Gamerfinger Fightstick / Arcade Buttons
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- In this video I review the Gamerfinger HBFS-30 and HBFS-24 fightstick / arcade stick / hitbox buttons!
I compare them directly to Sanwa OBSF buttons and Hori Hayabusa buttons.
The buttons can be found here:
gamerfinger.com/ - Gamerfinger Website
www.focusattac... - Focus Attack
HBFS G3 description:
Fit in 30mm hole.
Pushbutton, Snap-In with buckle
Suitable for panel thickness: 2mm ~ 4mm
Designed For Professional Fight Gamers
Base on CHERRY MX Micro Switch Speed Silver
40% Faster than the CHERRY MX Red switch
Noise-Reducing Design
Life (at 5 V, 1mA, no load): 50 million cycle
Operating Force: 45g
Operation Travel: 1.2mm
Total Travel: 2.5mm
Suited For 2.8mm Terminals
I've been researching buttons all day long. This is like, the best video I've seen. Thank you.
Thanks for watching and for the kind words!
@@MrSujano No worries. I just bought a full set of gamer fingers buttons after seeing this video. It will be great that they are silent for when I'm playing at night.
@@coquifrog man where do you find full sets of 30mm ones? where ever I have looked at focus attack or there own site are always out of stock
@@Demon09-_- Checked out their store yesterday, they got almost everything restocked.
@@AlecWalker007 I ended up buying crown 202c buttons that use mx silver switches also
Nice review. I'm completely happy with my set for my custom hitbox (all 30mm buttons), and I find the feeling of actuation has helped execution of moves and movement overall. AND you can pop the cherry mx out switches to fine tune the buttons how you want. Very, very well worth the premium price.
The best review I've seen so far.
Are the MX switches swappable? As a keyboard enthusiast who stumbled into this, cherry MX are pretty basic. You could swap these out for nicer, smoother, quieter, louder, lighter, or heavier switches. There are so many options. You can even lube and film switches to make them smoother and tighter (less stem wobble). You can get nice heavy tactiles that don't make a audible click, or super light smooth switches with shorter travel. If you pick up these buttons give a look into keyboard enthusiast videos and forums and such and see what's out there. Cherry MX is the tip of the iceberg as they say.
Cherry ain't no go-to gold standard for keyboards by pure merit.
They were the last one standing when the mechanical keyswitch industry collapsed.
But their bread and butter was the linear keyswitch. Much better suited to this than cramming tactility and a clicker into their linear switch design and sticking us with them in keyboards just because there was no other choice for 10 years.
Where's Seimitsu PS-14-GN buttons? They are my favorite.
Yeah this was a great review I’m probably gonna get the model of the white ones for the silence
we could use a sample between the Silent Sanwa buttons too
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll be doing one of those in the future with the new set of silent Sanwas coming out
Sanwa silencer foam pads are like 1.87 a pack of 8 and they make a world of difference, very quiet.
I put dampeners and o rings in my sanwas and they're whisper quiet but not as quiet as those gamerfingers think im gonna order up 6 of them next week
O rings? Where can you get the o rings for sanwa buttons? I have the silencer foam pads but never seen o rings, do you mean the mechanical keys o rings?
What is the actuation force and travel distance on the Hori Hayabusa buttons? I'd like to compare the data with MX switches.
They look better than Sanwa's kinda regret buying a bunch of sanwas before watching this video
I need a Question answered.. to anyone?? love your video.. I have the Mayflash, F300.. I wish there was a way to change the small little buttons on the corner , the back-view select and home little buttons.. or maybe just buy another fight stick just for the ps4 and ps3.. if so ? which one... this one all ready was modded , as fare as the joy stick and buttons.. its a great Game stick.. but the back-view an select little buttons are driving me crazy , when using the ps4 controller and the fight stick in the game .. can you give me any feed back on this problem ?? I'm a 63 year old gamer, that owns 5 systems, PS$ slim, PS3 slim, Xbox360 slim, A Wii ( red one with Game cube 4 port controller input ) A NES classic, ( Mod with 210 games ) and a retro-bit, with over 200 games , but love my ps4 and ps3 an xbox30 slim... lol.. i needed a HDMI splitter , to connect all to one Tv...lol...Great video for sure you post ..
been playing on mine for over a couple months. Got mine for full price straight from GamerFinger before FocusAttack carried them. Waiting to try new cherry switches in them as I'm still using the Silvers. I did try the 65g zealios but since they weren't pcb mounted they kept popping out after hard use. if it's pcb mounted switches you should be good to go.
How would you say the silver MXs feel? FocusAttack just ran out of them again. I was looking for a feel similar to a keyboard.
@@__InMyPants__ they're basically reds with the actuation being 2mm shorter I think. So they actuate sooner than reds. Honestly, I've gone back to my seimitsu "ps-#-k" buttons. Maybe it's because the housing in the GamerFinger buttons use a foam padding and I didn't really like it. Sorry for the late reply, RUclips never gave me the proper notification.
I am looking forward to buy these, but I saw your video that they are very hard to get nowadays 😞
wow really impressive regarding the noise !! :-o
hey Mr.Sujano ! another nice video thank you ! i hope you had a good time at Canada cup this weekend ! also..i was wondering if maybe you have a idea on how to make the hayabusa buttons silent..in the case you love them or you can't afford to buy another stick for exemple.. Sanwa/Seimitsu silencer maybe ?
Hey! Absolutely. The noise on a lot of buttons is the plastic top smacking the base of the button when you press down. If you take apart the button (top from base) you can insert a very thin piece of durable foam, or I've even heard of people placing cotton around base. Just make sure to not place anything over the microswitch, and start out with only a little bit around the edge of the button base.
well... those Sanwa/Seimitsu silencer are not a miraculous method !!
You 'll still hear the clicks....
Nice review! Just wish they didn’t have the edges, looks kinda odd. How’s the quality of the snap in bits on the side? I know my clear Sanwa buttons always break as soon as I try and remove them from my stick.
The buttons themselves feel like a higher quality plastic than the sanwas. I've broke a few Sanwas as well. I find that the gamerfingers are a lot more rigid and require a bit more force to get seated properly. I prefer the screw in buttons to be honest, but space for the extra screw portion isn't always available.
In my case I have the screw ins because I was tired of snapping the tabs on pop in buttons. Gamerfinger feels somehow cheap but strong. I'm expecting them to last a long, long time.
Hi, i know that this is really late, but how did you manage to fit the gamerginer in the white rap 4 kai? Did you have to sand down inside the stick or did you just have to roll with it being kinda loose?
Interesting. I don't mind the buttons being loud (I kinda prefer it personally) and I don't play hitbox so the MX Blues look very appealing to me. I know that I have a tendency to sometimes rest my fingers a bit too heavy on the buttons, giving me unwanted inputs every now and then. So buttons with a higher actuation force would probably fit me very well.
Not sure what I feel about the angular design of the button rims, though.
Did you get them ?
Mechanical keyboard nerds stopped watching when you said Cherry Silvers were the gold standard, lol.
I’m actually dreaming of putting krytex lubed holy bobas in an HBFS-30 shell for my arcade stick… the best of both worlds and absolutely a true example of diminishing returns
The best buttons for me is Hayabusa
Do these have as much slack as the Sanwas? I have Sanwa buttons and they are super sensitive, too much for my liking. I’d prefer little to no slack before actuation if possible. Nice review.
Try seimitsu buttons, have good quality and are less sensitive
What are the X shaped gamer finger caps called?
have you tried the crown/samducksa buttons with cherry mx switches in them?
Very nice and informative vid, thanks alot. I will order 8 pcs, i´ll think the dragon has enough space around the buttonholes to fit 8 screwbuttons. I´m very impressed how silent the grey switches were, but i´ll definitly will get 8 of the blue switches, must it feel on my own. Anyway, you really helped me out. Greetings from germany.
Be warned on the blue switches if you do the piano double tap it doesnt really work as blues need to come up a certain amount to activate again. But if you dont the click could be quite nice
@@Demon09-_- Thanks for the quick reply, yeah, i know about that, how i said, i must get hands on itself, before i can make a decision. I´m not a doubletap-player, so, this is my first try to take a look&feel of other buttons than Sanwa. About the blue switches, they were from the pressurepoint the hardest, 60g, so they come on top as quick as possible for the "tactile feedback option", in comparison to the orange and green ones, am i right? This is why i´ll go for it. Otherwise, how the buttons feel is different, in which body you´ll house it, i´d got 8 Silent Sanwas in the Dragon, it´s quiet, but not the feeling, as in my clicky TE2 or Panthera. ;) Here´s a list from FA:
Red: 45g operating force, linear feel
Silver: 45g operating force, linear feel, operative travel 1.2mm versus 2mm of Red MX
Black: 60g operating force, linear feel
Brown: 55g operating force, soft tactile feel
Blue: 60g operating force, click tactile feel
Razer MX Orange: 45g operating force, soft tactile feel, silent operation, operative travel 1.9mm versus 2mm of Red MX
Razer MX Green: 50g operating force, click tactile feel, operative travel 1.9mm versus 2mm of Red MX
@@AlecWalker007 the 1.9 vs 2m is pretty much the same since they can be plus or minus a little. I would go with mx cherry switches tho blues are really nice if you want the click. The new sanwa silents are really nice if you want quiet but not mushy
@@Demon09-_- I never tried out the "new" Sanwa Silencers/Generation 2, but i will in the future, the "old" silencers are really too mushy. Anyway, you got a new abonemment. My personal goal this year is, for arcade sticks for sure, that my Dragon in online-matches with Headset isn´t that loud, cause Chat is on and stuff, and i will sell the TE2 & the Panthera and get the Victrix, for traveling and mobile use when i play with friends local. Gladly, since MadCatz is gone, the Fightstickscene is not dead, other companies really care about what gamers thinking, so we can look into a great future. Have a nice day.
Mr Sujano, for these new g3 buttons does the rim around the gap spin easily or does it tight enough that you can barely move it through force?
This is pretty important as I am interested in purchasing these buttons but it moving around would be a huge deal breaker.
I'd say its 100% determined by your fightstick. They dont move around at all on the Rap4. The screw tops (if you have room for them) can be tightened really tight.
Oh I see, thanks for the quick reply :) guess I'll give these buttons a go
Do you have the issue that others on reddit are discussing about the caps popping off midgame? (if you pressed hard, etc)
None yet. These buttons were used pretty heavily by multiple players at Canada Cup and they all are still intact
Just wondering are Sanwa buttons Crown/Samducksa? Really new to fightsticks.
They are two different brands. Crown is Korean brand, while Sanwa Denshi is Japanese brand
Thank you :)
what is a HBFS Plug with the button??
Mrsujanoooooooooo look at you so fancy and stream give away for them keychains :D
I want to switch my sanwa buttons for gamerfinger buttons, there are two types, screw-in or snap-in, which one does the hitbox uses or is better? I also want to know if it's possible to add more buttons to my hitbox, like a button that imputs forward+attack button simultaneously, I want to add 3 more buttons, is it possible? they are sold in two places, focusattack (only screw type) and gamerfingers' website, but not with the blue switch! Could you help me ?
Can you take out the silencer from the gamerfinger and still use it?
I think its built directly into the switch, but you can order non silenced cherry mx swtches at focusattack.com
Really and they still have the gamerfinger housing?
@@surensingh9545 Yep, its kind of a "build your own" option over there.
www.focusattack.com/pushbuttons/popular-brands/gamerfinger/
Hayabusa button register faster. No idea why they put MX blue in arcade buttons, we need speed, not noise.
Having a higher actuation force would be preferable to some (myself included), and as evidenced by NihongoGamer's video[s] on these, the MX Blues are still very quiet.
Speed silver are so silent and Quiet buttons,i really like my new GF
I call bulls hit on that test. You even think about a hori button and they go off. So many accidental inputs.
Can you put art under the 24mm?
Yep, same depth as the 30mm
@@MrSujano In the buttons themselves? I saw another video that said you can't so I'm very curious.
@@RobSomeone I don't see why you couldn't put artwork underneath 24mm buttons. For the hitbox in specific, you'd have to replace the plexi with a clear panel to see the art underneath. The size of the 24mm buttons doesn't prevent artwork from showing
@@MrSujano I'm not sure you understand my question or I'm not understanding your answer. Can you take apart the buttons and then place a circular piece of art inside the button face so as to have the artwork continuously displayed with the buttons?
@@RobSomeone Ohhhh I see what you mean. It looks like it can be done
www.reddit.com/r/fightsticks/comments/adm7qu/took_my_time_with_cheat_engine_and_replaced_the/
So I'm gonna spend more than what I paid for my f300 on less audible buttons. LOL
they look worse to me, they look sloppy and loose, i need that click in my life sanwa (jdm) all the way
They feel really cheap, odd expesive product
They are hella slow too
Really? I was planning on ordering 6