love your videos. hesitate to respond, but being a little younger (39) it might be usefull. like in the west a while back, married life starts early. family pressures them a bit and children are hard to take care of. family will help so you can go off to work and just send some money home. in thai culture children must honor and take care of the people who gave them life, unlike in the west where you are supposed to take care of your children. (the ungratefull bastards ;) being new and know nothing of western men and not speaking english the first boyfriend(s) are thai. I found myself once in a bar with these thai men and learned of a concept, to wich i forget the name they gave it. each of them has 3 girlfriends. they explained that 1 might be busy with a customer, you might loste one and you need time to replace them. 4 apparently is too much because three might show up. the thing that was craziest to me, is that when one of these girls called, they went to pick them up and the girls would give them a little money. the idea being that it is easier to make money for a girl and a GOOD girl considers her boyfriend. Now back to the girls. hitting 30, speaking a little english and familiar with western man the girls start to consider relationships with western man. especially traditional speaking, man take care of woman. any children would be taken care of too and have an above average life. furthermore, western man are easy to please. if you find yourself with a thai steady girlfriend, she wil what we consider spoil you. rub your head or feet for no reason. getting you something nice to eat. i've met a bunch of girls 35 to 45 i would love to have as a gf, but they consider me too young. i might see another girl i like, i am way to active and after years of partying they want to slow down. and even the best efforts are useless, because these girls are way too smart for any of us. the romantice thing or seduction, at that point, no chance. for anyone, in my view, go 35+. can do 30, but, they might still be hussling. there is always a change for that but options are running out and most of these girl wil start to think of themselves and resent a little, those that live of them. Just listen to there lifestory. you want a girl that is ready. if they focus more on family than themselves, if they want to go dance twice a week, if they are eager to spend all day with you, (other girls) hold off. a serious girl will give you room and want you to be happy. so they will want to know what you like. anyone that doesn't inquire what you like, see it for what is is, a trade. anyway, hope it helps. for me, all the girls i think highly off are my age or older and ive been in pattaya 50 weeks or so. at last, i remember my grandfather say once that you should take a woman from her mother or take a woman that "worked" for a few years. I finally start to understand what he meant. cheers
@@dochi1958If you didn’t understand or comprehend what marinusvos is sharing with you, it may be because you’re too young and or inexperienced. I’m not trying to be offensive to you and I hope you don’t take my comment the wrong way. I think the gentleman was offering a valuable insight and perspective that may save you a bit of heartache, time, and money. The money can always be replaced but time or money, not !
@@aabikrman No offense taken! And I was being a bit facetious. Also I'm 65 & well traveled, including SE Asia. I kinda get a bit of what marinusvous was TRYING to say and not to be the grammar police, but you have to admit his syntax, and train of thought, etc. was a bit difficult to follow. But bless him and I thank him for sharing his story! And I thank you as well for replying! Best wishes to all of you!
@@dochi1958 i get what you are saying. but you can wright a book on the subject. to keep it contained, i had to keep it short, but you can not get around a few things. the place (area) you are, culture, age or point in life and a perspective on relationships from both sexes. I tried to lay out a basic life for an average thai girl moving to a place with farang men. the troubles, expectations, needs and purpose. this changes over time for everyone. forgive me my 'grammar', i am not native in english and perhaps i kept it too straight to the point to follow for someone just visiting once or twice. in my mind this was for people spending a lot of time in thailand and were considering a long time relationship with a thai woman. i am convinced they understand the outline. anyway, hate that you didn't get something out of it, hope others do.
When I was 63, I spent 11 days deep diving as a "sex tourist" in Pattaya, after 20 years of women rejecting me in Hawaii. I had the time of my life - a total sexual healing experience - so much love and joy shared twice a day with yet another beautiful young woman. They all gave me their all - I recommend this to all older single men.
Perfect example of the type of garbage tourist that should be eradicated, you couldn't have a women touch you in your own country, so you had to head to a poor country where you could pay them... what a winner you must be.
I've been with my partner for 24 yrs and have 3 daughters 23,18 and 15. The eldest is finishing university - Chemical Engeering - this year and I help the boyfriend of my youngest daughter and middle daughter girlfriend. Hello and thank you are the only words I speak in Thai. Everything you say is correct. I am 60 and my partner 46. Its been difficult at times but the life style living has always suited me. My partner is very traditional. She is caring and nurturing, brings me peace and respects me and always follows the decisions I make. Great video!
your last sentence is why I would go to Thailand femininity western fem-bot women want to be men . if I wanted to be with a man I become a homosexual , and I love it when a "trans" breaks a woman's sport record 🤣😂🤣 .
Well, it has is pros and cons. The early twenties gorgeous women in 🇹🇭 that will sleep with you when u are in your 50s have a beautiful body, but mostly a low IQ and next to no education😢 They are good to fuck, but hard to live with
I was 43 when I met my wife who was 18. We married 5 years later. Last month was out 25th anniversary. My best friend is a couple of years older than me and also has a Thai wife about 20 years younger and they've been married about 20 years.
I truly can't disagree with any of you comments in your video. Older man are indeed more stable and responsible and responsible. Im with a Thai lady who 56 and i am 60. Not here to snag a young girl. Very happy happy with my woman. I think it's a Mistake to bring the relationship back home, stay in Thailand. Love your videos!!! You have try adapted and taken on a Thai lifestyle. Cheers mate from a Canuck
Trevor: I particularly appreciated the way you presented the information. You had a great balance between visuals and spoken explanations, which made it easy for me to follow along. Your delivery was also very clear and easy to understand, which made the video even more enjoyable to watch. I just wanted to thank you for creating such great content and for sharing it with the world. Your videos are always a pleasure to watch and I look forward to seeing more from you in the future.
You are the best! Thank you for all you do. I am now an expat in Bangkok, coming to Pattaya when I can. Love your channel, it helps me a lot. Thank you for your honesty!
What some people forget is Personal Hygiene , Thailand is hot and 1 shower daily is not enough , the Thai girls have a very good sense of smell , so showering 2-3 times daily and smelling good is important , also fresh clean clothes , having your clothes cleaned at a laundry doesn`t cost a lot so make sure your clothes are clean as well
Laundry destroys your clothes fast. You see I dont like fking pssy out of shower, no taste or smell and Asians have weak scent start with. I cant get turned on
Let's face it we're doomed unless you go over there just for extended one night stands as they call it here in MERICA !!! And well this $$$$$ will buy pretty much anything anywhere !!!
Hi mate, I read a lot of the comments from your followers on this topic.I really find it Interesting peoples perceptions on your video. I think we have to put everything into perspective, this is their culture and country so treat everyone with respect. I find all your videos very informative and honest.
Been in patong almost 2 years and your pretty spot on. I've had a few relationships that didn't work out. Most don't care because they have 100s of guys wanting them in their DMs. They will end it as fast as you started the relationship and not even blink an eye.
Having spent my 2 weeks over there and come home, i find that im not watching your vids as much. This one auto played and i enjoyed it. I still really appreciate your info. I imagine i will come back and binge on your material when my next trip gets closer and I start daydreaming again. Thanks dude.
I think it's a fair call to say all girls under 25 don't like men over 50. The less fit ones will bonk for cash but I have been rejected by so many fit young women in my 40s. Over 25 or there abouts they are more open to us oldies but they still aren't attracted to us. I'm 52 and I know all my giks would never see me if I didn't offer my money. They want guys closer to their age for love, us oldies for money
This is pretty perceptive. IMHO it's best not to try to overcome negative reception by being too generous. If it's an unpleasant chore for them, find another. At some point we can no longer even offer a temporary BFE (boyfriend experience) to a lady with whom we want a GFE. The best we can offer is a good gik (sponsor) experience and hope for the same attentiveness we get from a massage shop lady. Take them out to their kind of food (ask where you can get good som tom poo), some light shopping. If you want to see them next trip, buy a little gold and bring back cosmetics they know from Facebook or a Coach clutch or bag (stateside outlet prices are very reasonable). Never fall in love, just "in like", never send money but be generous in person. Just respect them and be happy.
@@mdubb4855 I agree with most of that besides buying a gift to see them next trip. The only time a regular will drop you is if she moves on with a sponsor and that will happen gift or no gift. If you've seen them a few times and treated them nicely and paid your dues, they'll be there when you get back
@@graguitar6493 any strategies that have helped make it better? Over here customers treat restaurant workers poorly, I can't imagine how they would treat hostesses.
A dear friend of mine, now departed, was an elderly Danish nuclear physicist (had been a colleague of Neils Bohr. Some of the old timers might have known him). Although brilliant company with a fulfilling intellectual life and a great pool player (physicist!), he had become increasingly lonely. So, he spent his 70s, 80s and early 90s in Bangkok and Thailand with many young girls who were very good to him. 20 years ago, on a very noisy night in Sukhumvit Soi 8 a group of 20'ish English girls were sneering at him and his pretty, young girlfriend, calling him an old perv, etc. He calmly, in perfect English, stated: "Have a look at all the old guys in this bar, laughing with young girls. If they were at home in Europe, they would be sitting by the phone hoping for their children or anyone to ring. But here they can have company for reasonable money with a pretty girl who actually might care a little bit. And she is happy to have money, take care of friends and family, have a laugh and be safe." After about 30 years in Thailand, I am now in the old fart category and have never been seriously ripped off by a Thai girl (the odd drink, perhaps). Living can be so easy in this country if you are sensible and a bit selective. I have found most Thai girls, including all sorts of bar girls, to be mostly kind and fair. In fact, they are not really stereotypical prostitutes because they often become genuinely fond of you.
I met my Thai wife almost 5 years ago, she was a friend of a friend. I was 52 and she was 12 years younger. Only a couple of people have made negative comments, one said am I happy being took advantage of financially. I just replied that I am so happy that if I had a time machine I'd go back 10 years and meet her sooner. A female relative asked what is so great about Thai women besides sex. I said that's just the cherry on the cake, my Mrs takes care of me so well and appreciates me. There's very few 3rd wave feminists in Thailand thank god!
At 42, I've been going to Thailand/Philippines for a while now and you get the same old tired responses back home, let alone what they say behind your back. But it's fine, they can live their boring plantation life in the west while us passport bros live a life of adventure. There is a big cultural difference where the average Thai person is just much nicer and more approachable than any westerner I've ever met. Actually I like talking to my fellow travelers a lot too because we're of the same mind-set. If you're looking for a relationship, age really does matter less but you still have to bring something to the table obviously, like cash and character cause in the end everything in life is a transaction. Coming back in December, life is good!
Women and access to \!/ does not come free. It’s always a transactional relationship. Understanding this is the key. Find the one who you can communicate well with and share common mindsets and goals and all will be great as long as you’re paying your access fee.
@@alcoyne3333333333333 Depends of what you're looking for. I recently got back from Chiang-Mai in Thailand; for walks in nature and visiting temples it's great and the city has an OK bar scene but if you want to see a lot of ladies then I suppose you have to visit Pattaya at least once. For nice beaches the south of Thailand is better (Phuket/Ko Samui). You can find all these things in the Philippines as well (recommend Cebu/Palawan/Boracay). A big plus for the Philippines is that most people speak English very well and it's more of a (Spanish influenced) vibrant culture. You'll find more Americans over there, Europeans/Russians tend going to Thailand. Of course there's also Vietnam, Cambodja and Myanmar. All worth a visit imo.
I lived in Pattaya for 2 1/2 years, and I completely agree with you about speaking Thai, they don't seem to like it. Being in my 60's I just wore clean shirts, clean shorts and Asics shoes. Nothing fancy, but clean. One thing about Thai women, they really do watch us, especially if they get to know us in a non bar setting. I didn't chase after one woman when I was there, because I learned that if a Thai woman is interested in you, she will let you know, and you can take it from there if you chose to. But the ones who made it a point of talking about becoming bf/gf or husband/wife, all said basically the same thing. John I know you like beer, but I never see you drunk, and I never see you with different ladies. Then I would tell them I do have lady, just not many. I tell them I am normal man, and they would say, yes I think you are good man, then seriously want to talk about becoming bf/gf, these were women ages 23-55. I agree with you that many of them are looking for an improvement in their living condition and the stability of a relationship. You take care of them, they will take care of you. Good video, good info.
Hi Trev my wife and I meet a lovely Thai girl in 2015 had drinks a few laughs together watched some AFL football and that was that since then my wife passed away in 2018 . My nephews took me back to Phuket in 2019 this lovely Thai girl came up to me and said I know you and after a bit of chat we realized we did know each other from back in 2015 long story short she now lives with me in Australia and we were married back in July this year she is 47 and I’m 67 and it’s all good ,happy to share our story with you cheers Trev.
I just watched your whole video about depression. I've already watched a few of your shows. Your honesty about yourself made me subscribe suddenly I could identify with you
Always excellent content. I'm going on 2.5 months here, two of those in Pattaya. Met quite a few girls and heard their stories. One even showed me the blueprints, company, models and pricing for the house she's building for her, her younger brother and mother. Many of these girls do have a real plan and are doing what makes them the most money to get there. Like anywhere else, there are girls here, too, that are after your pockets just because they know they can and so many fellas making rain on them🤣
For 10 years I lived in Pattaya for 5 months a year. My steady was a professional lady who took pride in the fact that I could speak at least some Thai, could handle spicy food and was conscious about how I dressed. She also was OK with me going to my favorite bar on the 6. At the bar one day I told one of the working girls that I was not a butterfly I was a hellicopter, she replied "that's OK I will be your airport, damned near spilled my beer!!!
Hi Trev , i was married to a Thai lady for 25years , until she passed away in 2016 . Yes you are right , thai girls , the majority dont like the sun . Regards the language , i find alot of thais like you to speak some thai , but certainly dont like you being able to have a conversation , because that means you understand what they are talking about . I had a friend in bkk , who spoke very very good thai , but would always talk english to the thai girls , and when he had his fill at the bar or wherever would always say in thai what the girls where talking about on his way out , and the look on their faces said everything . Lol. Also having been married for 25 years i found that alot of thai women listen to what i call old wives tales , and believe it , but i suspect thats just down to education . And lastly , yes your right , my wife wanted to go back to the uk , for better oppurtunties , which happened , given the chance theses girls want to have a better life , and they are very good at re-educating themselves , i found that the marriages to farangs that failed and went back to the uk , most of the time , the husband didnt want them to work , basically stay at home cook and clean , didnt want his beautiful thai wife to be chatted up by other men , but i would say that most of the time the women are very very loyal , and its the man who messes up in 1 way or another . Anyway im in pattaya at the moment and having a great time , looking for the right 1 again , wish me luck 55555
A bar girl not only wants your money, she wants a way out of where she is. She doesn't think a young guy actually wants a committed relationship with a bar girl. An older guy might overlook her origins because he'd be so grateful to have a much younger woman. An older guy is not going to be all about sex in a relationship. She'd be able to be a more traditional wife with an older guy. He'd appreciate the other things she can do. If the older guy can get her out of there, then, after awhile, the old guy will probably find himself with the problem of having a younger wife with unsatisfied needs. I've met quite a few foreign women like that. Usually, when first talking about their husband, the first thing they say to me is, "He's so old." Good luck with that.
My confession: The Thai saying, "like a frog living in a coconut", describes well the world view of most Thai bar girls I've known. I talked numerous men out of marring bar girls in the 1980's (worked in Saudi then, first trip to Siam was in '82). In 1994 I was sent to live and work in Thailand by an international company... jumped right in and went against my own advise and eventually married a 19 year old bar girl... I was 41. Learned Thai by hiring a tutor, not a bar girl. Thai language helped me greatly when I was looking for action other than with my wife (in numerous other ways as well...lol). I could tell the girls what I wanted before we left where ever I met them... made things much much better in that department. One day in 2005 my 5 yr. old daughter and I boarded a plane to the USA. I was broke and the Thai wife was violent with our daughter...within 18 months the Thai wife found her way to Canada (with a Canadian) and then moved him down to the town next to where my daughter and I lived in the USA. I give her credit for that... but, she continued to be 'nuts'. Today she's 48 and manages two local jewelry stores (I had sent her to gemology school in Thailand) and she is estranged from our daughter due to her behavior. My daughter graduated University at age 20 and is now 23 and in New York City chasing her dreams... heading to graduate school in November. Like you, I knew a lot of bar girls, many have level heads on their shoulders; however, some number are damaged like my ex-wife... but, they are frogs living in a coconut... be wise... pay to play with them but DO NOT kid yourself... very few make life partners.
As an previous bar owner ( ao nang - butterfly bar ) i can say that these girls have an hard live , most come from isaan ( i have been there 3 times and its no fun out there ) and there parents are really poor most of the time ( and yes , i have met the parents of the girls that worked in my bar ) . Being back in Holland for a long time now ( about 20 years ) i have learned one big lesson : i consider myself lucky living in the western world where live is a lot easier .
In my opinion, if you make an effort to look dressed up and cleaned up, it is also to show the girls that you apreciate them for looking amazing. It is respectful.
Another great video with lots of great advice. I’m a 48 year old man from the uk and I have been to Pattaya twice, and planning to return in September. Keep up the good work 😅
I have been lucky enough to holiday in Pattaya 2 times 1 month at a time. 10 years ago and 5 years ago. Got to know some girls on nightclubs like Insomnia. When talking about tanned skin, most of them thought that milky white skin of Asian origin was for those with money and good jobs because they worked in offices etc. those with dark sunny skin were `poor', because they worked in the fields/low-paid outdoor jobs when you talk about what they thought of other people in Asia. Quite different from what we in Europe think of tanned skin. We think nice tan is healthy/have time to take a holiday. ;)
If you want to find love in Thailand don't look in bars and find a lady closer to your age . Being 54 now and finding a great life companion who's 49 4 years ago I can honestly say I haven't been happier . I couldn't think of anything worse than communicating 24 hours a day with a 20 0dd year old knowing that there with you for what they can get out the relationship .
Look your best given the environment, don't try to be somebody you're not, treat the ladies with respect, be personable, be realistic, be as generous as you're comfortable and capable of and the rest will fall into place. I've been ALL about the world, and these tenets apply around the globe. 😊
Another great vid Trev. I've been to Thailand 5 times, but will be in Pattaya for the first time in August. Looking forward to it and all the info you share will help ensure it is a good trip.
After living in thailand for a long time I have found that no matter how old/or young you are the girls are all looking for someone to take care of them and their family and the older guy is generally more financially stable than the young guys who are generally only there for a holiday.!!!
I am mid 40s however I wouldn't date Thai girls under 30s. Over 30 I find them still very beautiful but more mature and more confident which is what I value more than beauty.
I also take care to me. Getting older is stopped to drink Alkohol! Every day i am happy and i have a very good condition because i run often! Best wishes from Hans from Innsbruck in Austria!
Yeah mate it's amazing how you connect with them when you take care of yourself a bit, If they choose older, most ladies still want to get off a bit and have a good time.
Outside Bangers, Patters, Hua Hin and Phuket speaking some Thai is actually a big advantage. For instance, I would heavily recommend new arrivals learning the numbers up to a hundred along with polite expressions like 'sawatdi khap', 'kop kun khap' and 'sabai di'. (Also 'mai ao khap' is great for politely getting rid of pesky ambulant street hawkers). I've spent a lot of time in parts of Isaan (N-E of Thai), where you run into a lot of people with minimal English. (Having said this communication problems are far worse in countries like Nam when you get off the beaten track). I take your point, Trev, that bargirls tend to think you are Thai savvy, that you've travelled this land and that you know the ropes when you speak a bit of their language. For me this is mostly a positive thing as I don't like to be zoomed in on by the predatory ones. So OK then, let them think it.
Hi Trevor, I’ve lived in Thailand for several years, married to a Thai, and can speak some Thai but far from fluent. I live in central Thailand and occasionally when the wife has some business in Bangkok l’ll drop her off and spend 3-4 days in Pattaya, so I actually did a little experiment to find out if there was any difference in the night out. First 2 nights I didn’t speak any Thai and the next two night I spoke Thai. I found that I had much better nights when I spoke Thai, go figure! 🤔
My GF doesn't like me learning to speak Thai because I'm starting to understand her. She speaks 4 languages (English, Thai, khmer and lao,)and changes between them when talking to her friends
Speaking Thai has only ever worked out in my favor. But I'm also fluent, so it's easy to explain why I speak Thai and don't have a girlfriend. I've found the girls really open up, because most of them have never had a real conversation with a foreigner, because foreigners don't speak Thai, and the girls don't speak good enough English to have a meaningful conversation. Like you said, girls like to talk, and when they can talk in their own language, they really light up.
I find being an older man on a decent pension sure helps with financial security not having to worry where the next baht is coming from. Spend it while you are alive on hot attractive young ladies and enjoy the rest of your life, because I have reached the point in life where I realise I have fewer years left to live then I have already lived is my moto. I just love helping to contribute to the Pattaya social security system for single Thai mothers, and the odd african ones too
Very Neutrally put. But, full of honest personal input from past experience. They are doing a job for themselves plus perhaps family back in the village town. You, are on holiday for change of scenery and away from daily life routines n rushing around. Be Sensible/ Respectful/ Let your Hair Down /Laugh n Have Fun . For life’s short and certain joys never come back again easily.
I agree that all of that matters, but confidence (not cockiness) and a good attitude washes over a lot of first impressions. I'm a t-shirt/shorts/flops kind of person but I treat people well and I'm confident in myself, so it goes over well, when I'm in Thailand.
I've been holidaying in Pattaya since the mid 80s, lived in Thailand in the 70s for 2 years. Believe me Pattaya is all about BUSINESS, the Thai women are there to make money so they can support their families, only a Fool will look for and/or expect "love" from a working girl in Pattaya, Phuket or Bangkok.
I absolutely agree when it comes to the point of speaking Thai hindering your chances of getting close to a Thai girl that you meet. I was surprised the first time when I spoke a few Thai words to a Thai masseuse and got the question back if I had a Thai girlfriend, but when I thought about it myself the assumption they make is understandable. So yes, If I would not have a Thai girlfriend and meet any new Thai girl for social purposes, I would certainly not show the best of my Thai language skills.
I found this video both interesting and a little focused in one direction as opposed to something that could be of wider use... I will explain... 1. I think you list is perfect for a guy going to a bar, I think this is EXACTLY what a "bar" girl looks at... 2. I think girls interesting in Foreigners, Bule, Farang etc. take on many looks aside from the bar girl, but the bar girl may be the 1st thing a older foreign man meets (definitely the easiest to find)... that being said, I thing all girls outside of bar girls have a different list than what you provide, and many have a VERY short list. 3. I have been to Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, etc. but most of my experience (ex wife etc.) is from the Philippines... and I think a guy watching this video might be interested in a younger asian woman, and might want some other perspectives (of which there are plenty of comparison videos). Filipina bar girls might size up a prospect the same as what you describe the Thai's, but you can find a girl outside of the bar easy as from one of the many dating sites etc.... (do not think this will keep you away from the scammers... it does not take a bar girl to scam you... a quiet one with 2 kids can do the same!) 4. I like your idea here, I think it is a good idea to help other foreigners prepare themselves for what they might encounter, I hope my comment might give you a point or 2 that leads you to another video (I know I am not taking the time to make one... but appreciate you putting your face out there!)
Very thought provoking discussion. As someone who visits Pattaya once or twice a year for a couple weeks at a time, my views are perhaps a bit more jaded. As far as the dress code; I hang out in beer bars more than anything else. So, I dress accordingly; nice shorts tennis shoes and nice tee shirt, sometimes sleeveless shirt because of the heat. I do not speak any Thai and have no desire to, lol. I don’t shy away from a Thai girl who may not speak as much English, I use Google translate where I have to. I scale up the dress only as far as a nice button down print shirt on occasion. But that said, I never go out to a bar in flip-flops or a bathing suit; never go topless, ever! I get tanned because I stay at a hotel with a pool and come to Pattaya to relax. I’ve invited girls to my hotel pool and most generally like that offering, even if they can’t swim. I try not to get attached to any one girl; that limits vacation prospects. I have fun with the girls and will repeat with a girl I have fun with. That said, I would never consider bringing a Thai girl back to my home country. As they say, why “bitchinize” them at home! At my older age I do better with a 30 something bar girl than a 20 something go-go girl. If I were to consider living in Pattaya, I’m sure.my attitude and lifestyle would completely change. Just my two baht!
I'm tanned and what I notice is that I don't get approached by ping pong show strikers or the ladies as I walk down walking street, like a lot of men do.
I first came to thailand in 2016 and visit every 12 weeks and stay 1 month . In my experience there is a class thing in thailand village girls tend to go for an older guy because they think and older guy will look after her financially, its better than the alternative of working in a factory or bar . But if you go the trendy areas of bangkok where the high class thai girls are most of them have trendy thai boyfriends who have good jobs . They tend not to go for older foreign men they are more like European girls .
I just came back from Pattaya and what i really noticed during my 2 week stay is that the Thai woman arent nearly as we might call "desperate" as they use to be . Oh no having a beer gut and not taking care of yourself not dressing nice smelling nice etc... isnt gonna land you a (normal) girl anymore . Ofcourse you have the typical go go girls who dont care who they go home with but the vast majority of Thai girls the ones worth keeping in youre Line have high standards these days . And thats good for them and also for us eventually because it helps us being a better person aswell and not having expectations that are just un realistic in long term i mean i care much more about a woman that loves me because of who i am what i like and dont like and have similair things in common than a woman that just cares for me because i'm a male with a heartbeat from the "rich" west and thinks she can milk me dry .
As you care about women who love you or want you, why do you go to Pattaya where you are meeting hookers. They're not just women who only want you for your money. They don't want you at all. Just your money.
I’m 36 years old. I live in Bangkok for a year and my experience in the bar scene is this. It doesn’t matter how old you are, if you treat them good they will do the same to you, but most importantly, if you have money they will “love you”. The truth is Thai girls would prefer for you to be young but if you don’t have the money, they will definitely prefer an older man over you. If you want a girl to actually like you for who you are I suggest you don’t try to find her in a bar. Your best bet is for you to get away from Bangkok and Pattaya.
Agreed mate, regardless of age pull out a few notes and there will soon be girls about, its not the fact they prefer older but as Trevor said in general older are more financially secure, if we're going solely on attraction 90% are goinna prefer a guy aroujd their own age . Wouldn't say stay away from Bangkok though mate there are over 10 million people that live there, just if you want a loyal girl stay away from the bar scene. My girl is from Bangkok, a few months older and works 6 days a week in an office. Has never asked me for money.
I enjoy watching your vídeos and the conversations you have.. I'm not sure when I'll hit Thailand but thanks to these videos I know when I go I'll be prepared. My most concerns are about the women. I am sure there are very sweet and comfortable to be around with but I don't know other then that! But one day I would visit hopefully stay long term and find a great partner to enjoy my life.
Brilliant video Trev. I can't believe how cynical people are in the comments and their views on the girls.Wherever you are in the world you will end up paying for females one way or another.I love coming to Thailand love everything about it ! Like you said these girls work hard always smiling and happy .You imagine being one of them and trying to be happy 24/7 towards customers and people .I always show the girls and everybody respect .We all know the score with life .
I think it's all about being happy both ways, No matter what the girls intention or reasoning, if she will commit to you & you are happy, I really don't see a problem. On my trips to Pattaya, I have made no secret of having a girl friend etc. But that doesn't mean you're now ignored, the girls are so friendly & have a laugh no matter what situation. I agree the girls go to so much effort to look nice when they go out. In day time I'm not really bothered, but at night I dress reasonably. I won't go out at night with flip flips & shorts in Pattaya. Some do, but I don't. I don't wear suit, but shoes, chinoes or jeans, nice shirt etc.
@@jefflinton I will dress to go out at night properly no matter where I am. As far as couldn't care less about you, may be you should instead ask if you care for & respect them. I do so would not go out dressed like a tramp in some lame attemp at thinking I'm better. They deserve respect just as anyone else does & let's remember, not all Pattaya is bar girls. I have not paid once ever. If I go a restaurant, you get dressed up. Many places, you don't even get the choice. Dress respectfully or don't come in.
Age is not just a number. If a 19 year old girl finds me attractive it is because she is hustling me. Most of these women have young boyfriends and are draining the older foreigners of their cash. These hustlers are never honest with the foreigner who is 30 years older. I have seen so many guys refuse to believe they were getting conned.
Exactly . Learn Thai or isaan and sit in a bar, you will soon find out what they really think. Last thing they want is you to understand what is said around you when she whisks you off to the village to be the milking tirak for the family.
The girls like older men ? Like his money definitely. The girls in Pattaya think about one thing and it’s is how they can relive you of your money old or young and how they can mug you off for even more money .. Preventing that from happening while enjoying your holiday or your retirement is what you should be thinking about . Period
I am 60 but don't go out at night usually. My daytime is in beer bars and the occasional gents club. I still am surprised by the often 30 year or more age gap between the girl and the man- this I think is more down to money than anything else. I have always preferred an older woman so I look at those that look and speak well between 40-50. There are plenty out there and it is a more natural fit.
I just got back home to Australia last Saturday morning from Thailand. Three weeks in Pattaya was very quiet an experience for me than in Bangkok for three weeks. Songkran day in Pattaya was the best. I get to celebrate with all the hotel staff , music every where at walking street. Everyone having fun. It was great experience ❤🎉. Hope to be there again someday.😅
When I first met my Thai woman I explained I'm not a rich man , just a average man, only scammers are interested in your money, don't judge all Thai girls.
I break up a couple of years ago with my thai girl after 14 years. She's 18 years younger than me and maybe she come into some 40 years crisis. Anyway, not so fun of course. And still I have responsibility for our son and he's 13 years old today. I also have grown up children but they are selfgoing today. He is very good at school and have a lot of friends, play golf, pingpong and skiing and everything is going very well but anyway I must have power to support him. But as I say not so fun when your soon 60 being alone and I was think this is it, now I'm going to be alone. Yes I know I can meet a swedish woman in my own age but I don't want to have a cow way 30kg more than me. I probably can meet a younger beautiful girl in Thailand but then it's the whole process to bring here to Sweden and I did not have that power. But around 18 months ago I was at gym as I use to go every day and there was a woman I never seen before. Very good looking and we start to talk to each other. From South america but she speak fantastic swedish. We did not talk so much and most about training. Then we say goodbye and I took bicycle and went home. Day after same woman was there again and we say hello. This time we talk more about ourself and she was in same situation as me and have been divorced a couple of years ago. Same as me her second marriage. She's not from Stockholm but live i a city around 50 km from here and was visiting a friend lived near by gym. Anyway, when I was on my way going home I say to myself 'what you have to loose, ask her out for lunch'. I know very well I was not the youngest or the fittest guy in the gym and this woman was much younger than me and I could see how other men looked at her but what I have to loose. And she say yes so we went out for lunch and then I asked her if she also want to have dinner with me and she say yes and after dinner I drive her to a beaty saloon cos she was fixing her nails (yes I like girls dress elegant and sexy with high heals and good looking makeup). I called her when she was at train going home and say I had a great day and ask if she want to see me again and we decide we would meet day 2 days later. Drive to her city, pick her upp and we get back to Stockholm for dinner and then went home to me and watch a movie. Day after we meet again and was out on town all day and when I follow her to train she ask 'are we a couple now?'. And after that we together and everything is going well. She is fantastic with my son and as he start to learn spanish in school last summer now he have the best teacher at home so he speak english, thai, spanish and of course swedish today. I have good contact with my son's mother but when we speak is about the boy not so much more. I pay for the trips when she go to Thailand with our son and I also buy a car for her cos I know this benefit my son. I can't say I miss Thailand but I miss her family and the time we had together. But anyway, South america has a lot of fantastic places and countiries and I like her family. They are very religious but nothing new to me cos my thaigirl belived in Buddha as most thai. This summer we go to California and stay to school start after my son come home from Thailand so from no on it has been a lot of traveling for him but he like to see new places. She have a son 18 years old and a very nice young boy and soon he start to study in US. So after rain and darkness it's will always be sunshine even if you don't think so when your in deep shit.
I actually visited with one of the women there and asked her how it is that the oldest men get the youngest and hottest women as their girlfriend. She told me she has talked to quite a few of those girls and they said that their man can't get it up that often, so they don't have to put out that often. I will def. be taking viagra when I get older, because I hate drawing the short straw. Hope this helps answer your question.
Not a Thai veteran but think I’ve learned enough to comment. I do try to speak Thai when I can and TBH you have made me think about how that’s perceived. I always dress well, even when walking around LK Metro, but that is me all the time. I like to look good. I like to think that gets me noticed and not ignored. And as regards tan, I am abroad 6-months of the year (not always Thailand) so pretty much tanned all the time, just lesser and greater shades of tanned. Again, you’ve made me think.
Take the time to be well dressed, many of the thai in the bars and gogo will be impressed some will tell you and some won't but believe me you will be noticed and like very much. Thailand is a fashion hotspot, watch how much conversation talk it add to your bar experience. i dress very smart and every girl in bars make the thai saying loh maak = dress well or look handsome. the security guards for the clubs also give a 👍 up. Pattaya is for fun so dress up for fun.
In regards to having a sun tan being a negative thing via Thai women, it’s not a good indicator at all. There are many warm weather states in the U.S., and lots of those are tan year round.
Hi Trev, interesting post today and I have to agree with most of your points. In regard to us that speak Thai though I haven't found this a problem in fact it can sometimes work in your favour. A lot of new girls in the entertainment scene cannot speak English and you can see their awkwardness when sitting with a farang, on top of that a lot of guys just find it too much hard work and move on. Sitting with a Thai-speaking farang builds confidence but mainly gives them more of a chance to be on a par with the other girls. In my opinion, the lack of liking us Thai-speaking farangs is it limits their ability to speak freely among themselves. I love sitting at the bar listening to them and watching their expressions change the minute you start talking to them. Overall mate I have found whether you are married or not they don't care business is business!!
My wife only dated older foreigners and no, though I don't judge, she didnt work in a bar. University educated with a career she just personally finds them more attractive provided they take care of themselves with working out etc. and older men tend to be in a better position to bring something to the table economically. And how is that different than what Western Women want. Someone who is able to take care of them. The difference is Western Women bring their liberal attitudes and place to high a value on their own situations. There's a reason so many men are moving to SEA Countries like Thailand to find a woman who still acts like a woman.
They are NOT attracted to old guys, it defies human nature. Dress it up as you want, more stable etc. Yes, older men are a safer option but thats NOT attraction. End of chat.
@onetwothree12374 LOL..defies human nature? so “they” appointed you their spokesperson? What qualifies you to speak for ALL of them? You seem to be talking out of the wrong hole.
@@JonH-tc9nrI dont need anyone to appoint me to voice the basics of human instinct! In layman's terms, no fit young attractive 21-30yr old wants to be kissing or shagging an old fat bald foreigner she has nothing in common with by choice. Does it happen, of course. Are they prepared to do it, of course. But let's not pretend its anything other than a mutually beneficial agreement rather than lusty romance and love!!! Come on brother, it's fine, im not knocking it but let's read the script!
Walking atm for everybody and a passport for a better life to her family too. After this,it comes down to some others factors but nothing is escaping the premise.
I find with my thai language skills.....I use it when I'm out traveling ( buying fuel, booking rooms etc) , I never speak thai in the bars anywhere but listening to the girls talking thai to each other can be quiet interesting and sometimes quiet helpful
love your videos. hesitate to respond, but being a little younger (39) it might be usefull.
like in the west a while back, married life starts early. family pressures them a bit and children are hard to take care of. family will help so you can go off to work and just send some money home. in thai culture children must honor and take care of the people who gave them life, unlike in the west where you are supposed to take care of your children. (the ungratefull bastards ;)
being new and know nothing of western men and not speaking english the first boyfriend(s) are thai. I found myself once in a bar with these thai men and learned of a concept, to wich i forget the name they gave it.
each of them has 3 girlfriends. they explained that 1 might be busy with a customer, you might loste one and you need time to replace them. 4 apparently is too much because three might show up. the thing that was craziest to me, is that when one of these girls called, they went to pick them up and the girls would give them a little money. the idea being that it is easier to make money for a girl and a GOOD girl considers her boyfriend.
Now back to the girls. hitting 30, speaking a little english and familiar with western man the girls start to consider relationships with western man. especially traditional speaking, man take care of woman. any children would be taken care of too and have an above average life. furthermore, western man are easy to please. if you find yourself with a thai steady girlfriend, she wil what we consider spoil you. rub your head or feet for no reason. getting you something nice to eat.
i've met a bunch of girls 35 to 45 i would love to have as a gf, but they consider me too young. i might see another girl i like, i am way to active and after years of partying they want to slow down. and even the best efforts are useless, because these girls are way too smart for any of us. the romantice thing or seduction, at that point, no chance.
for anyone, in my view, go 35+. can do 30, but, they might still be hussling. there is always a change for that but options are running out and most of these girl wil start to think of themselves and resent a little, those that live of them.
Just listen to there lifestory. you want a girl that is ready. if they focus more on family than themselves, if they want to go dance twice a week, if they are eager to spend all day with you, (other girls) hold off.
a serious girl will give you room and want you to be happy. so they will want to know what you like. anyone that doesn't inquire what you like, see it for what is is, a trade.
anyway, hope it helps. for me, all the girls i think highly off are my age or older and ive been in pattaya 50 weeks or so. at last, i remember my grandfather say once that you should take a woman from her mother or take a woman that "worked" for a few years. I finally start to understand what he meant.
cheers
What a brilliant comment mate loved reading your thoughts and perspective and great thought process. Nailed that mate
@@Buzzinpattaya I'm impressed that you could make any sense of that!
@@dochi1958If you didn’t understand or comprehend what marinusvos is sharing with you, it may be because you’re too young and or inexperienced. I’m not trying to be offensive to you and I hope you don’t take my comment the wrong way. I think the gentleman was offering a valuable insight and perspective that may save you a bit of heartache, time, and money. The money can always be replaced but time or money, not !
@@aabikrman No offense taken! And I was being a bit facetious. Also I'm 65 & well traveled, including SE Asia. I kinda get a bit of what marinusvous was TRYING to say and not to be the grammar police, but you have to admit his syntax, and train of thought, etc. was a bit difficult to follow. But bless him and I thank him for sharing his story! And I thank you as well for replying! Best wishes to all of you!
@@dochi1958 i get what you are saying. but you can wright a book on the subject. to keep it contained, i had to keep it short, but you can not get around a few things.
the place (area) you are, culture, age or point in life and a perspective on relationships from both sexes.
I tried to lay out a basic life for an average thai girl moving to a place with farang men. the troubles, expectations, needs and purpose. this changes over time for everyone.
forgive me my 'grammar', i am not native in english and perhaps i kept it too straight to the point to follow for someone just visiting once or twice. in my mind this was for people spending a lot of time in thailand and were considering a long time relationship with a thai woman. i am convinced they understand the outline. anyway, hate that you didn't get something out of it, hope others do.
When I was 63, I spent 11 days deep diving as a "sex tourist" in Pattaya, after 20 years of women rejecting me in Hawaii. I had the time of my life - a total sexual healing experience - so much love and joy shared twice a day with yet another beautiful young woman. They all gave me their all - I recommend this to all older single men.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
Perfect example of the type of garbage tourist that should be eradicated, you couldn't have a women touch you in your own country, so you had to head to a poor country where you could pay them... what a winner you must be.
I've been with my partner for 24 yrs and have 3 daughters 23,18 and 15. The eldest is finishing university - Chemical Engeering - this year and I help the boyfriend of my youngest daughter and middle daughter girlfriend. Hello and thank you are the only words I speak in Thai. Everything you say is correct. I am 60 and my partner 46. Its been difficult at times but the life style living has always suited me. My partner is very traditional. She is caring and nurturing, brings me peace and respects me and always follows the decisions I make. Great video!
Thanks mate and thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated. Chemical engineering wow fair play to that mate
your last sentence is why I would go to Thailand
femininity
western fem-bot women want to be men . if I wanted to be with a man I become a homosexual , and I love it when a "trans" breaks a woman's sport record 🤣😂🤣 .
No better feeling than having a early twenties gorgeous woman ... 40s 50s guys in Thailand... just loving it.. only live once ❤
Indeed mate
Well then, u shoulda had a daughter🤣🤣🤣
Well, it has is pros and cons. The early twenties gorgeous women in 🇹🇭 that will sleep with you when u are in your 50s have a beautiful body, but mostly a low IQ and next to no education😢 They are good to fuck, but hard to live with
Exactly 🤣🤣@@libertarian_DE
@@getback3554it feels too good bruh 😂😂
I was 43 when I met my wife who was 18. We married 5 years later. Last month was out 25th anniversary. My best friend is a couple of years older than me and also has a Thai wife about 20 years younger and they've been married about 20 years.
Wow
I truly can't disagree with any of you comments in your video. Older man are indeed more stable and responsible and responsible. Im with a Thai lady who 56 and i am 60. Not here to snag a young girl.
Very happy happy with my woman. I think it's a Mistake to bring the relationship back home, stay in Thailand. Love your videos!!! You have try adapted and taken on a Thai lifestyle.
Cheers mate from a Canuck
Cheers mate
Trevor: I particularly appreciated the way you presented the information. You had a great balance between visuals and spoken explanations, which made it easy for me to follow along. Your delivery was also very clear and easy to understand, which made the video even more enjoyable to watch. I just wanted to thank you for creating such great content and for sharing it with the world. Your videos are always a pleasure to watch and I look forward to seeing more from you in the future.
Thanks mate much appreciated
You are the best! Thank you for all you do. I am now an expat in Bangkok, coming to Pattaya when I can. Love your channel, it helps me a lot. Thank you for your honesty!
Cheers mate much appreciated
What some people forget is Personal Hygiene , Thailand is hot and 1 shower daily is not enough , the Thai girls have a very good sense of smell , so showering 2-3 times daily and smelling good is important , also fresh clean clothes , having your clothes cleaned at a laundry doesn`t cost a lot so make sure your clothes are clean as well
Cheers mate
That's 100%.
Laundry destroys your clothes fast.
You see I dont like fking pssy out of shower, no taste or smell and Asians have weak scent start with. I cant get turned on
Trevor, you're the best, mate. This vlog gives us old guys hope
All good mate no worries
Let's face it we're doomed unless you go over there just for extended one night stands as they call it here in MERICA !!! And well this $$$$$ will buy pretty much anything anywhere !!!
Hi mate, I read a lot of the comments from your followers on this topic.I really find it Interesting peoples perceptions on your video. I think we have to put everything into perspective, this is their culture and country so treat everyone with respect. I find all your videos very informative and honest.
Thanks mate much appreciated and yeah as you said it's Thailand!
Been in patong almost 2 years and your pretty spot on. I've had a few relationships that didn't work out. Most don't care because they have 100s of guys wanting them in their DMs. They will end it as fast as you started the relationship and not even blink an eye.
Sad but true mate, does make me laugh how quick they are to jump ship
Having spent my 2 weeks over there and come home, i find that im not watching your vids as much. This one auto played and i enjoyed it. I still really appreciate your info. I imagine i will come back and binge on your material when my next trip gets closer and I start daydreaming again. Thanks dude.
No worries mate hope you had a great time
I think it's a fair call to say all girls under 25 don't like men over 50. The less fit ones will bonk for cash but I have been rejected by so many fit young women in my 40s. Over 25 or there abouts they are more open to us oldies but they still aren't attracted to us. I'm 52 and I know all my giks would never see me if I didn't offer my money. They want guys closer to their age for love, us oldies for money
Gotcha mate
This is pretty perceptive. IMHO it's best not to try to overcome negative reception by being too generous. If it's an unpleasant chore for them, find another. At some point we can no longer even offer a temporary BFE (boyfriend experience) to a lady with whom we want a GFE. The best we can offer is a good gik (sponsor) experience and hope for the same attentiveness we get from a massage shop lady. Take them out to their kind of food (ask where you can get good som tom poo), some light shopping. If you want to see them next trip, buy a little gold and bring back cosmetics they know from Facebook or a Coach clutch or bag (stateside outlet prices are very reasonable). Never fall in love, just "in like", never send money but be generous in person. Just respect them and be happy.
@@mdubb4855 I agree with most of that besides buying a gift to see them next trip. The only time a regular will drop you is if she moves on with a sponsor and that will happen gift or no gift. If you've seen them a few times and treated them nicely and paid your dues, they'll be there when you get back
@@graguitar6493 any strategies that have helped make it better? Over here customers treat restaurant workers poorly, I can't imagine how they would treat hostesses.
@@mdubb4855 sorry in what regards better?
A dear friend of mine, now departed, was an elderly Danish nuclear physicist (had been a colleague of Neils Bohr. Some of the old timers might have known him). Although brilliant company with a fulfilling intellectual life and a great pool player (physicist!), he had become increasingly lonely. So, he spent his 70s, 80s and early 90s in Bangkok and Thailand with many young girls who were very good to him.
20 years ago, on a very noisy night in Sukhumvit Soi 8 a group of 20'ish English girls were sneering at him and his pretty, young girlfriend, calling him an old perv, etc. He calmly, in perfect English, stated: "Have a look at all the old guys in this bar, laughing with young girls. If they were at home in Europe, they would be sitting by the phone hoping for their children or anyone to ring. But here they can have company for reasonable money with a pretty girl who actually might care a little bit. And she is happy to have money, take care of friends and family, have a laugh and be safe."
After about 30 years in Thailand, I am now in the old fart category and have never been seriously ripped off by a Thai girl (the odd drink, perhaps). Living can be so easy in this country if you are sensible and a bit selective. I have found most Thai girls, including all sorts of bar girls, to be mostly kind and fair. In fact, they are not really stereotypical prostitutes because they often become genuinely fond of you.
Thanks mate much appreciated
I met my Thai wife almost 5 years ago, she was a friend of a friend. I was 52 and she was 12 years younger. Only a couple of people have made negative comments, one said am I happy being took advantage of financially. I just replied that I am so happy that if I had a time machine I'd go back 10 years and meet her sooner. A female relative asked what is so great about Thai women besides sex. I said that's just the cherry on the cake, my Mrs takes care of me so well and appreciates me. There's very few 3rd wave feminists in Thailand thank god!
Fair one mate
I think that age is ok,it’s when ur old enough to be the dad that’s when I think it’s a line lads
@@pattaya911 Sometimes old enough to be their Grandad! Yuk
At 42, I've been going to Thailand/Philippines for a while now and you get the same old tired responses back home, let alone what they say behind your back. But it's fine, they can live their boring plantation life in the west while us passport bros live a life of adventure. There is a big cultural difference where the average Thai person is just much nicer and more approachable than any westerner I've ever met. Actually I like talking to my fellow travelers a lot too because we're of the same mind-set. If you're looking for a relationship, age really does matter less but you still have to bring something to the table obviously, like cash and character cause in the end everything in life is a transaction. Coming back in December, life is good!
Thanks for sharing your experience
Women and access to \!/ does not come free. It’s always a transactional relationship. Understanding this is the key. Find the one who you can communicate well with and share common mindsets and goals and all will be great as long as you’re paying your access fee.
@Timothy Drake . I. 52 thinking of going to either Philippines ot Thailand for the first time. Which would you recommend please.
@@alcoyne3333333333333 Depends of what you're looking for. I recently got back from Chiang-Mai in Thailand; for walks in nature and visiting temples it's great and the city has an OK bar scene but if you want to see a lot of ladies then I suppose you have to visit Pattaya at least once. For nice beaches the south of Thailand is better (Phuket/Ko Samui). You can find all these things in the Philippines as well (recommend Cebu/Palawan/Boracay). A big plus for the Philippines is that most people speak English very well and it's more of a (Spanish influenced) vibrant culture. You'll find more Americans over there, Europeans/Russians tend going to Thailand. Of course there's also Vietnam, Cambodja and Myanmar. All worth a visit imo.
I lived in Pattaya for 2 1/2 years, and I completely agree with you about speaking Thai, they don't seem to like it. Being in my 60's I just wore clean shirts, clean shorts and Asics shoes. Nothing fancy, but clean. One thing about Thai women, they really do watch us, especially if they get to know us in a non bar setting. I didn't chase after one woman when I was there, because I learned that if a Thai woman is interested in you, she will let you know, and you can take it from there if you chose to. But the ones who made it a point of talking about becoming bf/gf or husband/wife, all said basically the same thing. John I know you like beer, but I never see you drunk, and I never see you with different ladies. Then I would tell them I do have lady, just not many. I tell them I am normal man, and they would say, yes I think you are good man, then seriously want to talk about becoming bf/gf, these were women ages 23-55. I agree with you that many of them are looking for an improvement in their living condition and the stability of a relationship. You take care of them, they will take care of you. Good video, good info.
Nice one mate thanks for sharing your experience with us.
Hi Trev my wife and I meet a lovely Thai girl in 2015 had drinks a few laughs together watched some AFL football and that was that since then my wife passed away in 2018 . My nephews took me back to Phuket in 2019 this lovely Thai girl came up to me and said I know you and after a bit of chat we realized we did know each other from back in 2015 long story short she now lives with me in Australia and we were married back in July this year she is 47 and I’m 67 and it’s all good ,happy to share our story with you cheers Trev.
Fair play mate and glad you have your life balanced and enjoying it, respect mate
I just watched your whole video about depression. I've already watched a few of your shows. Your honesty about yourself made me subscribe suddenly I could identify with you
Thank you
You don’t know how helpful your words are.
Thank you sir.
Cheers mate much appreciated
Always excellent content. I'm going on 2.5 months here, two of those in Pattaya. Met quite a few girls and heard their stories. One even showed me the blueprints, company, models and pricing for the house she's building for her, her younger brother and mother. Many of these girls do have a real plan and are doing what makes them the most money to get there. Like anywhere else, there are girls here, too, that are after your pockets just because they know they can and so many fellas making rain on them🤣
Cheers mate much appreciated
For 10 years I lived in Pattaya for 5 months a year. My steady was a professional lady who took pride in the fact that I could speak at least some Thai, could handle spicy food and was conscious about how I dressed. She also was OK with me going to my favorite bar on the 6. At the bar one day I told one of the working girls that I was not a butterfly I was a hellicopter, she replied "that's OK I will be your airport, damned near spilled my beer!!!
Thanks for sharing your experience with us
😂😂😂I would
It would sound better if she said: it’s ok, I will be your landing pad.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant response!
Hi Trev , i was married to a Thai lady for 25years , until she passed away in 2016 . Yes you are right , thai girls , the majority dont like the sun .
Regards the language , i find alot of thais like you to speak some thai , but certainly dont like you being able to have a conversation , because that means you understand what they are talking about . I had a friend in bkk , who spoke very very good thai , but would always talk english to the thai girls , and when he had his fill at the bar or wherever would always say in thai what the girls where talking about on his way out , and the look on their faces said everything . Lol. Also having been married for 25 years i found that alot of thai women listen to what i call old wives tales , and believe it , but i suspect thats just down to education . And lastly , yes your right , my wife wanted to go back to the uk , for better oppurtunties , which happened , given the chance theses girls want to have a better life , and they are very good at re-educating themselves , i found that the marriages to farangs that failed and went back to the uk , most of the time , the husband didnt want them to work , basically stay at home cook and clean , didnt want his beautiful thai wife to be chatted up by other men , but i would say that most of the time the women are very very loyal , and its the man who messes up in 1 way or another . Anyway im in pattaya at the moment and having a great time , looking for the right 1 again , wish me luck 55555
Sorry for your loss, Peter 🙏. +1
Thanks for sharing mate and sorry for your loss mate
You are good man and will find the right one, no worries 😉
@@getback3554 thankyou
Sincere condolences to you, I hope you find happiness again. All the best.
A bar girl not only wants your money, she wants a way out of where she is. She doesn't think a young guy actually wants a committed relationship with a bar girl. An older guy might overlook her origins because he'd be so grateful to have a much younger woman. An older guy is not going to be all about sex in a relationship. She'd be able to be a more traditional wife with an older guy. He'd appreciate the other things she can do. If the older guy can get her out of there, then, after awhile, the old guy will probably find himself with the problem of having a younger wife with unsatisfied needs. I've met quite a few foreign women like that. Usually, when first talking about their husband, the first thing they say to me is, "He's so old." Good luck with that.
Gotcha
My confession:
The Thai saying, "like a frog living in a coconut", describes well the world view of most Thai bar girls I've known.
I talked numerous men out of marring bar girls in the 1980's (worked in Saudi then, first trip to Siam was in '82).
In 1994 I was sent to live and work in Thailand by an international company... jumped right in and went against my own advise and eventually married a 19 year old bar girl... I was 41.
Learned Thai by hiring a tutor, not a bar girl. Thai language helped me greatly when I was looking for action other than with my wife (in numerous other ways as well...lol). I could tell the girls what I wanted before we left where ever I met them... made things much much better in that department.
One day in 2005 my 5 yr. old daughter and I boarded a plane to the USA. I was broke and the Thai wife was violent with our daughter...within 18 months the Thai wife found her way to Canada (with a Canadian) and then moved him down to the town next to where my daughter and I lived in the USA. I give her credit for that... but, she continued to be 'nuts'. Today she's 48 and manages two local jewelry stores (I had sent her to gemology school in Thailand) and she is estranged from our daughter due to her behavior.
My daughter graduated University at age 20 and is now 23 and in New York City chasing her dreams... heading to graduate school in November.
Like you, I knew a lot of bar girls, many have level heads on their shoulders; however, some number are damaged like my ex-wife... but, they are frogs living in a coconut... be wise... pay to play with them but DO NOT kid yourself... very few make life partners.
Frogs in coconuts lol love that
Very wise.
Jeez I would have got shut sooner Bitch😬
As an previous bar owner ( ao nang - butterfly bar ) i can say that these girls have an hard live , most come from isaan ( i have been there 3 times and its no fun out there ) and there parents are really poor most of the time ( and yes , i have met the parents of the girls that worked in my bar ) . Being back in Holland for a long time now ( about 20 years ) i have learned one big lesson : i consider myself lucky living in the western world where live is a lot easier .
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate
In my opinion, if you make an effort to look dressed up and cleaned up, it is also to show the girls that you apreciate them for looking amazing. It is respectful.
Gotcha mate
Another great video with lots of great advice. I’m a 48 year old man from the uk and I have been to Pattaya twice, and planning to return in September. Keep up the good work 😅
Cheers mate much appreciated
great content trev appreciate the videos, youre fostering a great community not only for pattaya but for mens health wellness and wisdom
Thanks mate
I have been lucky enough to holiday in Pattaya 2 times 1 month at a time. 10 years ago and 5 years ago. Got to know some girls on nightclubs like Insomnia. When talking about tanned skin, most of them thought that milky white skin of Asian origin was for those with money and good jobs because they worked in offices etc. those with dark sunny skin were `poor', because they worked in the fields/low-paid outdoor jobs when you talk about what they thought of other people in Asia. Quite different from what we in Europe think of tanned skin. We think nice tan is healthy/have time to take a holiday. ;)
yep spot on mate as I said....
If you want to find love in Thailand don't look in bars and find a lady closer to your age . Being 54 now and finding a great life companion who's 49 4 years ago I can honestly say I haven't been happier . I couldn't think of anything worse than communicating 24 hours a day with a 20 0dd year old knowing that there with you for what they can get out the relationship .
Nice one mate all the best
Look your best given the environment, don't try to be somebody you're not, treat the ladies with respect, be personable, be realistic, be as generous as you're comfortable and capable of and the rest will fall into place. I've been ALL about the world, and these tenets apply around the globe. 😊
Well said mate
Sage advice, Trev! Much thanks for giving your expertice and opinion on what can sometimes be considered a very "touchy" subject!
Thanks mate much appreciated
Another great vid Trev. I've been to Thailand 5 times, but will be in Pattaya for the first time in August. Looking forward to it and all the info you share will help ensure it is a good trip.
Cheers mate much appreciated
After living in thailand for a long time I have found that no matter how old/or young you are the girls are all looking for someone to take care of them and their family and the older guy is generally more financially stable than the young guys who are generally only there for a holiday.!!!
Absolutely how you said it mate
old guys pay ,young guys play 😄
I am mid 40s however I wouldn't date Thai girls under 30s. Over 30 I find them still very beautiful but more mature and more confident which is what I value more than beauty.
Gotcha mate
I'm 50 and having no trouble dating mostly 30 and up. I do take care of myself and like to think I look younger than my age
I also take care to me.
Getting older is stopped to drink Alkohol!
Every day i am happy and i have a very good condition because i run often!
Best wishes from Hans from Innsbruck in Austria!
Nice one mate
U sound so full of yourself, probably to cover up ugly 😂
Yeah mate it's amazing how you connect with them when you take care of yourself a bit,
If they choose older, most ladies still want to get off a bit and have a good time.
Excellent topic. Young and old should watch. Better understanding of Pattaya. Thanks enjoyed.
Cheers mate
Always nice to hear your good information. Nice and pleasant to hear you talk and explain everything. Keep up doing the good job
Cheers mate much appreciated
Outside Bangers, Patters, Hua Hin and Phuket speaking some Thai is actually a big advantage. For instance, I would heavily recommend new arrivals learning the numbers up to a hundred along with polite expressions like 'sawatdi khap', 'kop kun khap' and 'sabai di'. (Also 'mai ao khap' is great for politely getting rid of pesky ambulant street hawkers). I've spent a lot of time in parts of Isaan (N-E of Thai), where you run into a lot of people with minimal English. (Having said this communication problems are far worse in countries like Nam when you get off the beaten track).
I take your point, Trev, that bargirls tend to think you are Thai savvy, that you've travelled this land and that you know the ropes when you speak a bit of their language. For me this is mostly a positive thing as I don't like to be zoomed in on by the predatory ones. So OK then, let them think it.
Gotcha
Hi Trevor, I’ve lived in Thailand for several years, married to a Thai, and can speak some Thai but far from fluent. I live in central Thailand and occasionally when the wife has some business in Bangkok l’ll drop her off and spend 3-4 days in Pattaya, so I actually did a little experiment to find out if there was any difference in the night out. First 2 nights I didn’t speak any Thai and the next two night I spoke Thai. I found that I had much better nights when I spoke Thai, go figure! 🤔
Wow thanks for sharing
Same
My GF doesn't like me learning to speak Thai because I'm starting to understand her.
She speaks 4 languages (English, Thai, khmer and lao,)and changes between them when talking to her friends
Yeah they often swap about. Older Thai people speak a language I have no idea about
Top tips thank never been abroad in my life. Watching your videos has changed my mind
Welcome mate
Finally somebody who makes sense with your honesty.. well done mate.
Welcome mate
Speaking Thai has only ever worked out in my favor. But I'm also fluent, so it's easy to explain why I speak Thai and don't have a girlfriend. I've found the girls really open up, because most of them have never had a real conversation with a foreigner, because foreigners don't speak Thai, and the girls don't speak good enough English to have a meaningful conversation. Like you said, girls like to talk, and when they can talk in their own language, they really light up.
Nice one mate cheers
They don’t want you to talk Thai because then they can’t plot with friends around you lol.
Haha
Yeah bar girls don't. It puts them off!!
I find being an older man on a decent pension sure helps with financial security not having to worry where the next baht is coming from. Spend it while you are alive on hot attractive young ladies and enjoy the rest of your life, because I have reached the point in life where I realise I have fewer years left to live then I have already lived is my moto. I just love helping to contribute to the Pattaya social security system for single Thai mothers, and the odd african ones too
Yeah for sure
Great info on this video, thank You for sharing❤
Cheers mate
Thanks Trev, another great video! Always entertaining and informative.
Cheers mate
Great video. Absolutely bang on. I like to wear a shirt and a trousers, you do get noticed. Plus you feel better. Keep up the good work pal.
Cheers mate much appreciated
Very Neutrally put. But, full of honest personal input from past experience. They are doing a job for themselves plus perhaps family back in the village town. You, are on holiday for change of scenery and away from daily life routines n rushing around.
Be Sensible/ Respectful/ Let your Hair Down /Laugh n Have Fun . For life’s short and certain joys never come back again easily.
Well said mate
I agree that all of that matters, but confidence (not cockiness) and a good attitude washes over a lot of first impressions. I'm a t-shirt/shorts/flops kind of person but I treat people well and I'm confident in myself, so it goes over well, when I'm in Thailand.
Nice one mate thank you
I've been holidaying in Pattaya since the mid 80s, lived in Thailand in the 70s for 2 years. Believe me Pattaya is all about BUSINESS, the Thai women are there to make money so they can support their families, only a Fool will look for and/or expect "love" from a working girl in Pattaya, Phuket or Bangkok.
absolutely
Another great video great info
Thanks mate
thank you very much for your truly insightful videos
My pleasure!
I absolutely agree when it comes to the point of speaking Thai hindering your chances of getting close to a Thai girl that you meet. I was surprised the first time when I spoke a few Thai words to a Thai masseuse and got the question back if I had a Thai girlfriend, but when I thought about it myself the assumption they make is understandable. So yes, If I would not have a Thai girlfriend and meet any new Thai girl for social purposes, I would certainly not show the best of my Thai language skills.
Cheers mate
As a Thai lady, I can tell that you know your staff completely agreed 😊
Thanks
😊
I found this video both interesting and a little focused in one direction as opposed to something that could be of wider use... I will explain... 1. I think you list is perfect for a guy going to a bar, I think this is EXACTLY what a "bar" girl looks at... 2. I think girls interesting in Foreigners, Bule, Farang etc. take on many looks aside from the bar girl, but the bar girl may be the 1st thing a older foreign man meets (definitely the easiest to find)... that being said, I thing all girls outside of bar girls have a different list than what you provide, and many have a VERY short list. 3. I have been to Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, etc. but most of my experience (ex wife etc.) is from the Philippines... and I think a guy watching this video might be interested in a younger asian woman, and might want some other perspectives (of which there are plenty of comparison videos). Filipina bar girls might size up a prospect the same as what you describe the Thai's, but you can find a girl outside of the bar easy as from one of the many dating sites etc.... (do not think this will keep you away from the scammers... it does not take a bar girl to scam you... a quiet one with 2 kids can do the same!) 4. I like your idea here, I think it is a good idea to help other foreigners prepare themselves for what they might encounter, I hope my comment might give you a point or 2 that leads you to another video (I know I am not taking the time to make one... but appreciate you putting your face out there!)
Thanks mate much appreciated
Great informative video. Thanks! Brit living in Switzerland. Never visited Thailand. But it's on the "to do" list!
Hope you get out here soon
Very thought provoking discussion. As someone who visits Pattaya once or twice a year for a couple weeks at a time, my views are perhaps a bit more jaded. As far as the dress code; I hang out in beer bars more than anything else. So, I dress accordingly; nice shorts tennis shoes and nice tee shirt, sometimes sleeveless shirt because of the heat. I do not speak any Thai and have no desire to, lol. I don’t shy away from a Thai girl who may not speak as much English, I use Google translate where I have to. I scale up the dress only as far as a nice button down print shirt on occasion. But that said, I never go out to a bar in flip-flops or a bathing suit; never go topless, ever! I get tanned because I stay at a hotel with a pool and come to Pattaya to relax. I’ve invited girls to my hotel pool and most generally like that offering, even if they can’t swim. I try not to get attached to any one girl; that limits vacation prospects. I have fun with the girls and will repeat with a girl I have fun with. That said, I would never consider bringing a Thai girl back to my home country. As they say, why “bitchinize” them at home! At my older age I do better with a 30 something bar girl than a 20 something go-go girl. If I were to consider living in Pattaya, I’m sure.my attitude and lifestyle would completely change. Just my two baht!
Cheers mate
I'm tanned and what I notice is that I don't get approached by ping pong show strikers or the ladies as I walk down walking street, like a lot of men do.
Haha ping pong, man they are annoying
Hey buzzers have a good day
You too mate
I first came to thailand in 2016 and visit every 12 weeks and stay 1 month . In my experience there is a class thing in thailand village girls tend to go for an older guy because they think and older guy will look after her financially, its better than the alternative of working in a factory or bar . But if you go the trendy areas of bangkok where the high class thai girls are most of them have trendy thai boyfriends who have good jobs . They tend not to go for older foreign men they are more like European girls .
Gotcha mate
Pretty down to earth vlog Trevor , a lot of common sense from your many years of experience . Well said .
Thanks mate much appreciated
Brilliant video mate thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks mate much appreciated
I just came back from Pattaya and what i really noticed during my 2 week stay is that the Thai woman arent nearly as we might call "desperate" as they use to be .
Oh no having a beer gut and not taking care of yourself not dressing nice smelling nice etc... isnt gonna land you a (normal) girl anymore .
Ofcourse you have the typical go go girls who dont care who they go home with but the vast majority of Thai girls the ones worth keeping in youre Line have high standards these days .
And thats good for them and also for us eventually because it helps us being a better person aswell and not having expectations that are just un realistic in long term i mean i care much more about a woman that loves me because of who i am what i like and dont like and have similair things in common than a woman that just cares for me because i'm a male with a heartbeat from the "rich" west and thinks she can milk me dry .
As you care about women who love you or want you, why do you go to Pattaya where you are meeting hookers. They're not just women who only want you for your money. They don't want you at all. Just your money.
100% mate
I’m 36 years old. I live in Bangkok for a year and my experience in the bar scene is this. It doesn’t matter how old you are, if you treat them good they will do the same to you, but most importantly, if you have money they will “love you”. The truth is Thai girls would prefer for you to be young but if you don’t have the money, they will definitely prefer an older man over you. If you want a girl to actually like you for who you are I suggest you don’t try to find her in a bar. Your best bet is for you to get away from Bangkok and Pattaya.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
Agreed mate, regardless of age pull out a few notes and there will soon be girls about, its not the fact they prefer older but as Trevor said in general older are more financially secure, if we're going solely on attraction 90% are goinna prefer a guy aroujd their own age . Wouldn't say stay away from Bangkok though mate there are over 10 million people that live there, just if you want a loyal girl stay away from the bar scene. My girl is from Bangkok, a few months older and works 6 days a week in an office. Has never asked me for money.
Hi. Been to Thailand many times and never had a bad experience with Bar Girls.
It'd down to being Street Wise..
Indeed
Great video, Buzz. I look forward to more content.
Thanks mate much appreciated
I enjoy watching your vídeos and the conversations you have.. I'm not sure when I'll hit Thailand but thanks to these videos I know when I go I'll be prepared. My most concerns are about the women. I am sure there are very sweet and comfortable to be around with but I don't know other then that! But one day I would visit hopefully stay long term and find a great partner to enjoy my life.
All good mate cheers
Brilliant video Trev. I can't believe how cynical people are in the comments and their views on the girls.Wherever you are in the world you will end up paying for females one way or another.I love coming to Thailand love everything about it ! Like you said these girls work hard always smiling and happy .You imagine being one of them and trying to be happy 24/7 towards customers and people .I always show the girls and everybody respect .We all know the score with life .
Exactly mate
I think it's all about being happy both ways, No matter what the girls intention or reasoning, if she will commit to you & you are happy, I really don't see a problem.
On my trips to Pattaya, I have made no secret of having a girl friend etc. But that doesn't mean you're now ignored, the girls are so friendly & have a laugh no matter what situation.
I agree the girls go to so much effort to look nice when they go out. In day time I'm not really bothered, but at night I dress reasonably. I won't go out at night with flip flips & shorts in Pattaya. Some do, but I don't. I don't wear suit, but shoes, chinoes or jeans, nice shirt etc.
Spot on mate
@@jefflinton I will dress to go out at night properly no matter where I am. As far as couldn't care less about you, may be you should instead ask if you care for & respect them.
I do so would not go out dressed like a tramp in some lame attemp at thinking I'm better.
They deserve respect just as anyone else does & let's remember, not all Pattaya is bar girls. I have not paid once ever. If I go a restaurant, you get dressed up. Many places, you don't even get the choice. Dress respectfully or don't come in.
Age is not just a number. If a 19 year old girl finds me attractive it is because she is hustling me. Most of these women have young boyfriends and are draining the older foreigners of their cash. These hustlers are never honest with the foreigner who is 30 years older. I have seen so many guys refuse to believe they were getting conned.
I get ya but in the end it really is just a number as long as you have your eyes wide open and expectations real
I enjoyed seeing you bumping into mr strachan the other day, on his channel,🤙
Yeah he's a great friend
Another great video. Thanks for all your efforts, I live in Torquay UK 😰, nice to see some sunshine and scenery ❤. I'll be back 😄.
Thanks mate
I think the reason they don't like you speaking Thai is that you understand what they are saying to each other. 😂
They'll just switch to Isaan.
True
Exactly . Learn Thai or isaan and sit in a bar, you will soon find out what they really think. Last thing they want is you to understand what is said around you when she whisks you off to the village to be the milking tirak for the family.
The girls like older men ? Like his money definitely. The girls in Pattaya think about one thing and it’s is how they can relive you of your money old or young and how they can mug you off for even more money .. Preventing that from happening while enjoying your holiday or your retirement is what you should be thinking about . Period
Cheers mate
I am 60 but don't go out at night usually. My daytime is in beer bars and the occasional gents club. I still am surprised by the often 30 year or more age gap between the girl and the man- this I think is more down to money than anything else. I have always preferred an older woman so I look at those that look and speak well between 40-50. There are plenty out there and it is a more natural fit.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts mate
Excellent! My first video of your I have watched. I have liked, commented and subscribed! Thanks for your input!
Thank you very much mate
I just got back home to Australia last Saturday morning from Thailand. Three weeks in Pattaya was very quiet an experience for me than in Bangkok for three weeks. Songkran day in Pattaya was the best. I get to celebrate with all the hotel staff , music every where at walking street. Everyone having fun. It was great experience ❤🎉. Hope to be there again someday.😅
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated and glad you had a great time
They don’t prefer older men. It’s the money 💰 it’s the older men that prefer younger girls
Lol okay
:) obviously you can speak for all the girls
@@goodo5691 of course not! It’s a generalization but not a reproach
When I first met my Thai woman I explained I'm not a rich man , just a average man, only scammers are interested in your money, don't judge all Thai girls.
I break up a couple of years ago with my thai girl after 14 years. She's 18 years younger than me and maybe she come into some 40 years crisis. Anyway, not so fun of course. And still I have responsibility for our son and he's 13 years old today. I also have grown up children but they are selfgoing today. He is very good at school and have a lot of friends, play golf, pingpong and skiing and everything is going very well but anyway I must have power to support him.
But as I say not so fun when your soon 60 being alone and I was think this is it, now I'm going to be alone. Yes I know I can meet a swedish woman in my own age but I don't want to have a cow way 30kg more than me. I probably can meet a younger beautiful girl in Thailand but then it's the whole process to bring here to Sweden and I did not have that power.
But around 18 months ago I was at gym as I use to go every day and there was a woman I never seen before. Very good looking and we start to talk to each other. From South america but she speak fantastic swedish. We did not talk so much and most about training. Then we say goodbye and I took bicycle and went home. Day after same woman was there again and we say hello. This time we talk more about ourself and she was in same situation as me and have been divorced a couple of years ago. Same as me her second marriage. She's not from Stockholm but live i a city around 50 km from here and was visiting a friend lived near by gym. Anyway, when I was on my way going home I say to myself 'what you have to loose, ask her out for lunch'. I know very well I was not the youngest or the fittest guy in the gym and this woman was much younger than me and I could see how other men looked at her but what I have to loose. And she say yes so we went out for lunch and then I asked her if she also want to have dinner with me and she say yes and after dinner I drive her to a beaty saloon cos she was fixing her nails (yes I like girls dress elegant and sexy with high heals and good looking makeup). I called her when she was at train going home and say I had a great day and ask if she want to see me again and we decide we would meet day 2 days later. Drive to her city, pick her upp and we get back to Stockholm for dinner and then went home to me and watch a movie. Day after we meet again and was out on town all day and when I follow her to train she ask 'are we a couple now?'.
And after that we together and everything is going well. She is fantastic with my son and as he start to learn spanish in school last summer now he have the best teacher at home so he speak english, thai, spanish and of course swedish today. I have good contact with my son's mother but when we speak is about the boy not so much more.
I pay for the trips when she go to Thailand with our son and I also buy a car for her cos I know this benefit my son.
I can't say I miss Thailand but I miss her family and the time we had together.
But anyway, South america has a lot of fantastic places and countiries and I like her family. They are very religious but nothing new to me cos my thaigirl belived in Buddha as most thai.
This summer we go to California and stay to school start after my son come home from Thailand so from no on it has been a lot of traveling for him but he like to see new places.
She have a son 18 years old and a very nice young boy and soon he start to study in US.
So after rain and darkness it's will always be sunshine even if you don't think so when your in deep shit.
Thank you very much for sharing your experience with us mate what a story, hope ya well mate
@@Buzzinpattaya But i still following your chanel🙂
I actually visited with one of the women there and asked her how it is that the oldest men get the youngest and hottest women as their girlfriend. She told me she has talked to quite a few of those girls and they said that their man can't get it up that often, so they don't have to put out that often. I will def. be taking viagra when I get older, because I hate drawing the short straw. Hope this helps answer your question.
Hahaha brilliant mate
Another fantastic video, thanks Trevor 😎
Thanks mate
Not a Thai veteran but think I’ve learned enough to comment. I do try to speak Thai when I can and TBH you have made me think about how that’s perceived. I always dress well, even when walking around LK Metro, but that is me all the time. I like to look good. I like to think that gets me noticed and not ignored. And as regards tan, I am abroad 6-months of the year (not always Thailand) so pretty much tanned all the time, just lesser and greater shades of tanned. Again, you’ve made me think.
Thanks mate
I am 77 and had a great time in pattaya, I don't pick the girls thay pick me. Except at the sopeys then I pick!
Nice one
Take the time to be well dressed, many of the thai in the bars and gogo will be impressed some will tell you and some won't but believe me you will be noticed and like very much. Thailand is a fashion hotspot,
watch how much conversation talk it add to your bar experience.
i dress very smart and every girl in bars make the thai saying loh maak = dress well or look handsome.
the security guards for the clubs also give a 👍 up.
Pattaya is for fun so dress up for fun.
Gotcha mate thank you
In regards to having a sun tan being a negative thing via Thai women, it’s not a good indicator at all. There are many warm weather states in the U.S., and lots of those are tan year round.
It's just how they see it
G’day Trev, another great video👍👍. Keep up the great work.
Thanks mate much appreciated
Hi Trev, interesting post today and I have to agree with most of your points. In regard to us that speak Thai though I haven't found this a problem in fact it can sometimes work in your favour. A lot of new girls in the entertainment scene cannot speak English and you can see their awkwardness when sitting with a farang, on top of that a lot of guys just find it too much hard work and move on. Sitting with a Thai-speaking farang builds confidence but mainly gives them more of a chance to be on a par with the other girls.
In my opinion, the lack of liking us Thai-speaking farangs is it limits their ability to speak freely among themselves. I love sitting at the bar listening to them and watching their expressions change the minute you start talking to them. Overall mate I have found whether you are married or not they don't care business is business!!
Thanks for sharing your experience with us mate much appreciated
Older guys equal less work for more money. 😂
Lol
Spot on 😅
Less boom boom old dudes 😂
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😂😂
My wife only dated older foreigners and no, though I don't judge, she didnt work in a bar. University educated with a career she just personally finds them more attractive provided they take care of themselves with working out etc. and older men tend to be in a better position to bring something to the table economically. And how is that different than what Western Women want. Someone who is able to take care of them. The difference is Western Women bring their liberal attitudes and place to high a value on their own situations. There's a reason so many men are moving to SEA Countries like Thailand to find a woman who still acts like a woman.
Spot on, dude. Agree 100%.
Cheers mate
They are NOT attracted to old guys, it defies human nature. Dress it up as you want, more stable etc. Yes, older men are a safer option but thats NOT attraction. End of chat.
Lol whatever
@onetwothree12374 LOL..defies human nature? so “they” appointed you their spokesperson? What qualifies you to speak for ALL of them? You seem to be talking out of the wrong hole.
@@JonH-tc9nrI dont need anyone to appoint me to voice the basics of human instinct! In layman's terms, no fit young attractive 21-30yr old wants to be kissing or shagging an old fat bald foreigner she has nothing in common with by choice. Does it happen, of course. Are they prepared to do it, of course. But let's not pretend its anything other than a mutually beneficial agreement rather than lusty romance and love!!! Come on brother, it's fine, im not knocking it but let's read the script!
Lived there for 10 years and your speaking thru your arse
Well done Trev. Totally agree. True from my experiences there.
cheers mate
Walking atm for everybody and a passport for a better life to her family too.
After this,it comes down to some others factors but nothing is escaping the premise.
Gotcha mate
I find with my thai language skills.....I use it when I'm out traveling ( buying fuel, booking rooms etc) , I never speak thai in the bars anywhere but listening to the girls talking thai to each other can be quiet interesting and sometimes quiet helpful
Nice one mate
These videos are fantastic..Its great to see how things are done out there and its fascinating 👍🏻
Thank you very much
Top 3 you tube info on Pattaya. Thank you sir!
Wow, thanks!
99% it’s a business and they’re in it for the money, it’s what Pattaya is about and has been about for a long time.
Indeed mate