I played a fortress map last night where there were so many mobs, I swear there was no space for them to move. I use poison and it hops from dead enemies to living one's so I'd wipe out huge huge sections with one shot. Never seen any space that crowded before. Love it.
They should make breach catalysts usable on maps to add breaches to maps, maybe 5x catalysts increases the number of breaches by 100% and the breach 'difficulty' by 50% and 10x catalysts would raise that to 200%/100%, would give a permanent use/value to catalysts. Same thing goes with expedition currency, they need to create permanent uses for these items, and maybe if the top juicers start not picking them up, the currency will still hold value for players not on the cutting edge of progression.
Breach wasn't really nerfed. They said in the interview last week that a lot of monsters weren't spawning in breaches due to errors. They said they were going to lower the amount of monsters but it wouldn't look any different to players since they weren't actually spawning anyway.
It's nerfed as a group content but not for single players. My friends and I ran 20 300% quantity maps, and it was really bad. Single player was way better.
@@vzwson4995well since the only way to increase quantity would be on your map and on your Tower. I doubt you juiced a map up that extreme. You might mean rarity, rarity's not quantity.
@ I mean Quant. I know what quant is bud, I'm lvl 98. This particular map was 300% Quant and 200% rarity. It can happen with the Atlas passives that can double the precursers explicit mods. If multiple nodes proc, boom 250-300% quant
Great breakdown! I didn't see anything about Herald of Ice in the patch notes so I'm assuming it still doesn't work on deli monsters after 0.1.1? I guess at least more monsters in maps means it can still proc on native monsters and explode the deli monsters, but it feels a lot worse to clear deli maps without it working.
Deli mobs leave no corpses so i dont think on death explosions will ever work? But if you have coursing currents on charged staff and extra shock chance herald of thunder clears them out pretty gud
The thing that I got stuck on every league in PoE1 and with EA for PoE2 is getting *started* into a farming strat. I love the idea of running the content to improve the content via their drops, I think that's a great loop. But I finally got my first Simulacrum just yesterday. I know it's because I wasn't juicing my maps. But I wasn't juicing cause I felt I wasn't strong enough. So I didn't have the currency to improve my gear quickly. A not so great loop. There's some deficiency in my education of what to do post-campaign but pre-T4 content. So that's all to share a video suggestion: What is the progression from nothing (ie League Start) into your points? Or, to put it another way, What's a 0-point farming plan to get your League Atlas trees started out? Love the content! Thanks!
Bro this is the most concise absolutely important point. These vids are always like "oh this is only 12 divines..Pick this node that's 36 passive points away...run simulacrums to farm" Like I'm finally generating wealth some now but I had to fill in a lot of gaps myself and there's not a lot of good info for complete laymen beginners or slow farmers Would be such a good series
In case you did not mention it or I missed it, everyone should be running the Instilled maps in Towers. The Towers are dropping a very healthy amount of splinters and makes the normally useless tower maps much nicer to run
Not sure if you’re aware of how much currency you’re sitting on since you’re enormous pile of emotions can be upgraded at the reforging bench. They work like tiers wherein Ire is the lowest and upgrades to guilt and so forth. Thanks for the video!
That's all total not even one max tier emotion. Exponential growth is deceptively fast. I'd guess that's around 200 exalts total in emotions in the tab.
Im finding waystone drop chance effect how many splitners im getting out of the maps, im just slamming maps to 6 affixes and running rare monster insitlls and getting 70-90 spliters per map when i corrupt them to be above 400% waystone drop chance
@PathofEvening 100% it very well could be placebo of more map juice = more spliters. But definitely feel like I make back the 2-3 ex spent slamming each map on spliters Tower maps have felt surprisingly good for spliter drops for me as well its great
4:23 the music sounds ripped from Castle Crashers lol. First act of that game where you run through the woods away from enemies has the same chords and everything
withe the last left side node, why is it a bad thing if the fog doesnt move? you can still end the fog yourself when youve done what you can do in the map.
@@PathofEvening that makes sense, i guess i havent seen enough delerium mirrors to understand how it works. i've definitely had a couple of maps that i ran out of fog a few seconds in.
@@Menaceofri2 just so you know in the future. Delirium fog spreads from the mirror point in a sort of doughnut shape. So a band of fog will move outward from the mirror. Pausing the fog indefinitely essentially bricks the delirium, as it will stop moving, and stop spawning mobs to up your reward points
@@danielelia2256 It's the same, insane mods at 11 stage and beyond, invincible mobs spawned IN you directly and rares with manaburn and haste and other insane mods spawned exactly in you there's no chance to finish it unless 200 div gear or ultra meta broken builds that have insane damage from broken interactions
@@kazmaahr yes I tried it first time with one of my friend and we literally got one shooted at stage 11 once and 12 too then I tried it alone same shit, it's a shame because I need those delirium points... Is there a carry possible? If I die during the event will I receive the point?
Can someone help me understand how to get this going? I’m clearing t15, and I only have like 12 shards and haven’t found any delerium tablets. How am I supposed to get enough to get started? He didn’t go over this at all, and it’s the hardest part… like this assumes you’re already going. I have maybe 4 total emotions, and get 2-4 splinters and 2-4 emotions per natural delirium map. I have maybe a couple hours to play at a time, and on that I might only find a handful max of natural mirrors
Do a diffrence strat until you have the currency to get this strat started. Something simple like trial of chaos will work only 1 ex entry fee but there's other stuff you cam do as well
Ice is not expanding delirium mobs right? Because they are not 'bodies'? Is that right? I have an ice based build so I'm wondering if that's good for Delirium
Only use paranoia on your best maps that rolled alot of increases rares or quantity already in super juiced areas. It's only worth it to run it on the juices imo
Thats not an opinion, just an observation of the market... and its by no means ideal but the game is balanced around preventing the sweatlords from entirely ruining the economy in 15mins, if there was a way to farm without time invested it would be abused
The strategy really hasn’t changed. Juice quant on towers and stack rare monsters for breach. They nerfed Breach sooooo hard. Had a 300 quant 3x breach and it was empty affff
funny gameplay in the background, hope something like this would not exists on the release and you have to actually play the game. But ggg could never =\
"catalysts are worthless" Maybe it is when you can no-life the game and get to farm endgame content all day. Most players can't (and won't) do that. The content creators for this game really need to get down from their cloud, where they think the 1% top players is representative of the entire community: they're not. It wasn't true for PoE1 and it's EVEN LESS true for PoE2 and its massive success. Most players never got to gather more than 50ex. Or even seen a divine drop.
More than 50ex? Are you trolling? You can easily do that without trying lol. Honestly, the majority of players can manage that and if you can't, it's literally a skill issue.
To be honest with you, it is really easy to have a good char with decent gear to clear t15 maps, especially in this EA. Therefore you can easily do breaches and have plenty of catalysts that, yes, are worthless. You dont need to no-life to explode mobs with one of the dozens of OP builds out there. If you don't gather more than 50 ex you are not even playing the game. Play the game at your own pace and have fun, but please try to be real, catalysts are extremely easy to get and yes, they are worthless in the current economy and state of the game. Peace.
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delirium is really bad to look at, they should definitely change it. Breach is so much better
Also herald of ice not working is annoying
I played a fortress map last night where there were so many mobs, I swear there was no space for them to move. I use poison and it hops from dead enemies to living one's so I'd wipe out huge huge sections with one shot. Never seen any space that crowded before. Love it.
@@jpVari hi there, what setup/ascendancy are you using? Looking for a poison build for a while
They should make breach catalysts usable on maps to add breaches to maps, maybe 5x catalysts increases the number of breaches by 100% and the breach 'difficulty' by 50% and 10x catalysts would raise that to 200%/100%, would give a permanent use/value to catalysts. Same thing goes with expedition currency, they need to create permanent uses for these items, and maybe if the top juicers start not picking them up, the currency will still hold value for players not on the cutting edge of progression.
Breach wasn't really nerfed. They said in the interview last week that a lot of monsters weren't spawning in breaches due to errors. They said they were going to lower the amount of monsters but it wouldn't look any different to players since they weren't actually spawning anyway.
so at first i felt like it was nerfed but after doing 20 + breaches, feels about the same as far as reward drops
It's nerfed as a group content but not for single players. My friends and I ran 20 300% quantity maps, and it was really bad. Single player was way better.
Do you even breach? I did a 300 quant 3x Breach earlier and it was empty as fuck.
@@vzwson4995well since the only way to increase quantity would be on your map and on your Tower. I doubt you juiced a map up that extreme. You might mean rarity, rarity's not quantity.
@ I mean Quant. I know what quant is bud, I'm lvl 98. This particular map was 300% Quant and 200% rarity. It can happen with the Atlas passives that can double the precursers explicit mods. If multiple nodes proc, boom 250-300% quant
Literally zero reason to not just run breach on delirious maps. Deli precursor prefixes are garbage. This patch changes nothing in the farming meta.
Yea it changes literally nothing. Meta skills are still the same. Same farming strat, same crafting (gambling) system.
Stack rare monsters on oils and quant stack breaches. Same old shit.
Just a good reminder to do deli
New to poe and love your vids man, thanks for the content and knowledge.
Great breakdown! I didn't see anything about Herald of Ice in the patch notes so I'm assuming it still doesn't work on deli monsters after 0.1.1? I guess at least more monsters in maps means it can still proc on native monsters and explode the deli monsters, but it feels a lot worse to clear deli maps without it working.
Yeah, it's a bummer.
Deli mobs leave no corpses so i dont think on death explosions will ever work? But if you have coursing currents on charged staff and extra shock chance herald of thunder clears them out pretty gud
The thing that I got stuck on every league in PoE1 and with EA for PoE2 is getting *started* into a farming strat. I love the idea of running the content to improve the content via their drops, I think that's a great loop. But I finally got my first Simulacrum just yesterday. I know it's because I wasn't juicing my maps. But I wasn't juicing cause I felt I wasn't strong enough. So I didn't have the currency to improve my gear quickly. A not so great loop. There's some deficiency in my education of what to do post-campaign but pre-T4 content.
So that's all to share a video suggestion: What is the progression from nothing (ie League Start) into your points? Or, to put it another way, What's a 0-point farming plan to get your League Atlas trees started out?
Love the content! Thanks!
Great suggestion!
Bro this is the most concise absolutely important point. These vids are always like "oh this is only 12 divines..Pick this node that's 36 passive points away...run simulacrums to farm"
Like I'm finally generating wealth some now but I had to fill in a lot of gaps myself and there's not a lot of good info for complete laymen beginners or slow farmers
Would be such a good series
Happy birthday Path of Evening (:
now i know what those slots from the delirium tab does, hold maps apparently
In case you did not mention it or I missed it, everyone should be running the Instilled maps in Towers. The Towers are dropping a very healthy amount of splinters and makes the normally useless tower maps much nicer to run
Not sure if you’re aware of how much currency you’re sitting on since you’re enormous pile of emotions can be upgraded at the reforging bench. They work like tiers wherein Ire is the lowest and upgrades to guilt and so forth. Thanks for the video!
That's all total not even one max tier emotion. Exponential growth is deceptively fast. I'd guess that's around 200 exalts total in emotions in the tab.
@@TimoRutanen Right I understand 3 to 1 rolling. That's still a nice chunk.
Always a good thing to consider, but yeah, even a mountain of low-end emotions isn't really worth all that much in terms of Exalts.
Im finding waystone drop chance effect how many splitners im getting out of the maps, im just slamming maps to 6 affixes and running rare monster insitlls and getting 70-90 spliters per map when i corrupt them to be above 400% waystone drop chance
It definitely scales with Delirium value, as well (got over 110 from a single tower map that was +90% Delirious).
@PathofEvening 100% it very well could be placebo of more map juice = more spliters.
But definitely feel like I make back the 2-3 ex spent slamming each map on spliters
Tower maps have felt surprisingly good for spliter drops for me as well its great
You can reforge oils into higher one (without gamble like with essences, just 3-to-1 sure deal)
Breach is still king i think also Rituals are good now they reward omens alot so it's easy to craft OP items now.
7 rituals, all reroled, 1 omen. did like 40 rituals, never seen audience with a king
@@Lostforface 10 Ritual 2 div + 3 king defer. RNJ + U NEED 8POINT ALL MECHANIC
Rituals are decent.
Heya! What actually impacts the amount of splinters dropped in an instilled map? Does pack size, quant or map tier?
Deliriousness and map tier are most important. Having more monsters to kill helps, so pack size is okay. Quant seems to have no/little effect.
@ thank you for the reply!!
Please do another build update and showcase video. How your build changes from the 10 div blaster. Im atm playing the same build and i love it
Done: ruclips.net/video/WPPaGFyJpYY/видео.html
Working on our next update, as well!
If your poor would running the increase to magic monsters be the best substitute? For instillations on maps
Yes
Absolutely, that's a good option for a very cheap setup.
4:23 the music sounds ripped from Castle Crashers lol. First act of that game where you run through the woods away from enemies has the same chords and everything
It's the (current) Lioneye's Watch soundtrack from PoE 1!
Great vid. Would love to have these without music, lot better for listening as a relaxing podcast for sleep!
You're the first to ever request that. Our videos are geared towards blasting not sleeping.
withe the last left side node, why is it a bad thing if the fog doesnt move? you can still end the fog yourself when youve done what you can do in the map.
It will just freeze like 10% of the way into a map and not continue to fill it.
@@PathofEvening that makes sense, i guess i havent seen enough delerium mirrors to understand how it works. i've definitely had a couple of maps that i ran out of fog a few seconds in.
@@Menaceofri2 just so you know in the future. Delirium fog spreads from the mirror point in a sort of doughnut shape. So a band of fog will move outward from the mirror. Pausing the fog indefinitely essentially bricks the delirium, as it will stop moving, and stop spawning mobs to up your reward points
Can someone explain what his left mouse click skill is? I see this little feet thing everywhere, but can never find any info about it.
@@David_Odie walk its make you walk you can assign it like assign skill just press the skill icon in that left click icon
Yup. It's walk.
Thanks for the vid!! Did they nerfed the simulacrum ? i want to try it but before the patch it was very hard from stage 11-12
It's easier now, but still not easy.
@@danielelia2256 It's the same, insane mods at 11 stage and beyond, invincible mobs spawned IN you directly and rares with manaburn and haste and other insane mods spawned exactly in you there's no chance to finish it unless 200 div gear or ultra meta broken builds that have insane damage from broken interactions
@@kazmaahr yes I tried it first time with one of my friend and we literally got one shooted at stage 11 once and 12 too then I tried it alone same shit, it's a shame because I need those delirium points... Is there a carry possible? If I die during the event will I receive the point?
How does one make a map delirious? Like with the emotion not the mirror
Right click and emotion to bring up the UI. It's the same one as for anointing necklaces.
See above
Can someone help me understand how to get this going? I’m clearing t15, and I only have like 12 shards and haven’t found any delerium tablets. How am I supposed to get enough to get started? He didn’t go over this at all, and it’s the hardest part… like this assumes you’re already going. I have maybe 4 total emotions, and get 2-4 splinters and 2-4 emotions per natural delirium map. I have maybe a couple hours to play at a time, and on that I might only find a handful max of natural mirrors
Do a diffrence strat until you have the currency to get this strat started. Something simple like trial of chaos will work only 1 ex entry fee but there's other stuff you cam do as well
It is a video geared towards high-end farming. We have videos for people just getting started, but that's not this one.
buy the simu stone and get the first 2 points into get out of my head, then run the distilled waystones that u got. U can easily ramp up the splinters
What do you think about doing anointed ritual maps?
They're good!
Just anoint for backside it has the best synergy with ritual
Hey bro whats better chaos farming or breach? I find breach farming a bit tidous and im capped at 110 rarity right now until i can get nice rings
It is tedious but it is better.
im only getting 30 or so a map. did they nerf? am i doing something wrong?
No nerfs. Deliriousness is the key to getting more splinters.
I spotted the tab naming thing ;)
It's full of map things!
Ice is not expanding delirium mobs right? Because they are not 'bodies'?
Is that right?
I have an ice based build so I'm wondering if that's good for Delirium
Correct.
Yup, that's right.
Paranoia has been spiking up to 4ex or even 5ex lately and will likely go higher. Do you think you are getting 15ex more out of a map from using it?
In a really spicy map, yeah. Without good prefixes and tablets, absolutely not.
Only use paranoia on your best maps that rolled alot of increases rares or quantity already in super juiced areas. It's only worth it to run it on the juices imo
Is simulacrum nerfed properly? Could not do it on my characters before patch
It's easier, but still not easy.
Dang i didn't know storm wave was so strong. How good is your gear?
He has an earlier video for his Gemling Legionnaire. Stat stacking multiplies his AOE and Lightning Damage.
Very good as well as what's mentioned above
Are we talking buff to deli mirror only or deli map. Deli map didn’t look or feel buffed.
Maps are buffed. So Deli is then buffed
Thats not an opinion, just an observation of the market... and its by no means ideal but the game is balanced around preventing the sweatlords from entirely ruining the economy in 15mins, if there was a way to farm without time invested it would be abused
Huh.
That's why properly balanced daily quests should be a thing.
@@PathofEveningI'm lost as well
Never played the first game. Just starting the end game grind. I have no idea what this guy is talking about. How do I get delirium maps?
Delirium can randomly appear on map nodes throughout the atlas.
Does rarity work in simulacrum?
doesn't seem to
The strategy really hasn’t changed. Juice quant on towers and stack rare monsters for breach. They nerfed Breach sooooo hard. Had a 300 quant 3x breach and it was empty affff
Yeah, you definitely still want to do both when possible.
4:00 sounds like MTx idea
They fixed the bug you mentioned in the patch irc
The opposite, actually. They hotfixed it before the patch, then brought it back with 0.1.1. Whoops.
It would be awesome if I could get more than 3 fragments per map to actually get my points...
RNG
It feels like they removed half of creeps from maps 😕😑
YA
I wish we could turn off that fog..
Bro I cant even do tier 1 simulacrum, getting destroyed by tier ~10-11
Simulacrum is REALLY challenging defensively, and requires a very different approach from mapping. Appreciate the inspiration for a future video!
funny gameplay in the background, hope something like this would not exists on the release and you have to actually play the game. But ggg could never =\
Maybe this game isn't your jam, but it's still a work in progress
Deli is not good. I’m sorry I really tried
Ok
"catalysts are worthless"
Maybe it is when you can no-life the game and get to farm endgame content all day. Most players can't (and won't) do that.
The content creators for this game really need to get down from their cloud, where they think the 1% top players is representative of the entire community: they're not. It wasn't true for PoE1 and it's EVEN LESS true for PoE2 and its massive success.
Most players never got to gather more than 50ex. Or even seen a divine drop.
Lol but its really worthless lmao just check the price of catalyst its not even worth picking up
50ex is literally nothing. git gud noob
More than 50ex? Are you trolling? You can easily do that without trying lol. Honestly, the majority of players can manage that and if you can't, it's literally a skill issue.
To be honest with you, it is really easy to have a good char with decent gear to clear t15 maps, especially in this EA. Therefore you can easily do breaches and have plenty of catalysts that, yes, are worthless.
You dont need to no-life to explode mobs with one of the dozens of OP builds out there.
If you don't gather more than 50 ex you are not even playing the game.
Play the game at your own pace and have fun, but please try to be real, catalysts are extremely easy to get and yes, they are worthless in the current economy and state of the game.
Peace.
Just get a stack of them for 1 ex. Catalysts are in abundance