Martin Amis & Irvine Welsh debate Scottish independence | Channel 4 News

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  • Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025

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  • @JuanWild51
    @JuanWild51 10 лет назад +27

    a couple of guys living in the USA, debating Scottish independence..

    • @fishfingers160
      @fishfingers160 9 месяцев назад +1

      And? One is Scottish and one is English, it doesn’t matter where they live. It’s like saying no one should have any interest in foreign wars, US presidential campaigns, foreign sports etc etc….

  • @michaelcoombs841
    @michaelcoombs841 3 года назад +5

    I wish news debates were like this now - they’re both pretty civil and curious

  • @burooo
    @burooo 10 лет назад +13

    Irvine speaks very well. Thanks Irvine.

  • @maryreilly5102
    @maryreilly5102 5 лет назад +17

    'The Scots have always been more left-wing that the Brits' commrnt says it all. Martin himself does not even think that the Scots are Brits.

  • @noormoses9742
    @noormoses9742 Год назад +6

    RIP Martin Amis❤😢

  • @sophie-grace9143
    @sophie-grace9143 4 года назад +10

    Martin Amis: "bereft" if Scotland voted for independence. I can't remember a single line in any of his novels that shows the slightest interest even in England outside London, let alone in any of the other UK nations.

    • @markdempsey8622
      @markdempsey8622 3 года назад +1

      That's a wonderful comment. I read "Success", gave up with "London fields'....his 'hipness' was a Concorde flight.

    • @fishfingers160
      @fishfingers160 9 месяцев назад

      Does he have to show interest? His personal opinions does not have to be in his novels, they’re fiction novels.

  • @DizzyVizion
    @DizzyVizion Год назад

    He appeals to loyalty.
    Like a master calling his dog.

  • @Gerard_2024
    @Gerard_2024 Год назад

    @01:56 You have "wrote" a lot about Englishness. Am I the only person who heard that glaring error ?
    When I went to school "written" was the correct form of the past participle of the verb "write".
    Has the language changed or is he himself simply not, as he says to Amis, "a master of words" @ 09:03 ?

  • @cantuntun
    @cantuntun 10 лет назад +9

    I´m from a very far away land (Argentina). Sorry for being direct: why exists such a huge debate outside from Scotland concerning their future ???? Why the british and international west media is so scared ???????? Why the big media presents the referendum like something so surrealist ????? Looks like we´r still living in the past where smaller territories were absorbed for stronger pirates empires without right to decide on their future. Is not big deal... it;s just a people who wants to be independent... is that so complicated to assimilate ?????

    • @garymorgan3314
      @garymorgan3314 8 лет назад +2

      The union of 1707 was favoured by the Scots, the engineers of Empire. It got them lots,,,as doe the Barnett formula now...look that up.
      Best wishes,
      Gary [ who likes Argentina].

  • @daisbumflea9070
    @daisbumflea9070 2 года назад +2

    " *tHe CelTic CharaCTer*
    *Retches*

  • @xtraspecialmango
    @xtraspecialmango 10 лет назад +12

    Was Martin high?

  • @grahamfleming8139
    @grahamfleming8139 Год назад +1

    Assaulting and attacking 181 countries is. Normal? This fellow Ignor Amos is a typical English man

  • @errolkim1334
    @errolkim1334 4 года назад

    SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS

  • @wanderer4568
    @wanderer4568 2 года назад

    Two men from very different social backgrounds

  • @periurban
    @periurban 10 лет назад +3

    NHS vs Trident. Yup.

  • @chaser8652
    @chaser8652 Год назад

    rip

  • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
    @alphabetaxenonzzzcat 4 года назад +3

    Scottish independence will come - just not yet. I think it needs to happen, as to stop a lot of anti English sentiment up in Scotland. A velvet divorce like was done in Czechoslovakia would be the best thing to do.

    • @pauldoherty6413
      @pauldoherty6413 4 года назад +4

      Anti English sentiment? Utter nonsense.

    • @TomorrowWeLive
      @TomorrowWeLive Год назад

      ​@@pauldoherty6413 not at all. Scots today are viciously anti-English. And becoming more so with each generation the SNP brainwashes with communist poison (whilst their own current leader, a brown Muslim foreigner, rages that so many Scottish government positions are filled by...Scots and wants to throw people in prison for what they say in the privacy of their own homes).

  • @Cousinreeek
    @Cousinreeek Год назад

    Irvine needed not show up as Martin Amis single handily makes one of the best demonstrations for a need for Scottish independence you’ll ever see.

  • @scottstewarttv
    @scottstewarttv 3 года назад

    Even the news reporter is bias towards Scotland hahahaha

  • @leftin74
    @leftin74 3 года назад

    The Scottish Lords were paid in gold to join with England. SO give the English the gold BACK

  • @dariusvanderulvo9862
    @dariusvanderulvo9862 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the oil Scotland

    • @nikmak
      @nikmak 2 года назад

      Basically. Now its the the renewables they are after.

    • @agsrd4496
      @agsrd4496 2 года назад

      And it was squandered

  • @67cyborg1
    @67cyborg1 8 лет назад

    ALEX SALMOND BLEW IT.

  • @errolkim1334
    @errolkim1334 4 года назад

    That Irvine Welsh is a writer, yeah? He's glancing at his notes all the time. He's a lightweight.

    • @markdempsey8622
      @markdempsey8622 3 года назад +7

      No. He's an excellent writer.

    • @errolkim1334
      @errolkim1334 3 года назад

      @@markdempsey8622 no...he is poo

    • @hokeypokey3645
      @hokeypokey3645 Год назад +2

      It is no crime to look at your notes. I thought he argued his case well.

  • @polomis27
    @polomis27 Год назад

    All three of our poor babies described Ireland as part of "Britan",
    All three of our babies said this has never happened before........
    All three of our babies have never read a book
    Ireland is an independent Republic
    Ireland has a seat in the United Nations.
    Ireland ha shat in the face of Britishness and has had no consequences of substance

    • @nickelmouse451
      @nickelmouse451 9 месяцев назад

      "All three of our babies have never read a book" - Yes, the novelists have never read a book...