This was the end of the travellers, by their own means. I remember the free festivals in the early 80s, and there were great. But the government decided to stomp all over that free life. My dad knew lots of the original hippy convoy, and they were a good bunch to begin with. My dads bus was camped in private woodland, with permission from the owner of the woodland, but it was burned to ashes because of the hatred of hippy travellers. The government and media made them all look like monsters, but most of them were pretty cool. Unfortunatly the minority ruined it for the rest of the law abiding travellers. No one mentions the free food kitchens at festivals, which the travellers set up at festivals, for people who had no money, or food. People could just turn up and get a free meal, provided by donations by festival goers, asked for by travellers going round with collection boxes. I guess it was all part of Maggi Thatchers modern Britain. There are no free things anymore, just look at the commercialism that is around us these days, there is NOTHING free anymore. That is a shame that every has to make a pound or two, otherwise we could have a beautiful country/world. Bit maney talks, and freedom can fuck off. Sad times we live in, unless you are rich. But those guys did themselves no favours by leaving a mess where ever they went. A prime example of that was the Elephant Fayre in Cornwall, that was stopped because of antics of a minority of travellers, and that was a really cool festival. Times change, shame really. They were some great times, shame it had to end.
That was the end to freedom of choice in this country. The criminal justice act curtailed the freedom of assembly together. This affects more that just travellers; they did not like the unions protesting. They seem to think they own this country and the people in it. The only authority they have over you is the authority you give them. I am an authority of one. I make moral decisions based on my thoughts and beliefs.
@@garywillow6578not true what you say about authority. Only if you are willing to go to prison if you break the laws made by “authority”. It’s all very cool and hippy romantic saying you’re an authority of one etc but the reality is different. You are not free. Nor am I. It’s an illusion.
We've got the Criminal Justice Act to thank for that, so many friends moved to Ireland, Spain, Portugal but there was still a traveller scene n sites all over the country, still is today. People who could afford it brought land but struggled to get planning permission to live on it....? The government f**ked us over from all angles. A.C.A.B !
@@willpolr we weren't free we were at war and not by choice with society, the government, the authorities, the news channels and public opinion the police would create most of the problems then bulls**t news stories twisted the facts lied by omission n would make us out to look like the instigators .....
did u see the bit ware the woman was harping on about feeling unsafe and wuldnt let her children blah blah well?? in the past years anyone ever hear about travelers ever abuse?? like all those Pakistani lot Rotherham?? or BBC lot DLT or that Cigar muncher FOR example?? Travelers new age lot for example were ALWAYS wrongfully treated by society and regularly smashed up by the Authorities too for good measure.. but I still miss those people back then... luv luv x
After beanfield , I’d have to say we aggged the police , I never got touched by a copper and in fact at two different sites , one used to bring us spuds , one used to come up wth other food . It has to work both ways , yep there are bad people but there were some misogynistic twats on site and I’m sure there were bad cpppers , but they did put up wth a tonne of mouth from us -just saying .we had a documentary lad from uni , some dickhead from site stole his camera from the car he was sleeping in , he had all the footage after the farm when they split us up 6 at a time .
Well I'm a child of the movement from the 70s & 80s it was trauma all around from police and festival goers. As for the movement we all know sid was a nonce
I named my first born after a traveler kid I met. I was a unruly child and the only place I felt safe was on site with real people. I now live in a house , I hate it....one day I will live my dream which is simply this.
Ahh Scud!!! So lovely to see his face!!!! :) A beautiful soul . I hope things have worked out well for him.. not seen him in years. If I had land he could live on it forever.
Absolutely Brilliant Documentary just get another chance to watch it again is honourable, with such appalling discrimination against all travelling families trying to live on the road alternatively which is the beauty of nature with freedom of choice. Where's There's Discrimination There's Jealously Of Hate 🌄🌈🌅💖🌠
But they dont live alternatively, they claim benefits, just like millions of other loosers. I would have a little more respect if i was not contributing for them to enjoy "freedom". Why do they not work for ten years, earn enough to buy land, set up their "alternative" society, and have the pride to support their families, without relying on the state ?
@@AmysTrilogyyea they DID live alternatively you absolute prick. So because they claim dole that means they aren’t leading an alternative lifestyle? Are you really that thick? Do you get ya tory knickers in such a twist when people claim child support costs at YOUR expense ya numpty? Get a life. And a hug.
@@AmysTrilogyi think the fact they live off extorted tax money is the only legitimate criticism of them really. If you think about it, a large number of them are from middle/upper middle class families and their parents have probably paid more than enough into the system to cover the meagre benefits they used to get- not that I agree on either count
I love the travellers mum talking in this video... I live in a vehicle and she completely understands that people are just people and have the right too live how we choose too...
You’re totally knickertwisted by the money we ‘sponged’ So back to brick -£££££££££££££6 Housing benefit-council tax benefit - costing more as we are using all the facilities - actually do the maths fool - many people didn’t sign on - but if they did it was still less than keeping us bricked up would of cost . A lot if the time we were invited onto land but the neighbours couldn’t cope . Make it make sense please- you’re spouting arse ⭐️✨
@@neelo79it was funded far more by parents of the travellers trust me 😂 plenty of trustafarians back then. I had plenty of traveller mates and went to free parties for 10 years. So many people scrounge off the state far worse than travellers ever did! Jeez I see a lot of em in my job. A lot of the hatred directed at travellers and anyone else free spirited is bloody jealousy / envy at actually having some balls.
My lovely Ush , John Derek , and Becky , the language the way the news used was so obhorrent , still glad we kept on and on ✨🥰 Wish my parents were as cool as him , didn’t help , they got offered acid at the gate first time they pulled onto site to visit me 🤣🤣🤣
Crazy, i loved the travellers and Glastonbury was never the same without them. To think that woman said that, what's she saying now in 2021 about the government attack on kids, friends and family, the true vermin has risen it's head.
Brilliant, I remember that lay-by well, a Matador got stuck in the ditch, another Matador tried to pull it out but got stuck so along came a Scammel Explorer and pulled both of them out, I was riding around on a mates Scewbald horse called Legs.
16 minutes in and seeing the vicar out supporting hate shows the hypocrisy when his bible is full of messages like Hebrews 13:2 Do not neglect to show love to strangers, for by this some have entertained angels without knowing it.
Also look up Mutoid waste system, they incorporated installations at Glastonbury such as car stone henge the life of the festival was where these people were. Incidentally the Mutoids did some of the installations at the London Olympics. They were just as important if not more so than the prevailing pop culture of the day
Last time I went to see my folks, now both in their 80s.. my mum whose now very frail told me with a tear in her eye that she was constantly scared for my safety. All they saw was negative news reports. I feel pretty bad about that, but at the time in my 20s I just lived the life I'd fallen into and it was great fun, stressful as fk at times but hey.. Just sad my folks spent 5 or 6 year's worrying.. apparently as soon as I moved onto the canal they stopped worrying so much.
28:00 LOL at the end there - ironically those people from Middlezoy are making themselves de facto travellers by living outside on that picket line 24/7.
norepetitivebeats when your English is poor , as I it makes it so hard sometimes in some context to follow when silliness is used with the words-Middlezoys ????
Back in the day if the people of Middlezoy were New age Traveller's, there'd have been 500 riot police, riot van's, helicopter's and god knows what at their protest. They were frightened of NA traveller's and not "gypsies" apparently. The NA travellers I knew left a site clean and tidy, unlike the "gypsies" I've met who shit everywhere and left sites in a total fucking mess, not to mention nicking everything for miles or ripping folk off tarmacking their drives with 1/4" of tarmac and charging around a grand for 20 mins "work" and threatening violence if anyone baulked at the price. There were bad NA traveller's as well of coarse, and I've met great "gypsies"/Irish travellers, but the reaction of the government at the time was way over the top with propaganda being provided by the papers. Nowt's changed, the hater's have immigrant's in their sight's now and still hate dole scroungers. As if having a job or owning property excuses bad manner's and prejudice.
I quit in 94 and returned to my brick house.. U can read my comments on other videos on here.. When I watch these im flooded with memories and just want to write about the experiences, the truths and the lies.. And like I always keep saying Glastonbury hadnt been a bloody travelers festival since the late 70s.. Free festivals u can look up that are real travellers festies were the likes of torpedo town... Village idiots... Cisbury ring.. Rutland free.. Green man.. Silver moon..white goddess.. Twisted tree.. On and on.. Search for those and im sure ull be steered to more of the same.. Good times that will never be repeated. Sadly.
Thank you for the post There was a program on tv one time it followed one small group , and at one point as they drove down the stone Avenue to Avebury. I'd so like to see that one again .
was the first year I had my circus in the greenfields at Pilton, set it up as a way to stay on the road and it worked, 25 years, no problems from the police or any authority, in fact we were welcomed. Amazing what a slight change can make, we were all still the same people.
Nice nice nice.... Shame tho that we couldn't all have had a circus lol and weren't talented as such.. Some like myself ended up back here in society.. (tho still doing same but in one place.. Ssssssh)
@@KarrierBag hello there bud.. Yes I read ur post somewhere else I thjnk, I read someone said about boats.. U know for such a long time I always dreamed of living on a barge but the cost dissuaded me, even tho I've never actually gone and looked, I know it's a few thousand and I've never had much more than a grand in my hand ever(my own money lol) and also I wasnt sure of how u actually go about it.. Im almost 50 so my days of adventure and probably done now. There's many reasons I veered back into the house, if u come across my comments on other old travellers videos ull see. Its a shame because although I still follow a head lifestyle I don't in other regards.. At 13/ 14 ish I started listening to electro Street sounds (and breakdance etc) then housenation got me into house, then acid House, then rave and then I met some travellers who ingraciated me into the scene in 91..that first festival was a culture shock. Lol. I came back home via pitching my caravan at my Romany uncles site and then year or so later a tent in another uncles back garden then into the house and shortly after was given a house with gf of time with our child. Here I stayed.. And those 25 years u been busy ive been here and spent my 25 procrastinating.. I had a dog given me by a traveller lad called Lee (who was quite baldish on top of head but had a huge thick single dread at back of head.. Lol, very recognisable) at time I hadn't long been into the life and he said look I don't want u to have her and then go back to house I want these dogs living life on the road.. Of course years later her and her daughter both died of old age here in a house.. (not sure he ever knew, never see him since that time) anyway rambling on to u..lol...but yes a boat I'd like that but maybe I'm like prisoners who been in such a long time, u know like institutionalised, maybe I've been whatever the version is living in a house... Tho must say the huge contradictory aspect of travellers life and the whole concept of living a better way than the bee hive/ant nest mentality of this society I only saw replicated in almost the same way in the traveller community of mini capitalist socialist free reign anarchaistic individuals.. Lol.. Who always called society and bemoaned it verhimetly yet went to get the dole money and visited Dr's and hospitals, oh and still bought stuff from shops.. So I found all that quite head numbing (although how do u escape society without self sufficiency in everything?) so listening to that round the camp fire night after night also had a modicum of sway in my coming back to house life... There I go again... Rambling.. Anyway ill leave ur ears alone at this point... Any chance u can give me a quick overview of how u live on the water ur selves??? And how its replicable without putting on any kind of entertainment for money (as I'm not skilled in that way.. Lol) nice to hear from u. Very interesting concept.
I believe in freedom and have lived it but don’t sponge off the system if your not contributing and have decided not to participate in that system and don’t vandalise or leave mess simple,
I was there, never ever paid to get in though. It was like Stonehenge, take a week end break to Glastonbury then back to SH. last time we went, we did have to wait for people to give us their wrist bands as it was quite massive &security every where
You notice how not one of the New Age Travellers in this expresses even a flicker of concern for their own children. The conditions are clearly filthy, dangerous and as many of them admit destitute yet they are oblivious as to how deeply damaging it is for young kids and babies to be subjected to that lifestyle choice. I hope they all got done for child neglect, but I doubt any of them did.
Lovely Irene! Ironic though that the weird villagers are camping out round a fire singing songs at the end. I mean thats all romany and travellers wanna do. LOL
Glastonbury started off as a free festival by the travellers not many people know that but i will say festival in the world 🌎 been a few times if ever get the chance go brilliant 👏 👌 👍 I grew up with these people and it was brilliant really 👏 😀
Traveller entertainment was free, now look at the festivals, hundreds of pounds if ur lucky enough to get a ticket. The culture is proscribed where as the hippies bought there own entertainment that had nothing to do with consumerism. Glastonbury is for the middle classes these days. They don't know what they are missing
1993, my first year at Glastonbury, what an eye opener that was! That was first of three in a row but even then it was starting to change for the worse.
Mixed , some were from well to do families and may or may not have had that to fall back in , others had come out of the cities with a dole card and very little else .
Last ticket i brought was £78 after that i jumped the fence or got a stamp. I went from the 22nd to the 28th one but could see it changing for the worst each year so stopped going.
The year Semtex Paul got battered by security really badly ?- that was nasty But might have been earlier I think lining up time wth what dribbled version of time in my head 🌺✨
Oil running out!! You are not buying that shit. All oil based products can be made from plant based ethanol fact1 internal combustion engines make more power on ethanol fact2if you grow the right plants they consume more co2 than they release in processing and burning. It's a fucking con mate the whole electric car bollocks electricity from nuclear power stations and a lithium battery recycling fucking nightmare in 20 years time. As for this clip 90% of these new age travelers (the middle class kids) soon grew out of the screen they finished their fancy middle class education's on mummy's and daddy's healthy trust fund and went on to be the wankers they pretended to despise. The other 10% (the working class kids) had no escape route so it was smack or jail often both and that's why it died a death. I myself was found guilty of possession with intent (ecstasy) in 1988 I served 2 years of a 3 year sentence. On my release I found all the people with posh accents had gone the rest where unfit smacked up parents, I moved straight on fitted in and became another tax payer.
These folk will be the last the masses look to when the oil runs out. These folk contribute zilch to the community now, what are they going to contribute to the masses when the shit hits the fan?
If they didnt look like overused toilet brushes they would have had a lot of support. The police and government would not have been allowed to "give the travellers less rights" . As if rights are theirs to give or with-hold.
It can't possibly be the travellers fault if they aren't has smartly dressed as other people as the travellers don't have as much money as other people have to be able to spend on furniture or clothes as well!
So they were roaming around the country collecting welfare (at the expense of taxpayers) & upset they couldn't get into a festival for free, even though everyone else had to buy tickets. And they can't understand why people have a problem with them. Did I miss something?
To Dwayners13, I think you are missing something. But at the same time 1993 you have a view of part of the then social problem. It was a bit of a turning point for those New Age (NA) Travellers as they were having to deal with the social change of attitudes towards them. IE they were having to learn they were not welcome. That was part of the social change. In former decades they would have had a site to go to. They would have been welcomed. I agree their free entry expectation at the ticket event seems on the surface to be an over site on their behalf. But their belief they may be welcomed there were not with out the fact that in previous years they did seem welcomed. But attitudes changed and decisions were made by Glastonbury Pilton Festival organisers to ban their entry as well as to make known to them their were unwelcome and there were no free tickets. Up to 1985 and including 1985 (Tickets were only £16.00s) there would have been room for them or an adjacent feild they were allowed. But due to some security issues (Mass on site security confrontation, 3 landrovers burnt, criminal damage, illegal drug dealing) in 1985 the attitude changed. In no way do I think they should have free tickets. But in understading of the social conditions of the times there was an other factor that likly contributed to the change of organisers attitudes. 1984 was the last legal free Stone Henge festival (Attendance about 58,000). In 1985 the Stone Henge Festival was illegalised with thousands of hippies, NA traverlers and festival goers not knowing it was banned that year or that the British Parliment had voted against allowing it again. Thousands travelled hoping for a festival only to find 600 riot police there to stop them. A battle (Battle of the Bean Feild) resulted. The festival was prevented. But travellers then needing a site moved on to Glastonbury with their Beanfeild battle baggage (Emotion, psychological traumatic baggage (their) problem, you may say). The closure of the anticipated Free site formerly attended by 58,000 festival goers which had it, occurred would have occurred the same weekend as the Glastonbury Festival. So with tens of thousands of free Festival goers with out their usual Free Site, bands and festival to go to. Glastonbury became a logical next best option. Glastonbury was already that year finding it's site too small and had increased it's size by 100 acres. A 100 acres with out anticipating the extra from the then prevented 58,000 attendee Stonehenge Free Festival. Had the Free festival been allowed then the traverlers would not have been at Glastonbury 1985. Therefore the Security issue would not have occurred. Tensions would not have arisen. Travellers would not have had their Bean Feild problems along with their problems occuring due to their usual incomes for June 1985 not been earnt as their anticipated Festival (where some earnt their income) was prevented. But the problem did occur and resulted in the Glastonbury Festival organisers deciding to prevent the NA Traveler, Gypsys, Peace Convoy in further years. Prior to the 1985 decision, a few penniless traveller hippies would have been no problem and they would just be absorbed or just be part of the festival. The festival licence could cope with out stress and a good time was the general result (The few poor absorbed or accomodated). But 58,000 or the increasing numbers could not just be absorbed. The licence had not the capacity to grow so vast, so quickly. The demands were stresses that would demand responses and actions. Actions to prevent licence capacity breaches and therefore the closure or prevention of further licence permits for future years. So the resulting Glastonbury Festival security situation of 1985 led to the decision to prevent furture entry by the NA Gypsy Traveler's Peace Convoy. They had lost their two main sites in 2 years, Or in that year 1985 if the decision to prevent their furture entries occurred that year. So in later years it was a learning experience for them. There had been a change. Yes there had been free entry in former years as well as yes it seems a bit outrageous for those or hundreds of NA Gypsys traverlers to turn up with expectations of a free ticket. But the that 1985 and former festivals were separated by the decision there would be no free entry for them. No free feild. Everyone else didn't have to buy a ticket, as in many former years there were plenty of worker tickets or wanted labourers who would work just for entry. But evolutionary events would change Glastonbury Festival in to a political commercial event. So going back to the evolutionary origins. Of the early 70s and sixties. The event was a hippy style festival. A small convoy of travelling experienced hippies with bands, eletric or acoustic musical instruments, their own music, buses, generators, singers, groupies, stages and assortment of people on the road was often a welcom sight to prospective festival organisers as the convoy of festival people and equipment made the festival. In affect it was a ready made festival nucleus. Ready to set-up, play, preform and supply food, jewlery, camping, washing, and other festival paraphernalia. Then after usually they provided the litter pickers, deconstruction workers and eventually the buses and coaches to carry the remaining stragglers away. Many did not receive income support. As their incomes were from the festival(s). For many the 70s and first half of the eighties were busy lucative years. But things had been a changing. No longer was there a small festival convoy. The so called New Age Gypsys Traveller Peace Convoy had emerged. A different breed. More politically active. More anarchical, part terriorist, part punk, more subversive and less caring, less legal and nothing really to do with the original hippy style peace activists of the former sixties peace movement. They may have called them self peace Convoy. But peace or the hippy peace ideologies were something they were not. In the early years a small convoy of sucessful festival workers could easily carry a hundred or two penniless workers just looking for a free ride to the next festival worksite. But by 1984 after the Peace Convoy had emerged the festival Convoy was some two hundred vehicles. Maybe 50 buses 40 coaches, stalls, trucks, caravans and cars. The convoy had morphed. Changed. The New Age Convoy were no longer looking for a festival. They just needed a site. They were large enough to be the festival it self. But that in part then became the problem. IE. There was going to be no site available. Decisions were made by the Government to prevent access. Maybe also to break it up. To prevent it growing or prevent it arriving at a suitable festival site. Authorities took on a new attitude than if they are travellers then they ought to be travelling. The Authorities then made over night road side stops offenses. The convoy was being prevented from reaching a stopping destination. Being prevented from reaching work or a site where they could work. That Peace Convoy group could no longer earn enough to support themselves or their equipment or any one else. They were being targeted. Unlike the early small festival folk who worked to maintain themselves, their vehicles as well as feed and provide for a number of less successfull travelling workers. Times had changed. The Glastonbury Festival Organizers changed from supporters of the early hippy counter culture peace movement to commercialisation. But that change had to permeate the consciousness of those who evolved from the movement they used to support. So there had to be a time for that change (Non welcome change) to be understood by some of the less affluent hopefull attendies. My view is. The prevention to sites, the breaking up resulted in their loss of access to food, either paid, communal or free. Access to work, or the supportive work of others. IE. The prevention of their work drove many to the DHSS when previously they may have had their needs met by their own work or the work of the festival workers. Every Free Festival always had generally it's own free food kitchen and distribution. Usually provided for by stall holder contributions and free food community workers. So. In the early years they were not roaming the country side collecting DHSS welfare. The festivals had their own welfare. But from the 2nd half of the nineteen-eighties (1985-1990) those Festival welfare services were along with the Convoy being prevented from attending free festivals as the free festival sites were being prevented from generally being granted. So yes many did end-up on welfare payments.
@@paulmaryon9088 Chill out Paul , I had some great times at "Free Festivals" set up by travellers, I'm thankful for the fun and colour and wisdom I found. Some nasty fucks and scenes I saw, but mostly were nice well meaning people.
How do or how did? There is a fundamental difference with how they used to prior to the forceful prevention of the Free Festivals 1985. Prior to 1985 there were a thousand ways to earn a living or just to survive the festival. Much of course depends on the traveller's skills or his equipment. But most every festival goer has need from dawn till dusk. So a traveller with a van or 7.5 ton truck can easily (weather permitting) roll to the shops to stock up or a thousand or hundred muchibles or liquid fluid. Hand crafted Jewellery was always popular. A site with a thousand vehicles is of course going to be a boom town for a mecanic with a st of spanners and grease gun. Making records earnt some handsomely. Delivering wood or fuel earns money. Delivering any usable commodity earns. Working vehicles are always useful. Can you imagine how popular a guy with a steam engine and electric dynamo would have been? You could just have a couple of swings or a bouncy castle. Do not confuse these being pushed around in the video with those earning a living at a festival. As they in the video are clearly not earning a living. But even a milk man and milk float could sell out a whole truck to the dawn campers before he reloads for his regular delivery route. Pre 1985, glaziers could cut glass. Painters could paint. Electricians could do electrical work, stage builders build stages. Cinema builders built cinemas etc etc. Then there were also the artists & preformers.
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This was the end of the travellers, by their own means. I remember the free festivals in the early 80s, and there were great. But the government decided to stomp all over that free life. My dad knew lots of the original hippy convoy, and they were a good bunch to begin with. My dads bus was camped in private woodland, with permission from the owner of the woodland, but it was burned to ashes because of the hatred of hippy travellers. The government and media made them all look like monsters, but most of them were pretty cool. Unfortunatly the minority ruined it for the rest of the law abiding travellers. No one mentions the free food kitchens at festivals, which the travellers set up at festivals, for people who had no money, or food. People could just turn up and get a free meal, provided by donations by festival goers, asked for by travellers going round with collection boxes. I guess it was all part of Maggi Thatchers modern Britain. There are no free things anymore, just look at the commercialism that is around us these days, there is NOTHING free anymore. That is a shame that every has to make a pound or two, otherwise we could have a beautiful country/world. Bit maney talks, and freedom can fuck off. Sad times we live in, unless you are rich. But those guys did themselves no favours by leaving a mess where ever they went. A prime example of that was the Elephant Fayre in Cornwall, that was stopped because of antics of a minority of travellers, and that was a really cool festival. Times change, shame really. They were some great times, shame it had to end.
That was the end to freedom of choice in this country. The criminal justice act curtailed the freedom of assembly together. This affects more that just travellers; they did not like the unions protesting. They seem to think they own this country and the people in it. The only authority they have over you is the authority you give them. I am an authority of one. I make moral decisions based on my thoughts and beliefs.
@@garywillow6578not true what you say about authority. Only if you are willing to go to prison if you break the laws made by “authority”. It’s all very cool and hippy romantic saying you’re an authority of one etc but the reality is different. You are not free. Nor am I. It’s an illusion.
We've got the Criminal Justice Act to thank for that, so many friends moved to Ireland, Spain, Portugal but there was still a traveller scene n sites all over the country, still is today. People who could afford it brought land but struggled to get planning permission to live on it....? The government f**ked us over from all angles. A.C.A.B !
@@willpolr we weren't free we were at war and not by choice with society, the government, the authorities, the news channels and public opinion the police would create most of the problems then bulls**t news stories twisted the facts lied by omission n would make us out to look like the instigators .....
did u see the bit ware the woman was harping on about feeling unsafe and wuldnt let her children blah blah well??
in the past years anyone ever hear about travelers ever abuse??
like all those Pakistani lot Rotherham?? or BBC lot DLT or that Cigar muncher FOR example??
Travelers new age lot for example were ALWAYS wrongfully treated by society and regularly smashed up by the Authorities too for good measure..
but I still miss those people back then... luv luv x
Come over ere, dont they eh? Coming over ere.
After beanfield , I’d have to say we aggged the police , I never got touched by a copper and in fact at two different sites , one used to bring us spuds , one used to come up wth other food .
It has to work both ways , yep there are bad people but there were some misogynistic twats on site and I’m sure there were bad cpppers , but they did put up wth a tonne of mouth from us -just saying .we had a documentary lad from uni , some dickhead from site stole his camera from the car he was sleeping in , he had all the footage after the farm when they split us up 6 at a time .
Well I'm a child of the movement from the 70s & 80s it was trauma all around from police and festival goers. As for the movement we all know sid was a nonce
15.38 a vicar protesting about travellers. Shameful and not very christian
Hardly the worst thing a vicar has ever done!
I named my first born after a traveler kid I met. I was a unruly child and the only place I felt safe was on site with real people. I now live in a house , I hate it....one day I will live my dream which is simply this.
brilliant days much better times than now
Ahh Scud!!! So lovely to see his face!!!! :) A beautiful soul . I hope things have worked out well for him.. not seen him in years.
If I had land he could live on it forever.
Nah the bastards would be down on you pretty quickly. Owning land isn’t even vaguely enough in this country!
Absolutely Brilliant Documentary just get another chance to watch it again is honourable, with such appalling discrimination against all travelling families trying to live on the road alternatively which is the beauty of nature with freedom of choice. Where's There's Discrimination There's Jealously Of Hate 🌄🌈🌅💖🌠
What one sided drivel
But they dont live alternatively, they claim benefits, just like millions of other loosers. I would have a little more respect if i was not contributing for them to enjoy "freedom". Why do they not work for ten years, earn enough to buy land, set up their "alternative" society, and have the pride to support their families, without relying on the state ?
@@AmysTrilogyyea they DID live alternatively you absolute prick. So because they claim dole that means they aren’t leading an alternative lifestyle? Are you really that thick? Do you get ya tory knickers in such a twist when people claim child support costs at YOUR expense ya numpty? Get a life. And a hug.
@@AmysTrilogyi think the fact they live off extorted tax money is the only legitimate criticism of them really. If you think about it, a large number of them are from middle/upper middle class families and their parents have probably paid more than enough into the system to cover the meagre benefits they used to get- not that I agree on either count
I love the travellers mum talking in this video... I live in a vehicle and she completely understands that people are just people and have the right too live how we choose too...
yea when someone else is paying for it
@@paulmaryon9088 pointy point made loon
You’re totally knickertwisted by the money we ‘sponged’
So back to brick -£££££££££££££6
Housing benefit-council tax benefit - costing more as we are using all the facilities - actually do the maths fool - many people didn’t sign on - but if they did it was still less than keeping us bricked up would of cost . A lot if the time we were invited onto land but the neighbours couldn’t cope .
Make it make sense please- you’re spouting arse ⭐️✨
@@jagomae. is it ok for a group of people to have a permanent holiday which is funded by people who work? Is that morally ok?
@@neelo79it was funded far more by parents of the travellers trust me 😂 plenty of trustafarians back then. I had plenty of traveller mates and went to free parties for 10 years. So many people scrounge off the state far worse than travellers ever did! Jeez I see a lot of em in my job. A lot of the hatred directed at travellers and anyone else free spirited is bloody jealousy / envy at actually having some balls.
My lovely Ush , John Derek , and Becky , the language the way the news used was so obhorrent , still glad we kept on and on ✨🥰
Wish my parents were as cool as him , didn’t help , they got offered acid at the gate first time they pulled onto site to visit me 🤣🤣🤣
Wish !! 😉
Omg that woman really sied she wouldn't let her kids go to the shop by them shelfs I'm a x travler of the 90s these people are mad
Crazy, i loved the travellers and Glastonbury was never the same without them. To think that woman said that, what's she saying now in 2021 about the government attack on kids, friends and family, the true vermin has risen it's head.
"New age vermin"? This is a disgusting way to talk, and I am a Tory too.
RICHARD LAVERSUCH he's saying I'm sure what at the time many of the people that voted for him wanted him to stand up and say .
The word Tory means lawless and theif. Maybe you should check it out.
But the peadofiles in government were not vermin.....ok ,accusing and attack to hide their own sins. Nothing has changed.
Brilliant, I remember that lay-by well, a Matador got stuck in the ditch, another Matador tried to pull it out but got stuck so along came a Scammel Explorer and pulled both of them out, I was riding around on a mates Scewbald horse called Legs.
Time-machine job #1907: Run past that control room in Shepton Mallet, lobbing a stink bomb thru the window XD
16 minutes in and seeing the vicar out supporting hate shows the hypocrisy when his bible is full of messages like Hebrews 13:2 Do not neglect to show love to strangers, for by this some have entertained angels without knowing it.
Also look up Mutoid waste system, they incorporated installations at Glastonbury such as car stone henge the life of the festival was where these people were. Incidentally the Mutoids did some of the installations at the London Olympics. They were just as important if not more so than the prevailing pop culture of the day
Great to see some old faces, but the unfounded hatred and anti traveller attitude never changes.
Last time I went to see my folks, now both in their 80s.. my mum whose now very frail told me with a tear in her eye that she was constantly scared for my safety. All they saw was negative news reports.
I feel pretty bad about that, but at the time in my 20s I just lived the life I'd fallen into and it was great fun, stressful as fk at times but hey..
Just sad my folks spent 5 or 6 year's worrying.. apparently as soon as I moved onto the canal they stopped worrying so much.
28:00 LOL at the end there - ironically those people from Middlezoy are making themselves de facto travellers by living outside on that picket line 24/7.
norepetitivebeats when your English is poor , as I it makes it so hard sometimes in some context to follow when silliness is used with the words-Middlezoys ????
Thats what i thought, Ironic.
I'm nearly 50 now and this was half my life ago.. Time has sure gone fast And I along with it and not always in the direction I'd have liked.
yep. bar of soap on its way?
Them were the days
for sure
indeed...
Middle class kids who most have turned in to the people they pretended they stood against. It's now known as a gap year.
that's about it
Back in the day if the people of Middlezoy were New age Traveller's, there'd have been 500 riot police, riot van's, helicopter's and god knows what at their protest. They were frightened of NA traveller's and not "gypsies" apparently. The NA travellers I knew left a site clean and tidy, unlike the "gypsies" I've met who shit everywhere and left sites in a total fucking mess, not to mention nicking everything for miles or ripping folk off tarmacking their drives with 1/4" of tarmac and charging around a grand for 20 mins "work" and threatening violence if anyone baulked at the price.
There were bad NA traveller's as well of coarse, and I've met great "gypsies"/Irish travellers, but the reaction of the government at the time was way over the top with propaganda being provided by the papers. Nowt's changed, the hater's have immigrant's in their sight's now and still hate dole scroungers. As if having a job or owning property excuses bad manner's and prejudice.
Diabolical Artificer one second I'm with you and the next we are so far apart
I quit in 94 and returned to my brick house.. U can read my comments on other videos on here.. When I watch these im flooded with memories and just want to write about the experiences, the truths and the lies.. And like I always keep saying Glastonbury hadnt been a bloody travelers festival since the late 70s.. Free festivals u can look up that are real travellers festies were the likes of torpedo town... Village idiots... Cisbury ring.. Rutland free.. Green man.. Silver moon..white goddess.. Twisted tree.. On and on.. Search for those and im sure ull be steered to more of the same.. Good times that will never be repeated. Sadly.
Thank you for the post
There was a program on tv one time it followed one small group , and at one point as they drove down the stone Avenue to Avebury.
I'd so like to see that one again .
no probs, like to share. i recorded a lot of stuff from back then, take a look at webm8.com and the tv section. it might be in ther.
And there's plenty of fighting goes on without any traveller involvement. U got Alcohol to thank for that
Shame there wasn't internet then we could have come in support of travellers, People scared of others coming to there space...Any one know Willy X ?
I hope he had a liscense for that Tv
Haha Fuck the British Brainwasher Corp
Ha ha ha!
was the first year I had my circus in the greenfields at Pilton, set it up as a way to stay on the road and it worked, 25 years, no problems from the police or any authority, in fact we were welcomed.
Amazing what a slight change can make, we were all still the same people.
Nice nice nice.... Shame tho that we couldn't all have had a circus lol and weren't talented as such.. Some like myself ended up back here in society.. (tho still doing same but in one place.. Ssssssh)
@@solcutta3661 I couldn't cut it in a house, well we as a family couldn't after living on the road so long so now live on boats instead
@@KarrierBag hello there bud.. Yes I read ur post somewhere else I thjnk, I read someone said about boats.. U know for such a long time I always dreamed of living on a barge but the cost dissuaded me, even tho I've never actually gone and looked, I know it's a few thousand and I've never had much more than a grand in my hand ever(my own money lol) and also I wasnt sure of how u actually go about it.. Im almost 50 so my days of adventure and probably done now. There's many reasons I veered back into the house, if u come across my comments on other old travellers videos ull see. Its a shame because although I still follow a head lifestyle I don't in other regards.. At 13/ 14 ish I started listening to electro Street sounds (and breakdance etc) then housenation got me into house, then acid House, then rave and then I met some travellers who ingraciated me into the scene in 91..that first festival was a culture shock. Lol. I came back home via pitching my caravan at my Romany uncles site and then year or so later a tent in another uncles back garden then into the house and shortly after was given a house with gf of time with our child. Here I stayed.. And those 25 years u been busy ive been here and spent my 25 procrastinating.. I had a dog given me by a traveller lad called Lee (who was quite baldish on top of head but had a huge thick single dread at back of head.. Lol, very recognisable) at time I hadn't long been into the life and he said look I don't want u to have her and then go back to house I want these dogs living life on the road.. Of course years later her and her daughter both died of old age here in a house.. (not sure he ever knew, never see him since that time) anyway rambling on to u..lol...but yes a boat I'd like that but maybe I'm like prisoners who been in such a long time, u know like institutionalised, maybe I've been whatever the version is living in a house... Tho must say the huge contradictory aspect of travellers life and the whole concept of living a better way than the bee hive/ant nest mentality of this society I only saw replicated in almost the same way in the traveller community of mini capitalist socialist free reign anarchaistic individuals.. Lol.. Who always called society and bemoaned it verhimetly yet went to get the dole money and visited Dr's and hospitals, oh and still bought stuff from shops.. So I found all that quite head numbing (although how do u escape society without self sufficiency in everything?) so listening to that round the camp fire night after night also had a modicum of sway in my coming back to house life... There I go again... Rambling.. Anyway ill leave ur ears alone at this point... Any chance u can give me a quick overview of how u live on the water ur selves??? And how its replicable without putting on any kind of entertainment for money (as I'm not skilled in that way.. Lol) nice to hear from u. Very interesting concept.
I believe in freedom and have lived it but don’t sponge off the system if your not contributing and have decided not to participate in that system and don’t vandalise or leave mess simple,
58 beans for glasto, blimey theye were the days!
lol yep, what is it up to now? £400?
@@webm8 Christ, more than that I think.. Wouldn't surprise me.
@@Kernowyon such a shame. smaller ones are better now
Omg not the travlers people should be alowed to live thir own way of life
Sad sad sad... we on boats now cos "is respectable and romantic" still crust as...
Crickey the way Scud climbed that bus at 11:18 was well impressive 😲
I was there, never ever paid to get in though. It was like Stonehenge, take a week end break to Glastonbury then back to SH. last time we went, we did have to wait for people to give us their wrist bands as it was quite massive &security every where
See us next year or somefin
You notice how not one of the New Age Travellers in this expresses even a flicker of concern for their own children. The conditions are clearly filthy, dangerous and as many of them admit destitute yet they are oblivious as to how deeply damaging it is for young kids and babies to be subjected to that lifestyle choice.
I hope they all got done for child neglect, but I doubt any of them did.
Lovely Irene!
Ironic though that the weird villagers are camping out round a fire singing songs at the end. I mean thats all romany and travellers wanna do. LOL
VETERAN ROYAL SCOTS OLDEST REGIMENT IN BRITISH ARMY .....PRETTY MUCH LIKE BEING OUT ON EXERCISE.OR MANOUVERS.....HA HA
Glastonbury started off as a free festival by the travellers not many people know that but i will say festival in the world 🌎 been a few times if ever get the chance go brilliant 👏 👌 👍 I grew up with these people and it was brilliant really 👏 😀
At least we had the chance to be there that was the beginning of the end for this country what a shit state now
Traveller entertainment was free, now look at the festivals, hundreds of pounds if ur lucky enough to get a ticket. The culture is proscribed where as the hippies bought there own entertainment that had nothing to do with consumerism. Glastonbury is for the middle classes these days. They don't know what they are missing
would I be right in guessing this is early 90s?
1993
1993, my first year at Glastonbury, what an eye opener that was! That was first of three in a row but even then it was starting to change for the worse.
yes it changed pretty quickly
Posh kids roughing it
lots were, but FAR from all///
Mixed , some were from well to do families and may or may not have had that to fall back in , others had come out of the cities with a dole card and very little else .
If the water is of the toilet wont work
£58 a ticket wow its not that now ive lost count now to how much they cost???
yep crazy increase in price, over £200 now
2020 £265.00 +£5.00 booking fee.
Last ticket i brought was £78 after that i jumped the fence or got a stamp. I went from the 22nd to the 28th one but could see it changing for the worst each year so stopped going.
Happy daze people...guy talking about their being fights well the only people talking about fights...is you boss
i was at glastonbury the year before when it all kicked off on the traveller fields
The year Semtex Paul got battered by security really badly ?- that was nasty
But might have been earlier I think lining up time wth what dribbled version of time in my head 🌺✨
I live in a village and I would love to have travellers here.
yea in your garden?
Anyone on here remember the Willowmead Travellers site in Weston-super-Mare around 1992
Clever resourceful folk who the masses will look to when the oil runs out
Oil running out!! You are not buying that shit. All oil based products can be made from plant based ethanol fact1 internal combustion engines make more power on ethanol fact2if you grow the right plants they consume more co2 than they release in processing and burning. It's a fucking con mate the whole electric car bollocks electricity from nuclear power stations and a lithium battery recycling fucking nightmare in 20 years time. As for this clip 90% of these new age travelers (the middle class kids) soon grew out of the screen they finished their fancy middle class education's on mummy's and daddy's healthy trust fund and went on to be the wankers they pretended to despise. The other 10% (the working class kids) had no escape route so it was smack or jail often both and that's why it died a death. I myself was found guilty of possession with intent (ecstasy) in 1988 I served 2 years of a 3 year sentence. On my release I found all the people with posh accents had gone the rest where unfit smacked up parents, I moved straight on fitted in and became another tax payer.
You are having a laugh?!
The only way anyone would look to them is to say why did you use it all up 'travelling' around in a huge gas guzzler
These folk will be the last the masses look to when the oil runs out.
These folk contribute zilch to the community now, what are they going to contribute to the masses when the shit hits the fan?
@@sidewaysaction9983 are you sure about all this?
If they didnt look like overused toilet brushes they would have had a lot of support. The police and government would not have been allowed to "give the travellers less rights" . As if rights are theirs to give or with-hold.
2021 we should all become travellers...most will be bankrupted
spends 20 minutes cleaning a cup with filthy water and filthy hands laughable
Don't you just shudder at the water in the washing up bowl !!!!
Do you want a cup of tea. No thanks lol
I had to laff about that .looked like he was washing a cup for his dad and it was one of those that hadn't been washed for yonks the old tannin
that life is easer then working 50hrs a week? paying bills etc etc
I bet they could not live like that now, with the cost of diesel
The mother is so eloquent, and a beautiful, kind, right thinking human being. Bless her!
Only because her son is a traveler. If not then her Conservative views would have her on the picket line like the rest.
Bleedin' state of them. New Age Tramps more like.
It can't possibly be the travellers fault if they aren't has smartly dressed as other people as the travellers don't have as much money as other people have to be able to spend on furniture or clothes as well!
So they were roaming around the country collecting welfare (at the expense of taxpayers) & upset they couldn't get into a festival for free, even though everyone else had to buy tickets. And they can't understand why people have a problem with them. Did I miss something?
yes
To Dwayners13,
I think you are missing something. But at the same time 1993 you have a view of part of the then social problem. It was a bit of a turning point for those New Age (NA) Travellers as they were having to deal with the social change of attitudes towards them. IE they were having to learn they were not welcome. That was part of the social change. In former decades they would have had a site to go to. They would have been welcomed. I agree their free entry expectation at the ticket event seems on the surface to be an over site on their behalf. But their belief they may be welcomed there were not with out the fact that in previous years they did seem welcomed. But attitudes changed and decisions were made by Glastonbury Pilton Festival organisers to ban their entry as well as to make known to them their were unwelcome and there were no free tickets. Up to 1985 and including 1985 (Tickets were only £16.00s) there would have been room for them or an adjacent feild they were allowed. But due to some security issues (Mass on site security confrontation, 3 landrovers burnt, criminal damage, illegal drug dealing) in 1985 the attitude changed.
In no way do I think they should have free tickets. But in understading of the social conditions of the times there was an other factor that likly contributed to the change of organisers attitudes.
1984 was the last legal free Stone Henge festival (Attendance about 58,000). In 1985 the Stone Henge Festival was illegalised with thousands of hippies, NA traverlers and festival goers not knowing it was banned that year or that the British Parliment had voted against allowing it again. Thousands travelled hoping for a festival only to find 600 riot police there to stop them. A battle (Battle of the Bean Feild) resulted. The festival was prevented. But travellers then needing a site moved on to Glastonbury with their Beanfeild battle baggage (Emotion, psychological traumatic baggage (their) problem, you may say). The closure of the anticipated Free site formerly attended by 58,000 festival goers which had it, occurred would have occurred the same weekend as the Glastonbury Festival. So with tens of thousands of free Festival goers with out their usual Free Site, bands and festival to go to. Glastonbury became a logical next best option. Glastonbury was already that year finding it's site too small and had increased it's size by 100 acres. A 100 acres with out anticipating the extra from the then prevented 58,000 attendee Stonehenge Free Festival. Had the Free festival been allowed then the traverlers would not have been at Glastonbury 1985. Therefore the Security issue would not have occurred. Tensions would not have arisen. Travellers would not have had their Bean Feild problems along with their problems occuring due to their usual incomes for June 1985 not been earnt as their anticipated Festival (where some earnt their income) was prevented. But the problem did occur and resulted in the Glastonbury Festival organisers deciding to prevent the NA Traveler, Gypsys, Peace Convoy in further years.
Prior to the 1985 decision, a few penniless traveller hippies would have been no problem and they would just be absorbed or just be part of the festival. The festival licence could cope with out stress and a good time was the general result (The few poor absorbed or accomodated). But 58,000 or the increasing numbers could not just be absorbed. The licence had not the capacity to grow so vast, so quickly. The demands were stresses that would demand responses and actions. Actions to prevent licence capacity breaches and therefore the closure or prevention of further licence permits for future years. So the resulting Glastonbury Festival security situation of 1985 led to the decision to prevent furture entry by the NA Gypsy Traveler's Peace Convoy. They had lost their two main sites in 2 years, Or in that year 1985 if the decision to prevent their furture entries occurred that year.
So in later years it was a learning experience for them. There had been a change. Yes there had been free entry in former years as well as yes it seems a bit outrageous for those or hundreds of NA Gypsys traverlers to turn up with expectations of a free ticket. But the that 1985 and former festivals were separated by the decision there would be no free entry for them. No free feild.
Everyone else didn't have to buy a ticket, as in many former years there were plenty of worker tickets or wanted labourers who would work just for entry. But evolutionary events would change Glastonbury Festival in to a political commercial event. So going back to the evolutionary origins. Of the early 70s and sixties. The event was a hippy style festival. A small convoy of travelling experienced hippies with bands, eletric or acoustic musical instruments, their own music, buses, generators, singers, groupies, stages and assortment of people on the road was often a welcom sight to prospective festival organisers as the convoy of festival people and equipment made the festival. In affect it was a ready made festival nucleus. Ready to set-up, play, preform and supply food, jewlery, camping, washing, and other festival paraphernalia. Then after usually they provided the litter pickers, deconstruction workers and eventually the buses and coaches to carry the remaining stragglers away. Many did not receive income support. As their incomes were from the festival(s). For many the 70s and first half of the eighties were busy lucative years. But things had been a changing. No longer was there a small festival convoy. The so called New Age Gypsys Traveller Peace Convoy had emerged. A different breed. More politically active. More anarchical, part terriorist, part punk, more subversive and less caring, less legal and nothing really to do with the original hippy style peace activists of the former sixties peace movement. They may have called them self peace Convoy. But peace or the hippy peace ideologies were something they were not. In the early years a small convoy of sucessful festival workers could easily carry a hundred or two penniless workers just looking for a free ride to the next festival worksite. But by 1984 after the Peace Convoy had emerged the festival Convoy was some two hundred vehicles. Maybe 50 buses 40 coaches, stalls, trucks, caravans and cars.
The convoy had morphed. Changed. The New Age Convoy were no longer looking for a festival. They just needed a site. They were large enough to be the festival it self. But that in part then became the problem. IE. There was going to be no site available. Decisions were made by the Government to prevent access. Maybe also to break it up. To prevent it growing or prevent it arriving at a suitable festival site. Authorities took on a new attitude than if they are travellers then they ought to be travelling. The Authorities then made over night road side stops offenses. The convoy was being prevented from reaching a stopping destination. Being prevented from reaching work or a site where they could work. That Peace Convoy group could no longer earn enough to support themselves or their equipment or any one else. They were being targeted. Unlike the early small festival folk who worked to maintain themselves, their vehicles as well as feed and provide for a number of less successfull travelling workers. Times had changed.
The Glastonbury Festival Organizers changed from supporters of the early hippy counter culture peace movement to commercialisation. But that change had to permeate the consciousness of those who evolved from the movement they used to support. So there had to be a time for that change (Non welcome change) to be understood by some of the less affluent hopefull attendies.
My view is. The prevention to sites, the breaking up resulted in their loss of access to food, either paid, communal or free. Access to work, or the supportive work of others. IE. The prevention of their work drove many to the DHSS when previously they may have had their needs met by their own work or the work of the festival workers. Every Free Festival always had generally it's own free food kitchen and distribution. Usually provided for by stall holder contributions and free food community workers.
So. In the early years they were not roaming the country side collecting DHSS welfare. The festivals had their own welfare. But from the 2nd half of the nineteen-eighties (1985-1990) those Festival welfare services were along with the Convoy being prevented from attending free festivals as the free festival sites were being prevented from generally being granted. So yes many did end-up on welfare payments.
well done, that man.
Michael Greenwood I got 3/5 of reading what you wrote but it's not easy going and gave up
@@MikeGreenwood51 what an excellent comment, fair play to you, all the best to all
This is pure discrimination against anyone who lives in a vehicle and looks like an overused toilet-brush
Nobbbbbbbbbbbbbby!!!
o0r maybe like 98?
Are used to love travelling as a kid that’s how I was brought up it was fucked up in 85 just became too much like hard work
I guess your not a fan of hard work :)
some have been working hard for 50 years to support your lifestyle lazy fuck
@@paulmaryon9088 Chill out Paul , I had some great times at "Free Festivals" set up by travellers, I'm thankful for the fun and colour and wisdom I found. Some nasty fucks and scenes I saw, but mostly were nice well meaning people.
@@AnGoosen Yea dude I'm sure me too , but sadly too many freeloaders, I spent some time on the road, and worked my way, stay safe friend ,
@@paulmaryon9088 You to.
How do travellers earn a living?
How do or how did? There is a fundamental difference with how they used to prior to the forceful prevention of the Free Festivals 1985. Prior to 1985 there were a thousand ways to earn a living or just to survive the festival. Much of course depends on the traveller's skills or his equipment. But most every festival goer has need from dawn till dusk. So a traveller with a van or 7.5 ton truck can easily (weather permitting) roll to the shops to stock up or a thousand or hundred muchibles or liquid fluid. Hand crafted Jewellery was always popular. A site with a thousand vehicles is of course going to be a boom town for a mecanic with a st of spanners and grease gun. Making records earnt some handsomely. Delivering wood or fuel earns money. Delivering any usable commodity earns. Working vehicles are always useful. Can you imagine how popular a guy with a steam engine and electric dynamo would have been? You could just have a couple of swings or a bouncy castle. Do not confuse these being pushed around in the video with those earning a living at a festival. As they in the video are clearly not earning a living. But even a milk man and milk float could sell out a whole truck to the dawn campers before he reloads for his regular delivery route. Pre 1985, glaziers could cut glass. Painters could paint. Electricians could do electrical work, stage builders build stages. Cinema builders built cinemas etc etc. Then there were also the artists & preformers.
they don't they just sponge off you , so keep working they need your tax money
I How know how popular a man with a 1000 trips and 2 kilos of nep was , very 🙂 .
What constitutes a convoy?
A convoy is a group of vehicles, typically motor vehicles or ships, traveling together for mutual support and protection.
Legally it's 12 but you can be stopped and turned back if it's believed you are intending to join up with a convoy .
13:08 note the trippy shorts, signalling that this geezer is a Freemasonically planted actor, & not a genuine "new age traveller" ....
NFA !!!!