METALCORE THEN VS. NOW 2 - Riffs From The 2000s vs. Today (2022) Riff Battle
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- The results from round 1 were inconclusive! The only way to settle the score... is another round. Same premise, all new bands. Classic melodic metalcore from the 2000s vs. some of the best new metalcore from the last few years. Which riffs do you prefer? As always, let me know in the comments!
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I love the fact that Trivium still has this thrashy and melodic sounding riffs.
The fact that someone else listened to Darkest Hour still makes me very happy till this day.
Lead guitarist Kris Norris had some of the most amazing guitar riff writing skills back then.
Indeed! Underrated riffs
this a million times. undoing ruin is my fav metal album of all time. something about how it is so insanely melodic and dark at the same time. a true masterpiece.
Both are very technical but 2000's Metalcore was catchier and better in my opinion
Man, starting off with Unearth was the greatest idea ever.
A quiet place to die was easily my top album of 2020. Glad to see metalcore going back towards it's hardcore roots lately.
Bands like Knocked Loose and Kublai Khan got that “hardcore-core” kind of sound where they are in between hardcore and metalcore.
@@Mavvyd96sunami as well. I call it ARF-core lmao
@@Mavvyd96 Boundaries & Mouth for War, thank me later
Your picks for the 2000's were so good. Definitely encapsulates a lot of my favorites.
Man i must be a boomer cuz i love all the old songs and see no love in the new stuff
That bleeding through riff though! And straight into Knocked Loose. Metalcore has always been great.
Undoing Ruin, from Darkest Hour, one of the best metalcore album ever !
(Hidden hands of a sadist nation was awesome too)
Old stuff beats the shit out of the new metalcore
omfg Darkest Hour Undoing Ruin is such a fucking slamming album still listen to it till this day. Matter of fact listen to the whole album through 4 times at work about 5 days ago lol.
I love that you threw in the old school bleeding through, darkest hour, and trivium. All of those albums bring me right back to high school
Same!
These videos are the perfect blend of nostalgia and showing me new bands to check out! Love this series!
That's what I like to hear!
Much more melody is thr classics. Groove as well. They flowed so well. There's no denying it. A fantastic Era in metal we may never see again
Funny that modern metalcore is very nu metal inspired, when at the time the old school metalcore stuff came out, nu metal was considered next to shit. I grew up on the older stuff, but do enjoy both flavors, personally.
every old metalcore music always has the cloudy mood and gloomy weather in my imagination which is the best weather!
I’m trying my best to enjoy modern metalcore but I’m having such a hard time with it. I wonder if it’s because 2000’s metalcore has my heart when it comes to anything heavy and nothing compares.
Don’t get me wrong, I fucking love chugs and 0 tabbed riffs but when that’s everything, you get kinda desentized to it and it loses its pop.
I don’t know man, I feel like modern day doesn’t have that same energy and that intensity old school did.
With all that said, Thomas you still absolutely crushed this video and your talent is insane!! I’m excited for the future of this channel!
Dude, do one more Thrash Metal then and now. You introduced me to Angelus Apatrida because of that. Can't thank you enough.
That could happen, definitely a lot of bands I didn't get to! Angelus Apatrida is great.
Hometown band :) not my style but they are fckn great live!
have you seen them live yet? one of the best bands
Bro, the quality of your videos are absolutely S tier. Hope you get bigger soon.
Thank you so much. I appreciate the support!
Love these videos for introducing me to great new songs. Keep it up!
That's what's up! Thanks for watching
Oh man and Knocked Loose are on here too. A Tear In The Fabric of Life was one of the best EPs I’ve ever heard and made me fall in love with the band. KL fuck so hard.
i love the old pure fast and melodic metalcore riffs so much
Today's metalcore is tuned lower and has more chugging and I love it.
and this is how my playlist grows... excellent
Metalcore in the 2030s will be played with 3 Bass Guitars and a Snare Drum and the songs gonne be 95% Breakdown in agonisingly slow 20bpm. Saves a lot of songwriting time for a 3 Minute Song.
What you are telling me, is I already lived through the best era of Metalcore when I was a teenager.
Yes. Nothing beats 2000s era metal core. It was at its peak.
Mad respect for choosing drowned and torn asunder, such a deep cut but I love that song. That said, idk I think Rain off that album would've been better for just showing off 2000s metalcore
The light that blinds… Blew my middle school mind while playing it on guitar hero 2!
Excellent video, brought back some memories. I can recall hours upon hours spent in my late teens-early 20s attempting to learn all but one the "Then" songs. Good times.
Great picks man!! Love it!!
Love that shadows fall riff, the first metal song I ever heard! Great video
Oldschool metalcore took a lot of influences from melodeath and thrash, nowadays they all try to become the next meshuggah with really technical stuff
I was hoping you'd do some Norma Jean right after Knocked Loose to highlight their similarities despite a decade + between them.
Old! Win!
These videos fucking rock! Keep doing them! Maybe do a battle of the guitarists catalogs next??
Thanks! What would an example of that be?
@@ThomasHogue like Omar Rodriguez-Lopez vs Jimi Hendrix (maybe bad example) ,Tom Morello vs Johnny Greenwood, James Hetfield vs Dimebag Darrell, Tosin Abasi vs Joe Satriani.. I’m older what can I say 🤷♂️
Woah that Unearth song at the start reminded me a lot of Born Of Osiris. Wonder if that was one of the influences for their music
so good
Sometimes i feel like a boomer because i can't like modern metalcore. I miss the goddamnits 00's riffs
Erra, after the burial, and polaris have some pretty good 0s filled riffs
after the burial still has righteous thrash parts! love that band. reminds me of the awesomeness of the chunky jams that happened in the 2010's but without a hint of nu metal that we all grew to loathe being from the early era.
still prefer classic metalcore, I think its because I also really like powerful vocals (like old Queensryche, BlackBox, Lady Gaga, Dio are a few) so I want really passionate riffs if I can't have spectacular vocals. I find some gems but theyre artists that are inspired by the 80's (Air Raid, Sumerlands for ex), so I have a hard time finding newer stuff that appeals to me.
Absolutely agree. I'm very picky about screaming vocals, and like a break from it with cleans. Which is why I love Trivium, ATR, and Killswitch. As much as I love other bands like Sylosis, I'm always hearing parts where clean vocals would be perfect.
Always good stuff!
You killed it 🔥🔥
You always pick some pretty killer songs to use 🤘 When I saw the Bleeding Through song, all I could think of was the Willem Dafoe sample from Boondock Saints 😂
Lmao had to google it. Not far off. Thanks for watching!
Not really a metal pick, but I'm hopeful. My favorite band is 5FDP. They have grown and changed over the years, and I'd love to see you do a rendition. Either way dude, you have shown me so much music I never knew existed. I wish more people were subbed so you could get the recognition you deserve
That's what I like to hear! Thanks for the kind words. 5FDP gets a lot of hate but they do have some good moments. Will think about if I can work them in 🤘
The light that binds is still a banger!
Starting with Unearth is pretty appropriate, dude kinda looks like a young Buz lol
I thought the same thing hahahah
Again, I was never a metalcore fan back in the day AT ALL, (thrash all day everyday!). But ironiclly, I like the newer stuff a lot more. More experimental and interesting imo.
Alright here we go :D
I think the way modern metalcore downtunes really isn't my cup of tea. I like when the riffs are tight, punchy, technical, and melodic. I get the chugginess of downtuning but I say leave that for the death core and djent fans.
Then I was a youngin, now I am old oooooffffff.
Been getting into more metal again lately. Would love to see you do some riffs from Spiritbox, Sleep Token, Thornhill and Northlane.
Also, not sure if Chunk! No, Captain Chunk! is metalcore enough, but they also have some pretty sick riffs. In the Pop Punk vein, Sum 41 has some heavy riffs too. ADTR is another with good breakdowns.
And for an older band, Deftones has a lot of good breakdowns and riffs. Idk how much Nu Metal/Alt Metal stuff you have explored, but there is content there as well.
Hell yeah! Good suggestions. And coincidentally... I do have a metalcore vs. deathcore breakdowns video that includes both Chunk and ADTR 😃
@@ThomasHogue Thanks ill check it out!
It Dies Today would be a banger of a band to include next time 👀
Love the videos man! Do you make your own backtracks?
Thank you! Yes I do
it really is just a completely different genre nowadays
I’m so glad Ice Nine Kills got some love here. I truly think they’re the best modern metalcore band around.
Generally I think the modern stuff is better. Silent planet, thornhill, spiritbox, invent animate and ofc architects (though not really their current album), those bands are so good!
2000's were way better. Didn't need fancy backing tracks and low ass tunings to sound good.
I’ll be that guy this one was pretty close.
SHADOWS FALL! missed those guys :(
Crazy the best era of the genre was when every band just ripped off at the gates
Please do Punk Rock then vs now
There were a lot of terrible Metalcore bands in the 2000s. I sampled many bands in those days but really only stuck with August Burns Red and Throwdown to be honest.
A Quiet Place to Die* Undoing Ruin* 😅
To be honest a quite place to die would be an interesting play on words
Modern metalcore is good.
2000's metalcore is CLASSIC.
It's obvious
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It's me or the old metal core sounds a little bit like thrash metal? 🤔
old school metalcore literally just thrash metal with hardcore elements and some influences from melodic death.
Old school metalcore is heavily influenced by thrash and melodic death metal
@@zxc521137210 Well.. yes and no. For Metalcore bands which came from Hardcore scene that was the other way round.
Bands which came out in 00's from Metal scene and was also labeled Metalcore so for them yes like you writing.
Cheers
I hate that I love it all
now its better but before it was awesome too
Isnt Knocked Loose a deathcore band?
IN THE NEXT VIDEO THERE HAS TO BE A PHINEHAS SONG FROM THE LAST ALBUM. PLEASEEEEEE
Noted! Will keep that in mind 😁
I think ice nine kills kinda bridge the gap between the old and the new style
Wooo darkest hour
Old school metalcore is more influenced by melodic death metal. Modern metalcore is more influenced by djent
I feel like a metalcore boomer now cause the new stuff just sounds like AI generated metalcore to me 😐
Modern metalcore = tune as low as possible with open 0 - 12 - 0- 1 riffs lol
Does anyone know what guitar he's using on the right? It's gorgeous
It’s a schecter apocalypse c7!
New stuff is so down tuned !
The early stuff is very influnenced by thrash!
Generally old stuff that was Thrash plus Hardcore but diffrent from Crossover Thrash
FFaK... 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Is it just me or is that Ice Nine Kills the dumbest thing ever?
Funny how every modern Metalcore band basically plays a variation of the Doomsday Riff and every classic band plays a variation of that famous At The Gates record. Liked the old stuff better, tho. That alien sound sqealing in the modern stuff is kinda annoying.
As technically sound as it is, I really think current metalcore sucks balls. All flash, no substance, too clean and over-processed.
Not the best picks for today's metalcore. That said, 2000s mc was lighter and fun, while modern slaps harder, get's more technical and is definitely darker
Who do you think are the best modern bands?
@@ThomasHogue Hmm, well I don't mean in terms of bands. I meant in terms of breakdowns. But I think it's just subjective. And I just realized this is not the breakdown video but the riff one, so you can ignore my comment 🤷♂
@@thronosstudios it's all good. I just thought there might be some new bands I should check out 😄
@@ThomasHogue Haha, fair enough
My Will be done > Akudama
Tranquil < The American Nightmare
The light that blinds < Apollo
Drowned and Torn asunder = Burned at..
Composure > Vendetta (Almost Equal imo)
Love lost… < God Knows
New won imo, but I love both a ton
Metalcore had balls back then, the new breed sounds emo with lower tuning..
My will be done is trash metalcore
you must say to the guy to the right that all the riffs he played is not metalcore but hardcore ou mathcore ...
Another excellent video with great song selections!
Thanks for the support! Glad you liked it
ughhhh how freaking good was undying ruin tho 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
Undoing. Lol.
I'll always say Metalcore went way downhill. Deathcore has improved tremendously though.
Interesting opinion. Personally I think that older metalcore is great in terms of nostalgia and memorable riffs, modern metalcore is also just as good, idk why it just is for me, same with deathcore tbh
Deathcore now is absolutely incredible. The best it’s been since 2008 MySpace deathcore
@@brennyfb Thats a fact
New metalcore is pop mostly
I still enjoy some modern metalcore but 2000s and even 2010s core was way better. And you’re absolutely right, deathcore has consistently gotten better especially with bands like Shadow of Intent and Lorna Shore.
Chimaira was also a great Metalcore band of the early 2000’s. They had alot of great shit! “The Impossibility of Reason” was a great album. Shadows Fall and Unearth f-ing great! Especially back in the day!
Always love seeing you pull out the old school Myspace throwbacks. I won't get tired of seeing your guitar collection
I saw alpha wolf and instantly clicked
I definitely prefer to metalcore of the 2000-2010 era much more than the more modern metal core. I'm still a deathcore dude all day every day though!
Nice to see Unearth and Darkest Hour in there! I feel like those bands have some of the best riffs and don’t get mentioned very much at all
METALCORE NOW IS DJENT addict
So mid 2000s metalcore was obviously better 💁♂️
Metalcore after 2013= random fucking screeches and highs for no reason
Ascendancy is such a good album from start to finish
i loved see u playing darkest hour song dude
As a guy who spent most of his musical career playing with bands from the mid to late 2000's and some early 2010's I will just always prefer the sound of that era of metalcore. Perhaps its just a nostalgia thing and I'm just biased but I can only listen to a fraction of the newer stuff compare to the earlier stuff.
Old metalcore better than new