@@pes21-q1j last year? or the past 5years? if its past 5yearsl. Salah clears.. if only last year sure Vini. but the Ballon dor not an award for Who is the best midfielder/Winger. it's the best player overall Vini wasn't.. Billingham clears ahead last seaosn and lots of players ahead of him... Mbappe Idc what he won or not he was better player than Vini.... but people just wants to give it to him because of CL.
Due to UEFA CL 2024 and the pivotal role he played in them winning a treble he is ahead of Rodri. De Bruyne being constantly looked over is also a major concern especially with him playing a more visible and pivotal role for City. Rodri is exceptional but he is being given too much flowers here.
I will never pay big bucks to watch a player like rodri no matter how many titles or games he wins but i will definitely pay to watch players like vini mbappe foden yamal and others! Also people seem to forget how vini performed last season, he was an absolute BEAST! This is what happens during the wc and euros, people suddenly get amnesia and forget everything how the season finished. They swap 50+ games performance with 4-7 games in euro or world cup. Embarrassing….
@@Prince-tv9xf if your a true football fan you’d also pay to watch rodri and also appreciate that side of the game, real football fans appreciate every aspect of how the game is played not just the attacking players, this comment just proves you are a casual fan
because you don't have big bucks. you don't even make minimum wage. where were you when the fraud modric stole the ballon d'or in 2018. You definitely weren't singing the same tune then
Your comment is trash.. I can judge all players on the same scale regardless of what position you play.. let me tell you rodri is a better player than vini.. there are many players I'd have a headache picking vini over them in that position.. rodri will be a beast n dominant next season, but vini can have a good or bad season next year.. plus last season prior to Christmas I really didn't see vini, I saw more Bellingham carrying that team... then he goes international n wasn't successful... so balon dor for half a season great performance n bad international outing?
because then it was about kdb. Last season kdb was mostly injured and Rodri took over, hence the rodri discussion. Its just like benzema was not the main man till ronaldo was at real madrid
When you are competing against KDB, Mbappe, Halaand, and Messi..... you think Rodri will make the list? lol... no chance.. However, THIS YEAR... who is doing good? If it is up to me I don't give it to anyone and I cancel this year Ballon dor... nobody desereve it everyone was midicore... Billinghaam only did good the start of the season then decline... Vini only did good in Champion's league, Laliga wasn't constant he scores in 1 game then second 2 games he vanishes and he did nothing in Copa america when it matters... Rodri was good but not a Ballon dor level guy sorry if it's based on trophies.. Kroos/Carvajal should be on the list also... I don't see anyone from last year a true Ballon dor level guy... so Between Bellingham,Vini,Rodri if you let me choose I choose Rodr ithat's why everyone is choosing Rodri not because he was too good no.
So the Ballon dor now is based on "Winning everything with your team." ? or the actual BETTER induvial player overall? Carvajal nowhere near the BEST football player last year he was just good right back nothing much.
@@zorashkibalon dor has always been complicated. Look at messi last 3. Look at messi and CR7 win over axvi robben and iniesta. Just saying. Cavajal did not just win. He scored tackle involved defended all in for club and country. This is why he should win or be top 3.
No he does not!!! Most impactful player and skill level is not him. Hes not the reason madrid or spain won. He's def not prime time ramos or close doesn't deserve ballon d'or
You expect Vini to win Copa America when Brazil has not had a coach for a long time and now with new coach, new players who play everywhere in the world, new captain and coach with no system of play and who has never coached a national team before.... And in comparison, to Jude, Rodri...tell me how they would have performed if they got themselves in Vini's situation. Also remember, refereeing and VAR in Copa America is not even near to European Standards. It's like during the time of Pele in 50s and 60s where there were no yellow cards whether a player's leg is broken
What they do know is their skin color though. It can’t be just be pure coincidence that the first time two black dudes were the heavy favorites is the year these people “want” a player “whose game isn’t dictated by stats”.
I can’t believe that people are using a 1 month tournament to discredit Vinicius Junior from the Ballon Dor race. In an international year, these major competitions do play a significant role no matter how good of a season a player has at club level since international football is equally as important as club football in the Ballon Dor race, at the same time it’s recency bias when you’re ignoring the entire season and downplay it for a 6 or 7 game tournament. He wasn’t at his best at the Copa América as yes he was suspended for the quarterfinals when Brazil were knocked out by Uruguay and ok part of that is his fault even though the team as a whole sucked whether you like it or not, Vini deserves the Ballon Dor over Jude Bellingham and Rodri. Part of why some people should back him to win this award over those 2 despite being elite midfielders is the fact that players who are flashy attract great appeal to fans and pundits where in any moment of a game they can pull off an audacious trick that is unexpected and he’s that type of player to do that and since he’s an attacker, he scores a lot of goals in big moments. He’s an enjoyable player to watch when he has the ball and he has that individual flair and brilliance that has been missing with players in today’s game. It’s not even just about his attractive style of play, his consistent performances contributed to winning football. For someone who missed 2-3 months with injuries, 24 goals and 11 assists 35 G/A in all competitions is a good return and can you imagine what his numbers would’ve looked like if he stayed fit all season. He produced a lot of match winning displays which were key to Real Madrid winning a lot of trophies last season as in the champions league knockout stages in the latter stages of the competition got a G/A from the RD of 16 to the final itself including 3 goals and 2 assists against the likes of Manchester City Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund not to mention his brilliant hat trick against Barcelona in the Spanish Super Cup and he destroyed them which ended up securing the league title for them as well. In terms of individual ability and big game performances Vini was the best player in the world in that regard and the impact a player has on their team combined with how they perform in big games are key factors in the Ballon Dor race. While Jude Bellingham had a great season in La Liga and he also played well in the Champions League and was part of an England team that made the final of the EUROs where he had his moments, for someone in the conversation to be the best player in the world, he wasn’t as impactful as Vini in a lot of these big games in the Champions League and in he’s clearly a better footballer than him purely off the eye test. He is still the frontrunner to win the Ballon Dor and had England won the EUROs, it would’ve been a different conversation even though that’s not how we should perceive an award that’s all about who’s had a great season individually.
Media manufactured hype jobs like Vinicius would never have been deemed worthy of the Ballon d'Or when it was still a credible accolade from 1956 to 2009.
@@lonelyboy1977 100000% vinicious cannot even clean the boots of the names in those era. a total disgrace to have this insufferable brat even mentioned in this accolade.
I use a 1 year period to determine vinicious cannot string together two passes, is an insufferable brat in unsportsmanlike behavior. giving vinicious such accolade is a total disgrace to the history of the ballon. these prices go to the cruyff, maradona, messi, gullit, van basten etc. vinicious can beg to clean their boots. nowhere near the talent.
Three reasons: - His poor WC performance has harmed his reputation terribly. - Copa America doesn't get 1/10th the hype except to celebrate Messi - He flopped in the CL I'd put him T2 after Vini Jr though. My top 5 would be 1. Vini 2. Lautaro 3. Jude 4. Kane 5. Mbappe
42 G/A, UCL Winner, La Liga Winner, Spanish Super Cup Winner - all this in 2021/22 and guess where Vinicius finished in the Ballon d'Or nominations? 8th, he finished fkin EIGHTH. You know how bizzare that is? He wasn't even hated like he is right now back then in 2022 & still he couldn't finish top 3 after Benzema won the Ballon d'Or & Vini x Benz duo was the best in the world. I still remember Neymar saying 'I was a joke' that Vini didn't finish in top 3. Fast forward in 2024, he is getting the exact same treatment. At this rate you should think that this is not about hate, but much more than that.
Just a gentle reminder about vini's 2023/24 season 1. Hattrick vs Barcelona in supercopa final. 2. Against Girona, who were second on the table at that time constantly beating big teams (scored 4 goals on both home and away against Barcelona). They were breathing down the neck of leaders madrid. Vini scored banger top corner from outside the box. And even assisted with outside of boot for Bellingham. 3. When Madrid were trailing against barcelona at bernabeu thanks to Fermin goal, in dying minutes, vini found lucas with brilliant cross for him to score and make it 2-2. 4. Same against city where madrid were trailing 3-2, he found fede with another beautiful ball. He even assisted Rodrygo at Etihad. 5. Man of the match performence against Bayern at Allianz arena scoring two goals....he even was very influential at the returend leg creating both Madrid's goal and destroying kimmich in throughout the game. 6. Scored in champions league final. 7. Hattrick against valencia. You name it. He has been by far the best player this season. And these recency biassed merchants try to change the narrative. If he doesn't get Ballon d'or, then there is no value of this award.
@@bilbobluntz1946 Stop being delusional. He provokes referees, opponents and fans in every competition: La Liga, UCL and Copa America. The guy is an a,hole.
Carvajal was outstanding this season and was as important as rodri in their respective seasons and when they played in Spain national they were both crucial but carvajal season came with important goals like the ucl final
Why tf does bellingham deserve it at all? Haaland and lautaro deserve it more than bellingham this is why british people are annoying af... overhyped players.. overhyped squad.. overhyped country.. theyre all mid
The reality is Vini attracts criticism because he simultaneously rightfully calls out racism but also plays the race card far too often when it’s not necessary. Likewise, regardless of race related issues, he does stuff like simultaneously blatantly diving while also very theatrically confronting opponents who also dive. His personality on the field comes across as a provocateur, instigator, entertainer, and contrarian. There is no doubting his ability but the reason he attracts a lot of criticism is because of his contrarian personality on the field and the fact that he rightfully calls out racism while also taking it too far to overplay the victim role. That will naturally antagonize him from a lot of people.
These guys talk as if Carvahal is a nobody. That man is very important in Real Madrid and he scored in the UCL final. I still choose Vini but using their logic, Carvahal deserves it more than Rodri
I hoped Rodri wins it but the fact that City rivals are even gunning for Rodri makes me sick now ..They now wish Premier league gets a taste of Ballon d'Or even if it means kissing City's a$$ ..I wish Vini wins it, he deserves it more
Your reasoning is exaclty the reason why a midfielder or defender or gk (almost) never win the ballon d or. Comparing a cdm's contribution to a strikers contribution will obviously look skewed. Rodri's impact is impeccable from a deep lying position. And he has been that for 4 years straight.
Saying that without rodri spain wouldn't have won meanwhile spain played better when he was taken off and won 😂😂 also rodri was not even the 3rd best player for spain i was shocked when he won that award.vini never had it easy and never will i guess.
Spain would have won 2-0 with rodri. Spain played better in 2nd half because they were more attacking, moved the ball quickly and Eng weren't as defensive
@GauravYadav-bf7qj woulda coulda shoulda , my point is he isn't that irreplaceable player people make him out to be ,just because city have a shity Phillips doesn't mean rodri is that irreplaceable, he is a great player the best in his position today, but not ballon dor worthy this season, he deserved it last season. I didn't hear his name near the top 3 until he got that undeserved pott.
his attitude is because those who are supposed to do their jobs don't do it. Refs or media are supposed to call our racism against players but none of them are doing that maybe coz most of them are not affected and don't understand racism due to their color. It was only after Vini took matters in his own hands that people started talking about it in the media as if racism was not there before. Vini is fighting from all fronts and I guess those who don't want him to win are mostly not affected by racism due to their color
@@musamanneh8939 As you stated, he was the best player in this year's UCL. But I'd go even further and say, he had the highest peak this season. Ofc you could punish him for getting himself suspended before the Uruguay game, and pick Rodri or Bellingham instead, who both were solid throughout the whole season.
@@benh.m6520 And then the Copa America began and Vini was still a provoking a,hole = he confirmed the racism is an excuse he uses to justify his pathetic behavior in La Liga
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Of course Carvajal should be a contendor, but not the winner! Based on that, Jourginho deserves Ballon dor! As for Rodri, then when was he ever in Balon dor conversation? Before the Euro he was like 7th spot. As soon as he won it now he is the favorite? These guys have personal problem with Vini JR. They forgot every thing he did. They first said Bellingham should win it,. then they said Kroos should win it, then Florain Wirtz, and now Rodri over Vini JR. -UCL -LA LIGA -SPANISH super cup -Key player for Madrid to win all these trophies - Most decisive player -UCL best player -UCL team of the season -La liga team of the season -provided immensely in all knockout games for Madrid -Goal in UCL final -Hattrick against Barca in Super cup final -Samba award -Decent performance in Copa America, scoring 2 goals and 1 MVP (He did it for terrible Brazil team) The hate on this guy is just insane!!!
All of a sudden CDM are important. Carvajal just had his best season with some highlight moments. Jude has the best stats for a CAM in his first year at 20 years old, Vini carried Madrid through the knockout rounds. So what did Rodri do besides defend and pass?
@@KaboMogotsi his duty is to defend… Vini duty or Bellingham isn’t to be scoring 20+ goals. Had Rodri had high assist as well being the focal point in his team which he’s not it’s been Haaland, KDB, Nico, Yamal, and Omel
Yes, Rodri had a good Euro tournament, but to say Spain won because of him, is absurd. Him on the field in the final, score was 0-0. It was without him they scored two goals in the final. What we know for a fact is that a Madrid player will win this Balon D' Or. Vini, Carvajal, or Bellingham.
Based on your description Carvajal deserves more than Rodri. If Carvajal is not Real Madrid best player, Rodri is not city’s best player neither. City’s best players are Foden and KDB. People are doing everything to discredit Vini.
On top of that, Foden was awarded PL poty and because he sucked at the euros, no one talks about him. If England had won despite his performances in the euros, they would have said Foden deserved it over Bellingham. These channels want to see the Ballon dor return to England which hasn't happened since Cristiano Ronaldo won it.
Lautaro Martinez should win it on merit based on individual and collective achievements. Vini, Rodri and or Carvahal don't even come close to Latutaro as per the award criteria.
Pure racism if Vini doesn't get the ballon D'or. It is not because he did not win Copa America, that's just an excuse. How can you put Vini in the same class with any of those you think will win it?
So we just gonna act as if Rodri and Man City didnt go crashing out the biggest tournament in club football? Or we gonna put the prem title at the same pedestal as winning the UCL? Like seriously this Rodri conversation is as stupid as Jorginho winning it back in 2021
Guys this Rodri agenda is bad. Rodri was knocked out of the Champions League and was knocked out of the FA final by Man United. Dani Carvajal scored 7 goals as a right-back: 4 in La Liga, 1 in the Champions League final, and 1 in the Supercoppa. He also scored in the Euros for Spain. He's won the Euros, Champions League, Supercoppa, and the League. How can you compare Rodri with Carvajal
They hate Vini for the same reason they hated Cristiano. They hate his passion, his stride, his confidence and willingness to do whatever it takes to win. They hate that he can “arrogantly” walk all over any team he wants because he’s THAT good. He was always going to have to work twice as hard to get half the respect. Let those who have eyes see, but we will be getting our Ballon D'or. Hala Madrid! Y Nada Mas.
Spoken like a true narcissist…. Yeah its not cause he always act like a self centered arrogant person that only cares about himself. Same applies to Ronaldo. Look at modric everyone loves him and he is Way more succesfull than vini. All this does not change how good of players they are. If vini wins balon dor it Will be deserved and Ronaldo is easily one of the Best players of all time
Stop this lying...Rodri wasn't even the best player for any of the two. PHILL FODEN was voted the best player in their league and we all saw that Lamine, Nico and Olmo were the ones carrying Spain. Rodri lost to Real Madrid and Man United in City's most important games of the season. Spain played better and even won the final with him off the pitch. Now remove Vini from both club and country and see that they don't go anywhere without him. He had 2 assists in the UCL vs Rodri's city, 2 Goals in the UCL semi's and a goal in the UCL final. Brazil's top goal scorer in the Copa and missed the knockout match that got them out of the competition through a yellow that was bogus. I can also make the same argument for Carvajal who was instrumental for both club and country. He scored the winning goal in the UCL final, scored in the Euro's and also scored crucial goals in the League. He won every single trophy available for him this season except for the Copa Del Rey. Stop lying to yourself just because you hate Real Madrid always having top genuine contenders for the Ballon d'Or. Give it a rest man it's embarrassing
Vini jnr was owned by defenders in the ucl final like he was in 2022 and score a lucky goal. Vini jnr don’t dominate games like Rodri. Rodri is better with the ball at his feet over fictitious jnr
I´ve been right on all ballon dor winners since 2005 except 2010 and 2013. I say Vinicius deserve this one - the only one who really tried for Brazil and turned up for Madrid in important games. Rodri a close 2nd place
@@tomasmaniago5832 Idk, I didn't watch Copa America aside from 3 min RUclips highlights, but I think they could have made the final. They only lost to Uruguay in the penalty shootout, didn't they?
@@tomasmaniago5832 copa america is a knockout competition largely. If you win 7 games on the trot hook or crook, you are a champion. It's a completely different topic when the quality of teams are high in these tournaments. Only Spain and Germany played well in this intl season. CL winner is little bit more battle tested and that's only cuz each round from R16 has home and away games. That being said, i will vote for Rodri myself. The most deserving of all is Carvajal imo but sadly he is not a forward. Reminds of those players who were robbed like Iniesta, Ribbery, Van Dijk and Lewandowski. Anyways these awards are faciliated by journalists, who are largely jokers misleading people to earn their salary. So never mind
Let not act like vini was the through out season them get me wrong he had some good moments on the second half of the season but there was some time that Bellingham was carrying Madrid and b4 the champions league semi final was Kane and mbappe was leading the race too now everything base on the international tournament and vini mess up big time why everyone saying Rodri is because of consistency and how important he is for his team and the game he didn’t played he team lose whilst he is the best in his position
Freddie Adu was a good shout. The guy played for 15 different clubs spanning 17 years between 2004 and 2021, finishing at Österlen in the Swedish league and before that in the USL, the second tier of US football. Thats some falloff from Benfica and Monaco where he had very brief spells earlier in his career considering all the hype there was around him. I hope for his sake the USFA and his MLS club don’t ruin Cavan Sullivan before he’s even got going. He’s only 14 and being hugely hyped up. All he has right now is potential and hopefully he doesn’t get over played and burnt out too early. His body is still growing and he needs to be played sparingly. Don’t know if he’s any good tbh, but people have to bear in mind he’s playing in the MLS and not in a top European league. Theres a huge difference in quality.
Winning trophies alone should not be enough for the Balon d'or, it should be about the best player on the planet and Carvajal is far from that he ain't even the Best Right Back let alone overall player.
I wish he wins it but the fact that City rivals are even gunning for Rodri makes me sick ..They now wish Premier league gets a taste of Ballon d'Or even if it means kissing City's a$$
Lol That record was set over multiple years, He came back from injury and lost that streak this season did you forget?. Then got knocked out by the clown sqaud in FA cup, then vini knocked him out in the UCL. He started all those games
Vini only lost three games for club and country the whole year and one game went to extra time while the other he got hurt Won more trophies than Rodri and was player of the tournament in the UCL
Stupid espn, one Tournament and they forget what players did for the entire season. No wonder they handed balon dor to messi while he had a poor season with PSG
Rodri deserves it most since the best scorer, Kane, didnt win any titles, giving it to Jude or Vinni will be a farce just like not giving it to Lewa during the covid season.
Before going to international tournament Vini was favourite or only four five player are in the list who can actually displace vini if they had great tournament like Bellingham who himself didn't have good tournament, kroos who was great but his team lost quater final if only they won that match maybe they could have been the champion too but that didn't happen, 3 player was mbappe if he had great euro like winning it and won golden boot best player award at the tournament but any of those didn't happen so VIni still deserves ballon d'or Rodri was never in competition carvajal should finish higher than him and if anyhow they are giving it to rodri i would prefer it to give messi again or cancel it 😅
He's a multi millionaire and had his mates film him potentially abusing women ..so don't feel over-sympathetic to him , his poor form came before his "mental issues"
Rodri was the best player for both club and country last season period! Messi won it last year because of an international trophy even though he was a non factor at club level so clearly, international trophies are more important for BalonDor. If it was just about goals and club trophies, Haaland had everything in his debut season to win last year. If the BalonDor is judged fairly and with consistent metrics, then Rodri is the clear winner!
Stop lying...Rodri wasn't even the best player for any of the two. PHILL FODEN was voted the best player in their league and we all saw that Lamine, Nico and Olmo were the ones carrying Spain. Rodri lost to Real Madrid and Man United in City's most important games of the season. Spain played better and even won the final with him off the pitch. Now remove Vini from both club and country and see that they don't go anywhere without him. He had 2 assists in the UCL vs Rodri's city, 2 Goals in the UCL semi's and a goal in the UCL final. Brazil's top goal scorer in the Copa and missed the knockout match that got them out of the competition through a yellow that was bogus. I can also make the same argument for Carvajal who was instrumental for both club and country. He scored the winning goal in the UCL final, scored in the Euro's and also scored crucial goals in the League. He won every single trophy available for him this season except for the Copa Del Rey. Stop lying to yourself just because you hate Real Madrid always having top genuine contenders for the Ballon d'Or. Give it a rest man it's embarrassing
“League Two player”, “overrated”, “will never win a Ballon Dor football fell off”, and yet despite being nowhere near his best and missed a chunk of games with injuries, Erling Haaland still scored 38 goals in all competitions and won his 2nd consecutive Golden Boot in the Premier League in his first 2 seasons. People will say “oh he’s playing with a bunch of creative players” and that’s a fair point, regardless even if his linkup play is poor and they have so many good players, he was still putting up the numbers and they still won the league. He’s a victim of his own success because in his debut season at Manchester City, he was banging goals left right and center and breaking records for running all competitions, I mean he had 52 goals in 53 games, he broke the scoring record in the league, had the most goals out of any player in Europe’s top 5 leagues also the top scorer in the champions league he won the treble and was in the conversation for the Ballon Dor. It was never always going to be easy for Haaland to replicate his heroics in the 2022-23 season because yes he managed to drop off a little bit and at times he was inconsistent missed a lot of chances that he would usually be converting and there were a lot of big games where he made little to no impact on the team; as an elite striker, the reality is that he’s guaranteed to score goals and he is doing his job and puts the ball in the back of the net at a staggering rate. Next season is the same story for Haaland in front of goal.
Even last season when he came second in Ballon Dor voting, he wasn’t even the most impactful player on his team. I’m sorry but his big game track record isn’t impressive at all for a player of his caliber and unfortunately for him that’s what wins you these awards. Harry Kane is far more rounded player than he is and he’s not even going to win this season despite putting up monster numbers. Haaland will win a Ballon Dor when he shows the world he can get it done when the lights are the at their brightest.
He fully deserved that award, and this is the year to win it. It is highly recommended and a MUST for Real Madrid management, board of directors, coaching staff, people working in their club who are involved on the transfer-market to permanently sell who are currently out on loan to play for another football club, do not offer a loan with buy back clause or with a number or percentage rights, recall or return players that are currently on-loan by another football club to play for Real Madrid, ageing ((28) years old and above), inconsistent (due to limited playing time, never have played and always on the bench, poor defensively, not performing well) regardless of age, injury prone, those who are not comfortable playing in different position, that MUST happen on or before July 2027. We are referring to Modric, Vasquez, Daniel Carvajal Ramos "Dani Carvajal", Courtois, Alaba, Rudiger, Mendy, Daniel Ceballos Fernández "Dani Ceballos" Jesús Vallejo Lázaro "Jesus Vallejo", Francisco José García Torres "Fran Garcia", Diaz, Juan Miguel Latasa Fernández "Juanmi Latasa", Reinier Jesus Carvalho "Reinier", Nicolás "Nico" Paz Martínez, & Guler. Confirmed leaving Real Madrid n as some will no longer renew, return to their respective football club that are being loaned out to Real Madrid and a few getting sold permanently with or without a buy back clause on or before September 2024: Rafael Marín Zamora "Rafa Marin", Kroos, José Ignacio Fernández Iglesias "Nacho", José Luis Mato Sanmartín "Joselu", and Arrizabalaga. Once they get sold these are the players should be sign based on their positions on or before July 2027. Right Back: Jesus Fortea, Malo Gusto Left Back: Alphonso Davies, Joskol Gvardiol Centre Back: William Saliba Centre Defensive Midfielder: Rodrigo "Rodri" Cascante Centre or Attacking Midfield: Florian Wirtz, Franco Mastantuono Lastly Real Madrid must never offer a contract to these players for a RIGHT BACK position, that are inconsistent regardless of age, poor defensively, has disadvantage of height and strength (lacks muscles), proven already that unable to stop wingers/strikers in different leagues, injury-prone, has beyond 60 million euro's transfer-market value, and ageing 27 years old and above, and turning 27 years old and above on year 2027. We are referring to Darmian, Walker, Trippier, Di Lorenzo, Cancelo, Dumfries, Calabria, White, Mazraoui, Ryerson, Wan-Bissaka, Molina, Alexander-Arnold, Hakimi, Tomiyasu, Royal, Dalot, Porro, James, Boey, Frimpong, Couto, Livramento, Terracciano, Bradley, Sanchez, Lewis, Fresneda, Gray, & Lima.
I think this is the only time that I’ve ever agreed with frank. Carvajal deserves it. Most people forget, or don’t even know, that Carvajal has STARTED and won 6 champions league finals. You don’t start 6 finals if you are not important. Dani makes crazy assists and starts crazy plays. Unfortunately like they said, right back ain’t sexy.
Like Shaka said, before the Euro and CA it was either Jude or Vini no matter what. Now all of a sudden Rodri? Its a whole joke. Trying to influence the winner with this Rodry hype train. Vinicius deserves it. He carried RM. Euro and CA are just few games, sure big tournament but cmon. You gotta be a Vini hater to switch from Jude and Vini to Rodri when he wasn't even mentioned before the Euro.
Balon d’or shouldn’t be about who has won the most (those are team trophies) but who has been the best individual player of the year… who has played the best football… People miss the point of this award…
Vini and Bellingham are more worthy of this season's Ballon d’Or than anybody else. If Rodri desrves this award, than based on those same criteria Kroos deserves it more!
The number of people downplaying Rodri is insane. He has the most trophies out of everyone and the most Player of the Tournaments out of everyone. And he only has like 12 less G/A than Vini. (Hes a DM!!)
No Agenda no nothing.. he is not the BEST footballer last year... who cares about tap ins goals in Seria A? Copa America he did good tho... I don't see anyone desereve it this year everyone was mediocre... from Billingham to Vini, to Kros, Rodri etc.. they are not a Ballon dor level players yet nobody showed that he deserve it.. the only one I can see is Vini maybe
Puttin Rodri before Vini, Belligham or even Carvajal is INSANE. In terms of contribution this has been one of his least decisive seasons. In UCL his bad performance against Madrid is one of the reasons ManCity didn't win it. Carvajal has has probably one of the best seasons of his career if not the best and has been decisive in the big games, and he won everything. Bellingham also won everything except for the final but he carried the best club in the world on his shoulders for half the season, while the other half it was Vinicius who carried it, both being literally the most exciting players on the planet right now. But Rodri plays in the EPL so these pundits would rather spout NONSENSE than say something objective and intelligent.
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Vini should win it. Unless there’s bias in the voting which I know is apart of of their system
Lol
He was the favorite after the UCL and now we’re acting like he should be 10th
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Pretty much this. Somehow after Euro Rodri who wasn't even on anyone's mind but maybe Pep and not even him, now everyone on the Rodri hype train.
@@RiPPeRZfr is Dani olmo got POTT or anyone else on Spain for Euros I don’t even think this would be a conversation
@@hm7619 I feel like they came up with Rodri because he also won with City so now hes all of a sudden best player for past season. Cmon guys.
Only Rodri for Ballon D'or!
Vini should win! Only a player with level, elite skill level to win these individual awards.
Vini deserves the ballon dor 100% .. its the time to give him the RESPECT he deserves ..
Which respect 😂 he's not even in top 5 best player in the world.
@@Gistme2023who is the best winger above vini ? Can u name one ?
@@pes21-q1j last year? or the past 5years? if its past 5yearsl. Salah clears.. if only last year sure Vini. but the Ballon dor not an award for Who is the best midfielder/Winger. it's the best player overall Vini wasn't.. Billingham clears ahead last seaosn and lots of players ahead of him... Mbappe Idc what he won or not he was better player than Vini.... but people just wants to give it to him because of CL.
Hhhh cdy he is going to win this monday@@Gistme2023
Kroos is ahead of Rodri! But Vini showed up when when Real Madrid needed it the most.
Due to euro2024 and ManCity winning epl, they will still give 2nd place to Rodri
Due to UEFA CL 2024 and the pivotal role he played in them winning a treble he is ahead of Rodri. De Bruyne being constantly looked over is also a major concern especially with him playing a more visible and pivotal role for City. Rodri is exceptional but he is being given too much flowers here.
@@arnoldsteyn480 KDB was injured for half the season. Calma.
Bro, Vini had just 2 good games in his entire UCL campaign… but I know you disagree
He’s garbage
I will never pay big bucks to watch a player like rodri no matter how many titles or games he wins but i will definitely pay to watch players like vini mbappe foden yamal and others! Also people seem to forget how vini performed last season, he was an absolute BEAST! This is what happens during the wc and euros, people suddenly get amnesia and forget everything how the season finished. They swap 50+ games performance with 4-7 games in euro or world cup. Embarrassing….
Let's be honest; you'd never pay "big bucks" to watch any of them.
It's not about you
@@Prince-tv9xf if your a true football fan you’d also pay to watch rodri and also appreciate that side of the game, real football fans appreciate every aspect of how the game is played not just the attacking players, this comment just proves you are a casual fan
because you don't have big bucks. you don't even make minimum wage. where were you when the fraud modric stole the ballon d'or in 2018. You definitely weren't singing the same tune then
Your comment is trash.. I can judge all players on the same scale regardless of what position you play.. let me tell you rodri is a better player than vini.. there are many players I'd have a headache picking vini over them in that position.. rodri will be a beast n dominant next season, but vini can have a good or bad season next year.. plus last season prior to Christmas I really didn't see vini, I saw more Bellingham carrying that team... then he goes international n wasn't successful... so balon dor for half a season great performance n bad international outing?
As a Barca fan of all the players analysis Vini deserves the ballon d’or
Forget the ballon dor, it’s voted for by journalists so it’s more about what player is most popular with journalists, 🤷🏻♂️
Rodri is the most stupid answer on this question
You say this because you want a Real Madrid player to win it
Rodri and Lautaro should also be considered for it.
@@eliasjonsson1464 please elaborate sir...why? And specifically focus on "most" part of it...why is it "most stupid"?
@@eliasjonsson1464 same people were pushing Rodri still unbeaten after getting knocked out by Madrid so I’m not surprised tbh
@@barcafc9428Your name is literally barcafc, little guy😂
You just don’t want a Madrid player to win it
and jude
Rodri???😂 when he won like 6 tiles 2 years ago… no body put his name on the table. The hate of these guys are bigger than theirs convictions!
because then it was about kdb. Last season kdb was mostly injured and Rodri took over, hence the rodri discussion. Its just like benzema was not the main man till ronaldo was at real madrid
When you are competing against KDB, Mbappe, Halaand, and Messi..... you think Rodri will make the list? lol... no chance.. However, THIS YEAR... who is doing good? If it is up to me I don't give it to anyone and I cancel this year Ballon dor... nobody desereve it everyone was midicore... Billinghaam only did good the start of the season then decline... Vini only did good in Champion's league, Laliga wasn't constant he scores in 1 game then second 2 games he vanishes and he did nothing in Copa america when it matters... Rodri was good but not a Ballon dor level guy sorry if it's based on trophies.. Kroos/Carvajal should be on the list also... I don't see anyone from last year a true Ballon dor level guy... so Between Bellingham,Vini,Rodri if you let me choose I choose Rodr ithat's why everyone is choosing Rodri not because he was too good no.
@@zorashkivinijr was suspended in the quarter final 😂
@@herchellejacobs7458that's his fault alone and even before it he sucked against both Costa Rica and Colombia Lol
Carvajal won everything, was a key player, scored in UCL final. He actually deserve it.
So the Ballon dor now is based on "Winning everything with your team." ? or the actual BETTER induvial player overall? Carvajal nowhere near the BEST football player last year he was just good right back nothing much.
Carvalhal is a Monster RB. 6 CL with Madrid and how many with Spain?
@@zorashkibalon dor has always been complicated. Look at messi last 3. Look at messi and CR7 win over axvi robben and iniesta. Just saying. Cavajal did not just win. He scored tackle involved defended all in for club and country. This is why he should win or be top 3.
It's not about how much you've won, it's about who was the best player
No he does not!!! Most impactful player and skill level is not him. Hes not the reason madrid or spain won. He's def not prime time ramos or close doesn't deserve ballon d'or
You expect Vini to win Copa America when Brazil has not had a coach for a long time and now with new coach, new players who play everywhere in the world, new captain and coach with no system of play and who has never coached a national team before.... And in comparison, to Jude, Rodri...tell me how they would have performed if they got themselves in Vini's situation. Also remember, refereeing and VAR in Copa America is not even near to European Standards. It's like during the time of Pele in 50s and 60s where there were no yellow cards whether a player's leg is broken
based on your description and here say(hypothetical "if's"), de bruyne and haaland both deserve the ballon d or
They shouldn't consider Copa America since they never cared about Southn America competitions and leagues in the ballon d'or race.
That brazil team was awful he carried them in their only win at the copa
People who want rodri to win the ballon dor know nothing about football or just hate vinicius
What they do know is their skin color though. It can’t be just be pure coincidence that the first time two black dudes were the heavy favorites is the year these people “want” a player “whose game isn’t dictated by stats”.
You are stupid
You're just a fvckin muppet 🤡🤡😏😏😏
Vinicius didn't play well for Brazil
@@BiggestChungus21 that’s rubbish there’s been plenty time a player of colour has won it
Vini Jr deserves the Ballon D’or!
only rodri for Ballon D’or!
Maybe in a paralell universe
His stats ha ha ha😅😅
@@Tommygunn258womp womp 😂
@@OKGotIT0123For what 😂
Vini is still number 1
Honestly all 3 deserve it. But the ucl is most important and vini showed up there when it mattered.
Barca fan btw
I can’t believe that people are using a 1 month tournament to discredit Vinicius Junior from the Ballon Dor race. In an international year, these major competitions do play a significant role no matter how good of a season a player has at club level since international football is equally as important as club football in the Ballon Dor race, at the same time it’s recency bias when you’re ignoring the entire season and downplay it for a 6 or 7 game tournament. He wasn’t at his best at the Copa América as yes he was suspended for the quarterfinals when Brazil were knocked out by Uruguay and ok part of that is his fault even though the team as a whole sucked whether you like it or not, Vini deserves the Ballon Dor over Jude Bellingham and Rodri.
Part of why some people should back him to win this award over those 2 despite being elite midfielders is the fact that players who are flashy attract great appeal to fans and pundits where in any moment of a game they can pull off an audacious trick that is unexpected and he’s that type of player to do that and since he’s an attacker, he scores a lot of goals in big moments. He’s an enjoyable player to watch when he has the ball and he has that individual flair and brilliance that has been missing with players in today’s game. It’s not even just about his attractive style of play, his consistent performances contributed to winning football. For someone who missed 2-3 months with injuries, 24 goals and 11 assists 35 G/A in all competitions is a good return and can you imagine what his numbers would’ve looked like if he stayed fit all season. He produced a lot of match winning displays which were key to Real Madrid winning a lot of trophies last season as in the champions league knockout stages in the latter stages of the competition got a G/A from the RD of 16 to the final itself including 3 goals and 2 assists against the likes of Manchester City Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund not to mention his brilliant hat trick against Barcelona in the Spanish Super Cup and he destroyed them which ended up securing the league title for them as well. In terms of individual ability and big game performances Vini was the best player in the world in that regard and the impact a player has on their team combined with how they perform in big games are key factors in the Ballon Dor race. While Jude Bellingham had a great season in La Liga and he also played well in the Champions League and was part of an England team that made the final of the EUROs where he had his moments, for someone in the conversation to be the best player in the world, he wasn’t as impactful as Vini in a lot of these big games in the Champions League and in he’s clearly a better footballer than him purely off the eye test. He is still the frontrunner to win the Ballon Dor and had England won the EUROs, it would’ve been a different conversation even though that’s not how we should perceive an award that’s all about who’s had a great season individually.
Vini was also the biggest a, hole. Should have been suspended a lot more.
Media manufactured hype jobs like Vinicius would never have been deemed worthy of the Ballon d'Or when it was still a credible accolade from 1956 to 2009.
@@lonelyboy1977 100000% vinicious cannot even clean the boots of the names in those era.
a total disgrace to have this insufferable brat even mentioned in this accolade.
I use a 1 year period to determine vinicious cannot string together two passes, is an insufferable brat in unsportsmanlike behavior.
giving vinicious such accolade is a total disgrace to the history of the ballon. these prices go to the cruyff, maradona, messi, gullit, van basten etc. vinicious can beg to clean their boots. nowhere near the talent.
Is there a reason why no one is talking about Lautaro Martinez being a top candidate for ballon dor?
He's definitely in the top 10
Three reasons:
- His poor WC performance has harmed his reputation terribly.
- Copa America doesn't get 1/10th the hype except to celebrate Messi
- He flopped in the CL
I'd put him T2 after Vini Jr though. My top 5 would be 1. Vini 2. Lautaro 3. Jude 4. Kane 5. Mbappe
😂😂
@@Payseur my top 10: vini, jude, rodri, kroos, lautaro, carvajal, haaland, foden, rudiger, wirtz
@@zekusasslipped in Bellingham like we wouldn't notice 💀😂
42 G/A, UCL Winner, La Liga Winner, Spanish Super Cup Winner - all this in 2021/22 and guess where Vinicius finished in the Ballon d'Or nominations? 8th, he finished fkin EIGHTH. You know how bizzare that is? He wasn't even hated like he is right now back then in 2022 & still he couldn't finish top 3 after Benzema won the Ballon d'Or & Vini x Benz duo was the best in the world.
I still remember Neymar saying 'I was a joke' that Vini didn't finish in top 3. Fast forward in 2024, he is getting the exact same treatment. At this rate you should think that this is not about hate, but much more than that.
We all know what its about
Vini without a doubt. ESPN is a bunch of haters if a player isn’t associated with England some way
Just a gentle reminder about vini's 2023/24 season
1. Hattrick vs Barcelona in supercopa final.
2. Against Girona, who were second on the table at that time constantly beating big teams (scored 4 goals on both home and away against Barcelona). They were breathing down the neck of leaders madrid. Vini scored banger top corner from outside the box. And even assisted with outside of boot for Bellingham.
3. When Madrid were trailing against barcelona at bernabeu thanks to Fermin goal, in dying minutes, vini found lucas with brilliant cross for him to score and make it 2-2.
4. Same against city where madrid were trailing 3-2, he found fede with another beautiful ball. He even assisted Rodrygo at Etihad.
5. Man of the match performence against Bayern at Allianz arena scoring two goals....he even was very influential at the returend leg creating both Madrid's goal and destroying kimmich in throughout the game.
6. Scored in champions league final.
7. Hattrick against valencia.
You name it. He has been by far the best player this season. And these recency biassed merchants try to change the narrative. If he doesn't get Ballon d'or, then there is no value of this award.
He was also an a,hole the entire season. Should have been suspended a lot more.
@@stnbch3025when was he an a**hole? Do you mean when he resisted racist provocation?
8. Unsportsmanlike/toxic personality or how they call it in today's society a winner's mentality
That justies your and many other's hate campaign against vini.
@@bilbobluntz1946 Stop being delusional. He provokes referees, opponents and fans in every competition: La Liga, UCL and Copa America. The guy is an a,hole.
It'd between Bellingham and Vini. If Rodri deserves it then so does Carvajal and kroos
Kroos carried Bellingham all season. Bellingham wasn't any good for like 5 months out of 9 + really daft the entire Euro.
@@stnbch3025 absolutely 0 football knowledge
Carvajal was outstanding this season and was as important as rodri in their respective seasons and when they played in Spain national they were both crucial but carvajal season came with important goals like the ucl final
Why tf does bellingham deserve it at all? Haaland and lautaro deserve it more than bellingham this is why british people are annoying af... overhyped players.. overhyped squad.. overhyped country.. theyre all mid
@@Anonymous-fx3oc Anyone that thinks Bellingham and Foden are some kind of world class playmakers is simply delusional. That's you.
The reality is Vini attracts criticism because he simultaneously rightfully calls out racism but also plays the race card far too often when it’s not necessary. Likewise, regardless of race related issues, he does stuff like simultaneously blatantly diving while also very theatrically confronting opponents who also dive. His personality on the field comes across as a provocateur, instigator, entertainer, and contrarian. There is no doubting his ability but the reason he attracts a lot of criticism is because of his contrarian personality on the field and the fact that he rightfully calls out racism while also taking it too far to overplay the victim role. That will naturally antagonize him from a lot of people.
Shut up!
Well said. I can’t see him play for Madrid much longer either. Look at the PR Bellingham gets compared to Vini, and now with Mbappe too.
No, he simply isn't that good, he just thrives in real Madrid stellar midfield. He'll be on the bench this year.
Ahhhhhh....poor victim... Pls man!
@@R4X90vini was the most threatening player in the latter stages of the ucl. He is staying in Madrid
Either give Ballon d'or to Vini Jr or no Ballon d'or for 2024!
Only Rodri for Ballon D'or!
@@OKGotIT0123 bro is everywhere
To think Rodri had a better season because he lost two games whilst Vini only lost 1 game. Shows how these ppl are useless
🤣
Rodri is more impactful. Vini is just a crybaby
@@Fraudkovicso u dont watch football lol
@@herchellejacobs7458 i do . And i can see how much more impactful rodri is that than fraud crybaby vini
These guys talk as if Carvahal is a nobody. That man is very important in Real Madrid and he scored in the UCL final. I still choose Vini but using their logic, Carvahal deserves it more than Rodri
fachajal
He is not the reason spain or madrid won this yr. He is not an elite player like prime ramos, he doesn't deserve anything.
By their dumb logic jorginho should have won the ballon dor too
@@Rainandsun-88neither overrated pantalone Pamal diver varcelona negreira pr merchant
@@herchellejacobs7458carvajal is literally best RB
Balon d’or is going to Real Madrid fasho
I hoped Rodri wins it but the fact that City rivals are even gunning for Rodri makes me sick now ..They now wish Premier league gets a taste of Ballon d'Or even if it means kissing City's a$$ ..I wish Vini wins it, he deserves it more
Rodri was Spain's 3rd best player and Vini was Madrid's best player in both title wins
Rodri not Spains best player? He won euro player of tournament. But yeah Vini deserves ballon dor
He didn't deserve it, Fabian was the best player @@MrKaravaj
Your reasoning is exaclty the reason why a midfielder or defender or gk (almost) never win the ballon d or. Comparing a cdm's contribution to a strikers contribution will obviously look skewed. Rodri's impact is impeccable from a deep lying position. And he has been that for 4 years straight.
He won euro player of the tournament cause he uas the bettwr pr and sells the most for the competition sake he should never have won it. @MrKaravaj
Vini is black. He won't win it.
Saying that without rodri spain wouldn't have won meanwhile spain played better when he was taken off and won 😂😂 also rodri was not even the 3rd best player for spain i was shocked when he won that award.vini never had it easy and never will i guess.
Because Vini is a total a, hole.
U would be d dumbest person on earth if u only look at 45 mins out of d whole tournament
Exactly😅
Spain would have won 2-0 with rodri. Spain played better in 2nd half because they were more attacking, moved the ball quickly and Eng weren't as defensive
@GauravYadav-bf7qj woulda coulda shoulda , my point is he isn't that irreplaceable player people make him out to be ,just because city have a shity Phillips doesn't mean rodri is that irreplaceable, he is a great player the best in his position today, but not ballon dor worthy this season, he deserved it last season. I didn't hear his name near the top 3 until he got that undeserved pott.
Vini is winning the Ballon d'Or..He deserves it 💯 but his attitude is the problem..It might hinder his votes in this social media and sensitivity age
his attitude is because those who are supposed to do their jobs don't do it. Refs or media are supposed to call our racism against players but none of them are doing that maybe coz most of them are not affected and don't understand racism due to their color. It was only after Vini took matters in his own hands that people started talking about it in the media as if racism was not there before. Vini is fighting from all fronts and I guess those who don't want him to win are mostly not affected by racism due to their color
What makes him deserve it cuz remember this is not a champions league best player award
@@musamanneh8939 As you stated, he was the best player in this year's UCL. But I'd go even further and say, he had the highest peak this season. Ofc you could punish him for getting himself suspended before the Uruguay game, and pick Rodri or Bellingham instead, who both were solid throughout the whole season.
@@benh.m6520 And then the Copa America began and Vini was still a provoking a,hole = he confirmed the racism is an excuse he uses to justify his pathetic behavior in La Liga
This combo of Kay, Frank and Shaka + anyone else (minus Craig) is a laughter, laughter and laughter segment with innocent banter. Love these extra time segments.
Of course Carvajal should be a contendor, but not the winner! Based on that, Jourginho deserves Ballon dor!
As for Rodri, then when was he ever in Balon dor conversation? Before the Euro he was like 7th spot. As soon as he won it now he is the favorite?
These guys have personal problem with Vini JR. They forgot every thing he did. They first said Bellingham should win it,. then they said Kroos should win it, then Florain Wirtz, and now Rodri over Vini JR.
-UCL
-LA LIGA
-SPANISH super cup
-Key player for Madrid to win all these trophies
- Most decisive player
-UCL best player
-UCL team of the season
-La liga team of the season
-provided immensely in all knockout games for Madrid
-Goal in UCL final
-Hattrick against Barca in Super cup final
-Samba award
-Decent performance in Copa America, scoring 2 goals and 1 MVP (He did it for terrible Brazil team)
The hate on this guy is just insane!!!
All of a sudden CDM are important. Carvajal just had his best season with some highlight moments. Jude has the best stats for a CAM in his first year at 20 years old, Vini carried Madrid through the knockout rounds. So what did Rodri do besides defend and pass?
U said doing nothing but defending so defending is doing nothing facing quality striker is nothing u seem to have no knowledge about football
@@KaboMogotsi his duty is to defend… Vini duty or Bellingham isn’t to be scoring 20+ goals. Had Rodri had high assist as well being the focal point in his team which he’s not it’s been Haaland, KDB, Nico, Yamal, and Omel
Yes, Rodri had a good Euro tournament, but to say Spain won because of him, is absurd. Him on the field in the final, score was 0-0. It was without him they scored two goals in the final.
What we know for a fact is that a Madrid player will win this Balon D' Or. Vini, Carvajal, or Bellingham.
I don't know where the issue of Rodri coming from 💀
If Rodri didn't win it when City won the treble, then theres absolutely no reason for him... Vini Jr deserves this stop with all this nonsense
Based on your description Carvajal deserves more than Rodri. If Carvajal is not Real Madrid best player, Rodri is not city’s best player neither. City’s best players are Foden and KDB. People are doing everything to discredit Vini.
It sounds like you didn’t watch City last season
On top of that, Foden was awarded PL poty and because he sucked at the euros, no one talks about him. If England had won despite his performances in the euros, they would have said Foden deserved it over Bellingham. These channels want to see the Ballon dor return to England which hasn't happened since Cristiano Ronaldo won it.
Who tf is Gideon??
Only Rodri for Ballon D'or!
@@babyting395lol before the euros all yall were gassing up foden not rodri
The ballon d'or is for Vini no matter what. You can't look at 7 games at the Euro.
Just because club football is ran majority of the year doesnt negate the fact national football holds as much weight if not more
Rodri is White competing against 2 black guys. They will give it to Rodri.
@@weedwhacker4767 Dude say whatever you want but the ballon d'or is for Vini.
Lautaro Martinez should win it on merit based on individual and collective achievements. Vini, Rodri and or Carvahal don't even come close to Latutaro as per the award criteria.
Pure racism if Vini doesn't get the ballon D'or. It is not because he did not win Copa America, that's just an excuse. How can you put Vini in the same class with any of those you think will win it?
Carvajal scored in the CL final apart from all the titles he won, Shaka should take that into consideration.
Carvajal has to be ahead of Rodri for sure! There are some games Carvajal played as a CB and still won games!
I`m with Frank. I want also Carvajal. Otherwise this should be called forward ballon dor
Vini also lost just one game last season for Real Madrid
So we just gonna act as if Rodri and Man City didnt go crashing out the biggest tournament in club football?
Or we gonna put the prem title at the same pedestal as winning the UCL? Like seriously this Rodri conversation is as stupid as Jorginho winning it back in 2021
Loosing on penalties isn't exactly seen as 'crashing' out
Guys this Rodri agenda is bad. Rodri was knocked out of the Champions League and was knocked out of the FA final by Man United. Dani Carvajal scored 7 goals as a right-back: 4 in La Liga, 1 in the Champions League final, and 1 in the Supercoppa. He also scored in the Euros for Spain. He's won the Euros, Champions League, Supercoppa, and the League. How can you compare Rodri with Carvajal
They hate Vini for the same reason they hated Cristiano. They hate his passion, his stride, his confidence and willingness to do whatever it takes to win. They hate that he can “arrogantly” walk all over any team he wants because he’s THAT good.
He was always going to have to work twice as hard to get half the respect.
Let those who have eyes see, but we will be getting our Ballon D'or.
Hala Madrid! Y Nada Mas.
Spoken like a true narcissist…. Yeah its not cause he always act like a self centered arrogant person that only cares about himself. Same applies to Ronaldo. Look at modric everyone loves him and he is Way more succesfull than vini. All this does not change how good of players they are. If vini wins balon dor it Will be deserved and Ronaldo is easily one of the Best players of all time
Carvajal, Lautaro Martinez need to be winners too if you think Rodri deserves it over Vini
Stop this lying...Rodri wasn't even the best player for any of the two. PHILL FODEN was voted the best player in their league and we all saw that Lamine, Nico and Olmo were the ones carrying Spain. Rodri lost to Real Madrid and Man United in City's most important games of the season. Spain played better and even won the final with him off the pitch. Now remove Vini from both club and country and see that they don't go anywhere without him. He had 2 assists in the UCL vs Rodri's city, 2 Goals in the UCL semi's and a goal in the UCL final. Brazil's top goal scorer in the Copa and missed the knockout match that got them out of the competition through a yellow that was bogus. I can also make the same argument for Carvajal who was instrumental for both club and country. He scored the winning goal in the UCL final, scored in the Euro's and also scored crucial goals in the League. He won every single trophy available for him this season except for the Copa Del Rey. Stop lying to yourself just because you hate Real Madrid always having top genuine contenders for the Ballon d'Or. Give it a rest man it's embarrassing
Exactly if not Vini definitely a Real Madrid player i mean who pays these people
The Racism towards Vinicius 😬
Spain didnt need Rodri to win the Euro. Just yamal ,olmo and nico won the EURO
Rodri didnt olay UCl final and Spain played better in the final without him LOL
Vini jnr was owned by defenders in the ucl final like he was in 2022 and score a lucky goal. Vini jnr don’t dominate games like Rodri. Rodri is better with the ball at his feet over fictitious jnr
@@kevsilva5004 Gen Z brain rot in full affect LOL
I´ve been right on all ballon dor winners since 2005 except 2010 and 2013. I say Vinicius deserve this one - the only one who really tried for Brazil and turned up for Madrid in important games. Rodri a close 2nd place
Vini 100% must win it balloon dor
Vini is the perfect description of *"the only one who can stop you is yourself"*
Yes, if he didn't get himself suspended before the Uruguay game, this Ballon D'Or would already be his.
@@JarrettMehldauare you implying this Brazil could've won Copa América had Vini not been suspended?
@@tomasmaniago5832 Idk, I didn't watch Copa America aside from 3 min RUclips highlights, but I think they could have made the final. They only lost to Uruguay in the penalty shootout, didn't they?
@@JarrettMehldau He got suspended for behaving like the a,hole he is throughout the season.
@@tomasmaniago5832 copa america is a knockout competition largely. If you win 7 games on the trot hook or crook, you are a champion. It's a completely different topic when the quality of teams are high in these tournaments. Only Spain and Germany played well in this intl season. CL winner is little bit more battle tested and that's only cuz each round from R16 has home and away games. That being said, i will vote for Rodri myself. The most deserving of all is Carvajal imo but sadly he is not a forward. Reminds of those players who were robbed like Iniesta, Ribbery, Van Dijk and Lewandowski. Anyways these awards are faciliated by journalists, who are largely jokers misleading people to earn their salary. So never mind
Rodri wining the Balon D Or is just stupid. Shows how narrow minded this panel is. You people have amnesia
Let not act like vini was the through out season them get me wrong he had some good moments on the second half of the season but there was some time that Bellingham was carrying Madrid and b4 the champions league semi final was Kane and mbappe was leading the race too now everything base on the international tournament and vini mess up big time why everyone saying Rodri is because of consistency and how important he is for his team and the game he didn’t played he team lose whilst he is the best in his position
Bellingham deserves the Ballon D'or more than anyone
Freddie Adu was a good shout. The guy played for 15 different clubs spanning 17 years between 2004 and 2021, finishing at Österlen in the Swedish league and before that in the USL, the second tier of US football. Thats some falloff from Benfica and Monaco where he had very brief spells earlier in his career considering all the hype there was around him. I hope for his sake the USFA and his MLS club don’t ruin Cavan Sullivan before he’s even got going. He’s only 14 and being hugely hyped up. All he has right now is potential and hopefully he doesn’t get over played and burnt out too early. His body is still growing and he needs to be played sparingly. Don’t know if he’s any good tbh, but people have to bear in mind he’s playing in the MLS and not in a top European league. Theres a huge difference in quality.
I blame Messi and Ronaldo standards was to high now we debating viny and Bellingham stueps football gone true yes😢😢
Winning trophies alone should not be enough for the Balon d'or, it should be about the best player on the planet and Carvajal is far from that he ain't even the Best Right Back let alone overall player.
For the last question.. Yoann Gourcuff, Adel Taraabt, Steed Malbranque, Ansu Fati, Royston Drenthe..
Vini'Dor 🇧🇷🔥🏆
Vini BALON D'OR!
Vinicus will win ballondor
Someone with a brain 🧠
Rodri deserves to win it 100%. He has the longest unbeaten streak in history while playing for club and country. The best CDM in the world.
I wish he wins it but the fact that City rivals are even gunning for Rodri makes me sick ..They now wish Premier league gets a taste of Ballon d'Or even if it means kissing City's a$$
The longest unbeaten streak is from last season so part of it doesn't count he lost once this season vini lost twice whats the difference????
Lol That record was set over multiple years, He came back from injury and lost that streak this season did you forget?. Then got knocked out by the clown sqaud in FA cup, then vini knocked him out in the UCL. He started all those games
Vini games lost this season: 1
Rodri games lost this season: 2
Vini only lost three games for club and country the whole year and one game went to extra time while the other he got hurt
Won more trophies than Rodri and was player of the tournament in the UCL
Stupid espn, one Tournament and they forget what players did for the entire season. No wonder they handed balon dor to messi while he had a poor season with PSG
Carvajal is the right choice, the rest wasn’t good enough to win the Ballon’dor.
WHAT?!
What a joke..
Vini is the Winner 🏆
Rodri deserves it most since the best scorer, Kane, didnt win any titles, giving it to Jude or Vinni will be a farce just like not giving it to Lewa during the covid season.
The Italian lad, el sharrawry is a good shout from Maserati to caravan😂
Before going to international tournament Vini was favourite or only four five player are in the list who can actually displace vini if they had great tournament like Bellingham who himself didn't have good tournament, kroos who was great but his team lost quater final if only they won that match maybe they could have been the champion too but that didn't happen, 3 player was mbappe if he had great euro like winning it and won golden boot best player award at the tournament but any of those didn't happen so VIni still deserves ballon d'or Rodri was never in competition carvajal should finish higher than him and if anyhow they are giving it to rodri i would prefer it to give messi again or cancel it 😅
Where is did you get the name of Rodri on the list cause it was not there on the list from the beginning
Dele was a victim of child sexual abuse. It wasn't because he got the blues because he was injured. That sort of trauma is like a ticking time bomb.
He's a multi millionaire and had his mates film him potentially abusing women ..so don't feel over-sympathetic to him , his poor form came before his "mental issues"
Rodri is the best player in the world. He deserves the Ballon d'or ❤
Rodri was the best player for both club and country last season period!
Messi won it last year because of an international trophy even though he was a non factor at club level so clearly, international trophies are more important for BalonDor. If it was just about goals and club trophies, Haaland had everything in his debut season to win last year.
If the BalonDor is judged fairly and with consistent metrics, then Rodri is the clear winner!
Stop lying...Rodri wasn't even the best player for any of the two. PHILL FODEN was voted the best player in their league and we all saw that Lamine, Nico and Olmo were the ones carrying Spain. Rodri lost to Real Madrid and Man United in City's most important games of the season. Spain played better and even won the final with him off the pitch. Now remove Vini from both club and country and see that they don't go anywhere without him. He had 2 assists in the UCL vs Rodri's city, 2 Goals in the UCL semi's and a goal in the UCL final. Brazil's top goal scorer in the Copa and missed the knockout match that got them out of the competition through a yellow that was bogus. I can also make the same argument for Carvajal who was instrumental for both club and country. He scored the winning goal in the UCL final, scored in the Euro's and also scored crucial goals in the League. He won every single trophy available for him this season except for the Copa Del Rey. Stop lying to yourself just because you hate Real Madrid always having top genuine contenders for the Ballon d'Or. Give it a rest man it's embarrassing
“League Two player”, “overrated”, “will never win a Ballon Dor football fell off”, and yet despite being nowhere near his best and missed a chunk of games with injuries, Erling Haaland still scored 38 goals in all competitions and won his 2nd consecutive Golden Boot in the Premier League in his first 2 seasons. People will say “oh he’s playing with a bunch of creative players” and that’s a fair point, regardless even if his linkup play is poor and they have so many good players, he was still putting up the numbers and they still won the league.
He’s a victim of his own success because in his debut season at Manchester City, he was banging goals left right and center and breaking records for running all competitions, I mean he had 52 goals in 53 games, he broke the scoring record in the league, had the most goals out of any player in Europe’s top 5 leagues also the top scorer in the champions league he won the treble and was in the conversation for the Ballon Dor. It was never always going to be easy for Haaland to replicate his heroics in the 2022-23 season because yes he managed to drop off a little bit and at times he was inconsistent missed a lot of chances that he would usually be converting and there were a lot of big games where he made little to no impact on the team; as an elite striker, the reality is that he’s guaranteed to score goals and he is doing his job and puts the ball in the back of the net at a staggering rate. Next season is the same story for Haaland in front of goal.
Even last season when he came second in Ballon Dor voting, he wasn’t even the most impactful player on his team. I’m sorry but his big game track record isn’t impressive at all for a player of his caliber and unfortunately for him that’s what wins you these awards. Harry Kane is far more rounded player than he is and he’s not even going to win this season despite putting up monster numbers. Haaland will win a Ballon Dor when he shows the world he can get it done when the lights are the at their brightest.
Vin jr best player this season❤
Whether they hate vini jr or not vini jr will win the 2024 ballond'or
He fully deserved that award, and this is the year to win it.
It is highly recommended and a MUST for Real Madrid management, board of directors, coaching staff, people working in their club who are involved on the transfer-market to permanently sell who are currently out on loan to play for another football club, do not offer a loan with buy back clause or with a number or percentage rights, recall or return players that are currently on-loan by another football club to play for Real Madrid, ageing ((28) years old and above), inconsistent (due to limited playing time, never have played and always on the bench, poor defensively, not performing well) regardless of age, injury prone, those who are not comfortable playing in different position, that MUST happen on or before July 2027. We are referring to Modric, Vasquez, Daniel Carvajal Ramos "Dani Carvajal", Courtois, Alaba, Rudiger, Mendy, Daniel Ceballos Fernández "Dani Ceballos" Jesús Vallejo Lázaro "Jesus Vallejo", Francisco José García Torres "Fran Garcia", Diaz, Juan Miguel Latasa Fernández "Juanmi Latasa", Reinier Jesus Carvalho "Reinier", Nicolás "Nico" Paz Martínez, & Guler.
Confirmed leaving Real Madrid n as some will no longer renew, return to their respective football club that are being loaned out to Real Madrid and a few getting sold permanently with or without a buy back clause on or before September 2024: Rafael Marín Zamora "Rafa Marin", Kroos, José Ignacio Fernández Iglesias "Nacho", José Luis Mato Sanmartín "Joselu", and Arrizabalaga.
Once they get sold these are the players should be sign based on their positions on or before July 2027.
Right Back: Jesus Fortea, Malo Gusto
Left Back: Alphonso Davies, Joskol Gvardiol
Centre Back: William Saliba
Centre Defensive Midfielder: Rodrigo "Rodri" Cascante
Centre or Attacking Midfield: Florian Wirtz, Franco Mastantuono
Lastly Real Madrid must never offer a contract to these players for a RIGHT BACK position, that are inconsistent regardless of age, poor defensively, has disadvantage of height and strength (lacks muscles), proven already that unable to stop wingers/strikers in different leagues, injury-prone, has beyond 60 million euro's transfer-market value, and ageing 27 years old and above, and turning 27 years old and above on year 2027. We are referring to Darmian, Walker, Trippier, Di Lorenzo, Cancelo, Dumfries, Calabria, White, Mazraoui, Ryerson, Wan-Bissaka, Molina, Alexander-Arnold, Hakimi, Tomiyasu, Royal, Dalot, Porro, James, Boey, Frimpong, Couto, Livramento, Terracciano, Bradley, Sanchez, Lewis, Fresneda, Gray, & Lima.
Rodri all the way, the most important player for Spain and city and the absolute best in his position right now
See how hypocrites these ESPN Jounalists are 🤡
Carvajal scored the 1st goal for Madrid in the ucl final and was the man of the match
Those that condemn Vinicius are now jogging themselves. Vini Jr doesn’t need your love. He played what he could.
I think this is the only time that I’ve ever agreed with frank. Carvajal deserves it. Most people forget, or don’t even know, that Carvajal has STARTED and won 6 champions league finals. You don’t start 6 finals if you are not important. Dani makes crazy assists and starts crazy plays. Unfortunately like they said, right back ain’t sexy.
Like Shaka said, before the Euro and CA it was either Jude or Vini no matter what. Now all of a sudden Rodri? Its a whole joke. Trying to influence the winner with this Rodry hype train. Vinicius deserves it. He carried RM. Euro and CA are just few games, sure big tournament but cmon. You gotta be a Vini hater to switch from Jude and Vini to Rodri when he wasn't even mentioned before the Euro.
You gotta be a sycophant to ignore how much of an a,hole Vini is.
Balon d’or shouldn’t be about who has won the most (those are team trophies) but who has been the best individual player of the year… who has played the best football… People miss the point of this award…
Vini and Bellingham are more worthy of this season's Ballon d’Or than anybody else.
If Rodri desrves this award, than based on those same criteria Kroos deserves it more!
Rodri will win and its the right choice
The number of people downplaying Rodri is insane. He has the most trophies out of everyone and the most Player of the Tournaments out of everyone.
And he only has like 12 less G/A than Vini. (Hes a DM!!)
I love it when frank brought Dani carcaval in 😀
The agenda against Martinez is real. Nobody's talking about him because he plays with Messi.
No Agenda no nothing.. he is not the BEST footballer last year... who cares about tap ins goals in Seria A? Copa America he did good tho... I don't see anyone desereve it this year everyone was mediocre... from Billingham to Vini, to Kros, Rodri etc.. they are not a Ballon dor level players yet nobody showed that he deserve it.. the only one I can see is Vini maybe
Puttin Rodri before Vini, Belligham or even Carvajal is INSANE. In terms of contribution this has been one of his least decisive seasons. In UCL his bad performance against Madrid is one of the reasons ManCity didn't win it. Carvajal has has probably one of the best seasons of his career if not the best and has been decisive in the big games, and he won everything. Bellingham also won everything except for the final but he carried the best club in the world on his shoulders for half the season, while the other half it was Vinicius who carried it, both being literally the most exciting players on the planet right now. But Rodri plays in the EPL so these pundits would rather spout NONSENSE than say something objective and intelligent.
Rodri winning the Ballon D'or ahead of Vini would be my 13th reason man...
Vini Jnr thoroughly deserves the ballon dor
Shaka speaking absolute facts give Rodri his ballon dor
But when Messi was failing to win trophies with Argentina, I don't remember anyone saying he didn't deserve to win the Ballon d'Or
Vini deserves it over Rodri and Nacho deserves it over Carvajal.
Vin jr best player this season