2:08 "Boring" is good. Totally disagree about adding different textures and extra crap to the design. There are plenty of those types in the market already . I want simple and plain.
yeah great case for those who doesn't wanna see their pc parts, it's like hyte revolt or velka or nzxt h1 etc. Still gonna stick with meshlicious, great view and compatibility.
For me the dust filtration while sustaining airflow is the key task of the case. Without the dust filtration I can equally put the hardware into a fully open frame or whatever box and have the same result. Or Mount the Hardware to the wall full open.
I've been running a meshlicious for around a year without cleaning with negative airflow and there's almost zero dust. Mesh is so dense it doesn't need filters.
@@MrDutch1e I've been running an open pc mounted on a frame for around half a year, I tried cleaning it with compressed air multiple times but nothing comes out every time I try. I don't clean it anymore. The dust issue depends a lot on the environment. My room is clean enough for open pc.
@@MrDutch1e dust is literally smaller than 500nm Wich is like 0.0005mm big there’s no way they could make such small holes maybe you just don’t have much dust at home
Case doesn't require a riser based on the motherboard mounting. The price of the case should have been around the 109.99 price point. The case depth should have been increased by 25-50 mm to allow for fans and a 3 slot gpu as well as provide a chamber to route the PSU cable inside. The top magnetic cover could have covered and allowed access and the top of the case could have had a gromet to bring the cable inside. This should have shipped with all of the QX line as I will say building with the new proprietary cable made wire management a breeze even if most of the RGB view is limited.
@@zyzzyx914 you're talking about niche companies that don't have Corsair's reputation and probably won't sell as many units. Getting their tooling costs back is going to be harder than for a company the size of Corsair.
@@TheRealExbit I also would have preferred that the motherboard I/O would come out of the top instead of the bottom for easier access, like most other rotated layout cases.
I totally agree. The fact that they dont even give the exact gpu width dimensions on their website or even in the manual, tells me that they're trying to not bring attention to that part.
I did a build with this system using a PA 120 SE w/ noctua fans tuned to max 1250rpm and Asus Tuf 3090. I have 3 arctic p12s at 800rpm at the front. Its decently silent tuned this way. AMA. He is right though about the GPU airflow being odd. I pulled the filter and it did cool off a lot. In my case i'm using an asus Tuf 3090 in silent mode setting and it is much quieter with the filter at the back pulled off. My temps running simple heaven benchmark is around 70c with gpu fans coasting around 1250rpm. Otherwise, it would eventually ramp up to 2k rpm at a higher temp. An odd thing about this case is that the way the gpu heat comes off of the gpu, it likes to come out in all directions. I can feel cool intake via the back and heat pops out the sides and top. The top interior though is a solid piece of metal so the heat spreads out through the top of the case. Even though there is a mesh top panel it doesn't really help the heat escape. They need to redesign it with holes and maybe a mount so that you could put some giant fan up top to help exhaust out the top as an option. Especially it seems length isn't a super big deal vs thickness for gpus. I eventually will put in a 4090FE so i'm guessing i can reverse the top 1 or 2 front fans and hope it blows out the hot air out front and let the bottom fan push in something to the cpu area. PROS: looks/style, front panel, footprint, no riser needed vs something like meshilicious, h1, hyte CONS: feels cheap weird design choices at the top of the case
Oof. The case size is intriguing because it can (should) fit more components, but I'll wait for the updated version if Corsair decides to stick with SFX.
Unless I’m mistaken Origin sells a prebuilt using this case and JayzTwoCents did a review on it about 7-8 months ago and in that video with a 4080 founders and 13900k his temps were 80 and 75 C on cpu/gpu which for those components are pretty good in a sff build. Not sure why your temps were so off with lower spec components. I’d still consider this as a pontential case for a build if I were going sff
I love the main idea of this case, but the execution seems like a conjunction of many afterthoughts. 1. Why no cable ties when the case is huge inside? 2. Why make the psu cable routed outside if there’s a load of space inside? 3. Why make a mesh top but the wall underneath not perforated? 4. Why make the back look like a bottom, have punched holes where feet could go, but not allow a horizontal mount? (Just a guess) 5. Why charge such a high price, but then have the outside be completely plastic in comparison to every other “D Airflow” series case ?
1. Company preference (money) 2. It'd be more excess internal cable management. The point is that there is a LOT of space not taken up by wires going everywhere. 3. Aesthetics. 4. Soley designed to be vertical. 5. It's Corsair, isn't that expensive compared to other ITX cases, and it has a plastic shroud because getting some of those inset lines on the case shroud are near impossible to be mass-manufactured with metal, however the plastic is not low quality or thin whatsoever.
It's really sad that case manufacturers are giving us genuine, interesting innovations just as the graphics card manufacturers and motherboard manufacturers are doing their level best to destroy the entire hobby of PC building.
The PC hobby just can't catch a break man. First it was bitcoin mining ruining the prices, then RAM was impossible to get at a decent price, silicone shortage, and now nvidia is deciding to self destruct. It's so close to being the golden age of PC building but we can't get there
@@qwuzzy AMD is complicit in this too. They benefit from changing the norm of GPU prices just as much as Nvidia. Sure, they sell cheaper GPUs than Nvidia but they certainly aren't trying to return the prices of GPUs to the older days. Intel aren't saints but we really need them to exert some pressure in the GPU space.
at least ram prices and storage prices are rock bottom right now to offset the cost. also unless you you have the absolute top trim graphics cards their no reason to buy more than an i5 or a 6 core ryzen at the moment.
They should have used a thicker panel for the GPU side. If they had gone with, say, 1.5mm steel, they could have used a significantly more open configuration of the holes without compromising structural integrity. Not a terrible case, but I definitely think that they made some poor choices about where they cut costs.
I dont understand this GPU temps. I have the dustfilter on (have removed the once in front and on the AIO side) and have a stable GPU temp of around 70 celsius. My GPU is a Asus RTX 4070 dual card. intake fans in front are set to 30% becouse of noise and I have a coolermaster ML360 illusion that is set to exhaust. I am over all very satisfied with the case. But there are some things I think they should have made better. I wish they had made it easier to place non slim fans in front the case since its so big allready, a few more millimeters would not had anything to say (Im not really a fan of corsairs fan system and think they are very noisy compared to other fans and I also don't like the software) . I have a motherboard with a m.2 ssd on the back with a heatsink, this won't fit atleast it does not for my Asus ROG X570i so i had to modify the case and cut away a bit. I also wish, like it was said in the video that they would include a extra ssd bracket since it is space for it. The ssupd meshlicious also have the IO pointing down but atleast on the corsair its space for the cables that goes from the GPU. Overall I am more happy with this case then the meshlicious and my overall temps are atleast better on this one. CPU is a AM4 Ryzen 5 5600X.
Whew, beautiful case; even better cinematography on the vlog style sections. You guys are amazing. This reminds me of my NR200 set to "vertical mode", where all the outputs are up top.
I watched over a dozen reviews of this case, this review is the only one that reports high GPU temps. I'm curious why. They all had the aio in exhaust with the three front fans as intake.
You'd think they'd have at least 1 itx enthusiast working at corsair. 25L is massive for itx only board. Just go meshroom or meshlicious. There's so many superior options.
I feel as though Corsair wanted to use a different layout with a riser cable like nzxt which is very reminiscent of but didn’t want to pinch the cable like nzxt & cause a fire hazard, just speculation but possibility who knows
Pros: - Looks nice (from the outside) - Size is perfect, not too big not too small - All panels are removeable for easy access Cons: - Literally everything else. I bought this case (RGB Airflow with fans) and I was shocked, they managed to make all the bad design choices, even the fan cables routing could be much cleaner if the cables were on the other side. I spent ~5 hours assembling my PC inside this case, I can write a book on what they should have done differently. Note that the shell is held by rivets instead of bolts, so if you thought you could flip it or something, you will not be able to do it easily. iCue requires 9pin USB header, check if your motherboard has one, I have Minisforum BD790i so now I have to figure out how to connect it. I would recommend to wait for the second version/revision (if they will make any), or if you really like how it looks and want to buy it then make sure you know what you get... Most tech youtubers can't be trusted because they get paid to advertise stuff and also probably don't take the time to use the item themselves before reading the info points that the sponsor provided them.
Just watched the whole thing, classic itx case from a big manufacturer, bad space optimization and too restrictive airflow :| great review as usual, thanks :)
I built a PC for my wife with this case it has a 3070 Ti in it, no load was the GPU was at 45 C and then under load it was around 60, spiked to 80 but that was the absolute highest it would go under hours of playing. Also for the IO I think once you have everything plugged in it works well, you have Bluetooth and if you need quick access to more USB ports they have USB hubs for that.
I just built a system with this case, and the new icue link system. With some patience, you can route and fit 25 mm fans on the front, but it depends on the ITX Motherboards I/O plate for some clearance. MSI z790i EDGE WiFi GTX 4090 FE SF1000L iCUE LINK H150i RGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler with 3 additional fans. I would highly suggest building or purchasing a custom length ATX 24 pin. Depending on the PSU 100 mm SFXL or 150 mm for SFX to allow easier wire management. So far temps have been decent, and the pc is quiet under medium load.
I had really high hopes for this, but the fact, that it doesn't support 4 slot gpus is unbelievable, considering its size. Like how does this have the same gpu support as a meshlicious?
Meshlicious uses riser, so it optimizes space better. This case is NR200 placed vertically. This layout's biggest plus is compatibility with good air towers and no risers
Look at the nr200P mesh (case and filters) compared to this case and you will see the difference. All mesh is not created equal. GN has pointed this out many times.
External looks, cheap plastic (6/10) Internal design (5/10) Price (5/10) If you want vertical, just buy Meshroom, or just grab the NR200P, so so many case better than this.
The ONLY systems I've ever owned with components that failed (at any point - in or out of warranty) were Corsair Ones. The 1080 in my first gen failed after only a few years. More recently, an a200 experienced pump failure and the warranty replacement took over six weeks to process... oh, and was shipped with Win11 instead of the Win10 that I originally ordered and still prefer. This case initially looks interesting, but the PSU cable "management" on the back and the video I/O are far from optimal. Meanwhile, the lack of a top exhaust fan - you know, 'cuz heat tends to RISE - is just perplexing on a case this size (and at this price). IMHO, Corsair might want to take a look at what they're doing in this space (pre-builts, cases) and make some adjustments to improve quality and function.
Only fits up to 3-slot GPU, I'm using a 3.7-slot RTX 4080, sadly this case is not for me... Using SSUPD Meshroom S but I prefer the non-riser case like this
I feel like the original version of this case was a little better ....it had fan at the top and all the i/o was at the top as well. The velcro straps were for all the cables.
@@elchartps3 What accessing the HDMI, DP, keyboard and mouse needs? It is connected and you leave it like that. Front ports are for sticks and other crap. People are crazed about aesthetics with their RGB sluthouse looks and somehow ignore how ugly the cables coming out from the back are.
Did you test temps with the front set to exhaust and the side rad as intake? In the video the front looks set to intake, which probably isn't helping GPU temps.
Always love your detailed ITX case reviews. I definitely like this style of tall standing ITX cases, but this one is a no go for me - It does look cheap for the price! I like the push-open hinged top panel of the Phanteks Evolv Shift cases with easy access to the I/O Ports - I rather have the MB on top. I just hope Phanteks or other brands release something better, while improving on the GPU cooling and support.
I'm using a Silverstone Alta G1M and this looks similar to that and I really like this kind of form factor that takes up less space on the desk but looking at the io location and quality, i think i'd rather stay with the Alta case for now. Hope more case companies makes these kinds of casings though.
I like the size, but not the price. The O11 air mini supports ATX boards and PSUs, and comes in at a lower price. The 5000d airflow is cheaper and supports bigger gpus. I was interested in moving to this case... Was
Nothing will ever top how insanely awesome the Corsair One was. And while this case is massive for an ITX, it is still very cool of a set up and smaller than an ATX case.
Would be cool to have the motherboard right way up, have the IO in the back and just have the GPU with a riser cable, but that seems to be impossible to engineer in this kind of a case.
Nope. I got this case a week before the release date from a local retailer and it went back the next day. The case poorly space optimized (seriously though, the meshroom can fir a 353mm 4 slot GPU and a 280mm rad), has barely any cable management and has the jankiest PSU cable out I have ever seen on a case. The only things going for it are the 360 rad support and the rgb fans.
Isn't it possible, as you can install the side panels up side down, that the idea is so that the case can be flipped up side down? By moving the legs to the top and installing the side panels up side down?? Would make sense for me to have the IOs on the top, and hanging the GPU is a good thing I would say
Looks like Corsair put their c team to work on this case. Magnets on side panels and open frame design on the GPU side seems like a no brainer, and other manufacturers have been doing it for quite some time now.
I see a number of new cases have USB-C port but do not specify if this port can support USB 3.2 gen 2x2 or USB4. Are all USB-C ports created equal with full support for whatever?
I'm reviewing the new Cobra line from Razer, so deff had to take out the Viper Mini SE and the SE is incredible. If you can find it, it's pretty OP. -D.
just wondering if it is possible to install 2 fans from the outside on the case, on side of the GPU to improve the temperatures, might not be suitable for everyone but if it does help significantly with temperature it might be viable.
Just makes me wish Corsair did a larger version capable of fitting Micro Atx boards. Which would be similar to Silverstone Alta G1M. I don't like being forced into both mini itx boards plus also SFX power supplies. That's just a double whammy for system builders. I do like the vertical aspect. And I feel a lot of people out have desk space to spare in height but not so much in depth. Personally I dont mind not having heaps of GPU options. But this is better than Silverstone's in that regard. I don't see Corsair or Silverstone stealing many people away from the AP201. Which is incredibly versatile. I know it started with NR200 and there are the Jonsbo ones etc too. I'll watch on to see where this small and tall design goes..
Producers need to fix one big flaw of vertical cases - media panel needs to be mountable both on top, or on bottom, else you are stuck on table or on the floor. Give me options dammit!
I can't imagine why anyone would pick this over the Meshlicious?? I can fit my MSI Suprim X 4090 in the Meshlicious with a 280mm Radiator. The performance diff between 360mm and 280mm is almost negligible.
I still prefer the cooler master NR200p. The old one without the vertical gpu. Can fit most really high-end parts. Good performance and amd great price
I'm really liking the mesh panel designs. Tired of the fish tank unicorn vomit pc cases and my next machine will likely have no rgb or very limited rgb and either a solid panel or a mesh one like this or that asus prime ap201. I wish thermaltake would release a mesh version of their tower series that would be super cool.
You didn't mention siverstone who've been making mini itx cases fir years , woth the raven 01 , 03 and tje sugo line of cases all smaller than corsairs effort
This seems like more of an MATX case rather than an ITX. They need to make a 1000 D case where you can fit up to a 280 mil. In it, but figure out a different place to set up the ITX motherboards only. That's easier to access than on the bottom
Dust filter should be on front where air been take in. Not from back. Now case with RGB cost 59 €, but still. Not really know should i buy it for person who want ITX or mATX case
if you've looked at this case i would love to see you consider the mATX Silverstone Alta G1M. same concept as the corsair but with intake from bottom and the ability to take 4 slot GPU without the gpu heat issue you encountered.
I don't like that power cable on the back. Corsair need to reroute it inside and have the psu cable come out the bottom. They need redesigning that case.
No hate to corsair but I have the DLH21 case by darkflash in my living room as an x-box "look alike" for couch gaming. It rivals this case for less money (granted it is smaller) and looks better IMO if you can find it available in the color you want.
I'm struggling to understand who they're targeting with this because it's so expensive, but lacks a lot of the things that the SFF community would be willing to pay that premium for. After a certain size, cases have to contend with the NR200, which is much cheaper than this, and less of a headache because the I/O isn't pointed downward.
Those other SFF cases is too big so it's something you can't put in your living room but this 2000D is more feasible because of its small physical foot print. I like gaming on my 75inch Samsung Q-LED in the living room.
@HardwareCanucks Will it fit a 4090 (Specifically MSI VENTUS 3X) or is that being to optimistic with the available GPU space? I assume to remove the dust filter so it can breathe a little more 😅
Wish you would have compared it to the old 250D. I always wanted one of those but by the time I was ready to do a fresh build they had stopped making them and buying a used one online was not worth it. Wish we could go back to cube cases that was a fad I liked!
I wonder if we will ever see itx cases like the those Silverstone flat htpc cases. I wish they'd sell the Corsair 1's but maybe in a decade they will show up on eBay
Why is it that Fractal Design is the only brand that understands nylon dust filters are the best and most effective at both filtering dust and allowing maximum airflow. If Corsair or any brand for that matter uses those magnetic filters they are cheaping out and I'd avoid those.
Always though the Corsair One was one of the most interesting prebuilt PCs you could get but I always wanted them to sell the case and aios as a diy case. This case isn't quite that but it's a step in the right direction. I'm thinking an AIO water-cooled GPU might be the way to go here after seeing the temperature results.
2:08 "Boring" is good. Totally disagree about adding different textures and extra crap to the design. There are plenty of those types in the market already . I want simple and plain.
What a great looking air purifier
yeah great case for those who doesn't wanna see their pc parts, it's like hyte revolt or velka or nzxt h1 etc. Still gonna stick with meshlicious, great view and compatibility.
@nguyen_van_a Sounds like a cooling nightmare tbh
air purifiern't
And a warmer
For me the dust filtration while sustaining airflow is the key task of the case. Without the dust filtration I can equally put the hardware into a fully open frame or whatever box and have the same result. Or Mount the Hardware to the wall full open.
I've been running a meshlicious for around a year without cleaning with negative airflow and there's almost zero dust. Mesh is so dense it doesn't need filters.
@@MrDutch1e I've been running an open pc mounted on a frame for around half a year, I tried cleaning it with compressed air multiple times but nothing comes out every time I try. I don't clean it anymore. The dust issue depends a lot on the environment. My room is clean enough for open pc.
@@MrDutch1e Also, my friend's running meshlicious as well and he did get a lot of dust into his pc.
@@MrDutch1e dust is literally smaller than 500nm Wich is like 0.0005mm big there’s no way they could make such small holes maybe you just don’t have much dust at home
That defeats the purpose of the case. It's meant to look good and expects you to actually do maintenance on your PC.
How do they even justify 140 for this without fans and without having to include a riser?
Mini itx cases are generally really expensive. Im going to get a Formd t1 which is $220 and comes with no fans.
Case doesn't require a riser based on the motherboard mounting.
The price of the case should have been around the 109.99 price point.
The case depth should have been increased by 25-50 mm to allow for fans and a 3 slot gpu as well as provide a chamber to route the PSU cable inside. The top magnetic cover could have covered and allowed access and the top of the case could have had a gromet to bring the cable inside.
This should have shipped with all of the QX line as I will say building with the new proprietary cable made wire management a breeze even if most of the RGB view is limited.
@@zyzzyx914 you're talking about niche companies that don't have Corsair's reputation and probably won't sell as many units. Getting their tooling costs back is going to be harder than for a company the size of Corsair.
@@TheRealExbit I also would have preferred that the motherboard I/O would come out of the top instead of the bottom for easier access, like most other rotated layout cases.
Looks like there is no justification. I got mine for 77€ :D
That GPU spacing seems like a massive oversight!
I totally agree. The fact that they dont even give the exact gpu width dimensions on their website or even in the manual, tells me that they're trying to not bring attention to that part.
It fits a 4080
I did a build with this system using a PA 120 SE w/ noctua fans tuned to max 1250rpm and Asus Tuf 3090. I have 3 arctic p12s at 800rpm at the front. Its decently silent tuned this way. AMA.
He is right though about the GPU airflow being odd. I pulled the filter and it did cool off a lot.
In my case i'm using an asus Tuf 3090 in silent mode setting and it is much quieter with the filter at the back pulled off. My temps running simple heaven benchmark is around 70c with gpu fans coasting around 1250rpm. Otherwise, it would eventually ramp up to 2k rpm at a higher temp.
An odd thing about this case is that the way the gpu heat comes off of the gpu, it likes to come out in all directions. I can feel cool intake via the back and heat pops out the sides and top.
The top interior though is a solid piece of metal so the heat spreads out through the top of the case. Even though there is a mesh top panel it doesn't really help the heat escape. They need to redesign it with holes and maybe a mount so that you could put some giant fan up top to help exhaust out the top as an option. Especially it seems length isn't a super big deal vs thickness for gpus.
I eventually will put in a 4090FE so i'm guessing i can reverse the top 1 or 2 front fans and hope it blows out the hot air out front and let the bottom fan push in something to the cpu area.
PROS:
looks/style, front panel, footprint, no riser needed vs something like meshilicious, h1, hyte
CONS:
feels cheap
weird design choices at the top of the case
I like the idea of reversing one or two front fans (when using AIO), thanks for the write up, I am currently thinking about getting this one.
Oof. The case size is intriguing because it can (should) fit more components, but I'll wait for the updated version if Corsair decides to stick with SFX.
What revisions would you hope they do?
Unless I’m mistaken Origin sells a prebuilt using this case and JayzTwoCents did a review on it about 7-8 months ago and in that video with a 4080 founders and 13900k his temps were 80 and 75 C on cpu/gpu which for those components are pretty good in a sff build. Not sure why your temps were so off with lower spec components. I’d still consider this as a pontential case for a build if I were going sff
I love the main idea of this case, but the execution seems like a conjunction of many afterthoughts.
1. Why no cable ties when the case is huge inside?
2. Why make the psu cable routed outside if there’s a load of space inside?
3. Why make a mesh top but the wall underneath not perforated?
4. Why make the back look like a bottom, have punched holes where feet could go, but not allow a horizontal mount? (Just a guess)
5. Why charge such a high price, but then have the outside be completely plastic in comparison to every other “D Airflow” series case ?
1. Company preference (money)
2. It'd be more excess internal cable management. The point is that there is a LOT of space not taken up by wires going everywhere.
3. Aesthetics.
4. Soley designed to be vertical.
5. It's Corsair, isn't that expensive compared to other ITX cases, and it has a plastic shroud because getting some of those inset lines on the case shroud are near impossible to be mass-manufactured with metal, however the plastic is not low quality or thin whatsoever.
It's really sad that case manufacturers are giving us genuine, interesting innovations just as the graphics card manufacturers and motherboard manufacturers are doing their level best to destroy the entire hobby of PC building.
The PC hobby just can't catch a break man. First it was bitcoin mining ruining the prices, then RAM was impossible to get at a decent price, silicone shortage, and now nvidia is deciding to self destruct. It's so close to being the golden age of PC building but we can't get there
Damm with the oversized GPUs! 👎🏻
Worst thing is those 4080 and 4090 dont even need to be half the current size
@@qwuzzy AMD is complicit in this too. They benefit from changing the norm of GPU prices just as much as Nvidia. Sure, they sell cheaper GPUs than Nvidia but they certainly aren't trying to return the prices of GPUs to the older days. Intel aren't saints but we really need them to exert some pressure in the GPU space.
at least ram prices and storage prices are rock bottom right now to offset the cost. also unless you you have the absolute top trim graphics cards their no reason to buy more than an i5 or a 6 core ryzen at the moment.
They should have used a thicker panel for the GPU side. If they had gone with, say, 1.5mm steel, they could have used a significantly more open configuration of the holes without compromising structural integrity. Not a terrible case, but I definitely think that they made some poor choices about where they cut costs.
I wonder why Corsair didn't just put the motherboard at the top and the PSU at the bottom. There was an initial version with that layout.
I dont understand this GPU temps. I have the dustfilter on (have removed the once in front and on the AIO side) and have a stable GPU temp of around 70 celsius. My GPU is a Asus RTX 4070 dual card. intake fans in front are set to 30% becouse of noise and I have a coolermaster ML360 illusion that is set to exhaust. I am over all very satisfied with the case. But there are some things I think they should have made better. I wish they had made it easier to place non slim fans in front the case since its so big allready, a few more millimeters would not had anything to say (Im not really a fan of corsairs fan system and think they are very noisy compared to other fans and I also don't like the software) . I have a motherboard with a m.2 ssd on the back with a heatsink, this won't fit atleast it does not for my Asus ROG X570i so i had to modify the case and cut away a bit. I also wish, like it was said in the video that they would include a extra ssd bracket since it is space for it. The ssupd meshlicious also have the IO pointing down but atleast on the corsair its space for the cables that goes from the GPU. Overall I am more happy with this case then the meshlicious and my overall temps are atleast better on this one. CPU is a AM4 Ryzen 5 5600X.
Whew, beautiful case; even better cinematography on the vlog style sections. You guys are amazing. This reminds me of my NR200 set to "vertical mode", where all the outputs are up top.
I haven’t seen a video in about 2 years, but I am the only one that things they’re watching Mr. Sir from Holes doing a case review?
I watched over a dozen reviews of this case, this review is the only one that reports high GPU temps. I'm curious why. They all had the aio in exhaust with the three front fans as intake.
You'd think they'd have at least 1 itx enthusiast working at corsair. 25L is massive for itx only board. Just go meshroom or meshlicious. There's so many superior options.
I feel as though Corsair wanted to use a different layout with a riser cable like nzxt which is very reminiscent of but didn’t want to pinch the cable like nzxt & cause a fire hazard, just speculation but possibility who knows
That's how it seems to me as well, it's a very safe sfx case just not a lot of creativity in my eyes from corsair.
@@hades1737 exactly what I was thinking, Corsair usually gets creative but maybe this was a too much of a safe approach
Did any notice something painfully wrong with the case at 2:10 (Check the Front - Right - Bottom of the case)
Pros:
- Looks nice (from the outside)
- Size is perfect, not too big not too small
- All panels are removeable for easy access
Cons:
- Literally everything else.
I bought this case (RGB Airflow with fans) and I was shocked, they managed to make all the bad design choices, even the fan cables routing could be much cleaner if the cables were on the other side. I spent ~5 hours assembling my PC inside this case, I can write a book on what they should have done differently.
Note that the shell is held by rivets instead of bolts, so if you thought you could flip it or something, you will not be able to do it easily.
iCue requires 9pin USB header, check if your motherboard has one, I have Minisforum BD790i so now I have to figure out how to connect it.
I would recommend to wait for the second version/revision (if they will make any), or if you really like how it looks and want to buy it then make sure you know what you get...
Most tech youtubers can't be trusted because they get paid to advertise stuff and also probably don't take the time to use the item themselves before reading the info points that the sponsor provided them.
Is corsair ever going to update their Ones?
Just watched the whole thing, classic itx case from a big manufacturer, bad space optimization and too restrictive airflow :| great review as usual, thanks :)
Thanks!
I built a PC for my wife with this case it has a 3070 Ti in it, no load was the GPU was at 45 C and then under load it was around 60, spiked to 80 but that was the absolute highest it would go under hours of playing. Also for the IO I think once you have everything plugged in it works well, you have Bluetooth and if you need quick access to more USB ports they have USB hubs for that.
I just built a system with this case, and the new icue link system. With some patience, you can route and fit 25 mm fans on the front, but it depends on the ITX Motherboards I/O plate for some clearance.
MSI z790i EDGE WiFi
GTX 4090 FE
SF1000L
iCUE LINK H150i RGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler with 3 additional fans.
I would highly suggest building or purchasing a custom length ATX 24 pin. Depending on the PSU 100 mm SFXL or 150 mm for SFX to allow easier wire management.
So far temps have been decent, and the pc is quiet under medium load.
I had really high hopes for this, but the fact, that it doesn't support 4 slot gpus is unbelievable, considering its size. Like how does this have the same gpu support as a meshlicious?
Anyway, it shouldn't be too difficult to improve this case: just a more porous mesh and give the gpu a little more space.
Meshlicious uses riser, so it optimizes space better.
This case is NR200 placed vertically. This layout's biggest plus is compatibility with good air towers and no risers
@smtnbad for the price though you should just go with the nr200...
Make a watercool build with the case
2:08 put your left side panel in place at the bottom 😬
Look at the nr200P mesh (case and filters) compared to this case and you will see the difference. All mesh is not created equal. GN has pointed this out many times.
External looks, cheap plastic (6/10)
Internal design (5/10)
Price (5/10)
If you want vertical, just buy Meshroom,
or just grab the NR200P, so so many case better than this.
We need more tall slim cases.
that 2000 is super nice. next one am going to build!
The ONLY systems I've ever owned with components that failed (at any point - in or out of warranty) were Corsair Ones. The 1080 in my first gen failed after only a few years. More recently, an a200 experienced pump failure and the warranty replacement took over six weeks to process... oh, and was shipped with Win11 instead of the Win10 that I originally ordered and still prefer. This case initially looks interesting, but the PSU cable "management" on the back and the video I/O are far from optimal. Meanwhile, the lack of a top exhaust fan - you know, 'cuz heat tends to RISE - is just perplexing on a case this size (and at this price). IMHO, Corsair might want to take a look at what they're doing in this space (pre-builts, cases) and make some adjustments to improve quality and function.
Only fits up to 3-slot GPU, I'm using a 3.7-slot RTX 4080, sadly this case is not for me... Using SSUPD Meshroom S but I prefer the non-riser case like this
Anyone know of a case similar to this thats taller than it is long? I dont want to take up a huge amaount of desk space to make an itx build.
Why is it so expensive? Its almost the same price as premium sff cases made from milled aluminium.
I feel like the original version of this case was a little better ....it had fan at the top and all the i/o was at the top as well. The velcro straps were for all the cables.
The ports interface down is not an issue, it's a feature. I was already thinking CAD-ing a custom case like this, because there wasn't one.
how is not having access to your ports a feature?
@@elchartps3 What accessing the HDMI, DP, keyboard and mouse needs? It is connected and you leave it like that. Front ports are for sticks and other crap. People are crazed about aesthetics with their RGB sluthouse looks and somehow ignore how ugly the cables coming out from the back are.
Did you test temps with the front set to exhaust and the side rad as intake? In the video the front looks set to intake, which probably isn't helping GPU temps.
Rocking a SAMA IM01 with micro atx motherboard, full size psu, 2.5 slots gpu and a 155mm tower cooler. For $60. Can't beat that
thanks, really good review, i needed this, im going with the SSUPD
Always love your detailed ITX case reviews. I definitely like this style of tall standing ITX cases, but this one is a no go for me - It does look cheap for the price! I like the push-open hinged top panel of the Phanteks Evolv Shift cases with easy access to the I/O Ports - I rather have the MB on top. I just hope Phanteks or other brands release something better, while improving on the GPU cooling and support.
I guess I got lucky getting hold of my C4-SFX. quite happy with it, but would like some filtering on it. May have a shot at it this afternoon.
I'm using a Silverstone Alta G1M and this looks similar to that and I really like this kind of form factor that takes up less space on the desk but looking at the io location and quality, i think i'd rather stay with the Alta case for now. Hope more case companies makes these kinds of casings though.
I like the size, but not the price. The O11 air mini supports ATX boards and PSUs, and comes in at a lower price. The 5000d airflow is cheaper and supports bigger gpus. I was interested in moving to this case... Was
Nothing will ever top how insanely awesome the Corsair One was. And while this case is massive for an ITX, it is still very cool of a set up and smaller than an ATX case.
2:07 | I hope the one on the side of the housing is unintentional...
I think because of how cheap m.2 drives are these days they only felt the need for 1 sata ssd. m.2 is basically the standard now.
Would be cool to have the motherboard right way up, have the IO in the back and just have the GPU with a riser cable, but that seems to be impossible to engineer in this kind of a case.
i still think the best itx tower chassis design is Silverstone ft-03 mini
The FT-03 Mini is one of my all time favorite vertical cases. How I wish they would release an updated version for modern hardware...
Nope. I got this case a week before the release date from a local retailer and it went back the next day. The case poorly space optimized (seriously though, the meshroom can fir a 353mm 4 slot GPU and a 280mm rad), has barely any cable management and has the jankiest PSU cable out I have ever seen on a case.
The only things going for it are the 360 rad support and the rgb fans.
10L-15L is the sweet spot for zero compromise. 24L is just too big.
Isn't it possible, as you can install the side panels up side down, that the idea is so that the case can be flipped up side down? By moving the legs to the top and installing the side panels up side down?? Would make sense for me to have the IOs on the top, and hanging the GPU is a good thing I would say
Looks like Corsair put their c team to work on this case.
Magnets on side panels and open frame design on the GPU side seems like a no brainer, and other manufacturers have been doing it for quite some time now.
can't we make a small cut out for cables and mount fans outside, on the Gpu side?
5:39 when I saw this, I immediately thought the thermals will be shite, an obstructed top flow is never a good thing.
I see a number of new cases have USB-C port but do not specify if this port can support USB 3.2 gen 2x2 or USB4. Are all USB-C ports created equal with full support for whatever?
doesnt the ssupd meshroom support 360mm rads?
No, only 280. That’s why Corsair won’t get sued for copying their design
I see you are using a viper mini SE, how do you like it so far?
I'm reviewing the new Cobra line from Razer, so deff had to take out the Viper Mini SE and the SE is incredible. If you can find it, it's pretty OP.
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@@HardwareCanucks thank you for the answer, waiting for the upcoming review :)
just wondering if it is possible to install 2 fans from the outside on the case, on side of the GPU to improve the temperatures, might not be suitable for everyone but if it does help significantly with temperature it might be viable.
Just makes me wish Corsair did a larger version capable of fitting Micro Atx boards. Which would be similar to Silverstone Alta G1M. I don't like being forced into both mini itx boards plus also SFX power supplies. That's just a double whammy for system builders. I do like the vertical aspect. And I feel a lot of people out have desk space to spare in height but not so much in depth. Personally I dont mind not having heaps of GPU options. But this is better than Silverstone's in that regard. I don't see Corsair or Silverstone stealing many people away from the AP201. Which is incredibly versatile. I know it started with NR200 and there are the Jonsbo ones etc too. I'll watch on to see where this small and tall design goes..
Producers need to fix one big flaw of vertical cases - media panel needs to be mountable both on top, or on bottom, else you are stuck on table or on the floor. Give me options dammit!
Why in hell build this without supporting the biggest Founder's edition? Makes no sense.
I can't imagine why anyone would pick this over the Meshlicious?? I can fit my MSI Suprim X 4090 in the Meshlicious with a 280mm Radiator. The performance diff between 360mm and 280mm is almost negligible.
I still prefer the cooler master NR200p. The old one without the vertical gpu. Can fit most really high-end parts. Good performance and amd great price
I believe the CPU cooler restriction is with an AiO for pump height.
If you used your noctua cooler, would you be able to mount fans on the side as well or is there not enough room there
I'm really liking the mesh panel designs. Tired of the fish tank unicorn vomit pc cases and my next machine will likely have no rgb or very limited rgb and either a solid panel or a mesh one like this or that asus prime ap201. I wish thermaltake would release a mesh version of their tower series that would be super cool.
Check out the Meshlicious or Meshroom S. Arguably better cases. The Meshlicious is even in the thermal testing chart in this video
You didn't mention siverstone who've been making mini itx cases fir years , woth the raven 01 , 03 and tje sugo line of cases all smaller than corsairs effort
This seems like more of an MATX case rather than an ITX. They need to make a 1000 D case where you can fit up to a 280 mil. In it, but figure out a different place to set up the ITX motherboards only. That's easier to access than on the bottom
Dust filter should be on front where air been take in. Not from back. Now case with RGB cost 59 €, but still. Not really know should i buy it for person who want ITX or mATX case
Would love to see the temps for the cpu and gpu when using that air cooler you had mounted!
I could swear someone put a 4080 in one
Yep
How did you mount the D12L in a vertical configuration instead of horizontal?
Thost temps are amazing
Cooler Master Haf XB EVO is still my Favorite case ever made. :)
if you've looked at this case i would love to see you consider the mATX Silverstone Alta G1M. same concept as the corsair but with intake from bottom and the ability to take 4 slot GPU without the gpu heat issue you encountered.
I don't like that power cable on the back. Corsair need to reroute it inside and have the psu cable come out the bottom. They need redesigning that case.
should also say how you configure your fan set up
Think it is possible to migrate a corsair one into this case?
Pay close attention to the gpu measurements. Their site lists 365 max and everywhere else is listing 320.
Any good mini itx case for 4080 and 4090 aftermarket that is usually available?
No hate to corsair but I have the DLH21 case by darkflash in my living room as an x-box "look alike" for couch gaming. It rivals this case for less money (granted it is smaller) and looks better IMO if you can find it available in the color you want.
Corsair builds cases to sell bigger AiO, more fans and make more money. It's not about what you want.
I'm struggling to understand who they're targeting with this because it's so expensive, but lacks a lot of the things that the SFF community would be willing to pay that premium for. After a certain size, cases have to contend with the NR200, which is much cheaper than this, and less of a headache because the I/O isn't pointed downward.
Those other SFF cases is too big so it's something you can't put in your living room but this 2000D is more feasible because of its small physical foot print. I like gaming on my 75inch Samsung Q-LED in the living room.
the rear end mobo connections really killed it for me
@HardwareCanucks Will it fit a 4090 (Specifically MSI VENTUS 3X) or is that being to optimistic with the available GPU space? I assume to remove the dust filter so it can breathe a little more 😅
Awesome review! Could you fit a 4090 strix in this?
Wish you would have compared it to the old 250D. I always wanted one of those but by the time I was ready to do a fresh build they had stopped making them and buying a used one online was not worth it.
Wish we could go back to cube cases that was a fad I liked!
Can the front of the case use 140mm fans?
I wonder if we will ever see itx cases like the those Silverstone flat htpc cases. I wish they'd sell the Corsair 1's but maybe in a decade they will show up on eBay
How do you compare Corsair 2000D airflow vs jonsbo D31 Mesh, which one have better cooling? N which one you prefer to buy?
Why is it that Fractal Design is the only brand that understands nylon dust filters are the best and most effective at both filtering dust and allowing maximum airflow. If Corsair or any brand for that matter uses those magnetic filters they are cheaping out and I'd avoid those.
How are the USB slots and how many are there?
can it accommodate a 3.5 slot, 325mm GPU like the 7900 XTX Nitro+ ?
Always though the Corsair One was one of the most interesting prebuilt PCs you could get but I always wanted them to sell the case and aios as a diy case.
This case isn't quite that but it's a step in the right direction. I'm thinking an AIO water-cooled GPU might be the way to go here after seeing the temperature results.
corsair should have put a 280 maybe 300mm fan on the top of the case for exaust, it would have a much better air flow.
they're giving you an enlarged version of the Series X box, i like it
witch one can i buy to fit 3080 4 slot GPU ? wanna have one ITX build but GPU 4 slots and tryed to buy NZXT H1 V2 and GPU want fit
IS the founder edition supported?