@@G82Jesse I did yesterday two simulacrums by myself, but failed like 8 of them and i'm playing LA deadeye with heralds so my build basically don't work there :D
My CI monk has done all breach and ritual bosses and T18s. Yet I tried simulacrum 0 three times and got clapped on wave 13 The mobs instantly become immortal, and since they have no corpses I can’t get herald pops. Almost tempted to just buy a carry for all 8 pts cuz holy fk
@@mystx5358 same here, i heard tuna talk about bluff in the last maxroll podcast and been farming bluff a bit myself until i had enough for 1 simulacrum. tried running it and it went very smooth until wave 13 where i dced and when i relogged i got oneshot by both minibosses with +50% monster damager and crit multi mod lol
If they nerf this: This strategy works on crimson shores, linear layout - of note - THE LAST RARE IS ALWAYS AT THE END OF THE MAP SITTING ON A DOCK! (aka dont kill it)
another awesome map for this that is nearly identical to bluff, just a bit longer is ravine. a bit rare on the atlas but when u find one you can run it an unlimited amount of time just like bluff
Ive been running sinking spire as its a swap biome, so the 50% increased currency node works. The layout is fine as you just go in a circle around the spire and find a door
the reason is because people play poe for the drops and not the gameplay. if it were a drug, you would take the highway to your drug dealer and not winding around the backroads.
you could invest 1 point in the biom buff on atlas. This map is gras and have a higher chance to drop greater jewellers. I have the sam strat but I use other maps because they are bigger so I get for one deli waystone. But Bluff is very nice too.
Nice workaround for repeating maps. Wish I’d thought of it. I hadn’t tested it specifically, but it sure seems like quantity roll from precursors affects the number of splinter drops a little.
What im wandering is if running the other tower on the swamp biome would produce enough currency through Local Knowledge. Its not as linear but its still a better layout than most maps
Just run it on your juiced maps with league mechanics you enjoy(ex. Breach) and you will get extra profits per map. This way you will not burn out from just running 1 map layout
Do you have an export of your build by chance? I am running a (very low budget) stat stacking invoker myself and I’d be curious how you balance crit vs attributes on your tree to take advantage of the ele pen for crits. Much appreciated!!
This is good strat but i feel like normal deli mapping can be better you can still be pretty fast but also since this strat doesent rely on towers much you can just beeline citadels and make mad divines from splinters plus citadels.
Do you know if towers tablet modifiers work on one another? From hovering on the atlas, the tablet effects do appear, I am just not sure if they actually apply to towers. There are two notable mod-lines that seem like they would work despite no mirror: (5-10)% increased Stack size of Simulacrum Splinters found in your Maps Delirium Monsters in your Maps have (5-10)% increased Pack Size If these actually work getting a Bluff in the middle of like 5+ towers would be huge, basically infinite tablet once you set it up
I'm convinced local knowledge is a bait node. I never saw any benefits of using it on grass biomes for 2 weeks. not a single greater jewellers orb, when i removed it and played naturally, I started seeing the orbs.
@@Resouler nice one, I'm going to get my first 2 sets of points for delirium today and then I'll try local knowledge on bluff for an hour or 2 and see what happens, even if just greater orbs.
Do you know what is the rule on how many distilled emotions you can add on them? Some maps will not add any, even the delirious % is low, but some with high default can let me add 3, it's so confusing.
There can only be 3 emotions per map but sometimes a map will drop high deli percent but only 1 emotion and in that case you could add 2 emotions if it drops with 2 emotions and High deli percent you can add 1 emotion
Hey tuna love your content, and great video as usual. Had a quick question if you had the time. I got my first points...but I got like a 50div build and I was stressed out and sweating beating it. How much harder is lvl 2 in your opinion?
I think I'm gonna just try to set up a bluff with a bunch of quant and rarity towers around and not run delirum just to use my lousy rolled corrupted maps (burning ground, ailment threshold) and maybe get some divines. I hate dying in breaches on those mods and id feel way better losing those maps with no "things*".
From the points in atlas delirium part. But someone need to carry you on simulacrum. Also you can instill emotions on map to add more % depending on what how much your map is instill when you get it. It can have 3 emotions max. Did you watch the video?
How do you get the distilled emotions if you don't run mirror , to run the maps. Can you sustain with the waystone drops or do you just use the currency exchange
if u have the points in delirium, there's a node that drops delirious maps when you play on delirious maps(i think deli mirrors count too idk). there's a chance you gett the goodies like 100% deli maps or some shit
Isnt there some long layout regular map that competes or possibly beats bluff? I saw some other video a while back with someone spamming the samr map just for the exp
Are you resetting the instance to run it again? If yes how are you doing that. And you’re absolutely correct the map layouts in this game are atrocious and not fun. Everything is an obstacle. Had to walk through Mire for over a minute yesterday to get the last rare.
@@dpolenz79 its only doable with delirium cuz of maps being able to have the mechanic on them (the waystone) and not the node on the atlas, which is consumed once you enter, if there where a way to add "one additional breach" to waystones it would be posible.
@shneef4127 yeah I did that for a bit, just got burnt out on it. I like ultimatum more. I just like this strategy because it's very consistent, plus I'm trying to farm the mana pot anyway, so I sell one run one.
Guys, just dont try this unless u playing flurry or temporalis. Its better to run breaches. And even if u do playing one of these, i still doubt about this, breach maps usually gives tons of raw divs and nice equip, and with this strat u will definitely drop the market so...
I really dislike the way they made atlas passive points tied to spending TONS of divines on boss invitations. Even getting a carry on tft for all simulacrum points is 6 div+
Gone next hotfix probably, sadly. Because this does look like a fun and relaxing strat. I am also very exhausted by the amount of bad layouts in mapping.
Any sort of strat or tech I see on youtube theres always comments like this. This doesnt even seem broken and you think its instantly getting hotfixed? These devs must have traumatized the playerbase in the past if this is how everyone thinks. If everything will just get nerfed into the ground im definitely not playing this game long
NGL, I'm really sick of shit layouts. It's not fun, it doesn't add anything to the game, they're not nice to look at, they're not nice to path on, they're just shit. And now we're forced to run them.. Literally weirdest decision ever. I now just sit in my hideout flipping shit because mapping is so draining hoping one day they change it hahaha
This has nothing to do with divines going up. They go up over time regardless, but the recent spike is probably due to the mirror duping thing that happened recently.
7 splinters without the atlas points for simulacrum lmao.. ugh... how the fuck do i farm tol get simulacrum i got to run 30 of these maps? LMAO got 4 from my next one. . . . . . ? ?? ? ? ? ?? ? ?
perk giving you 30% more odds depending on terrain you're currently on (water,swamp,desert,etc) is not picked. Immediately stopped watching. Here is method how they really do it: gather party of leechers, do delirum + breach, if you get 4-6 breeches per map, you have huge odds to drop a div or two. On average such leech party drops one div per map.
@xAndrzej42 yeah I never said it stops you from dropping them completely of course you can still get them but it's been tested and you coulda potentially dropped more divines if you turned it off when your out of the swamp biome. It's really good if your diligent about remembering to turn it off whenever your not inna swamp.
No it helps even more because since you can't juice you need as much base rarity so increase your divine drop chance if your gonna run this strategy alot. but youn can still make hella from this strat without rarity it will def be a big help over a large sample size
Id prefer a lower income strat which requires little to no prep over a much higher income strat where I would have to break my head (I used to run juiced breaches before)
There is only one problem: you need to complete simulacrum xD
dont worry, after this video in 2 days a simulacrum gonna cost 30/40ex
@@otamuralha706 also u need to enjoy clicking forward for hours, this is literally no playing at all
@@G82Jesse I did yesterday two simulacrums by myself, but failed like 8 of them and i'm playing LA deadeye with heralds so my build basically don't work there :D
My CI monk has done all breach and ritual bosses and T18s.
Yet I tried simulacrum 0 three times and got clapped on wave 13
The mobs instantly become immortal, and since they have no corpses I can’t get herald pops.
Almost tempted to just buy a carry for all 8 pts cuz holy fk
@@mystx5358 same here, i heard tuna talk about bluff in the last maxroll podcast and been farming bluff a bit myself until i had enough for 1 simulacrum. tried running it and it went very smooth until wave 13 where i dced and when i relogged i got oneshot by both minibosses with +50% monster damager and crit multi mod lol
If they nerf this: This strategy works on crimson shores, linear layout - of note - THE LAST RARE IS ALWAYS AT THE END OF THE MAP SITTING ON A DOCK! (aka dont kill it)
yeah that rare is always on the small dock, good idea.
another awesome map for this that is nearly identical to bluff, just a bit longer is ravine. a bit rare on the atlas but when u find one you can run it an unlimited amount of time just like bluff
sandspit aswell
Awesome idea - no more crappy layouts which were the biggest turnoff for me about the game.
Ive been running sinking spire as its a swap biome, so the 50% increased currency node works.
The layout is fine as you just go in a circle around the spire and find a door
Tuna says this is a good strat but I think he's bluffing
to think that after poe1 jungle valley prison we'll still do anything to play one layout repeatedly
prison? we call it home
Now that's delirious
the reason is because people play poe for the drops and not the gameplay. if it were a drug, you would take the highway to your drug dealer and not winding around the backroads.
@@mattcline_take the long way home
IF it were a drug? A lot of us are pretty addicted to this "non-drug". ;)
you could invest 1 point in the biom buff on atlas. This map is gras and have a higher chance to drop greater jewellers. I have the sam strat but I use other maps because they are bigger so I get for one deli waystone. But Bluff is very nice too.
apparently the node shifts your weight tho so you get less currency drops, so never take the node unless water/swamp biome
@LOUDKiDx yeah it's not worth using anything but the basic currency one
It worked incredibly well for me, I just got a perfect jeweller orb from this strat.
@@LOUDKiDx it was worth a few days ago when perfect was worth more than a divine, now im not too sure lmao
@@HiYuhSynthesis perfect is only 1 div now? lol
Nice workaround for repeating maps. Wish I’d thought of it. I hadn’t tested it specifically, but it sure seems like quantity roll from precursors affects the number of splinter drops a little.
Based tuna actually saving the endgame, I wasn’t gonna play until the next reset.
This looks like an actual fun mapping strat. Thanks
As soon as the patch dropped, I ran Mesa first, then bluff. I’ve not left bluff since.
@@JayBills3 based
What im wandering is if running the other tower on the swamp biome would produce enough currency through Local Knowledge. Its not as linear but its still a better layout than most maps
saw the maxroll podcast and i am doing this to actually run my oversustained t15s
I missed this gameplay aswell thanks man
man has exquisite taste in the game
Did this without any points for simulacrum and got a divine orb and a perfect jewelers orb in 2 hours. You are GOATED
Just run it on your juiced maps with league mechanics you enjoy(ex. Breach) and you will get extra profits per map. This way you will not burn out from just running 1 map layout
This is awesome, why didn’t I think of this. Appreciate it
did you move your divines and mirrors to a hidden tab before recording?
build link?
Colorful Distilled emotions in this game remind me of Colored Emotions by Night Moves. Worth a listen!
I just wish they gave us favorite maps again, this is the true fun, not playing 1 good layout only to run a mire and algury
Do you have an export of your build by chance? I am running a (very low budget) stat stacking invoker myself and I’d be curious how you balance crit vs attributes on your tree to take advantage of the ele pen for crits.
Much appreciated!!
have u thought about the ravine map? I used it to power level my alts. One rare is always at the end of it. Very simple linear map.
Could I do this strat to get my first simulacrum ?
Well well well... I expect this is an oversight on GGG's part. Get in while you can fellas.
How do you take all Exalts from Alva Currency Exchange into your inventory at once?
Tyvm 4 this. Bad layouts are a burden 😢
Close enough. Welcome back Legion Dunes.
so just dont click the precurser map and slot in a new tablet to reset the map yeah?
@@vb2534 yep
Thanks Tuna!
This is good strat but i feel like normal deli mapping can be better you can still be pretty fast but also since this strat doesent rely on towers much you can just beeline citadels and make mad divines from splinters plus citadels.
I really need to get those Atlas points somehow
What’re you using to price check everything?
Bluff is also the best map in the game, by far.
ravine is awesome too
what is that weapon effect
Been driving me nuts. I wanna know too. I see everyone running it
Don't listen to Tuna. He's bluffing!
Any updates to the best atlas tree setup?
how many per simulacrum ticket can you generate per hour ?
How do you not get stuck at narrow ways while tempest striking?
Do you know if towers tablet modifiers work on one another? From hovering on the atlas, the tablet effects do appear, I am just not sure if they actually apply to towers.
There are two notable mod-lines that seem like they would work despite no mirror:
(5-10)% increased Stack size of Simulacrum Splinters found in your Maps
Delirium Monsters in your Maps have (5-10)% increased Pack Size
If these actually work getting a Bluff in the middle of like 5+ towers would be huge, basically infinite tablet once you set it up
They apply to towers but are one time use so are not fit for this strategy unfortunately.
@ right, completely forgot bonuses get consumed on towers as well on entry
anyone know what weapon skin hes using?
I saw you discuss this strategy on blastcast and tried to follow it in ssf 🎉 maybe ill get the mana flask soon cheers
Good luck
I miss PoE 1
Me too
... you can go play it right now?
@ I like when the market is alive, im a softcore player.
I miss pre-T17 poe 1, now im feeling kinda lost...
i think Mesa is a bit faster because its a smaller map, also its shaped like atoll so its as ez to run.
What type of biome is Mesa? Biome type is very relevant
i recommend local knowledge, bluff is grass, can hunt for the perfect jeweler too :P
I'm convinced local knowledge is a bait node. I never saw any benefits of using it on grass biomes for 2 weeks. not a single greater jewellers orb, when i removed it and played naturally, I started seeing the orbs.
@@smezbuilds9897 idk i just dropd a perfect , its not a big increase lets be real but its something
@@Resouler nice one, I'm going to get my first 2 sets of points for delirium today and then I'll try local knowledge on bluff for an hour or 2 and see what happens, even if just greater orbs.
Do you know what is the rule on how many distilled emotions you can add on them? Some maps will not add any, even the delirious % is low, but some with high default can let me add 3, it's so confusing.
There can only be 3 emotions per map but sometimes a map will drop high deli percent but only 1 emotion and in that case you could add 2 emotions if it drops with 2 emotions and High deli percent you can add 1 emotion
do i need magic find to do this????
Deli splinters are not influenced by MF.
That's one interesting looking monk. Would you terribly mind sharing the build?
Here's a quick rundown of the build:
500 divines
@@kazmaahr Or, about 1500-3000 of these bluff runs
Will this survive though?
Hey tuna love your content, and great video as usual. Had a quick question if you had the time. I got my first points...but I got like a 50div build and I was stressed out and sweating beating it. How much harder is lvl 2 in your opinion?
What a great strat! I hope GGG doesn't it nerf it......
I think I'm gonna just try to set up a bluff with a bunch of quant and rarity towers around and not run delirum just to use my lousy rolled corrupted maps (burning ground, ailment threshold) and maybe get some divines. I hate dying in breaches on those mods and id feel way better losing those maps with no "things*".
The tower buffs get consumed on entry so this won't work unfortunately
@@stoplosinglilboy1461 Ahh bummer. I wasn't sure how it worked on failed/rerun. I normally just run maps with "things" on them lol.
how tf you get delirium on waystones?! what the frick
From the points in atlas delirium part. But someone need to carry you on simulacrum. Also you can instill emotions on map to add more % depending on what how much your map is instill when you get it. It can have 3 emotions max. Did you watch the video?
does the more increased simulacrum work with maps with delirious on them only and not going for delirum map
Correct
Where can i find this build?
How do you get the distilled emotions if you don't run mirror , to run the maps. Can you sustain with the waystone drops or do you just use the currency exchange
Yea u sustain with currency. 1 exalt is 18382891 distilled ires. Is crazy cheap. Waystones are more expensive tbh
yea just buy distilled with alva.
bro i acc cant get tier 11+ delirium maps lmao they always lower when im running T15
Hang on a second....how did you actually reset the map? You didn't complete it, but what do you do after that to reset the map?
@@WildVii you just put a new map in
@@CrouchingTuna Got it! I completely missed the last bit in the video where you just put in a new map. Thanks!
How do you reset the map after porting out ?
Click on it in the atlas and add a new map.
Genius!!!
For those who think this is a bad idea please keep doing that so GGG wont touch the strat. Thanks
what build is that? got a link for it?
This is great!
Any tips on how to find delirius maps? Mine only always have at most 30% Delirious
if u have the points in delirium, there's a node that drops delirious maps when you play on delirious maps(i think deli mirrors count too idk). there's a chance you gett the goodies like 100% deli maps or some shit
@@tempest-2124 I got the node but guess I wasn't lucky yet
How is he moving so fast when attacking?
a lot of atk speed to get that movement speed, he use astramantis amulet so probably around 800 dex and around 1k int
thank you!
Isnt there some long layout regular map that competes or possibly beats bluff? I saw some other video a while back with someone spamming the samr map just for the exp
if you accidentally kill all rares its gone :c
most likelby wuld have been ravine
Fmmthe boss talent works in Jon mirro r map too
Wut
Seems good if you don't care about exp but giving up the ability to run 80+ zones is too much of a downside in the high 90s.
Good luck even completing a t0 simulacrum
*may-suh
GORGE!
Are you resetting the instance to run it again? If yes how are you doing that. And you’re absolutely correct the map layouts in this game are atrocious and not fun. Everything is an obstacle. Had to walk through Mire for over a minute yesterday to get the last rare.
Just do not touch the tablet at the end of the map and it doesn't complete so you can re-run it indefinitely
@ does this work with any map? Can I run breach Savannah all day long?
@@dpolenz79 he explain in the vids, technically you can but you have to let the final rare alive and leave the maps.
@ ok I missed that part. I’ll rewatch. Thank you.
@@dpolenz79 its only doable with delirium cuz of maps being able to have the mechanic on them (the waystone) and not the node on the atlas, which is consumed once you enter, if there where a way to add "one additional breach" to waystones it would be posible.
Brother noooooo. This isn't going to work now. It's either gonna get fixed or flooded with so many people it's not profitable anymore. Uggghhhh
Good thing i farm sanctum and make good currency from there. No need to even worry about other peoples strats bc sanctum is always reliable
@shneef4127 yeah I did that for a bit, just got burnt out on it. I like ultimatum more. I just like this strategy because it's very consistent, plus I'm trying to farm the mana pot anyway, so I sell one run one.
I just join a “your xp my loot” group, let them kill everything and loot all the currency items till they kick me.
Guys, just dont try this unless u playing flurry or temporalis. Its better to run breaches. And even if u do playing one of these, i still doubt about this, breach maps usually gives tons of raw divs and nice equip, and with this strat u will definitely drop the market so...
breach is so ass ngl hate sifting through it if you get a 10 breach map
What build are you playing?
Looks like gemling stat stacker.
im pretty sure they patched this. I cant distill maps that dropped with delrium...
You still can it depends how deli mods it has
Great, now the bluff maps are goibg to be more expensive.
The good old days :(
RIP PoE aka ARPGs in general
You cannot buy "bluff" maps, "bluff" is like biomes where it is specific to the map on the atlas and not the waystone
@@cavebestiam4578yes, thank you for explaining the joke.
Lol
@@joshuahensley9395 my bad xd, with the amount of comments that genuinely dont know some mechanics i cant tell truth apart from sarcasm anymore.
I really dislike the way they made atlas passive points tied to spending TONS of divines on boss invitations. Even getting a carry on tft for all simulacrum points is 6 div+
Gone next hotfix probably, sadly. Because this does look like a fun and relaxing strat. I am also very exhausted by the amount of bad layouts in mapping.
Any sort of strat or tech I see on youtube theres always comments like this. This doesnt even seem broken and you think its instantly getting hotfixed? These devs must have traumatized the playerbase in the past if this is how everyone thinks. If everything will just get nerfed into the ground im definitely not playing this game long
Rip simulacrum prices lmao
NGL, I'm really sick of shit layouts. It's not fun, it doesn't add anything to the game, they're not nice to look at, they're not nice to path on, they're just shit.
And now we're forced to run them.. Literally weirdest decision ever. I now just sit in my hideout flipping shit because mapping is so draining hoping one day they change it hahaha
no wonder divine is going up like crazy
This has nothing to do with divines going up. They go up over time regardless, but the recent spike is probably due to the mirror duping thing that happened recently.
BluffING
walking around the shit layouts is my most hated part of the game. thank you
You didn't explain what you do to reset the monsters? Do you fire up a different map and then just return there instead?
so your currency strat is to just kill mobs? wow? What am i missing here
7 splinters without the atlas points for simulacrum lmao.. ugh... how the fuck do i farm tol get simulacrum i got to run 30 of these maps? LMAO got 4 from my next one. . . . . . ? ?? ? ? ? ?? ? ?
we get tolerable tower layouts and it gets instantly abused ... GGG will learn from this and unfun all layouts again /s
Game sucks atm, I'm gong back to poe
perk giving you 30% more odds depending on terrain you're currently on (water,swamp,desert,etc) is not picked. Immediately stopped watching.
Here is method how they really do it: gather party of leechers, do delirum + breach, if you get 4-6 breeches per map, you have huge odds to drop a div or two. On average such leech party drops one div per map.
That node is ass 😂 literally lowers your currency drops unless your in a swamp but you do I guess
@@stoplosinglilboy1461 doubt, dropped few divs outside of swamp or water too.
@@xAndrzej42 bro noone wants to invite leechers and shit we just want to kill monsters and chill
@xAndrzej42 yeah I never said it stops you from dropping them completely of course you can still get them but it's been tested and you coulda potentially dropped more divines if you turned it off when your out of the swamp biome. It's really good if your diligent about remembering to turn it off whenever your not inna swamp.
Idk why people say sims are overtuned Ive been running +4s for ages on hc - as long as you spec your tree to be tanky enough it is never a problem
simulacrum is overtuned dog wash
Get a better build then.
Prolly another good thing about this that rarity does not even really help with this farm I guess?
No it helps even more because since you can't juice you need as much base rarity so increase your divine drop chance if your gonna run this strategy alot. but youn can still make hella from this strat without rarity it will def be a big help over a large sample size
I think you might have just killed simulacrum prices ;)
No it went up more
@GigaChadJecht makes sense! Give it 2 days ;)
I love how many poe 1 OGs are the biggest whiners about map layouts...
thanks for ruining it for us, now everyone knows :)
Thanks for the strat bro. You may now delete this video, thanks.
It's only like 3-4d/h so not worth the time
Id prefer a lower income strat which requires little to no prep over a much higher income strat where I would have to break my head (I used to run juiced breaches before)
the other divs are spent on enjoyment (-8
@@immortal7669 well depends on class and build, I didn't die single time past 2 weeks and I'm running max possible juiced maps making 10-15d/h
@@damianklecha339 Share your strats
3-4 div are 600-800 ex ^^