Oliver's plan took 16 years to execute. He started Oxford in 2006 and the dad's obituary says 2022 so they all didn't die in a matter of months. Oliver played the long con.
@@sapphireemerald6109 43:00 Cory says something about an entire family dying within four months and then Nick says he wonders how much time has passed.
The music and costuming/fashion paired with the obituary should be a dead giveaway about the timeline. I was confused why they kept asking when the movie took place
I just wrote out the timeline. Guess I should've read the comments (lol). Also, if you noticed in the obituary, it said the father died "suddenly". If he had been sick for awhile - wouldn't she have been expecting it? (I suspect Ollie ultimately had something to do with it. Hard to say.) However, when Elspeth said something like "I'm surprised he hung on so long" - I think she was complaining more about his AGE and the fact that she had to "suffer" with him still being around. Who knows tho'?? That's why I *LOVE* this movie! It makes you think... and think... and think. :)
He started at Oxford in 2006. I think in the UK when they say class of (year) they actually mean the start, not the graduating year - so they started in 2006 and in the summer at Saltburn it’s 2007. Matches up better with the timeline of the songs they listen to and stuff
Watching two straight men go through this is a riiiiiide PS: i don't see much queer culture in them and they use "two straight guys watch-----" titles constantly, guys 💀
Looool I just paused to comment this and then saw your comment. Their reasoning and thinking feels so foreign to me - I thought the movie’s plot felt very straightforward and pretty obviously queer in its framing, but them not really picking up on Farleigh’s queerness (or at least the way this video is edited didn’t show any hint of them recognizing it) as well as the way Jacob Elordi is shot as the object of Oliver’s obsession was pretty funny. I couldnt stop chuckling about their reaction to the bathtub versus Venetia’s period. Lol
When the mirror gets fixed overnight at Saltburn it basically eludes to the fact that people can get away with anything at Saltburn. So no, Oliver likely did not get into any trouble from pulling out Elspeth's tube. He could easily claim she had a moment of lucidity, woke up, and pulled it out herself.
@@kathleenclark815Nope. It's 2006. In the UK, people don't call their classes by the year they'll graduate because different major have different durations. It takes 5 years to graduate as an engineer but only 3 years with an English major.
re: What Felix likes about Oliver... I think Felix has picked up on some of his mother's fascination with interesting charity cases. He's not as blatant about it, but it's clear that he likes playing the saviour. He presses Oliver to open up about his trauma and then gossips about it to his family. He's obviously losing interest in him until his dad "dies" and he's given the chance to be the 'nice guy' who swoops in and saves him. Oliver, being a great manipulator, picks up on this trait immediately and that's why he goes for both the traumatic backstory and the awkward persona that lets Felix feel like a a gracious benefactor for letting this weirdo into his social circle.
He killed Felix because Felix found out about his lie. He wanted to get Felix as well as the Saltburn estate but Felix messed it up for him. That is why he confessed his love to Felix in the maze..a declaration of love as well an apology because he would have to get rid of him. He regretted killing him but he also knew that Felix was a hurdle in his ultimate plan so he fucks the grave..something he wanted to do to Felix while he was alive but couldn’t.
Ollie's original plan was just to get with Felix as a way to prove that he was worth more than where he came from. Felix was the ultimate prize that he wanted to earn; everyone he charmed, seduced, and deceived along the way were just stepping stones on his path to that goal. We know this is true because why else would he have put on that performance for nobody but himself at Felix's grave? Saltburn was a consolation prize, something he was always going to get regardless but Felix was the crown he'll never get to wear.
You don't fuck someone's grave while crying because you 'wanted their life'. If anything at that point you'd be celebrating getting them out of the way. He did it because he never got the chance to do it while Felix was still alive, that's it. If he just wanted their life, why the pageantry of throwing Elspeth's lifeless arms around him after killing her? He wanted to be included in their lives, not take it from them - but he's a sociopath and taking Saltburn was the only other option, so he did that instead. It really is that simple.
@@kathleenclark815no it isn't, in the UK when it says welcome class of 2006 it's when you start not when you graduate so it was 2006 and when Oliver was at Saltburn it was the summer of 2007 👍
British high class and British middle class - vast differences between the two in terms of words, behaviours and micro culture. That’s the essence - mixed in with a psychopath and there you have it - Saltburn.
I think the craziest part about this whole movie is that the grave scene wasn't scripted.. knowing that makes it so much weirder but this was such a good movie...
When they said it wasn’t scripted they meant the scene was planned, that’s what he was supposed to do. But he can improvise however he wants, they didn’t instruct him through it, he just went with the flow.
@@NoRiceToEatthe scene isn’t in the script and initially they were going to do something else, but Keoghan and Fennel had a discussion to be less coy and Keoghan asked for a closed set. Fennell said she told Keoghan that she thought Oliver would “unzip”. The rest was left up to Keoghan. Outside of how disturbing all this is, that is an extremely high level of trust between actor and director.
A lot of people thought this film was some "Eat the Rich" stuff but it's so funny to me because all of the director's interviews were like "this movie is about obsessive freaks and disgusting perverts"
But it's obviously a parody of the ultra rich and out of touch people. Look how the mom acted. She was entitled and petty all the time. Emerald was making fun of the ultra rich aristocrat society in the UK and how they behave. Read more interviews, Emerald talked a lot about privilege. She even talked about the cost of living crisis in the UK. This movie is absolutely about privilege.
It’s not eat the rich, but definitely a commentary on privilege and how people get rich. The very first music cue is literal UK coronation music. At the end, Oliver starts his dance from the King’s room. Think about how we are brainwashed to revere kings and our modern “kings of industry “. Our system is designed to reward the worst of us the most, and those at the top have to do diabolical things to get there and stay there.
The cinematography was one of the best I’ve seen at least in over a year. Literally love this film from beginning to end with colour grading, etc. Also the plot, how they kept it so tense for over an hour… Honestly I had a wary feeling towards Oliver from the beginning, how he talked about Felix in the first two minutes gave me it. Especially after he arrived at Saltburn I began to see him as suspicious. Obviously the Jacob scenes they gave us were serving. Another film with brilliant cinematography is Call me by your name (not sure if you’ve watched it already but it’s great)
Love that Cory is the only reactor by far who wasn't shocked by "saltburn" and called most of it. So refreshing. Still a masterpiece especially barry deserves all the awards great reaction ❤ if ya havent do killing of a sacred deer for more barry goodness
The slurping the used bath water… him eat Venetia while she was at the Red River… him f’ing Farleigh… it was him eating each one of his victims, like a spider. That music box has 5 puppets, one for each character, that he made dance by pulling each of their strings. Except the Father, who did not die at Ollie’s hands. He got each of their stones and put them over the puppet that each represents. The actor that plays Ollie asked for a closed set for the grave scene and he improvised f’ing the grave. The scene where he’s naked and dancing to “Murder on the Dance floor” is filmed in the exact way Felix gave him the tour when he first arrived, except backwards. The best scene in the whole film was the end of the film with Ollie dancing around! ✨🤤✨
Came to say it's always entertaining to watch your reactions. Also, Farleigh is blood-related. His mother was a Catton, and her last name only changed to Start because she got married to Farleigh's dad.
FYI: The movie starts in the year 2006 (which was actually a *BRILLIANT* idea because, in that year, no one had their noses buried in their phones. Also, no Google to look people up... and discover a certain someone's parents are still alive. Pure! Genius!). The father ("Sir James") died in 2022 - so it's been some time. The newspaper said he died "suddenly". Ahem. Methinks I know *WHY* he suddenly died. >Wink! Wink!
@@nichellesworld1360 I totally agree! It's the word "suddenly" that they included in the obituary that shouts *GUILT* to me... If he had been sick, the paper would've said something like "Sir James has finally lost his battle with >blah, blah, blah< and passed away yesterday..." (etc.,etc.) I also think Elspeth's comment about being "surprised he lasted so long" was more of a reflection of the fact that he didn't die earlier and she had to stay in a loveless marriage for so long... Being in love with one another didn't seem to be a cornerstone of their marriage (lol). But, what do I know?? I'm just a-ramblin'... :)
@@nichellesworld1360 Hmmm, I don't necessarily agree with this theory. Mainly because Ollie was staying at Saltburn, full time, at that point. But, who knows?? 🙄 Also, Pamela was already out of the picture & therefore, not a "threat" to him. In the same way that Farleigh was no longer a threat once he was kicked out, for good.
@@carrieg1050I do think there was love there. I notice they both kick out a person connected to the other spouse. To save them from the heartbreak. Elspeth kicks out Farleigh who is James’ nephew by blood when they think he is stealing something. James kicks out Pamela (Elspeth’s friend) and Oliver (Elspeth’s living reminder of Felix). For a married couple to protect each other, I do think they cared about each other.
The actor who plays the butler Duncan said in an interview that if they made a sequel it would be called Saltburn 2: Duncan's Revenge. Some people like movies where the villain gets away with murder, but I believe in karma. It is pretty unbelievable though, especially for super rich folks who get talked about a lot and get their pictures taken constantly, that Oliver never gets suspected of any of it, interloper and all. Not a single police interrogation scene to show just how sly Ollie would be. Oliver's parents never resurface and questioned, they would know that something is a foul. Getting away with one murder is believable, but when the whole family dies, it's cause for concern, especially when a stranger inherits everything. But it's just a movie and not real life, feels more like a soap opera. I like soaps but nice and clean.
Gotta look at it from outside looking in. Felix died, but nowhere is there a suggestion of foul play. He appears to have drunk/drugged himself to death. Farleigh was kicked out by the dad. Venetia looks like suicide grieving after her brother. The dad dies over a decade later. Then, the mom after she became "sick". There have been no murders. There's no remaining family left, so mom left the house to her caretaker, a family friend, she hadn't seen in over a decade. There's no reason to investigate.
@@xejelah You make some very valid points, but realistically Farleigh knows something is amiss and would have blabbed to someone like a reporter, and thus an investigation of some kind would transpire. If they had shown Oliver making a payoff that would have made more sense, or a silhouette of Duncan at the very end of Oliver's dance, then that would have been a more satisfying ending. The little things make a difference, because the end is just the beginning.
I suggest you look up Lori Vallow. Multiple dead husbands. Even when one explicitly said she threatened him, no one investigated her when he died by gunshot. No one suspected her until children went missing. Some deaths they know she was involved in, but they can’t prove it as she got the bodies cremated.
@@xejelahespecially as the mother’s death was still during severe COVID. A medically induced coma for a ventilator is even now a complication from severe COVID spread with limited treatments. A forensic investigator on Reddit did a write up of what would most likely be the conclusion in Felix’s death. Which would be a drug overdose. At a party.
@@xejelahBut still, he killed all the Cattons and leave Duncan & Farleigh lived. He poisoned Felix and then Venetia with a cocaine laced champagne before he slit her body. He waited for James to die. Elspeth was on life support before killing her by yanking her breathing tube. The police should investigate somehow or not because Elspeth’s murder is incriminating. There’s hope that the deleted scenes should give us the full vision and detail of what’s going on with the murders.
Oliver is a sociopath... I think he genuinely had feelings for Felix and it started out as lust, but as a sociopath he doesn't know how to handle feelings that intense. So he acts out in irrational ways - like licking the bathtub and spying on him from the bushes outside. When Felix rejected him, he didn't know how to handle that either, so obsession turned deadly. Very much 'if I can't have you no on can' type of thing. But Felix was also the only one who knew the truth, so taking him out had an added bonus. When Venetia challenged him afterwards he knew he had to do the same to her. I think the dad, he just waited that one out. If you notice the obituary said 2022 which means more than a decade had passed since he left Saltburn. The dad likely died of old age - he was older than his wife after all. We don't know how much money Oliver ended up with in his deal to leave, but it must have been enough for him to live comfortably for a long time. Once the dad was gone, he knew the mom well enough to know he could work his way back into her graces and eventually into the will... and that's what he did. As for how he got away with it all - I think you have to remember that people who are that rich have all kinds of power. If they suspect Felix died of a drug overdose, they likely would have made any investigation simply 'go away' so that they didn't face any consequences themselves. Venetia was probably ruled as a suicide, since it appears that he set it up to look that way... and given that she was obviously broken over her brothers death, no one would suspect it to be anything else. After that Oliver left Saltburn for a long time, allowing him to be forgotten. So when he returned and the mother died, enough time had passed for it not to be so suspicious that he was around for 3 of the four family deaths. Oliver played the long game, and used his brainpower to study the family dynamics and know how each of them would react in certain situations then used that knowledge to play them all. The shocking scenes are interesting, people tend to focus on the shock value of them all but actually they are carefully orchestrated character development for Oliver. We go from seeing him as a shy nerd to an obsessed nerd to a manipulator.... by the time we get to the grave scene we've realized he's a full-on demented psycho.
9:03 Cory: "And that's how I roll." 5:21 Cory"Imagine being so hot people just give you stuff" Nick's just like, "Yeah, this is just like that one time that my bike broke down, so relatable" hilarious reactions guys
it’s funny how i genuinely disliked this film on first watch and then immediately loved it when i thought about it more. it’s just because i thought the first half of the film was wasted if Oliver had Saltburn in mind from the beginning, it just wouldn’t add up, but that’s because he didn’t. Felix was always at the core of it, not Saltburn. i just didn’t realize how unreliable of a narrator Oliver was.
He wasn't specifically with Saltburn in mind. He just wanted to experience the aristocrat way of living. He wanted to be old money. That's why he tricked Felix into being his friend.
@@kassiogomes8498 well, Emerald actually confirmed Oliver was in love with Felix, surprisingly not just the upper-class lifestyle as most of us thought. that’s actually part of what changed my mind about the film hah, i guess some Director’s insight will do that lol x
@@Maxwellish I rather believe he is obsessed with ultra rich people and old money than obsessed with a boy. If he is in love with Felix, it changes the story from a thriller film with psycho who goes beyond imaginable to get the only thing money doesn't buy: a royal blood line, with a commentary about british social class system, to a lame teen netflix show about a stalker, with no depth at all.
@@kassiogomes8498 fair enough. i think even though it was confirmed, Emerald leaves a lot of other things open-ended purposefully for people to interpret, so that’s cool!
Same, once I realized Oliver was an unreliable narrator and how I was upset at how he reminded me of some compulsive liars I had the misfortune of knowing, I realized I liked the film. His storytelling is peak compulsive liar “reasoning” and self aggrandizing after the fact. I also got some of the light social commentary on my very first watch.
I had a old flatmate who had a one night stand who projectile vomited over our bathroom then left it all night - I had to tell him to get it cleaned up while I went out for the day
The ripping out of the mom's tube is not an obvious murder sign. People intubated often pull out their own tubes, that is why they are sedated. Amazing film.....
@@TheAshMcG That's not really plausible with all of the other evidence and circumstances sorrounding the other victims. Plus farleigh can incriminate him as well
imo, ollie did love felix to some weird extent. he admired him, wanted to be him, but when he was invited to saltburn, it was like something cracked in him, or more like erupted. he's manipulative and as a manipulator, he saw chance everywhere. like the scenes where he's a "vampire" and sucking the drain like it's a coochie, imo, shows just how badly he was willing to get intimately close to felix by tasting the very essence of them. but when he realized he'd never get felix, after being caught in his lies, he wanted to win over saltburn as a whole to which he connects felix to tremendous which is why he told elsbeth that " I'll look after saltburn just as Felix would" as if he WAS him. just my analysis, i could be wrong tho 😭
You are right, I think most people initially get it wrong, thinking Felix had a 16 year plan. He made way too many mistakes for that to be a plan. But…compulsive liars always lie to themselves after the fact to self aggrandize. It’s pure luck that Elspeth didn’t get cancer, die in a car accident or get taken in by another grifter. If James survived Elspeth, Oliver wouldn’t have got Saltburn.
@@LadyScaper that's sooo true. even venetia noticed something off about ollie it took for felix to die tho, and farleigh was already suspicious of him with no proper reasoning besides thinking that's his replacement. so, imagine sir james being all alone. idk but i'd be sus af about a man, really a stranger, who was around my kids while they died one by one. if james was the sole survivor instead of elsbeth, ollie definitely wouldn't have gotten the estate. he would've been the worst thing to happen to the catton's and remembered it as a fun summer, as farleigh would put it, and not the beginning of his fucked up, new money meets old origin story.
in heartstopper, imogen asks nick who he's 'Chirpsing' (texting). i think it's because of the sound the phone makes when you get a text. just a thought...
Which makes want to know which cousin did Felix accidentally finger in the stairway. Does James only have one sibling? Meaning only 1 first cousin?! I need to know!!! Did Elspeth have siblings???
@@LadyScaperFelix fingered Farleigh. He didn’t say his name so we know Felix was non-consensually gratifying Farleigh. James has a sister named Fredrica Catton who gave birth to Farleigh. I don’t think Elspeth has any siblings.
Happy new year you guys... I mean its February but its your first video of 2024 ............what took you guys so longggggggggg. Your videos are my only way to escape bad days🧡🧡🧡
I notice with American reactors…it’s like they don’t realize old British architecture existed before the Harry Potter movies. Some of this architecture is easily available in Canada and parts of the Caribbean, and I am sure other places the British colonized. There is some very old French architecture in Quebec too as it was one of the earliest areas where Europeans settled in North America.
10:18 Chirpse or chirpsing is a slang word for flirting, don't know where the word came from, but also don't know where flirting come from too, also it doesn't have anything to do with birds lol. Also doesn't maths not make more sense in a plural context when talking about the subject as a whole?? We do say math but only when talking about something specific, for example, a math equation. Getting called stupid by *americans* over our own language really made my day.😂
Not you getting offended by him making a joke about how you guys are stupid, yet Europeans will do anything to be like "Americans are dumb." Lets not forget that American English is older (rhotic speech) than the english you Brits use. Both are okay to use, it just sounds funny to us Americans, very "lispy." Math used to be more popular and the common way to say mathematics, it came first (1800s) and maths was first written in 1910.
As someone who isn’t British or American, the American ethnocentrism on the English language is hilariously ludicrous. So much of their spelling looks like illiterate scrawling and they keep saying “it’s better”. No it is not.
@@LadyScaper There isn't a "better" English language, English is English. I've never seen a single American claim that our "dialect" is better, Europeans (more specifically British people) are the ones who believe that. There are threads of British people just complaining and throwing whole fits over little things Americans say or do, the way we talk or spell. Americans? We make fun of your food at worst, and always compliment a British accent when we hear one. In addition, we are all well aware that our education system is failing us more and more each generation, but we don't give two sh*ts right now, we have more pressing matters going on in this country.
Just here to say, ayyy! New to you guys channel but watched most of your videos. I won’t watch this yet, as I haven’t watched it myself 🙃 but i know this movie is traumatising. But love to you guys! 🫶🏼. Hope you’re doing well. Your horror content got me here and I’m staying for you guys. ❤️
Bachus god of wine and drunkeness XD appropriate for you guys. He'd take shots with you guys I think. PS. So getting patreon... I need to see the full version of this XD
CORY it’s honestly impressive how much you BOTCHED your explanation of the Bacchae (a Greek tragedy), Maenads (the women who go feral over Dionysus), & Dionysus (the god of wine, drama & madness; not tits lmao)
You should definetly watch the society of the snow. It just came out and it's my favourite movie already. I think you are going to have a lot of interesting things to say about that one
You gotta hear this. Did you see that empty glass cup? She must’ve drank the whole thing down and didn’t know that was a cocaine spiked drink. He poisoned her to sleep and was placed down with two razor blades. On the next scene, her blood was all over the bathroom tiles. He must’ve killed her with a dangerous weapon instead of the razor blades, but the murder part was offscreen. This doesn’t mean that Venetia killed herself. Since he hated everybody for finding him guilty and isolating him, he wanted them to die.
Are you two in the movie industry like editors or something? If so that be so funny bc you commentate on bad movies. It's like that thing where real professionals react to hilariously bad movies. I love channels like that.
Oliver's plan took 16 years to execute. He started Oxford in 2006 and the dad's obituary says 2022 so they all didn't die in a matter of months. Oliver played the long con.
Did they think that? I always thought it took years until he finally got the castle all to himself.
@@sapphireemerald6109 43:00 Cory says something about an entire family dying within four months and then Nick says he wonders how much time has passed.
The music and costuming/fashion paired with the obituary should be a dead giveaway about the timeline. I was confused why they kept asking when the movie took place
I just wrote out the timeline. Guess I should've read the comments (lol). Also, if you noticed in the obituary, it said the father died "suddenly". If he had been sick for awhile - wouldn't she have been expecting it? (I suspect Ollie ultimately had something to do with it. Hard to say.) However, when Elspeth said something like "I'm surprised he hung on so long" - I think she was complaining more about his AGE and the fact that she had to "suffer" with him still being around. Who knows tho'?? That's why I *LOVE* this movie! It makes you think... and think... and think. :)
He started at Oxford in 2006. I think in the UK when they say class of (year) they actually mean the start, not the graduating year - so they started in 2006 and in the summer at Saltburn it’s 2007. Matches up better with the timeline of the songs they listen to and stuff
Watching two straight men go through this is a riiiiiide
PS: i don't see much queer culture in them and they use "two straight guys watch-----" titles constantly, guys 💀
Straight? Um ok
@@lfi7885what are you talking about
It's hilarious 😂
Straight? They’re def giving DL vibes. Especially hat boy.
Looool I just paused to comment this and then saw your comment.
Their reasoning and thinking feels so foreign to me - I thought the movie’s plot felt very straightforward and pretty obviously queer in its framing, but them not really picking up on Farleigh’s queerness (or at least the way this video is edited didn’t show any hint of them recognizing it) as well as the way Jacob Elordi is shot as the object of Oliver’s obsession was pretty funny.
I couldnt stop chuckling about their reaction to the bathtub versus Venetia’s period. Lol
When the mirror gets fixed overnight at Saltburn it basically eludes to the fact that people can get away with anything at Saltburn. So no, Oliver likely did not get into any trouble from pulling out Elspeth's tube. He could easily claim she had a moment of lucidity, woke up, and pulled it out herself.
You literally copy and pasted this 😂 I read the exact same thing somewhere else lmfao
@@kaylachaves7323 People come to very similar conclusions about a relatively simple movie to understand, Kayla. But thanks for your input.
@@melissamendoza889 you copied it word for word and tried to pass it off as if you’re smart lmfao
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@@kaylachaves7323was gonna comment this too lol
“When does this movie take place ?” Ten seconds after the gigantic banner saying CLASS OF 2006 😂
Except it doesn't. It's 2002 when he starts Oxford. It says "welcome class of 2006" because that is when the incoming freshmen will graduate....
@@kathleenclark815Nope. It's 2006. In the UK, people don't call their classes by the year they'll graduate because different major have different durations. It takes 5 years to graduate as an engineer but only 3 years with an English major.
@@kassiogomes8498 makes sense
& the end it said 2022 !! when the dad died from the article
re: What Felix likes about Oliver... I think Felix has picked up on some of his mother's fascination with interesting charity cases. He's not as blatant about it, but it's clear that he likes playing the saviour. He presses Oliver to open up about his trauma and then gossips about it to his family. He's obviously losing interest in him until his dad "dies" and he's given the chance to be the 'nice guy' who swoops in and saves him. Oliver, being a great manipulator, picks up on this trait immediately and that's why he goes for both the traumatic backstory and the awkward persona that lets Felix feel like a a gracious benefactor for letting this weirdo into his social circle.
I think you're spot on
"Losing interest", when he senses that oliver is obsessive and attached to him
Felix having dead wife montage 💀
Nah 😭😭
That’s when I knew I was going to like this movie.
He killed Felix because Felix found out about his lie. He wanted to get Felix as well as the Saltburn estate but Felix messed it up for him. That is why he confessed his love to Felix in the maze..a declaration of love as well an apology because he would have to get rid of him.
He regretted killing him but he also knew that Felix was a hurdle in his ultimate plan so he fucks the grave..something he wanted to do to Felix while he was alive but couldn’t.
Felix and Farleigh are blood relations. Felix’s father and Farleigh’s mother are siblings. F&F (and Venetia) are first cousins.
Is she THEE cousin? XD Venetia was his sister, I'm only joking lol
@@deadsetondreams1988no venecia is Felix’s sister
Ollie's original plan was just to get with Felix as a way to prove that he was worth more than where he came from. Felix was the ultimate prize that he wanted to earn; everyone he charmed, seduced, and deceived along the way were just stepping stones on his path to that goal. We know this is true because why else would he have put on that performance for nobody but himself at Felix's grave? Saltburn was a consolation prize, something he was always going to get regardless but Felix was the crown he'll never get to wear.
He didn't want Felix. He wanted to be like Felix. He was obsessed with Felix's life. That's why he fucked the grave. It wasn't anything romantic.
You don't fuck someone's grave while crying because you 'wanted their life'. If anything at that point you'd be celebrating getting them out of the way. He did it because he never got the chance to do it while Felix was still alive, that's it. If he just wanted their life, why the pageantry of throwing Elspeth's lifeless arms around him after killing her? He wanted to be included in their lives, not take it from them - but he's a sociopath and taking Saltburn was the only other option, so he did that instead. It really is that simple.
@@Denf0also the fact that he cried at church
Best comment.
-sign saying welcome class of 2006 hanging-
Cory, 30 seconds later: “wait smoking inside when did this movie take place??”
It was 2002 tho....2006 is when the incoming freshmen will graduate
@@kathleenclark815no it isn't, in the UK when it says welcome class of 2006 it's when you start not when you graduate so it was 2006 and when Oliver was at Saltburn it was the summer of 2007 👍
i’m personally really really glad you guys posted. i hope you guys are ok. i’ve really missed you guys 🖤
I was so convinced that this was a gay romance movie that it took me up until the slurp slurp to figure out it probably wasn't lmao
Oliver in the flower bushes watching his friend sleep with a woman didn’t give a hint?
I waited a while before watching the movie because I thought it was just another queer romance drama. I was NOT prepared for what I saw but I loved it
Correct about the dad dying of old age (his obituary reads 2022 - 15-16 years after Ollie was at Saltburn)
@@kathleenclark815It was 2006. The uk is different than america.
@@niyannawhen the father died, the obituary death year says 2022.
British high class and British middle class - vast differences between the two in terms of words, behaviours and micro culture. That’s the essence - mixed in with a psychopath and there you have it - Saltburn.
Fennel says Oliver isn’t a psychopath.
Oliver is a compulsive liar, but not all compulsive liars are psychopaths.
@@LadyScaperhes both you fool.
I think the craziest part about this whole movie is that the grave scene wasn't scripted.. knowing that makes it so much weirder but this was such a good movie...
Whatttttt?
When they said it wasn’t scripted they meant the scene was planned, that’s what he was supposed to do. But he can improvise however he wants, they didn’t instruct him through it, he just went with the flow.
@@NoRiceToEatthe scene isn’t in the script and initially they were going to do something else, but Keoghan and Fennel had a discussion to be less coy and Keoghan asked for a closed set. Fennell said she told Keoghan that she thought Oliver would “unzip”. The rest was left up to Keoghan.
Outside of how disturbing all this is, that is an extremely high level of trust between actor and director.
“a scottish accent bruv” in the most un-scottish accent while saying bruv got me as a scottish person😭😭
It was supposed to be a middle class English accent but Barry couldn't really do it. His irish accent keeps showing up.
as a scottish person myself too I was pissin😭
I wanted to see the “Ask me a Sum” reaction 😭😭😭
No because there were so many scene that they missed and it kinda annoyed me😅
@@milacole4135no fr I wanted to see the “ I fingered my cousin here” part 😭
A lot of people thought this film was some "Eat the Rich" stuff but it's so funny to me because all of the director's interviews were like "this movie is about obsessive freaks and disgusting perverts"
But it's obviously a parody of the ultra rich and out of touch people. Look how the mom acted. She was entitled and petty all the time. Emerald was making fun of the ultra rich aristocrat society in the UK and how they behave.
Read more interviews, Emerald talked a lot about privilege. She even talked about the cost of living crisis in the UK.
This movie is absolutely about privilege.
It’s not eat the rich, but definitely a commentary on privilege and how people get rich.
The very first music cue is literal UK coronation music. At the end, Oliver starts his dance from the King’s room.
Think about how we are brainwashed to revere kings and our modern “kings of industry “. Our system is designed to reward the worst of us the most, and those at the top have to do diabolical things to get there and stay there.
The cinematography was one of the best I’ve seen at least in over a year. Literally love this film from beginning to end with colour grading, etc.
Also the plot, how they kept it so tense for over an hour…
Honestly I had a wary feeling towards Oliver from the beginning, how he talked about Felix in the first two minutes gave me it. Especially after he arrived at Saltburn I began to see him as suspicious.
Obviously the Jacob scenes they gave us were serving.
Another film with brilliant cinematography is Call me by your name (not sure if you’ve watched it already but it’s great)
Jacob Elordi's bathwater coming to a store near you
UK Lush came out with a limited edition Saltburn bath bomb. 😂
Love that Cory is the only reactor by far who wasn't shocked by "saltburn" and called most of it. So refreshing. Still a masterpiece especially barry deserves all the awards great reaction ❤ if ya havent do killing of a sacred deer for more barry goodness
The slurping the used bath water… him eat Venetia while she was at the Red River… him f’ing Farleigh… it was him eating each one of his victims, like a spider. That music box has 5 puppets, one for each character, that he made dance by pulling each of their strings. Except the Father, who did not die at Ollie’s hands. He got each of their stones and put them over the puppet that each represents.
The actor that plays Ollie asked for a closed set for the grave scene and he improvised f’ing the grave. The scene where he’s naked and dancing to “Murder on the Dance floor” is filmed in the exact way Felix gave him the tour when he first arrived, except backwards. The best scene in the whole film was the end of the film with Ollie dancing around! ✨🤤✨
At first he didnt want the house, after he is invited there he progresively wants it and the dad part its just good pycho luck
It wasn't luck. He patiently waits for it.
Many things can go wrong it is still luck to me. @@kassiogomes8498
I was wondering where yall where,glad to see a post yall have been missed
Came to say it's always entertaining to watch your reactions. Also, Farleigh is blood-related. His mother was a Catton, and her last name only changed to Start because she got married to Farleigh's dad.
yes oliver looks 30 but the actor looked the exact same as a teen as well😭
He looks 50 and 14 at the same time.
I literally almost threw up watching the bathtub scene it was so bad omg lmao
this is THE movie they should've been drinking in EVERY scene !!!!
My dream finallycame true! None of the commentary channels I watch have done Saltburn, thank you guys
U can watch reel rejects channel reaction . They had amazing insights on this movie 😊
FYI: The movie starts in the year 2006 (which was actually a *BRILLIANT* idea because, in that year, no one had their noses buried in their phones. Also, no Google to look people up... and discover a certain someone's parents are still alive. Pure! Genius!). The father ("Sir James") died in 2022 - so it's been some time. The newspaper said he died "suddenly". Ahem. Methinks I know *WHY* he suddenly died. >Wink! Wink!
It’s Oliver-I know it! 🤨☝🏼 I’m sure he killed Sir James…🤔
@@nichellesworld1360 I totally agree! It's the word "suddenly" that they included in the obituary that shouts *GUILT* to me... If he had been sick, the paper would've said something like "Sir James has finally lost his battle with >blah, blah, blah< and passed away yesterday..." (etc.,etc.) I also think Elspeth's comment about being "surprised he lasted so long" was more of a reflection of the fact that he didn't die earlier and she had to stay in a loveless marriage for so long... Being in love with one another didn't seem to be a cornerstone of their marriage (lol). But, what do I know?? I'm just a-ramblin'... :)
@@carrieg1050 And Today, I saw someone’s theorized question in the comments if Oliver killed cousin Pamela off-screen; I believe he did…😳
@@nichellesworld1360 Hmmm, I don't necessarily agree with this theory. Mainly because Ollie was staying at Saltburn, full time, at that point. But, who knows?? 🙄 Also, Pamela was already out of the picture & therefore, not a "threat" to him. In the same way that Farleigh was no longer a threat once he was kicked out, for good.
@@carrieg1050I do think there was love there. I notice they both kick out a person connected to the other spouse. To save them from the heartbreak.
Elspeth kicks out Farleigh who is James’ nephew by blood when they think he is stealing something. James kicks out Pamela (Elspeth’s friend) and Oliver (Elspeth’s living reminder of Felix).
For a married couple to protect each other, I do think they cared about each other.
For the people that dont know Nick and Cory made a seconde channel for all the animated movie reactions. Nick and cory 2 is the name.
THANK YOU
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The actor who plays the butler Duncan said in an interview that if they made a sequel it would be called Saltburn 2: Duncan's Revenge. Some people like movies where the villain gets away with murder, but I believe in karma. It is pretty unbelievable though, especially for super rich folks who get talked about a lot and get their pictures taken constantly, that Oliver never gets suspected of any of it, interloper and all. Not a single police interrogation scene to show just how sly Ollie would be. Oliver's parents never resurface and questioned, they would know that something is a foul. Getting away with one murder is believable, but when the whole family dies, it's cause for concern, especially when a stranger inherits everything. But it's just a movie and not real life, feels more like a soap opera. I like soaps but nice and clean.
Gotta look at it from outside looking in. Felix died, but nowhere is there a suggestion of foul play. He appears to have drunk/drugged himself to death. Farleigh was kicked out by the dad. Venetia looks like suicide grieving after her brother. The dad dies over a decade later. Then, the mom after she became "sick". There have been no murders. There's no remaining family left, so mom left the house to her caretaker, a family friend, she hadn't seen in over a decade. There's no reason to investigate.
@@xejelah You make some very valid points, but realistically Farleigh knows something is amiss and would have blabbed to someone like a reporter, and thus an investigation of some kind would transpire. If they had shown Oliver making a payoff that would have made more sense, or a silhouette of Duncan at the very end of Oliver's dance, then that would have been a more satisfying ending. The little things make a difference, because the end is just the beginning.
I suggest you look up Lori Vallow. Multiple dead husbands. Even when one explicitly said she threatened him, no one investigated her when he died by gunshot.
No one suspected her until children went missing. Some deaths they know she was involved in, but they can’t prove it as she got the bodies cremated.
@@xejelahespecially as the mother’s death was still during severe COVID. A medically induced coma for a ventilator is even now a complication from severe COVID spread with limited treatments.
A forensic investigator on Reddit did a write up of what would most likely be the conclusion in Felix’s death. Which would be a drug overdose. At a party.
@@xejelahBut still, he killed all the Cattons and leave Duncan & Farleigh lived. He poisoned Felix and then Venetia with a cocaine laced champagne before he slit her body. He waited for James to die. Elspeth was on life support before killing her by yanking her breathing tube. The police should investigate somehow or not because Elspeth’s murder is incriminating. There’s hope that the deleted scenes should give us the full vision and detail of what’s going on with the murders.
I love how different you both react at the more gross-hot-sexual scenes haha!!
YES REWATCH GONE GIRL but get someone who havent seen it yet to watch it with you guys
I can confirm that none of us Brits call texting, "chirpsing"
In 2006 maybe.
I think they meant flirting not texting. But i guess it depends on age and area.
Chirpsing meant chatting someone up 👵🏾
Oliver is a sociopath... I think he genuinely had feelings for Felix and it started out as lust, but as a sociopath he doesn't know how to handle feelings that intense. So he acts out in irrational ways - like licking the bathtub and spying on him from the bushes outside. When Felix rejected him, he didn't know how to handle that either, so obsession turned deadly. Very much 'if I can't have you no on can' type of thing. But Felix was also the only one who knew the truth, so taking him out had an added bonus. When Venetia challenged him afterwards he knew he had to do the same to her.
I think the dad, he just waited that one out. If you notice the obituary said 2022 which means more than a decade had passed since he left Saltburn. The dad likely died of old age - he was older than his wife after all. We don't know how much money Oliver ended up with in his deal to leave, but it must have been enough for him to live comfortably for a long time. Once the dad was gone, he knew the mom well enough to know he could work his way back into her graces and eventually into the will... and that's what he did.
As for how he got away with it all - I think you have to remember that people who are that rich have all kinds of power. If they suspect Felix died of a drug overdose, they likely would have made any investigation simply 'go away' so that they didn't face any consequences themselves. Venetia was probably ruled as a suicide, since it appears that he set it up to look that way... and given that she was obviously broken over her brothers death, no one would suspect it to be anything else. After that Oliver left Saltburn for a long time, allowing him to be forgotten. So when he returned and the mother died, enough time had passed for it not to be so suspicious that he was around for 3 of the four family deaths.
Oliver played the long game, and used his brainpower to study the family dynamics and know how each of them would react in certain situations then used that knowledge to play them all. The shocking scenes are interesting, people tend to focus on the shock value of them all but actually they are carefully orchestrated character development for Oliver. We go from seeing him as a shy nerd to an obsessed nerd to a manipulator.... by the time we get to the grave scene we've realized he's a full-on demented psycho.
9:03 Cory: "And that's how I roll."
5:21 Cory"Imagine being so hot people just give you stuff" Nick's just like, "Yeah, this is just like that one time that my bike broke down, so relatable"
hilarious reactions guys
I like both of you screamed in shock seeing the infamous bath tub scene. 😂😂😂
the fact that the grave scene was entirely improvised by Barry Keoghan 💀
Well semi-improvised. It wasn’t in the original script, but he and the director spoke about it beforehand so they knew he was gonna do it
Not really
it’s funny how i genuinely disliked this film on first watch and then immediately loved it when i thought about it more.
it’s just because i thought the first half of the film was wasted if Oliver had Saltburn in mind from the beginning, it just wouldn’t add up, but that’s because he didn’t.
Felix was always at the core of it, not Saltburn.
i just didn’t realize how unreliable of a narrator Oliver was.
He wasn't specifically with Saltburn in mind. He just wanted to experience the aristocrat way of living. He wanted to be old money. That's why he tricked Felix into being his friend.
@@kassiogomes8498 well, Emerald actually confirmed Oliver was in love with Felix, surprisingly not just the upper-class lifestyle as most of us thought.
that’s actually part of what changed my mind about the film hah, i guess some Director’s insight will do that lol x
@@Maxwellish I rather believe he is obsessed with ultra rich people and old money than obsessed with a boy.
If he is in love with Felix, it changes the story from a thriller film with psycho who goes beyond imaginable to get the only thing money doesn't buy: a royal blood line, with a commentary about british social class system, to a lame teen netflix show about a stalker, with no depth at all.
@@kassiogomes8498 fair enough.
i think even though it was confirmed, Emerald leaves a lot of other things open-ended purposefully for people to interpret, so that’s cool!
Same, once I realized Oliver was an unreliable narrator and how I was upset at how he reminded me of some compulsive liars I had the misfortune of knowing, I realized I liked the film. His storytelling is peak compulsive liar “reasoning” and self aggrandizing after the fact.
I also got some of the light social commentary on my very first watch.
I had a old flatmate who had a one night stand who projectile vomited over our bathroom then left it all night - I had to tell him to get it cleaned up while I went out for the day
The ripping out of the mom's tube is not an obvious murder sign. People intubated often pull out their own tubes, that is why they are sedated. Amazing film.....
Ugh, that’s even worse. I guess it would be hard to prove that she didn’t momentarily wake up?
I mean his fingerprints are all over it
@lonerebeI He could have been trying to prevent her from pulling it out....also you need a smooth surface for prints and it can't be wet....
@@TheAshMcG That's not really plausible with all of the other evidence and circumstances sorrounding the other victims. Plus farleigh can incriminate him as well
This is not a Wattpad story. The accent Oliver has is Liverpool. And at the start of the film it’s set in 2006 and at the end 2022.
This movie is disturbingly good and one of the best movies of 2023
imo, ollie did love felix to some weird extent. he admired him, wanted to be him, but when he was invited to saltburn, it was like something cracked in him, or more like erupted. he's manipulative and as a manipulator, he saw chance everywhere. like the scenes where he's a "vampire" and sucking the drain like it's a coochie, imo, shows just how badly he was willing to get intimately close to felix by tasting the very essence of them. but when he realized he'd never get felix, after being caught in his lies, he wanted to win over saltburn as a whole to which he connects felix to tremendous which is why he told elsbeth that " I'll look after saltburn just as Felix would" as if he WAS him. just my analysis, i could be wrong tho 😭
You are right, I think most people initially get it wrong, thinking Felix had a 16 year plan. He made way too many mistakes for that to be a plan. But…compulsive liars always lie to themselves after the fact to self aggrandize. It’s pure luck that Elspeth didn’t get cancer, die in a car accident or get taken in by another grifter. If James survived Elspeth, Oliver wouldn’t have got Saltburn.
@@LadyScaper that's sooo true. even venetia noticed something off about ollie it took for felix to die tho, and farleigh was already suspicious of him with no proper reasoning besides thinking that's his replacement. so, imagine sir james being all alone. idk but i'd be sus af about a man, really a stranger, who was around my kids while they died one by one. if james was the sole survivor instead of elsbeth, ollie definitely wouldn't have gotten the estate. he would've been the worst thing to happen to the catton's and remembered it as a fun summer, as farleigh would put it, and not the beginning of his fucked up, new money meets old origin story.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE! I love you guys, keep up the amazing work :)
I love that seeing him eat a candybar sideways is the final nail in the coffin "He's a psychopath for sure" 😂
in heartstopper, imogen asks nick who he's 'Chirpsing' (texting). i think it's because of the sound the phone makes when you get a text. just a thought...
Murder on the dance floor🎶🎶🎶
me when i see nick and cory posted a new video: YES YES YES GIRL😏
The school is Oxford in England. Been around since 1096 😮 that’s why the lighting is that way
Like…have American not heard of Oxford University? A school that is FAR more prestigious then US Ivy League schools. It’s nearly 1000 years old!!
Felix and Farleigh are blood related because Felix’s dad and Farleigh’s mom are brother and sister😎
Which makes want to know which cousin did Felix accidentally finger in the stairway. Does James only have one sibling? Meaning only 1 first cousin?! I need to know!!!
Did Elspeth have siblings???
@@LadyScaperFelix fingered Farleigh. He didn’t say his name so we know Felix was non-consensually gratifying Farleigh. James has a sister named Fredrica Catton who gave birth to Farleigh. I don’t think Elspeth has any siblings.
15:30 Has to be one of the funniest edits on this channel 😭
i always love the reactions to barry slurping the bath water
Chirpsing is totally a 2010+ word that's totally out of place here. Someone has a tardis.
reaction to INTERESTING scenes
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Happy new year you guys... I mean its February but its your first video of 2024 ............what took you guys so longggggggggg.
Your videos are my only way to escape bad days🧡🧡🧡
Harry Potter some parts were filmed in Oxford so
I notice with American reactors…it’s like they don’t realize old British architecture existed before the Harry Potter movies. Some of this architecture is easily available in Canada and parts of the Caribbean, and I am sure other places the British colonized. There is some very old French architecture in Quebec too as it was one of the earliest areas where Europeans settled in North America.
Jacob elordi isn’t american btw shhdhdd. Like his accent is pretty much that one lmao
Elordi is Australian.
I've never been this early for anything, not even for my grandad's funeral
This movie is made for this channel
The movie was trash, it was basically shock value “pron”. Only famous for trashy scenes. Storyline was so lame. But I love yall 😂
10:18 Chirpse or chirpsing is a slang word for flirting, don't know where the word came from, but also don't know where flirting come from too, also it doesn't have anything to do with birds lol.
Also doesn't maths not make more sense in a plural context when talking about the subject as a whole?? We do say math but only when talking about something specific, for example, a math equation.
Getting called stupid by *americans* over our own language really made my day.😂
Not you getting offended by him making a joke about how you guys are stupid, yet Europeans will do anything to be like "Americans are dumb." Lets not forget that American English is older (rhotic speech) than the english you Brits use. Both are okay to use, it just sounds funny to us Americans, very "lispy." Math used to be more popular and the common way to say mathematics, it came first (1800s) and maths was first written in 1910.
As someone who isn’t British or American, the American ethnocentrism on the English language is hilariously ludicrous.
So much of their spelling looks like illiterate scrawling and they keep saying “it’s better”. No it is not.
@@LadyScaper There isn't a "better" English language, English is English. I've never seen a single American claim that our "dialect" is better, Europeans (more specifically British people) are the ones who believe that. There are threads of British people just complaining and throwing whole fits over little things Americans say or do, the way we talk or spell. Americans? We make fun of your food at worst, and always compliment a British accent when we hear one. In addition, we are all well aware that our education system is failing us more and more each generation, but we don't give two sh*ts right now, we have more pressing matters going on in this country.
@@LadyScaper Gods you're worse than both of them.
OOHH. yeah but Jacob in the movie isn't all that great of a person either
pretty sure the dad unalived himself from grief/depression in 2022, least thats how i understood it
This movie was crazy. You guys should react to Wonka with Timothee Chalamet (i dont know how to spell his name 😭)
felix and farleigh are blood related. his dad and farleighs mom are siblings
Maths- Mathematics..😢😂😂 And it's definitely not pronounced like that😂😂
corys commentary is making me laugh so hard
Just here to say, ayyy! New to you guys channel but watched most of your videos. I won’t watch this yet, as I haven’t watched it myself 🙃 but i know this movie is traumatising. But love to you guys! 🫶🏼. Hope you’re doing well. Your horror content got me here and I’m staying for you guys. ❤️
Bachus god of wine and drunkeness XD appropriate for you guys. He'd take shots with you guys I think.
PS. So getting patreon... I need to see the full version of this XD
They used Oxford to film scenes from Harry Potter so you’re right, Nick!
I am SO glad I didn't watch this on my own.
THIS IS PERFECT
Farleigh is blood related
CORY it’s honestly impressive how much you BOTCHED your explanation of the Bacchae (a Greek tragedy), Maenads (the women who go feral over Dionysus), & Dionysus (the god of wine, drama & madness; not tits lmao)
Dionysus is who makes the Maenads go batshit (God magic yadda yadda) & uses them to rip apart men (based in most cases honestly) 🫡
21:35 the “oh” from nick killed me 😭💀
This made my fucking day 😂
Great movie!! You guys were fun.
WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH?!
You should definetly watch the society of the snow. It just came out and it's my favourite movie already. I think you are going to have a lot of interesting things to say about that one
I think you guys should watch The Talented Mr Ripley now
You guys are fucking hilarious 😂 😭
pinky and the brain reacts.... 🤣😂😆
Missed you guys
I relate to Nick a lot.... and that kinda scares me
Oliver has no feelings for Felix. He doesn’t love him romantically he wants to BE Felix. He wants to devour him.
Exactly
As a brit, im being so frl rn, no one uses chirpsing 💀
(also, we don’t live in castles, i deadass live in a council estate 😟)
These are british aristocrats, not poor british.
@@kassiogomes8498 using poor is a bit odd, but yes, I know. just trying to make a joke, no need to get like that lol
Top 3 of my 2023 films fr🔥🔥🔥
barry is 5’8 jacob and farleigh are 6’5
Oh my fucking god!! I watched the movie with you guys today haha, LOVE IT BUT WTF
honestly this movie was so tame to me but vv excited for ur reactions love u guys 🫶🏽🫶🏽
Oooooh edgy…. Only watches A Serbian film….
It was definitely overhyped for me
I'm crying- the spit that just flew out of Nick's mouth at 12:40 😭
Nick: “No I wanna love him!” Lmao
YES PLEASE watch gone girl ❤❤
venetia did kill herself but he planted those blades there knowing she would do it bc she couldnt live without jacob and was in a low state mentally
You gotta hear this. Did you see that empty glass cup? She must’ve drank the whole thing down and didn’t know that was a cocaine spiked drink. He poisoned her to sleep and was placed down with two razor blades. On the next scene, her blood was all over the bathroom tiles. He must’ve killed her with a dangerous weapon instead of the razor blades, but the murder part was offscreen.
This doesn’t mean that Venetia killed herself. Since he hated everybody for finding him guilty and isolating him, he wanted them to die.
Would definitely wanna watch Gone Girl reaction vid guys
You should react to SOCIETY OF THE SNOW
Are you two in the movie industry like editors or something? If so that be so funny bc you commentate on bad movies. It's like that thing where real professionals react to hilariously bad movies. I love channels like that.
I was like why does this reaction vid feel so different ?? YALL ARENT DRINKING