of hard, clear decisions to make. Also, no proof! It just goes back to the music! The storm doesn't end until the fight does. Also I got an Apex Zinogre when I brought back Utsushi, which is also cool!
Risen Shagaru is also an incredible fight, and the perfect end to Gore Magala as a fight. It's the definitive, final boss of the Magalas, and doesn't betray what you've learned in your journey across fighting them, but does build on it in ways you have to learn. I got chip damage for days through my Lance, and basically spent half my fight kegstanding first aid med+s, but it was good old Shaggy Maggy, dialled up to 11. Seriously think Anomaly Raggy is gonna thrash me harder than the 140s ever would, too.
0:24
wot in tarnation
If you bring Utsushi along as a companion he summons the Thunderlord Zinogre for you again.
Omg I noticed the item sound change. Couldn't tell if it was a homage or a mistake!
Utsuhi lured the Zinogre as you see he had some smoke so I guess he used a Stinkmink to lure it
Wow to think the game i played 10 years ago has gotten so much love
I watch Rurikhan's live attempt with amatsu and this one chat sent me laughing "that tornado attack damages the fps more rather than the hunter" lol
Yo Beerus you got a new friend my boy
Fun fact: if you bring utsushi as the only follower, the apex zinogre will 100% return instead of being replaced By crimson glow valstrax
Amatsumagatsuchi
Kagerou doesn't just randomly go for the amatsu
They have beef
The whole backstory of him and tea girl was the reason fans predicted amatsu
"does more damage when you use a silkbind attack" the one silkbind hammer build able to knock out amatsu in one hit :
5:22 if you repeat the quest with Utsushi he will summon the apex Zinogre again
With how powerful our hunter got due to anomaly crafting and everything else… Amatsu fight is really cool, but i hope they drop the hazard level one with bigger health pool.
0:23 bro the kulugrex jiiva is the best elder dragon fr
my favorite part is against most of the roster, the wirebug feels like an advantage that gives you an edge. against Amatsu, its not a weapon you use to trump it, its a requirement to even have a chance at surviving.
7:53 I felt that moment
I still believe Amatsu is the child of Narwa/Ibushi.
Where is the "/j"
Where is the "/s"
Where is it.
I hope I will get to fight Amatsu eventually, there were too many post game monsters in Iceborne that I wasn't skilled enough to beat
Can’t wait for Akantor and ukakalos turf war in the new game
it is because utushi can mimic monster call and once had the whole village pull up to his place because they thought it was a jinouga but naw it was just utushi
The fact that people make ANY comparisons to Fatalis with Amatsu is crazy to me lol
Of course, Amatsu is way better!
@@kurokoschannel9238True
There should be great Wyverns and put monsters like magnamalo and Kulve Taroth in that tier
I loved this monster since playing portable third with a crappy translation patch xD
My precious cabbage
Can anyone tell me how I get the quest I’m on ps5 and mr98 didn’t even get any quest for this boss I did every quest so far pushing to100 but what I read in wiki that when u reach mr 10 u will unlocked the ques automatically but nothing!
Amatsu design and moveset are okay. it's just too easy, first try, no cart, without even trying, (I messed around with the arena mechanics) it's anticlimatic! Fighting Amatsu is like fighting flying Royal Ludroth spitting storm. On the other hand Risen Shagaru is just amazing. I believe upcoming Malzeno will be completely cure my dissapointment to Amatsu.
great video but you clearly have not played Generations Ultimate because lao shan lung is a really good fight in GU (especially his hazard version) and ahtal ka's fight is WAY more cinematic than amatsu's fight
God damnit is it so hard to find a guide on how to beat it uggggg wtf
Does anyone know what dual blades are good against it. I’ve been using wyvern strife and I keep running out of time.
Yes dual blades with the aerial switch skill!
How did literally every mh content creator forget that stinkminks exist?
I adore Rise Amatsu. It has like 4 supers, that you have to avoid in different ways!
All of them are an one shot,also
This MF was so hard, I just beat it today.
Amatsu was at most okay ngl
Amatsu has always been my fave elder since Portable 3rd and nothing has come close since....lies Alatreon did lmao
There should be great Wyverns
Matsu matsu man,i wanna be amatsu man
Il be honest i was one of the people totally disappointed and still is disappointed with the direction of how they did sunbreaks updates and il say this amatsu’s fight was amazing everything about ithas become my favorite fight ever it was a good challenge cinematic asf and im not dissatisfied whatsoever with this update i thought it was going to be the same boring fight but not at all the game give u alot to do which is good but im still at AR 80 i doubt il ever get to 300 unfortunately😅
what dragon is 0:24 ?
Pretty sure that was a Xeno Jiiva reference
Gaismagorm was really anti-climactic for the final story fight of sunbreak
The only thing I think they could’ve done to make this thing god tier is to make it larger in rise it looks to small
Also why am I always Given mantle of amastu even in GU I always get a mantle
The fight is definitely a glow up from past iterations, but dang I wish they chilled with the over reliance on wire bugs in order to escape certain attacks and the punishment of having none
Its endgame Sunbreak, if you dont have Wirebug down at this point its your fault.
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 never said it didn’t understand or was incapable of using it
Right now I'm stuck fighting him.. I've always found Amatsu annoying. During GU he made me drop the game cus he's such a bore to fight. Too much health, always running away and when it actually does stay in place, half the time it's too high above to land combos on it.
Shame because I love it's design.
Doesn't beat Iceborne Fatalis.
man.. i feel about the amatsu fight the same way i feel about rise... confused
like i really do like it but at the same time i have muched preferred the older MH games
wish if amatsu was harder like people really hyped me up saying its just a bit under the power of a black dragon and when i hear "black dragon" i know it will be a super intense and fun fight
amatsu was just a fun fight without intensity and IMO intensity enhances the fight by a lot
like MHR and amatsu imo could have been so much better if they had done some things in a different way they are so close to being amazing but they are just good
and remember people have different tastes some people HATE rise others LOVE rise im in the middle ground and imo all monster hunter games are good some better than others
The armor is severely lacking in design compared to the monster it derives from
Broke Sunbreak??
I might be the only person who finds Amatsu annoying rather than fun
The title was super clickbait. You can do better.
Amatsu isn't new though If anything its the story boss reskinned.
Not true
Meh, I think the old amatsu is better. He was a little boring before, but now he is both boring and kinda annoying. They buffed his attack frequency and mobility, as such a large dragon who's also constantly airborne, fighting him with Lance or hammer is painful because every movement he made repositions him over great distances. You are either chasing him down to get a few hits in or running away from his aoe attacks. (Or if you use a ranged weapon then he's just boring) His new ultimate attacks were pretty interesting when you first saw them, but once you know how to deal with them they start to get annoying really fast. You know that they don't pose any meaningful threat but you still gotta relentlessly wiredash and watch them play out.
I did it with Lance and skyward thrust, is was super fine!
The most cinematic is still fatalis. Amatsu is awesome in sunbreak but he deserved better, wirebug and rise hunter agility and ability made him so easy