UFC FIGHTER LEARNS CRAZY RUSSIAN SYSTEMA! Legit or Total BS???
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- UFC FIGHTER LEARNS CRAZY RUSSIAN SYSTEMA! Legit or Total BS???
Whats up fight fans, welcome back to a (kind of) new video!
This was shot 4 years ago when we were approached by Tibi Moravik from Systems of Motion to show us some insights into Systema, a form of russian martial arts that for years has had a terrible reputation for being totally useless!
He demos the fundamentals of punching with brad and some sneaky little moves you may be able to add into your own game!
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What's up fight fans. I've had literally several messages asking for this video to be reuploaded, so here it is... the original had 150,000 views, so it went down well. If you know anyone or are someone that wants to come and film with us and go over your martial art then hit us up on Instagram 👍🏼
We can shoot continue if you would like.. ;)
Tibi
How come you talk tough but hide behind your so-called tough buddy? Go to Wolfman, who's an MMA guy, and he doesn't have a problem with what he's learned?
If Tibor was showing the same stuff, and people weren't aware of Brad's credentials, i suspect the comments section would look very different. You see that in the comments section in Steven Strangles People and McDojo videos where they criticise systema without having the slightest exposure to the art or done any real research on it. (i don't want to give attention to these guys, because i find it reprehensible how they badmouth top exponents of systema like Ryabko and Vasiliev, which only highlights their ignorance). It's quite telling how people yield to authority (the influencer producing the video) and then at the same time congratulate each other about how they're being sharp and critical thinkers, and meanwhile the people practicing systema are gullible members of a cult. If those people had ever met Ryabko and got punched by him they would have forgotten their names and their address. It's easy to criticise a drill on the screen, is what i'm saying. Apply the socratic method if you're interested in the truth. And if you're curious enough, go and test it. But remember like in any other art there's good systema instructors, average and of course bad ones too. I'd recommend Martin Wheeler and his teacher, Vladimir Vasiliev (more accessible in the west) and Valentin Talanov and Arkady Kadochnikov.
Bro, you ain't gotta be a mechanic to know a car with no wheels ain't gonna drive...
The no touch throws are great too.
Guys please go and see one of the "top" instructors. Respect to this dude but go to the top, you'll learn more and have a better understanding of how they train etc.
Alot of the guard breaking stuff that was being shown reminds me of some Wing Chun stuff that Kevin Lee (not the fighter, the RUclipsr) shows.
But that ability to rapidly accelerate a strike right after hand fighting is very nice. Great stuff!
I Love the breakdown of this work. Well guys. Systema gets bad rap because is very broad with application outside of self defense or fighting system. I came across systema in 2004 and it became addiction for many years and by now it is my lifestyle. Many camps, seminars, I even got to meet Michael Ryabko RIP. I use parts of it everyday of my life. Can I defend myself?… I would say much better then prior to starting to train. Russians did well putting this thing together. Though many Russians when asked have no fuck’n idea about systema existence. Most of themself have never heard of it because systema is more popular outside of Russia then in Russia.
I remember seeing this on Fight Perfect! Great breakdown and demonstration of actual uses, like many stranger looking martial arts there are hidden gems in the movements.
Very worthwhile update. Thank you!
This is actually very fair to the systema guy
I wait so much for this episode.... Many thanks... Greetings from Poland
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@TheFightBible A fully professional episode as always. Honestly at the beginning I thought you were going to debunk some myths related to Systema. However, after this episode I know that I want to train Systema. I have one question, what do you think as professionals about the knife defense that Systema presents ? Is it possible on the street ?
@@mieszkowisniewski835knife defence is bullshit. No one who trains has ever been stabbed or stabbed someone.
Unless the instructor is covered in knife marks, don’t listen to him. Best to watch videos of knife attacks and see.
@@RAPEDBYBLACKS Agreed. But Systema Systema often boasts about the effectiveness of his knife defense. Nevertheless, I'm going to start training, I'd like to add it into my boxing training. There are a lot of unexpected moves out there, as the guys talk about in this episode
"thats going to be bruised tomorrow.." that line killed me 😂
Systema saved my teeth in Dakar few years ago… but it can be helpful only for relax people. it’s a no tension martial art.
Good video. I think it could be used in MMA but have to be modified(as its a sport) by being part of a combination rather than one shot. For self-defence it seems to be ideal and really makes you think about how to impact and transfer force.
Systema is a system after all. A system we can apply with every technics of any MA
You guys might appreciate comment from Val Riaznoz; but I’m not sure if he’s still teaching or still in the UK. Martin Wheeler is also a very well respected systema practitioner from England, but he’s in Los Angeles now.
Have you guys ever looked into the Keysi fighting method, I would love to know your thoughts on it.
Is not for ring confrontation, but it could work against untrained people, the pensador technique is legit.
It's a pity I moved out of UK. I'd be happy to come and play Aikido with you guys 🙂
I think about train systema. Much like your channel, always present good techniques and exeposes Bullshidos. Great job guys
Fight Perfect OGs represent!
Maybe check Vladimir Vasiliev Toronto
I love this channel. This is a great analysis
people who come from mma tend to think it is the end all be all. but it s just a cherry on top of a whole layer cake of stylistic chocies
When I took Systema years ago under Vasiliev in Thornhill, I remember thinking to myself "This is like aggressive Aikido".
What a lot of these videos do when they don't explain things, is that they don't explain that the system is more about body mechanics as opposed practising techniques under reppitition like say traditional martial arts and boxing.
But yeah, it was fun when I took it and just like any martial art: it isn't a good martial artist that wins fights, it's a good fighter that wins fights.
What are you talking about? Every martial art is about body mechanics. And if most styles don't use bizarre technicks, maybe it's because they are not very effective.
@@kostiantynpanfilov7464 Then why do the special forces e.g spetsnaz and martin wheeler ex UK special forces and martial arts master use it extensively if it isnt effecitve?
@@tommywozza4626 They don't, it's a hearsay. They use hand to hand combat.
Some individuals might say they use Systema just to promote it. Try to find any demonstration of those technicks working against uncooperative opponent? There's none.
Dead hand/whipping strikes are really strong. Brad is on the right track about using that aspect of it in a fight. Just another tool you can use.
The move at the minute 14:30 I have seen it in some old wing chun manual!!
MMA although very dangerous is mostly for sport and to put on a show. Cause if there's no show, nobody will come to see anything. Systema is not for sport and much less to put on a spectacle or show. In fact Systema is rooted in the foundation of breathing and healing the body to regenerate as quickly as possible so that one can live as well as protect others in real life dangerous situations. If you learn Systema truly and deeply, you're not really going to be a good MMA fighter because Systema trains one not to put on a show so that no-one can see one as a threat in a real life. In fact a true practitioner of Systema trains to be a "solution" in real life and not a problem at all.
Blud u do know MMA is not a martial art but a place where u prove ur martial art to be legit right? People in MMA comes in all form of martial art, yes, even "deadly martial art" that root from army like SAMBO, Wushu Sanda. There are traditional martial art like Kungfu, Karate, Muay Thai too. SO DONT MAKE ANY EXCUSE, if it cant prove itself in the cage, it is bullshido. The only way a martial art wont work out in MMA is when the martial art could not take the opponent out, dont say some shit like put on a show since BJJ still work in MMA though no one love grappling, MMA is simply just a place to prove if a martial art work or not
@@fgame8144 forgive me but I really don’t understand what you’re trying to say here.
@@SolReaver what im saying is if Systema legit, it must appear in the MMA cage one day since MMA is an open arena for every martial art. And then i list "SAMBO", "Wushu Sanda", "Wing chun", "Karate" to show that even millitary or traditional least popular martial art could be use in the cage. So if Systema legit, it must appear in the cage
@@fgame8144 oh I see where you’re coming from. However would you not agree that fighting in a “cage” and dealing with a “real life or death in the streets situation”, are two totally different scenarios? Cause there are no referees or belt rewards in the streets and usually if you get caught, you could end up in jail, right? In this sense Systema is not a “fighting sport”.
As a combatives guy I found the video from years ago interesting, and today's video a little more so. I remember talk about the seminar style display of martial arts can lead some astray. I can't take a 100 lbs woman and have her beat Brad in a life time, much less a few hours on a weekend. And forget getting partners to let me use open hand techniques in sparring. Fairbairn's stuff makes great supplemental techniques for other foundations and most military combatives are meant to either be quick lessons in disabling the enemy, or get a guy with a gun some aggression and confidence in one's self for battle. I get the same vibe from systema on this and a few other videos. Some of it might work, but it's meant a guy try to last long enough for his buddies to come with rifles.
I met Tibi at the festival of martial arts & had him hitting the powerkube
Fight perfect hooray!
never forget fight perfect!
7:35 Padman Brad let's goooo! 🔥🔥
As with any commercialised military fighting style, there always has to be some variation to make it interesting. The Russian SF folks will do a few weeks of hand-to-hand combat, before moving on to other serials. If you did that, and survived, you'd be hard as nails.
Oh wow Fight Perfect was that long ago 😮.
Just watched Black Mirror and realised Brad is a Josh Hartnett look a like
Would love to see brad explore other uncommon arts.
I'd be more interested to see if it worked in something like the Karate Combat pit
I always had the mind set of every martial art has something you can use in a legit way. There might be a bunch of BS around it but there will always be something you can pick up
I will reiterate that it's not how silly something looks or how deadly an attack is - arguably, if I carried around a spear, that's way more deadly. The basic argument is aliveness - if your art contains the practice of sparring, testing under pressure, and people actually wanting to hurt each other to a degree - that's how you develop martial prowess. BJJ is so good regarding self-defense, not because pulling guard in the street is the way to go but because you can have two 100lbs girls going at it like angry lynxes after 12 months of training, which translates to their defensive capabilities. The same is valid with wrestling or judo - I heard countless stories from bullshido specialists about how judo or wrestling doesn't work "on the street" because they don't teach striking and only train on silly soft mats and only do stuff in silly garments and don't poke eyes and rip the crotch, right? For me the basic test of "is Systema BS" would be Brad doing friendly, 20% mma rules sparring with the Systema guy and have Systema guy try to pull those funky moves. What leglockers did when everybody was saying leglocks are bad for MMA - they went to leglock people in MMA and we learned fast that some positions suck for MMA and some are good.
To the haters, there's a reason the man who trained the Secret Service is a Systema guy (Martin Wheeler). The guy I trained with was a pupil of his and once told me Systema is not for fighting. If you take it into a ring with rules, you'll likely lose. It's a system for staying relaxed and surviving. If you have to use it in the streets, you have a huge example. Particularly if you're smaller than you're opponent.
More like it’s not for sport,it is made for battle.
Tibi is Serbian! And wonderful!!! ❤
Just FYI systema has a tonne of different interpretations but they should share one similar concept: LOTS of strength training, and lots of conditioning. This guys in the video is doing what a lot of schools have done which is bypass all the basic training and get into movement. Most of the guys who have training the right way are built like Brad, but move like the skinny dude. It’s less a “martial art” and more a “martial training” system.
Even the greatest martial artist Bruce lee says be like water be empty,be no style,,its here guyz unfolding raw power💎🤓
Contact a guy in Sydney, Peter Aftanas, he’s one of the few instructors left who has kept the system intact.
I miss the old fight perfect videos. Are there anywhere we can watch them?
I'd actually pay to get them drop boxed.
I dont have them all, when the channel got shit canned I had no time to download them and I didn't keep the originals 🤦🏻♂️ those I do have I will reedit for future posts
The Fight Bible Damn! "Thanks YT" not pc enough?
I just really want to see hard sparring with this. I get those things are painful & could definitely hurt someone, but I’d like to see how it plays with someone that does lots of sparring.
Combined with other martial arts, it is very effective, to be honest. I thought it was bullshido at first. Edit - check out Kevin Secours. He was ousted from most of it and Vladimir's wife Valerie (who is an awesome person) helped water it down. Kevin is who I follow. He has a channel.
Yeah I heard that, you think mikhail gave Danil hidden stuff he didn’t give his students or you think he was fair with everyone?
@@kanedgy4562 I think Vladimir is very fair and not a guy you would want to fight. I wouldn't dare. He is actually a great guy. I just think Systema has been watered down.
How is the guy in ted going to throw you with his belly when he doesn't have one?
I think (like many other gave as a response in this video) there is somethhing to use in any martial art. Just don't confuse martial art with combat SPORT. In sports there are rules, meaning you just can't do certain stuff. So if you think something is BS, you might wanna think about the application. What is it for? How does it benefit you? This counts for many things that also apply in traditional martial arts. I mean, you ever seen someone do a kata series in an MMA game or just sparring? Or use it in the streets? It's not made for that application. The techniques in it are, but not the series.
they just need the right promotion to accept it, like king of the streets
wing chun folks clain ufc is weak for not eye gouging yet none of them have stepped up to kots
@@ronselporter4739 people should just not try to compare things to much, or place things where they don't belong. Nowadays we try to fit every martial art into MMA. Why? But other than that.. Like Bruce Lee said "It's not the martial arts that is better, it's the practitioner". I believe that you'll be the best when you can adept many styles, and use it for specific moments that helps you have an advantage on you opponent.
I've learned that there are several 'styles' of Systema but here we only know about one, and this one is considered to be a 'far left' version by the others, and some even saying it's not really Systema.
Just found u guys again!! And now it looks like ur gone...again... last vid 9 months ago.. noooooooooo!
great punches! specially for breaking your own fingers
Go to met Danil Ryabko or Vladimir Vasiliev you will se it much deeper
Systema is not sport its lethal and is just about neutralising any thereat armed or unarmed and weapon disarming , the Spetsnaz use it , its real deal
Look after russians mma's or boxing and you will see systema in their work. That's the answer of nobody resisting in a cage with them
Russian Spetsnaz train Systema. Do you think those guys are pansies?
I have an actual training DVD video on Systema and it is nothing like what is portrayed on YT videos.
Bruce Lee make 2,5 inch punch in 70' .. nothing new 🙂
Slava Rossi!!
TBH it seems pretty similar to traditional karate just not as structured
I see here double standard, Dk Yoo presented exactly same kind of motion from which have you guys made fun of and ridiculed him, while here you are suddenly openminded, you took Dk Yoo as a fraud from FIGHTER perspective while this one you look from CONCEPT perspective , heve you tasted this guy as a fighter? Is he actually good fighter? Or it suddenly doesnt matter? 🤔
That said DK did not trust his own system and decided to do boxing.
None of this works, does it hurt being punched when standing still... yeah! Of course it does. If Brad hit him with a straight right to the shoulder, it would hurt much more than this shite. It was filmed 2 years before brad fought DK, and Yes, DK yoo is a fraud.
@@TheFightBible Oh ok, I havent noticed date, my bad, yes there is so much funcy looking stuff presented on stationary target, but once it comes to fight, there is nothing more effective then boxing in term of hands strike combat.
@@borisp9163I said at the beginning... this was filmed 4 years ago.
I think all they are pointing out in the video us that being hit hurts, he does say that it's far off from being used in mma especially the UFC.
It’s hard to take advice from a guy who couldn’t KO DK Yoo.
Neither could Manny Pacquiao.... did this comment make you feel good? DK ran away for 6 rounds, fell over 9 times, hugged 33 times and they gave us the most padded boxing gloves i've ever seen! Dont like us, then leave!
miss u guys and ur content..i wish u could film and upload new videos. When's brad fighting next btw? Is he still in bkb ??
if thats true and poŵerful, why theres no systema champion in ufc and mma? prove it be the champion.
New Stuff;Old Stuff,from FIGHT-BiBLE i can never get enough!LG from Austria
give the whole "testing out bullshido" - series a rerun pleeease 🥲