ROTTEN SIERRA RS500 COSWORTH IS GETTING RE-SHELLED
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2024
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Here is the other Barn find RS500 we done a video with
First clean
ruclips.net/video/bFY7bhqxtDw/видео.htmlsi=osSvXTif3UFmdKEt
Finished and Fully paint corrected
ruclips.net/video/DpUyo4Idn8A/видео.html
I wonder if that is my new old shell? I bought it about 25 years ago it had a dent on the passenger wing not big I paid £800 it even had the Cosworth plate under the bonnet, all taped up doors, bonnet, boot and doors
Mad to think what they’re worth now
It's opened my eyes about a reshell. I didn't know that you could stamp your cars number onto a blank canvas. I'm all for it. What a nice feeling to be driving round in a mint patch free/ rust/ filler ect 💯 solid 👌
the master and his apprentice.....love these 2 together, both so passionate about these great cars
its lovely listening to two fanatics
These two always make top notch content together.. Can’t wait to see what the future has in store
in my experience anything you can see before the shell is stripped will be 10 times worse once you start cutting into it, definitely makes sense to re shell
I think Paul should chop the rear end off of the scrap shell and use the front half as the cockpit for a sim racing setup.
as you know I did E100 Vaw (no 250) ( with my brother) years ago, it had more rust than this one ! far better to have a re-shelled survivor than a pile of scrap .... I look forward to watching this series, thanks for sharing !
Wow Paul seems like a such a great honest guy someone you can really trust your pride and joy with
As someone who knows Paul I would trust him 110% with my cars and I’m a nightmare with leaving my cars with people 😂
@@Adam151082 hahaha 😂 never the less another great video I enjoy all your content, looking forward to seeing the Reshell!
Comes with a £££ tho . Pay for what u get . So tru
No, new old stock is not the same as new. These shells are ford parts made at the same time as the car. Its no different to driving the car out the Ford showroom, crashing it immediately and replacing the shell.
Love to see a video before paint of the new shell
I’d get retropower to hot zinc spray and epoxy prime the new shell. They’ve had test panels salt spray tested and it basically wouldn’t fail.
Very interesting content Adam , Paul answering all obvious questions.I would have thought the original shell could yield some sections with no identification for damaged other vehicles rather than destroying everything ?.
Saw this the other day when I picked some wheels up from Paul, didn’t realise there was a build series on RUclips!
That engine is probably one of the quietest I’ve heard, even rotten it’s a beautiful car
Not an original car when reshelled as it is a Triggers broom. Ebay is full of RS2000's shelled with Pop shells for example.
Yes, but of you know anything about what your buying you should know it's legit or not, all mk2 rs body shells were made in Germany apart from oz rs2000 and rs1800. Heavy duty inner winds with reinforced strut tops with vin stamped on right, different exhaust hangers and spare wheel boot straps etc. VIN no starting GCAT list goes on. Knowledge is power.....
@@duckhunter8203Have you seen the Chinese MKII shells? as original as many cars on Ebay!
Agreed, replacing the body, it's no longer the original car
So is a car that has had 60% of its panels replaced & plates galore welded into it still "original"?
@@richardm5467 Still driving a POP and claiming it's an RS2000?
Where on gods green earth are you finding new 3 door shells?
Keen to see the progress on this one.
Wish i could reshell my very rusty datsun coupe, would be sooo much better than the extensive work i have to do and would be a lot easier to panel and paint too!
Great early Sunday morning watch always enjoy the Paul Linfoot content by you Adam looking forward to the process of this one 👍
That kid put all them scratches in the bonnet with that sponge 🧽 😂
I personally think its a no brainer to reshell it plus have every part that can be power coated done. Engine rebuild ect. I'd go to town on it will be possibility one of the best on the road once finished..
Nice ringer!
and technically not a factory built Cosworth LOL....
Where does a new old stock shell come from? Has someone just sat on it from new? Its not a small thing to have sitting about! Have i misunderstood something?
Yup, plenty of shells available direct from ford at the time. Most cars you can buy a bare shell from the manufacturer. People kept them as investments. Don't for one minute think its going to be sold for cheap though!!😅
All come out afield not too long back
Motorsport teams back in the day would hold on to shells, to be used when cars were wrecked on the track.
Ford would have supplied them at a discounted rate, as successes on the track are effective advertising for the brand.
Before the demise of Rover, Mini bodyshells were available to motorsports like Mini Seven and Miglia at about a £400 when they retailed at about £1600.
And thank goodness they were, or there'd be none left today.
So you are saying that there are brand new rs500 shell just sitting in a shed sum where LOL@@paulcurrie9252
Love the videos Adam, watched them all! They get me back into the workshop working on my Sapph
Awesome mate. Get cracking with it
Ah Linfoot. Those of us in the business know all about what he’s like…..
Spill the beans😂, tell us that are not in the business 🤔
Looking forward to the update videos!
I'm in the same situation but with a different model.
Dilemma is the cost of a new shell , fully painting it then putting everything back together can't be too much off the cost of a full restoration on the original car. Definitely the re-shell has the longevity prospects on its side
Worked for Ford as an RS tech back in the late eighties early nineties reshelled a number of RS500s and RS sapphires along with RS Turbos due to accident damage none of them were on the register for being written off, still see some of the cars at the shows to this day and I wonder if the current owners know the unrecorded history, just don't want to burst their bubbles when speaking to them
If you can afford to reshell then I think it’s great, every part can be cleaned and properly looked at and when done it be amazing. I’d love to own one of these 👍👌
Just out of interest would the bodyshell be able to be sold on for the use for the likes of me to use for stockcar racing? Id love to drop the 328i running gear out of my current car which is an E46 bmw into that. It would be the mutts nuts by far the best looking motor out on the oval thats for sure
I was born in the town where the Ford garage the car was supplied was. I think its still there in fact!
It's amazing that you can still find replacement parts for such an old car. Are these shells easy to come by, or are they leftover inventory?
If anyone can be bothered to explain it, I would be interested. :)
Great video Adam. Keep the updates coming on this one
Looking forward to seeing the progress on this one mate.
That car was sold years ago by Willie McKie,Old Street garage in Girvan,South Ayrshire.
I know that garage..
your perfectly right a reshell is the best option im just so glad another RS500 will live again well done guys and where ever you got that shell there must be rocking horses s**t because there both that rare
Is there many new shells still about ?
I agree with the re-shell, modern cars are slot stronger than 80’s cars, any additional weakness from rust repairs is bad shiz if you crash it or worse if a modern car hits it. Re shell on safety grounds alone 😎👊🏻
Where do you get a new shell?
With the stresses and strains that an RS500 is put under by an enthusiastic owner, changing the shell is a very sensible decision.
Was first sold in oxfordshire by hartford motors going reg
Whats the ballpark cost on this sort of work?
Always good when Paul is in a video 👍🏻
Great vid as always boys, re-shell’s a no brainer…..cars going to amazing 👍🏻
This just proves it’s the engine that’s the best part of a cossie. It will be a nice car once finished. I could have sworn Paul said “no more road cars” 😂
I love that guys passion, that car needs to stripped just down to the shell and just cut out the bad bits and see is there anything left, definitely worth doing cause they are worth 10 million quid now 😊, I had a 1990 Nissan 200sx 1.8 turbo back in the day and I had mates we these cosworths and we had many a run back in the 90s, and the 200sx had no problem keeping up with the cosworths, I’m talking about standard cars though.
Old Street Garage, Girvan! My local garage from my youth. Excellent video! 👍
How come brand new shells are available? I thought they would be long gone.
What does he do with the shell use it for cuts
Looking forward to watching Paul rebuild an engine
Reshelling the car is not the same car...you can't then say "this is a low mile garage find car" because it's just not the same car...
If you're honest about its history then that's fine , but any history or province is gone.
Triggers broom.😂
@@Garfieldsteve💯🤣
Would love to see the owners reaction when completed... Love this content listening to Paul 👍
Looking forward to watching the progress on this
Looking forward to this. U just know Paul will build this better than factory. It’s in the right hands let’s face it.
how much are non cossie 3 door sierras in uk?
I remember you could get new shell for the original mini's didn't know there was stock for other cars
You can order a bodyshell for any car, whilst it is still in production.
You can still buy classic Mini Shells from British Motor Heritage who also supply MG Midget, MGB and others bodyshells too.
Awesome stuff, i'd love to see more of the re-shelling process
I dont see the problem.bodyshells is just the biggest part you can buy for your car.
Believe it or not adam and paul..a just see the reg plate there and it says on it..OLD STREET GARAGE GIRVAN..i actually deliver car parts to the which a will tomorrow..am going to ask if the garage remembers selling it..
Where are they getting the 25 years of storage from? It had a MOT 2015
I saw it broke down in 2012 😂
Definitely rather a well documented proper reshell than a huge welding job
I'd strip the old shell down to component panels, sell what's solid, example, roof skin an any solid stuff to help save others...
Seems a waste to crush it when there's probably a lot left to help save others, or make templates from 😎
Paul's so right about re-shelling vehicles. The amount of cars in the late 80s/early 90s bodyshops repaired this way was crazy.
So easy that now mate!!
Weird to see that dealership on the reg plate, just along the road from me.
whats the price all in….for this project….?
A Re-shell with a brand new mint factory bodyshell any day over a welded/Repaired previously rotten shell, The Re-shell should increase it's value IMO!
Hi Paul and Adam, looking forward to the reincarnation of this one into a new bodyshell. Amazing how they still come out of the woodwork 30 yrs later..Alex.
Is the old shell for sale
Can you ‘re-engine’ a car if you use brand new block as well? And keep the same engine number?
Yes you can but it would not be a matching numbers original
Back in the day I did regular resells on mainly ford and Vauxhall garages a mk 2 Astra could be rescheduled in a day by the right people if the fresh shell was sat next to the damaged car and you had all the right chassis and engine bay clips at hand as lots would break on removal I did a few in a Vauxhall dealers and they never stamped the floor pan just reseller and sent out
That’s how it was then ….
I'm sure you can save panel cuts off it before it goes to scrap they will be worth a penny or two it's crazy how many of these are popping up like 1 every month 😂
i could listen to paul talk cosworth ‘s all day 😁
Awesome work Gents. look forward to seeing the progress The only thing is would say is that could the shell not be cut up for repair panels to the good bits
Would it be worthwhile cutting good sections of it out to use for repair panels for other cars?
The roof for sure yes
The ignition barrel is from a later car.
Paul certainly knows his Cozzies..
Very honest and informative..
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So that she’ll sitting on the rack isn’t the new one be interesting to see if it’s still there in the next vid haha seems legal as
Is it best to park on wooden sheets in a garage ?
I thought the explanation of what made it rot of being on a concrete I don’t think so more a damp garage with no dpm in the floor ? I’ve got many a car that’s sat in a garage for decades and only the rust they probably entered with on them.
Great vlog. Is the new shell source from a foreign country?
The car comes from Girvan nice part of Scotland
If its going into the beige shell which doesn't look new isn't it ringing if you transfer over the vin?
Did u not listen to anything they said?
Think you need to watch the video again
It's a brand new shell, are you mutton?
Did you just have the video playing with no sound 🤷♂️ listen to what the guy says
This is exactly how I would want one done
Dont see an issue with re shelling surely only the same as changing any other swrious part like gear box etc
There can’t be many RS Cosworth shells laying about. What does one of them go for?
He did talk about this b4 I can't remember now.
@@tomasdevine7756 I can’t imagine it being cheap. “It’s only original once“ comes to mind for me. If the shell is 15k and it needs 15k of metal work, I’d be keeping the original shell but I get many wouldn’t. He’s obviously well versed on the subject.
I remember seeing a car park full of these in West Horndon in Essex (where I’m from) back in 85/86. They’d come over from Germany then get shipped to Tickford for conversion. Must of been well over 20 of them. I was there to replace the windscreen in the transportation truck. TNT if I remember correctly.
@@gaillaffer7579 Yes once reshelled it is a ringer!
Wouldn't mind knowing what paul thinks of the rs 500 with 9k miles on from kgf cars at £350k 😊
Saw that the other day, it will sell for that price too
@@scott2495 err ok..
Those scottish winters must be brutal on cars.
Not really, just a typical Ford.
Yep, it's shit for old cars up here, back in the late 90's i ran a 3.0S Capri as a daily, three winters nearly killed it.
Wil the new painted shell be alongside that beige second hand shell for comparison
Or will the second hand shell be sold before the painted NEW shell arrives
😂
@@foxmeister06 🤣
@@user-xf2dn2oi2dwill be interesting to see the workshop line up at that point, makes for interesting viewing 😂
I love the spread of content that you make for the channel Adam. I was wondering how you'd cover the gap over your house move.
Where all these "new" shell with no i d keep coming from?,Ford still making them then?,rs500 shell's are slightly different from normal 3 door, battery tray,so this new shell a genuine rs500 shell or a normal 3 door shell?
The RS500's was built from 3 door cossie's I believe
Ford originally intended to use the XR4i shell with the split side window for the Cosworth. As it was stiffened in a few places for the heavy cologne V6 engine. But then decided to use the std 3 door shell and added strengtheners to it where needed. The 500 was the same as std 3 door Cosworth shells. Complete cars went to tickford and received the RS500 conversions.
Bet its the white one next to it
Can I have this shell to put on top of my garage please 😢
Those saying repair, weld and preserve the original, are those who'd have it sitting under cover in a heated garage. Try throwing that into a country road curve at 60 mph. Give me a fully restored car with a new shell any day.
Agree with scrapping the shell in principle, but might there not be sections that can be cut from it to repair other vehicles? Quite refreshing that this major works will be documented and not hidden - though of course that would be difficult to do anyway with it being on YT 😂
What create another ringer?
@@JohnSmith-ei2pz repairing a shell with small sections of another does not result in a ringer 🙄
Spending £10000 to £15000 restore one of these cars is a no brainer, they are worth 70-80k 😮💨
Also the shells you get are blank ID and you just transfer it. These guys are so good at what they do. This shell is a right off, its absolutely horrendous
Better to have a new shell in my opinion, at least the car will have another 30+ years of life ahead of it. It’s in good hands 👍👍
Adam, do body shops cavity wax inject the new shells? Just curious if that is something that they do to help with rust preservation?
I would have loved to have served my papers with this guy I’m a retired painter prepper and this guy knows his stuff and you can learn a lot from paul.
Where do you get the new shell from in 2024?
be interesting what that whole job cost?
Can wait to see this build.
Got to afftect the price surely or am i mistaken surely you would to tell the person and if im the buyer Definitely would make me think about a none reshelled one ano there hard to come buy clean but if.your after one you got spare money youll search personally its on the person hes sayin what he thinks.
A re-shell' is a re-shell'. As long as its not passed off as the original body, its better than just scrapping the whole car.