Is UK On The Verge Of A Second Traveller Revolution? Asking some experts from the 1970s & 80s
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Do benefit cuts mean UK is on verge of second traveller 'revolution'? With two experts from the 1970s/80s
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Summary:
Author of The Battle of the Beanfield, which describes the police attack on hundreds of travellers in convoy toward Stonehenge festival, Andy Worthington and traveller Sean join us to discuss the social and political reasons why the UK's 1970s and 1980s 'New Age' travellers appeared when they did.
Sean trained as an HGV mechanic so was helping maintain many vehicles, he describes life on the road, the practicalities of moving night after night and relations with neighbours and the police. Sean was at important festivals such as 'Nostell Priory'. Ultimately the traveller convoy was part of a wider 'movement' against the changes being brought in by the Thatcher government, forced repeated evictions by landowners and, since they had been forced out of permanent 'bricks and mortar' homes to live out of vehicles, was about land rights and property.
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On June 1st 1985, a convoy of new travellers, peace protestors, green activists and festival-goers set off from Savernake Forest in Wiltshire to establish the 12th annual free festival at Stonehenge. There were around 450 people in total, and they included a number of women and children.
They never reached their destination.
Eight miles from the Stones they were ambushed, assaulted and arrested with unprecedented brutality by a quasi-military police force of over 1,300 officers drawn from six counties and the MoD.
That event has gone down in history as ‘The Battle of the Beanfield’. This book is the combined effort of a large number of people who feel passionately that only through reaching an understanding of what actually occurred before, during and after ‘The Battle of the Beanfield’ can a proper ‘closure’ take place for those involved and the many people who have been in some way touched by it.
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I met my wife on the biggest traveller site in Europe at that time, Crowborough Barracks, back in 1995, we now have two grown up kids, 24 and 22 and we are still happily together. We could go back to that way of life in a heartbeat.
Is that crowborough in Kent?
@@martinmcfred6758 Yes bud, about 5 miles south of Tonbridge Wells, it was an old Army Barracks.
Lived on north farm ind estate in tonbridge 92, the same month slayer played donington , remember it on the radio. 2000ds sang about crowborough. Either it was a site for a long time or it kept getting re taken. I wasnt aware of it when down there but 92 was a trying year and the incinerator fire at otterbourne, some travellers weren't welcome on some sites by then for fear of getting them evicted. Did some miles up and down the country that year and the year before..
Scotland is basically run by woke nazis fuck doing there
@@martinmcfred6758 It was first taken in 93 and was a sort of transit site for a lot of people but many permanent park ups too, it was alive for about 4 years before eviction.
After losing two houses due to two divorces, I was forced into an alternative lifestyle. I bought a caravan eight years ago which I live in at weekends.
Monday to Friday I’m a long distance lorry driver so I live in the lorry all week.
It’s a lifestyle I now prefer and no law in the land will get me back in house.
Relationship breakdown has to be the biggest driver of this- once your project breaks up, then you look to your options & mine was a van- I had nowhere else to go. She said she'd leave, but then changed tune when she couldn't find anything and I'd to go.. into the van. Stayed 50 yards from the house on day one and am still close (but move every 2-3 days) a year later.
I'm a Scottish Traveller , been living in Trucks, Buses & Caravans since 2001 in U.K., France, Spain , Portugal & NL. Keep on Trucking! FREE PARTY - FREE PEOPLE - FREE FUTURE!! 👍🚌❤️🐕
ROck on lad...all the best from a 75 raver..rock n roll will never die !! X
@@Mary-xt1ph All the Best ! ❤️ Hope you are Happy & Healthy... Hardcore Never Dies!! X
Great interview I was a young Irish lad squatting in London I went to my first festival in 1985!! And witnessed the smashing and burning out of people's homes a lot of "cops" were Salisbury army dressed in old police uniforms, I lived on the road since 85 in different vehicles, when the criminal justice bill came out a lot of folk left for Spain or gave up and settled down, I'm long since back in Ireland and bought a rough bit of land and I live in a trailer with solar power, I learned how to mend and make do 😁
good man
Yes I heard that they drafted in squaddies in 1985. I wasn't there but someone who was tld me.
@@davidwilson403 Dave, I can vouch that happened, I’m from Wiltshire a very local to Stonehenge, my cousin was a paramedic on standby and attended at the time the Battle of The Bean field, they drafted police in from wherever they could find them and the army were definitely drafted in, in Police uniform, he said at the time, his crew couldn’t believe what they witnessed, the brutality was shocking
Sorry to burst your myth but I was there and can vouch there were no military personnel involved. But like me there were many MoD police officers who are civil . Google MoD Police.
I was there not in the bean field but by the stones
Managed to get back to my vehicle
Police road blocks everywhere
Helicopters nightmare
Ways to be free lol
I had new age traveller mates when I was a teenager and all I will say is; they didn't litter the place. They were noisy on Friday and Sat night, but nice parties with a real community feel like a cross between a table party in a housing estate and a rave. They never ran too late though as it was only till the generator ran out of fuel! Some of those folk taught me some of the best life advice, and had the most clear and pertinent views of the world, opened my mind to the most amazing art, literature, music and spirituality, the left hand path values and that has coloured and guided my life. I'm so proud now to have been blessed with knowing and having met and learned their philosophies and to discuss understand their world view. I wouldn't necessarily agree with everything but they taught be the most important lessons that have gotten me through the toughest times in my life. Wonderful times and difficult and distressing realisation that you're living in a totalitarian regime ending with the Beanfield and the CJA. One day though when fossil fuels run out we all may have to adopt more epicurean low energy usage lifestyles. Not necessarily nomadic but to be be much more mindful of conservation, community minded and less wasteful of our resources. Then the travellers will be heralded as having had the correct set of values, which if we'd have acknowledged as a society back then, we'd be far further forward with the ethical and moral development of our society as a whole and be realising the benefits in so many things.
Well said
Great to hear of this. Following the BeanField I was one of the 'hard core' as the police put it, totally unarmed, badly beaten , broken bones while being arrested but later found not guilty.
Back then, Thatcher and her cronies demonised us with labels and banished into a 'hidden history' as we fought against an 'ever tightening vice of forced normality',
Personally, I don't do drugs, I love people and do my best to help others with music and art. T,his is slightly different to what many would 'demonise' us into, however was so often the case with 'un-desireables'.
I wish any 'New Age Lifestyle' every success, and believe that many who died in so many wars fought for real freedom, not a 'free to tow the line' later to become little better than the oppressed they where fighting against.
The 'Old Peace Convoy' finally became a drugged up ugliness, with violence and scenes that the media never saw, (Orpington and Bristol) so I would ask that, people sit down, and work out a 'friendly, peaceful movement of kindness to all, also include dissibilitys, Lgbt,s and artists. Have a wonderful public show and make people smile and feel safe. Also, Loose the drugs and 'anti-everything' attitude, that really does not help.
We need this to happen, before we all go mad.
Safe hugs to all. Martin
I experienced community bus living for a while, working with a festival crew all summer long. They were the best times, I felt like I had a family. As a single mother the other options were be alone and broke in a house, work and put my daughter in childcare (others bring up my baby? no thanks!) It was the best! My daughter experienced diverse conversations around fires, the whole age range of people, community and so much more. This lifestyle threatens their control of the people, they'd prefer us alone, we're weaker that way. Oh I'd best not start ranting! Thank you, really enjoyed this conversation, we should never forget what happened.
I think thatchers slum Britain is back. It's all swept under the rug. More homeless than ever before. Great video. Thanks for sharing. :)
The whole country as been a slum since 1979 and nothing changes, except restrictive half scratched together laws to halt the freedom of movement
@@Jazzfinga Yet right. Still. I love it ;-)
Thatchers legacy is that history is repeating itself regarding the topic of travelers!
i lived as a traveller for a few years i miss it a lot but drugs and theifs escaping the police would join us, spoiling what we had, we would alway share look after each other it was a big extended family to start with, so much better than the lonely box i live in, now, but still i help a lot of the people around me communitys are vital for our welbeing and mental health, its NEVER to late to make a NEW START,never STOP Loving my brothers and sisters,
one life,one love, one more chance to shine..xxx
Blessings to you mate
This is way beyond the rumbling on of Thatcher's Britain, we're in the endgame.
As mad as it sounds I'm single HGV Driver, children have grown up and I'm fed up with paying over half my wages on just the rent lol thinking about buying an old coach and doing in it out and living in it and having money in my bank lol.
do it mate.
we downsized to a wooden park home when 2 of the kids went last year. we bought it outright and freed ourselves from debt. when the last child goes we might even go further and go on the road...it's happening a lot in the US we struggle with our weather in the UK but it's definitely doable and sensible in this toxic world.
do it mate best desicion i ever made!
Snap mate. apart from the HGV.
exactly they have trapped, if everyone became a traveller and left their homes how would the councils run, no council tax, thats why they make peoples lives hell , the system is very sick
Im young and have wanted to live on the road for years. I hope it comes back around so i can be a part of something as amazing as that
Not so bad in the summer. Grim in the winter. Frightening at times. Wonderful at others.
Just do it!
Tool around and see who you bump into...
@@patkelly3966 did you go to windsor or the 2nd torpedo fest
Living in a vehicle made a lot of sense during the 1980s, cheap to buy and no bills because we used free timber to heat our homes and cook our food.
A matter of property , if the beanfield had been occupied that year it could have empowered rhe travellers with property rights under English law, the police were directed to prevent that with any neceassary force. What transpired was the most vile travesty in Thatcher's continued war on the populace.
This is great to hear some new recordings about this subject.
You won't hear it on the suicidal sabotaged BBC yet I'm afraid - a hostile airwaves environment for the time being -
I was in my early 20's in the early 80's and was lucky to be at free festivals. Beats the hell out of the isolation of how I live now. It was interesting times, thatcher changing laws to shut it down, yes, bring back the travellers! rattle their tory fears again. 😁
Indeed! Stonehenge was a proper free festival. One of the greatest experiences of my life. We live now in a totalitarian police state. It's horrific. TBH can't wait until it's all over. Lots of love to you!
I'm gonna remember that
I traveled with a band called Phat Bollard, it gave me a taste of the life of being on the road with mates. I felt alive. I have a old van Im gonna fix up soon, I can't wait to paint it, I hope for the New Wave Traveler; so I can travel with mates. :) Thanks a lot for the nice show.
Ive seen those. Funny as fuck 🤣
Phat Bollard are awesome!! I've played the Millionaires video to dozens of people, many don't get the full meanings as im not in the uk any more but the message is clear and strong. Nice one!!!
Right about the council estate. I would rather take to the road, than live on a estate.
Wish they had the psychedelic free festivals to go with
Very interesting perspective on the current state of Austerity Britain. Funny how the Tories seem to make Britain a deeply bleak place to live. People's creativity and adaptability never ceases to amaze.
well said the poor have always been raped by he rich and so called normal, and always will be, i lived in bus at this time , never ran with the pack though....this will all happen again...i was working for nothing..life was so grim.i never realised so many where doing the same thing..as for adaptability it was sink or swim...no home i could afford ..no job i could live on the crap wage...it was hard yes but so much better than being a slave ,to he that says you must follow the sheep.in order that they can live on what little i have..to bye castles in the sky
What else to expect from deeply bleak people?
I lived in a motor home for a year, but also lived on a narrow boat for 3 years. The boat was good, but you can only take it down the canal. The van was good also, but make sure you've got a Chinese diesel heater, or a multi fuel stove fitted ⛽👍
We are definitely overdue for a resurgence in people living in vehicles again, it's already happening with the number of stealth live in vans you,d never knew were live ins, as for stuff being legal that's debatable, you tended to find legal bumpers so to speak, half the legal ones up front, half at the back and everyone else inbetween, if you did bump in to one another in convoy you sorted it out between yourselves, as for guns and drugs in 25+ years living on site in trucks and buses etc I never saw any guns, and no more drugs than you,d find in any small town, it's fine to be a homeless drunk in a doorway, the do roofers throw you a quid and a pair of socks at Xmas and they feel great how Christian they've been, but house yourself and suddenly youre no1 public enemy.
I was there as a 3 year old..
Back few days ago for sunrise
Peace and joy all
move to Scotland no issues there, camp where you want, I absolutely love the Scottish and there love for freedom of camping where you want.
`good point, my mates daughter is in Scotland and after talking to her it sounds very differert to England.
parked up in scotland few times was evn born there however was once evicted 5 times in one day n ended up back at inverinate layby where we set of from erly in the morning
Love traveling in my live-in Merc 709 wagon in Scotland. So beautiful. Awesome place to live on the road
i think you would find that you would get the same shit if not more in Scotland as england,the right to roam seems to have lots of different meanings to councils for some reason,even going wild camping and parking a car near your tent will cause concern,and some campsites around loch lomond charge £30 a night,this is why i go bike camping these days and keep as stealth as possible
@@paddypete1 was blessed bender up at lochmond in 89ish there was my bender n andy n alisins romanbusy we got no hasle at all n all the cafe food left end of day they gave us wich was cool defntly cudnt park or bender up there now tho
I miss living on the road .. the feeling of community was amazing. So different now, feel like a prisoner in my home .. nice to look back though .. love & peace ❤️
I still live in a truck.. 10 yes on the boats..
Peeps like us need to fight the plandemic
Indeed.....
oh yea I forgot.. who sold up all the common land,, whos was it tobuy/sell
Superb Interview.
It is clear that with government again in the hands of those who think they are 'entitled' to govern, we have made a nation where owning property and raising a family is a rite of those with money or connections and excludes many. Rents are extortionate and people are locked into an awful old age of not being able to retire just as in the USA. Having helped people live in boats only to have to give up because they are driven out by people jealous of an alternative lifestyle, I feel we must again look to a traveling lifestyle in the current times. When working in the BBC, local radio started a weekly programme for 'traditional' travelers. This was a massive success but was driven off the air by the BBC due to public opinion. The status quo reacts when upset and If we dont look to alternatives such as traveling, we are leaving a sickening future for our children and grandchildren or cannot get on unless wealthy. I am frightened working with younger people that many are so happy just to accept this situation and give half their incomes for a small room in a shared house, unable to own or rent affordably. In the USA small homes often built on trailers are becoming the norm in some areas where property is beyond peoples means. Thanks for uploading this. I have really enjoyed listening.
Peter .....fascinating. We used to have some connections with new age travellers ...... and as a Garage/ 24 hour vehicle recovery operators , we knew the Police as well !! I recall three of the buses that attended the final Stonehenge Festival being in our yard at Winchester the day before they moved to the Festival. I would love to chat with you sometime. Nigel White Owslebury Garage Winchester.
I was on and off those sites back in the day, i still live out doors but in a boat been here 20 years or more still living on free land still free no bills life's great wouldn't move into a building no way.
I was following the festival circuits with some buddy's from 90-92..great times.. Torpedo town. Rutland free. Twisted tree. Village idiots. White goddess. Green man.. Etc etc. Many can't remember names. beautiful times.. Huge huge huge festivals in 91.. Then slowly they killed them. That ridiculous law came out and fuxked it for us following but not living it.. Always had intentions of doing it properly.. Life conspired to somehow not let me.. Maybe its time now.. Tho now im 48..wish I was 20 again and try again but hey..health not so great now, so not sure it I could even hack it now.. Life......
I had been going to the Stonehenge and free festivals from 81 onwards, my pregnant girlfriend had spent most of spring of 85 on our NA traveller friends coach to give our unborn child a taste of freedom and love, then the festivals started and they travelled about and they were harrassed throughout 85 while on the road. But on the way to Stonehenge they were herded to the bean field and she was dragged from this wondeful home while it was smashed by the police, she was held until the following monday and taken to court and exiled from Wiltshire for 15 years. (which we ignored) We knew something was going to happen in 85 as the rumour was that under common law if a piece of land was used for a certain process for 12 years, then it was allowed under the law, the 12 consectutive use of years were getting close in 85.
Living in vehicles and benders is a much healthier lifestyle, you're connected to nature and the children grow up much quicker than children raised in houses because they're in contact with people of all ages.
Being on acid in a bender good? (set and setting sorted )
Wouldn't mind a go at this life style my self.
Well ..I'm 60 in 2 year .me knees ankles and elbows are knackered , so , I'm buying a van for shelter and sleeping accommodation ...bring it on .
Do it then
Do it!!
I started going to festivals in 81 at Stonehenge, went to a lot of free festivals from then to going on the road full time in late 84. I left the UK after Treworgy. The whole free festival and traveller community was a life changer / shaper for me. I’ve owned and lived in buses here state side and will be getting another school bus so I can be a home owner once again. I feel that as a community we never really recovered from the beanfield and Stoney Cross. A traumatized community
Meet and danced with a convoy in the mid 90s in a bog at the horse and jockey Ireland great memories thanks for video
Listening to Sean has made me realise what an incredibly switched on guy he is and extremely resourceful, I can relate to the low mileage ex military vehicles at auction our Regiment in the early 90's did away with over twenty vehicles with very little mileage and would have made somebody very good workhorses. I was based at Tidworth barracks 1985 when the News broke about what the Police had done to the travelling community in the bean field, and myself and a good number of the lads concluded it was bang out of order what unfolded especially towards the women & children.
It's a beautiful way of life. I think the canals are filling up now with freedom lovers.
The pictures featured on this video were taken by Alan 'Tash' Lodge, a photographer who is well known for his visual documentation of travelers and festivals.
It is a shame that the makers hadn't attributed them to him, but I figured it was time somebody did!
Alan's name & website on the opening video credits..
The resurgence of the true way to live will come sooner rather than later. I was there in the 80s and it is over.
Love this, just poppd on my feed.....27yrs van life....i hate being trapped in houses/flats/ system is so unhealthy for sooooo any people ...had vans & a bus and theres a huge rising of people doing it, but then come the new 'rules' they don't want us to be free !! he sounds like John Lydon !!
I loved living in my bus and being part of the Mutants encampments around Haverfordwest in Wales. Some of my favourite days. Stonehenge definitely has its moments. The first time I went to Stonehenge it was the police that showed me a gap in the hedge to get onto the site. How things changed.
Beautiful spot, i surfed around there for a bit
This is a national embarrassment.. Why can't People live and let live! My your business and we'd ALL be alot happier. What happened at Dale Farm was huge miscarriage of Justice. Bigotry is alive and well in 2020 Earth. SMFH 🤬
Best years of my life, 25+ years on site, free festivals were the business, folk today dont believe it was possible, 😎
This couldn't be more possible than ever before! The interest in our scene, probably now famously named #vanlife, is how people now want to escape and get time back in nature.
Great listen really enjoyed it. Lost contact with Sean, I wonder if I could leave you some details to pass on, is he still living at his old abode in Montpelier?
I am going to live in a bus myself, but I will avoid large groups of other travellers.. That 5% that will leave a mess, shit in the woods and such, territorial dogs everywhere will attract attention immediately from the authorities.. Lay low, live light don't attract to much attention.
Good Luck with fending of vigilante's then, best you find somewhere where no-one goes or cares. There's safety in numbers and we had a sense of community. Hardly anyone I lived on site with shat everywhere and left a mess.
As long as you dig a hole, shitting in the woods is so much better for the environment and a great way to wake up in the morning!
I do hope so,,, I miss my site days,,, the community hasnt been the same since the last 20-30yrs...
Brew crew?
I dtill in a bus...19years now. I never experienced such big problems...but i on my own and i do traveling constantly
..and its a different t8me. Beenfield and peace convoy long gone
Lived this life in Ireland in 90s.
Travelled all over Country to sites in different Counties. Cork,Leitrim,Laoise,and Tipperary. Too name a few.
Loved it.
Who remembers the "white lightnings" ....phew.
I live on a boat on the coast. A very similar life. Over the last few years I have noticed vans parked up in stealth locations more and more often.
Another excellent report! Very interesting, thanks!
i think that's why the GOV changed the drivers licence entitlement,or it could be coincidental
sum of us still have the old green licence with the 7.5 ton entitlement like my self the police now dont now what to say when thy see mine it runs out 2037 all thy say to me is you need to update to the 2 part photo id one . you dont if you do you will loose the 7.5 ton and will not be untitled to drive and will have to take a retest
@@burthabard8316 I have a new 2 part Licence and I am still allowed to drive a 7.5 Ton 😊It comes under Category C1 and doesn't expire until I reach 70 when we have to retake our car test to renew our licence. You have to pass your test before 1997 when the rules changed. It makes no difference if you have the old green Licence or the 2 part one.
The driver's license for a 7.5-tonne vehicle will vary depending on when the driver gets the driver's license. Drivers who passed category B (car) tests before 1997 have a higher right and can drive a 7.5-tonne truck without another test. They will have a C1 permit, which includes vehicles from 3.5 to 7.5-tonnes GVW.
protocol 4 of the convention for protection of human rights says if we are lawfully in a country we can live where we wish...
Your having a fucking laugh mate we don't have any rights anymore, we keep doing as we are told so more freedom crushing laws get passed & nobody does a thing about it because there is a new series on Netflix to watch.
I’m sleeping in my camper listening to this right now. Damn it’s bloody chilly! Full time van life if my only choice to ever getting onto the property ladder. Instead of paying high rent I’m saving it instead for a mortgage maybe.
Invest in vaccines - a 20:1 return.
See the problem...?
Shame there's a need by some on here to say adverse things about new age travellers, and some about romani and Irish travellers. The world is big enough for everyone, and there's bad 'uns in every group. All travellers should stick together in solidarity, we're all on the receiving end of discrimination and prejudice as minorities.
I was kicked out of home the travlers were my new family in the 90s good times
Maybe not so much two years ago but I reckon things are about to change.
The beanfield was horrible all walks of life middle class working class family's woman and children beaten by so called police UNTILE THEY LOST EVERY THING hope home and pride
I've been in my truck for over a decade. Can't turn back now.
best thing i have listened to in a long time
was living in a back off a small van in Aberdeen Scotland for two and a half years
and working to. up the library and swimming pool to would park up jump in the back had no
problems got to know more people at the same thing but never let them know where my pitch was sorry
Pictish crew by chance??..✌😃
sounds brilliant / i am from aberdeen
Interesting interview. The housing crisis is the big issue out there. Discusts me when the youth are struggling to get homes and house builder directors are walking away with 100 million bonuses. Without the balance were all fucked!
I do miss the old days of living on site though it's been over 30 years since I lived in a bus.
Paradise Quarry, this brings back memories,,, Quarry between Shepton and Wells , on back road, ?? Heart breaking memories from this area ❤❤❤😭😭😭.....
Lovely pic of Eve, and I think that is Ciely behind ,,wow such a long time ago🐎🐎🐎
I remember talking to staff at the benefits office at Abbey Road in Torquay in the 1980s. They said that their department had to have two people in a special van carrying all the records of the new age travellers' biggest convoy round the country with them, because some of them had trashed some of their offices if their benefits weren't already waiting for them.
Yes, but is that actually true at all?
@@PeterBorenius Fair question. I have no reason to disbelieve them. The van bit seems very likely. However, the other bit was presumably internal hearsay as Abbey Road office had no problems that I recall.
Likewise, you have no reason to believe me, as this is not verifiable on this medium. I could either suppress it, or put it out there. I chose to put it out there. Make of it what you will.
I have had a quick internet search and you may find the following interesting: MEAN FIELDS: NEW AGE TRAVELLERS, THE ENGLISH COUNTRYSIDE AND THATCHERISM by David Christopher. It offers some circumstantial support, as benefits staff apparently had to go out to traveller sites, which is not normal practice. For this they presumably required a vehicle. Furthermore, as travellers were mobile, there would presumably be a need to get their records around the country quickly, if they were to be paid. Sedentary society's welfare system is not equipped to be quickly responsive to several hundred mobile claimants turning up simultaneously.
Find the others....,,................. Scottish Highlands here. Time to return - gather
I remember the battle of the beanfield very well.
Freedom of lifestyle Travellers best kind, kindred Spirits time to stand up once more HAY BLUFF :)FEB 2021..
The Battle of the Beanfield, that made me chuckle until I googled it. WTF
you know
It was fucked up, my mate was there his stories of how police treated people turn your guts.
i have started travelling(in my seventies)not seen anything resembelng a revolution!! BUT,,,i admire your past exploits and detest the attitude of current government agencies that want to deny the right of citizens to move around and enjoy our countryside.
The electric camper vans will be a game-changer
, for travelers
Consider this, you move to a new city, the options for renting would be $2000 for some crappy noisy apartment
with neighbors playing music that keeps you up all night, or instead, go down the local Volkswagon dealer, and finance a Volkswagon Electric camper van for $1000 per month, no money down. The camper van will now be a very attractive alternative for many people.
It could save you $1500+ per month
Its the electric vehicles which will be the game-changer., and being able to recharge from the local gas (now electric) pump.
You can live without a generator, so very much easier, just recharge from the electric pump, at low cost
The super high cost of renting, vs low easy cost of electric camper vans
will cause a renaissance in traveling
, the economics with drive it.
They make these camper vans in vast factories, fully automated, takes about 40 hours of human labor to make them
so their cost is quite cheap, compared to housing which takes 1000's of hours to make
And as for where you park them, A sort of air BNB for camper vans app will emerge.,
people will rent out a patch of land, like for Air BNB, You never set foot in their house, Even if you had the bubonic plague,
it wouldn't bother the landlord, as you never set foot in their house just rent a patch of their land, it doesn't need any hookups.
You find where to rent, from you cell app. Drive your electric van there pay over the cell phone, and stop where you like.
So, just think.
A Cell app, like AirBNB - finds people willing to rent out a spot for you to park you van
electric camper van - can recharge at the local pump, so no hookups needed.
very luxurious, low cost, affordable, viable living
Never have to worry about being evicted, as you just get on the cell phone, use the "Boondock" app, as we could call it
to lookup the best place to stay, pay over the cell phone with visa.
the electric hookup was one of the biggest barriers to mobile living
The cell phone finds your the place to stay. - people renting small patches of land, for you to park on
also, with the cell phones getting high-speed data plans, you now have all utilities you need when mobile
Electric vans + high-speed mobile phone networks + work remote-jobs,
suddenly traveling becomes a very viable lifestyle
when the electric camper vans like Volkswagon start to appear
+ lots more work remote jobs, as a result of Covid-19
we will see a new generation of travelers, that's my prediction
I intend to join them if I can.
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The more I write, the more I think this will happen
- The cell phone app, like AirBNB, but let's call it "Boondock" -
Have this on your cell phone. Book a spot to rent, GPS drive to it
Park your electric camper van there. Totally legal, and easy, no evictions
travel the entire country, meet up with folks. Work using the cell data connection
travel all through US, UK, Europe. Working 8 hours per day, remotely, just living out your electric camper van
I see this as the future, for many folks.
A new generation of travelers to appear soon
enabled by work remote-jobs, high-speed cell networks, and all-electric camper vans
You are a nut job, this electric garbage is a collapsing Ponzi scheme...which is why hybrids are now the focus of attention. Shit doesn't work at zero degrees clown.
Hi Stephen, I'm selling my house and buying a van while I can, would love an electric bus but not here yet, my girlfriend has a Hyundai Kona she loves it, free charging at different places and no instant emissions for pedestrians
@@AlexM-ed3wf So you dont mind scumbag Elon Musk buying parts of Countries to "dig" up for the Lithium?...and you dont mind using fossil fuel to charge the battery?, you greenies are fkn clueless.
My mate had her bus smashed and her nose broken and was given a producer for 2 moths! Thats the MET police for you.. That the Tories for you!
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What's this New Age actually mean ?
All travellers of the road 😊 lovely way of life with nature & real salt of the earth people great characters 😊
I left home in December 1985 at the age of 17, I just couldn't stand living with my parents any more. There were no decent jobs to be had and by rights the better jobs should have gone to family men, of which I was not one at the time.
Difficult nowadays tho to get that work,but it is still outthere.30yrs out of england now for me but ime still a Leveller ,England my home 👨🔧 a green and pleasant land.
The problems started in Ernest when the "peace convey" tore down the fences at greenham common...the establishment didn't like hippies messing around with their nukes
No, I don't think it was.. It was the numbers.. They were worried the future of their country was gonna fuck off and live on the road.. They couldnt have their capatilist regime end.
Really enjoyed this.... Very truthfully explained..
im one of the new people that live in a van for 3 years now best move ive ever made cut my working hours two 25 hours a week now and i live very comfortable got a stove that heat my water and van shower with water recalling fileted water got 1000watts of solar and 7 battery's microwave full house cooker and the best is a proper WC, 42in tv and computer Full 5g Internet i miss nothing of the house life apart from empty my WC most of the time i lift a man hole to the sewer on a industry estate at the moment but would normally pop to a camp site once a week but that been a problem lately
Good for you
Theres a similar life style in wales a caravan small site with alternative 'lifestyle' people that moved but unfortunately 2 'friends' when they was drunk and on skunk smoked up as well he ended up killing the guy both of em relatively old but the oldest died and the killer wore a wig and was on c.tv i think this was in wales at first .unfortantly his friend and friends wife lied to 👮 s and he was on the 🏃 .but obviously hes in jail
@@waynesilverman3048 wow
78-84 I was a kid on the sites. We did have a festival at May hill BBC there riots over our dog ripoff got shot. Hep A hit the BBC news can't find that either... Lots hidden.
I went to Stonehenge festival the year before it was raided and bullied by the police. Great free festival, so sad to see it smashed the next year.
I was around in my bus at those times.
Good retrospective on the scene then, well done!
Im still on a bus, but now in Hawaii. No cold, the solar is anazing and everything good grows!
Where are the others now?
right, lets get stuff right....
the travellers would take the sight.. the RAVERS wuld turn up have theyre party,, then leave the place like it wasnt.. leaving the travellers to take the blame for it.. remember Thatcher took away benefits from under18 y,o .
so I ended up on site ware they looked after theyre own, unlike society today who all out for themselves..
I dunno. We use to hold raves on traveller sites and all our sound systems use to clean up/ litter pick in the morning. Pretty much left as it was.
@@hear1me1now Trouble is, those "rave sites" were people's communities ie. their homes and streets.When the ravers eventually moved on and went home to their own streets and councils moved in to shut off the now so-called party sites and moved the new travellers on, this resulted in one less useable site. And this continues to happen until all the open spaces had been closed and this is how it remains today. Very sad, I would have loved to have immersed myself into this wonderful, eccentric diverse cross-section of humanity. I am sure the day to day living was fairly tough but also you were living free how you wanted to. You cannot put a price on that .
There was no ravers prior to 88, hippies, punks ect, no ravers. No cheesey quavers. These guys are mainly reminiscent of Stonehenge days, hawkwind and other bands, acid no e. Lots of brew. Ganga. Bet I've met you johnny boy.
Please give Alan 'Tash' Lodge some credit and a mention here for the pictures used here. Credit where credit is due, don't you think!!!
He's credited in the opening and closing credits - but neither you or he seem to have noticed
@@PeterBorenius I think what's at issue is no credit in the description.
Tories Chickens will come to Tory Homes to Roost ! Tories Out & Stay Out.
To This day I have a problem with anyone wanting landless tenancy ! Ask any crabby old leftie .or tory....... it gets like two feuding sides of the same worthless family .......
29.05 mins valid point for today
Really interesting interview👍🏻
It's what the BBC trained me to do.
Now they just cut and paste press releases from arms firms Israel and big pharma etc lobbies into their autocue for an antiques roadshow bus conductor to read...
Happy on the river old sprit lives here ❤❤❤
My bus became a local command centre for the anti poll-tax militancy..
We organised huge band's of people to confront any bailiff's hoping to steal people's belongings for non payment of the vile tax.
Bristol was the kindest to me. Cumberland Basin, great fun...
Excellent.
THE OTHER SIDE THEY WON’T SPEAK OF
By Kevin Attwood
As most of you know my teenage years were the 1980’s and man they were full on and VERY scary times, Miner Strikes, C.N.D., National Front, MASS Unemployment & so on. It was the third generation of West Indian, Pakistan & Indian’s that were saying to their parents and grandparents about how the Plod and society was SO racist, how they could be stopped and searched and held for 48hrs on just how they LOOKED, it was called the “Suss Law”, in 1981 this all came to a MASSIVE head and riots broke out across the country in West Indian, Pakistan & Indian areas places like Brixton, Tokteth, Moseside, Handsworth & St Paul’s and due to this it was made illegal for the plod to use the “The Suss Law” around the very same time they had opened up Operation Cross Country when the Plod investigated ITSELF, for Corruption mainly, which didn’t turn out TO WELL and a few arrests in the London Vice Squad, but MANY saw Racism as well. I once asked my Jamaican mate where was the most scary place he’d been and he replied,” I of course have been to Kingston and down town Kingston [JAMAICA] but Brixton Police station was the most scary place you REALLY didn’t know if and how you would come out of there.” It was the VERY same for the Irish to.
There was another community that went through the VERY same and they were WHITE, from all forms of education, class and wealth, some went to Eaton & St Pauls public school as well as Oxford & Cambridge, you know? And were treated the VERY same, the plod/society/authorities treated them the VERY same as the West Indian, Pakistan & Indian’s and who was this community? The Hippy Traveller/Squatter/Alternative one, people whom lived a NON - COMFORATIVE society, they smoked dope, lived on buses, went to festivals, loved going to Stone Hendge, playing and hearing strange out there music, they DIDN’T want to get married, have a wife and kids as well as a Mortgage and do the whole 9 - 5 thing. See you must understand a MAJORITY of this scene was full of people whom society had labelled and pushed into boxes and try and crush their spirit and made them to conform, ex Armed Forces with Post Trauma after years serving in Northern Ireland and going to the Falklands shot to bits, you had guys whom went to public school and didn’t know what a home was, those whom been through the care system and dumped out at 16, guys whom been in Prisons all the so-called wasters of this world & the rejected and that is why I fitted in SO WELL.
By the early 1980’s roaming the country was the “Peace Convoy” lot a bunch lovely PEACEFUL Hippy based Travellers who just wanted to be left alone and not be harassed, well Thatcher was in power and she’d already done the Miners, the strike finished in 1984. Then us lot turned up, by the way I was now in Basildon on probation and COULDN’T go or join, which now I am SO glad I wasn’t. It all climaxed with a HUGE battle on a field called “The Beanfield” now there has been A LOT of talk about who was the plod really and like Olgavey they were defo ARMY dressed up as plod. On arrival the very first thing they did was smash ALL the vehicles windows making it illegal to drive they went PROPER over the board, men, women and even children were frown in this nightmare mix it was a TOTAL kicking, 100’s of arrested, people patched up in hospitals and so on.
UN - LIKE other groups we were STILL deemed out - casts and then in 1991 the Criminal Justice Act was brought in, five trucks in ANY form of so-called convoy all trucks could be impounded & crushed and all adults arrested, it wold be like be knocking down your house and the two next to you on each side, this is where they LIVED, we are STILL deemed as bad and out cast, it made it SO hard so many gave up their life’s and either moved away or moved into homes, many would end up back on Smack and dead within a few years, the council housing or what I call “Utopian Nightmare” were now in such a awful state and if there were any you would so lucky, throwing people 17 floors up in the sky, the VERY same reason SO MANY escaped that and hence why I lived for so long in a HUGE, my people were lost, my generation was fucked, Heroin was everywhere and so was Crack, still we were out casts and we spoke up were told to,” Shut up.” But we will return to our fields and ways one day.
well said, I knew I had been through a nightmare!!!!!:-)
There a Irish traveller sites all over the place here and nobody tries to move them on.
where are they at ?
Lovly ole trucks blast from the past ive been a vandewller 35 yrs 🇬🇧
I would luv to live like this always been my way of thinking
Do it then. There's no test or qualification required!
Yep it's already started ex corporation bus',s make great homes.
Murphy/Ninja Dave are you still out there?
Superb Interview 💚
Fascinating lay-by in British youth culture.These days, it's more like a rolling refugee camp 🍳
2024. Travellers and unions then. Muslims and Unions now. What a way to run a country. Thanks for recording a small but important part of British history/current affairs.
Interesting program, thanks for uploading......DA