How to Improve Hunchback Posture While You Sleep (2018): the Best Sleeping Position
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In this video, Matt talks about the best sleeping positions for hunchback posture. If you have hunchback posture, the last thing you want to do is make your posture worse while you sleep. The simple tricks Matt demonstrates in this video will show you how to adjust your sleeping positions so you can improve your hunchback while you sleep (or at least not make it worse)!
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God life is so freaking hard.
Humphrey death is more simple isnt it
Bert Sonder but we still avoid it
@@CONANCHICK cuz its boring
@@birdy4696 tryhard "this is deep"
Life is indeed hard...
I’m gonna sleep like an unhunched king tonight
😂😂😂
how did it go?
😂😂😂😂
Just for who’s curious, This has helped like 30-40%. With noticeable difference. Last week a cousin of mine actually commented on my posture which was natural after this dude’s tips. It helps for sure
@@prestigek1ngs wow someone who actually give update and success
So, I've been sleeping with my enemy this whole time.
Reminds me of those bad romances where the hero and villain love each other
that sounds... wrong
Anyone tried this? If yes then tell me does it really work
xD
Yes, like Julia Roberts.
About 2 months ago my hump was really bad due to 10 years of hunching at work (office), but when it got really bad was after my two pregnancies (last 4 years or so) carrying and lifting kids and also by breastfeeding (more hunching). I had enough and started working out at the gym 3-4 times a week (focusing on strengthening my back and burning back fat, and opening up the chest, foam rolling and 30 min cardio each time after weight lifting).. At home every morning I did 4 posture excersices I found on RUclips. I slept without a pillow and really got aware of my posture: stopped slouching in the sofa, sitting up straight at the table, started to lift the kids in the correct way, and tried to practice chin tucks often. I can say that after 2 months of doing this the hump is SO much better. I would say half the size. I'm gonna continue doing this and be patient, I feel so hopeful that I wont need to go my entire life with this bump.
Hi Linda, that's fantastic! Do you have a link to the posture exercise video you've been following? Ta 😊
Grace B @ me when she posts them
I just came from that posture exercise! I'm trying to improve from having a long time chronic illness, and it has kept me laying down for so long that I've developed an ugly neck hump. Idk if I'll ever fully recover, but I'd still like to improve this hump!
If u read all that I need your brain n patience
@@chris9jjt186 we’re slowly losing basic abilities and basic motivation to do little things. and i’m not trying to insult you bc i fall into this same thing sometimes but we really need to acknowledge work past these things. it’s not completely our fault bc we live in a time where this is normal and it’s getting more normal for us to get lazier and lazier! but i will pray for you bc ik how hard it is to struggle with this on a higher level which would be laziness. God bless you!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️💙💕✝️
Who else watching while hunching?
Thankyou guys today marks me getting 69 comments
Yup
I need a headmount for my phone
i dead ass am rite now
Yeah well if you have kyphosis you can’t help it.
So funny lol
Everyone’s talking ab pillows but he don’t even got a bed 😭
Nikki Nicole hahahahahaaa! I love these comments 😂😂😂😂
doesn't
LMFAOOOOO
That’s like a bed table specialized for good posture and massages
Me too 😿😿
Everything is so difficult.
Even sleeping 😭😭
Fr
Life.. WTF
Right like damn 🙄
has this caused breathing problems?
Not that difficult :)
Remember your grandparents telling you to sit straight? I will be that kind of Grandpa 👴
Everyone kept telling me when I was younger, but no one taught me to strengthen my back, like my back was too weak to not hunch, and ir wasn’t comfortable at all sitting straight
I feel so betrayed by my pillow
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😇
My pillow would never do that
@james calderon dont mind if I do
@@arnoldgrunwald3989 PlsS😂
I'm suing my pillow for malicious intent.
😂😂
Ahahhahaha omg
ba hahahahhahahaha, >>> lets make it a class-action lawsuit !!!
#metoo
Did you win the lawsuit ?
The best thing I ever did for my posture was force myself not to look at the floor as I’m walking, I deliberately try to look upwards now, and just the act of tilting your head back lets your whole spine follow, it’s difficult because I have anxiety and stuff and hate speaking to people and want to hide and look at the ground but the more you force yourself to do it the more natural it starts to feel,
Your explaing is very clear, thanks! I'll try tonight!
I fixed my rounded back by sleeping on my back with a flattish pillow. After about 15 years of doing so and at the age of 81, I have straightened out.
Did it help with pain problems too?
It took 15 years!!!??? I'm really demotivated now
Ow hell naw
@@HarshPatel-tb4uf he’s 81 he probably developed that for his entire life
@@HarshPatel-tb4uf I agree with the comment above - you should consider the age and the progression of the hump. The younger you are and the 'fresher' your hunchback is, the more chances you have to correct your posture quickly.
what i've learned from this video:
*_P I L L O W E V I L_*
rielitty Y E S
*Pillow talk 🤣🤣🤣🤣*
I just realized that word "evil" backwards is "LIVE"! very philosophical...
@i hate my life sorry You feel such way BUT once I felt same and now when I am on the other side off that age I can asure You - You will feel great one day and will be happy. Life is complicated action game. And one important thing to remember always is "today will sound tomorrow". So make correct steps and thoughts today so tomorrow You get fruits off Your choices. Good luck budy:-)!
NUUUUU PILLOW EVIL
Can't believe there will be a time i need someone to teach me how to sleep.
Lol same here i sleep like a shrimp been the cause of my rounded shoulder uggh idk how to fix this now
Me toi...
Same here 😂 it’s not what I used to use RUclips for ha ha! Get to a certain age and suddenly need to help for everything
@@78KellyS78 modernn society is to blame :)
Same here 🙋🏾♂️😂
I got hunchback because of anxiety and lack of confidence. I just wanna stand normally with chin up but i couldn't :v
edit: its better now just be consistent (:
Try nofap for 90 days and see your confidence
What did u do to have better posture?
tips pls :”)
I got my hunchback from a 2yr depression session and now I'm trying to fix it
Same Wendy from gravity falls, same 😔
same
Same,
His advice was so good that I ended up getting kicked out of Notre Dame
BlankSpace Stop!😂
@Aran Rasekhi .. Hunchback of Notre Dame...
@Aran Rasekhi ouff, if you still don't get, it's because it's not your kind of humor 😂
Aran Rasekhi yeah mate you’re just fucking stupid
Aran Rasekhi that’s why you don’t get it
i hope ad revenue is enough for this guy to go get a real pillow
Laborn he doesn't use pillows
nice bed too
He is young and nothing hurts! I'm in pain all over
Believe it or not pillows r bad for our back
@@HumanOneGoodGirl Young people sometimes have it worse . If you spend 90% of your life either sitting or working .If you are young but don't stretch and what not then it becomes mental and psychical pain .
"There's been someone in your bed this whole time who's been giving you a hunch back posture."
Me: "Is he cute though?"
My pillow: 👁️👄👁️✨
Not my pillow!!!
Me: watches a vid on how to fix a hunchback posture
Also me: watches this while being hunched asf
Lol
He says he has a pillow but i dont belive him
This made me literally laugh out loud
@@heathergranger2020 yesss same hahaha
Real laughs too thank you 🥳
white doll I don’t believe him either hahahahaha
😂😂😂
I love how he keeps on referencing to it as "your hunchback" I just keep picturing my hunchback as my little pet dragon or something lol
Jarrett Thomas this comment is underrated
Hehe, wholesome
Jarrett Thomas LOL
Lmfao
Yeah my little pet hunchback is in Notre Dame
Sleeping with a super thin pillow completely straightened out my hunchback within a couple weeks to months-ish. I had tried some of this channel's other exercise videos but was inconsistent with them because they were too hard and I am lazy. This proved to be the video to follow that worked. Now my posture is much better and my traps aren't always tight and aching. Who knew passive stretching could help that much?
Honestly I personally don't think exercise is super necessary it's habits of course exercise definitely helps and might speed up the process a little bit but if u just make good habits then it will fix on its own over time and you will have a good habit and won't have to worry about it again I'm also super lazy so I try to find the easiest and most effective way to do things lol
What about sleeping without one? Do you sleep on your back?
@@tia7765 it’s probably just to support ur neck but idk it probably would work without one
can you share link of pillow
i’ve had scoliosis since the age of 7 and was recently diagnosed with hyper kyphosis. This lockdown has really affected me and i’m in pain every waking hour so thank you for this!
I hope you're feeling better now!! 🥺🥺
So refreshing to watch a physical therapy video where the therapist has a sense of humour! 🙌
You should check out Bob and Brad "the two most famous physical therapists on the internet 🎶"
And Doctor Jo! She's super thorough but with a lovely sense of humour!
Results are important than a laugh fest .
CAUSE… He’s not a PT
@@toomuchiridium
Disclaimer alert! Disclaimer alert!!
“Pillow like objects”
*holds brick into camera*
😂
Soft brick..
J Ow n Trey ukuuykuggh
Pilloid objects.
Not sure what that monstrosity was really😂
I learned this trick with the pillow many years ago. I used to have really bad postural kyphosis, and I've been cracking my back for almost 20 years to fix it (with a little help from others cracking it over the years). Keeping the pillow flatter has helped a lot. Also, developing the spinalis muscles in the middle of the back and doing neck retractions has recently made a major difference!
Thank you for this! I was researching about postures and how we can correct them and found this. You're funny & very good at explaining stuff! ✌
Plot twist: he doesn't actually have a real pillow.
WWWAAAAAAAAAAATTTT 😮😱😮😬😬😱😱😕😕😮😮😮😱😱😱😱🐶
How to change the height of a pillow btw.. of course he uses a blanket if he doesn't want to use many different pillows
Nor blanket
Emilia dayyum girl how old is u
That's because he's showing us what happens when we use pillows of varying height (thickness). He wouldn't be able to accomplish this if he was using a real pillow. :)
Get this man a pillow
For realz.
haaaa thinking the exact same
Hey guys 990p9p
But I think he using this for show different form of high and position without have a lot pillow there
Wakanda forever
These vid3os are the best thing on youtube ! I have a slight but constant hunch and i have been doing Hsu's corrections and feel some improvements after only a couple weeks . Am verry appreciative.
LOL I never understood why I couldn’t lay down flat. I thought that I had taken my clumsiness and general awkwardness to another level where I didn’t know how to gravity anymore. To see someone emulate how my body is holding itself explained so much, especially why I wake up feeling like my neck has concertinad itself. You’re also hilarious, thank you.
Life sucks when you have scoliosis, kyphosis, sleep apnea & insomnia, and can’t sleep comfortably 😣
Hello!!
Hope you are doing well. Please tell me has anything helped you?
My insomnia, Bimaxillary Protrusion and Prognathism, Neck Hunch and Skull problems have worsened alot. Can't sleep properly for years.
So sad...just horrible when you cannot sleep!
if you have insomnia 40 mins of casual walkin in the room listening to RUclips or whatever helps a lot.
Try sound therapy along with yoga exercises/stretches and deep breaths. There are plenty of free clips on youtube. My favorite and current one I'm using is Sapien Medicine Scoliosis. The effects have been amazing so far
Well then its probably the time to quit drugs.
He pacc, he attacc, but most importantly , he hunchbacc
Funny
💀💀💀💀💀😂
Respec
This is dumb as fucc
@@mattbortz10, you do the have to share your opinion, if you don’t like the joke or don’t understand keep scrolling, no need to get toxic
I tried it and so far its making me 20% less hunchback after 1 week. I would like to say a big thank you to Dr Matt. For those who have bad hunchback like me and trying this for the 1st time. This is how I felt on the 1st night till the 7th night:
1st Night: My neck and back muscle were so tense in this sleeping position. My hunchback was quite bad, I had problems breathing normally and could only take small breaths when my chin were tucked as per video. I could not sleep well the whole night. I woke up with aching neck and shoulder. I feel my neck bone and spine was aching as well. No difference in my hunchback.
2nd Night: First 3-4 hours, my neck and back muscle were as tense as 1st night. But I could breath 30% slightly better already. After 4 hours of being uncomfortable and unable to fall asleep, the 5th hour, i felt something different. My neck and back muscle were only 50% tense, the other 50% feeling was like the muscles are stretching instead. It felt kind of good as it was streching like a yoga feeling. I manage to fall asleep. I wake up with my neck bone and spine still sore like 1st night, but neck muscle and back muscle were no longer sore. No difference in my hunchback.
3rd Night: I finally able to breath normally. I no longer felt any tense or streching of my neck and back muscles. I only feel a slight pull on my spine and neck bone (Chin still tuck in as per video). I fell asleep in less than an hour. I woke up and look at the mirror and saw my hunchback got 10% better. I also shocked that I am now automatically sit up straight when I am using my computer rather than hunchback.
4th Night: Felt like normal sleep. Wake up and look at mirror, i see a bigger difference in my posture now. My hunchback is offcially reduced by 15%.
7th Night: By the 7th night of sleeping as per video, I wake up and see my hunchback got reduced by 20%. It also make me sit up straight naturally when im using computer and I no longer felt awkward when I had to sit up straight.
Wow that’s amazing, I am going to try this. I have really really bad hunchback and rounded shoulders, I was thinking if it’s even worth it to try but reading your results gave me hope, thank you! By the way have you kept up with sleeping like this, how are your results one year later?
@@onewayticket2148 hi, my hunch back is now reduced by 30-40%. My family notice it without me telling them. For me now, weekdays I slept with pillow, weekends without pillow. I am unable to reduce my hunchback totally. But it is visible enough for my friends to notice that it was reduced
@@DailyGPT365 update
@@DailyGPT365how's it going now?
This guy's sense of humor and the comments are giving me a much needed laugh. Thanks.
I've had a hunchback since I was little as I've suffered with lack of confidence. I'm pretty sure if I don't fix this I'll probably end up like those elderly people with extreme hunchback. This is a long term fear of mine 😅😅
How did u fix it?
@@lenxus6879 still working on it 😅
@@TimTam3 how?
Me too, I'm 29 but I also think I have to fix my back now so I won't get like some elderly people I've seen.
I can completely relate to this. I was bullied and to protect” myself I hunched over and folded my arms all the time in school. I fear that I may go paralyzed from severe damage, but that’s probably extreme. We got this, I think. We can fix out posture.
"Dont feel bad about it" honestly it seems most people making videos like this are doing it because they believe people who dont have perfect posture are ugly less fortunate ones and they want to sell a lifestyle of perfection. So glad you're humble and kind about it.
for sure. no one should feel bad about their cervical kyphosis (hunchback), because it’s just a fault in our society and what’s being sold. i agree that he really makes it down to earth and compassionate rather than cosmetic and superficial
“That someone is your pillow!”
Me being in bed laying on my pillow: You’re fired! *throws pillow across the room*
Pain sucks, life shouldn't.
The best reminder I have heard today.Thank you very much ❤⚘
*When he said "I dont know what people do these days." ... damn I felt that*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😷
yeah, and this was 2017...just you wait....
I Love that he mentioned that books can also destroy posture and not only phones bc i got my posture mainly from Reading books
Yeah it seems like all of my posture problems are blamed on my phone, but for the majority of my life I didn't have one. I just spent hours of my day reading at school and home when I was younger
@@Em-._.- one one will blame schools even if it is true
Same. My posture sucks due to studying too much.
Even other hobbies. I tried to pick up cross-stitching. Had to stop from the neck pain.
I have spent my entire life on books and now a tablet....professor no wonder I have a hunched back
Watched this a year ago and wasn’t ready..now I’m in yoga teacher training and my shoulders are killing, I’m finally addressing my forward head and hyper kyphosis! This was sooo helpful thank you!!
You're welcome. 🤙
how about now
Super helpful. I have a lot of issues with posture while sleeping and this video really helped clarify a lot of mu questions. Thank you!
I will reverse-engineer the tips in this video to become THE ULTIMATE HUNCHBACK.
use a ladder as your pillow
I use like 4 pillows already but that’s for my acid reflux :(
@@alienlizardqueen8748 reverse engineering - the reproduction of another manufacturer's product following detailed examination of its construction or composition.
Shiinon Dogewalker I think you’ve got the manufacturing definition there. In software engineering, it can be useful to reverse a few functions and “crack” the paradigm, as it were. Also called “back engineering.”
@@alienlizardqueen8748 I first encountered the term in software engineering. I'm studying last year of computer science. Don't you think the same definition fits for software though? Just replace words like product for program. I thought you didn't know about it because of how you used it but I guess I was wrong about that.
LOL am I the only one who finds him low-key hilarious? Thank you for this video sir!
This is the most wholesome healthcare channel ever I'm subbing!
Thanks so much. I've been trying not to sleep on my tummy as I thought it was making things worse. This is helpful and reassuring
I subscribed to be notified of the sequel where you prove you own a pillow.
I had to stop using pillows a while back due to really bad back pain from poor posture. Using pillows always gave me headaches and bad neck pain the next morning. Also, I’ve been sleeping on the floor due to upper and lower back problems with only blankets under me and a small one under my neck and I’m finally straightening out with my hunchback and lumbar curve. As well as working out my core. I recommend this to anyone with chronic back pain. I had pain that wouldn’t go over for years and I’m finally becoming pain free
Not using a small booster pillow for my neck gives me a headache. Yes my pillow is very specific, lol.
I've found a firmer mattress is much better for me than a softer one.
How long it take to straighten everything out??
Feast2Famine Beast .
its taking me a while to get rid of my back strain, thanks for the advice!
I love you humor while explaining! Really enjoyed this video in 2021!
There's a scene from Coming to America that talks about how beds and pillows are actually detrimental for us. That's why Eddie Murphy's character sleeps on the floor with no pillow.
True. We should all take medical advice from Eddie Murphy comedies.
@@ushoys that’s a bad idea, I used to be a billionaire investor but now I’m a tramp, and it’s all from copying trading places
i don’t believe this man has a pillow
owwww my hips!!!! I NEED A PILLOW FOR MY HIPS!!!
Seriously
Why were big pillows invented, they make everything worse
Completely agree
Because their really fluffy and comfy ... on younger bodies that can still tolerate extreme body contortions for long amounts of time.
This is definitely one of those wish-I-listened-to-my-mom-when-I-was-younger lessons about posture. I’m paying for it now.
aly.cat.rawr Side sleepers need pillows w/ more loft
Exactly
Oooo
Thanks for all of your Helpful Videos!!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
So glad I found your channel! I desperately need your help and subscribed right away. Look forward to learning and getting better,. Thanks!
Ok but he is really really adorable
@Macca lmaooo! 😂😂
@Macca *hasn't 😬😬
@Macca * :D
He can be my pillow
@@nikki10114 sus
2019: Sleeping wrong
2020: Lets go bois
Yessir
Everytime I can't breathe well I worry I'm dying lol Even when it's probably just allergies like the other thousands of times...
Happy new year! Hope you are sleeping the right way now haha :')
2021: tf is happening
I needed this, scoliosis, hypnosis, forward head, feel awful about my posture. Thank God I found your videos
I want to give you a big thumbs up and thank you so much! I saw a difference in days!! I need to check out your other videos!!
2:57 "I swear I have a real pillow" good to know lol
He swears he’s not weird
These suggestions are perfect. I have been doing this for about eight years with a semi-hard mattress and a simple down pillow. I sleep on my back for about three hours without the pillow then stir and grab my pillow to sleep on my side. Let gravity and time do the work for you. Also at the end of a long day you can just lie down on the floor with no pillow and put your feet up on a chair in the astronaut position. You will get a very quick realignment of your back and neck after about ten minutes.
What is astronaut position
Thanks,cheers.
Thank you and Happy 2021!
Let’s be honest nobody searched for this lol but it’s valuable information 👌. The algorithm never miss
4 months of floor sleeping and a thin pillow and my hunch is gone after 40 years
Really wow
For real?
Damn thats too long 40years? I might not be alive for that long
@@bertsonder no he means he did that for 4 months but he had the hunchback thing for 40 years
@@bertsonder basically he fixed his back in 4 months, not 40 years
I almost see contempt in his face when he first takes the pillow away and says "my spine, neck, are still all maintaining that hunchback posture" lolol he genuinely is angry at the pillow
😅
Very informative and helpful. Thank you.
Really liked the video - the humour and Shakespeare really matter my day!
Who needs a pillow when you have such an awesome blanket! 🐶🐶🐶😍
I saw that too. "Borrowed" it from his kid.
Am i the only one that CANT sleep on their back
i dont really enjoy sleeping on my back but i do sometimes, i always sleep on sides
I end up switching from side to side all night long. My girlfriend is always on her back.
I have sleep paralysis so can’t sleep on my back ☹️
My breast be everywhere😤
I hate it. I do it when propped up because of major arthritis pain and it helps with that but takes forever to get comfortable. My dad sleeps on the floor frequently (by choice) and he's pretty healthy. lol
Very useful information and very well explained
I’m an artist so I’m basically just crunched in a ball at all times over my art :,)
Anybody else thought they had a terrible hunchback but when you tried laying down with no pillow it was all right? 👀
When I lay back without a pillow I feel like I can’t breathe...
I dont think that's a good thing...
u need to do tongue posture.
look it up.
groundbreaking
Lol girl I feel you. I some how jolt myself out of sleep when I sleep on my back. I hate it...
Fyi, sleep apnea is not a fun thing.
You might need a mouth guard. Look into it.
You’re so creative and easy to follow. Love this video.
Makes sense. Very well explained video. Liked!
Watching this video changed my life. Sleeping without a pillow makes me sleep better and feel better in the morning.
Hi, do you still like sleeping without a pillow? And do you also sleep on your side without a pillow?
Hope to hear!
This makes sense, my back was killing me after sleeping on my soft bed and soft pillows. Sleeping in the floor felt so much better. I always liked a really flat pillow too. Thanks for this informative video!
Sleeping on the floor kills my hips
For years I slept on the floor as a young adult.
Girls would roll their head over the side of the bed, and staring down at me with this puzzled look???
After a hard day I found it how amazingly soft the floor felt.
PS: I was back in the bed in a flash in the AM.
Nobody ever complained!
Great trips! Your sense of humor cracks me up. 😂
Thanks -- I You have pointed out some really good stuff. And I love your humor !
Me: Mom I want a pillow.
Mom: No we have pillow at home.
The pillow at home:
Youre super genuine and I love that you don’t try to force YOUR one way onto people, helped a lot thanks. Short simple and entertaining.
SO GLAD I FOUND YOIR CHANNEL!
I’m finding your sessions to be very helpful
You’re funny, which makes a dry (but important) subject more entertaining. Thank you for the video.
I appreciate this video for its valuable info and humor xD
Excellent suggestions that offer both an understanding of the goal and allowing someone to try different positions until you achieve the result. Thank you
I love your blanket :D Love your channel that I have found yesterday.
So glad I came across you, your humour makes watching informational videos bearable.
Thank you so much! This was the most realistic, helpful and relatable video I have watched on hunchbacks. I really appreciate it.
When I randomly clicked this video I was not expecting to be so thoroughly entertained, this dude is hilarious while being informative haha
The only thing in my bed I can trust now is my blanket :(
For now... until another video comes out about how it’s evil too
@@Chiquitina please noooo
Me with 4 pillows an actual bed and with my hunchback watching this: 👁👄👁
*sleep paralysis has entered the chat*
Sleep paralysis is temporary tho, it literally only lasts a few minutes
Ninjatrosity TV not literally fam 🙄
@@JordaxNx not if you have bad spirits near you, I used to see spirits sucking my energy out, hearing voices and seeing them as foggy humans they would literally rape me, and all that when I had a major depression episode, now I'm recovered and they went away, I truly believe I'm a sensitive and bad thoughts about me and life attracted them, be careful.
@pasimikaelm yes, im totally fine, I'm just saying what depression and bad thoughts can do to a highly sensitive person, thanks for caring ❤
999999 you probably have schizophrenia. Go see a doctor.
Wow. You did a great job delivering that line at the end
You have a very nice personality for teaching. Thank you for your tutorial.
your delivery of these lessons is so entertaining, it's like i get to have a good time while also working on my health :D
Love the humor... awesome!
Thank you for your video, my regards and respect to you from Australia.
Wow I came across your video and learned allot in just a few minutes. Its one thing to have a solution to the problem but it's even better when its explained why you have the problem...thanks